Comparing Every Ultralight Backpack Pa'lante Has Made
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- Pa'lante Packs have been selling ultralight backpacks now for about 5 years, though Andy Bentz had been making them a bit longer for his own thru hikes. His Continental Divide Trail thru hike, as well as his John Muir Trail Fastest Known Time were both done using a custom backpack he had made for himself. John Zahorian later used one of his packs to hike the Appalachian Trail. The two teamed up to make some very thru hiker focused, ultralight focused, functionality, and efficiency focused backpacks! They named themselves Pa'lante Packs.
Today we look at all of the packs I own from them and a bit of my personal history with them, and why I've stuck by them. I had first gotten their Simple Pack when I was hiking the International Appalachian Trail, which I then went on to use for the Appalachian Trail, Benton Mackaye Trail, and Pinhoti Trail. I used their Cuben Simple Pack to set a speed record on the Florida Trail and finish up my Eastern Continental Trail thru hike. I used the V2(Lightweight Pack) on the Pacific Crest Trail, Sheltowee Trace Trail, and on the Florida Trail for a second time. The Joey I used on the Uinta Highline Trail as well as the Pacific Northwest Trail. And that brings us to now!
I look forward to using their Ultralight Backpack and updated Joey Pack on my future hikes! Both have been made to be lighter, more durable, and retain the same functionality and features of the old packs, with some extras thrown in as well!
I'm still good friends with both Andy and John today, and though I'm not sure it needs to be said, I have received most of these for free. Even still, I wouldn't use them, and wouldn't care if I didn't love them and think they are amazing.
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That's the most Pa'Lante packs I've ever seen at a single viewing,,,on or off trail. Glad I got to see this!
Thank you for putting this together for us. You’re the reason i know about these guys
This was a really interesting video and I appreciate all the comparisons.
Very informative and thorough! Thanks for the vid!
Meowhikes has a great video comparing both Joey packs. I think he is the only one who has compared those two, specifically, so far. Great video Jupiter.
Dude it's time! I get paid Wednesday and if they're still in stock, I'm pulling the trigger!?!
Great video man, can't say it enough how good it is to see ya coming out with new content
I met you about 50 miles after this in the 100 mile wilderness in a shelter. You were so excited by that pack lol
just picked up a v2 - very excited to get some use out of it in 2021
Hey bro great to see you again. Hope you had a great Christmas and just wanted to wish you a very Happy New year and may 2021 bring you much success. Stay safe and catch up again real soon.
I am so excited! I finally purchased the V2! I have been waiting for 2 years. I first wanted to make sure ultralight was me. That was over a year ago and then they were always out of stock. So after this year's hike and using a pack that was heavy (3 lbs) and that was way too big (I carried all my food for 200 miles with enough room to spare. Enough for 10 Rubik's Cubes, a Chess Board, and my stunt kite. Cheers!
My brain made a weird free-association while watching this. In Amarillo TX, the art group _Ant Farm_ buried a bunch of 1950s Cadillacs in the ground as a way to show off the evolution of the tail fins. My brain felt that this video was a similar ode to Pa'lante packs, with them all lined up like that, outdoors against a log.
Thank you for this im definitely getting a updated joey
Jupiter is such a great thigh. Guy. I meant, guy.
Some people like cars, some people like jewelry, sitting on a line of pa’lante packs though...that’s living
Super review. Thank you man
My gridstop V2 has done pretty well in some intense Alpine downpours. I do use a nylofume liner as a little insurance though 😉
It’s amazing that people make a living backpacking! Go on you Jupiter!
20:29 I always thought it was better to keep your weight lower (and of course closer to your back).
but anyway being larger on top makes some sense since your bulkier items are typically lower weight per unit volume so if you put your food and gear at the bottom and your sleeping bag and puffy etc at the top that would give you a pretty good weight distribution.
One of your best gear videos I’ve seen. Nice job!
What a cool idea!
P'alante is from contracting "para adelante", meaning "go ahead", maybe "g'head!"...it would be nice to know how they name their pack like this...Great video, as usual!
creo que Andrew vivía en un país que habla español cuando era más joven
@@alexhonken o que hubiera estado en Méjico y pidiendo indicaciones le dijeran "eso está p'alante" con acento chicano...y eso se acabara convirtiéndose en una anécdota graciosa del camino...yo me lo imagino así!
Epic video!!!!
Interesting you show Arizona backdrops lol flagstaff? Just completed Tusyan to superior sobo about a month ago water was tight lots of cow ponds lol stopped at superior mental fatigue 4x40 days to start 32 average and the trail overgrowth-was getting scary. Saw one other thruhiker the whole time got tired of talking to cows love your videos I’m 59 years old this year and my friends say I should start an old mans version of your channel take care
Just got the ultralight pack and thanks to Jupiter I got to get both the pack and the fleece! 🤙🏼
Did you get the ultralight or lightweight?
I bought LW since UL has been OS for a year
I have a 500 mile section hike I aim to do this summer in under 25 days. Trying to dial in my gear enough to fit one of these bad boys.
When are the desert packs coming?!!!!
Why is this so interesting to watch?
Because gear is cool!!!
Do a video please about the American Discovery Trail please...I am interested in an expert's opinion of this trail....
Can I ask. Is the little hole at the bottom where you put in trash also rolled a couple of times to prevent trash from falling out or is it unnecessary when the hole is that small?
22:33 commercial. Good job. Showing what can be put into each pack would be great.
For all these trails referenced I think I've done a gear list video! So a bit back you can see exactly what I had carried
I like your quarter zip. 😁
Curious to know what all the volumes of each backpack is. Thanks
you gonna review that fleece you're wearing from them too? I've got one and love it, also are you looking forward to the desert pack cuz I definitely am
I was thinking of doing a comparison video between the palante fleece and my kuiu. Very different but similar!
@@JupiterHikes i bet, i think that would be interesting to see personally speaking
Yeah boyyyyyy
Have you even ran in the Joey? How does it do for bounce?
any idea how much weight you could save by slicing off the hip belt of a newer v2? the xpac and dyneema mesh calls to me more than the robic / lycra, but 17oz seems a little heavy. wouldn't use the belt webbing so if I could get it down to like 14-15oz it would be perfect
Might be able to get it down to 15.5 or so but it's hard to say. Ultimately it's nice to have, and my girlfriend enjoyed it this past year but I understand if you're trying to shave bits
@@JupiterHikes thanks brotha, sub 16oz ain't bad. appreciate ya
Cheers. Can you tell me how much wider and thicker the shoulder straps are on the new Lightweight Pack as opposed to the old V2?
I don't have the newer one but if the UL pack is any reference I'd say nearly twice as wide as the prototype V2 you see in the video
@@JupiterHikes Thank you!
Solid gear for sure. I still think they missed the mark regarding some details that, to me is a major oversight. For example ; on Joey II.....the sternum straps have no elastic or give in them. Why would you not do this?? Almost ever other pack I’ve owned has this simple yet crucial feature. IMO, it compromises the comfort of the harness system. Also, the sternum straps themselves are super short. Again, small oversight but why?? I’m a skinny dude so I know it would be an issues for others as well. Given the running very style of Joey harness, the sternum straps are key in comfort. In my experience if you don’t use the sternum straps, the soft mesh of the shoulder straps rolls inward.
For a refined pack that has so much going for it, it’s a little confusing as to how this could be missed..especially at these price points. But what do I know?!
For any long distance hiker, these small details become larger details over time..I still dig their products though!
I'll definitely engineer it into my future pack, once they're available, which is never. x'D
Which would be the best for use as a day pack? I really need a good bag my longer day hikes!
I’d recommend the Joey!
Will you do a video of your van build?
On the list of things to do soon!
Great packs, but production is frustrating. Months of waiting; on their email notification list; never get notified in time; always sold out.
The real question is, how do you fit them all in your van...Storage unit would be my guess, but, then again, you are pretty hard core...LOL..Thanx
They all fit fine in my big gear bin in the van, but I think I am going to send a couple of them to a friend for storage since I don't need this many beyond filming something like this.
what a happy looking father lol
A historical event
Has the lack of waterproofing been a huge issue with just a pack liner? I can't fit my 0deg EE quilt in its stuff sack so I plan to ditch the stuff sack. I'm worried that a pack liner it's not enough protection.
I have never once had a problem with just a pack liner. It essentially acts as a giant waterproof stuff sack, and so long as you replace it every blue moon or so it is good!
@@JupiterHikes Oh hey, Jupiter! I didn't realize that you are still around answering questions on old videos! You're so cool! Thanks for the confidence and happy hiking to you!!
haha i speak spanish and its so funny that they use palante cause thats super slag shortened way to say para adelante, - pa adelante,- palante, would never guessed thats from spanish hahaha cause its so slang and not official language
I wish I could try their stuff. Most of the store has been sold out for like 2 years now
Same here, how do we get one?
The lightweight backpack is available on their website as of right now. I have been eyeing their packs, but my gear budget is spent for the year. Maybe next year😀
The 19" torso Lightweight pack is in stock right now. Follow them on instagram @palantepacks for more info on releases as that's where they're most active!
@@JupiterHikes i got one, @JupiterHikes
Great video! That's a lot of packs! I've yet to try one of these since I still prefer a framed option, but I've always been curious. One question: Is John Z still around? Is he still with Palante?
It’s at 7:00 but I suggest watching all of it
Dude where are you it's been a month!
Family emergency so I went to Florida for a month. Just finished editing the next video so all's good!
Is it necessary to carry a bear canister if you sleep with your food and guard it with your life?
Some places require it, in which case definitely yes carry one. Otherwise I don't think I'd use one of I didn't need to. Maybe grizzly country but I can't speak on that well enough
@@JupiterHikes I can't trust the loksak, I ripped it in one day and I was being careful with it. I'm trying to find a replacement, so I'm going to submerge air-filled bags of various make and see what holds air. Do you have any other suggestions for odor-resistant containers?
I tested a few bags and they all released air underwater. However, I was able to use a hot knife to seal the ends of the zippers on a double-zipper Ikea bag and that bag now holds a lot of pressure before leaking. I will use those over the loksak now and they are wayyy cheaper.
How do we get that fleece? Palante Patreon Jupiter Hikes special edition?
i recall seeing it on the palante website a couple weeks ago before the website redesign. you can probably buy aftermarket or email them
for a second i thought that backpack brand was venezuelan lol
plentypalante
4th !!! 🍀
I need a dedicated waterproof pouch up front for my weed.
What happened to John Z?
He's out there in the world doing some stuff!
@@JupiterHikes Still hoping for that morning I wake up and all his videos are back online! Haha Great video, love my V2 and Ultralight.
And I can’t get a single one lol
Hi, how are you?
~ The temperature in Seoul this morning was -12'C. Winter and cold have begun in earnest.
I hope you will be healthier this week. ^O^
I legit make money flipping used palante packs lol
I can't downvote this because it's Jupiter but fuck Pa'lante and their FOMO business model. There's far too many other cottage companies out here making quality packs and you don't have to continuously stalk their social media sites just to earn the privilege to MAYBE purchase one of their products (if you're fast enough with that credit card). The number of their products that wind up on ULgeartrade is a testament to their overhype. Hard pass.