Yeah wood wedges actually work great if done properly. Try it by itself and it's edges will peel on the objects you're prying apart. The trick is to use 3 wood wedges at once. Drive the first two in similar to how feathers work then break them off, or keep them short as possible overall. Then drive the middle main wedge in. Cores actually break very easy lol. I used to have to drill them alot for electrical conduit retrofits on older concrete condos here on my beach. At times it would stall on things like rebar etc and kinda bog out. I'd put my weight on it and rock around as it drilled and that alone would usually snap my cores off lol. In fact the cores was my last worry, the water and existing live wires in conduit already there is what kept my nerves on edge lol
Brilliant examples - as usual. Once again I would simply add a few points. First is that the stones reflected in the video are igneous rock. Thus they represent stones formed in the Earth under high pressure/temperatures to yield rock of a fairly uniform nature. Thus when as the technique shows you via a predetermined line cause "expansion" - which is what chisels/wedges are actually doing = the stone can split fairly evenly if the stonemason knows his trade and understand the nature of the stone they work. Yet the Egyptians and others mostly worked = limestone. This was in part due to its ubiquity to the Near East region as well as it is much softer than the rocks presented in the video. Further limestone is not igneous = but sedimentary. Thus it forms in layers of varying densities depending upon the nature of how it formed. So quarrying limestone if you follow the natural layers of the bedrock can be akin to breaking off say a saltine cracker. If they via a predetermined line simply drive long chisels into the stone along a given layer and it will fracture like breaking a cracker along its perforated sides. A final aside. I watched a show some years ago whereby an Egyptologist was working in a New Kingdom era quarry. There was an abandoned stone sphinx which was partially carved and left in the quarry unfinished - likely due to the Pharaoh dying and the workers being instructed to move onto new projects the new Pharaoh wanted. Anyways the Egyptologist had a magnet on a long handle. He stuck it into the sand surrounding the sphinx = and pulled out iron shavings. So while the Egyptians did not themselves smelt iron until the Persian period = they traded with those who did. So it is possible that perhaps at least some iron tools made it into Egypt during the New Kingdom period. Yes like copper they would have been expensive and likely limited to Pharaonic projects - but it is possible. Thus bronze tools can in fact do the job while there may have also been at least some iron tools involved since iron smelting pre-dates 2000 BC and the Egyptians interacted with those who developed it.
Thanks. There are great examples of limestone splitting, like slate shingles if along the line it was laid down then it’s super smooth, quicks and easy. I believe Petrie but others noted the blocks on the pyramid match the strata lines of the surrounding quarries Similarly in Jerusalem and the blocks at Herods temple. Once the quarry face is set up it’s a matter of minutes to break out the blocks.
Egyptian Tura limestone is very homogenous and crystalline resembling marbles in hardness and grain density. All stones have faults and bedding planes even granite which is why as you pointed out the stonecutter must analyze the situation and use the full range of techniques and tools at his disposal. Softer oolitic and calcified limestones respond very well to splitting methods and are a high yield material source. Despite stratification layers limestone blocks can be/are quarried with these fault lines still intact. Bedding planes are a different story and determine the average size of blocks available as determined by the distance between parallel planes.
@@GroberWeisenstein This! Its the exact reason that the people quarrying Portland stone could use similar techniques, its a very homogenous limestone (and prized for it). Having been to the pyramids this year, I really enjoyed exploring the geology and limestones used throughout the constructions and capping. Its great to get a better understanding about the potential ways that the blocks were cut, as it was a point of interest to myself, as the homogeneity changed so much.
This does look easy. I would say quarrying stones is the easiest part during building say pyramids. Transport and fitting is more time consuming. On top of that the marks we keep finding in ancient quarries are scoop marks. I would say that this technique was not known or not preferred to quarry stones in ancient times.
I have posted some demo's of people moving blocks. As well as fitting techniques. Old timer masons. The scoop marks is a trickier one, I have a longer video on that regarding Aswan. There's a dolerite vein running right through the area. Back in the day they ignored the angular ones and focussed on the rounded stones. The angular ones have been founded transported to other quarries. These angular ones cut into the stone much sharper, sort of like a pick versus a ball hammer. Dolerite is crazy tough against granite. Makes a great tool that would compare with tempered steel. Same types of tools and scoop marks in Inca quarries. Mike Haduck Masonry channel search "ROCKFACING AND SHAPING STONES (Part 13) Mike Haduck" similar techniques to scoop marks to create flat surfaces. Create a series of equal low points then flatten the ridges. "Aswan Quarry #3 "Scoop Marks" and Stone Age Granite Quarrying" for my aswan quarry scoop marks
definitely i reckon as well, there are traces of tht technique in quarries at Macchu Picchu and Ollantaytambo as well. Though since the spanish quarried at some of those places too it is mixed up, some say yes but others no
lol… I love how they “prove” it’s not that hard , by taking a piece mined to a precise depth throughout, and cut from the quarry with grain lines perfectly suited for what they are attempting to “prove” ….and then using steel because they don’t even want to try doing it with copper.. so much modern technology went into getting them just to the starting block,…it’s laughable how far some people are willing to go so that their beliefs aren’t challenged.
I did it with wood when lost tech said you need steel I’m not sure you even watched or I am missing your sarcasm. Included links to references in wooden wedges No one in a quarry is going to use it because they are working , they’re not a historical recreation society who were anticipating the internet and a bunch of lazy ass good for nothings from the future would worship stone as a magical mystery. Though large blocks split with copper for a Egyptian documentary was done. Unless it’s sarcasm I think you are the one desperately holding onto a belief. Mines to precise depth? Are you saying the stone above was somehow different? The old timers used machines above and then switched to feather and wedge? Again unless I am missing your sarcasm your points seem quite mental. Sad in their desperation to protect a dogma. The fact is it isn’t that hard. If you have doubts go and give it a try. Along with other old methods like fire setting. No one is stopping you. If you think it’s impossible then you and the LAHT peeps can maybe do something for a change. It would be very out of character but old dogs can learn new tricks, or should I say old dogs can still learn one trick.
If you refer to this video = you missed the point. It shows how via using chisels and hammers you can fracture stone in specific ways. There are loads of other videos to be had which show working stone using gneiss stone tools etc.. As far as LAHT = they don't challenge. They posit all sorts of nonsense based upon basically nothing as it is all inference and allusion to supposed "lost" technology and peoples. That is not a cogent nor compelling argument as it typically yields argument ad ignorantiam. So the video references show actual techniques which work whereas LAHT gives you = nothing but lots of "what if........".
@@SacredGeometryDecoded he's commenting on this video. I'd like to know how you explain the unfinished obelisk in Egypt. The scoop marks underneath it? How'd they do it?
something that I've never heard mentioned is that all tool makers, mechanics, machinists Etc have brass hammers and brass punches for hitting hardened steel. ive had the same brass hammer for 20 plus years use it all the time . probably has another 20 years in it. it will eventually become kind of a rounded ball on the end of the handle so you just start hitting it the other way. the old school ones are made with around ball on the end to hit from every direction
I was reading something unrelated today and it mentioned that Hannibal used fire, water, and wine to break boulders blocking his army's path whilst trying to get those dang elephants over the Alps. I'm trying to figure out how the wine fit in other than the water content - maybe to "keep warm" while waiting for the water poured down the cracks to freeze and expand over night?
Probably a result of availability. The Roman Army drank a lot of diluted wine and "posca" - a water/herb/vinegar drink. Wine has a longer shelf life in that it can be stored a lot longer than water which can go bad for various reasons as wine is fermented. Also wine is made from grapes and hence it has caloric value to give the soldiers some energy since grapes contain sugar. Finally animals must drink water and not wine. So away from major water sources - such as in the mountains - the ubiquitous availability of wine which was part of the daily soldier ration might have made it suitable in places whereas water might be saved for animals and other uses. Just a thought.
Missing reply by Vary Olla - i can see it in YT studio Probably a result of availability. The Roman Army drank a lot of diluted wine and "posca" - a water/herb/vinegar drink. Wine has a longer shelf life in that it can be stored a lot longer than water which can go bad for various reasons as wine is fermented. Also wine is made from grapes and hence it has caloric value to give the soldiers some energy since grapes contain sugar. Finally animals must drink water and not wine. So away from major water sources - such as in the mountains - the ubiquitous availability of wine which was part of the daily soldier ration might have made it suitable in places whereas water might be saved for animals and other uses. Just a thought.
maybe to pay the locals to show him the tricks of the trade? If it was in Australia it would be beer I guess. A couple slabs of beer can get anything done down under
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Wine contains alcohol = and alcohol denatures protein bonds. That is why it is used as a disinfectant. It is also why wine or liquor can be stored for years in barrels as opposed to plain water which can suffer from potability issues. So my point was simply that the Romans like others drank vast quantities of wine etc. and thus it may have simply been more available for them to use. The Egyptians drank enormous quantities of beer for the same reason = safer than risking plain water. So the Romans may have been heating stone to weaken it much as the Egyptians did in their own quarrying efforts. Wine rather than water - which would be saved for animal consumption and cooking - may have been less available away from sources like springs/rivers to for quenching. There are no chemical properties associated with wine vis a vis weakening stone I am aware of. I suspect it was merely due to availability. Let's see if this comment makes it. lol!
Will do some videos on that eventually. Still trying to isolate some important clips. But I showed a video not too long ago about pantheon and recent restorations, used simple ancient technique to fit much more difficult stones
Was watching a video in the past few months cant remember which but they were at the Preseli hills quarry where the Stonehenge blue stones quarry was. I am pretty sure they said they had found stone wedges and also they were suggesting wooden wedges too used in the quarrying. Watch a lot of The Prehistory Guys channel, could have been on one of them. Also amazing if you dont have a good overview of uk stone circles etc is a great documentary called "standing with stones". These guys knew what they were doing.
For sure. I saw a cool doco on similar with them using wood, sand and a bow drill to make holes to place handles in hammers and axes. Funny that stone age people might actually know something about stone, it's a crazy idea I know but just imagine it if you can? :-P
@@SacredGeometryDecoded haha, looks like things are going to get spicy real soon.. We should ask Ben how to LAHT us some underground facilities out of the granite bedrock so we can ride out the zombie apocalypse in luxurious safety... Let's goooooo
I have been looking all over Sweden for a set of these for quite a while. I have a rock outcrop (gneiss) that would make thick, gorgeous paving stones to cross a poorly drained corner of my neighbor's lawn. Thanks for giving me the proper terminology. "Feather and wedge". and ... Many hits even here in Sweden! Woo woo! I am embarrassed, actually, I evidently could have tried oak wedges in the natural cracks(!?) but naively assumed it required higher tech than I have. _Quelle idiot!_
that piece i showed here, red build up on outside but it's dark grey inside, a kind of gneiss of dolerite, much harder than any of the red, black and grey granite to drill. Even with power tools i don't envy the work on that type of stone.
cut some old copper pipe for shims, or sheet copper and away you go though timber ones will probably be single use, take advantage of the iron and call on Regin or Brokkr
check out the links in description, a cool old handbook from 1904 "Practical Masonry: A Guide to the Art of Stone Cutting" by William Purchase. It's on archive dot org but if i put the link here I reckon it will be ghosted
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I've got most of my stonecutters tools from a company in USA called Trow&Holden. They have technical how to info on their site and video links too. They are located in a famous granite region near Barre Vermont and have been in business many years . My grandfather used to buy from them too. Good tools and resource.
Not trying to be sarcastic or start an argument, but I just don't see it. This barely shows how granite can be split ,but says nothing for the sheer number of them, the lack of any tools or tool marks left by doing it this way, the unbelievable size and weight and logistics, the nubs that are obviously a common denominator , the vitrification seen also as a common trait among megaliths, and on and on and on. It really does make it seem that your t rying to fit a square peg into a circle. For as long as science closes its mind to possibilities that are out of their comfort zone, we can learn nothing.
Very few feather and wedge blocks retain their marks as they are then faced to make buildings. The marks that do remain are then concealed. There are other traditional ways such as fire setting. The size doesn’t matter as small or large the splitting method is the same. I have a playlist Moving Megaliths that’s shows large blocks, huge blocks, being moved and placed with ancient tech. There are countless videos and comments quoting”scientists snd expert engineers” saying this and other things are impossible therefore we must open our mind to other possibilities. In the case of Chris Dunn who is the go to guy he faked his drill core experiment by using a machine and then failed to remove the core with copper, or do he claims. Therefore we must look at other possibilities? I would say the lost tech isnt open to the traditional proven methods. If there was a single case requiring something other than the materials and techniques available then I would accept that. The lost tech argument is putting square pegs on round holes.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Yes, cheated, and with a steel bit. But.. the vast amount of these construct's that we see today, the precision, the huge amounts of material removed, the unexplainable "scoops marks", the "to me" obvious proof of use of high rpm lathes in stone containers, bowls and vases precise to the thousandths. A standard we struggle to achieve today in most. At the rate of progress we see with traditional methods and the vast amount of it, we would be so primitive as to still be sleeping in the trees at the time work began. I just think that the softening of the the stone would explain away almost all that we cannot comprehend. (Idk.. acoustics/sonic vibrations/frequency? It's not hard for me to imagine that a chapter was lost somewhere, and we are failing to understand a science that would at first, like the microwave oven seem like magic, but in reality, is just an example of physics that we were/are not familiar with. Nothing fits, and the debate itself is proof that we are not ALL knowing and that something took place we can't explain (lost). I'm completely open-minded, but dang, if we have to go another 200 years without one single "completed" example using the canned method suggested.... That cube would fit right in the hole if we were able to temporarily alter it's hardness. Maybe, like sand, just use a regular old shovel to scoop out what's needed. I would say that time will tell but I believe that's how we got here.
The facts must leave LAHT people doing mental flip-flops trying to work out how their stupid idea can remain true in the face of the facts. I pity these people. Failing to understand reality, and being constantly duped by scumbags is no way to live life.
They do not care about if they are believed or not really. They only care = that people listen - as that can then be monetized. So exposing the dubious nature of what they claim is easily dealt with = attacking the sources of said debunking. Then no matter how much credible counterpoint is offered - no one will listen. As an aside. You see exactly this paradigm today in the US whereby the political Right simply dismisses all contradictory information out of hand and clings to their supposed "alternative facts". They are fleas on the same dog of assumptive logic - only applied to different things.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded 🙄 Imagine that. G's algorithms strike again. I sometimes cut & paste ghosted comments and send them via channel feedback to show how truly muddled their filtering efforts really are. Naturally = they do not respond.
I was, ans still am, into the maths of the pyramid but it isn't precise. The 7-11 proportions contain the bulk of the math in the Great Pyramid. th-cam.com/video/Eijwgi8rCRg/w-d-xo.html The above goes into ancient math, geometry and surveying. Though in terms of building with precision the Roman Aqueducts are on an entirely different level compared to the pyramids.
Be wary of "statistical fallacies". In other words while there are mathematical principles we recognize today under a modern appellation which are based upon ancient principles = not all are. There is a sports metaphor which is apropos here: _"Monday morning quarterbacking."_ That is where you after the fact ascribe a newer "interpretation" to something. Thus if you want to claim the Egyptians followed some mathematical precept vis a vis their constructions you need to also demonstrate their familiarity with the concept as well as something to indicate they purposely did so lest as noted = you are simply reinterpreting what you see to fit your new understanding about it. If you wanted and you played with the numbers enough you could probably gin up some supposed "correlation" between the pyramids and say Super Bowl scores - but that does not make it real. 🤔
Thank you for this. While its fun to think of an ancient technology that constructed buildings ljke the pyramids- the fact is we humans walked with God at one time and are smart! Probably more so then ! With the help of well documented giants- anything possible !
Yeah wood wedges actually work great if done properly. Try it by itself and it's edges will peel on the objects you're prying apart. The trick is to use 3 wood wedges at once. Drive the first two in similar to how feathers work then break them off, or keep them short as possible overall. Then drive the middle main wedge in.
Cores actually break very easy lol. I used to have to drill them alot for electrical conduit retrofits on older concrete condos here on my beach. At times it would stall on things like rebar etc and kinda bog out. I'd put my weight on it and rock around as it drilled and that alone would usually snap my cores off lol. In fact the cores was my last worry, the water and existing live wires in conduit already there is what kept my nerves on edge lol
Brilliant examples - as usual. Once again I would simply add a few points. First is that the stones reflected in the video are igneous rock. Thus they represent stones formed in the Earth under high pressure/temperatures to yield rock of a fairly uniform nature. Thus when as the technique shows you via a predetermined line cause "expansion" - which is what chisels/wedges are actually doing = the stone can split fairly evenly if the stonemason knows his trade and understand the nature of the stone they work.
Yet the Egyptians and others mostly worked = limestone. This was in part due to its ubiquity to the Near East region as well as it is much softer than the rocks presented in the video. Further limestone is not igneous = but sedimentary. Thus it forms in layers of varying densities depending upon the nature of how it formed. So quarrying limestone if you follow the natural layers of the bedrock can be akin to breaking off say a saltine cracker. If they via a predetermined line simply drive long chisels into the stone along a given layer and it will fracture like breaking a cracker along its perforated sides.
A final aside. I watched a show some years ago whereby an Egyptologist was working in a New Kingdom era quarry. There was an abandoned stone sphinx which was partially carved and left in the quarry unfinished - likely due to the Pharaoh dying and the workers being instructed to move onto new projects the new Pharaoh wanted. Anyways the Egyptologist had a magnet on a long handle. He stuck it into the sand surrounding the sphinx = and pulled out iron shavings.
So while the Egyptians did not themselves smelt iron until the Persian period = they traded with those who did. So it is possible that perhaps at least some iron tools made it into Egypt during the New Kingdom period. Yes like copper they would have been expensive and likely limited to Pharaonic projects - but it is possible. Thus bronze tools can in fact do the job while there may have also been at least some iron tools involved since iron smelting pre-dates 2000 BC and the Egyptians interacted with those who developed it.
Thanks.
There are great examples of limestone splitting, like slate shingles if along the line it was laid down then it’s super smooth, quicks and easy.
I believe Petrie but others noted the blocks on the pyramid match the strata lines of the surrounding quarries
Similarly in Jerusalem and the blocks at Herods temple.
Once the quarry face is set up it’s a matter of minutes to break out the blocks.
Egyptian Tura limestone is very homogenous and crystalline resembling marbles in hardness and grain density. All stones have faults and bedding planes even granite which is why as you pointed out the stonecutter must analyze the situation and use the full range of techniques and tools at his disposal. Softer oolitic and calcified limestones respond very well to splitting methods and are a high yield material source. Despite stratification layers limestone blocks can be/are quarried with these fault lines still intact. Bedding planes are a different story and determine the average size of blocks available as determined by the distance between parallel planes.
@@GroberWeisenstein This! Its the exact reason that the people quarrying Portland stone could use similar techniques, its a very homogenous limestone (and prized for it).
Having been to the pyramids this year, I really enjoyed exploring the geology and limestones used throughout the constructions and capping. Its great to get a better understanding about the potential ways that the blocks were cut, as it was a point of interest to myself, as the homogeneity changed so much.
@@GroberWeisenstein th-cam.com/video/h8QYVYceWv8/w-d-xo.html pardon the bad explanation but this was one of the videos I was referring too
As much firewood as ive chopped splitting a giant rock would make me feel legend.
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Nothing new under the sun , just things of old that's been forgotten.
This does look easy. I would say quarrying stones is the easiest part during building say pyramids. Transport and fitting is more time consuming. On top of that the marks we keep finding in ancient quarries are scoop marks. I would say that this technique was not known or not preferred to quarry stones in ancient times.
I have posted some demo's of people moving blocks. As well as fitting techniques. Old timer masons.
The scoop marks is a trickier one, I have a longer video on that regarding Aswan. There's a dolerite vein running right through the area. Back in the day they ignored the angular ones and focussed on the rounded stones. The angular ones have been founded transported to other quarries.
These angular ones cut into the stone much sharper, sort of like a pick versus a ball hammer. Dolerite is crazy tough against granite. Makes a great tool that would compare with tempered steel.
Same types of tools and scoop marks in Inca quarries.
Mike Haduck Masonry channel
search "ROCKFACING AND SHAPING STONES (Part 13) Mike Haduck" similar techniques to scoop marks to create flat surfaces. Create a series of equal low points then flatten the ridges.
"Aswan Quarry #3 "Scoop Marks" and Stone Age Granite Quarrying" for my aswan quarry scoop marks
...still feel like that's what the dude (PONCE MONOLITH) is holding in his LEFT HAND (wedges in a pouch) ... golden
definitely i reckon as well, there are traces of tht technique in quarries at Macchu Picchu and Ollantaytambo as well. Though since the spanish quarried at some of those places too it is mixed up, some say yes but others no
It reminds me of a saying from my neck of the woods, roughly translates as: if a person is too tough, he will break all at once
lol… I love how they “prove” it’s not that hard , by taking a piece mined to a precise depth throughout, and cut from the quarry with grain lines perfectly suited for what they are attempting to “prove” ….and then using steel because they don’t even want to try doing it with copper.. so much modern technology went into getting them just to the starting block,…it’s laughable how far some people are willing to go so that their beliefs aren’t challenged.
I did it with wood when lost tech said you need steel
I’m not sure you even watched or I am missing your sarcasm.
Included links to references in wooden wedges
No one in a quarry is going to use it because they are working , they’re not a historical recreation society who were anticipating the internet and a bunch of lazy ass good for nothings from the future would worship stone as a magical mystery.
Though large blocks split with copper for a Egyptian documentary was done.
Unless it’s sarcasm I think you are the one desperately holding onto a belief.
Mines to precise depth? Are you saying the stone above was somehow different? The old timers used machines above and then switched to feather and wedge?
Again unless I am missing your sarcasm your points seem quite mental. Sad in their desperation to protect a dogma.
The fact is it isn’t that hard.
If you have doubts go and give it a try. Along with other old methods like fire setting.
No one is stopping you. If you think it’s impossible then you and the LAHT peeps can maybe do something for a change.
It would be very out of character but old dogs can learn new tricks, or should I say old dogs can still learn one trick.
If you refer to this video = you missed the point. It shows how via using chisels and hammers you can fracture stone in specific ways. There are loads of other videos to be had which show working stone using gneiss stone tools etc.. As far as LAHT = they don't challenge. They posit all sorts of nonsense based upon basically nothing as it is all inference and allusion to supposed "lost" technology and peoples. That is not a cogent nor compelling argument as it typically yields argument ad ignorantiam. So the video references show actual techniques which work whereas LAHT gives you = nothing but lots of "what if........".
@@SacredGeometryDecoded he's commenting on this video. I'd like to know how you explain the unfinished obelisk in Egypt. The scoop marks underneath it? How'd they do it?
@@kevincharles1983 th-cam.com/video/eDXJnCjhqDU/w-d-xo.html
begin at 29 minutes for the under cutting
something that I've never heard mentioned is that all tool makers, mechanics, machinists Etc have brass hammers and brass punches for hitting hardened steel. ive had the same brass hammer for 20 plus years use it all the time . probably has another 20 years in it. it will eventually become kind of a rounded ball on the end of the handle so you just start hitting it the other way. the old school ones are made with around ball on the end to hit from every direction
no sparks either, safer around flammables
Just like old shoes old tools are the best, muscle memory knows where every gram is distributed.
I was reading something unrelated today and it mentioned that Hannibal used fire, water, and wine to break boulders blocking his army's path whilst trying to get those dang elephants over the Alps. I'm trying to figure out how the wine fit in other than the water content - maybe to "keep warm" while waiting for the water poured down the cracks to freeze and expand over night?
Probably a result of availability. The Roman Army drank a lot of diluted wine and "posca" - a water/herb/vinegar drink. Wine has a longer shelf life in that it can be stored a lot longer than water which can go bad for various reasons as wine is fermented. Also wine is made from grapes and hence it has caloric value to give the soldiers some energy since grapes contain sugar. Finally animals must drink water and not wine.
So away from major water sources - such as in the mountains - the ubiquitous availability of wine which was part of the daily soldier ration might have made it suitable in places whereas water might be saved for animals and other uses. Just a thought.
Missing reply by Vary Olla - i can see it in YT studio
Probably a result of availability. The Roman Army drank a lot of diluted wine and "posca" - a water/herb/vinegar drink. Wine has a longer shelf life in that it can be stored a lot longer than water which can go bad for various reasons as wine is fermented. Also wine is made from grapes and hence it has caloric value to give the soldiers some energy since grapes contain sugar. Finally animals must drink water and not wine.
So away from major water sources - such as in the mountains - the ubiquitous availability of wine which was part of the daily soldier ration might have made it suitable in places whereas water might be saved for animals and other uses. Just a thought.
maybe to pay the locals to show him the tricks of the trade? If it was in Australia it would be beer I guess. A couple slabs of beer can get anything done down under
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Wine contains alcohol = and alcohol denatures protein bonds. That is why it is used as a disinfectant. It is also why wine or liquor can be stored for years in barrels as opposed to plain water which can suffer from potability issues. So my point was simply that the Romans like others drank vast quantities of wine etc. and thus it may have simply been more available for them to use.
The Egyptians drank enormous quantities of beer for the same reason = safer than risking plain water. So the Romans may have been heating stone to weaken it much as the Egyptians did in their own quarrying efforts. Wine rather than water - which would be saved for animal consumption and cooking - may have been less available away from sources like springs/rivers to for quenching. There are no chemical properties associated with wine vis a vis weakening stone I am aware of. I suspect it was merely due to availability. Let's see if this comment makes it. lol!
How do u think they made the walls in peru?
Will do some videos on that eventually. Still trying to isolate some important clips.
But I showed a video not too long ago about pantheon and recent restorations, used simple ancient technique to fit much more difficult stones
th-cam.com/video/L9Tddr6Fl90/w-d-xo.html
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I look forward to seeing it.
Thanks for doing the hard work, and calling out the fraud!
Now watch as the LAHT flying monkeys move the goalpost...
They do exceed at that
Was watching a video in the past few months cant remember which but they were at the Preseli hills quarry where the Stonehenge blue stones quarry was. I am pretty sure they said they had found stone wedges and also they were suggesting wooden wedges too used in the quarrying. Watch a lot of The Prehistory Guys channel, could have been on one of them. Also amazing if you dont have a good overview of uk stone circles etc is a great documentary called "standing with stones". These guys knew what they were doing.
For sure. I saw a cool doco on similar with them using wood, sand and a bow drill to make holes to place handles in hammers and axes. Funny that stone age people might actually know something about stone, it's a crazy idea I know but just imagine it if you can? :-P
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I'm trying to imagine it but the LAHT's have debunked all notions of this due to their hard work and overwhelming evidence....
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Ha ha yeah its almost "too much" to get your head round. Take it easy.
Wait, what's this? A video at normal people hours ??
Lolo
i out wifi in the coffin ;-)
@@SacredGeometryDecoded haha, looks like things are going to get spicy real soon..
We should ask Ben how to LAHT us some underground facilities out of the granite bedrock so we can ride out the zombie apocalypse in luxurious safety...
Let's goooooo
Continued thanks for your work
Thank you, I will
I have been looking all over Sweden for a set of these for quite a while. I have a rock outcrop (gneiss) that would make thick, gorgeous paving stones to cross a poorly drained corner of my neighbor's lawn.
Thanks for giving me the proper terminology. "Feather and wedge". and ... Many hits even here in Sweden! Woo woo!
I am embarrassed, actually, I evidently could have tried oak wedges in the natural cracks(!?) but naively assumed it required higher tech than I have. _Quelle idiot!_
that piece i showed here, red build up on outside but it's dark grey inside, a kind of gneiss of dolerite, much harder than any of the red, black and grey granite to drill. Even with power tools i don't envy the work on that type of stone.
cut some old copper pipe for shims, or sheet copper and away you go
though timber ones will probably be single use, take advantage of the iron and call on Regin or Brokkr
check out the links in description, a cool old handbook from 1904 "Practical Masonry: A Guide to the Art of Stone Cutting" by William Purchase.
It's on archive dot org but if i put the link here I reckon it will be ghosted
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I've got most of my stonecutters tools from a company in USA called Trow&Holden. They have technical how to info on their site and video links too. They are located in a famous granite region near Barre Vermont and have been in business many years . My grandfather used to buy from them too. Good tools and resource.
Sweet, I have a nice collection of old photos and bits of piece from Vermont Granite CO.
Not trying to be sarcastic or start an argument, but I just don't see it. This barely shows how granite can be split ,but says nothing for the sheer number of them, the lack of any tools or tool marks left by doing it this way, the unbelievable size and weight and logistics, the nubs that are obviously a common denominator , the vitrification seen also as a common trait among megaliths, and on and on and on. It really does make it seem that your t rying to fit a square peg into a circle. For as long as science closes its mind to possibilities that are out of their comfort zone, we can learn nothing.
Very few feather and wedge blocks retain their marks as they are then faced to make buildings. The marks that do remain are then concealed.
There are other traditional ways such as fire setting.
The size doesn’t matter as small or large the splitting method is the same.
I have a playlist Moving Megaliths that’s shows large blocks, huge blocks, being moved and placed with ancient tech.
There are countless videos and comments quoting”scientists snd expert engineers” saying this and other things are impossible therefore we must open our mind to other possibilities. In the case of Chris Dunn who is the go to guy he faked his drill core experiment by using a machine and then failed to remove the core with copper, or do he claims. Therefore we must look at other possibilities?
I would say the lost tech isnt open to the traditional proven methods.
If there was a single case requiring something other than the materials and techniques available then I would accept that.
The lost tech argument is putting square pegs on round holes.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Yes, cheated, and with a steel bit. But.. the vast amount of these construct's that we see today, the precision, the huge amounts of material removed, the unexplainable "scoops marks", the "to me" obvious proof of use of high rpm lathes in stone containers, bowls and vases precise to the thousandths. A standard we struggle to achieve today in most. At the rate of progress we see with traditional methods and the vast amount of it, we would be so primitive as to still be sleeping in the trees at the time work began.
I just think that the softening of the the stone would explain away almost all that we cannot comprehend. (Idk.. acoustics/sonic vibrations/frequency? It's not hard for me to imagine that a chapter was lost somewhere, and we are failing to understand a science that would at first, like the microwave oven seem like magic, but in reality, is just an example of physics that we were/are not familiar with. Nothing fits, and the debate itself is proof that we are not ALL knowing and that something took place we can't explain (lost). I'm completely open-minded, but dang, if we have to go another 200 years without one single "completed" example using the canned method suggested.... That cube would fit right in the hole if we were able to temporarily alter it's hardness. Maybe, like sand, just use a regular old shovel to scoop out what's needed. I would say that time will tell but I believe that's how we got here.
@@williamdaugherty7099 _"Idk.. acoustics/sonic vibrations/frequency?"_
You're really just saying "magic" using technobabble.
The facts must leave LAHT people doing mental flip-flops trying to work out how their stupid idea can remain true in the face of the facts.
I pity these people.
Failing to understand reality, and being constantly duped by scumbags is no way to live life.
They do not care about if they are believed or not really. They only care = that people listen - as that can then be monetized. So exposing the dubious nature of what they claim is easily dealt with = attacking the sources of said debunking. Then no matter how much credible counterpoint is offered - no one will listen.
As an aside. You see exactly this paradigm today in the US whereby the political Right simply dismisses all contradictory information out of hand and clings to their supposed "alternative facts". They are fleas on the same dog of assumptive logic - only applied to different things.
Your reply is hidden on the video but i can see it here on YT studio
@@SacredGeometryDecoded 🙄 Imagine that. G's algorithms strike again. I sometimes cut & paste ghosted comments and send them via channel feedback to show how truly muddled their filtering efforts really are. Naturally = they do not respond.
This is cool and all but doesn’t explain the mathematical precision seen in the pyramids
I was, ans still am, into the maths of the pyramid but it isn't precise. The 7-11 proportions contain the bulk of the math in the Great Pyramid.
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The above goes into ancient math, geometry and surveying.
Though in terms of building with precision the Roman Aqueducts are on an entirely different level compared to the pyramids.
Be wary of "statistical fallacies". In other words while there are mathematical principles we recognize today under a modern appellation which are based upon ancient principles = not all are. There is a sports metaphor which is apropos here: _"Monday morning quarterbacking."_ That is where you after the fact ascribe a newer "interpretation" to something.
Thus if you want to claim the Egyptians followed some mathematical precept vis a vis their constructions you need to also demonstrate their familiarity with the concept as well as something to indicate they purposely did so lest as noted = you are simply reinterpreting what you see to fit your new understanding about it. If you wanted and you played with the numbers enough you could probably gin up some supposed "correlation" between the pyramids and say Super Bowl scores - but that does not make it real. 🤔
Thank you for this. While its fun to think of an ancient technology that constructed buildings ljke the pyramids- the fact is we humans walked with God at one time and are smart! Probably more so then ! With the help of well documented giants- anything possible !