Thank you for the review on this I was looking at buying this machine. After your review on the dial slipping & gear sticking I can't afford messing my stones up.
Good honest review Justin and exactly the end result I expected, Like you said hopefully there will be a revised head now that you have given them your opinion on the machine, The simple solution is for them to fix the problems and then they will sell machines because as you stated a good entry level starting price and should sell really well once the problems have been sorted.
I have run into the exact problems with the inexpensive one that I bought , just to see if I wanted to cut stones. A lot of homemade modifications, and I am able to cut basic designs, but I know I will be buying an ultra tech, as soon as possible. And I really expect, my cutting to improve by leaps & bounds, with a more precise machine. Thanks for the review. Keeps me from making another mistake purchase. Love the channel.
It's a pity, because there a lot of novices out there that can't afford the top notch brands. This machine would be and ideal solution. I'm sure there will be improvements in the near future. Very clean and honest review. 👍
I couldn’t agree more with you, George, but you’re overlooking an almost identically priced machine that’s in far wider use than you might think: the Sterling ST-08 from Sri Lanka. Yes, it’s a handpiece-type faceter, but it really is “the best of the best” of them (makes the Raytech-Shaw look like a toy) and it can be ordered with a 1/10-degree vernier angle adjustment and a cheater, if you’d like. I got one a couple of months back, and it’s been surprising me at every turn - especially as a guy with 35 years of Ultra Tec and 10 years of Fac-Ette GM II experience! Yes, it’s taking awhile to get completely used to, but I think it’d surprise you too…
@@DouglasTuret To tell you the truth Douglas, I'm like a kid in a candy store when ever I see a new faceting machine regardless of its origin. I'd love to try out the Sterling, I've been using a Bunter for the past 40 years and never went back to a mast machine ever since. If I didn't have the Bunter, I would like to own the Sterling for hand piece and the Ultra Tec VL. for mast machine. Back in our days of starting out, we could walk into a store a try out the machine physically and know what we're buying, unfortunately we can't do that anymore.
Seems it can only be 2 things either the manipulator is sliding on the pivot shaft or the dial mechanism is moving but it looks like to me watching you its the manipulator slipping on the pivot shaft, must be a set screw somewhere to tighten the manipulator to the shaft.
When you began this video, Justin, and I immediately recognized this unit as a cheap knock-off of the Ultra Tec, dressed in Facetron colors, something inside me knew what we were in store for! Thanks for not letting me down 😅
They want to be a good machine and I Do believe that some of these machines are or will be good but unfortunately this one was not. Im not sure if it’s fair to call these a knockoff. Literally every American machine is copied off of other American machines all the way back to 1903. But yes, nothing unique or original here either.
Justin, the look on your face about halfway through said it all for me. I also think that the plastic mast height mechanism for the fine height adjustment will wear drastically over a short time.
for what i see in the video in the shaft where the rotating angle wheel is attach to, slips out and that's why the angle wheel dont stay coming back to the same angle, it could be fix creating an external attachment to fix solid the angle wheel to the shaft ,all the time you put down the head and hit the hard stop that wheel is going to move out of angle unless is fix to the main shaft ,they made a bad design but could be fix .
The two piece gear system in the mast is loose and the gears are not aligned in parallel. The gear teeth may also not be machined with the proper specs and/or designed using the correct alloy metal.
Agree that a gem cutter should have a lot of input in the designing of machines, but top level machinist and their toolsets ultimately will be the ma in factors in a quality faceting machine in a mass production environment.
I’m machine my own mast machine and I can’t imagine relying on a gear to transfer angle accurately to the angle indicator. My angle wheel will be directly attached to the pivot shaft. And will be much larger and facing to the rear.
It looks like the angle dial is slipping on the shaft. It does not have enough friction to stay locked into place on the geared shaft. I think if you cycled it up and down slowly without hitting that hard stop the dial will stay. But if thy made the dial have a tapered hole the nut will lock it onto the shaft. Sad to see that thy were so close.
Great review Justin, disappointing that they can't get the basic mechanicals right. Another couple of issues came to mind with me, firstly the white vernier support on the mast, over time this might wear from the movement of the vernier and this would also give rise to accuracy problems. Secondly the index going backwards, this is a horror as if you have to cut a gem design with a spiral, and there are plenty of them, the spiral will go in the wrong direction. I know a competition cutter that got caught with this issue and it was instant disqualification of his gem in the competition. Another thing they need to think about is adding a spring mechanism to the plate that connects with the depth of cut gauge, it would make it easier to change degrees and you wouldn't be fighting to get everything clamped in the right place.
Lots of machines have index wheels that go backwards from Ultratec. That’s really stupid of the judges to not understand that, it’s very shortsighted and is not a reason to disqualify. My Sri Lankan machine also has an index gear that’s backwards from Ultratecs. I don’t even think all the American machines have Their index wheels going exactly the same way though. I could be wrong about that.
@@JustinKPrim im sure it wouldnt be great. ive had to build my shop using budget equipment. sadly, i think some tols are budget friendly. vevors graver is usable. but idk if their machine is. kinda like a lazer welder. either you have money, or you find another way
As a beginner I would be absolutely disappointed spending over a thousand dollars on a machine that’s unreliable, why did they not find all the glitches before sending a machine for review , they shot themselves in the foot really , to bad now , I wouldn’t buy one like this , very disappointing. Thanks for your review even though this was a couple of years ago now.👍
I was wondering the same thing. A lot of these companies making machines are full of engineers and no Faceters so maybe they have no way of really understanding and testing what they’ve built.
Just bought this VFM 2.. They have fixed this issue, thy sent me video to prove it,. Why are there no update on this.. Follow Up video..etc thy even have a stronger engine 350W now ;) And a lot of other things has been changed .. But when you said Speed Up to !! super fast i lost it.. I took me 1 min to find 0-2000 rpm ;)
also i think that the internal gears are set too tight and they get stock that could be fix too, but if they are too loose could create backlash and will give you a bad angle reading also ,unless you use anti backlash gears ,that's why when this company try to be cheap and cut corners and use poor material like plastic and simple designs things dont work well at the end i could said that of of the best made machine i have seen is the polymeric machine .i have 2 old prismatic machines that am restoring and the where well made back them also 40 years ago .
Any update on if the manufacturer fixed this issue? It's been 2 years since you did this video. I'm curious if anyone heard anything. I'm wanting to get into gem cutting and would love to find a good entry level machine.
I will bet my bottom dollar the head itself is slipping on the shaft.A set screw I would guess is tightened to keep the head and shaft together as one is it slips the dials will seem to be the problem but I’LL bet its the swing arm and shaft
thanks for this honest review...i was really looking forward to getting this machine for the price and proximity to australia.... now i'll keep looking.... do you have any recommendations for a newbie to purchase a machine for around $2000US ready to go out of box?
For a mast machine no. So far it seems that the Facetron or the Ultratec VL are both the only decent machines sub $4000 USD. For a handpiece machine, yes. The one I use along with all the accessories and laps can be purchased for about $2000. My shopping list is here: drive.google.com/file/d/14NvJ89tXbRh6wIkFRljjQ607qcall20W/view?usp=sharing
@@JustinKPrim so i got in touch with sterling and they are working on a quote for shipping a machine to australia. I'll be following your videos more closely when i get the machine... i'll be intouch...take your class .. thanks again mate
@@JustinKPrim having some difficulty with sterling...they don't take credit card or paypal...my bank is in US and the hassle to pay them is insane.and more expensive. was bank transfer the way you paid for the machine? it's the only way they will accept payment.. i'm at a loss
I don't think I can convince him to give me one but maybe next time I got to Taipei I can spend a day using one. That would be great and Taipei has been calling me.
I am thinking of buying one of these machines and have been assured by the company that this machines have be overhauled and are now 100% can anyone verify this for me I am just starting out and have a tight budget I live north east Scotland and no one to mentor me so I am basically self teaching myself
3:15 "Decimal index devisor thing here" = angle Vernier. Interesting review.The dop holding screw could be replace with a hex head grub screw. the Index wheel issues couldbe fixed with some nail polish of different colors, the index direction thing, other machines have various different directions and index lock positions (top/bottom), it happens. The other problem with the angle changing looks and sounds like two problems. One is what you said, the hard stop locking clamp is not doing it's job. The Halls' Xtra can have a similar issue if it is not done up hard, you get in the habit of hold the moving part of the quill/hard stop, up against the hardstop, and lock it down. Even then a quill drop will sometimes loose angle, just needs practise and a better locking clamp. . The Angle knob/dial seems to need some sort of locking screw/nut, as you said, and firmly locked in place as part of calibrating it (is the 45degree adaptor square? I wonder.). The Index Lever definitely needs a lock open thing. Also no reason why you can't use pin-less dops (with transfer blocks), what size were they? As you said, it's getting there. Some/most of those things could be fixed/tweaked by a knowledgeable facetor, but it will drive a beginner mad!
Agreed. All of these except for the angle protractor are easily little diy projects. But I don’t see a good workaround. I think they should consider a more simple angle gauge. Instead of a spinning wheel maybe just a pointing arm like MDR and other older style masts. You can’t have an error with those unless you break the arm off. For a budget machine it would be cheaper to make and more reliable.
@@JustinKPrim True, but a keyed angle dial (ie key or pin) could be done. just calibrate with the 45degree adaptor and adjust with the fine angle adjustment. or even a lock nut and locktite. Or replace it with a quadrant. Either will work. I think, though, the price is still a bit high for what it is. For just 50% more in Australia you could get a Halls', and they are much higher quality.
@@TonysGemDesignswithGCS Yes maybe that would work but if you're a brand new Faceter who doesn't know how to cut or know anything about faceting, do you really want to do that? I can understand people buying the $300 machine on Amazon and reworking them but $1200 plus shipping is a lot to drop on the beginning of a DIY project. Could be done but at the same time the sterling machine that I use is also $1200 and works really well.
Looking at the angle dial and the head motion there has to be a gear between them. There is backlash on the gear or it is not tight on the shaft loose set screw.
@@JustinKPrim I was also having a hard time finding a website to look into this faceting machine. I started to look them up and it was today that I saw your videoed review.
I sincerely hope they re-design the relevant components and send another unit for review. A decent quality, entry-level faceting machine is sorely needed.
@@JustinKPrim dear Justin hi. Thanks for your time effort mate. It is appreciated very much. I also would like to have your opinion on KAVI Indian made machine please. Any chance?? Cheers. Cameron.
@@gemmaster9369 they are supposed to send me one to review but I haven’t heard from them in a while. Once they send me a machine I will gladly do a review :)
Good job Justin. There is a Chinese company last year they started to produce a must machine. I have some pictures it looks a like Facetron. If you have an email I could send you the pictures and if you will be interested I could contact the company on your behalf and ask them whether would they like to send their machine for review to you.
@@vectorv750 hi Vector . I hope you have been doing great. Did you send Justin the picture of the Chinese company’s machine? And if yes, what was his opinion on that? Cheers.
@@gemmaster9369 Hi, I did send him. Justin asked if they want him to review their machine they have to send him one, but they refused. Anyway like about two weeks ago I bought one. And let me tell you bro the machine is absolutely fantastic. I haven’t worked on Facetron but from the videos of Facetron that I have seen in the video this machine is much more sophisticated. I opened the case another day it looks like a computer case inside. Just incredible.
Thank you for the review on this I was looking at buying this machine. After your review on the dial slipping & gear sticking I can't afford messing my stones up.
Good honest review Justin and exactly the end result I expected, Like you said hopefully there will be a revised head now that you have given them your opinion on the machine, The simple solution is for them to fix the problems and then they will sell machines because as you stated a good entry level starting price and should sell really well once the problems have been sorted.
I have run into the exact problems with the inexpensive one that I bought , just to see if I wanted to cut stones. A lot of homemade modifications, and I am able to cut basic designs, but I know I will be buying an ultra tech, as soon as possible. And I really expect, my cutting to improve by leaps & bounds, with a more precise machine. Thanks for the review. Keeps me from making another mistake purchase. Love the channel.
It's a pity, because there a lot of novices out there that can't afford the top notch brands. This machine would be and ideal solution. I'm sure there will be improvements in the near future. Very clean and honest review. 👍
I hope they do. I wanted to love this machine
I couldn’t agree more with you, George, but you’re overlooking an almost identically priced machine that’s in far wider use than you might think: the Sterling ST-08 from Sri Lanka. Yes, it’s a handpiece-type faceter, but it really is “the best of the best” of them (makes the Raytech-Shaw look like a toy) and it can be ordered with a 1/10-degree vernier angle adjustment and a cheater, if you’d like. I got one a couple of months back, and it’s been surprising me at every turn - especially as a guy with 35 years of Ultra Tec and 10 years of Fac-Ette GM II experience! Yes, it’s taking awhile to get completely used to, but I think it’d surprise you too…
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To tell you the truth Douglas, I'm like a kid in a candy store when ever I see a new faceting machine regardless of its origin. I'd love to try out the Sterling, I've been using a Bunter for the past 40 years and never went back to a mast machine ever since. If I didn't have the Bunter, I would like to own the Sterling for hand piece and the Ultra Tec VL. for mast machine. Back in our days of starting out, we could walk into a store a try out the machine physically and know what we're buying, unfortunately we can't do that anymore.
Seems it can only be 2 things either the manipulator is sliding on the pivot shaft or the dial mechanism is moving but it looks like to me watching you its the manipulator slipping on the pivot shaft, must be a set screw somewhere to tighten the manipulator to the shaft.
When you began this video, Justin, and I immediately recognized this unit as a cheap knock-off of the Ultra Tec, dressed in Facetron colors, something inside me knew what we were in store for! Thanks for not letting me down 😅
They want to be a good machine and I Do believe that some of these machines are or will be good but unfortunately this one was not. Im not sure if it’s fair to call these a knockoff. Literally every American machine is copied off of other American machines all the way back to 1903. But yes, nothing unique or original here either.
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Justin, the look on your face about halfway through said it all for me. I also think that the plastic mast height mechanism for the fine height adjustment will wear drastically over a short time.
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Easily replaceable, looks like nylon or similar, it's tougher than it looks, if it is.
if the plastic piece is darlin it would last long enough
for what i see in the video in the shaft where the rotating angle wheel is attach to, slips out and that's why the angle wheel dont stay coming back to the same angle, it could be fix creating an external attachment to fix solid the angle wheel to the shaft ,all the time you put down the head and hit the hard stop that wheel is going to move out of angle unless is fix to the main shaft ,they made a bad design but could be fix .
I’d love to have a review on the KMT Kavi 😁
Should be coming in a few months!
Oh, fantastic question. I asked him the same favour. Hopefully we will see his opinion on that machine soon. Cheers.
The two piece gear system in the mast is loose and the gears are not aligned in parallel. The gear teeth may also not be machined with the proper specs and/or designed using the correct alloy metal.
Faceting machines should made by gemcutters. If gemcutter is good, the machine will be good too.
Thanks you for review.
Agree that a gem cutter should have a lot of input in the designing of machines, but top level machinist and their toolsets ultimately will be the ma in factors in a quality faceting machine in a mass production environment.
Very good, thanks
Thank you for seen those mistakes I think ill get my facetron better
When preforming I thought you blurred the stone for some reason then realized it was the opaque drip sheild. 😂
Preforming is NSFW 🫣😂🤣😂
I’m machine my own mast machine and I can’t imagine relying on a gear to transfer angle accurately to the angle indicator. My angle wheel will be directly attached to the pivot shaft. And will be much larger and facing to the rear.
It looks like the angle dial is slipping on the shaft. It does not have enough friction to stay locked into place on the geared shaft. I think if you cycled it up and down slowly without hitting that hard stop the dial will stay. But if thy made the dial have a tapered hole the nut will lock it onto the shaft. Sad to see that thy were so close.
Great review Justin, disappointing that they can't get the basic mechanicals right. Another couple of issues came to mind with me, firstly the white vernier support on the mast, over time this might wear from the movement of the vernier and this would also give rise to accuracy problems. Secondly the index going backwards, this is a horror as if you have to cut a gem design with a spiral, and there are plenty of them, the spiral will go in the wrong direction. I know a competition cutter that got caught with this issue and it was instant disqualification of his gem in the competition. Another thing they need to think about is adding a spring mechanism to the plate that connects with the depth of cut gauge, it would make it easier to change degrees and you wouldn't be fighting to get everything clamped in the right place.
Lots of machines have index wheels that go backwards from Ultratec. That’s really stupid of the judges to not understand that, it’s very shortsighted and is not a reason to disqualify. My Sri Lankan machine also has an index gear that’s backwards from Ultratecs. I don’t even think all the American machines have Their index wheels going exactly the same way though. I could be wrong about that.
Good honest review
I would really like to hear about some of the non mast machines that are around $1200 that work really well.
Slightly more than $1200 but not much: th-cam.com/video/sb_1bHKLpiY/w-d-xo.html
I would love to see a run through of the vevor machines. I know they are cheap, and no one has a review I can find. I'm going to go looking again
I will review one if vevor sends me one but I’m sure it will be a bad review and would not help their sales.
@@JustinKPrim im sure it wouldnt be great. ive had to build my shop using budget equipment. sadly, i think some tols are budget friendly. vevors graver is usable. but idk if their machine is. kinda like a lazer welder. either you have money, or you find another way
Take a look at " Halls machines" Made in far north queensland. They are brilliant. Would love to see a pro cutter do na review on these!!!!!
I’d love to see one in person. I’ve heard good things
The rotating lap wheel looks quite small.
As a beginner I would be absolutely disappointed spending over a thousand dollars on a machine that’s unreliable, why did they not find all the glitches before sending a machine for review , they shot themselves in the foot really , to bad now , I wouldn’t buy one like this , very disappointing. Thanks for your review even though this was a couple of years ago now.👍
I was wondering the same thing. A lot of these companies making machines are full of engineers and no Faceters so maybe they have no way of really understanding and testing what they’ve built.
Hmmm sounds like it needs more design work of machine. Must be first year out. Needs improvement. Good review thank you
that sucks, thanks for the review
please make complete vedio ultra tech fantsy (Concave faceting )
If I can get access to a machine I will.
Just bought this VFM 2.. They have fixed this issue, thy sent me video to prove it,. Why are there no update on this.. Follow Up video..etc thy even have a stronger engine 350W now ;) And a lot of other things has been changed ..
But when you said Speed Up to !! super fast i lost it.. I took me 1 min to find 0-2000 rpm ;)
I haven't seen this update but when I do, I will definitely make a follow up video
Music was a bit much, maybe go with some jazz pr something instead of epic trailer music. Otherwise good video
It is a shame it will not work properly. I have a Saphire machine that i can cut stones very quickly.this would be more accurate,but it has issues.
also i think that the internal gears are set too tight and they get stock that could be fix too, but if they are too loose could create backlash and will give you a bad angle reading also ,unless you use anti backlash gears ,that's why when this company try to be cheap and cut corners and use poor material like plastic and simple designs things dont work well at the end i could said that of of the best made machine i have seen is the polymeric machine .i have 2 old prismatic machines that am restoring and the where well made back them also 40 years ago .
Justin,donate that machine to me,and I will let that machine work,thanks I'd learned a lot too watched you faceted that emerald.God bless.
Any update on if the manufacturer fixed this issue? It's been 2 years since you did this video. I'm curious if anyone heard anything. I'm wanting to get into gem cutting and would love to find a good entry level machine.
Haven’t heard anything.
@@JustinKPrim Bummer. It looks like it had good potential. Thanks for the great vids. 😁
I will bet my bottom dollar the head itself is slipping on the shaft.A set screw I would guess is tightened to keep the head and shaft together as one is it slips the dials will seem to be the problem but I’LL bet its the swing arm and shaft
its because you done a 0.c start then dropped it down. i shouted at the tv if that helps lol
Not sure what you mean
Have you heard anything back about revisions to the head? I notice on their website they only sell the version 1.
This version is version 2. Version 3 is In the works as far as I know. There’s a link in the video description for v2
thanks for this honest review...i was really looking forward to getting this machine for the price and proximity to australia.... now i'll keep looking.... do you have any recommendations for a newbie to purchase a machine for around $2000US ready to go out of box?
For a mast machine no. So far it seems that the Facetron or the Ultratec VL are both the only decent machines sub $4000 USD. For a handpiece machine, yes. The one I use along with all the accessories and laps can be purchased for about $2000. My shopping list is here: drive.google.com/file/d/14NvJ89tXbRh6wIkFRljjQ607qcall20W/view?usp=sharing
@@JustinKPrim thank you for taking time to reply .. appreciate your shopping list
@@JustinKPrim so i got in touch with sterling and they are working on a quote for shipping a machine to australia. I'll be following your videos more closely when i get the machine... i'll be intouch...take your class .. thanks again mate
@@FredGemstone Good luck!
@@JustinKPrim having some difficulty with sterling...they don't take credit card or paypal...my bank is in US and the hassle to pay them is insane.and more expensive. was bank transfer the way you paid for the machine? it's the only way they will accept payment.. i'm at a loss
Would y'all stay there still isn't a good budget or into faceting machine?
The best budget machine is $1300. The handpiece machine from Sterling in Sri Lanka.
I experienced the same problem with the Vesta VFM2. I returned the machine and got a full refund.
They seem to be honorable people.
@@JustinKPrim Yes, they are honorable and kind people. I hope they could improve the machine design.
I'd love to see you review a $250 Vevor ....lol
If someone wants to send one to me, I will!
My goodness be rid of that blasted over dramatic background music.
Yeah that music sucks’ no need for a song in the background
That’s too bad about that machine. You would think a mechanical device would be accurate 😂
Yes I was sad. I wanted it to be great.
@@JustinKPrim yeah sad maybe there’s a way to fix it or replace that internal gear or something
the music is a distraction!
Damn thought you were gonna cut something. You get side tracked. No real organized review
I was planning to finish a stone but the machine was so bad I couldn't.
Sounds like not worth the money you pay
I'd be pissed.......... shame
Your music is weird and loud lol 😂 but nice info man’ looks like with some adjustments could be great
These honest reviews are great! Its no budget-level machine but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Dreamer by Daniel Hu ✌😁
I don't think I can convince him to give me one but maybe next time I got to Taipei I can spend a day using one. That would be great and Taipei has been calling me.
I am thinking of buying one of these machines and have been assured by the company that this machines have be overhauled and are now 100% can anyone verify this for me I am just starting out and have a tight budget I live north east Scotland and no one to mentor me so I am basically self teaching myself
Good luck. I am very skeptical of the claim.
@@JustinKPrim i haven't ordered lucky enough I seen this vid because I was just away to thanks for getting back to me .
Have you done a review of the Vevor 6"?
No. If someone gives me one I’ll do it but I don’t want to buy that machine.
Hi Justin, what do you think about facetron machine ?
Personally I don’t like it but a lot of people I know use it and do amazing work. I don’t like keyed dops
@@JustinKPrim thank you for your opinion
Perfectly timed video, looking for 1st machine won't be sending $ to Vietnam in a hurry.
Thanks
3:15 "Decimal index devisor thing here" = angle Vernier. Interesting review.The dop holding screw could be replace with a hex head grub screw. the Index wheel issues couldbe fixed with some nail polish of different colors, the index direction thing, other machines have various different directions and index lock positions (top/bottom), it happens. The other problem with the angle changing looks and sounds like two problems. One is what you said, the hard stop locking clamp is not doing it's job. The Halls' Xtra can have a similar issue if it is not done up hard, you get in the habit of hold the moving part of the quill/hard stop, up against the hardstop, and lock it down. Even then a quill drop will sometimes loose angle, just needs practise and a better locking clamp. . The Angle knob/dial seems to need some sort of locking screw/nut, as you said, and firmly locked in place as part of calibrating it (is the 45degree adaptor square? I wonder.). The Index Lever definitely needs a lock open thing. Also no reason why you can't use pin-less dops (with transfer blocks), what size were they?
As you said, it's getting there. Some/most of those things could be fixed/tweaked by a knowledgeable facetor, but it will drive a beginner mad!
Agreed. All of these except for the angle protractor are easily little diy projects. But I don’t see a good workaround. I think they should consider a more simple angle gauge. Instead of a spinning wheel maybe just a pointing arm like MDR and other older style masts. You can’t have an error with those unless you break the arm off. For a budget machine it would be cheaper to make and more reliable.
@@JustinKPrim True, but a keyed angle dial (ie key or pin) could be done. just calibrate with the 45degree adaptor and adjust with the fine angle adjustment. or even a lock nut and locktite. Or replace it with a quadrant. Either will work. I think, though, the price is still a bit high for what it is. For just 50% more in Australia you could get a Halls', and they are much higher quality.
@@TonysGemDesignswithGCS Yes maybe that would work but if you're a brand new Faceter who doesn't know how to cut or know anything about faceting, do you really want to do that? I can understand people buying the $300 machine on Amazon and reworking them but $1200 plus shipping is a lot to drop on the beginning of a DIY project. Could be done but at the same time the sterling machine that I use is also $1200 and works really well.
@@JustinKPrim Yes agree, but am not used to handpiece machines, must have a go some day.
Looking at the angle dial and the head motion there has to be a gear between them. There is backlash on the gear or it is not tight on the shaft loose set screw.
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Hey Justin,
It's been 8 months since you reviewed this faceting machine; Do you know if this angle finder has been corrected?
I haven’t heard that it’s been improved yet but they told me they’re working on it a while ago.
@@JustinKPrim I was also having a hard time finding a website to look into this faceting machine. I started to look them up and it was today that I saw your videoed review.
@@JustinKPrim
I want to buy one, how much is the price of the machine?
@@askndeniz5781 There is a link in the video description.
What grit on the table
I sincerely hope they re-design the relevant components and send another unit for review. A decent quality, entry-level faceting machine is sorely needed.
What glue do you use? Thank you! And sorry for maybe stupid question :)
Loctite 480. Strong but drippy. Be careful
@@JustinKPrim thank you, Justin !
@@JustinKPrim dear Justin hi. Thanks for your time effort mate. It is appreciated very much. I also would like to have your opinion on KAVI Indian made machine please. Any chance?? Cheers. Cameron.
@@gemmaster9369 they are supposed to send me one to review but I haven’t heard from them in a while. Once they send me a machine I will gladly do a review :)
Good job Justin. There is a Chinese company last year they started to produce a must machine. I have some pictures it looks a like Facetron. If you have an email I could send you the pictures and if you will be interested I could contact the company on your behalf and ask them whether would they like to send their machine for review to you.
Yes definitely justinkprim at gmail dot com
@@JustinKPrim Great I will send you the pictures and I also will contact them.
@@vectorv750 hi Vector . I hope you have been doing great. Did you send Justin the picture of the Chinese company’s machine? And if yes, what was his opinion on that? Cheers.
@@gemmaster9369 Hi, I did send him. Justin asked if they want him to review their machine they have to send him one, but they refused. Anyway like about two weeks ago I bought one. And let me tell you bro the machine is absolutely fantastic. I haven’t worked on Facetron but from the videos of Facetron that I have seen in the video this machine is much more sophisticated. I opened the case another day it looks like a computer case inside. Just incredible.
@@JustinKPrim
what is the price of the machine?
Wonderful review great job 👏 👍