I swear by my little MS 192T. Great for dealing with limbs and small trees. Used it today to take down a limb which had smashed two smaller trees. Took down the two smaller trees and the limb predominantly with the MS 192T, although it did get pinched and my Husqvarna 455 Rancher had to help it out a bit. Between these two saws I feel pretty confident I can handle virtually all of our trees on our 100 acre farm. Love this channel, keep up the great work.
Wish I had known you were looking for a 192T. I rebuilt one right around April. I got it from a pawn shop for $50. Ran erratic. Did a leakdown test and found a leak around the pan gasket. I put in new crank seals, sealed up the pan with Yamabond, rebuilt the carb, put in a new air filter, new throttle cable, a new chain, and new Caber piston rings. The crank bearings were good so I left them alone. When I was done the saw had 165 lbs of compression. Had I known you wanted one I would have sold it to you cheap. I kind of owe you for the knowledge and expertise you have passed along in small engine repair. At any rate, as a small engine mechanic myself, you have my gratitude for all of your videos. It's always nice learning new things from people like you that, no doubt have forgotten more about small engine repair than I will ever learn myself.
I bought the 193 T December of 2020, have gone thru 5 tanks of fuel so far & am very happy with it. It has been up in trees trimming using 13 of the 14 in bar. Will do the job.
I'm just starting my company. I bought this saw for in tree use only. first time owning a stihl and man am I so dang Happy I did. it's a stihl u can't go wrong if the pro chainsaw competitors use it for ever competition. Love this saw.
Hi Don: Own a ms192t, 12 yrs original bar, use for trail patrol in WI. It gets used near a dozen times a year for clearing falls on trail, totally trouble free. Great performance.
Thanks for the look at the saw. Looks like an interesting design. I have been very happy with the ms 180c you suggested to me on Facebook. I look forward to up grading the bar and chain to the .50 size. Hope to see more videos of your 193t to see how its holding up.
Helpful video! Thanks! I use an ms193t for in-tree work. It's well-suited for that work and essentially trouble free. I like your idea of using a .050 chain and bar. I'll swap in the .050 gear this week.
Thank you DonnyBoy73 for making this video. I purchased one after watching it around the end of February. I have this old Pecan tree that was in desperate need of pruning. Thankfully, because of its light weight, it made it easy to carry up the tree using the loop, and was very manageable with one hand operations( I know two hands). When I purchased it, the rep. at ACE told me that if I bought the oil/fuel mix (large can) it would extend the warranty one more year, so now I have plenty of fuel and an added year of warranty. I think I will buy the 200 model as I want to mill some large oak trees that were felled by some pros. a couple of years ago. Thanks again.
This one has a fundemental update over the 192T. The 193T is a Stratified engine now, or so as STIHL call it "2-Mix" technology where the engine from the intake through it's cylinder&piston's transfer ports are different, more complex and designed to have an extra air flow in a unique pattern & timing to add power while reduce emissions.
I just purchased the new MS 170, and I have not even started it yet. Bought it for it's lightweight use for mainly limb cutting..Can't wait to give her a go....I also have the "Farm Boss" MS290 with a 20" bar, and it came with a 16" bar, but I find it cuts better with the 20"... Can't beat a stihl....
Any chainsaw is going to have something that could be better or improved. As far as I'm concerned. Stihl chainsaws are the best. I've been climbing for 15 years. My more expensive Stihl chainsaw was stolen from me and I needed a chainsaw quick to do a very nice paying job. If you really actually know what you're doing up in a tree . Then,..for the money. You cannot beat this chainsaw.
You probably dont care but if you guys are bored like me atm you can stream all the new movies on instaflixxer. Have been streaming with my girlfriend for the last few days :)
Tip : No need to Prime just full choke. Turn choke off when it sputters usually the 2nd pull and starts on the 3rd pull. The dealer told me no need to prime when purchased and I never have! Great saw! I like the larger chain as well.
This saw is also a professional grade saw along with the 201t. The 201 is just the upper end model. I think they are both great saws. One advantage to this over the 201t-cm is you can adjust the carb.
You mentioned in the beginning of the video that you wanted to make the chain last longer. I totally agree. The amount of time it takes to maintain a chain is the biggest problem with owning and using a chainsaw. That's why I mostly use carbide chains, especially on the bars I use most often. Carbide chains last more than ten times as long between sharpening for me. The time I waste touching up the chains was costing way too much compared to the cost of the chain.
I am now really glad that I bought the Husqvarna 435t Instead of the ms193t Starts first pull even after months of not running, and has a much more sporty sound 35cc, thanks for clearing any doubts I had
I don't like 435t even with muffler mod .Had an Echo 355t w muffler mod ,that was a get it saw. It had a run in w some log. It lost..RIP I use the saws daily .echo is the way to go.
I just went out and bought one. Haven't got a chance to use it yet though. This will actually be the first time I've ever used one. I bought it to clean my property up.
Could you explain why you prefer not to have the easy start? Is it troublesome? I have a 180ce. I like it and have not had any trouble, but I don't give it heavy use.
I bought mine in 2017 and don't know if they had the warranty extension then or not; at least they said nothing about it. I kept the saw stock .043 and 14". I really like it a lot here on the farm when trimming trees and such. Rented a man lift this summer for two big trees to clear leaners away from buildings and did use the snap to secure saw to man lift, just in case oops.
This chainsaw is the best of Stihl. Lightweight, powerful for one-handed use, with easy-start reliability. The added weight of the 201 isn't worth the trade up for its extra 7cc's of power. Unless you need the 201 in-tree, this is the small saw to have IMO.
Era 404 when you're a professional arborist like myself, one handed use is a way of life. It has to be done sometimes and is safe as long as you know what you're doing
I have the MS 192 TC and It's a decent saw when trimming while aloft. Doesn't weigh me down and being a big guy the last thing that I need while climbing trees is more weight.
I finally came across a good deal on a MS200T which was on my wish list for a few years. I was fortunate in that it was owned by a casual home owner who took exceptional care if it. Enjoy your new saw in good health Don! Cheers! Zip~
I wore out the predecessor to this saw (020 top handle). The 020 had significantly more power but twice the weight. I will take the newer lighter weight saw over the old one. I use the saw for light pruning of trees and shrubs 8" and smaller limbs. GREAT SAW
Got my Saw last week I had Dealer change Bar and chain they put on pointer bar on easier to trim pygmy date palms here in Florida Got mine at BROKEN BLADE here in Port Charlotte Florida
Whr did u come up with the oil mixing .The oil u want to run is synthetic .my 044 this has the same plug from 1998. I have never did a cycle for any saw
nice don. If you ever want to buy a saw in the 50cc size range i would reccomened looking at the husqvarna 550xp, they are very fast, powerful and reliable saws. the autotune is nice but i wouldnt know how to fix it.
hi dony, I have a 2012 Troy built tb230 with a 6.75hp engine. for a year it's been making a noise like a rattle or something when it hits a good rpm. I was told it's the rod but I know what a rod knock sounds like and it's not even near it. when I go over tall grass it stops the noise and comes back. it's not the blade I know that but I don't know what the nose is. I can put a video Up on my channel if you need to listen to it. what do you think it is and what can I do.
Okay I have 4 ms170's with 16" bars that I run 8 hours a day 7 days a week Logging, land-clearing, thinning and I admit that I can get them a little hot now & then and also I have to tinker with them often including disassembling, repairing, replacing, ect. and I do take very good care of them. These home owner saws are tough and get beat every day. I use only stihl premium mix , good gas & quality parts when needed. I'm gettin a little tired of tare downs & my newest 170 is giving me more problems than the others, most likely due to working it to hard. Dony what Stihl saw with 16" bar would you recommend for me to buy. Forums & reviews are rattling my brain for the past few years and I would like to move on to a stihl saw that would hold up to my needs & also be cost effective. Sure would like to get your opinion for my options.
Hello Dony Having watched your review a few times, I bought myself an ms193t this week. I was undecided at first, I'd heard that they didn?t perform as well as the 192t which is still available here in Spain where I live. I looked around for some more information and spoke to a guy on an arborist site forum who'd worked on and with both saws and he reckoned that they were both very good , he'd found the 193 to be both very tough and powerful for it's size. He also mentioned that it`s posible to make a simple muffler mod which improves overall performance without damaging the saw, I'll add a link below just in case you'd like to check it out. I used mine today for the first time and was very impressed with how well it cut, I got it mainly to do light work, pruning, clearing and working from a ladder, it handled everything with ease sailing through thicker branches too 8-10 inches. I was working on and off for about 4 hours in all and didn't feel tired, this saw's so light. I noticed the throttle response is a little slower than on my other Stihl saws, especially when started from cold, but once the revs are up, it cuts really well. I'm very pleased with it overall. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your channel, it's excellent, you're a gifted teacher and your videos are so well made, they have been a huge help to me on many occasions when I've had mechanical problems and had almost given up. Thank you and please keep up the good work, Matthewlink: Introducing ths Stihl MS193T/Aboristsite.com
do have thesame saw, sadly, i've fucked up about while cutting firewood, the chain fucked up and broke off the extend thing for loose or to tighten it, so every 15min i've need to move reposition the saw blade ;c but still is useable,
That’s why I bought a G2500. I do not use a top handle saw very much. I think I stuck the G2500 under my table saw in the shop. I will find it if I need it. My G2500 starts a lot easier than your 193T. I put an Oregon 12 Prolite bar and Oregon 91 series chain on it. I saw your saw on sale at my local Stihl dealer for $369 a few weeks ago. If I want another top handle saw I will build the 200T from Huztl.
Have you done a tuneup on your chainsaw? Have you worked or do you have any other updates on this chainsaw? I just bought a used one exactly like yours. Mine looks a lil rough . Just want to work on it on my vacation week . Great videos by the way. Keep up the good work.
I have this exact same saw. I have been an arborist since the 1980s. Rather than coach you on a few deficiencies, I just recommend keeping the manual!! Do as it says. Very little outside of that is good, unless you have massive professional experience. Watch out, too, for going outside of the instructions. You can very easily void your warranty!! I will say though, this top handle isn't just good for cutting branches, it is FOR pruning trees! That's why it is so compact. Please, use your ear plugs or muffs!
Looks like a really good saw, especially for occasional use. Nice to have the break-in and oil tips. Also - would a Honda GX120 that is overspeeding/not governing cause carburetor flooding. I know that is not related to this video, but I need some advice. Thanks!!
+donyboy73 Thanks very much - this one has me puzzled. Will suggest a new carburetor, along with disassembling the engine to find the governor problem.
Dear Sir: I have owned a stihl ms192t for about 2 1/2 years. I really enjoy this saw. Just great for pruning orchards. The 192t has carb adjusting screws. I understand that the 193t has an intele-carb carb installed. Does this saw have any carb adjust ? Do you know of any way of adjusting the carb without a computer tie in to the carb. Is there any port on the carb that will allow you to program the carb? Thanks
+jim wright Hello Jim, I'm going to buy a top handle saw myself and as I couldn`t decide between the 192t or 193t (both are available here in spain where I live) I went to speak to my local stihl dealer's mechanic to get his opinión. He's worked on both saws and reckoned that the 193 was better made, he said that there were various small changes made to improve the saw in general, stronger crank-case, clutch cover nut you cant lose, apart from the intellicarb, which has plastic limiters installed to prevent tuning, the carb is pre-set to ensure smooth operation in conjunction with the new muffler , both designed to reduce emmisions and protect the environment. He has clients that use both saws professionally and although wary at first, said they're very happy with the 193, finding it equally as reliable and more 'torquey' than the 192, which is a proven machine. He also said that it wouldn't be too difficult to remove the limiting plugs ,re-tune the carb and modify the muffler to gain some more power if you feel that way inclined, although as far as he knew none of his clients had seen any need to do so. I`m going to pick mine up this week. I trust this guy's opinión, he could have sold me either saw and had no reason to steer me toward one in particular. hope this is helpful. Matthew Somers
You mentioned in the video that you like how you can hook the saw to a belt. Are talking about an arborist saddle/harness or the belt loop on your pants?
+ian “treejunkie101” martin On an arborist saddle Martin. The saw could very well be heavy enough to rip your belt loop, and fall to the ground below. Cheers! Zip~
ZippoVarga A belt loop can take around 80 pounds of force before it rips, unless the stitching is bad. I've never heard him say he has a saddle, and I'm wondering if hes even used it in a tree
Hang a drill in one pant loop and a chainsaw on another. Everyone does that, right next to the mag light... Now you are ready for anything. Saddles are for horses.
I only hang a saw from my harness. That's a lot safer and easier to use. I use a shock absorbing, breakaway saw lanyard to keep from being dragged out of a tree if the saw gets hung on a falling branch
Hi. I have the same saw for 3 or 4 years now. Did you just put another bar and chain on it or are these options ? Like you say the original chain is much smaller and will wear faster
What do you recommend ? use the original till it's warn or directly go for the .050 gauge bar and chain ? Is the machine able to work good ? Since the chain is bigger, it will demand much more force, no ?
Great saws, I bought this because my Echo BLEW UP.....and Couldn't get parts!!! This stihl is Way more comfortable, and just More pro grade....and you can GET cylinders and parts.....
Rickshaw Jack Drum sprockets are mostly found on home owner type saws although not always. They are expensive to replace and imo produce lower chain speeds than a rim sprocket. Rim sprockets are cheaper to replace and are mostly found on pro saws. I find my saws peform better with a rim sprocket fitted.
I can comment from expérience on such combination right now in spring with soft wood original works great on small stuff on hard wood with .50 it goes easy évén on larger stuff but keep rakers high . Original stuff doesn"t feed into hard wood by itself so you end up pushing the chain in the tree( I get tired) bot combinations are respective l'y good
Hey Don...just bought this exact saw today. How are you finding it has held up to this point ? I cut a ton of wood every year and have used my friends 192 and love it. Eveyone says the 192 is way better and more powerful. Any thoughts ?
donyboy73 ...thanks for the reply... i want it mostly for limbing and cutting small branches. I wished I had the funds for the 201 but this is all I could do for now. I will keep you up to date as I tend to give my saws good workouts. Hopefully it stands up !
G'day Donny haven't written to you for a while but I still subscribe and watch your vids. Never seen that kins of saw down here yet, looks good. My 250 saw could I put a longer bar and chain on it than the stock, beefed chain? Thanks mate JohnKinnane Tasmania
What bar a chain do you recommend I have the same chainsaw 193t. Where can I buy the bar and chain I live in Arizona. What oil do you recommend? What gasoline do you you recommend. Do you have any parts number to order either with you ,amazon or a local store?
I Just bought my ms 194t and luckily I was able to chose any bar and chain combo from my dealer, Im now awaiting metal dog bumper kit for the saw because it has plastic teeth I ended up with a 14 inch .50 gauge bar and 3/8ths chain
@@donyboy73 have you noticed that these top handle chainsaws leak a small amount of saw dust around the filter since there is a lack of rubber seal how do you feel about this ?
How was your ms194t Because I bought one of this but in the reviews they say is not good Can you tell me please because I want to return my or change for ms193t thx for your help!!
Okay I have 4 ms170's with 16" bars that I run 8 hours a day 7 days a week Logging, land-clearing, thinning and I admit that I can get them a little hot now & then and also I have to tinker with them often including disassembling, repairing, replacing, ect. and I do take very good care of them. These home owner saws are tough and get beat every day. I use only stihl premium mix , good gas & quality parts when needed. I'm gettin a little tired of tare downs & my newest 170 is giving me more problems than the others, most likely due to working it to hard. Dony what Stihl saw with 16" bar would you recommend for me to buy. Forums & reviews are rattling my brain for the past few years and I would like to move on to a stihl saw that would hold up to my needs & also be cost effective. Sure would like to get your opinion for my options.
I did remove spark arrestor and added 5/16 hole.. Went to dealer and lured technician into starting m'y saw And revv it hé was smiling ..havent touched ign adv yet
I wonder if battery saws are the future . I used one on a willow tree and was impressed. Plus I get highly annoyed if it takes as many pulls to get started as the saw in this video. I am a beginner , maybe 50 trees so far .I always use lines tied to other trees to keep them from falling on the neighbors property
He obviously dropped the big ones and we just chunked them up on the ground as we had no heavy equipment available. Had the city take down the electric lines in advance as the lot was very narrow and he wanted to avoid any hassle. They were pine trees and no danger to the house as they were at the back of the lot. Clean up took a few days, but we got it all.
What chainsaw chain and Where did you get It ? Can I purchase it On amazon. Keep Up the good work. My chainsaw saw keeps bogging down if I keep pressing the throttle it Stays on, I need it To stay one before I go up On a tree . I think it might be a carburetor issue. Any suggestions
I am considering purchasing this chainsaw to handle the jobs are a little bit much for my m18 fuel sawzalls, such as large fallen limbs. How well will this saw cut through wood that is 10" in diameter?
@@donyboy73 Thanks for getting back to me. Im currently cutting these types of branches with my sawzalls equipped with pruning blades, but it sometimes can take a while if there are knots or sap that im cutting through. I was doing some reading and found that i can put a more aggressive chain and bar on the saw as well as dog spikes. when you are you are saying that it may be slow, is that with stihl's default low kickback bar and chain, or is that if i were to use the same bar and chain that you are using your video? If you get a chance, can you cut through some larger tree sections?
@@shauncatlett6066 may be slow cutting through a 10" log but it can do it. I use a .050g bar and chain. They usually come with the .043g. The ms201t has a lot more pep for what you're doing
@@donyboy73 Thanks for clarifying what you were using on that MS 193T. I was initially also looking at the MS 201TCM, but backed off from it due to it being $680 and the mixed reviews i saw on the M-Tronic controller that it uses. Is the m-tronic feature any good, is it more trouble than its worth? Im not an arborist and dont use my saws everyday, but when they are used, they used very heavy. I will go with your suggestion if the power justifies the price point.
yea i think its correct, i have a measuring jug for it. I checked the spark plug and it was all covered in oil, i may need to replace it, previous owner may have mixed too much oil
that will do it for sure..make sure you completely empty your fuel can before putting new fuel and oil in..if you leave an inch of fuel in there and add more fuel, and oil, well you just added too much oil, and your mixture is going to be off..
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I swear by my little MS 192T. Great for dealing with limbs and small trees. Used it today to take down a limb which had smashed two smaller trees. Took down the two smaller trees and the limb predominantly with the MS 192T, although it did get pinched and my Husqvarna 455 Rancher had to help it out a bit. Between these two saws I feel pretty confident I can handle virtually all of our trees on our 100 acre farm.
Love this channel, keep up the great work.
Just bought an Ms 193T for pruning...a branches a few iches thick...cuts like butter really fast....this is the job this saw exceeds in....love it
Wish I had known you were looking for a 192T. I rebuilt one right around April. I got it from a pawn shop for $50. Ran erratic. Did a leakdown test and found a leak around the pan gasket. I put in new crank seals, sealed up the pan with Yamabond, rebuilt the carb, put in a new air filter, new throttle cable, a new chain, and new Caber piston rings. The crank bearings were good so I left them alone. When I was done the saw had 165 lbs of compression. Had I known you wanted one I would have sold it to you cheap. I kind of owe you for the knowledge and expertise you have passed along in small engine repair. At any rate, as a small engine mechanic myself, you have my gratitude for all of your videos. It's always nice learning new things from people like you that, no doubt have forgotten more about small engine repair than I will ever learn myself.
+pbrstreetgng79 thanks anyway
I bought the 193 T December of 2020, have gone thru 5 tanks of fuel so far & am very happy with it. It has been up in trees trimming using 13 of the 14 in bar. Will do the job.
I'm just starting my company. I bought this saw for in tree use only. first time owning a stihl and man am I so dang Happy I did. it's a stihl u can't go wrong if the pro chainsaw competitors use it for ever competition. Love this saw.
Hi Don: Own a ms192t, 12 yrs original bar, use for trail patrol in WI. It gets used near a dozen times a year for clearing falls on trail, totally trouble free. Great performance.
Thank you so much for taking your time to make your videos... They are always very informative and precise.
Just got one yesterday and used it today. Great little saw for pruning and cutting up branches. Saves me from pulling out the big saw for small jobs.
+Jim Flynn I like mine too
It is so very good to finally find a video that shows, at least in part, how to start this chainsaw. Most “reviewers” totally fail to do this.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the look at the saw. Looks like an interesting design. I have been very happy with the ms 180c you suggested to me on Facebook. I look forward to up grading the bar and chain to the .50 size. Hope to see more videos of your 193t to see how its holding up.
I just picked up 2 non running 192t's. Thanks for putting your videos out.
Helpful video! Thanks! I use an ms193t for in-tree work. It's well-suited for that work and essentially trouble free. I like your idea of using a .050 chain and bar. I'll swap in the .050 gear this week.
Thank you DonnyBoy73 for making this video. I purchased one after watching it around the end of February. I have this old Pecan tree that was in desperate need of pruning. Thankfully, because of its light weight, it made it easy to carry up the tree using the loop, and was very manageable with one hand operations( I know two hands). When I purchased it, the rep. at ACE told me that if I bought the oil/fuel mix (large can) it would extend the warranty one more year, so now I have plenty of fuel and an added year of warranty. I think I will buy the 200 model as I want to mill some large oak trees that were felled by some pros. a couple of years ago. Thanks again.
+The Christian Frontiersman you're welcome, I really like mine!
This one has a fundemental update over the 192T. The 193T is a Stratified engine now, or so as STIHL call it "2-Mix" technology where the engine from the intake through it's cylinder&piston's transfer ports are different, more complex and designed to have an extra air flow in a unique pattern & timing to add power while reduce emissions.
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I just purchased the new MS 170, and I have not even started it yet. Bought it for it's lightweight use for mainly limb cutting..Can't wait to give her a go....I also have the "Farm Boss" MS290 with a 20" bar, and it came with a 16" bar, but I find it cuts better with the 20"... Can't beat a stihl....
I won for a year and a half been using it every day since total beast🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Any chainsaw is going to have something that could be better or improved. As far as I'm concerned. Stihl chainsaws are the best. I've been climbing for 15 years. My more expensive Stihl chainsaw was stolen from me and I needed a chainsaw quick to do a very nice paying job. If you really actually know what you're doing up in a tree . Then,..for the money. You cannot beat this chainsaw.
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Tip : No need to Prime just full choke. Turn choke off when it sputters usually the 2nd pull and starts on the 3rd pull. The dealer told me no need to prime when purchased and I never have! Great saw! I like the larger chain as well.
This saw is also a professional grade saw along with the 201t. The 201 is just the upper end model. I think they are both great saws. One advantage to this over the 201t-cm is you can adjust the carb.
Good video, short, simple, informative. I’m thinking of getting on of these for chainsaw carving.
You mentioned in the beginning of the video that you wanted to make the chain last longer. I totally agree. The amount of time it takes to maintain a chain is the biggest problem with owning and using a chainsaw. That's why I mostly use carbide chains, especially on the bars I use most often. Carbide chains last more than ten times as long between sharpening for me. The time I waste touching up the chains was costing way too much compared to the cost of the chain.
Where do you buy carbide chains
@@soledadlara1594 Stihl dealership or Rural Kung.
Donny did you have to change the rim sprocket to adapt the new bar and chain
nice saw. I also got the 2 year warranty on my Stihl leaf blower. I wonder about the spring assist start, as well (your doesn't have it.)
Great demo vid Don, it's nice to buy something new for your self now and then. Cheers and have a great weekend.
I am now really glad that I bought the Husqvarna 435t
Instead of the ms193t
Starts first pull even after months of not running, and has a much more sporty sound 35cc, thanks for clearing any doubts I had
I don't like 435t even with muffler mod .Had an Echo 355t w muffler mod ,that was a get it saw. It had a run in w some log. It lost..RIP
I use the saws daily .echo is the way to go.
I have had my 193t 2 years love it wondering how big a bar is ok to put on it. I have had 2 back surgeries can’t handle any heavier. Thanks
I just went out and bought one. Haven't got a chance to use it yet though. This will actually be the first time I've ever used one. I bought it to clean my property up.
Could you explain why you prefer not to have the easy start? Is it troublesome? I have a 180ce. I like it and have not had any trouble, but I don't give it heavy use.
I bought mine in 2017 and don't know if they had the warranty extension then or not; at least they said nothing about it. I kept the saw stock .043 and 14". I really like it a lot here on the farm when trimming trees and such. Rented a man lift this summer for two big trees to clear leaners away from buildings and did use the snap to secure saw to man lift, just in case oops.
This chainsaw is the best of Stihl. Lightweight, powerful for one-handed use, with easy-start reliability. The added weight of the 201 isn't worth the trade up for its extra 7cc's of power. Unless you need the 201 in-tree, this is the small saw to have IMO.
Right on. The ms193 does everything the 201 does and costs about half as much
It's not for one handed use
Era 404 when you're a professional arborist like myself, one handed use is a way of life. It has to be done sometimes and is safe as long as you know what you're doing
I have the MS 192 TC and It's a decent saw when trimming while aloft. Doesn't weigh me down and being a big guy the last thing that I need while climbing trees is more weight.
I've seen professional Arborists using this exact saw. Very nicely made saw indeed! Built tough!
The Stihl MotoMix premixed fuel is expensive, but it's ethanol free and 92 octane. This fuel works like a charm!
I finally came across a good deal on a MS200T which was on my wish list for a few years. I was fortunate in that it was owned by a casual home owner who took exceptional care if it. Enjoy your new saw in good health Don! Cheers! Zip~
+ZippoVarga thanks
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I wore out the predecessor to this saw (020 top handle). The 020 had significantly more power but twice the weight. I will take the newer lighter weight saw over the old one. I use the saw for light pruning of trees and shrubs 8" and smaller limbs. GREAT SAW
Got my Saw last week I had Dealer change Bar and chain they put on pointer bar on easier to trim pygmy date palms here in Florida Got mine at BROKEN BLADE here in Port Charlotte Florida
Looking at purchasing one secondhand, appreciate the honest review.
Whr did u come up with the oil mixing .The oil u want to run is synthetic .my 044 this has the same plug from 1998. I have never did a cycle for any saw
Very informative video, well worth watching. Info on the various models was of particular importance.
very nice.....last year i bought a stihl entry level home owners saw and its excellent...plenty of power.....gr8 vid!
these are great little saws we have a 192. wouldnt be my choice if I could only have one, but great addition for lighter work
nice don. If you ever want to buy a saw in the 50cc size range i would reccomened looking at the husqvarna 550xp, they are very fast, powerful and reliable saws. the autotune is nice but i wouldnt know how to fix it.
hi dony, I have a 2012 Troy built tb230 with a 6.75hp engine. for a year it's been making a noise like a rattle or something when it hits a good rpm. I was told it's the rod but I know what a rod knock sounds like and it's not even near it. when I go over tall grass it stops the noise and comes back. it's not the blade I know that but I don't know what the nose is. I can put a video Up on my channel if you need to listen to it. what do you think it is and what can I do.
Was that a table top band saw in the shot along with the Ridgid Chop saw? How do you like it?
I have a 192T, good little saw. Not the easiest to work on because it is so compact.
Okay I have 4 ms170's with 16" bars that I run 8 hours a day 7 days a week Logging, land-clearing, thinning and I admit that I can get them a little hot now & then and also I have to tinker with them often including disassembling, repairing, replacing, ect. and I do take very good care of them. These home owner saws are tough and get beat every day. I use only stihl premium mix , good gas & quality parts when needed. I'm gettin a little tired of tare downs & my newest 170 is giving me more problems than the others, most likely due to working it to hard. Dony what Stihl saw with 16" bar would you recommend for me to buy. Forums & reviews are rattling my brain for the past few years and I would like to move on to a stihl saw that would hold up to my needs & also be cost effective. Sure would like to get your opinion for my options.
Great little saw, similiar to the 35cc 200t, albeit a little less power.
Hello Dony Having watched your review a few times, I bought myself an ms193t this week. I was undecided at first, I'd heard that they didn?t perform as well as the 192t which is still available here in Spain where I live. I looked around for some more information and spoke to a guy on an arborist site forum who'd worked on and with both saws and he reckoned that they were both very good , he'd found the 193 to be both very tough and powerful for it's size. He also mentioned that it`s posible to make a simple muffler mod which improves overall performance without damaging the saw, I'll add a link below just in case you'd like to check it out. I used mine today for the first time and was very impressed with how well it cut, I got it mainly to do light work, pruning, clearing and working from a ladder, it handled everything with ease sailing through thicker branches too 8-10 inches. I was working on and off for about 4 hours in all and didn't feel tired, this saw's so light. I noticed the throttle response is a little slower than on my other Stihl saws, especially when started from cold, but once the revs are up, it cuts really well. I'm very pleased with it overall. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your channel, it's excellent, you're a gifted teacher and your videos are so well made, they have been a huge help to me on many occasions when I've had mechanical problems and had almost given up. Thank you and please keep up the good work, Matthewlink: Introducing ths Stihl MS193T/Aboristsite.com
+Matthew Somers thanks Matthew
Always great videos from you.
do have thesame saw, sadly, i've fucked up about while cutting firewood, the chain fucked up and broke off the extend thing for loose or to tighten it, so every 15min i've need to move reposition the saw blade ;c but still is useable,
Whats the compression of it right now
thanks very helpful, well done.
I have found that the newer Stihl saws don't like a lot of choke, especially if it is warm out. 2 or 3 pulls max and then turn off the choke.
Great informative videos. Can you recommend a homeowner saw for basic around the house use. One that would be easy to maintain and repair if need be
+Robert McNamara I would recommend the Stihl ms170 or ms180
Donny boy quick question is this your side job or full time job.
That’s why I bought a G2500. I do not use a top handle saw very much. I think I stuck the G2500 under my table saw in the shop. I will find it if I need it. My G2500 starts a lot easier than your 193T. I put an Oregon 12 Prolite bar and Oregon 91 series chain on it. I saw your saw on sale at my local Stihl dealer for $369 a few weeks ago. If I want another top handle saw I will build the 200T from Huztl.
Have you done a tuneup on your chainsaw? Have you worked or do you have any other updates on this chainsaw? I just bought a used one exactly like yours. Mine looks a lil rough . Just want to work on it on my vacation week . Great videos by the way. Keep up the good work.
I haven't used it much so i haven't needed to do anything to it yet.
I own the 192t and it seems to have a big more power to it than the 193t not sure why that is but I always pick the 192 over the 193
looks like a great compact saw. Any chance you can blow it's top end so we can have another repair video? ☺
I have this exact same saw. I have been an arborist since the 1980s. Rather than coach you on a few deficiencies, I just recommend keeping the manual!! Do as it says. Very little outside of that is good, unless you have massive professional experience. Watch out, too, for going outside of the instructions. You can very easily void your warranty!!
I will say though, this top handle isn't just good for cutting branches, it is FOR pruning trees! That's why it is so compact.
Please, use your ear plugs or muffs!
I'm thinking of getting this saw for mountain bike trail building (building jumps made with wood and clearing tiny trees and shrubs). Is it worth it?
yes it is, the ms180 is also good and a bit cheaper
nice saw but are those log dogs plastic?
Looks like a really good saw, especially for occasional use. Nice to have the break-in and oil tips. Also - would a Honda GX120 that is overspeeding/not governing cause carburetor flooding. I know that is not related to this video, but I need some advice. Thanks!!
+99carnot not usually, could be a bad carburetor
+donyboy73 Thanks very much - this one has me puzzled. Will suggest a new carburetor, along with disassembling the engine to find the governor problem.
Dear Sir: I have owned a stihl ms192t for about 2 1/2 years. I really enjoy this saw. Just great for pruning orchards. The 192t has carb adjusting screws. I understand that the 193t has an intele-carb carb installed. Does this saw have any carb adjust ? Do you know of any way of adjusting the carb without a computer tie in to the carb. Is there any port on the carb that will allow you to program the carb? Thanks
+jim wright Hello Jim, I'm going to buy a top handle saw myself and as I couldn`t decide between the 192t or 193t (both are available here in spain where I live) I went to speak to my local stihl dealer's mechanic to get his opinión. He's worked on both saws and reckoned that the 193 was better made, he said that there were various small changes made to improve the saw in general, stronger crank-case, clutch cover nut you cant lose, apart from the intellicarb, which has plastic limiters installed to prevent tuning, the carb is pre-set to ensure smooth operation in conjunction with the new muffler , both designed to reduce emmisions and protect the environment. He has clients that use both saws professionally and although wary at first, said they're very happy with the 193, finding it equally as reliable and more 'torquey' than the 192, which is a proven machine. He also said that it wouldn't be too difficult to remove the limiting plugs ,re-tune the carb and modify the muffler to gain some more power if you feel that way inclined, although as far as he knew none of his clients had seen any need to do so. I`m going to pick mine up this week. I trust this guy's opinión, he could have sold me either saw and had no reason to steer me toward one in particular. hope this is helpful. Matthew Somers
You mentioned in the video that you like how you can hook the saw to a belt. Are talking about an arborist saddle/harness or the belt loop on your pants?
+ian “treejunkie101” martin On an arborist saddle Martin. The saw could very well be heavy enough to rip your belt loop, and fall to the ground below. Cheers! Zip~
ZippoVarga A belt loop can take around 80 pounds of force before it rips, unless the stitching is bad. I've never heard him say he has a saddle, and I'm wondering if hes even used it in a tree
Hang a drill in one pant loop and a chainsaw on another. Everyone does that, right next to the mag light...
Now you are ready for anything.
Saddles are for horses.
I only hang a saw from my harness. That's a lot safer and easier to use. I use a shock absorbing, breakaway saw lanyard to keep from being dragged out of a tree if the saw gets hung on a falling branch
Thanks for the video review
I have one of those I rebuilt with a Chinese top end and it has been a pretty good little saw
I really like the saw it has the perfect amount of power
Hi. I have the same saw for 3 or 4 years now. Did you just put another bar and chain on it or are these options ? Like you say the original chain is much smaller and will wear faster
I beefed it up with a .050 gauge bar and chain
What do you recommend ? use the original till it's warn or directly go for the .050 gauge bar and chain ?
Is the machine able to work good ? Since the chain is bigger, it will demand much more force, no ?
works good, I usually wait until I need a new bar and chain then I upgrade
Great saws, I bought this because my Echo BLEW UP.....and Couldn't get parts!!! This stihl is Way more comfortable, and just More pro grade....and you can GET cylinders and parts.....
Is a drum sprocket better than a rim? What is the difference, and why would you want one over the other?
Thanks!
Rickshaw Jack Drum sprockets are mostly found on home owner type saws although not always. They are expensive to replace and imo produce lower chain speeds than a rim sprocket. Rim sprockets are cheaper to replace and are mostly found on pro saws. I find my saws peform better with a rim sprocket fitted.
Runs better with .043 gauge and a 14 inch bar.
.050 has just enough extra mass to noticeably hurt acceleration
Dan Henderson .043 12" bar is perfect for this topper.
I can comment from expérience on such combination right now in spring with soft wood original works great on small stuff on hard wood with .50 it goes easy évén on larger stuff but keep rakers high . Original stuff doesn"t feed into hard wood by itself so you end up pushing the chain in the tree( I get tired) bot combinations are respective l'y good
Hey Don...just bought this exact saw today. How are you finding it has held up to this point ? I cut a ton of wood every year and have used my friends 192 and love it. Eveyone says the 192 is way better and more powerful. Any thoughts ?
I don't use mine much so it's still like new. I agree that the 192t was better built though
donyboy73 ...thanks for the reply... i want it mostly for limbing and cutting small branches. I wished I had the funds for the 201 but this is all I could do for now. I will keep you up to date as I tend to give my saws good workouts. Hopefully it stands up !
Hey Don. You ever handle an 020 ? Best saw ever made. This review reminded me of them.
+Douglas Alan no but I have parts here
G'day Donny haven't written to you for a while but I still subscribe and watch your vids. Never seen that kins of saw down here yet, looks good. My 250 saw could I put a longer bar and chain on it than the stock, beefed chain? Thanks mate JohnKinnane Tasmania
+John Kinnane up to 18" I think, you can convert to 3/8" pitch
What bar a chain do you recommend I have the same chainsaw 193t. Where can I buy the bar and chain I live in Arizona. What oil do you recommend? What gasoline do you you recommend. Do you have any parts number to order either with you ,amazon or a local store?
go to your local stihl dealer
Hi Dony. It seems to be a nice - light saw. I want to buy one for my father who 's almost 70age. does it worth buying it ???
+ice25781 yes I'm very happy about it
You said the ignition module is guaranteed for life but I don't have any paperwork and mine is only 6 months old and not firing anymore
Would love to have a chainsaw like that. Small but powerful.
Can you please do more on poulan please
question ,,,how much compression do we need to have on a small engine for it to run? is it atleast 90 ? or less will do ?
+MrGarcon98 usually at very least 90
well thank you ,everyone says all kinds of numbers .thanks
I Just bought my ms 194t and luckily I was able to chose any bar and chain combo from my dealer, Im now awaiting metal dog bumper kit for the saw because it has plastic teeth
I ended up with a 14 inch .50 gauge bar and 3/8ths chain
exact bar and chain combo I have
@@donyboy73 have you noticed that these top handle chainsaws leak a small amount of saw dust around the filter since there is a lack of rubber seal how do you feel about this ?
How was your ms194t
Because I bought one of this but in the reviews they say is not good
Can you tell me please because I want to return my or change for ms193t thx for your help!!
I love to see what the pros buy. It gives a good indication of what to buy.
Dony,
What would you look for in a used generator? What would you avoid?
Okay I have 4 ms170's with 16" bars that I run 8 hours a day 7 days a week Logging, land-clearing, thinning and I admit that I can get them a little hot now & then and also I have to tinker with them often including disassembling, repairing, replacing, ect. and I do take very good care of them. These home owner saws are tough and get beat every day. I use only stihl premium mix , good gas & quality parts when needed. I'm gettin a little tired of tare downs & my newest 170 is giving me more problems than the others, most likely due to working it to hard. Dony what Stihl saw with 16" bar would you recommend for me to buy. Forums & reviews are rattling my brain for the past few years and I would like to move on to a stihl saw that would hold up to my needs & also be cost effective. Sure would like to get your opinion for my options.
Nice to have a machine you dont have to repair lol :-D
+zx8401ztv yes lol
Have you ever found a case for this unit MS 193 T
a large lunchbox or cooler would work. maybe a backpack or boot box
I just bought the same saw. what are your thoughts on doing a muffler mod.
I never thought about that
i have
I did remove spark arrestor and added 5/16 hole.. Went to dealer and lured technician into starting m'y saw And revv it hé was smiling ..havent touched ign adv yet
Hey dony what do u think about the makita battery powered chainsaw it takes two batteries and it looks awesome
The Stihl battery operated chainsaws' are a lot better
I wonder if battery saws are the future . I used one on a willow tree and was impressed. Plus I get highly annoyed if it takes as many pulls to get started as the saw in this video. I am a beginner , maybe 50 trees so far .I always use lines tied to other trees to keep them from falling on the neighbors property
a friend plans to get me gong . I helped with 6 trees , the largest being 42 in diameter near the base.
He obviously dropped the big ones and we just chunked them up on the ground as we had no heavy equipment available. Had the city take down the electric lines in advance as the lot was very narrow and he wanted to avoid any hassle. They were pine trees and no danger to the house as they were at the back of the lot. Clean up took a few days, but we got it all.
I have the oil really good oil guarantees all the warranties on all my machines set
i will buy this saw soon
What chainsaw chain and
Where did you get
It ? Can I purchase it
On amazon. Keep
Up the good work. My chainsaw saw keeps bogging down if I keep pressing the throttle it
Stays on, I need it
To stay one before
I go up
On a tree
. I think it might be a carburetor issue. Any suggestions
chain is from Stihl dealer. you can try turning out the L and H screws a bit, it may stop the bogging
I am considering purchasing this chainsaw to handle the jobs are a little bit much for my m18 fuel sawzalls, such as large fallen limbs. How well will this saw cut through wood that is 10" in diameter?
might be a bit slow
@@donyboy73 Thanks for getting back to me. Im currently cutting these types of branches with my sawzalls equipped with pruning blades, but it sometimes can take a while if there are knots or sap that im cutting through. I was doing some reading and found that i can put a more aggressive chain and bar on the saw as well as dog spikes. when you are you are saying that it may be slow, is that with stihl's default low kickback bar and chain, or is that if i were to use the same bar and chain that you are using your video? If you get a chance, can you cut through some larger tree sections?
@@shauncatlett6066 may be slow cutting through a 10" log but it can do it. I use a .050g bar and chain. They usually come with the .043g. The ms201t has a lot more pep for what you're doing
@@donyboy73 Thanks for clarifying what you were using on that MS 193T. I was initially also looking at the MS 201TCM, but backed off from it due to it being $680 and the mixed reviews i saw on the M-Tronic controller that it uses. Is the m-tronic feature any good, is it more trouble than its worth? Im not an arborist and dont use my saws everyday, but when they are used, they used very heavy. I will go with your suggestion if the power justifies the price point.
@@donyboy73 Thank you by way, for taking the time to try and answer my questions. i really appreciate it
dony would you recomend the husqvarna t540xp top handle chainsaw
+Kai Burch I have never had one in the shop but I'm sure it's a good saw
A arborist buddy of mine has a Husky and it is a great saw. More power and torque, but you will pay for it.
Bonjour. Quelle huile 2 temps utilisez vous et à quel pourcentage ? Merci. Bonjour de France 🇫🇷
j'utilise l'huile de Stihl et a 45:1
@@donyboy73 merci, par contre pourquoi un tel mélange avec l'huile stihl hp super ? On m'a conseillé 50 pour un.
@@mabgn8807 je melange 45:1 parce-que ca donne un petit peut plus d'huile
my hedge trimmer is very smokey, any ideas? the vid of it running is on my channel, please help
Is your oil and fuel mixture ratio correct. If you have too much oil it will make it smoke
yea i think its correct, i have a measuring jug for it. I checked the spark plug and it was all covered in oil, i may need to replace it, previous owner may have mixed too much oil
that will do it for sure..make sure you completely empty your fuel can before putting new fuel and oil in..if you leave an inch of fuel in there and add more fuel, and oil, well you just added too much oil, and your mixture is going to be off..
+Man Of Stihl cheers. thanks
Nice little saw
The best chainsaw, excelent power for profesionals only. The choice of our arborist.
So the power is no good for the average homeowner? 🤷♂️😂
nice little saw don. i hope to have one myself someday. you make nice videos. i look forward to fridays. keep them coming.
+Robert Waid thanks robert
what do u do with the .43 gauge bar and chain?
+Robert Waid I used on an MS170
Does this have an automatic oiler or is it an adjustable oiler?
AUTOMATIC, NON ADJUSTABLE
Thank you, and God bless ya
I just bought one, thanks to your review, Climb and cut safe my friend.....
Doesn’t seem to put out enough oil.
Good video Don, nothing beats Stihl!
+jakethesnakemo thanks
Mine came with a resident chain and bar smh