Ahhh, the good old days of TV. Notice, the show lasts 26 minutes. That means that out of a half hour program, only 4 minutes were commercials. There were two minutes every 13 mins. And there were no lawyers or doctors (they werent allowed to advertise on TV). Now you get 4 mins. of ads every 5 mins. of program and they sell more drugs and cars than anything else. TV sure has come way down as a medium of entertaiment, including in the decency and intelligence areas. I miss the true golden age of TV : the 50s and 60s, especially the early 60s.
They don’t need to have as many commercials since we stare at the brand name of the sponsor for the whole show. It says it on on the panelists desk, on the chalkboard, and a picture of the product is on the cards John flips. I don’t imagine you’re saying you’d prefer the product name or item be visible throughout every show.
This was actually cut down to air on modern TV, gameshow network I believe, so there were actually even less commercials in the 30 minutes, I read somewhere that at least for a while they only had 1 or 2 minute spots for commercials.
@@KristopherBel Correct. As I recall, in this time frame (late 1950's) in prime time there was typically 1 minute of advertising at beginning of a half-hour show, one minute in the middle, and generally one minute at the end which segued into the following program.
Chuck Connors seemed like a great man. My mother was a nurse, and chuck was one of her patients once. She was from the same place as Chuck's parents (Newfoundland). She said he was a great guy, and he seems it. The interaction between him and Branch Rickey seemed so genuine and warm
Chuck grew up as Kevin Connors in Brooklyn. He got the nickname "Chuck" because when he played baseball in college at Seton Hall in NJersey, he would chatter to the pitcher to "chuck it over to first base, baby." or would tell his pitcher to "Chuck it in there(strikezone)." Fans in the stands loved it and started calling him 'Chuck'. He hated Kevin, so he adopted it.
I enjoyed the "conference" Arlene had with Chuck Connors, asking him what other types of people might be considered with respect to baseball, and as soon as Mr. Connors said, "We could talk about the people who control the leagues and run them, like the league presidents and the Commissioner of Baseball," which immediately inspired Miss Francis to shout out, "Oh! Is it Branch Rickey?" That was a very nice little collaberation between the two of them, and very effective!
+ToddSF 94109 By watching these I can tell that Arlene is quite knowledgeable about baseball. Ask anybody, male or female, today who the baseball commissioner is.
+Dick Wilson -- True. I think Arlene was one of those people who thoroughly read the paper and took note of people and situations. Branch Rickey definitely was in the newspapers when it came to his attempt to establish a third major league in baseball. But you're right, I don't know who the baseball commissioner is. Then again, I have little interest in baseball today.
@@sagarsaxena6318 If you replay about 9:05, the audience did not applaud until after Arlene guessed that it was Branch Rickey because the new league he led had recently been begun, so it was likely he would be on after all the publicity.
haha love Branch Rickey's dig at the Dodgers...."The Pirates beat them today"....Mr. Rickey was unceremoniously kicked out of the Dodger organization by new owner Walter O' Malley years earlier...he then went on to become the General Manager of the Pirates, but will always best be remembered for integrating major league baseball and indirectly bringing another major league baseball team to New York (the Mets)....thanks for all your significant contributions to the game of baseball Mr. Rickey
+Will Drucker Absolutely right Will. Though Jackie Robinson gets the credit as the man that integrated baseball, the man that really took the risk was Branch Rickey.
Jack and Rachel Robinson always considered it a partnership between Robinson and Rickey. One of the things they appreciated was that Rickey never acted paternalistic towards Robinson and admitted that it was a learning experience for him as well. For Rickey's part, he was never one to trumpet his role in re-integrating baseball. He would often say he would be ashamed to take any extra credit merely for signing a player of superior talent to play on his team. And remember that he didn't compensate the Kansas City Monarchs (Robinson's team in the Negro League) one penny. Even so, Rickey's interest in the plight of black players stemmed from an incident in 1907 or 1908 when Rickey was the coach of the Ohio Wesleyan baseball team and one of his players, a black catcher who Rickey described as a fine young man, was not allowed to register at the hotel in South Bend (IN) when their team was in town to play Notre Dame. He saw first hand just how hurt this young man was, and justifiably so.
@@Walterwhiterocks The Walker Brothers (Moses and Welday) played in the major leagues in 1884. There were also about two dozen black players who played on integrated teams in the minor leagues in the late 19th century. Some of those players also played for all black teams that competed against all white teams in the minor leagues during the 19th century. Until Jackie Robinson's debut with the Montreal Royals in 1946, the last instance of blacks playing against whites in either the major or minor leagues occurred in 1898. This SABR article gives more details for those interested: research.sabr.org/journals/blacks-in-19th-c-baseball#:~:text=Blacks%20in%2019th%20Century%20Organized%20Baseball&text=Moses%20and%20Welday%20Walker%20played,Robinson%20did%20it%20in%201947.
@@loissimmons6558 Thanks but the "two dozen black players" who played on integrated teams in the minors in the late 19th century as well as other blacks playing in the MINORS are just that. Minor league players. They really aren't pertinent to the discussion of the advent of true integration of the majors of which Rickey and Robinson are rightfully credited. I was unaware of the Walker brothers, however, so in that case, if true, your use of the term "re-integrated" would be technically correct. Thanks for the additional input.
Dick Powell, husband of June Allyson who was mentioned during this episode, was one of the four producers of Four Star Television (along with Charles Boyer, Ida Lupino and David Niven), the company that brought "The Rifleman" to the small screen.
@@davidsanderson5918 There have been very few actors who were able to successfully change their roles and their images and reimagine themselves. Powell was one -- by the 1940s he was playing detectives and never sang professionally again. June Allyson also postured herself as no longer being a musical performer by this time even though she had appeared in many MGM musicals.
@@preppysocks209 John Payne, who also appeared on WML as a panelist ,was another who changed from a singer in musicals to tough guy and western roles . Mr. Powell really impressive with his becoming a producer with Four Star , a major player in TV production in the fifties and sixties .
There's an introductory clip to the Rifleman's premiere where Chuck shows David Niven how the rifle works. Why David Niven? he was one of the Four Stars.
I am excited to see this program, excellent for the time. So many tremendous artists and the majority already deceased. Here they are seen in all their splendor of their moment ... ufff
This is a neat story. Chuck Conners was a teammate of Jackie Robinson in the minor league in Montreal. Jackie was told not to fight back when provoked. When a pitcher threw at Jackie once and called him a few names, Chuck, who was on 1st base, blindsided the pitcher and beat the crap out of him. Must have hurt since Chuck was a big man. He played for the Boston Celtics too for a while.
That was a good episode.My mother was a big fan of June Allyson and mum wrote to her and mum did get a photo of June with her signature on it but I realise that her secretary would of been in charge .
Branch Rickey had a part in one of the most significant events in American history. That of course was the signing of Jackie Robinson to play baseball for the Dodgers.
Absolutely, and far less important, his proposed, but never off the ground and never inevitable as the sun rising, CONTINENTAL LEAGUE, spurred the MLB owners to expand for the first time since the 1890's, adding the NY METS, HOUSTON COLT.45'S(NOW ASTROS), WASHINGTON SENATORS(NOW TEXAS RANGERS OF DFW/ARLINGTON), AND L.A. ANGELS(NOW L.A. ANGELS OF ANAHEIM), and to shut off the CONT. LEAGUE from grabbing MINNEAPOLIS- ST. PAUL, THE OLD WASHINGTON SENATORS MOVED TO MINNY AND BECAME THE TWINS.. CHUCK knew him well. He re-signed Chuck after the 1942 DODGER front office with Rickey as president, released him, and the war came and Chuck who had signed with the NY YANKEES and like his Brooklyn days was down in the lower minors, quit to fight in WW2. But, before Rickey did that re-signing, Chuck came out of the war and played for the BOSTON CELTICS in hoops, in the forerunner of the NBA, the B.A.A.. After Boston released him, Chuck went back to the Dodgers, and bigger, and stronger than 1942, shot up thru their farm system, made the Dodgers, didn't do well, went back to the minors, got released, went and played for the CHICUBS, where again, he did not hit much, and was sent to the CUBS PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE team in L.A., where doing off hours jobs, was spotted by a casting director..and.. guess what came next for Kevin Joseph Aloysius "Chuck" Connors? Yep, he quit baseball. Still only one of 13 men ever to play two major league level sports. His performance in THE BIG COUNTRY was Oscar worthy. He had been acting for about five years at that point. I think he is the best ex-major league athlete to have performed as an actor. Yep..
@@jackkomisar458, thanks. I spelled it on the run without checking; I should have known better than to do that. I edited in the correct spelling after your notification on that, and the point on the rest of it remains the same credible one based on facts and knowledge which was not accrued on the run. Thanks again..Jack. I appreciate it.
I have to say, Rickey trying to get a new league started at age 78 is fairly impressive. (Along with everything else impressive about him. I hadn't known about the Continental League, is all.)
I always enjoy seeing the baseball stars as the mystery guests! I was interested to learn about the Continental League that Branch Rickey was involved with. Obviously, it never got underway!
me emociona ver este programa, excelente para la época. Tantos tremendos artistas y la mayoría ya fallecidos. Aquí se les ve en todo su esplendor de su momento...ufff
+RaulRodriguez Verdad! Los artistas fueron exelentes, inteligentes, y clase. De dondes eres, por favor? Tambien, perdona mi espanol ya que no es bueno. :)
Chuck Connors was a great athlete. He is one of the few men who played both baseball and basketball on a professional level. He played for the Cubs and Celtics.
@@robertsprouse9282 Oh yes, and he never played for Association football, or Rugby union football, or Twenty20 cricket, and he never played for Nippon Professional Baseball, or the Chinese Football Association Super League, and he never played for Kontinental Hockey League, or the Turkish Süper Lig, or for Liga Profesional de Fútbol, or for the Korea Baseball Organization League, and he certainly didn't play for Championnat de France de rugby à XV, or Saudi Professional League, or the Campeonato Nacional de Liga de Segunda División nor the Scottish Premiership...there were a lot of places he didn't play.
@@justplainbrad7713, yep, but he did play what we U.S. FOLKS call football. Sort of like Euros calling bathrooms water closets, we have our own terminology, too. Or, do you think that international folks are the only ones allowed to have their own terminology? And, don't give me that you came up with "football" first. The fact is that our game is called football because its the only one of the original two in North America, baseball is the other, to allow the ball to be played with the feet over here. The term distinguishes it from the others. Got it, genius?
The Continental League never took the field but it led directly to the MLB expansion in the early 1960's like: Houston Astros, NY Mets, Cal Angels, and the Minnesota Twins (Who were the old Wash Senators).
I was very surprised that Chuck Connors didn't recognize Branch Rickey's voice. I read a story years ago that when Chuck was a young ballplayer coming up in the Dodger organization, he and another young player decided to double team Rickey in the negotiations. (They were not allowed to bring in an agent or an attorney to help in the negotiations, pretty much true of most teams at that time.) They flipped a coin and the other player went first, very cautiously. Rickey started questioning him: _Do you go around with women?_ "A little." _Do you gamble?_ "A little." _Do you drink?_ "A little." _Do you smoke?_ "A little." With that last answer, Rickey hit the roof. The player didn't get anywhere close to the salary he wanted. After getting the scouting report, Chuck went in. At first, he answered all of Rickey's questions the same way. But when Rickey asked him if he smoked, Chuck jumped up, pounded his fist on the desk and yelled, "If I have to smoke to stay in this organization, I want to be traded!" Chuck got the salary he planned to ask for when he came in. He only saw action in one regular season game for the Dodgers, pinch hitting for Carl Furillo in the bottom of the 9th inning on 5/1/49 as the tying run at the plate. He hit into a double play to end the game. (It also happened to be the first win with the Phillies for future Dodger Russ Meyer, who had been acquired from the Cubs during the off season.) Connors would be traded to the Cubs with another first baseman, Dee Fondy, after the 1950 season. Both Connors and Fondy were given a shot to replace 35 year old Phil Cavarretta, a household name on the north side of Chicago since he was a 19 year old rookie in 1935. Neither Connors or Fondy showed much power that season (nor did Cavarretta during his fine career), but Fondy hit .271 while Connors hit .239. Fondy would be the Cubs regular first baseman and a capable performer from 1952 until he was traded to the Pirates early in the 1957 season. (That season, Fondy would become the last player to bat at Ebbets Field, fouling out.) Connors would end up being sent to the Pacific Coast League and never made it back to the majors. But the Cubs team in the PCL was located in Los Angeles. Hollywood spotted him and out of failure on the field, a star actor was born. Fondy had an unspectacular career as a scout and front office assistant in baseball after his playing career ended. Fate can take funny twists and turns.
Lois Simmons - I wonder if Connors might have recognized a particular inflection after hearing a few fuller replies to questions. But also voices do age and he was used to hearing Rickey's younger voice, I think.
Lois Simmons - Thank you for this interesting history. How life depends on these quirks of fate sometimes. And I like baseball and enjoy reading these historical stories. My home being Southern California I always am thrilled to see the Dodgers win.
@@philippapay4352 Connors came to the Dodgers organization in the late 1940's and he would have negotiated with Rickey as late as the spring of 1950. By that time, Rickey was 68 years old. I doubt his voice would have aged that much more.
No one could have foreseen that six stars who made a 1948 film together would become future WML MGs and two others future WML guest panelists (and a couple were both). It was MGM's "The Three Musketeers." Besides June Allyson, the other future MGs were Van Heflin, Vincent Price, Gene Kelly, Lana Turner, and Angela Lansbury. The future guest panelists were Keenan Wynn and Gig Young.
+ToddSF 94109 I think the real objective of the Continental League was to get MLB NL back in some form to NY. After NY committed a team in the CL, Bill Shea disbanded the CL, because the objective was met. Then the team (Mets) became part of the NL and the CL was abandoned. Crafty legal work of Bill Shea/Joan Payson
Mrs. Picard, born Dondero, was in fingerprinting as a family concern. Faurot was her parents' company; both of them were forensic experts. It was an enduring focus of hers throughout her life, but Mrs. Picard eventually/fairly soon after this went to study art in various venues (including Academy Julian in Paris and also Yale). She was a professor of um, something unspecified but anyway it was in the art department, at Marymount College, for 25 years. She died in 2010. Obit: www.legacy.com/obituaries/lohud/obituary.aspx?n=marilyn-louise-picard&pid=150057373
Some years after Mr Rickey integrated MLB by bringing up Jackie Robinson he was fired by the new Dodgers owner Walter O'Malley and went to work for the Pittsburgh Pirates. He knew the Dodgers organization was trying to hide Roberto Clemente by not exposing the Puerto Rican prospect's considerable talents in the Dodgers top farm team, the Montreal Royals, so he sent Clyde Sukeforth, who had scouted Robinson in the Negro League, to appraise Clemente. As a result Clemente was chosen by the Pirates thru the Rule 5 draft and Mr Rickey had his revenge. The rest is history. Saludos y Bendiciones desde San Juan PR !!!
June Allyson, a wholesome 1950s Eisenhower era icon wearing another one of her trademark Peter Pan collar dresses. She must have ordered them by the carload and stored them in a warehouse size closet? Just wondering...?
Hall of Famer Branch Rickey, legendary General Manager of the St.Louis Browns (who always lost), four World Series Championships (1926, 31, 34, and 1942) plus two more Pennants (1928, 1930) for the St. Louis Cardinals , Brooklyn Dodgers, and Pittsburgh Pirates. I would think that the fact that he was a General Manager for four different teams over the course of 40 years qualifies him as a Manager of a Baseball team whether General or not. He was also the field Manager of both the Browns and the Cardinals early in his career (1913 - 1925). The fact that he tried to organize a defunct league for most of his life was not his Line. His Line was that of a General Manager for over 40 years of his life, including the GM who signed Jackie Robinson for the Dodgers and Roberto Clemente for the Pirates.
In short Arlene's question about him being a manager deserved a Yes answer. It was the question that she first asked before asking if he were an owner. Dorothy then asked directly if he were a Manager. The answer should have been a qualified Yes.
But he was not a manager, general manager or owner at the time of this program. If they had asked "Are you or have you ever been ..." he would have needed to answer yes. Note that as soon as Chuck Connors answered Arlene's question as to "what else there is in baseball," she got the answer immediately.
I saw her in a movie called the Glenn Miller story with Jimmy Stewart it was really good movie and she played the wife of Glenn Miller and I know she was in a bunch of other films back in the 1940s in the 1950s I’m not Amini movies in 1960s or not she was a very very good Actress
ToddSF 94109 I never realized (about Chuck Connors' height); that really looks bizarre, his towering over the two women on either side as he stands behind his chair during the introductions! He looks to be big in other dimensions as well--look at the size of his hands as he rests them on the back of his chair standing next to Arlene 1:08. Maybe the fact that he's well proportioned (not gangling) is why I've never realized he was so tall. BTW, I've read that Dennis Weaver (6'2") was hired for Gunsmoke because he was tall enough to stand next to Arness, and I've suspected that Roger Ewing (6'4") was hired as deputy Thad Greenwood because of his height (and looks, 'cause Lord knows he couldn't act!). I've also seen it said that there was some concern about casting James Whitmore opposite Arness in the movie, "Them" because of the height difference. Obviously there can be technical problems associated with getting your actors into the same camera frame if the height difference is too much. Sorry to go off like this; I'm a BIG fan of B&W Gunsmoke...and of the movie "Them".
James Arness played the title role in the 1951 movie "The Thing [from Another World]", so cast because they wanted someone noticeably large to play the alien.
ToddSF 94109 Yes, a very disappointing movie to someone who had very much liked "Who Goes There", by Don A. Stuart (John W. Campbell), though Kenneth Tobey wasn't bad.
When Disney decided to make a mini-series about Davy Crockett they originally considered Arness for the role. They went to see one of his movies, and Walt Disney became enamored with another tall actor: Fess Parker, who was 6'6".
If Branch Rickey still had control over the Dodgers they probably would have stayed in Brooklyn . This program seems to aimed at Chuck Connors with both a former boss Richey . baseball and at current boss , Powell thought the then Mrs. Powell , June Allyson . TV show .
The "Continental League of Professional Baseball Clubs" was a third league intended to operate within the existing Major League Baseball organization. Founded in 1959, it planned on starting up the following year but was shut down once MLB agreed to an 8-team expansion.
I always thought that John should not ask the mystery guests or other blindfold cases if they "are familiar with the rules of the game", because when they answer "yes", the panel (usually) can discern whether the guest is male or female right off the bat.
I was very young when dorothy died. Given the circumstances of her death, I believe that her husband Richard kollmar should've done all he could to protect her!
Chuck on our screens for 30 minutes....& didn't gun down anyone. A record ? He was a pro baseball player for a spell before he became an actor, so he should have had a head-start with the first mystery guest., That Rickey character didn't seem too happy to be there...and I don't think he even tried to disguise his voice.
June Allyson was a fake in all ways. Don't be deceived by that apple pie face and smile of hers. She was as ruthless as they come as far as getting what she wanted. Poor Joan Blondell had no choice but to stand by as Allyson blatantly and without shame went after her husband Dick Powell...and eventually took him away from poor Joan Blondell and had him for herself.
@@jackanthony976 I don't think June is beautiful ,but being smart and manipulative helped her get what she wanted. It was just humorous the tone she used as a mystery guest, I wasn't admiring her at all.
@@jackanthony976 Blondell was also married to Mike Todd, who later married Elizabeth Taylor. In any event, according to anchors at TCM, Powell was not always faithful to Allyson.
@@preppysocks209 When Mike Todd's plane crashed, Joan Blondell reportedly said that she hoped he screamed in fear all the way down. No love lost there.
I wonder why John Daly didn't tell the blindfolded panel that he was going to have a conference. This time panel members asked, "What happened to her?" "Everybody gone?" This type of thing has happened before.
I've often wondered the same thing. When the panel can see him, he tells them he's going to have a conference. But when they're blindfolded, he says nothing. Quite odd.
Interesting (or perhaps not) that Arlene Francis chose Branch Rickey, over Ford Frick, the then-commissioner of major league baseball. The Continental League never played a game. It was established for the purpose of getting baseball to expand. This happened when the American League expanded by moving Washington to Minnesota, adding a new Washington team, and adding the California Angels. Shortly after the American League's announcement, the National League announced its own expansion, set for 1962, with the New York Mets and Houston Astros. Having accomplished their purpose, the owners of the Continental Baseball League folded it in 1960.
Though it would eventually happen, it would take quite some time for a couple of the cities mentioned, Denver and Toronto, to finally land MLB franchises.
just a year earlier new york city went from 3 professional baseball teams to 1. both the new york giants and the brooklyn dodgers moved to california for the 1958 season. this prompted the nyc mayor to get another team pronto and the continental league was hatched. major league baseball also went into action by offering 4 new expansion teams and mined proposed continental league sites for their expansion teams. this all but doomed the continental league after owners quickly jumped at the opportunity to join mlb.
The Continental League eventually collapsed but was instrumental with the help of Bill Shea in expanding the major leagues (most notably the New York Mets)
Well how tall is Chuck Connors. I think Bennett Cerf is over 6 feet tall and he kinda towers over Mr. Cerf. Wow! I had no idea he was was in that tall on the show.
I never heard of a third baseball league! The Continental League? I guess it never got off the ground. Mr. Rickey did sign Jackie Robinson to be the first black player in MLB.
This is a widely believed misconception. Moses Walker was the first black baseball player in the majors in 1884. He played one season. Then the owners at the time voted to exclude blacks, and the "gentleman's agreement" was impregnable when Kennesaw Mountain Landis became commissioner after the 1919 Black Sox scandal. With Branch Rickey's help, Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier soon after Landis left the job, but he was not actually the first black major leaguer.
@@washoe4827 Life can be complicated. Mr White played as a substitute in 1879 in one NL game. At a minimum he "passed" for being white and he was listed on census records as "white." Although he was mixed race, he appeared as white and faced no discrimination. It is not clear that the NL team for which he played that one game or anyone in the league actually realized he was not white. By contrast, Moses Walker and his brother identified as black, were clearly black in skin color, and faced serious racial prejudice. Whatever the case, the first black MLB player was not Jackie Robinson, as is commonly stated.
Dick Wilson He did and in this setting it was seemingly crude and condescending, at least by todays standards. Imagine if this show and that comment were on tv today.
@@danielfronc4304 He's headed for cancel city. What a sorry bunch of snowflakes the US has become! Can't anyone have an open and forgiving mind anymore?
Leave it to Chuck Connors to help out Arlene to figure out Branch Rickey. I remember he was a baseball player BRIEFLY for the Chicago Cubs! Fingerprint Expert: She stumped the panel. June Allyson was married to the head of 4-Star Productions, Dick Powell, producers of The Rifleman.
I have great respect for Branch Rickey but apparently he was wrong about the third league being "as inevitable as tomorrow". I just looked it up, the Continental League disbanded in 1960 without ever playing a game.
WHen Bennett Cerf heard the occupation of the fingerprint expert, he seemed extra-ordinarily detached (emotionally) and unconcerned...far, far from his usual jovial self!
Indirectly, yes. While Branch Rickey was serving as President of the proposed league, it was the brainchild of William A. Shea who founded the league. Shea, for whom Shea Stadium was named, had been named by NYC Mayor Wagner to head a committee to bring another major league team to NYC when the Dodgers and Giants left for the west coast. The first attempt was to induce an existing National League team to move there, but the Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates and Cincinnati Reds all said no. Shea then turned his attention to the formation of a new league and he persuaded Rickey to come out of retirement (having left the Pirates front office) to run it. The threat of a new league forced the existing Major League owners to consider expansion for the first time in the 20th century. The original Washington Senators team moved to Minnesota to preempt the team that was going to play there in the Continental League. (Then the American League added an expansion team, the new Washington Senators.) The National League then announced that it was going to place a team in Houston. Another leg was cut out from the new league. Then the NL offered a National League franchise to the principal owners of the proposed Continental League team in NYC (headed by Joan Whitney Payson). When they accepted, that killed the Continental League without it ever playing a game. Bill Shea having achieved his original purpose of breaking a National League team to NYC left the Continental League behind. The final franchise in this first phase of expansion in the 20th century was awarded to Los Angeles, bringing the AL to the West Coast for the first time. It was not one of the cities that was to be part of the Continental League. Of the other cities that were granted franchises in the proposed league, Denver would not enter the major leagues until 1993 with an expansion team, Toronto in 1977 with an expansion team, and of the cities added after this WML episode, Atlanta in 1966 when the Braves moved there. Dallas-Ft. Worth in 1972 when the second Washington Senators team moved there and became the Texas Rangers and Buffalo, which has not had a major league baseball franchise since 1915 if one considers the Federal League to be a major league (Retrosheet does) or 1885 with the Buffalo Bisons of the National League if one doesn't consider the Federal League to be major league. Buffalo was in the running for expansion in 1969 but lost out to Montreal and again in the early 1990's with their new state of the art downtown stadium, but lost out to Denver and Miami.
Enjoy watching Dorothy Kilgallen's vanity every time she removes her mask. Pity she got too close to the Kennedy truth. What a class act John Daly was.
Chuck Endweiss A rather indelicate way of putting it. You mean she died in tragic and extremely ominous circumstances with some simliarity to the Marilyn Monroe's cause of death. Yes.
It's refreshing to see older, deaf people on the program (Branch Rickey), but also must have been a bit frustrating for the panelists and for John Daly.
thomas thompson Oh I've seen a VERY frustrating one. An elderly gentleman with a long white beard. He couldn't hear a thing and just kept saying NO to every question prompting Daly to overrule throughout. Then he took ages getting off the stage....and as for signing in, interminable. Drove me nuts!!
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Very enjoyable having Chuck Connors on the panel. Hope he has many more appearances.
He did 2 appearances.
He did another appearance as a panelist in 1960. Special guest was Red Skelton.
Ahhh, the good old days of TV. Notice, the show lasts 26 minutes. That means that out of a half hour program, only 4 minutes were commercials. There were two minutes every 13 mins. And there were no lawyers or doctors (they werent allowed to advertise on TV). Now you get 4 mins. of ads every 5 mins. of program and they sell more drugs and cars than anything else. TV sure has come way down as a medium of entertaiment, including in the decency and intelligence areas. I miss the true golden age of TV : the 50s and 60s, especially the early 60s.
Totally with you, especially about the early 60s.
They don’t need to have as many commercials since we stare at the brand name of the sponsor for the whole show. It says it on on the panelists desk, on the chalkboard, and a picture of the product is on the cards John flips. I don’t imagine you’re saying you’d prefer the product name or item be visible throughout every show.
This was actually cut down to air on modern TV, gameshow network I believe, so there were actually even less commercials in the 30 minutes, I read somewhere that at least for a while they only had 1 or 2 minute spots for commercials.
@@KristopherBel Correct. As I recall, in this time frame (late 1950's) in prime time there was typically 1 minute of advertising at beginning of a half-hour show, one minute in the middle, and generally one minute at the end which segued into the following program.
Chuck Connors seemed like a great man. My mother was a nurse, and chuck was one of her patients once. She was from the same place as Chuck's parents (Newfoundland). She said he was a great guy, and he seems it. The interaction between him and Branch Rickey seemed so genuine and warm
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And he was a pretty good panelist too!
He was delightful on this show and showed he had a good sense of humor.
Chuck grew up as Kevin Connors in Brooklyn. He got the nickname "Chuck" because when he played baseball in college at Seton Hall in NJersey, he would chatter to the pitcher to "chuck it over to first base, baby." or would tell his pitcher to "Chuck it in there(strikezone)." Fans in the stands loved it and started calling him 'Chuck'.
He hated Kevin, so he adopted it.
my brother and me had his rifle in 1959
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He was from the Flatbush section of Brooklyn. Parkside Avenue, near Bedford Avenue, from what I recall.
I enjoyed the "conference" Arlene had with Chuck Connors, asking him what other types of people might be considered with respect to baseball, and as soon as Mr. Connors said, "We could talk about the people who control the leagues and run them, like the league presidents and the Commissioner of Baseball," which immediately inspired Miss Francis to shout out, "Oh! Is it Branch Rickey?" That was a very nice little collaberation between the two of them, and very effective!
+ToddSF 94109 By watching these I can tell that Arlene is quite knowledgeable about baseball. Ask anybody, male or female, today who the baseball commissioner is.
+Dick Wilson -- True. I think Arlene was one of those people who thoroughly read the paper and took note of people and situations. Branch Rickey definitely was in the newspapers when it came to his attempt to establish a third major league in baseball. But you're right, I don't know who the baseball commissioner is. Then again, I have little interest in baseball today.
But contrary to the rules of the game.
No. It was the audience's applause that led Arlene to shout it out.
@@sagarsaxena6318 If you replay about 9:05, the audience did not applaud until after Arlene guessed that it was Branch Rickey because the new league he led had recently been begun, so it was likely he would be on after all the publicity.
haha love Branch Rickey's dig at the Dodgers...."The Pirates beat them today"....Mr. Rickey was unceremoniously kicked out of the Dodger organization by new owner Walter O' Malley years earlier...he then went on to become the General Manager of the Pirates, but will always best be remembered for integrating major league baseball and indirectly bringing another major league baseball team to New York (the Mets)....thanks for all your significant contributions to the game of baseball Mr. Rickey
+Will Drucker Absolutely right Will. Though Jackie Robinson gets the credit as the man that integrated baseball, the man that really took the risk was Branch Rickey.
Jack and Rachel Robinson always considered it a partnership between Robinson and Rickey. One of the things they appreciated was that Rickey never acted paternalistic towards Robinson and admitted that it was a learning experience for him as well.
For Rickey's part, he was never one to trumpet his role in re-integrating baseball. He would often say he would be ashamed to take any extra credit merely for signing a player of superior talent to play on his team. And remember that he didn't compensate the Kansas City Monarchs (Robinson's team in the Negro League) one penny.
Even so, Rickey's interest in the plight of black players stemmed from an incident in 1907 or 1908 when Rickey was the coach of the Ohio Wesleyan baseball team and one of his players, a black catcher who Rickey described as a fine young man, was not allowed to register at the hotel in South Bend (IN) when their team was in town to play Notre Dame. He saw first hand just how hurt this young man was, and justifiably so.
@@loissimmons6558 "re-integrating ?" I didn't realize it was integrated before !
@@Walterwhiterocks The Walker Brothers (Moses and Welday) played in the major leagues in 1884. There were also about two dozen black players who played on integrated teams in the minor leagues in the late 19th century. Some of those players also played for all black teams that competed against all white teams in the minor leagues during the 19th century.
Until Jackie Robinson's debut with the Montreal Royals in 1946, the last instance of blacks playing against whites in either the major or minor leagues occurred in 1898.
This SABR article gives more details for those interested:
research.sabr.org/journals/blacks-in-19th-c-baseball#:~:text=Blacks%20in%2019th%20Century%20Organized%20Baseball&text=Moses%20and%20Welday%20Walker%20played,Robinson%20did%20it%20in%201947.
@@loissimmons6558 Thanks but the "two dozen black players" who played on integrated teams in the minors in the late 19th century as well as other blacks playing in the MINORS are just that. Minor league players. They really aren't pertinent to the discussion of the advent of true integration of the majors of which Rickey and Robinson are rightfully credited. I was unaware of the Walker brothers, however, so in that case, if true, your use of the term "re-integrated" would be technically correct. Thanks for the additional input.
Arlene WHAT A WOMAN!
ANALYTICAL, humorous, decorous, well spoken and EASY ON THE EYES !
WoW !
I'll see your Arlene Francis and raise you a Dorothy Kilgallen. She had the most beautiful eyes.
Dick Powell, husband of June Allyson who was mentioned during this episode, was one of the four producers of Four Star Television (along with Charles Boyer, Ida Lupino and David Niven), the company that brought "The Rifleman" to the small screen.
Lois Simmons To me he's the leading man singing in several Busby Berkeley movies (of which I have all on DVD!).
@@davidsanderson5918 There have been very few actors who were able to successfully change their roles and their images and reimagine themselves. Powell was one -- by the 1940s he was playing detectives and never sang professionally again. June Allyson also postured herself as no longer being a musical performer by this time even though she had appeared in many MGM musicals.
@@preppysocks209 John Payne, who also appeared on WML as a panelist ,was another who changed from a singer in musicals to tough guy and western roles . Mr. Powell really impressive with his becoming a producer with Four Star , a major player in TV production in the fifties and sixties .
There's an introductory clip to the Rifleman's premiere where Chuck shows David Niven how the rifle works. Why David Niven? he was one of the Four Stars.
@@preppysocks209 I
I am excited to see this program, excellent for the time. So many tremendous artists and the majority already deceased. Here they are seen in all their splendor of their moment ... ufff
This is a neat story. Chuck Conners was a teammate of Jackie Robinson in the minor league in Montreal. Jackie was told not to fight back when provoked. When a pitcher threw at Jackie once and called him a few names, Chuck, who was on 1st base, blindsided the pitcher and beat the crap out of him. Must have hurt since Chuck was a big man. He played for the Boston Celtics too for a while.
That's a "neat" story?
Did Chuck like him at all?
No excuse for fighting. Pitcher should have been thrown out and fined. But striking another ballplayer is unnaceptable
@@johnsanborn2950 To me, it sure is.
I applaud him for defending Jackie Robinson. Considering the year and the terrible things that probably happened to him.
Loved Bennett's reaction when he first heard June Allyson's deep voice disguise
Chuck connors was fab onbthe panel....too bad he wasnt on more often
Agreed
He is a favorite on WML and on his show. A true gentleman!🌞
He was brilliant on the game show Password (with Eve Arden) which used to be on TH-cam!
@@randysills4418 I loved that! Why'd they take it out?
I did not expect Chuck Connors to be so damned charming!
Neither did I expect him to be so charming. I never found him all that attractive as an actor in either movies or TV.
Loved watching him in my youth. Now I love watching him even more 😍
Branch Rickey was 77 years old at the time of this broadcast.
John Daly and June Allyson had a lot of fun together in this episode; good to see the hearty laughs. :D
That was a good episode.My mother was a big fan of June Allyson and mum wrote to her and mum did get a photo of June with her signature on it but I realise that her secretary would of been in charge .
I really love Bennett cerf smile.
I enjoyed watching Chuck Connors here.
Branch Rickey had a part in one of the most significant events in American history. That of course was the signing of Jackie Robinson to play baseball for the Dodgers.
Absolutely, and far less important, his proposed, but never off the ground and never inevitable as the sun rising, CONTINENTAL LEAGUE, spurred the MLB owners to expand for the first time since the 1890's, adding the NY METS, HOUSTON COLT.45'S(NOW ASTROS), WASHINGTON SENATORS(NOW TEXAS RANGERS OF DFW/ARLINGTON), AND L.A. ANGELS(NOW L.A. ANGELS OF ANAHEIM), and to shut off the CONT. LEAGUE from grabbing MINNEAPOLIS- ST. PAUL, THE OLD WASHINGTON SENATORS MOVED TO MINNY AND BECAME THE TWINS..
CHUCK knew him well. He re-signed Chuck after the 1942 DODGER front office with Rickey as president, released him, and the war came and Chuck who had signed with the NY YANKEES and like his Brooklyn days was down in the lower minors, quit to fight in WW2. But, before Rickey did that re-signing, Chuck came out of the war and played for the BOSTON CELTICS in hoops, in the forerunner of the NBA, the B.A.A.. After Boston released him, Chuck went back to the Dodgers, and bigger, and stronger than 1942, shot up thru their farm system, made the Dodgers, didn't do well, went back to the minors, got released, went and played for the CHICUBS, where again, he did not hit much, and was sent to the CUBS PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE team in L.A., where doing off hours jobs, was spotted by a casting director..and..
guess what came next for Kevin Joseph Aloysius "Chuck" Connors?
Yep, he quit baseball.
Still only one of 13 men ever to play two major league level sports.
His performance in THE BIG COUNTRY was Oscar worthy. He had been acting for about five years at that point. I think he is the best ex-major league athlete to have performed as an actor.
Yep..
@@robertsprouse9282 Thanks for that information. A pretty roundabout way to become the Rifleman. But that is how life works,
@@robertsprouse9282 Aloysius
@@jackkomisar458, thanks. I spelled it on the run without checking; I should have known better than to do that.
I edited in the correct spelling after your notification on that, and the point on the rest of it remains the same credible one based on facts and knowledge which was not accrued on the run.
Thanks again..Jack.
I appreciate it.
And I'm surprised that John did not mention it after Mr. Rickey was identified by Arlene.
It's fun to look back & see how life was back then.
Namely better
I have to say, Rickey trying to get a new league started at age 78 is fairly impressive. (Along with everything else impressive about him. I hadn't known about the Continental League, is all.)
June was not only so beautiful, but so talented as well.
I love June Allison it was such a pleasure to see her again
That was sweet how that baseball president put his hand on Chuck Connors’ shoulder.
Branch Rickey. A Great Baseball mind. Way head of his time.
I remember the Rifleman and Johnny Crawford but I have had a crush on June Allyson since I was knee high to a grasshopper!
Arlene's hair is beautiful. The shade is really gorgeous.
Mr. Rickey was a class act and obviously a kind man
I always enjoy seeing the baseball stars as the mystery guests! I was interested to learn about the Continental League that Branch Rickey was involved with. Obviously, it never got underway!
It provoked the major leagues to expand. it was Rickey's third sea change to baseball: farm systems, integration and expansion.
June Allyson did a great Tallulah Bankhead impersonation.
me emociona ver este programa, excelente para la época. Tantos tremendos artistas y la mayoría ya fallecidos. Aquí se les ve en todo su esplendor de su momento...ufff
+RaulRodriguez Verdad! Los artistas fueron exelentes, inteligentes, y clase. De dondes eres, por favor? Tambien, perdona mi espanol ya que no es bueno. :)
Chuck Connors was a great athlete. He is one of the few men who played both baseball and basketball on a professional level. He played for the Cubs and Celtics.
Not just pro level..MAJOR LEAGUE PRO LEVEL..
Also Football
@@sandrageorge3488, in high school, yes. He never played college or pro, or even minor league, Canadian, or semi pro football.
@@robertsprouse9282 Oh yes, and he never played for Association football, or
Rugby union football, or Twenty20 cricket, and he never played for Nippon Professional Baseball, or the Chinese Football Association Super League, and he never played for Kontinental Hockey League, or the Turkish Süper Lig, or for Liga Profesional de Fútbol, or for the Korea Baseball Organization League, and he certainly didn't play for Championnat de France de rugby à XV, or Saudi Professional League, or the
Campeonato Nacional de Liga de Segunda División
nor the Scottish Premiership...there were a lot of places he didn't play.
@@justplainbrad7713, yep, but he did play what we U.S. FOLKS call football.
Sort of like Euros calling bathrooms water closets, we have our own terminology, too.
Or, do you think that international folks are the only ones allowed to have their own terminology?
And, don't give me that you came up with "football" first.
The fact is that our game is called football because its the only one of the original two in North America, baseball is the other, to allow the ball to be played with the feet over here.
The term distinguishes it from the others.
Got it, genius?
The Continental League never took the field but it led directly to the MLB expansion in the early 1960's like: Houston Astros, NY Mets, Cal Angels, and the Minnesota Twins (Who were the old Wash Senators).
willminkorea2010 The Houston team started life as The Colt 45's.
I was very surprised that Chuck Connors didn't recognize Branch Rickey's voice. I read a story years ago that when Chuck was a young ballplayer coming up in the Dodger organization, he and another young player decided to double team Rickey in the negotiations. (They were not allowed to bring in an agent or an attorney to help in the negotiations, pretty much true of most teams at that time.)
They flipped a coin and the other player went first, very cautiously. Rickey started questioning him: _Do you go around with women?_ "A little." _Do you gamble?_ "A little." _Do you drink?_ "A little." _Do you smoke?_ "A little." With that last answer, Rickey hit the roof. The player didn't get anywhere close to the salary he wanted.
After getting the scouting report, Chuck went in. At first, he answered all of Rickey's questions the same way. But when Rickey asked him if he smoked, Chuck jumped up, pounded his fist on the desk and yelled, "If I have to smoke to stay in this organization, I want to be traded!"
Chuck got the salary he planned to ask for when he came in.
He only saw action in one regular season game for the Dodgers, pinch hitting for Carl Furillo in the bottom of the 9th inning on 5/1/49 as the tying run at the plate. He hit into a double play to end the game. (It also happened to be the first win with the Phillies for future Dodger Russ Meyer, who had been acquired from the Cubs during the off season.)
Connors would be traded to the Cubs with another first baseman, Dee Fondy, after the 1950 season. Both Connors and Fondy were given a shot to replace 35 year old Phil Cavarretta, a household name on the north side of Chicago since he was a 19 year old rookie in 1935. Neither Connors or Fondy showed much power that season (nor did Cavarretta during his fine career), but Fondy hit .271 while Connors hit .239.
Fondy would be the Cubs regular first baseman and a capable performer from 1952 until he was traded to the Pirates early in the 1957 season. (That season, Fondy would become the last player to bat at Ebbets Field, fouling out.) Connors would end up being sent to the Pacific Coast League and never made it back to the majors. But the Cubs team in the PCL was located in Los Angeles. Hollywood spotted him and out of failure on the field, a star actor was born.
Fondy had an unspectacular career as a scout and front office assistant in baseball after his playing career ended. Fate can take funny twists and turns.
Lois Simmons It was The Cubs
Lois Simmons - I wonder if Connors might have recognized a particular inflection after hearing a few fuller replies to questions. But also voices do age and he was used to hearing Rickey's younger voice, I think.
Lois Simmons - Thank you for this interesting history. How life depends on these quirks of fate sometimes. And I like baseball and enjoy reading these historical stories. My home being Southern California I always am thrilled to see the Dodgers win.
@@philippapay4352 Connors came to the Dodgers organization in the late 1940's and he would have negotiated with Rickey as late as the spring of 1950. By that time, Rickey was 68 years old. I doubt his voice would have aged that much more.
Wow!! That's a lot of detailed history on Chuck Connors' career!!
Mr rickey is so cute he is so proud of chuck conners
Chuck played pro baseball and a US Marines sniper. Semper Fi
Not just pro baseball, MAJOR LEAGUE PRO BASEBALL..
No one could have foreseen that six stars who made a 1948 film together would become future WML MGs and two others future WML guest panelists (and a couple were both). It was MGM's "The Three Musketeers." Besides June Allyson, the other future MGs were Van Heflin, Vincent Price, Gene Kelly, Lana Turner, and Angela Lansbury. The future guest panelists were Keenan Wynn and Gig Young.
So nice to see REAL movie stars.
I was a youngster when this episode, and many others like it, was on. Almost 6.
The Continental Baseball League was pretty much a "flash in the pan". It lasted just over a year and was dissolved.
+ToddSF 94109 I think the real objective of the Continental League was to get MLB NL back in some form to NY. After NY committed a team in the CL, Bill Shea disbanded the CL, because the objective was met. Then the team (Mets) became part of the NL and the CL was abandoned. Crafty legal work of Bill Shea/Joan Payson
True but most of it's teams are alive and well today.
I turned twelve years old the day this episode aired.
Mr. Rickey got Jackie Robinson in Major League Baseball.
Tim Pertler
Who hasn't heard or read that at least a million times.
Chuck Conners too, as he mentioned. Rickey was instrumental in signing him.
He was played by Harrison Ford in the movie about Jackie Robinson, "24."
@@lorihansen8674 not 24 -- 42!
@@t4texastomjohnnycat978Why isn't it WORTH repeating _about a million times_ ?
My 2 favorite actors loved them a boy
Good for you Marylyn....fingerprint expect .....and lives in White Plains....
Where I was born and lived for five years.....👏👏👏👏❤️
I'm a huge Cardinals fan. Branch Rickey was the one who came up with the logo of the birds on the bat.
And recruited Dizzy Dean
For years and years I thought it was 2 birds on a seesaw.i was in my 30s when someone had to explain it to me.
That third league never played a game, however, Major League Baseball agreed to add eight more teams.
Mrs. Picard, born Dondero, was in fingerprinting as a family concern. Faurot was her parents' company; both of them were forensic experts. It was an enduring focus of hers throughout her life, but Mrs. Picard eventually/fairly soon after this went to study art in various venues (including Academy Julian in Paris and also Yale). She was a professor of um, something unspecified but anyway it was in the art department, at Marymount College, for 25 years. She died in 2010.
Obit: www.legacy.com/obituaries/lohud/obituary.aspx?n=marilyn-louise-picard&pid=150057373
Some years after Mr Rickey integrated MLB by bringing up Jackie Robinson he was fired by the new Dodgers owner Walter O'Malley and went to work for the Pittsburgh Pirates. He knew the Dodgers organization was trying to hide Roberto Clemente by not exposing the Puerto Rican prospect's considerable talents in the Dodgers top farm team, the Montreal Royals, so he sent Clyde Sukeforth, who had scouted Robinson in the Negro League, to appraise Clemente. As a result Clemente was chosen by the Pirates thru the Rule 5 draft and Mr Rickey had his revenge. The rest is history.
Saludos y Bendiciones desde San Juan PR !!!
An "edifice complex!" Watch out for those puns.
June Allyson, a wholesome 1950s Eisenhower era icon wearing another one of her trademark Peter Pan collar dresses. She must have ordered them by the carload and stored them in a warehouse size closet? Just wondering...?
Chuck Connors and june allyson wow
*_President of New Continental Baseball Team_*
*_Fingerprint Expert_*
Hall of Famer Branch Rickey, legendary General Manager of the St.Louis Browns (who always lost), four World Series Championships (1926, 31, 34, and 1942) plus two more Pennants (1928, 1930) for the St. Louis Cardinals , Brooklyn Dodgers, and Pittsburgh Pirates. I would think that the fact that he was a General Manager for four different teams over the course of 40 years qualifies him as a Manager of a Baseball team whether General or not. He was also the field Manager of both the Browns and the Cardinals early in his career (1913 - 1925). The fact that he tried to organize a defunct league for most of his life was not his Line. His Line was that of a General Manager for over 40 years of his life, including the GM who signed Jackie Robinson for the Dodgers and Roberto Clemente for the Pirates.
In short Arlene's question about him being a manager deserved a Yes answer. It was the question that she first asked before asking if he were an owner. Dorothy then asked directly if he were a Manager. The answer should have been a qualified Yes.
But he was not a manager, general manager or owner at the time of this program. If they had asked "Are you or have you ever been ..." he would have needed to answer yes. Note that as soon as Chuck Connors answered Arlene's question as to "what else there is in baseball," she got the answer immediately.
I saw her in a movie called the Glenn Miller story with Jimmy Stewart it was really good movie and she played the wife of Glenn Miller and I know she was in a bunch of other films back in the 1940s in the 1950s I’m not Amini movies in 1960s or not she was a very very good Actress
Philip Howard The Glenn Miller Story is a massively popular movie of course. Surely June's most famous role.
There's no getting around the fact that Chuck Connors was *tall*. 6'6" tall, in fact. James Arness was an inch taller, I note, at 6'7".
ToddSF 94109 I never realized (about Chuck Connors' height); that really looks bizarre, his towering over the two women on either side as he stands behind his chair during the introductions! He looks to be big in other dimensions as well--look at the size of his hands as he rests them on the back of his chair standing next to Arlene 1:08. Maybe the fact that he's well proportioned (not gangling) is why I've never realized he was so tall. BTW, I've read that Dennis Weaver (6'2") was hired for Gunsmoke because he was tall enough to stand next to Arness, and I've suspected that Roger Ewing (6'4") was hired as deputy Thad Greenwood because of his height (and looks, 'cause Lord knows he couldn't act!). I've also seen it said that there was some concern about casting James Whitmore opposite Arness in the movie, "Them" because of the height difference. Obviously there can be technical problems associated with getting your actors into the same camera frame if the height difference is too much. Sorry to go off like this; I'm a BIG fan of B&W Gunsmoke...and of the movie "Them".
James Arness played the title role in the 1951 movie "The Thing [from Another World]", so cast because they wanted someone noticeably large to play the alien.
ToddSF 94109 Yes, a very disappointing movie to someone who had very much liked "Who Goes There", by Don A. Stuart (John W. Campbell), though Kenneth Tobey wasn't bad.
When Disney decided to make a mini-series about Davy Crockett they originally considered Arness for the role. They went to see one of his movies, and Walt Disney became enamored with another tall actor: Fess Parker, who was 6'6".
@@nancypine9952 I was enamored of Fess Parker when I was about 13. :D
It's pleasantly odd to see on screen Chuck Conners man of few words smiling and carrying on..
If Branch Rickey still had control over the Dodgers they probably would have stayed in Brooklyn . This program seems to aimed at Chuck Connors with both a former boss Richey . baseball and at current boss , Powell thought the then Mrs. Powell , June Allyson . TV show .
Branch was 77 when this was aired.
You have too remember all these movie stars had been let go by their studios. For most their movie career was over.
agree to disagree. Many stars were still very active in their careers and had current movies shown
"You touch them below their neck and above their waist?" LOL
Funny to see Chuck Connors next to June Allyson.
Branch..twiggy...limb...root...leaves...where will it ever stop.
The "Continental League of Professional Baseball Clubs" was a third league intended to operate within the existing Major League Baseball organization. Founded in 1959, it planned on starting up the following year but was shut down once MLB agreed to an 8-team expansion.
I love how the first question for every woman is ‘are you married?’
"Edifice Complex" ... Thank you John Charles Daly!!!
Sounded to me like he said Oedipus complex…Bennett looked a bit appalled, embarrassed…which doesn’t make sense if Daly said Edifice complex.
I always thought that John should not ask the mystery guests or other blindfold cases if they "are familiar with the rules of the game", because when they answer "yes", the panel (usually) can discern whether the guest is male or female right off the bat.
Dickie Wilson -Hmm...good point.
Chuck Connors was a good panelist. Did he appear more than once?
One more time a year later:
th-cam.com/video/l42nifn0Nrg/w-d-xo.html
I was very young when dorothy died. Given the circumstances of her death, I believe that her husband Richard kollmar should've done all he could to protect her!
He cared very little for her, and they lived separate lives.
notice all the men have bow ties
Chuck on our screens for 30 minutes....& didn't gun down anyone. A record ? He was a pro baseball player for a spell before he became an actor, so he should have had a head-start with the first mystery guest.,
That Rickey character didn't seem too happy to be there...and I don't think he even tried to disguise his voice.
June Allyson's fake voice was funny.
June Allyson was a fake in all ways. Don't be deceived by that apple pie face and smile of hers. She was as ruthless as they come as far as getting what she wanted. Poor Joan Blondell had no choice but to stand by as Allyson blatantly and without shame went after her husband Dick Powell...and eventually took him away from poor Joan Blondell and had him for herself.
@@jackanthony976 I don't think June is beautiful ,but being smart and manipulative helped her get what she wanted. It was just humorous the tone she used as a mystery guest, I wasn't admiring her at all.
@@jackanthony976 Blondell was also married to Mike Todd, who later married Elizabeth Taylor. In any event, according to anchors at TCM, Powell was not always faithful to Allyson.
@@preppysocks209 When Mike Todd's plane crashed, Joan Blondell reportedly said that she hoped he screamed in fear all the way down. No love lost there.
She talked like Ms Prissy, who says "yes" like that.
It's sad that the Continental League of baseball never was to be, despite all the work to form it.
I wonder why John Daly didn't tell the blindfolded panel that he was going to have a conference. This time panel members asked, "What happened to her?" "Everybody gone?" This type of thing has happened before.
I've often wondered the same thing. When the panel can see him, he tells them he's going to have a conference. But when they're blindfolded, he says nothing. Quite odd.
Interesting (or perhaps not) that Arlene Francis chose Branch Rickey, over Ford Frick, the then-commissioner of major league baseball.
The Continental League never played a game. It was established for the purpose of getting baseball to expand. This happened when the American League expanded by moving Washington to Minnesota, adding a new Washington team, and adding the California Angels. Shortly after the American League's announcement, the National League announced its own expansion, set for 1962, with the New York Mets and Houston Astros. Having accomplished their purpose, the owners of the Continental Baseball League folded it in 1960.
Though it would eventually happen, it would take quite some time for a couple of the cities mentioned, Denver and Toronto, to finally land MLB franchises.
Chuck was the man.
just a year earlier new york city went from 3 professional baseball teams to 1. both the new york giants and the brooklyn dodgers moved to california for the 1958 season. this prompted the nyc mayor to get another team pronto and the continental league was hatched. major league baseball also went into action by offering 4 new expansion teams and mined proposed continental league sites for their expansion teams. this all but doomed the continental league after owners quickly jumped at the opportunity to join mlb.
Is your "shift" key not working ?
@@Walterwhiterocks i only have 4 fingers on each hand.
@@tomitstube Nice try. Not quite an LOL, but you made me smile.
Respect for you replying four years later
Wow. Branch Rickey. Great man. Cool antiracist lesson preach scene - Harrison Ford in the "42" movie
The Continental League eventually collapsed but was instrumental with the help of Bill Shea in expanding the major leagues (most notably the New York Mets)
Well how tall is Chuck Connors. I think Bennett Cerf is over 6 feet tall and he kinda towers over Mr. Cerf. Wow! I had no idea he was was in that tall on the show.
I never heard of a third baseball league! The Continental League? I guess it never got off the ground. Mr. Rickey did sign Jackie Robinson to be the first black player in MLB.
This is a widely believed misconception. Moses Walker was the first black baseball player in the majors in 1884. He played one season. Then the owners at the time voted to exclude blacks, and the "gentleman's agreement" was impregnable when Kennesaw Mountain Landis became commissioner after the 1919 Black Sox scandal. With Branch Rickey's help, Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier soon after Landis left the job, but he was not actually the first black major leaguer.
@@preppysocks209 what about william white ?
@@washoe4827 Life can be complicated. Mr White played as a substitute in 1879 in one NL game. At a minimum he "passed" for being white and he was listed on census records as "white." Although he was mixed race, he appeared as white and faced no discrimination. It is not clear that the NL team for which he played that one game or anyone in the league actually realized he was not white. By contrast, Moses Walker and his brother identified as black, were clearly black in skin color, and faced serious racial prejudice. Whatever the case, the first black MLB player was not Jackie Robinson, as is commonly stated.
Ty
Did Chuck Connors really call Mrs. Picard a "trained filly"?
Dick Wilson He did and in this setting it was seemingly crude and condescending, at least by todays standards. Imagine if this show and that comment were on tv today.
@@danielfronc4304 He's headed for cancel city. What a sorry bunch of snowflakes the US has become! Can't anyone have an open and forgiving mind anymore?
Leave it to Chuck Connors to help out Arlene to figure out Branch Rickey. I remember he was a baseball player BRIEFLY for the Chicago Cubs!
Fingerprint Expert: She stumped the panel.
June Allyson was married to the head of 4-Star Productions, Dick Powell, producers of The Rifleman.
Chuck Conners is soooooo handsome.
Chuck Connors was hilarious.
"Edifice complex" . . . very funny . . . . HAHAHAHAHA . . . . Chuck Connors; "I'd like to PASS . . . Hahahaha !
Which joke do you prefer though? Are you saying Chuck's is better?!?
@@davidsanderson5918 I don't remember this. I'll have to watch the show again.
Mr. Rickey sounds very much like Sidney Greenstreet.
11:26 Wonder what Bennett & Dorothy were saying.
Mrs Picard! Dun dadadun dadadunnnn!
An ancestor of Jean Luc
Good gravy, Harrison Ford looks just like Mr. Rickey.
Chuck Connors looks like twice the height of June Allyson!
I have great respect for Branch Rickey but apparently he was wrong about the third league being "as inevitable as tomorrow". I just looked it up, the Continental League disbanded in 1960 without ever playing a game.
Branch Rickey "The Great Mahatma".
When Mr. Rickey signed in, I'd have bet $1,000,000 who'd, correctly, guss him, if any panelist did. I'd have been correct.
June was memorable as the Depends lady.
WHen Bennett Cerf heard the occupation of the fingerprint expert, he seemed extra-ordinarily detached (emotionally) and unconcerned...far, far from his usual jovial self!
Silverstone L Nah just thoughtful. Going back over the deduction process.
Did the Houston Colt 45's, the Mets, and the Minnesota Twins emerge from this league as expansion teams?
Indirectly, yes. While Branch Rickey was serving as President of the proposed league, it was the brainchild of William A. Shea who founded the league. Shea, for whom Shea Stadium was named, had been named by NYC Mayor Wagner to head a committee to bring another major league team to NYC when the Dodgers and Giants left for the west coast. The first attempt was to induce an existing National League team to move there, but the Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates and Cincinnati Reds all said no. Shea then turned his attention to the formation of a new league and he persuaded Rickey to come out of retirement (having left the Pirates front office) to run it.
The threat of a new league forced the existing Major League owners to consider expansion for the first time in the 20th century. The original Washington Senators team moved to Minnesota to preempt the team that was going to play there in the Continental League. (Then the American League added an expansion team, the new Washington Senators.)
The National League then announced that it was going to place a team in Houston. Another leg was cut out from the new league. Then the NL offered a National League franchise to the principal owners of the proposed Continental League team in NYC (headed by Joan Whitney Payson). When they accepted, that killed the Continental League without it ever playing a game. Bill Shea having achieved his original purpose of breaking a National League team to NYC left the Continental League behind.
The final franchise in this first phase of expansion in the 20th century was awarded to Los Angeles, bringing the AL to the West Coast for the first time. It was not one of the cities that was to be part of the Continental League.
Of the other cities that were granted franchises in the proposed league, Denver would not enter the major leagues until 1993 with an expansion team, Toronto in 1977 with an expansion team, and of the cities added after this WML episode, Atlanta in 1966 when the Braves moved there. Dallas-Ft. Worth in 1972 when the second Washington Senators team moved there and became the Texas Rangers and Buffalo, which has not had a major league baseball franchise since 1915 if one considers the Federal League to be a major league (Retrosheet does) or 1885 with the Buffalo Bisons of the National League if one doesn't consider the Federal League to be major league. Buffalo was in the running for expansion in 1969 but lost out to Montreal and again in the early 1990's with their new state of the art downtown stadium, but lost out to Denver and Miami.
Enjoy watching Dorothy Kilgallen's vanity every time she removes her mask. Pity she got too close to the Kennedy truth. What a class act John Daly was.
Derek Hoggett So true, and the way she “dead” So much like M M
Chuck Endweiss A rather indelicate way of putting it. You mean she died in tragic and extremely ominous circumstances with some simliarity to the Marilyn Monroe's cause of death. Yes.
Only a pity. I've been informed in detail of how she was was found and it was a monstrously horrible and sinister circumstance. It's profoundly sad.
It's refreshing to see older, deaf people on the program (Branch Rickey), but also must have been a bit frustrating for the panelists and for John Daly.
thomas thompson Oh I've seen a VERY frustrating one. An elderly gentleman with a long white beard. He couldn't hear a thing and just kept saying NO to every question prompting Daly to overrule throughout. Then he took ages getting off the stage....and as for signing in, interminable. Drove me nuts!!
Nobody ever asked, "Is it June Allyson?" She did a wonderful Tallulah Bankhead impression that threw them off for a while.
The second team will be the Mets in NYC shortly!