I strongly believe that space marines look better with all the goofy heraldry, flame patterns, checkers on the power fist, KIL, any and all of it. It rules.
We put on two coats of gloss back in the day , because the paint chipped so easily off those metal mini's. Your mini only needs a bit of gloss for that perfect 90's look.
What might be an issue while glazing over the red is that the liquitex inks tend to reactivate when applying watered down paint over them, sealing them in with a varnish solves this issue
I have a whole Ultramarines Primaris army painting in 2nd editon style. Red gun casings, yellow trim, green base and back banners. Merry Christmas to you!
Beautifully done! Reminds me of my youth. I won awards painting lead minis back in the day, and was considered very good, but the paints were very different (we used enamel and oil paints!) and so were the surfaces (lead is nothing like plastic). I still have some of my old lead minis and my friends are amazed at what I managed to accomplish back then. I am quite proud of my young self, but I haven’t painted a miniature in over 30 years. You’ve made me want to try my hand at doing this again. Whilst I think I might be able replicate my old paint jobs now, I will have to relearn how to paint with modern media to duplicate what you’ve done since enamel paint doesn’t mix, flow, or cover like acrylic. But, then again, I’m remembering my glory days and I would probably be disappointed in my brush control. Thanks for making this video, you’ve brought back good memories.
Nice post, having tried enamel paints for a bit back in the stone age of youth, I can say acrylic is way easier to handle, especially on plastic and with the newer paints even easier. Try your hand, I believe you'll find it easier than you think.
Thank you for Painting a Primaris in the style of the 90’s color/style. Everytime I see a video/tutorial of someone painting in the 90’s style its always with an Older Model or I see photo of a primaris in the style but no tutorial. But this was very refreshing to see and I might try this Blood Angel next year. This model looks Absolutely Stunning!
I still remember seeing these guys in the store when I was a kid, so this hits the nostalgia HARD. A beautiful job highlighting just how timeless some of that old visual language was (is).
This has always been my favorite mini painting style. Volumetric painting is cool but I like how this type of mini looks good from any angle and any lighting condition you put it in.
Wow this looks fantastic. You managed to recapture the vibe of the 90s but with a more modern execution. I was skeptical at first because of the color scheme but it just pops. The result is just great.
As a 39yo blood angel aficionado that has not painted anything in the last 20 odd years... This made me feel right at home! You got a great result and, in my old guy's opinion, a beautiful model! You made me want to go buy some blood red and goblin green (sadly discontinued, I know)
I'm liking the retro vibe going around. I love the aesthetic John Blanche created for the setting, and I'm glad it is getting a revival. I think you did the box are justice with this mini.
Love that red. I always wanted that deep rich red that featured on the BA on some of the WD covers of the day, but GW leaned into that more orange shade after that.
My personal favourite bright yellow if you haven't tried it yet is bismuth yellow from pro acryl. It's almost painfully bright, coverage is poor but great for really pushing highlights.
That is an awesome paint scheme. I got into warhammer 40k during 2nd edition. Interestingly, the old citadel blood red was closer to an orange and next to impossible to highlight. My 10 year old self salutes you in replicating the box art red, thank you.
Yes we had airbrushes in the 90s, I had my first one in the 80s, we also used to use white basecoats a lot back then in 2nd edition, rogue trader was generally black basecoats, we used a lot of non GW products to get the right effects, most of it was from techniques from the old Airfix and Tamiya ww2 model painters passed down, for my 2nd edition Blood Angels I used a Burnt umber oil paint made into a wash to shade, and panel liner for the darkest shadows.
I really like this oldschool look. Even the green base. I would try to varnish the red ink. That should create a surface on wich the other colors should react as expected.
Bright and shiny power armor is fun. It's how I paint my Ultramarines, like they're in a comic book. Really pops. I save the grim dark for my Slaves to Darkness army.
I think the modern grimdark style is better than the ultra bright 90s version, but I can't deny that it has some appeal and you really did the style justice.
Nice job would love to see an army like that. Ahh the yellows back then were a pain in the behind. Bronzed flesh basecoat and sunburst yellow did the trick but if you had a large surface... Such a pain.
One of my favorite videos of yours. Would love to see this kill team. I gave up painting these back in the day because the paint was so bad. Started collecting in 88 and this takes me straight back. Good job
A way to reduce the time and increase the vibrancy of the yellow would be not using masking tape and applying a pink colour. I use Pro Acryl pale pink and it covers really well (it has probably some of their famous bold titanium white) and doesn't give a chalky finish if thinned properly. And why not recess shade with oils ? Does it reactivate the ink ?
Merry Christmas and happy holidays! This model is amazing! The flames, the gem and the eye lenses are really great! I always liked the classic 2nd edition Blood Angels painting scheme and I still stick to it. However, my models do not come up to the quality of the miniature you have painted :D
The mini looks great! The base might be a tad to deeply green (both for the retro look and for my poor eyes 😅), but the miniature realy evokes the right feel. And looks awsome
Great job. Have lots of nostalgia for that particular boxart and think you nailed your goal here. Particularly like the flames, those and checkered patterns scream classic 40K in my opinion. A complete Killteam in this style will look amazing.
I've noticed twice in your recent videos that you've had issues with staining once with oils on your imperial fist and once with inks with this blood angel. I think its due to your rattle can white primer adding a micro texture to your miniatures. I think its gripping the pigment as it drys.
I've never been a big fan of oldhammer, possibly due to me not even knowing about the hobby during those times. I started my first army when Primaris were well and truly established, and to me that aesthetic IS Warhammer. I do have to admit though, even though the red and yellow kinda scream "McMarine" to me, these are most certainly gonna pop on any table, and the scheme works far better than I would have initially thought.
Looks Great - Something about this style just pops with the cartoon like colors. Maybe a new series for you to experiment with - Paint some other chapters in the old 90's style. And yes, most of those old paints were horrible - and the pots needed some plier to get the lids off after using the colors after a couple of painting sessions.
Very cool looking, I'm wondering how well you could do the shadows but using either oils or enamels both for their longer working time and for the general reductive workflow? I'm also curious what would happen if you mixed some florescent inks into your highlight mixes either in addition to or instead of white, or even just glazed it on over the shadowed and highlighted surfaces?
I got into 40k just as 3rd was launching and Blood Angels was my first choice for an army. The paint was terrible, but I'd been into scale modeling since I was a kid and inherited a clunky old airbrush compressor and a very basic airbrush from my older brother when he upgraded. I would have gone crazy trying to paint that entire army with a brush.
Ohboy, how you breezed through the black trim on the shoulder pads. That gave me horrible flashbacks. Blood Red was not opaque enough to easily correct a mishap, back then.
Retrohammer > grimdark all day every day. I am so glad to see people adopting it especially in the Ultramarines groups because adding red back to that chapter makes it look that much more impressive on the table.
WOW this is the best ever I wanted to paint them too but scared to,, but now will do it now. Please do you think I "know only you can" do black templars like this with this method and paints? because most BTs come out grey BTs? Great representative of Johns art who I have met a few times and keep a gift that he gave me till this day. thank you.
the only models i own are nostalgia. i think my newest minis from citadel are the first edition LotR figs. One reason is the abundance of metal minis, and that is still a scary format! But amazing work, would love to see some more retro gone modern! Ps. the base looks amazing!
This remembers me painting grenades in blood red or goblin green, pistol holsters in snakebite leather and other stuff that is at least questionable these days. The miniatures were SCREAMING "hey, let's play"! The paint schemes looked much less realistic and dark and more like a game. Like it or not, great paint job and a great rememberance to my younger days 🙂
The answer is quite simple. Use enamels and you will see the miniature come to life like that box art. That we use acrylics almost exclusively always baffles me. I come from car modeling. Using lacquers and enamels is what we do. Try it.
You know, using enamel washes would have solved the shading issue. You can easily thin, reduce or build a gradient. I dislike enamels and oils, but the right tool for the right job solves this issue in minutes versus hours. That "control" factor comes with working time, and will mimic the box art much better - the original was done in oil, so if you want to get the shadow identical, you'll want to use that medium to accomplish it. Granted you're a skilled enough painter that you CAN use acrylics to get there - but it's going to take hours versus the ~10 minutes it would take to accomplish with an oil or enamel wash.
Paints in the 90s were fine. People were doing red over white or black spray. Shading washes, inks, and premixed glazes were all available including the likes of Chestnut Wash. Feels like you were thinking about the late 80s.
Well coming from the early 90's here, some paints were ok but lighter shades were quite difficult to work with. Chestnut wash was great though, very versatile.
@@SteveForteGMR Yeah, used it for most red with blood angels red as a highlight, strangely enough skull white was relatively good for doing small surfaces.
The base is a bridge too far for me. What if you drybrushed a deeper green over it and added a few white sparkles here and there to make it look like pulverized emerald or something?
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I strongly believe that space marines look better with all the goofy heraldry, flame patterns, checkers on the power fist, KIL, any and all of it. It rules.
It speaks to the audacity of it all. Grimdark and blanchitsu is great and all, but add some audacity for the true 40k experience
@@GenuineMartin it makes them feel unique and personal to you rather than the plain ones on the box art
We put on two coats of gloss back in the day , because the paint chipped so easily off those metal mini's. Your mini only needs a bit of gloss for that perfect 90's look.
A mini falling over was always groan inducing because you know paint would chip.
My parents would lightly bake them with a pottery sealer. Those things didn’t chip tell I reached my teens .
The glossy vibrant Ulta saturated looks so good. I love grimey grimdark paint style too, but man, you just can't go wrong with the retro style
the toy soldier look has a charm of its own
What might be an issue while glazing over the red is that the liquitex inks tend to reactivate when applying watered down paint over them, sealing them in with a varnish solves this issue
Had that problem, ruined my entire motivation for a project army. Even varnishing in several layers didn’t remedy this. 😢
@asiburger mix a bit of Matt medium into the ink while airbrushing it, that solves this alot better than varnishing afterwards
I have a whole Ultramarines Primaris army painting in 2nd editon style. Red gun casings, yellow trim, green base and back banners. Merry Christmas to you!
Beautifully done! Reminds me of my youth. I won awards painting lead minis back in the day, and was considered very good, but the paints were very different (we used enamel and oil paints!) and so were the surfaces (lead is nothing like plastic). I still have some of my old lead minis and my friends are amazed at what I managed to accomplish back then. I am quite proud of my young self, but I haven’t painted a miniature in over 30 years. You’ve made me want to try my hand at doing this again.
Whilst I think I might be able replicate my old paint jobs now, I will have to relearn how to paint with modern media to duplicate what you’ve done since enamel paint doesn’t mix, flow, or cover like acrylic. But, then again, I’m remembering my glory days and I would probably be disappointed in my brush control.
Thanks for making this video, you’ve brought back good memories.
Nice post, having tried enamel paints for a bit back in the stone age of youth, I can say acrylic is way easier to handle, especially on plastic and with the newer paints even easier. Try your hand, I believe you'll find it easier than you think.
Thank you for Painting a Primaris in the style of the 90’s color/style.
Everytime I see a video/tutorial of someone painting in the 90’s style its always with an Older Model or I see photo of a primaris in the style but no tutorial.
But this was very refreshing to see and I might try this Blood Angel next year.
This model looks Absolutely Stunning!
I still remember seeing these guys in the store when I was a kid, so this hits the nostalgia HARD. A beautiful job highlighting just how timeless some of that old visual language was (is).
This has always been my favorite mini painting style. Volumetric painting is cool but I like how this type of mini looks good from any angle and any lighting condition you put it in.
Wow this looks fantastic. You managed to recapture the vibe of the 90s but with a more modern execution. I was skeptical at first because of the color scheme but it just pops. The result is just great.
As a 39yo blood angel aficionado that has not painted anything in the last 20 odd years... This made me feel right at home! You got a great result and, in my old guy's opinion, a beautiful model! You made me want to go buy some blood red and goblin green (sadly discontinued, I know)
I'm liking the retro vibe going around. I love the aesthetic John Blanche created for the setting, and I'm glad it is getting a revival. I think you did the box are justice with this mini.
Love that red. I always wanted that deep rich red that featured on the BA on some of the WD covers of the day, but GW leaned into that more orange shade after that.
Yeah, I never liked the more orange red GW went with. My BAs are a deep red that looks like, well, _blood._
My personal favourite bright yellow if you haven't tried it yet is bismuth yellow from pro acryl. It's almost painfully bright, coverage is poor but great for really pushing highlights.
That is an awesome paint scheme. I got into warhammer 40k during 2nd edition. Interestingly, the old citadel blood red was closer to an orange and next to impossible to highlight. My 10 year old self salutes you in replicating the box art red, thank you.
Yeah, a ruby red base and blood red as a first highlight was the trick I found to work with orange and sunburst yellow for edge highlight.
Yes we had airbrushes in the 90s, I had my first one in the 80s, we also used to use white basecoats a lot back then in 2nd edition, rogue trader was generally black basecoats, we used a lot of non GW products to get the right effects, most of it was from techniques from the old Airfix and Tamiya ww2 model painters passed down, for my 2nd edition Blood Angels I used a Burnt umber oil paint made into a wash to shade, and panel liner for the darkest shadows.
Of course, but it was nowhere as widespread as today.
I wasn't into 40k back then, but yeah that is quite bright and awesome. Matches the old art really well!
I really like this oldschool look. Even the green base.
I would try to varnish the red ink. That should create a surface on wich the other colors should react as expected.
Bright and shiny power armor is fun. It's how I paint my Ultramarines, like they're in a comic book. Really pops. I save the grim dark for my Slaves to Darkness army.
I think the modern grimdark style is better than the ultra bright 90s version, but I can't deny that it has some appeal and you really did the style justice.
Nice job would love to see an army like that. Ahh the yellows back then were a pain in the behind. Bronzed flesh basecoat and sunburst yellow did the trick but if you had a large surface... Such a pain.
One of my favorite videos of yours. Would love to see this kill team. I gave up painting these back in the day because the paint was so bad. Started collecting in 88 and this takes me straight back. Good job
I still have my 2nd edition books, I love checking out the artwork from time to time. This looks great!
Lot of nostalgia for me in this video. The result is gorgeous. It reminds me a period where the grim dark future was vivid and saturated !
That yellow is hardly a 93 yellow! I've been painting up some 90s eldar and loving it!!
A way to reduce the time and increase the vibrancy of the yellow would be not using masking tape and applying a pink colour.
I use Pro Acryl pale pink and it covers really well (it has probably some of their famous bold titanium white) and doesn't give a chalky finish if thinned properly.
And why not recess shade with oils ? Does it reactivate the ink ?
Looks absolutely stunning man, iconic colour palette 🎉
Nostalgia! Totally love it. Great work. Thanks for sharing mate.
Trovarion casually shows us that he's still the man (in case we forgot). Those freehand flames were amazing. Super clean.
That yellow result is the major thing I always associate with old hammer painting. The orange shadows and almost washed out white highlights.
Merry Christmas and happy holidays! This model is amazing! The flames, the gem and the eye lenses are really great! I always liked the classic 2nd edition Blood Angels painting scheme and I still stick to it. However, my models do not come up to the quality of the miniature you have painted :D
The mini looks great! The base might be a tad to deeply green (both for the retro look and for my poor eyes 😅), but the miniature realy evokes the right feel. And looks awsome
Great job. Have lots of nostalgia for that particular boxart and think you nailed your goal here. Particularly like the flames, those and checkered patterns scream classic 40K in my opinion. A complete Killteam in this style will look amazing.
Wow! I love the look. Thats the 40k I fell in love with as a Kid
I absolutely LOVE how this looks!
Bright red followed by flesh wash and red wash in that order was how I painted BA in early 00s 😎
I've noticed twice in your recent videos that you've had issues with staining once with oils on your imperial fist and once with inks with this blood angel. I think its due to your rattle can white primer adding a micro texture to your miniatures. I think its gripping the pigment as it drys.
That looks amazing! I can't wait to see that killteam!
That is still a really vibrant red from what you can get across through a camera lens
Bad ass as usual. My favorite mini painter. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely loved this. Merry Christmas, Mate.
Great video! Just in time for when I started kitbashing Angels of Death, and I thought about painting them inspired by the exact same graphic.
It looks great! I love your videos, I learn something or get inspired in every one of them. Thanks!
Thanks for this video, such an awesome Christmas gift! I’ll watch it this evening
I've never been a big fan of oldhammer, possibly due to me not even knowing about the hobby during those times. I started my first army when Primaris were well and truly established, and to me that aesthetic IS Warhammer. I do have to admit though, even though the red and yellow kinda scream "McMarine" to me, these are most certainly gonna pop on any table, and the scheme works far better than I would have initially thought.
Yes yes yes. Love these retro painting videos!
I have never played 40K. Only warhammer fantasy back in the day and age of sigmar the last years. The mini looks amazing!!!!
this looks awesome. great job.
Awesome ❤ looks better and have a nice vibe better than WH Game Workshop paint box job!!!
Those inks are god tier for getting really bright saturated colors! Did my bad moons with a yellow ink
Looks Great - Something about this style just pops with the cartoon like colors. Maybe a new series for you to experiment with - Paint some other chapters in the old 90's style. And yes, most of those old paints were horrible - and the pots needed some plier to get the lids off after using the colors after a couple of painting sessions.
Oh man, i remember the pots...
Very cool looking, I'm wondering how well you could do the shadows but using either oils or enamels both for their longer working time and for the general reductive workflow? I'm also curious what would happen if you mixed some florescent inks into your highlight mixes either in addition to or instead of white, or even just glazed it on over the shadowed and highlighted surfaces?
I got into 40k just as 3rd was launching and Blood Angels was my first choice for an army. The paint was terrible, but I'd been into scale modeling since I was a kid and inherited a clunky old airbrush compressor and a very basic airbrush from my older brother when he upgraded. I would have gone crazy trying to paint that entire army with a brush.
looks awesome, prolly goes crazy on the tabletop
Just a Gorgeous mini!!
Ohboy, how you breezed through the black trim on the shoulder pads. That gave me horrible flashbacks. Blood Red was not opaque enough to easily correct a mishap, back then.
Try tamiya panel liner for the shadows
Awesome 🎉 merry Christmas to everyone 🎉
Hmmmmm, might have to paint my leviathan sternguard vets in this old school style. ie the standard when I started playing =)
The Black Flames are badass
Retrohammer > grimdark all day every day. I am so glad to see people adopting it especially in the Ultramarines groups because adding red back to that chapter makes it look that much more impressive on the table.
WOW this is the best ever I wanted to paint them too but scared to,, but now will do it now.
Please do you think I "know only you can" do black templars like this with this method and paints?
because most BTs come out grey BTs?
Great representative of Johns art who I have met a few times and keep a gift that he gave me till this day. thank you.
Merry Xmas from Canada.
Would love to see how you replicate the Rouge Trader Crimson Fists
the only models i own are nostalgia. i think my newest minis from citadel are the first edition LotR figs. One reason is the abundance of metal minis, and that is still a scary format!
But amazing work, would love to see some more retro gone modern! Ps. the base looks amazing!
You forgot the golden yellow drybrush on the base, other than that, perfect
This remembers me painting grenades in blood red or goblin green, pistol holsters in snakebite leather and other stuff that is at least questionable these days. The miniatures were SCREAMING "hey, let's play"!
The paint schemes looked much less realistic and dark and more like a game. Like it or not, great paint job and a great rememberance to my younger days 🙂
It _is_ making me wonder just how much of an abomination a shiny candy apple red paintjob would be...
Snakebite leather was a godsend, from skeletons to clothing even flesh..
GrimDark Retro 3rd edition would be interesting
The answer is quite simple. Use enamels and you will see the miniature come to life like that box art. That we use acrylics almost exclusively always baffles me.
I come from car modeling. Using lacquers and enamels is what we do. Try it.
The average brush-licking Warhammer painter wouldn't survive a day ;)
Well... It's not a Real green Goblin for the base. But the marine id gorgeous. I had this box when I was teenager.
great approach to the retro look
goblin green bases are the GOAT.
Thanks
Thanks a lot for the support mate!
@@trovarion you're welcome. have a good end of year and all the best for 2025.
Old school colors on modern primaris looks good af
Looks great but I'd leave out the goblin green base. Not sure if there's anyone who actually loved that part of the style.
Love everything except the green basing. Always thought that looked stupid
You know, using enamel washes would have solved the shading issue. You can easily thin, reduce or build a gradient. I dislike enamels and oils, but the right tool for the right job solves this issue in minutes versus hours. That "control" factor comes with working time, and will mimic the box art much better - the original was done in oil, so if you want to get the shadow identical, you'll want to use that medium to accomplish it. Granted you're a skilled enough painter that you CAN use acrylics to get there - but it's going to take hours versus the ~10 minutes it would take to accomplish with an oil or enamel wash.
Enamels are also good for bright vibrant colors, which is why the gunpla community use them. Running those through an airbrush is a bit more toxic.
So beautiful 😊😊
Wow, i actually really like it!
That looks great!
This is the only good way to paint Space Marine, especially in 2024. THANK YOU!
Second Edition is king!!
Paints in the 90s were fine. People were doing red over white or black spray. Shading washes, inks, and premixed glazes were all available including the likes of Chestnut Wash. Feels like you were thinking about the late 80s.
Well coming from the early 90's here, some paints were ok but lighter shades were quite difficult to work with. Chestnut wash was great though, very versatile.
@masanthar Ruby Red covered much better than blood red.
@@SteveForteGMR Yeah, used it for most red with blood angels red as a highlight, strangely enough skull white was relatively good for doing small surfaces.
@@masanthar don't forget the Smelly Primer 😁
Very nice. The only think I don't like is the base
Beautiful.
looks amazing! good joob!
Now you have to paint a retro space marine with a modern grim dark style
How did you do the green base?
What Green did you use for the base? I really like it! xD
Had to mix it...I'll let you know when I am back home after the hollidays!
@@trovarion Thank you! and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Call me crazy, but I liked it....a lot.😊
Fantastic stuff
I stil remeber the smell of goblin green! lol
Looking good
The base is a bridge too far for me. What if you drybrushed a deeper green over it and added a few white sparkles here and there to make it look like pulverized emerald or something?
Very good 👍
C'est donc cela qu'on appelle un miracle de Noel.
I like it.
Not a fan of the original art, but love your model!
Cool.