Who else wants a FULLDRIVE 2 for LESS than HALF THE PRICE?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Just because it costs less doesn't mean it's worth less. This Joyo Maximum Overdrive is a classic example of how you can get high end tone on a low end budget. Side by side with the Fulltone Fulldrive 2 MOSFET, it's sounds exactly the same, but costs less than half the cost!
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I notice a difference... a difference in my bank account!!!! LOL
FiveStringCommando literally the only difference lol
hahahahahahahahaahha what a "plus" difference :P
Exactly
I am sure that it is perfectly possible to copy the pedal, piggybacking on the time invested in the product development by Fulltone. So do you support copycats? How would you feel if someone copied a song that you had written?
There probably is a difference in the labour conditions for the people producing the pedal. And if the copy pedal is from China, please also take a look at how environmental waste is handled there before making your decision.
Evert Albers just bought the joyo after reading this
3:00 Dan, thank you for being a champion of us working people. I see dudes every weekend playing through a Strymon Big Sky and Strymon Timeline; 2 pedals that alone are more than most of my combined rig. But folks like yourself, Guitar Max Carlisle and Dave Simpson show us all that you can use gear that doesn’t cost very much and just sound incredible.
Joyo makes Real good stuff, i have a few and they do there job just fine, and mine has lasted this long with no problem, ive owned them for at least 5 years i know
Definitely sounds spot on. I'm glad there are companies out there making the exact same gear as the bigger (more expensive) companies. Yet charging half the price and the gear is actually good.
Not gonna lie...Joyo makes some good effects for pretty damn cheap
I've got a Joyo AC Tone pedal that I've been trying to kick off my board for about 4yrs now. Spent hundreds of dollars on "boutique" pedals and I keep coming back to it. Very versatile. Does crunch or soaring leads.
I live in China and did some research. The company name is pronounced Jo-Yo and is based in Shenzhen (a big electronics city in China). I can buy their stuff even cheaper here 😁
Man...that's not fair haha. Quick story that you didn't ask for....I just got back from a 2 week trip to meet some relatives in Tokyo and was pretty bummed that not a single piece of guitar gear is cheaper there. Not only that but you'd have more luck finding vintage MIJ pedals and guitars in the states. Even new MIJ guitars are cheaper in the US. There's a street that has nothing but guitar stores on both sides however, like a guitar mecca, that actually has an insane amount of vintage Fenders and Gibsons. Every store just about was playing John Mayer, but when I asked if they had any chord books of his (thought it'd be cool to have one in japanese) they had no idea who I was talking about lol. This wall of books was massive and I couldn't read any of the labels without pulling each one out to look at the cover so I couldn't just look for it myself. I had to point to the ceiling and weakly sing along to "Stop This Train" so they'd know who I was talking about. Only to hear "Oooh oh, Johnuh Mayuh.....no no.....solly....".
@@longlivegarybusey6409 Speaking certain English words in Japan is crazy, if you say it the correct English way they don't understand you, which is fair enough, but they will understand you if you put on the most racist accent. I had to ask for a "dubaroo chizboorga" in Burger King after a night out, when the words "double cheeseburger" were written on the sign.
Been a FD2 user since it first came out and it is an almost always on pedal. Really like the Comp Cut and Flat Mids settings. Must admit, I'm impressed. My biggest concern would be dependability of the Joyo pedal.
I tried listening to it with headphones
I tried listening to it with phone speakers
I tried listening to it with quality speakers
I tried listening to it with a blindfold
And I cant Tell any difference that would get my inner perfectionist concerned
Holy shit
Picked up a used one for $40 bucks. Really good actually. Better than a tube screamer and stacks well with other distortion pedals.
Hi sorry for commenting randomly. Does the pedal still works fine? Is it durable and worth to get? Thanks
I mean there is a slight difference, but to be absolutely fair i think that joyo actually sounds Better
Man! Thanks for showcasing this for people like me. These sound exactly the same to me, and it looks like I can get it for 30 bucks at the lowest! I was looking at getting an old Fulltone Fulldrive and I probably would never have known about this if not for you, so I really appreciate you saving me this money! You just earned a sub from me!
No better birthday gift than learning about a good affordable pedal! I also appreciate your recommendation for the Uzi at the end! I’d probably get much more use out of that one!
I know I'm old & deaf from 50 years of blowing my ears out but those pedals sounded identical. Excellent video.
Vintage overdrive has never left my board. I was looking into buying a full drive but I didnt realize joyo had made this. Take my money!
it's 100% on my list to buy as my first overdrive (apartment living means i don't even run my amp so i've yet to buy pedals. Just shop and compare them lol).
they sound the same but have an insane price difference, thank you for showing us this pedal in a great side-by-side comparison!
Joyo has a lot of quality pedals. I've been using the Vintage Phaser, Ultimate Drive & Dyna Compressor for a few years now, no problems at all. Sounds great, and the cost is unbeatable.
I had a FD2. Favorite OD I've heard. Sold it (dumb). Bought this so happy again. It is not heavy distortion, for high gain you get a pedal designed for that. I have found that pedals have a sweet spot (or none). I have never heard a pedal with sweet spots both at low and high gain, at least not to my ears.
Can't really hear it. BUT 18v operation would be great... headroom is always a plus.
Omg I want this pedal so badly, that sound is amazing!!!!
Got my FD-2 for 50 bucks. Basically brand new. Telling you guys have connections if you can. I still can’t thank my buddy enough for helping get my first drive pedal for church. (3 years ago lol)
I barely hear a difference, but the fulldrive is like 65 bucks used and is built like a tank.
I love JOYO pedals, I use the Ultimate Drive pedal with my bass and it is amazing. It adds some dirt and grit without losing any bottom end.
Thanks for sharing Dan, I gotta try this pedal out !
I can’t tell the difference. I know there’s audiophiles out there who probably can tell. But I’m not an audiophile. I’ve always been “plug in, sounds good, let’s go.” And this Joyo and all the Joyo R series pedals sound really good.
Thank you for you honest reviews, they really help.
Keep making videos it helps me sooooooo me so much as a musician
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They sound similar…but how to they feel and sound in a “live setting” I love my full drive I’ve tried for years to kick it off my board…from my cold dead hands I say…but this is a good alternative if you don’t feel like shelling out the extra money
You can get FD2's for $100 if you catch them on sale and they also can run off a 18V power supply. The FD3 is now the $150 model.
the JOYO D-SEED is one of the best delays I've used.
I bought a joyo American overdrive and it’s my favorite pedal .
Same here. Sounds awesome! I'm getting a british sound next.
The Fulltone does have more headroom. Headroom in a dirt pedal is a double edged sword ...it gives you a bit more clarity even dynamics ...BUT it kills saturation or in other words sustain. On pedals with the choice of an 18v or 9v adapter I ALWAYS use a 9v because of the sustain!
I listened with headphones and can’t tell the difference. Great job and really great review.
I busted out my Audiotechnica M40x for this and could hear only the slightest difference in some of the chord patterns. I doubt I could hear it with anything else and it was only in the lower chords. The max OD overdrive sounded hairs more compressed but that was about it. Tone = identical. Drive = Nearly identical. I'm sold.
The JOYO pedals I have seen have been direct copies of older classic pedals. They were reasonably well made with good quality components. Where they fell down was in quality control, things like electrolytic capacitors inserted the wrong way round and ICs that had been jolted out of position before, or during, wave soldering and only had half their pins soldered in. And in final assembly where for example foot switches had to be hand wired to PCBs and the wiring was very messy. If the Maximum Overdrive is a direct copy of the Fulldrive 2 it should cope with 18V. The only reason I can think of a direct copy might not is if it had been constructed with lower voltage electrolytic capacitors at points in the circuit where they would be exposed to over voltage when the pedal is run at 18V. Almost all other components used in pedals will withstand 18V.
Well they did make it fit in a smaller enclosure so it’s possible some components were swapped out for smaller ones.
Dude, you’ve sold me!
Been wanting a Fulldrive mosfet for a while now but haven’t been able to set aside the cash. This pedal is the great compromise! Nice review.
I love your channel. Lots of great info. I own a few JOYO pedals and they are great. I also own the Fulltone Fulldrive 3 and it's cool too. The one difference that could be a factor is 'environment'. as in, are you playing an out door gig in extreme heat or cold. That's when things are different. I had a gig in Detroit last summer on a very hot day on an aluminum stage. The stage temp had to be 105 degrees F. Unfortunately, my JOYO pedals did not work at all in the extreme heat. My more expensive pedals did work despite the high stage temp. Hey, I still love JOYO and I will buy from them again. But, the temp factor did affect the operation of the JOYO pedals. But, if you aren't playing a gig in extreme temp conditions the lower priced stuff is great. This is NOT a slam on JOYO , I love my JOYO pedals. Just keep in mind that more expensive components might be more reliable in extreme conditions. ....and once again.....some more expensive pedals might fail in high temps, but, not as likely. Rock on everyone. BE SAFE. LOVE JOYO!!
Good to have you back with another video! Been waiting. Thanks Dan!!
Yep. Sounds the same to me. I'm a big fan of joyo pedals. Their vintage overdrive and sweet baby overdrive sound good too.
Comp cut actually removes the clipping diodes from the circuit, resulting in an uncompressed boost... That's why it's called comp cut. All clipping is compression - just wanted to point out that! It's not a "compressor" mode or something like that.
popping these in here because the latest video's as good as any.
1. having recently acquired my first ever 7 string guitar (ESP LTD M17 made in Vietnam), riffing on that low string (i tuned it to drop A) is SO much fun. Trust me, you're going to want to do a 7 at some point.
2. ever thought about getting into the DIY pedal market? B.Y.O.C seems to do some good stuff.
3. while you are a very consistent player (props to that BTW) a true "fair test" should run a looper or something so we get the exact same sound being played each time, taking out the human variance (at least for tests on pedals and amps, sadly doesn't work for pickup switches). If you already do this, ignore this last point.
1) heck yes I’ll be building a 7 string kit
2) yes I’ve though about building pedals and I will for sure someday
3) yes a popper would be a better comparison, but would also make for a more boring video. I appreciate people who do those comparisons with a looper, but I hate watching those videos, so I opted to just play all the riffs.
If you look at Fulldrive II circuit, it's resistors, caps, transformers, op amps, & diodes. I suppose a component can be so cheap it affects sound or 10% out of tolerance. I find it hard to believe the sound is gonna be that much difference. Build quality & components with mechanical aspect like pots, jacks & switches is another matter.
I could hear it slightly on the lower chords, but only slightly. And to be honest, it's not worth a $100 more. I like Joyo, I have at least one of their pedals. It's been dependable. I'll give the expensive companies credit, because they discovered the tone machine, but they should be able to supply pedals at a more competitive price point imo. Same with guitar companies.
I’m good with it in this case because fulltone doesn’t make this pedal anymore, you have to buy it used, or get the fulldrive 3 which is deferent.
Different*
@@GunsandGuitars You'd think autocorrect would pick up on the difrinse between deferent and different. I mean there so difr...deffer...dipher....uhh...😕
They're not the same. 😎
Joyo is made in China, Fulltone in California. If you think Fulltone could charge what Joyo does, you've got another thing coming. Nor should they.
After seeing this video, I bought the Joyo. And you were right, it sounds amazing!
absolutely loving the new intro and love your videos dan. thanks alot!
Hey Dan nice video, also, what's your 150 amp?
Asking the real questions here.
Epiphone valve jr. I bought it because of all the mods you can do to them, but I’ve been too scared to try lol.
You should make a video about cheap amps!
The Monoprice 15w is under $200 and is basically an all-tube 15 watt JCM clone. For the price it's better built than the Vox AC15 and Blues Jr.
@@GunsandGuitars that's the amp I've wanted for ages, exactly for that same reason. If you ever do mod the amp I'd be very interested in seeing what you need to do!
To me the Fultone sounds a tad brighter, the Joyo slightly flatter that's not to say the Joyo didn't sound good, if I was told there was say £20 difference between the two I'd have the Fultone but, if I was in the market the Joyo would be close to top of the list.
Great demo btw.
In the general the fulltone is a really affordable "American" pedal for what it does. I had one for quite a while. Really really great and there is a large ish amount of used ones.
joyo sounds brighter though
That is the Sound I was Looking for, I can't wait to get my hands on one and try it out with my Brian May Red Special thanks for the Demo. Your Awesome and I love the channel.
I appreciate the research.....and the longer bars so you can appreciate how the pedal reacts to different kind of playing
Keep up the great work. You're helping those of us that aren't able to dedicate a large budget to our gear to still have great sound. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
This new intro is DOPE. Love the fact that you kept the leitmotiv people prefered... That perfectly sticks to your channel ^^
Great video, as always!
I bought one because of this review, absolutely love it. I don't have a Fulltone to compare it to, but the versatility is great, thanks for the review!
and here i am ..... happy with my Mosfet that i got used for 30 Euros . Never in my life did i get such a good deal
They do sound basically the same in this video. My thing is the reliability. I work as a touring musician and the actual full tone pedals just feel bomb proof. I've got an old full-drive 2 (pre mosfet) that is 20 years old and still feels like new. I haven't picked up a joyo yet that feels nearly as indestructible. Might be reliable enough for the average player though.
@Boss_Man_T absolutely. I just think the thing that people miss in these "sounds the same" demos, though, is that you are paying for a lot more than just the "sound". Not all "boutique" pedals are necessarily built super well though, so more money doesn't always mean more reliable either, but in the case of fulltone, I think the build quality/bombproofness is a big part of what makes his pedals that extra bit special.
I can definitely hear a difference on some of the examples but many are almost Identical. That is interesting.
We, those with less money to spend on these wants but not needs sure appreciate the available of abundant cheap and decent pedals.
That’s awesome!! I have been so close to getting the full drive so many times. I want this one now! I have to check out the rest of the new joyo line now too. The trem verb that put out years ago got me into tremolo effect. Can hardly play without it now!
I had to rewind it a few times but on some parts the full tone sounded brighter and on some the maximum you can barely tell the difference or unless the difference on sound was just the way he played each part
I bought my Fulldrive 2 during Black Friday and it was 90 USD brand new. Fantastic overdrive, as well as the Fulltone OCD.
That’s a great deal!
I love my Joyo Vintage Overdrive, but I’ve wanted a little more adjusting. Glad to see you put out a detailed review on the tones for this pedal, picking one up soon !
I want a vintage overdrive too, I’ve heard they are killer
Guns and Guitars I personally love it, I’d be happy to send it over for a review if you’d like !
Not a bad comparison for D.I. Still need to hear how it responds to a proper amp/sm57 setup. I'm listening on my studio headphones and you can hear the front of the note way too much on the Joyo. It could have been the picking. But anyways, yeah I'd go for Joyo price wise over Mosfet.
I could notice a slight difference. Honestly tho, the lower price on the Joyo makes it way better. I’d love to have one.
Dang! That pedal sounds great! Dan, keep up the great work and please keep doing what you're doing. It's amazing to have someone finding these great deals that also play and sound great. I love watching your videos!
Fulltone is made in the USA with American labor. Their quality if first rate. I have several of their pedals and love them.
I couldnt tell the difference. Both sounded great. Another great review Dan!
Yes, exact same tone. Excellent. Speaking of clones try the BUGERA 1990 demos - exact same sounding clone to a tube Marshall at one tenth the cost. Love mine.
But all kidding aside they may sound close but not the same....you may not or I may not or most people may not like the dude but Mike Fuller builds probably THE BEST pedals on the market....I'm very serious cuz I spend alotta cash on BO-tique pedals....oh yeah, and build-wise Fuller's Fulltone pedals are the best.
I picked up a Joyo ultimate od several years ago, for $30 brand-new, works great never had any problem...good looking out for fellow musicians
Great review! I purchased right after watching. Thanks
New intro is great!
Thanks max!
You couldn't be more right That setting does sound exactly the same. I mean you're missing a couple other settings from the more expensive pedal but if that's the one you're targeting anyway (like myself) you're good to go
On the fretwire.com there is an es 335 with diamond f holes. You should buy it and make it look like Dave Grohl's custom es 335. Oh and paint it gold or cherry red. Basically just make a DG 335 replica
Man, that purple les paul is insane, by far my favorite build that you've done. You've inspired me to sand down one of my guitars and have some fun staining it. Oh and I ordered that baroque file to start messing with frets, I wasn't sure about doing that, but your videos give me confidence!
Awe man, building or modifying an axe is fun, i have done 3 strats, sold 2,and kept my first build, its awesome
I agree, both about the guitar and the confidence building.
This video was so good! You came into the new year swinging!
Just ordered this pedal. I believe in the sound and if I can find a good sound for cheaper i do it. I already own a Joyo American pedal and it sounds awesome for my needs.
Hi sorry for commenting randomly. Does both of the pedal still works fine? Is it durable and worth to get? Thanks
Still have it and it Still works awesome!
@@philliphagebusch7243 thank you so much!
This was a great review, and a sick new intro!! Definitely going to be checking out both of these and hopefully purchasing one. Probably the max OD first, it seems more versatile.
@Guns and Guitars I am starting my TL Build. I'm going with a humbucker in the neck, quarter pounder in the bridge, and a bigsby tremolo. I am using one of your links to buy the guitar, and was wanting links to the parts so that I can help support your channel too.
I've been eyeing FD2 for awhile because it's pretty widely used in worship settings, but $150+ has kept me away. $58 however... I may need one of these soon. Thanks, Dan!
I totally agree with you on that logic.just because you pay more you'll get something way better.well they do have to make up some excuse so that we'll buy their expensive product.i have been using joyo since i found out about them.never failed me once.i also have a zombie and its great.
Indeed. Impressive. Good job man and thanks for testing
3:00 exactly! I went into a guitar center and the guy who was “helping” me was a jerk just because I didn’t have the money to buy a $500 guitar!
DiscordMarauder most of the employees at gc are douchebags, I buy a lot of gear and rarely if ever do business with them or Sam Ass
Anyone else notice (AAAH!) that Dan's guitar playing has drastically improved on this clip?
Thanks for noticing!
Truth is, the Fulldrive is really a dolled up Boss SD-1, so there has always been a cheaper alternative, but for anyone who wants to get the exact FR-2 sound and format, this looks like a good choice.
Wow that Joyo pedal sounds WAY better than I expected! I may need to add one of those to my life
I’m loving all the new channel stuff!
I've actually been looking at Fulltone Fulldrive clones and didn't realize Joyo had released a clone of their own! Might need to consider replacing my MojoMojo with this dude since it's got a bit more configuration and an extra boost. Also, I'm fairly sure it's Jo-Yo, as if you're saying 'Yo!' to your friend Joe.
Had a FD2 and found the boost to be useless. It's not a real boost, but rather a gain bump. Doesn't justify the size on the board. A clean boost pedal + your favorite light OD pedal on the board are more versatile. Now what I don't get is why after 10 revisons Mike Fuller hasn't released an OCD with the HP/LP on a footswitch.
It'd be great to take them apart and see how different the internals of these pedals are.
Are they basically the same components and circuit? Surely there's got to be some reason that one is $100 more than the other because they sound pretty much the same.
I’m sure there are some minor differences, like I mentioned in the video, you have to push the Joyo a little harder to get the exact same sound
Lately I am following your tips. Got amazing in ear monitors and I’m just about to order this pedal.
What?!?! Joyo is stepping up their game! Thanks so much for this, Dan! You and GuitarMax have really helped with shaping my tone!
Yes! Guitar max, I love that guy
@@GunsandGuitarsHe is great! I love how, like you, he tries to find affordable gear! I actually just purchased myself a Cab from a company he suggested, Harley Benton, for about $150 including. The thing came with a Celestion Vintage 30!
Great review Dan. I recently have really gotten into pedals and your recommendations have been so good. I'm going to definitely get this Joyo pedal. It has the sound I'm looking for. Great job as always!
Good deal, I might just get one. Thanks for the review.
I have a Boss ME80 - going into a HotRod V4 - Im looking to get better overdrives and distortions. The Boss is OK, but Im thinking I can do better., Might just get the Fulltone Plimsoul again and be done with it. Will the Joyo deliver? Is it NOISY? Joyo's are known to be.
I’m def getting one of those Joyo pedals for my ‘68 silver face Fender Deluxe Reverb amp. Should be a perfect combo! Thanks for the heads up, bro!
Theres a difference but for some people the return may be diminishing. Is it worth the 100 dollar difference? That depends on who your asking!
Love it! Thank you for the review Dan. I think the Jo-Yo is going to be the first pedal I am going to buy, to test out. Great review!
I've lowered my pedal purist standards ever since i bought a behringer sf300 instead of the boss fz2 and they sounded almost exactly the same. Glad to know there's a cheap clone of the fulldrive. Been keeping an eye on that one.
My pedal board is made up of Joyo and Donner pedals (all under $50) and I definitely agree with you. Most if not all the clone pedals are basically the exact same circuits but with maybe slightly cheaper parts or manufacturing processes. I would definitely consider buying this if I feel I need this...which I might...
Very good comparison.... congrats
...greetings from Brazil
is this pedal good as ts9 or sd1 in terms of boosting amp and main drive?
Thanks for the great video, I like the fast cut side-by-side comparisons. I have been hesitant to buy Joyo products because I don't have a fair perception yet of their tone quality and build quality. I might give them a try with this box.
Joyo is ok. As far as Chinese made pedals, they're one of the better ones. Build quality/reliability STILL isn't as good as Fulltone, although tone is certainly close enough. Resale is also much better with Fulltone.
Unfortunately, Fulltone is closing their doors mostly due to cheap knock-offs like Joyo (among others), so as things continue down this road, more American/UK pedal companies will be going out of business.
No one can compete with Chinese product pricing because employee pay & operating costs are much cheaper over there. And I said something similar elsewhere but it's idiocy reading people's comments of "these companies should be priced more competitively...".
Going back to the original point: quality and reliability is not on par with the originals.