Your rabbi is not asking anything new this question was raised many years back and Christian scholars answered it very well. Isaiah 7:14 is about Lord Jesus Christ Dear Friend i will try to answer your question 1) The historical background : The King of the Northern Kingdom(divided Israel) and the King of Siriya asked the King of Judah(Ahaz) to join their coalition to defeat Assyrian king but Ahaz refused so they wanted to dethrone Ahaz and wanted to put a puppet king on the throne of Judah 2) God's interference: Since they wanted to dethrone Ahaz, this attack is an attack on House of David. Since God has promised King David in 2Samuel 7 So God told Isaiah to take his son(remember this) and meet Ahaz 3) Isaiah 7:13;14-16 Is a duel prophecy first Isaiah adressed House of David in verse 14 and yes it got fulfilled in Jesus Christ After that Isaiah adressed Ahaz he showed him his son and said by the time my boy grows the two kingdoms that attacked you will be destroyed. ***to Mr T 1) The word "Betula" is used for widows in the Book of Joel. so betula doesn't represent Virgin in every context 2) In Isaiah 7:14 "Almah" Is used do you know Almah is used for Rebecca (wife of Issac) when servant of Abraham found her. What is she, Mr T. In songs of Solomon it's written like this " Kings Wifes, Concubines and Alamot(virgins). If almah is not virgin they should be either in wifes Or in concubines list why a separate category? 3) You know Septuagint was translated in 235 B.C all the scholars discussed and clearly understood the meaning of the verse they also translated it as virgin you know in 235BC they don't know nothing about Christ. he is not yet born, no Christianity nothing what partiality they have to translate it that way? The 70 Jewish scholars who were involved in the bible translation also referred to as a virgin is the appropriate translation for the Isaiah 7: 14. Do you think you know better grammar then all those language scholars 4) ***** one commonsense question In Isaiah 7:14 it's written that God himself will give you a sign , right If a married woman becomes pregnant is it a sign(wonder) done by God ,or a Virgin becoming pregnant a sign? 😂😂😂
Mashiach is a human being, born in normal fashion of human parents. The only qualification about his origins is that he is a descendant of King David, through the lineage of his son Solomon. From his birth onwards his righteousness will increase continually, and by virtue of his deeds he will merit sublime levels of spiritual perfection.
Dear HrvatskiNoahide 🖊 The Bible is so hard to read. Despite reading the Torah and Judges since childhood, i never ever felt much of any remote understanding of it until Dennis Prager began publishing his Torah commentaries. Now i have at least a kindergarten grasp of it, somewhat 😅 (*As another example, i really couldn't see what is going on or happening in Isaiah until seeing Rabbi Singer's video lecture series) Is there any good Torah commentary you have ever read you might recommend? Also, i looked seriously into buying a popular and huge Torah commentary -- then found out Searching online that the rabbi was Reform. Do you mind if i ask your opinion; is it worth reading a Reform commentary? Apologies if it is in any way inappropriate to ask that Thank you for all your knowledge shared on this forum
@@bigtomboye We are not to rely on anyone else to provide explanations of any part of Torah, whether for Jews or Gentiles, aside from accepted Jewish Torah scholars. These are the Jewish Sages and faithful Orthodox Rabbis, whose responsa and teachings may be cited by laypersons. See The Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, Ask Noah International, 2011, p 28.
@socratesfriend745 Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 7: 1And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz son of Jotham son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin, king of Aram, and Pekah son of Remaliah, king of Israel, marched on Jerusalem to wage war against it, and he could not wage war against it. אוַיְהִ֡י בִּימֵ֣י אָ֠חָז בֶּן־יוֹתָ֨ם בֶּן־עֻזִּיָּ֜הוּ מֶ֣לֶךְ יְהוּדָ֗ה עָלָ֣ה רְצִ֣ין מֶֽלֶךְ־אֲ֠רָם וּפֶ֨קַח בֶּן־רְמַלְיָ֚הוּ מֶֽלֶךְ־יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ יְר֣וּשָׁלִַ֔ם לַמִּלְחָמָ֖ה עָלֶ֑יהָ וְלֹ֥א יָכֹ֖ל לְהִלָּחֵ֥ם עָלֶֽיהָ: 2And it was told to the House of David, saying, "Aram has allied itself with Ephraim," and his heart and the heart of his people trembled as the trees of the forest tremble because of the wind. בוַיֻּגַּ֗ד לְבֵ֚ית דָּוִד֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר נָ֥חָה אֲרָ֖ם עַל־אֶפְרָ֑יִם וַיָּ֚נַע לְבָבוֹ֙ וּלְבַ֣ב עַמּ֔וֹ כְּנ֥וֹעַ עֲצֵי־יַ֖עַר מִפְּנֵי־רֽוּחַ: 3And the Lord said to Isaiah, "Now go out toward Ahaz, you and Shear-Yashuv your son, to the edge of the conduit of the upper pool, to the road of the washer's field. גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָה֘ אֶל־יְשַׁעְיָהוּ֒ צֵא־נָא֙ לִקְרַ֣את אָחָ֔ז אַתָּ֕ה וּשְׁאָ֖ר יָשׁ֣וּב בְּנֶ֑ךָ אֶל־קְצֵ֗ה תְּעָלַת֙ הַבְּרֵכָ֣ה הָֽעֶלְיוֹנָ֔ה אֶל־מְסִלַּ֖ת שְׂדֵ֥ה כוֹבֵֽס: 4And you shall say to him, "Feel secure and calm yourself, do not fear, and let your heart not be faint because of these two smoking stubs of firebrands, because of the raging anger of Rezin and Aram and the son of Remaliah. דוְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֵ֠לָיו הִשָּׁמֵ֨ר וְהַשְׁקֵ֜ט אַל־תִּירָ֗א וּלְבָֽבְךָ֙ אַל־יֵרַ֔ךְ מִשְּׁנֵ֨י זַנְב֧וֹת הָֽאוּדִ֛ים הָֽעֲשֵׁנִ֖ים הָאֵ֑לֶּה בָּֽחֳרִי־אַ֛ף רְצִ֥ין וַֽאֲרָ֖ם וּבֶן־רְמַלְיָֽהוּ: 5Since Aram planned harm to you, Ephraim and the son of Remaliah, saying: היַ֗עַן כִּֽי־יָעַ֥ץ עָלֶ֛יךָ אֲרָ֖ם רָעָ֑ה אֶפְרַ֥יִם וּבֶן־רְמַלְיָ֖הוּ לֵאמֹֽר: 6'Let us go up against Judah and provoke it, and annex it to us; and let us crown a king in its midst, one who is good for us,' ונַֽעֲלֶ֚ה בִֽיהוּדָה֙ וּנְקִיצֶ֔נָּה וְנַבְקִעֶ֖נָּה אֵלֵ֑ינוּ וְנַמְלִ֥יךְ מֶ֙לֶךְ֙ בְּתוֹכָ֔הּ אֵ֖ת בֶּן־טָֽבְאַֽל: 7So said the Lord God, 'Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass. זכֹּ֥ה אָמַ֖ר אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֑ה לֹ֥א תָק֖וּם וְלֹ֥א תִֽהְיֶֽה: 8For the head of Aram is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and in another sixty-five years, Ephraim shall be broken, no longer to be a people. חכִּ֣י רֹ֚אשׁ אֲרָם֙ דַּמֶּ֔שֶׂק וְרֹ֥אשׁ דַּמֶּ֖שֶׂק רְצִ֑ין וּבְע֗וֹד שִׁשִּׁ֚ים וְחָמֵשׁ֙ שָׁנָ֔ה יֵחַ֥ת אֶפְרַ֖יִם מֵעָֽם: 9And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is the son of Remaliah; if you do not believe, it is because you cannot be believed." טוְרֹ֚אשׁ אֶפְרַ֙יִם֙ שֹֽׁמְר֔וֹן וְרֹ֥אשׁ שֹֽׁמְר֖וֹן בֶּן־רְמַלְיָ֑הוּ אִם לֹ֣א תַֽאֲמִ֔ינוּ כִּ֖י לֹ֥א תֵֽאָמֵֽנוּ: 10And the Lord continued to speak to Ahaz, saying, יוַיּ֣וֹסֶף יְהֹוָ֔ה דַּבֵּ֥ר אֶל־אָחָ֖ז לֵאמֹֽר: 11"Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God: ask it either in the depths, or in the heights above." יאשְׁאַל־לְךָ֣ א֔וֹת מֵעִ֖ם יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ הַֽעְמֵ֣ק שְׁאָ֔לָה א֖וֹ הַגְבֵּ֥הַּ לְמָֽעְלָה: 12And Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not test the Lord." יבוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אָחָ֑ז לֹֽא־אֶשְׁאַ֥ל וְלֹֽא־אֲנַסֶּ֖ה אֶת־יְהֹוָֽה: 13And he said, "Listen now, O House of David, is it little for you to weary men, that you weary my God as well? יגוַיֹּ֕אמֶר שִׁמְעוּ־נָ֖א בֵּ֣ית דָּוִ֑ד הַמְעַ֚ט מִכֶּם֙ הַלְא֣וֹת אֲנָשִׁ֔ים כִּ֥י תַלְא֖וּ גַּ֥ם אֶת־אֱלֹהָֽי: 14Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel. ידלָ֠כֵן יִתֵּ֨ן אֲדֹנָ֥י ה֛וּא לָכֶ֖ם א֑וֹת הִנֵּ֣ה הָֽעַלְמָ֗ה הָרָה֙ וְיֹלֶ֣דֶת בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥את שְׁמ֖וֹ עִמָּ֥נוּ אֵֽל: 15Cream and honey he shall eat when he knows to reject bad and choose good. טוחֶמְאָ֥ה וּדְבַ֖שׁ יֹאכֵ֑ל לְדַעְתּ֛וֹ מָא֥וֹס בָּרָ֖ע וּבָח֥וֹר בַּטּֽוֹב: 16For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned." טזכִּ֠י בְּטֶ֨רֶם יֵדַ֥ע הַנַּ֛עַר מָא֥וֹס בָּרָ֖ע וּבָח֣וֹר בַּטּ֑וֹב תֵּֽעָזֵ֚ב הָֽאֲדָמָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אַתָּ֣ה קָ֔ץ מִפְּנֵ֖י שְׁנֵ֥י מְלָכֶֽיהָ:
Sir, with due respect for your zeal, I believe that Matthew is quoting from then available Greek Translation of Old Testament (Septuagint) which was translated some 300 to 200 BCE for the Jewish community in Egypt where Greek was common language of communication. Even before birth of Jesus and Matthew wrote his gospel account. Jewish translators chose the word 'almah' to be translated as 'Virgin' but not as young woman. How to you respond to this in light of translation work not done by Christians but Jewish translators? Only because the OT prophecies were difficult to be handled, they altogether stopped usage of Septuagint. Were Jews of first century not using this translation?
The word Ulmah is also used in Proverbs 30: 19-20. However, in that case, it explicitly refers to "the way of a man with a young woman." The Hebrew word for virgin is pronounced "betulah" and appears nowhere in Isaiah 7, so at the very least, Isaiah is not explicitly referring to a virgin. What is referred to in Isaiah7 as a prediction, is the end of the Assyrian empire and Ephraim, which occurred roughly 600 years before Jesus's time, so the verse probably wasn't a reference to him either.
My mother and grandmother were Jewish, I was raised Lutheran to protect myself and my family. The truth was hidden but Yiddish was spoke I was "rushed" to be circumcised at the correct time! I was admonished that I should NEVER get a tattoo on pain of spiritual death. Long story short I was given a bible around 6-7 years old. I had no home instruction. I read it like I would read "any book" , from cover to cover! It never made any sense to me when I moved to the nt! Two completely different universes! I guessed that maybe I was missing something though it was never shown how. I was taught in church that there was no forgiveness in the ot, that it magically happened at the birth! I always disliked my namesake for his overwhelming EGOCENTRIC audacity, his remarks that he was finishing what their god started. He was always making excuses about money how he paid his own way (through other congregations) that he hated women especially mary. Thanks to you Rabbi and others I now understand why it didn't make any sense! I broke their belief system rules, I read in context, not from memorized passages assigned to "prove" their "truth"! Thank you again Rabbi for your guidance and evidence! Paul (oui 😅)
If Christians do read the entire chapter, they don't read it in Hebrew. I studied Hebrew with a Christian friend who reads her entire Bible every year. When I suggested she read it in Hebrew, she adamantly refused. She said she has her own preferred version. She was afraid to change. 😢
And those that read like that, mostly read it rote! They still read the jZeus narrative backward into Tanakh, ... and refuse to compare Tanakh versus "NT" to spot & toss the differences!
Look how huge Judea was in biblical times. The land promised to the children of Israel vs. the tiny piece of land in modern Israel. Just wait until the end of day. Poor Muslims ain't seen nothing yet
It says that the child will learn to reject good from bad. If that the prophesy for Jesus then it means Jesus was not perfect since there was time when he could not know what is evil or good and made mistakes as all children do
@mikealioto6228 if so WHY DOESN'T SCRIPTURE TELLS US NOT ONE DETAIL OF THE SECOND CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOUR IMPLICATION IS MADE UP TO TRY SOMETHING TO SUPPORT YOUR FALSE BELIEF Read study learn
This passage always confused me. Now I know why. My translation is all wrong. I have had Christians tell me "it doesn't matter which translation you read from" because the same truth is behind it. Wrong. I wasted years in Bible studies, and always had the same question. Why does every Christian come to a different conclusion to the meaning of what is written in plain text? Starting with a modern English translation is the first big problem. Most Christians don't even know this problem exists with ALL their old and modern translated Bibles. They never learned Hebrew beyond a few favorite words
I recently watched the documentary,Finding Mashiach, by Berel Solomon. It is interesting to learn the deep,anxious roots and emotional wait the Jews have for the return of Mashiach. I think, most religious beliefs await some kind of divine intervention to save the world from the chaos we seem to be in. One the striking attributes Berel showed in his film, was his kindness and acceptance of others, from other faiths and non-believers alike. That is one way to attain peace in the world. When I read some of the vitriol and cynical comments here,on both sides of belief, we seem to be far apart in that aspect.
The comments on Rabbi Singers videos I find are usually very positive. The odd comment trying to defend hope in a false messiah usually means they haven’t watched the video. To get to Berel’s (actually Rambam’s) beautiful view of what a works of Moshiach will look like, false religions and false messiahs need to be exposed.
@@themajestyofchassidus8770 I am not a believer just to clear the air,but fascinated by historical traditions. That is an interesting concept you assert,false religions and messiahs need to be exposed? Where do you get that from in Tanakh? My understanding in the Hebrew scriptures, the command is to not heed to false prophets. Moreover, isn't that the work of the Messiah to separate the good from the bad and make everything peaceful? To get to that beautiful view, inciting hatred and division amongst people who believe, whether Jews,Christians or Islam is a formula for a war. And who's got it right? " Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Respectfully. Albert Einstein
Yes, I watched Berel Solomon on that, too. Nicely done! Jews don't try convert people, only share the light, the truth. It's up to everyone to seek. Not everyone needs to convert, & Tanakh is clear that the nations are still there in the 7th millennium, but will serve Gd. But we should leave idols, immorality & hatred, etc. Gd was never happy with sin. Even to be a Noahide, one needs to learn through an Orthodox Rabbi as only they kept custodianship of all these things. Shalom..
I'm B'nei Noach Jew. Incensed puts it mildly. I get deeply offended when Christians play "where's Jesus" with Tanakh. More infuriating is they double down when you point out their mistake. Niether will they check out Rabbis say.
@hrvatskinoahid1048 not all, my Jewish identity comes through maternal line. Not having a Jewish father doesn't change that. I wasn't raised to practice Judaism I didn't have a bar mitzvah. Because of my mother not marrying a Jew I don't belong to a Tribe. Not being as a Jew I was unable to join the Tribe. As Rabbi Zelman at Chabad explained if I had documentation of my lineage I would be accepted into any Chabad Shuel I'd would have to go the process of joining the Tribe. Since all documents have been lost over the last 90 years. Also being 63 and deciding to embrace my heritage finaly I opted to be a B'nei Noach Jew at the Rabbi's suggestion. As he put it "it's all good, no matter which I decide. So I'm a bit of a rare bird, I can argue with Christian Goyim without upsetting the Rabbis.
I hear you - same here, as a former Evangelical, converted to Orthodox Judaism 20+ years ago!! Hang there, and may Hashem continue to bless you and your families!!
The Ebionites adhered to the Torah and used a version of Matthew without the first 2 chapters. They believed that the Messiah Y’shua was born the way we all are. Thank you Rabbi Tovia!
YESHUA is Jesus. You are a bit confused don't try to convince us. Why are you here Hadassah a Jewish name? Why do you even bother to listen to Rabbi Singer who clearly can quote verse for verse the entire gospel as well as prophets and the Torah.
That’s fascinating to me!!In fact, I studied that topic for 20 years and recorded my shocking research in “Jesus’ Biological Father was a Joseph: According to the New Testament” under DS WAGGONER. The Birth Narratives are worded so ambiguously, so vague, that it becomes clear the early church wasn’t describing a Virgin birth. Not by a long shot🇸🇻
@@ataraw.6142 confused? Y’shua is His real Name. I do not use “Jesus,” but yes, I know this. Why am I here listening to Rabbi Singer? Because it’s a free world. He speaks allot of truth, and I can glean some things.
I opened an NT for the first time when I was a child in a hotel room on a family vacation. I read a bit, I got nauseous. I put it back in the drawer face down....so repulsive...
I'm going to have to reread the book of Isaiah. Too many times I've had people tell me read this verse and so on. I read whole chapters or even whole books if that what it takes to fully refamiliarize.
@tookie36 not if it's the Original Testament (Old Testament). It should be based on William Tyndaly's translation, which was originally translated from Hebrew.
@@ProjectSmithTechwouldn't be wise to get a Hebrew translation from the Jews that the language it belongs to. Things can get lost in translation. The Tanach stone edition is pretty good.
The only duel fulfillment can only be in the last days, reversal of what happened in Genesis. And messiah fulfillment. Blessed be The God of Jewish Faith Hashem ✡️.
A being of pure light would take about 100,000 years to get from one side of the Galaxy to the other side of our galaxy. Let that sink in for a moment.... Light is a created thing, with it's own limitations; henceforth is not G-d or a spiritual power worthy of consideration. This reality bothers many people greatly. G-d is beyond all created things.
Absolutely. Creation is on another plain completely!!! We must respect Gd. And to think He dwells on high, yet also among the contrite & lowly of heart, wow!!!
Is the Torah / Tanak , is there a Messiah mentioned? Do thdy believe that there is a Messiah coming in the future? Is that related to the 3rd temple ? Thank U.
Carpathian ashkenazi jew here, this rabbi is one of my favs. You, the other called Mizrahi something ( who is more tanned) and Issamar Ginsberg are my top rabbis💯💯
Same here!!! But, let's thank Gd we've struggled and overcome the deception we were taught, so that we'll really appreciate Truth & never give it up for anything!!! That's huge, and Gd is happy with us, and sees our baby steps out of it, and rejoices over us, praise Gd. Thank Gd for His love & mercy! It's hard having grown up as we did, and Xians think we're wrong, & we don't yet have full Jewish thoughts so don't feel quite right there, either (like we'll never go back to what we had, but we don't yet feel we fit or belong where we know we're headed)... ... but it also keeps us seeing ourselves as both loved / forgiven by Gd, and small at the same time, i.e., in the perfect place in His Hand! Let's use our knowledge to help others out of the awful Xian maze! It happened for a reason. Gd knows & understands why. We can trust Him.
I was raised as a born again Christian and I only ever listened to preachers that told me that they studied the original Greek writings of the "Old Testament" so they knew the imperical truth. These preachers said and still say to this day, "isn't it funny that we Christians know and understand Jewish history BETTER than the Jews". The point being that "Virgin" is not misinterpreted by Matthew! I left Christianity once I realized that no one knows Jewish history and Judaism BETTER than the Jews. Christians unwittingly lie, but even worse, they don't follow Christ, they worship mammon. 🤷. Thank you Rabbi.
A priesthood that continually uses sacrifices to 'cover' sin for all eternity should clue you that the levitic priesthood will have to come to an end if you want to put an end to sin. Otherwise, if you keep a levitic priesthood to cover sin and there is no sin then that priesthood becomes useless. That is why Jesus claimed the Melchizedek priesthood being a onetime sacrifice that removes sin and death in his heavenly kingdom
In Hebrew there is עלם (a young man) and עלמה (a young woman)... So it is the same word for male and female... For example Samuel 1 - chapter 17 v 56 and chapter 20 v22 נו וַיֹּאמֶר, הַמֶּלֶךְ: שְׁאַל אַתָּה, בֶּן-מִי-זֶה הָעָלֶם. ... וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו שָׁאוּל, בֶּן-מִי אַתָּה הַנָּעַר; וַיֹּאמֶר דָּוִד, בֶּן-עַבְדְּךָ יִשַׁי בֵּית הַלַּחְמִי. You can see that king Saul used two different words to describe young David, נער and עלם... , both of them mean a young man... See also in chapter 20...כא וְהִנֵּה אֶשְׁלַח אֶת-הַנַּעַר, לֵךְ מְצָא אֶת-הַחִצִּים: אִם-אָמֹר אֹמַר לַנַּעַר הִנֵּה הַחִצִּים מִמְּךָ וָהֵנָּה, קָחֶנּוּ וָבֹאָה כִּי-שָׁלוֹם לְךָ וְאֵין דָּבָר--חַי-יְהוָה. 21 כב וְאִם-כֹּה אֹמַר לָעֶלֶם, הִנֵּה הַחִצִּים מִמְּךָ וָהָלְאָה--לֵךְ, כִּי שִׁלַּחֲךָ יְהוָה. Once again prince Yonatan uses the words נער, עלם for the same meaning, of a young man
I'm gonna say it: the reason 99% of Christians (those who truly beileve in the dogma) are believers is simply because Jesus is a more beautful and well developed character than anybody else. Better than Moses, David, Elijah, etc....they are in love with a character that was very well crafted. The man probably existed but the myth of his life is objectively fantastic. Everybody likes Jesus, simple as that.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 That's great. I'm just making a sociological and psychological oversimplification of why Christians (and many people in general) are attracted to the myth of the man Jesus.
…especially the women. You know, nowadays the normal man is less than to be desired, for the most part. Jesus gets all the things women wish men were attributed to him. They make him perfectly and exactly what they desire. Then they fall in love with him because no man alive can compare. It is textbook idolatry.
I was just looking up the past couple weeks if there are any dual prophecies in the tenakh or atleast scripture that backs up the notion of dual prophecy. I mean not impossible but it seems we'd have to interject or add to the scriptures to make dual prophecies make sense. However, if anyone does have info about dual prophecies please let me know.
There's no "dual prophecy," the concept doesn't even make sense. In prophecy, the person tells you exactly what's going to happen. Then it happens. It's a specific thing that's easily seen and verified. For example, when Isaiah prophesies that the messiah will bring world peace, we can look and verify it: did anyone bring lasting world peace yet? No, no one did. Therefore, the prophecy hasn't been fulfilled. Once the messiah is here and has fulfilled the prophecy, in this case by bringing about world peace, then it's accomplished. It doesn't then get "fulfilled" again in some other way. How would that even make any sense? It already happened! It's done. If you entertain some non-Biblical notion of "dual prophecy," then where would it end? You could then claim that any prophecy that already has been fulfilled still has more things to fulfill. What sense does that make? Anyone could make up anything they wanted and claim it was just a "dual prophecy" that was now being fulfilled. Practically any event in history could be said to be the fulfillment of a "dual prophecy." I think you can see how ridiculous that is. And not only ridiculous, but very insulting to G-d and the prophets who told us what the *actual* prophecy is. It's like you're saying that's not good enough for you, you want it to mean something else, some private meaning that you're making up that's not even in the text. Kind of disrespectful, to say the least. In the case of 7, that's exactly what xhristianity has done: they claimed that a prophecy that already had been fulfilled hundreds of years before the life of JC was "fulfilled again" by JC. No, the prophecy only refers to what it actually details: a child being born at that time, not some other time, being named Immanuel, and fulfilling the prophecy that Ahaz would be victorious over his enemies. All hundreds of years before JC was even here. So it was already done and fulfilled by the time of JC. It doesn't get fulfilled again later in some different way. There's no "hidden" or "secret" meaning that applies to some later event - it already happened and is over! It's done, end of story. And the specifics in this case don't even apply to JC, because mary named him jeesus, not Immanuel, and because JC supposedly was born perfect and knew the difference between good and evil, while the prophecy clearly specifies that when still a child, immanuel WON'T know the difference between good and evil. That's the entire vadus of the prophecy, in fact! Knowing the difference between good and evil. So how could that possibly apply to JC? The very terms of the prophecy don't even fit, lol. xhristianity just read jeesus into the text - just made up the supposed connection out of thin air - to try to satisfy their JC obsession and pretend it's about JC when it clearly isn't. A "second prophecy" isn't there, it refers only to what it clearly refers to, and that already happened 700 years before JC was even born. Prophecy closed. And that leads to another big problem of the "dual prophecy" notion: xhristianity just throws out and ignores any part of the prophecy that doesn't apply to what they claim is the second part of the "dual prophecy." JC wasn't named Immanuel? No problem! It still refers to him even though it doesn't match! JC didn't have to learn the difference between good and evil because he was already perfect from the start? No problem! We still claim it refers to him even though it doesn't match. We'll just throw out the parts that don't match and say the other parts refer to him because they sort of seem to fit. They do the same thing with 53: just ignore whatever parts don't "fit" and can't be twisted to try to fit. Well, you can't do that, lol. You can't just throw out parts of the Bible or prophecy you don't like that don't fit your narrative. All of it has to apply or else you're just cherry-picking to suit your agenda. That's called intellectual dishonesty. Finally, for another big problem, if you entertain the idea of "dual prophecy," you'd also then have to consider what would prevent anything from being a triple prophecy, or a quadruple prophecy. You'd have to accommodate the idea that any prophecy could have a limitless number of other prophecies "built into" it. It would go on forever, with all fulfilled prophecies still having an infinite number of other "prophecies" still to come. I hope you can see how completely absurd that is, especially when the alleged later "dual prophecies" don't even match the original prophecy, as we just saw in the Isaiah 7 example. It would be a very peculiar way to approach things to say an event that didn't even match all the details of the original prophecy was nevertheless a "fulfillment" of that prophecy, just because we wanted it to be. Of course that's exactly what xhristianity has done, all to try to "prove" its fake story, but that's not how reality works. It would be nice if it did work that way, because then we could claim the Bible referred to anything we wanted to claim it did, even when it didn't match it at all, and in fact xhristianity, and many people generally, have operated that way for 2000 years. They just want to pretend it means whatever they want it to mean, which is even more absurd when we consider that 99% of them don't even read Hebrew, lol. That's just self-serving dishonesty in the extreme.
@@yosefbenavraham Thanks for chiming in. I do agree, as of late I've had a hard time accepting the dual prophecy fulfillment idea due to thr main fact that no where do we ever see God or his prophets imply the prophecies would have a dual meaning...and again if I'm wrong someone can feel free ro correct me. I'm assuming then your position is that you don't subscribe to the new testament at all correct? If so, would you give any credibility to the new testament writings at all or its just all false? Meaning existence of Jesus and the apostles and some of the events.
@@dre5773 Perhaps there's some minor truth here and there - some guy probably existed and wandered around with some wacky ideas, for example - and probably it's mostly false. The theology is obviously all false, if that's what you're referring to. But whether he actually existed or not isn't really relevant, because we already know from Torah that G-d is not a man, that He has no physical form, and that "trinity" is polytheism and paganism, not the monotheism of Torah. We also know that the messiah descends from King David, which JC did not; that he isn't anything other than an ordinary human being, which JC is claimed not to be; that he builds the Temple, which JC didn't do; that he brings world peace, which JC didn't do, and that he brings worldwide knowledge of G-d, which JC didn't do. So no matter how you look at it, it's at best completely irrelevant to anything. A big "who cares?" because why should you care about something that's obviously false and contrary to the teachings of G-d and the prophets in Tanakh? If you follow monotheism, you don't worry about whether Confucius was G-d, right? Because you already know he isn't, lol. It's not possible, because G-d has no form. And therefore it's the same for JC, obviously. No form means no form; it doesn't mean no form except some guy who's an exception, lol. There are no exceptions. So in the main the NT is just a propaganda piece for a false religion that the Bible warns us about not listening to. Whatever the actual conditions, reasons, or motives for it being created, the fact is that it's just another among a slew of "avodah zarah" (alien teachings) that has nothing to do with G-d, the Bible, or monotheism whatsoever. Just "lies, vanity, and things of no profit" inherited from the progenitors of xhristianity (and the culture at large following from that), as Jeremiah calls it. Basically worthless, although ultimately more dangerous than just worthless if (G-d forbid) you believe it, as it promotes pagan idolatry. So ultimately dangerous to one's soul.
Regarding the dual prophecy question could the christians theoretically respond with הא כדאיתא והא כדאיתא? Meaning Alma was literal the first time only. Could that be a logical response?
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“Jesus’ Biological Father was Joseph: According to the New Testament” by DS WAGGONER goes into great detail on this subject. If you’re dealing with family or friends who refuse to hear Isaiah, this book uses New Testament proof that the early church didn’t believe in a Virgin birth. They may refuse to listen to Isaiah or Moshe, but they can’t ignore Matthew or Luke
No matter what the early Xians believed, Deut.32 foretold this enemy - which Paul calls the church - & it's offshoots, all followers of jZeus/Y'shua/Isa, see vs.21 - and that they serve false rocks/gods (vs.31), & Israel mist nit join them, & that their (the enemy's) demise will atone for the Land & People of Israel because of the blood they (the enemy) shed (vs.43). This ties in with the fact that Gd does not accept any proxies, & will not forgive the one using them - see Ex.23:7; Num.35:31-34; Deut.24:16; etc.
The first young woman is in chapter 8. The son of isaia. The son of the prophetess. So there are well two prophecies, because the first child is not called Emmanuel, he is called maher shalal hashbaz. Jesus was called Emmanuel.
Matthew: Mary was a virgin? The baby will be Jewish. Joseph is from Judah, but the legend of the tribe only comes from the father. Jesus cannot be from the tribe of Judah, because Joseph is not the biological father!?
@@Galuppi728 yes,am going to study the jewish culture soon but with this NT teachings..no have been a Christian all my life but I have reached to a stop.have been attacked by demons since 2018,they come and confess but the more I fast and pray the more they mock me.
I have a Tanakh from The Society for Distributing Hebrew Scriptures and in Isaiah 7:14 it says "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. " Is this a corruption?
After Googling, I discovered that the publishers are christian organization that publish and distributes the Hebrew Scriptures to Jewish people. I am returning this ASAP.
👑 Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 5:17-18 [17] Не думайте, что я пришёл отменить Тору или Пророков. Я пришёл не отменить, но исполнить [дополнить до совершенства]. [18] Да, именно! Говорю вам, что до тех пор, пока не исчезнут небеса и земля, даже йуд или черта не исчезнут из Торы, пока не произойдёт всё то, что должно произойти. 🇮🇱 Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 24:11-14 [11] появится множество лжепророков, которые многих введут в заблуждение; [12] и любовь многих охладеет из-за всё большего отдаления от Торы. [13] Но тот, кто продержится до конца, спасётся. [14] И Добрая Весть о Царстве будет провозглашена по всему миру во свидетельство всем язычникам. Тогда и настанет конец. 📜 Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 23:34 [34] Потому я посылаю к вам пророков, мудрецов и книжников* {*учителей Торы } - одних вы убьёте, да, да, казните их на стойках, словно преступников; других будете бить в синагогах и преследовать из города в город. 🔥 Еврейский Новый Завет по Марку 1:15 [15] "Время пришло, Божье Царство близко! Отвернитесь от своих грехов и обратитесь к Богу и верьте Доброй Вести!"
I was told that “Virgin”, back in the old days, simply meant a woman who has yet to have children. If that’s the case, that meant Jesus was born to a virgin if Mary never had other kids. Meanwhile, there’s still a problem. You still don’t worship a Man. ❤
@@socratesfriend745 I side with the Jews. There’s no reason for God to become a human man. If you read your Bible, Jesus is asking why God has forsaken him. Jesus isn’t God and never was. Did God have amnesia? We’d have a big problem if that ever happened. 😆😆😆
If Messiah was to come tomorrow..how will you know he is of the Davidic line? There is no record of the Davidic line now. Will it be revealed magically? Is there anyone who claims they are from the Davidic line, presently? Will he be coming from the Dayan family😊?
Haile Selassie I - Christ the King : "Men were supposed to be equals of living angels who unceasingly sang praises before the eternal God. Had this been so, people would not be divided along the lines of enmity. In truth there is no legitimate reason or good cause which justifies war"
Shalom Rabbi. Please help me with this question a Christian told me. I pointed out the contradictions between the book of acts chapter 9, and the book of acts chapter 23 when in one place it reads that Paul was sent by the high priest and then on chapter 23 it reads that Paul does not know who the high priest is. This was his reply to that: Easy The high priest never wore the high priestly garments outside the temple and Paul by this time have being gone from Jerusalem for over ten years. The Roman’s were accepting the money of the priestly line at the highest bid and we do know that Ananias had 5 sons a son in law and a grandson who were all priest sometime during the first century. With the changes in the Roman Empire and problems in Jerusalem is would be easy for Paul not to know who the high priest is. This is why once he knew who the high priest was he was sorry to have spoken to him in a disrespectful way as it is a command to respect the elders. No contradiction
In Gal.3:14, Paul identifies as Gentile. In Rom.7:9, Paul admits he once wasn't under Torah, i.e., he was Gentile, then came under Torah & found it conjured up desires to sin, in him. Thus, he became an embittered, failed convert, & sought vehemently to take others out of Judaism, too. The entire reason why he pretends to be Jew, Roman, Greek... is to win all of them to pagan, Greek-Roman jZeus, away from Judaism & Torah, & even away from other religions... ... see his hypocricy in 1 Cor.9, where he replaces Gd's Torah with jZeus' "torah"... ... also 2 Cor.3 where he outrightly calls Gd's Torah death, dead & replaced with the torah ("new covenant") of jZeus, and maligning Jews! This is contrary to everything Torah says, e.g., Deut.30:11-20; Isa.44:18 about idolaters which Xians are, not about Jews!). Compare Acts 15:21 where the apostles under Paul's authoritarianism, promise, as per Torah, to obey the elders & their disciples will learn under the elders armt synagogue... , but claim Torah is too difficult (and note: Deut.17:8-13 says to obey the elders/judges), VERSUS Acts 18:7; 19:9 & Phil.3, etc., where they go against their word & take disciples out of Judaism. Paul rejected any possible conversion &/or rabbinic learning he may have started, thus, forfeighting any legal rights to teach Torah & oversee conversions. NT is a bag if mixed, corrupted & sterile seed!!! The fruit is toxic!
If this is explained to them in love and patience they will not listen. Why? Because of their pride. Most would rather believe a lie and stay apart of their like minded tribal communities than have the courage and admit they are wrong. Pride. Best regards.
If the right translation is " young woman, alma" instead of " virgin, betoula" the dual prophecy is still valid. Why ? First in judaism a young woman who is not married is supposed to be virgin. Otherwise do not you gather a pile of stones? Then even if a young woman is not always a virgin, a young virgin can always be called a young woman, an alma. So Mary mother of Jésus was an alma and a betoula, isaiah chapter 7 can be applied to her.
Never! U miss the point! Xian (Roman colanist) lies created so-called "shadows", because it doesn't have to be 100% accurate to be a shadow and can prove any weird thing! BUT, Gd's prophecy is 100%. jZeus doesn't fit it, nor does Mary!
Linguisticly, Matthew 1.23 makes no sens : the word Betulah (found in the Peshitta). This word is used when the blood appears from a young women after a s.xual relation, betulah was the proof she was virgin. Without this proof, we can't say a girl is virgin.
It is very simple, Virgin Mary means that Mary married Youssef, it was verified by 3 other women. At that time in that area (solem and gamora) all other young girls were raped and had lost their virginity, they were called Pagans (Farsi word "paregan" which means riped or torn).
I disagree Christians are familiar with Isaiah 7:14 since many read and study the whole bible at least once every year but they probely have never questioned it believing it refers to yeshua (Jesus)
@@kyleamerica5522 The Jewish Bible with Rashi's commentary is available here: www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
Please pray for me. I have been a Christian, then over to messianic and now I am just so very confused. Not an intellectual at. all. Not saying that to be mean to myself I’m really just not. I don’t know a lick of Hebrew but I do truly want to know the truth and I want to know that I know that it’s the truth. I was allowed into a Torah class last week and felt so intimidated. People seemed so brilliant and I just wanted to fade into the background so they forgot I was there. Funny but also sad & very true. They were very kind, I was just feeling very overwhelmed but I need to find out the truth and be confident that it is the truth.
JennyOSunshine, your path is similar to mine: at 17, a troubled teen who knew nothing of Gd & Bible: radically converted to Protestant Xianity; then Pentecostal, yo-yo roller-coaster ride, then after 31 years left church & a yr later messianic for 9 years. By then I saw enough to toss the jZeus forbidden image. I questioned if Tanakh is also lies, and ran through many religions, looking for one which describes Gd of the Universe. Only Torah helped me live right for Gd. Only Torah is wise, right & fair (Deut.4:7-8). So I stick with Tanakh & Judaism, testing everything against my increasing knowledge of Tanakh. Believe in yourself, & if notnin yourself, then believe in what Gd made, & that He says "even the simple gain wisdom & right-living through Torah"! You are a miracle, a Divine soul able to connect with Gd, able to learn & obey Gd... powerful & mighty to overcome the animalostic instincts of the animal soul. Gd didn't make a mistake! Shalom dear sister & friend! Study the lriestly blessing & receive jt. Study the 13 attributes & receive it. Believe me, I also battled for years, reading Heb like a Gr-1 child. I pressed on. Perseverance is paying off! If u want something valuable, u have to fight to gain it, & fight to keep it. Shalom aleichem!
Maybe the Christian gospel writers wanted to impress the pagans ie Hey look our Hero/god is just like yours . Didn’t some of the Greek and Roman heroes etc were without human fathers ? If what Tovia says is true and it’s very persuasive where does that leave Islam ? Don’t they also say Jesus was born of a virgin ? I was told by a Christian pastor once when I questioned them that the Christian prophecies were historical but also typological ? I also heard the virgin birth stories may have been added later . I’m also wondering if there was a dual Christian intent here ie John the Baptist as part of that chapter of Isaiah and then Jesus the almah /betulah part ?
For what? Who's knocking? jZeus? And what is he saying? "Let me in. Let me in!!!" "Why should I?" "To save u". "From what?" From that what I'll do to u if u don't let me in!" "Huh! No way. You're an imposter! Gd alone saves, Isa.45:21-25. Only by His Sacred Name. He never changed names! Go away, hologram!"
So the Jesus story does not fit with Isaiah chapter 7 nor any other part of the book of Isaiah, nor any other part of the entire Tanakh: 1) There were no two kings plotting against Judah during the purported time of Jesus. 2) There was no virgin mentioned by Isaiah. 3) There was no child during the purported time of Jesus who was getting old enough to understand and eat butter and honey, and having reached an age enabling him to choose evil or good. The events recorded by Isaiah simply do not sound like nor match the Jesus birth story of the NT gospels. [Have I got this right? What else is there?]
Isaiah 7 is 700 years before the time that jesus is claimed to have lived. And yes, jesus isn't found anywhere in tanach but this particular video is on isaiah 7
Virgin Birth is a rightful way to acclaim someone who discovers that some reptiles give birth without a male. That is all there is to it. Like you would say in modern times, Maxwell is the father of Electromagnetism. Like, did electromagnetism start existing after Maxwell?
Ptlomea Cristos ruled kemet in 330 BC. He gave Kemet the gospel of Jesus Christ. They still have the book, but in that book Jesus is black!? Romes Jesus is white!? Which one is it?
Hi.If a man does not have acknowledgement as in acceptance that the Jesus guy from 2000 years was a truth, then its likely that that man ,will not wish to have any grasping of OT prophesis as being linked to Jesus. For duel or even more than duel angles to prophesy, it could be a case where it works only on an individual verse basis. As for virgin birth, it could mean a lady whos first child is by her only having been with one male.Rabbi u have mentioned that another lady other than Mary,had a virgin birth. Virgin birth labelling,may not be negating ,the birth of Christ having no origin persay as in birth being of Holy Spirit. I class Holy Spirit as uncreate.
You're basing the time of the fulfillment of Isaiah 14 upon the previous chapters, but it is being based upon the following chapters. Isaiah 16 the two Kings are the two Kennedys. Isaiah 18 the bee is the killer bee that migrated from Africa to South America and up into the desert regions of the USA pointing to the mid-west like an arrow. Isaiah 21 the young cow symbolizes the new Spirit of the infant of days and the two sheep symbolize the Spirits Lord of hosts and his son. All three Spirits are in the flesh of the man called Immanuel. As a human lives his life he feeds the Spirit or Spirits within him. The name of the young woman who bore and delivered the bastard called Immanuel was Rachel.
Yes, lets concede that alma doesn't mean virgin, it means young woman, in Israel, in a jewish community which stones for fornication and adultery. So how is it a sign that a married woman had a son?
The Masoretic has its fair share of errors as well. The Septuagint for the most part, in my opinion, is a little more accurate. Th Rav's Tanakh is not the same Scroll that sat in Herod's Temple. These are facts.
Hardly! Jews collected 2000 most ancient Tanakh manuscripts from around the globe, and found only some 7 minor spelling differences. This, versus 1000's of huge differences as big as a few chapters differing, between newer "NT" manuscripts. No small spelling error in masoretic text, is going to make anyone lose "salvation" & go to what Xians call "hell". Torah is clear: keep Torah, love Gd, & He will physically look out for u. Sometimes, like Job, u will be tested. Just keep on keeping Torah. The message of Torah/Tanakh is pretty clear!!! It's "NT" that makes for 100's of different interpretations. Best to stay away from it.
@@Galuppi728 Those very same 2000 manuscripts are copies of copies of copies of a the copy that existed during second temple times. Both the Masoretic and the Septuagint are copies of copies. The text the scribes copied and ended up in the present day Tanakh is a copy. I know the scribes are meticulous at recording errors and such, and also are susceptible to making errors in error keeping. It is the nature of proofreading. And today's Tanakh is corrupt, evidence by discrepancies in NT, Septuagint with the Jewish Bible. The fact that they got these discrepancies shows there are altered text unrecorded by Jewish Rabbis. I'm not a Christian, but I do believe it's him. He was definitely a Jew of Jews. On a different note, if YSHU had said that Iran would fire the Fattah ICBM and the missle reentry vehicles would hit Israel INSTEAD of stars falling down, the Jew would have and believed in him.
@Lbf5677 "Duel Prophecy" sounds like a killer Hollywood flick though! 🍿 Two Israelite prophets stage a charity match 🗡- when suddenly the Moabites attack! 🎥
Thank you very much Rabbi.
Thank you Rabbi. You surpass in wisdom any priest, monk or pastor from christianity that I have ever met.
Your rabbi is not asking anything new this question was raised many years back and Christian scholars answered it very well.
Isaiah 7:14 is about Lord Jesus Christ
Dear Friend i will try to answer your question
1) The historical background :
The King of the Northern Kingdom(divided Israel) and the King of Siriya asked the King of Judah(Ahaz) to join their coalition to defeat Assyrian king but Ahaz refused so they wanted to dethrone Ahaz and wanted to put a puppet king on the throne of Judah
2) God's interference:
Since they wanted to dethrone Ahaz, this attack is an attack on House of David. Since God has promised King David in 2Samuel 7
So God told Isaiah to take his son(remember this) and meet Ahaz
3) Isaiah 7:13;14-16
Is a duel prophecy first Isaiah adressed House of David in verse 14 and yes it got fulfilled in Jesus Christ
After that Isaiah adressed Ahaz he showed him his son and said by the time my boy grows the two kingdoms that attacked you will be destroyed.
***to Mr T
1) The word "Betula" is used for widows in the Book of Joel. so betula doesn't represent Virgin in every context
2) In Isaiah 7:14 "Almah" Is used do you know Almah is used for Rebecca (wife of Issac) when servant of Abraham found her. What is she, Mr T.
In songs of Solomon it's written like this " Kings Wifes, Concubines and Alamot(virgins). If almah is not virgin they should be either in wifes Or in concubines list why a separate category?
3) You know Septuagint was translated in 235 B.C all the scholars discussed and clearly understood the meaning of the verse they also translated it as virgin you know in 235BC they don't know nothing about Christ. he is not yet born, no Christianity nothing what partiality they have to translate it that way?
The 70 Jewish scholars who were involved in the bible translation also referred to as a virgin is the appropriate translation for the Isaiah 7: 14. Do you think you know better grammar then all those language scholars
4) ***** one commonsense question
In Isaiah 7:14 it's written that God himself will give you a sign , right
If a married woman becomes pregnant is it a sign(wonder) done by God ,or a Virgin becoming pregnant a sign? 😂😂😂
The two kings of course are representative of Herod and Caesar.
Mashiach is a human being, born in normal fashion of human parents. The only qualification about his origins is that he is a descendant of King David, through the lineage of his son Solomon. From his birth onwards his righteousness will increase continually, and by virtue of his deeds he will merit sublime levels of spiritual perfection.
Mary got pregnant before Joseph married her.
@@mikealioto6228 I wonder how Joseph felt.
Dear HrvatskiNoahide 🖊
The Bible is so hard to read. Despite reading the Torah and Judges since childhood, i never ever felt much of any remote understanding of it until Dennis Prager began publishing his Torah commentaries. Now i have at least a kindergarten grasp of it, somewhat 😅
(*As another example, i really couldn't see what is going on or happening in Isaiah until seeing Rabbi Singer's video lecture series)
Is there any good Torah commentary you have ever read you might recommend?
Also, i looked seriously into buying a popular and huge Torah commentary -- then found out Searching online that the rabbi was Reform. Do you mind if i ask your opinion; is it worth reading a Reform commentary? Apologies if it is in any way inappropriate to ask that
Thank you for all your knowledge shared on this forum
@@bigtomboye I recommend the Torah with Rashi's commentary: www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8165/showrashi/true#lt=primary
@@bigtomboye We are not to rely on anyone else to provide explanations of any part of Torah, whether for Jews or Gentiles, aside from accepted Jewish Torah scholars. These are the Jewish Sages and faithful Orthodox Rabbis, whose responsa and teachings may be cited by laypersons. See The Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, Ask Noah International, 2011, p 28.
Great video Rabbi, you really bring up some excellent points.
You're the best Tovia. I have always enjoyed your videos, and I thank you for spreading the truth.
Hello, he never told you what the sign was.
@socratesfriend745
Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 7:
1And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz son of Jotham son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin, king of Aram, and Pekah son of Remaliah, king of Israel, marched on Jerusalem to wage war against it, and he could not wage war against it. אוַיְהִ֡י בִּימֵ֣י אָ֠חָז בֶּן־יוֹתָ֨ם בֶּן־עֻזִּיָּ֜הוּ מֶ֣לֶךְ יְהוּדָ֗ה עָלָ֣ה רְצִ֣ין מֶֽלֶךְ־אֲ֠רָם וּפֶ֨קַח בֶּן־רְמַלְיָ֚הוּ מֶֽלֶךְ־יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ יְר֣וּשָׁלִַ֔ם לַמִּלְחָמָ֖ה עָלֶ֑יהָ וְלֹ֥א יָכֹ֖ל לְהִלָּחֵ֥ם עָלֶֽיהָ:
2And it was told to the House of David, saying, "Aram has allied itself with Ephraim," and his heart and the heart of his people trembled as the trees of the forest tremble because of the wind. בוַיֻּגַּ֗ד לְבֵ֚ית דָּוִד֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר נָ֥חָה אֲרָ֖ם עַל־אֶפְרָ֑יִם וַיָּ֚נַע לְבָבוֹ֙ וּלְבַ֣ב עַמּ֔וֹ כְּנ֥וֹעַ עֲצֵי־יַ֖עַר מִפְּנֵי־רֽוּחַ:
3And the Lord said to Isaiah, "Now go out toward Ahaz, you and Shear-Yashuv your son, to the edge of the conduit of the upper pool, to the road of the washer's field. גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָה֘ אֶל־יְשַׁעְיָהוּ֒ צֵא־נָא֙ לִקְרַ֣את אָחָ֔ז אַתָּ֕ה וּשְׁאָ֖ר יָשׁ֣וּב בְּנֶ֑ךָ אֶל־קְצֵ֗ה תְּעָלַת֙ הַבְּרֵכָ֣ה הָֽעֶלְיוֹנָ֔ה אֶל־מְסִלַּ֖ת שְׂדֵ֥ה כוֹבֵֽס:
4And you shall say to him, "Feel secure and calm yourself, do not fear, and let your heart not be faint because of these two smoking stubs of firebrands, because of the raging anger of Rezin and Aram and the son of Remaliah. דוְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֵ֠לָיו הִשָּׁמֵ֨ר וְהַשְׁקֵ֜ט אַל־תִּירָ֗א וּלְבָֽבְךָ֙ אַל־יֵרַ֔ךְ מִשְּׁנֵ֨י זַנְב֧וֹת הָֽאוּדִ֛ים הָֽעֲשֵׁנִ֖ים הָאֵ֑לֶּה בָּֽחֳרִי־אַ֛ף רְצִ֥ין וַֽאֲרָ֖ם וּבֶן־רְמַלְיָֽהוּ:
5Since Aram planned harm to you, Ephraim and the son of Remaliah, saying: היַ֗עַן כִּֽי־יָעַ֥ץ עָלֶ֛יךָ אֲרָ֖ם רָעָ֑ה אֶפְרַ֥יִם וּבֶן־רְמַלְיָ֖הוּ לֵאמֹֽר:
6'Let us go up against Judah and provoke it, and annex it to us; and let us crown a king in its midst, one who is good for us,' ונַֽעֲלֶ֚ה בִֽיהוּדָה֙ וּנְקִיצֶ֔נָּה וְנַבְקִעֶ֖נָּה אֵלֵ֑ינוּ וְנַמְלִ֥יךְ מֶ֙לֶךְ֙ בְּתוֹכָ֔הּ אֵ֖ת בֶּן־טָֽבְאַֽל:
7So said the Lord God, 'Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass. זכֹּ֥ה אָמַ֖ר אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֑ה לֹ֥א תָק֖וּם וְלֹ֥א תִֽהְיֶֽה:
8For the head of Aram is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and in another sixty-five years, Ephraim shall be broken, no longer to be a people. חכִּ֣י רֹ֚אשׁ אֲרָם֙ דַּמֶּ֔שֶׂק וְרֹ֥אשׁ דַּמֶּ֖שֶׂק רְצִ֑ין וּבְע֗וֹד שִׁשִּׁ֚ים וְחָמֵשׁ֙ שָׁנָ֔ה יֵחַ֥ת אֶפְרַ֖יִם מֵעָֽם:
9And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is the son of Remaliah; if you do not believe, it is because you cannot be believed." טוְרֹ֚אשׁ אֶפְרַ֙יִם֙ שֹֽׁמְר֔וֹן וְרֹ֥אשׁ שֹֽׁמְר֖וֹן בֶּן־רְמַלְיָ֑הוּ אִם לֹ֣א תַֽאֲמִ֔ינוּ כִּ֖י לֹ֥א תֵֽאָמֵֽנוּ:
10And the Lord continued to speak to Ahaz, saying, יוַיּ֣וֹסֶף יְהֹוָ֔ה דַּבֵּ֥ר אֶל־אָחָ֖ז לֵאמֹֽר:
11"Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God: ask it either in the depths, or in the heights above." יאשְׁאַל־לְךָ֣ א֔וֹת מֵעִ֖ם יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ הַֽעְמֵ֣ק שְׁאָ֔לָה א֖וֹ הַגְבֵּ֥הַּ לְמָֽעְלָה:
12And Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not test the Lord." יבוַיֹּ֖אמֶר אָחָ֑ז לֹֽא־אֶשְׁאַ֥ל וְלֹֽא־אֲנַסֶּ֖ה אֶת־יְהֹוָֽה:
13And he said, "Listen now, O House of David, is it little for you to weary men, that you weary my God as well? יגוַיֹּ֕אמֶר שִׁמְעוּ־נָ֖א בֵּ֣ית דָּוִ֑ד הַמְעַ֚ט מִכֶּם֙ הַלְא֣וֹת אֲנָשִׁ֔ים כִּ֥י תַלְא֖וּ גַּ֥ם אֶת־אֱלֹהָֽי:
14Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel. ידלָ֠כֵן יִתֵּ֨ן אֲדֹנָ֥י ה֛וּא לָכֶ֖ם א֑וֹת הִנֵּ֣ה הָֽעַלְמָ֗ה הָרָה֙ וְיֹלֶ֣דֶת בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥את שְׁמ֖וֹ עִמָּ֥נוּ אֵֽל:
15Cream and honey he shall eat when he knows to reject bad and choose good. טוחֶמְאָ֥ה וּדְבַ֖שׁ יֹאכֵ֑ל לְדַעְתּ֛וֹ מָא֥וֹס בָּרָ֖ע וּבָח֥וֹר בַּטּֽוֹב:
16For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned." טזכִּ֠י בְּטֶ֨רֶם יֵדַ֥ע הַנַּ֛עַר מָא֥וֹס בָּרָ֖ע וּבָח֣וֹר בַּטּ֑וֹב תֵּֽעָזֵ֚ב הָֽאֲדָמָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אַתָּ֣ה קָ֔ץ מִפְּנֵ֖י שְׁנֵ֥י מְלָכֶֽיהָ:
Context changes everything!
Sir, with due respect for your zeal, I believe that Matthew is quoting from then available Greek Translation of Old Testament (Septuagint) which was translated some 300 to 200 BCE for the Jewish community in Egypt where Greek was common language of communication. Even before birth of Jesus and Matthew wrote his gospel account.
Jewish translators chose the word 'almah' to be translated as 'Virgin' but not as young woman. How to you respond to this in light of translation work not done by Christians but Jewish translators?
Only because the OT prophecies were difficult to be handled, they altogether stopped usage of Septuagint. Were Jews of first century not using this translation?
The word Ulmah is also used in Proverbs 30: 19-20. However, in that case, it explicitly refers to "the way of a man with a young woman." The Hebrew word for virgin is pronounced "betulah" and appears nowhere in Isaiah 7, so at the very least, Isaiah is not explicitly referring to a virgin. What is referred to in Isaiah7 as a prediction, is the end of the Assyrian empire and Ephraim, which occurred roughly 600 years before Jesus's time, so the verse probably wasn't a reference to him either.
Fantastic video and information
My mother and grandmother were Jewish, I was raised Lutheran to protect myself and my family. The truth was hidden but Yiddish was spoke I was "rushed" to be circumcised at the correct time! I was admonished that I should NEVER get a tattoo on pain of spiritual death. Long story short I was given a bible around 6-7 years old. I had no home instruction. I read it like I would read "any book" , from cover to cover! It never made any sense to me when I moved to the nt! Two completely different universes! I guessed that maybe I was missing something though it was never shown how. I was taught in church that there was no forgiveness in the ot, that it magically happened at the birth! I always disliked my namesake for his overwhelming EGOCENTRIC audacity, his remarks that he was finishing what their god started. He was always making excuses about money how he paid his own way (through other congregations) that he hated women especially mary. Thanks to you Rabbi and others I now understand why it didn't make any sense! I broke their belief system rules, I read in context, not from memorized passages assigned to "prove" their "truth"! Thank you again Rabbi for your guidance and evidence!
Paul (oui 😅)
If Christians do read the entire chapter, they don't read it in Hebrew. I studied Hebrew with a Christian friend who reads her entire Bible every year. When I suggested she read it in Hebrew, she adamantly refused. She said she has her own preferred version. She was afraid to change. 😢
And those that read like that, mostly read it rote! They still read the jZeus narrative backward into Tanakh,
... and refuse to compare Tanakh versus "NT" to spot & toss the differences!
Blessings Rabbi 🙏🏻 you are the coolest ever, your biblical knowledge, and the way you convey the messages 10/10‼️😇🕎✡️🙏🏻
Rabbi-it’s so great hearing you speak.
Always 🕊
Todah Rabah Rabbi Tovia Singer!
I❤ this!
Baruch Hashem! I love Rabbi Singer!
Great video. Drop the mic. Case closed indeed.
Look how huge Judea was in biblical times. The land promised to the children of Israel vs. the tiny piece of land in modern Israel. Just wait until the end of day. Poor Muslims ain't seen nothing yet
It says that the child will learn to reject good from bad. If that the prophesy for Jesus then it means Jesus was not perfect since there was time when he could not know what is evil or good and made mistakes as all children do
لانه إنسان وليس اله
Verse 13 'weary'. Moslems especially choke about God being 'wearied'
so that disproves god being in the flesh.
Obviously it's not talking about pagan Jesus
Christians refuse to READ the whole chapter
There's two conversations going on in Isaiah 7. Because it says she went back to the Lord. That implies a second conversation.
@mikealioto6228 if so WHY DOESN'T SCRIPTURE TELLS US NOT ONE DETAIL OF THE SECOND CONVERSATION
BECAUSE YOUR IMPLICATION IS MADE UP TO TRY SOMETHING TO SUPPORT YOUR FALSE BELIEF
Read study learn
@@glenanleitner2606 it does Isaiah 7 10 again Lord spoke to Azya
@@glenanleitner2606 key word is again it is used in Hebrew Bible.
@@mikealioto6228
And the Lord continued to speak to Ahaz, saying,
יוַיּ֣וֹסֶף יְהֹוָ֔ה דַּבֵּ֥ר אֶל־אָחָ֖ז לֵאמֹֽר:
Correct again Rabbi. Thank you. ❤
Isaiah rules!
This passage always confused me. Now I know why. My translation is all wrong. I have had Christians tell me "it doesn't matter which translation you read from" because the same truth is behind it. Wrong. I wasted years in Bible studies, and always had the same question. Why does every Christian come to a different conclusion to the meaning of what is written in plain text? Starting with a modern English translation is the first big problem. Most Christians don't even know this problem exists with ALL their old and modern translated Bibles. They never learned Hebrew beyond a few favorite words
Rubbish. Matthews understanding was right, as was Simeon and Anna in the temple. It is verified by the Persians turning up to the birth.
❤ thank you rabbi ❤ setting the record straight crystal clear
❤ lets get biblical ❤
'Virgin Daughter Zion despises you.'
Isaiah 37: 22
Let's get Biblically correct! Thanks Rabbi Singer !!!
Between christians & muslims which is half the known world believe in jesus as the christ born of virgin birth united together for jesus pbuh.
Todah Rabba!
I recently watched the documentary,Finding Mashiach, by Berel Solomon. It is interesting to learn the deep,anxious roots and emotional wait the Jews have for the return of Mashiach. I think, most religious beliefs await some kind of divine intervention to save the world from the chaos we seem to be in. One the striking attributes Berel showed in his film, was his kindness and acceptance of others, from other faiths and non-believers alike. That is one way to attain peace in the world. When I read some of the vitriol and cynical comments here,on both sides of belief, we seem to be far apart in that aspect.
The comments on Rabbi Singers videos I find are usually very positive.
The odd comment trying to defend hope in a false messiah usually means they haven’t watched the video.
To get to Berel’s (actually Rambam’s) beautiful view of what a works of Moshiach will look like, false religions and false messiahs need to be exposed.
@@themajestyofchassidus8770 I am not a believer just to clear the air,but fascinated by historical traditions. That is an interesting concept you assert,false religions and messiahs need to be exposed? Where do you get that from in Tanakh? My understanding in the Hebrew scriptures, the command is to not heed to false prophets. Moreover, isn't that the work of the Messiah to separate the good from the bad and make everything peaceful? To get to that beautiful view, inciting hatred and division amongst people who believe, whether Jews,Christians or Islam is a formula for a war. And who's got it right? " Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Respectfully.
Albert Einstein
@@baldeagle-cq2jl The Messiah will fight the wars of God.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 I hope your right,but I have my doubts.
Yes, I watched Berel Solomon on that, too. Nicely done!
Jews don't try convert people, only share the light, the truth. It's up to everyone to seek. Not everyone needs to convert, & Tanakh is clear that the nations are still there in the 7th millennium, but will serve Gd. But we should leave idols, immorality & hatred, etc. Gd was never happy with sin.
Even to be a Noahide, one needs to learn through an Orthodox Rabbi as only they kept custodianship of all these things.
Shalom..
Well, damn. This is one his best vids.
I'm B'nei Noach Jew.
Incensed puts it mildly. I get deeply offended when Christians play "where's Jesus" with Tanakh.
More infuriating is they double down when you point out their mistake. Niether will they check out Rabbis say.
B’nei Noah are children of Noah, i.e. Gentiles, who are non-Jews.
@hrvatskinoahid1048 not all, my Jewish identity comes through maternal line. Not having a Jewish father doesn't change that. I wasn't raised to practice Judaism I didn't have a bar mitzvah. Because of my mother not marrying a Jew I don't belong to a Tribe. Not being as a Jew I was unable to join the Tribe.
As Rabbi Zelman at Chabad explained if I had documentation of my lineage I would be accepted into any Chabad Shuel I'd would have to go the process of joining the Tribe.
Since all documents have been lost over the last 90 years. Also being 63 and deciding to embrace my heritage finaly I opted to be a B'nei Noach Jew at the Rabbi's suggestion. As he put it "it's all good, no matter which I decide.
So I'm a bit of a rare bird, I can argue with Christian Goyim without upsetting the Rabbis.
I hear you - same here, as a former Evangelical, converted to Orthodox Judaism 20+ years ago!! Hang there, and may Hashem continue to bless you and your families!!
@@MrKilroi In Torah law, B'nei Noach refers to Gentiles. If your mother is Jewish, you are obligated to keep the 613 Jewish commandments.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048If your father is an Israelite you obligated to keep the law. Your mother has nothing to do with it.
The Ebionites adhered to the Torah and used a version of Matthew without the first 2 chapters. They believed that the Messiah Y’shua was born the way we all are.
Thank you Rabbi Tovia!
YESHUA is Jesus. You are a bit confused don't try to convince us. Why are you here Hadassah a Jewish name? Why do you even bother to listen to Rabbi Singer who clearly can quote verse for verse the entire gospel as well as prophets and the Torah.
That’s fascinating to me!!In fact, I studied that topic for 20 years and recorded my shocking research in “Jesus’ Biological Father was a Joseph: According to the New Testament” under DS WAGGONER. The Birth Narratives are worded so ambiguously, so vague, that it becomes clear the early church wasn’t describing a Virgin birth. Not by a long shot🇸🇻
@@deborahrodriguez-castinado9536 I only heard of the Ebionites a few months ago. Fascinating! Blessings Deborah!
@@ataraw.6142 confused? Y’shua is His real Name. I do not use “Jesus,” but yes, I know this.
Why am I here listening to Rabbi Singer? Because it’s a free world.
He speaks allot of truth, and I can glean some things.
I opened an NT for the first time when I was a child in a hotel room on a family vacation.
I read a bit, I got nauseous.
I put it back in the drawer face down....so repulsive...
I listened to NT readings during Mass throughout childhood.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048I feel for you
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 detox and rehab...
difficult....
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 I am glad you're no longer there. 👍
@@samfromisrael Yeah, I had an Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic baptism. The mixture created the Antichrist as they feared it would.
Wow, that was Magnificent, thank you, praying for your father rabbi.
I'm going to have to reread the book of Isaiah. Too many times I've had people tell me read this verse and so on. I read whole chapters or even whole books if that what it takes to fully refamiliarize.
But also Christians read a translation from the Greek
Isaiah with Rashi's commentary: www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15932/showrashi/true/jewish/Chapter-1.htm#lt=primary
🎙 BTW Rabbi Singer has quite a serious lecture series on Isaiah in his channel archives 📜
@tookie36 not if it's the Original Testament (Old Testament). It should be based on William Tyndaly's translation, which was originally translated from Hebrew.
@@ProjectSmithTechwouldn't be wise to get a Hebrew translation from the Jews that the language it belongs to. Things can get lost in translation. The Tanach stone edition is pretty good.
The only duel fulfillment can only be in the last days, reversal of what happened in Genesis. And messiah fulfillment.
Blessed be The God of Jewish Faith Hashem ✡️.
A being of pure light would take about 100,000 years to get from one side of the Galaxy to the other side of our galaxy. Let that sink in for a moment.... Light is a created thing, with it's own limitations; henceforth is not G-d or a spiritual power worthy of consideration. This reality bothers many people greatly. G-d is beyond all created things.
Absolutely. Creation is on another plain completely!!! We must respect Gd. And to think He dwells on high, yet also among the contrite & lowly of heart, wow!!!
We are very very close...
👣 Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom
@@HisMessenger-wf5qd was jesus a homosexual?
or was Luke the son of Darth Vader?
@@samfromisrael i shouldn't spoil it, but..... yeah Luke totally *IS*!!! Don't let that stop you from checking it out yourself though!
😉
@@achildofthelight4725 oh noooooooooo
you exorcized a Jew Demon out of my belly
Like in Alien 💀👽👻👹
Where is Sigourney Weaver when you need her?
@@achildofthelight4725 the gayZeus is all about love...
gay love
Is the Torah / Tanak , is there a Messiah mentioned?
Do thdy believe that there is a Messiah coming in the future? Is that related to the 3rd temple ? Thank U.
There are references. See Isaiah 2 - referring to ends of war Isaiah 59:20, Ezekiel 37. There are probably more.
Carpathian ashkenazi jew here, this rabbi is one of my favs. You, the other called Mizrahi something ( who is more tanned) and Issamar Ginsberg are my top rabbis💯💯
I wish I knew this when I was a child.
When you were child you instinctly had a pure and natural faith far better than any religion ! 🙂
Boruch Hashem you know it now...
Same here!!! But, let's thank Gd we've struggled and overcome the deception we were taught, so that we'll really appreciate Truth & never give it up for anything!!! That's huge, and Gd is happy with us, and sees our baby steps out of it, and rejoices over us, praise Gd. Thank Gd for His love & mercy!
It's hard having grown up as we did, and Xians think we're wrong, & we don't yet have full Jewish thoughts so don't feel quite right there, either (like we'll never go back to what we had, but we don't yet feel we fit or belong where we know we're headed)...
... but it also keeps us seeing ourselves as both loved / forgiven by Gd, and small at the same time, i.e., in the perfect place in His Hand!
Let's use our knowledge to help others out of the awful Xian maze! It happened for a reason. Gd knows & understands why. We can trust Him.
You still rock!
✡️ 📜 🎸🤘!!!
I was raised as a born again Christian and I only ever listened to preachers that told me that they studied the original Greek writings of the "Old Testament" so they knew the imperical truth. These preachers said and still say to this day, "isn't it funny that we Christians know and understand Jewish history BETTER than the Jews". The point being that "Virgin" is not misinterpreted by Matthew! I left Christianity once I realized that no one knows Jewish history and Judaism BETTER than the Jews. Christians unwittingly lie, but even worse, they don't follow Christ, they worship mammon. 🤷. Thank you Rabbi.
A priesthood that continually uses sacrifices to 'cover' sin for all eternity should clue you that the levitic priesthood will have to come to an end if you want to put an end to sin. Otherwise, if you keep a levitic priesthood to cover sin and there is no sin then that priesthood becomes useless. That is why Jesus claimed the Melchizedek priesthood being a onetime sacrifice that removes sin and death in his heavenly kingdom
In Hebrew there is עלם (a young man) and עלמה (a young woman)... So it is the same word for male and female... For example Samuel 1 - chapter 17 v 56 and chapter 20 v22
נו וַיֹּאמֶר, הַמֶּלֶךְ: שְׁאַל אַתָּה, בֶּן-מִי-זֶה הָעָלֶם. ... וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו שָׁאוּל, בֶּן-מִי אַתָּה הַנָּעַר; וַיֹּאמֶר דָּוִד, בֶּן-עַבְדְּךָ יִשַׁי בֵּית הַלַּחְמִי.
You can see that king Saul used two different words to describe young David, נער and עלם... , both of them mean a young man...
See also in chapter 20...כא וְהִנֵּה אֶשְׁלַח אֶת-הַנַּעַר, לֵךְ מְצָא אֶת-הַחִצִּים: אִם-אָמֹר אֹמַר לַנַּעַר הִנֵּה הַחִצִּים מִמְּךָ וָהֵנָּה, קָחֶנּוּ וָבֹאָה כִּי-שָׁלוֹם לְךָ וְאֵין דָּבָר--חַי-יְהוָה. 21
כב וְאִם-כֹּה אֹמַר לָעֶלֶם, הִנֵּה הַחִצִּים מִמְּךָ וָהָלְאָה--לֵךְ, כִּי שִׁלַּחֲךָ יְהוָה.
Once again prince Yonatan uses the words נער, עלם for the same meaning, of a young man
I'm gonna say it: the reason 99% of Christians (those who truly beileve in the dogma) are believers is simply because Jesus is a more beautful and well developed character than anybody else. Better than Moses, David, Elijah, etc....they are in love with a character that was very well crafted. The man probably existed but the myth of his life is objectively fantastic. Everybody likes Jesus, simple as that.
Worshiping a person is idolatry.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 That's great. I'm just making a sociological and psychological oversimplification of why Christians (and many people in general) are attracted to the myth of the man Jesus.
…especially the women. You know, nowadays the normal man is less than to be desired, for the most part. Jesus gets all the things women wish men were attributed to him. They make him perfectly and exactly what they desire. Then they fall in love with him because no man alive can compare. It is textbook idolatry.
Not only that but he's instantly recognizable by people of all faiths and ages regardless of the rendering. Why might that be?
Jesus is who he said he is and is seated at the right hand of the father 🕊️ much proof here.
Y gwir yn erbyn y byd
I was just looking up the past couple weeks if there are any dual prophecies in the tenakh or atleast scripture that backs up the notion of dual prophecy. I mean not impossible but it seems we'd have to interject or add to the scriptures to make dual prophecies make sense. However, if anyone does have info about dual prophecies please let me know.
This is the first time I've ever heard of the phrase or concept🤷♂️
@@bigtomboye Yeah it's a Christian term it seems sometimes referred to as dual fulfillment or dual prophecy.
There's no "dual prophecy," the concept doesn't even make sense. In prophecy, the person tells you exactly what's going to happen. Then it happens. It's a specific thing that's easily seen and verified.
For example, when Isaiah prophesies that the messiah will bring world peace, we can look and verify it: did anyone bring lasting world peace yet? No, no one did. Therefore, the prophecy hasn't been fulfilled. Once the messiah is here and has fulfilled the prophecy, in this case by bringing about world peace, then it's accomplished. It doesn't then get "fulfilled" again in some other way. How would that even make any sense? It already happened! It's done.
If you entertain some non-Biblical notion of "dual prophecy," then where would it end? You could then claim that any prophecy that already has been fulfilled still has more things to fulfill. What sense does that make? Anyone could make up anything they wanted and claim it was just a "dual prophecy" that was now being fulfilled. Practically any event in history could be said to be the fulfillment of a "dual prophecy." I think you can see how ridiculous that is. And not only ridiculous, but very insulting to G-d and the prophets who told us what the *actual* prophecy is. It's like you're saying that's not good enough for you, you want it to mean something else, some private meaning that you're making up that's not even in the text. Kind of disrespectful, to say the least.
In the case of 7, that's exactly what xhristianity has done: they claimed that a prophecy that already had been fulfilled hundreds of years before the life of JC was "fulfilled again" by JC. No, the prophecy only refers to what it actually details: a child being born at that time, not some other time, being named Immanuel, and fulfilling the prophecy that Ahaz would be victorious over his enemies. All hundreds of years before JC was even here.
So it was already done and fulfilled by the time of JC. It doesn't get fulfilled again later in some different way. There's no "hidden" or "secret" meaning that applies to some later event - it already happened and is over! It's done, end of story.
And the specifics in this case don't even apply to JC, because mary named him jeesus, not Immanuel, and because JC supposedly was born perfect and knew the difference between good and evil, while the prophecy clearly specifies that when still a child, immanuel WON'T know the difference between good and evil. That's the entire vadus of the prophecy, in fact! Knowing the difference between good and evil. So how could that possibly apply to JC? The very terms of the prophecy don't even fit, lol. xhristianity just read jeesus into the text - just made up the supposed connection out of thin air - to try to satisfy their JC obsession and pretend it's about JC when it clearly isn't. A "second prophecy" isn't there, it refers only to what it clearly refers to, and that already happened 700 years before JC was even born. Prophecy closed.
And that leads to another big problem of the "dual prophecy" notion: xhristianity just throws out and ignores any part of the prophecy that doesn't apply to what they claim is the second part of the "dual prophecy." JC wasn't named Immanuel? No problem! It still refers to him even though it doesn't match! JC didn't have to learn the difference between good and evil because he was already perfect from the start? No problem! We still claim it refers to him even though it doesn't match. We'll just throw out the parts that don't match and say the other parts refer to him because they sort of seem to fit. They do the same thing with 53: just ignore whatever parts don't "fit" and can't be twisted to try to fit.
Well, you can't do that, lol. You can't just throw out parts of the Bible or prophecy you don't like that don't fit your narrative. All of it has to apply or else you're just cherry-picking to suit your agenda. That's called intellectual dishonesty.
Finally, for another big problem, if you entertain the idea of "dual prophecy," you'd also then have to consider what would prevent anything from being a triple prophecy, or a quadruple prophecy. You'd have to accommodate the idea that any prophecy could have a limitless number of other prophecies "built into" it. It would go on forever, with all fulfilled prophecies still having an infinite number of other "prophecies" still to come. I hope you can see how completely absurd that is, especially when the alleged later "dual prophecies" don't even match the original prophecy, as we just saw in the Isaiah 7 example.
It would be a very peculiar way to approach things to say an event that didn't even match all the details of the original prophecy was nevertheless a "fulfillment" of that prophecy, just because we wanted it to be. Of course that's exactly what xhristianity has done, all to try to "prove" its fake story, but that's not how reality works. It would be nice if it did work that way, because then we could claim the Bible referred to anything we wanted to claim it did, even when it didn't match it at all, and in fact xhristianity, and many people generally, have operated that way for 2000 years. They just want to pretend it means whatever they want it to mean, which is even more absurd when we consider that 99% of them don't even read Hebrew, lol. That's just self-serving dishonesty in the extreme.
@@yosefbenavraham Thanks for chiming in. I do agree, as of late I've had a hard time accepting the dual prophecy fulfillment idea due to thr main fact that no where do we ever see God or his prophets imply the prophecies would have a dual meaning...and again if I'm wrong someone can feel free ro correct me.
I'm assuming then your position is that you don't subscribe to the new testament at all correct? If so, would you give any credibility to the new testament writings at all or its just all false? Meaning existence of Jesus and the apostles and some of the events.
@@dre5773 Perhaps there's some minor truth here and there - some guy probably existed and wandered around with some wacky ideas, for example - and probably it's mostly false. The theology is obviously all false, if that's what you're referring to. But whether he actually existed or not isn't really relevant, because we already know from Torah that G-d is not a man, that He has no physical form, and that "trinity" is polytheism and paganism, not the monotheism of Torah.
We also know that the messiah descends from King David, which JC did not; that he isn't anything other than an ordinary human being, which JC is claimed not to be; that he builds the Temple, which JC didn't do; that he brings world peace, which JC didn't do, and that he brings worldwide knowledge of G-d, which JC didn't do.
So no matter how you look at it, it's at best completely irrelevant to anything. A big "who cares?" because why should you care about something that's obviously false and contrary to the teachings of G-d and the prophets in Tanakh? If you follow monotheism, you don't worry about whether Confucius was G-d, right? Because you already know he isn't, lol. It's not possible, because G-d has no form. And therefore it's the same for JC, obviously. No form means no form; it doesn't mean no form except some guy who's an exception, lol. There are no exceptions.
So in the main the NT is just a propaganda piece for a false religion that the Bible warns us about not listening to. Whatever the actual conditions, reasons, or motives for it being created, the fact is that it's just another among a slew of "avodah zarah" (alien teachings) that has nothing to do with G-d, the Bible, or monotheism whatsoever. Just "lies, vanity, and things of no profit" inherited from the progenitors of xhristianity (and the culture at large following from that), as Jeremiah calls it. Basically worthless, although ultimately more dangerous than just worthless if (G-d forbid) you believe it, as it promotes pagan idolatry. So ultimately dangerous to one's soul.
Regarding the dual prophecy question could the christians theoretically respond with
הא כדאיתא והא כדאיתא?
Meaning Alma was literal the first time only.
Could that be a logical response?
The "contact us" information on your website is outdated. Tried two different phone numbers for your company and there's no connection; they don't exist.
“Jesus’ Biological Father was Joseph: According to the New Testament” by DS WAGGONER goes into great detail on this subject. If you’re dealing with family or friends who refuse to hear Isaiah, this book uses New Testament proof that the early church didn’t believe in a Virgin birth. They may refuse to listen to Isaiah or Moshe, but they can’t ignore Matthew or Luke
No matter what the early Xians believed, Deut.32 foretold this enemy - which Paul calls the church - & it's offshoots, all followers of jZeus/Y'shua/Isa, see vs.21 - and that they serve false rocks/gods (vs.31), & Israel mist nit join them, & that their (the enemy's) demise will atone for the Land & People of Israel because of the blood they (the enemy) shed (vs.43).
This ties in with the fact that Gd does not accept any proxies, & will not forgive the one using them - see Ex.23:7; Num.35:31-34; Deut.24:16; etc.
The first young woman is in chapter 8. The son of isaia. The son of the prophetess. So there are well two prophecies, because the first child is not called Emmanuel, he is called maher shalal hashbaz. Jesus was called Emmanuel.
Matthew: Mary was a virgin? The baby will be Jewish. Joseph is from Judah, but the legend of the tribe only comes from the father. Jesus cannot be from the tribe of Judah, because Joseph is not the biological father!?
I wonder too,he can't be the son of Joseph.there is something which is not right about the bible.
@@sulainakyampeire7532U mean, there is a lot not right with "NT".
Tanakh is right. Just, we must read it right & not as per skewed indoctrination!
@@Galuppi728 yes,am going to study the jewish culture soon but with this NT teachings..no have been a Christian all my life but I have reached to a stop.have been attacked by demons since 2018,they come and confess but the more I fast and pray the more they mock me.
I have a Tanakh from The Society for Distributing Hebrew Scriptures and in Isaiah 7:14 it says "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. "
Is this a corruption?
I can't see "בְּתוּלָה" in the Hebrew. So I'm unsure where virgin would be translated from.
After Googling, I discovered that the publishers are christian organization that publish and distributes the Hebrew Scriptures to Jewish people. I am returning this ASAP.
@@mrspkyExactly. Get an Artscroll Stone edition from your local Chabad house, or from Artscroll directly. And read in Hebrew. Shalom!
The child wasn't to be a sign of the Messiah but instead was just an egg timer placing time limits on the prophesy.
The child also was not the sign.
Amazing simplistic analogy you have spoken good sir..Baruch HaShem
@@CMain2 What was the sign?
@@socratesfriend745 the child knowing good from bad at an early age.
so the prophet is about jesus right？
Why Ravs have been silent regarding this for centuries !!!?
We have internet now! Easier to search!
@@Galuppi728
It's not like that.
Rather they don't fear christians anymore !
👑 Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 5:17-18
[17] Не думайте, что я пришёл отменить Тору или Пророков. Я пришёл не отменить, но исполнить [дополнить до совершенства].
[18] Да, именно! Говорю вам, что до тех пор, пока не исчезнут небеса и земля, даже йуд или черта не исчезнут из Торы, пока не произойдёт всё то, что должно произойти.
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Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 24:11-14
[11] появится множество лжепророков, которые многих введут в заблуждение;
[12] и любовь многих охладеет из-за всё большего отдаления от Торы.
[13] Но тот, кто продержится до конца, спасётся.
[14] И Добрая Весть о Царстве будет провозглашена по всему миру во свидетельство всем язычникам. Тогда и настанет конец.
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Еврейский Новый Завет по Матитьягу 23:34
[34] Потому я посылаю к вам пророков, мудрецов и книжников* {*учителей Торы } - одних вы убьёте, да, да, казните их на стойках, словно преступников; других будете бить в синагогах и преследовать из города в город.
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Еврейский Новый Завет по Марку 1:15
[15] "Время пришло, Божье Царство близко! Отвернитесь от своих грехов и обратитесь к Богу и верьте Доброй Вести!"
And then further in Matt.5, jZeus begins illegally changing Gd's Torah, over & over! Mmm, nice one!!! Try again!
There is no doubt in Quran that she was virgin when she was pregnant. Allah bless Maryam...
What I want to know is y Mary was chosen to be the mother of the fake god savior. No one ever talks about that.
Matthew 15:14
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Thank you Rabbi
thanks
God is in control. That's why there are Christians. Because God is in control.
Rabbi, God does as he pleases. He doesn't require your approval regarding how he chooses to reveal himself to non-Jews. Do you understand that???
I was told that “Virgin”, back in the old days, simply meant a woman who has yet to have children. If that’s the case, that meant Jesus was born to a virgin if Mary never had other kids. Meanwhile, there’s still a problem. You still don’t worship a Man. ❤
@@socratesfriend745 I side with the Jews. There’s no reason for God to become a human man. If you read your Bible, Jesus is asking why God has forsaken him. Jesus isn’t God and never was. Did God have amnesia? We’d have a big problem if that ever happened. 😆😆😆
ف الاسلام مريم ولدت المسيح معجزة من الله وارسله الله نبيا لبني اسرائيل @@triplemoonchildangel
Brilliant. Thank you.
If Messiah was to come tomorrow..how will you know he is of the Davidic line? There is no record of the Davidic line now. Will it be revealed magically? Is there anyone who claims they are from the Davidic line, presently?
Will he be coming from the Dayan family😊?
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I read through every verse Christians claim refer to Jesus in the OT. In every case the verse was either taken out of context or mistranslated.
Truth!
Haile Selassie I - Christ the King : "Men were supposed to be equals of living angels who unceasingly sang praises before the eternal God. Had this been so, people would not be divided along the lines of enmity. In truth there is no legitimate reason or good cause which justifies war"
There are my two favorite guys
Shalom Rabbi. Please help me with this question a Christian told me. I pointed out the contradictions between the book of acts chapter 9, and the book of acts chapter 23 when in one place it reads that Paul was sent by the high priest and then on chapter 23 it reads that Paul does not know who the high priest is. This was his reply to that:
Easy
The high priest never wore the high priestly garments outside the temple and Paul by this time have being gone from Jerusalem for over ten years. The Roman’s were accepting the money of the priestly line at the highest bid and we do know that Ananias had 5 sons a son in law and a grandson who were all priest sometime during the first century. With the changes in the Roman Empire and problems in Jerusalem is would be easy for Paul not to know who the high priest is. This is why once he knew who the high priest was he was sorry to have spoken to him in a disrespectful way as it is a command to respect the elders.
No contradiction
In Gal.3:14, Paul identifies as Gentile.
In Rom.7:9, Paul admits he once wasn't under Torah, i.e., he was Gentile, then came under Torah & found it conjured up desires to sin, in him. Thus, he became an embittered, failed convert, & sought vehemently to take others out of Judaism, too.
The entire reason why he pretends to be Jew, Roman, Greek... is to win all of them to pagan, Greek-Roman jZeus, away from Judaism & Torah, & even away from other religions...
... see his hypocricy in 1 Cor.9, where he replaces Gd's Torah with jZeus' "torah"...
... also 2 Cor.3 where he outrightly calls Gd's Torah death, dead & replaced with the torah ("new covenant") of jZeus, and maligning Jews! This is contrary to everything Torah says, e.g., Deut.30:11-20; Isa.44:18 about idolaters which Xians are, not about Jews!).
Compare Acts 15:21 where the apostles under Paul's authoritarianism, promise, as per Torah, to obey the elders & their disciples will learn under the elders armt synagogue... , but claim Torah is too difficult (and note: Deut.17:8-13 says to obey the elders/judges),
VERSUS
Acts 18:7; 19:9 & Phil.3, etc., where they go against their word & take disciples out of Judaism.
Paul rejected any possible conversion &/or rabbinic learning he may have started, thus, forfeighting any legal rights to teach Torah & oversee conversions.
NT is a bag if mixed, corrupted & sterile seed!!! The fruit is toxic!
If this is explained to them in love and patience they will not listen. Why? Because of their pride. Most would rather believe a lie and stay apart of their like minded tribal communities than have the courage and admit they are wrong. Pride. Best regards.
Some will listen though.
@@JennyOSunshine true. Some. Beat regards
Dear rabbi, if I want to marry a jewish virgin girl, do you think I can find one?
thank you, Rabbi.
If the right translation is " young woman, alma" instead of " virgin, betoula" the dual prophecy is still valid. Why ? First in judaism a young woman who is not married is supposed to be virgin. Otherwise do not you gather a pile of stones? Then even if a young woman is not always a virgin, a young virgin can always be called a young woman, an alma. So Mary mother of Jésus was an alma and a betoula, isaiah chapter 7 can be applied to her.
Never! U miss the point!
Xian (Roman colanist) lies created so-called "shadows", because it doesn't have to be 100% accurate to be a shadow and can prove any weird thing!
BUT, Gd's prophecy is 100%. jZeus doesn't fit it, nor does Mary!
Linguisticly, Matthew 1.23 makes no sens : the word Betulah (found in the Peshitta). This word is used when the blood appears from a young women after a s.xual relation, betulah was the proof she was virgin. Without this proof, we can't say a girl is virgin.
God said, They hated me without cause. He does not lie Ever.
Can you give us a hint which scripture you're quoting....thanks!
It is very simple, Virgin Mary means that Mary married Youssef, it was verified by 3 other women. At that time in that area (solem and gamora) all other young girls were raped and had lost their virginity, they were called Pagans (Farsi word "paregan" which means riped or torn).
can't wait to see the Gentile mental gymnastics in the comment section.
I disagree Christians are familiar with Isaiah 7:14 since many read and study the whole bible at least once every year but they probely have never questioned it believing it refers to yeshua (Jesus)
Did they read it in Hebrew and understand it?
I have read the Bible cover to cover, took a long time, but I finally did it a couple years back
Which "Bible" are you referring to?
U need to read Tanakh continually, and memorize it.
Is the JPS TANAK THE BEST to get
No, try the Artscroll tanach Stone Edition
@@MoshehYinon26 what’s the difference and why is it better
@@kyleamerica5522 The Jewish Bible with Rashi's commentary is available here: www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
Most rabbis who have studied the NT know it better than most Christian scholars. It all starts with reading it in the original Hebrew.
YES!!! Well said - THANK YOU! Christians DON'T know what they DON'T KNOW! I know I didn't, until I listened to Rabbis Singer and Skobac!!9
The NT was never written in Hebrew
@u.y.3643 If so, then translation of scripture into Greek introduces many mistranslations, inconsistencies, and deliberate deceptions.
@@kashrut18 exactly
Nt is greek originally
Please pray for me. I have been a Christian, then over to messianic and now I am just so very confused. Not an intellectual at. all. Not saying that to be mean to myself I’m really just not. I don’t know a lick of Hebrew but I do truly want to know the truth and I want to know that I know that it’s the truth.
I was allowed into a Torah class last week and felt so intimidated. People seemed so brilliant and I just wanted to fade into the background so they forgot I was there. Funny but also sad & very true. They were very kind, I was just feeling very overwhelmed but I need to find out the truth and be confident that it is the truth.
JennyOSunshine, your path is similar to mine: at 17, a troubled teen who knew nothing of Gd & Bible: radically converted to Protestant Xianity;
then Pentecostal, yo-yo roller-coaster ride,
then after 31 years left church & a yr later messianic for 9 years.
By then I saw enough to toss the jZeus forbidden image.
I questioned if Tanakh is also lies, and ran through many religions, looking for one which describes Gd of the Universe.
Only Torah helped me live right for Gd. Only Torah is wise, right & fair (Deut.4:7-8). So I stick with Tanakh & Judaism, testing everything against my increasing knowledge of Tanakh.
Believe in yourself, & if notnin yourself, then believe in what Gd made, & that He says "even the simple gain wisdom & right-living through Torah"! You are a miracle, a Divine soul able to connect with Gd, able to learn & obey Gd... powerful & mighty to overcome the animalostic instincts of the animal soul. Gd didn't make a mistake!
Shalom dear sister & friend! Study the lriestly blessing & receive jt. Study the 13 attributes & receive it.
Believe me, I also battled for years, reading Heb like a Gr-1 child. I pressed on. Perseverance is paying off!
If u want something valuable, u have to fight to gain it, & fight to keep it.
Shalom aleichem!
the only truth is in your heart. Jesus is there too. All you have to do is start talking to Him , He will listen!
Maybe the Christian gospel writers wanted to impress the pagans ie Hey look our Hero/god is just like yours .
Didn’t some of the Greek and Roman heroes etc were without human fathers ?
If what Tovia says is true and it’s very persuasive where does that leave Islam ? Don’t they also say Jesus was born of a virgin ?
I was told by a Christian pastor once when I questioned them that the Christian prophecies were historical but also typological ? I also heard the virgin birth stories may have been added later . I’m also wondering if there was a dual Christian intent here ie John the Baptist as part of that chapter of Isaiah and then Jesus the almah /betulah part ?
your heart is the knocker bang bang bang
For what? Who's knocking?
jZeus? And what is he saying?
"Let me in. Let me in!!!"
"Why should I?"
"To save u".
"From what?"
From that what I'll do to u if u don't let me in!"
"Huh! No way. You're an imposter! Gd alone saves, Isa.45:21-25. Only by His Sacred Name. He never changed names! Go away, hologram!"
The four schools of gnostic thought are: Zorasterism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Christianity. Judaism is not a gnostic religion.
So the Jesus story does not fit with Isaiah chapter 7 nor any other part of the book of Isaiah, nor any other part of the entire Tanakh: 1) There were no two kings plotting against Judah during the purported time of Jesus. 2) There was no virgin mentioned by Isaiah. 3) There was no child during the purported time of Jesus who was getting old enough to understand and eat butter and honey, and having reached an age enabling him to choose evil or good. The events recorded by Isaiah simply do not sound like nor match the Jesus birth story of the NT gospels. [Have I got this right? What else is there?]
Isaiah 7 is 700 years before the time that jesus is claimed to have lived. And yes, jesus isn't found anywhere in tanach but this particular video is on isaiah 7
Virgin Birth is a rightful way to acclaim someone who discovers that some reptiles give birth without a male. That is all there is to it. Like you would say in modern times, Maxwell is the father of Electromagnetism. Like, did electromagnetism start existing after Maxwell?
Humans are not reptiles though😂.
@@CMain2 humans are not forces either, but I guess you get the idea 🫡
@@AdamDylanMajor what are you talking about? Lol virgin birth is never possible with humans. Humans do give off electric charges.
Could the Bible be allegory, cosmology, and physiology?
Ptlomea Cristos ruled kemet in 330 BC. He gave Kemet the gospel of Jesus Christ. They still have the book, but in that book Jesus is black!? Romes Jesus is white!? Which one is it?
Hi.If a man does not have acknowledgement as in acceptance that the Jesus guy from 2000 years was a truth, then its likely that that man ,will not wish to have any grasping of OT prophesis as being linked to Jesus.
For duel or even more than duel angles to prophesy, it could be a case where it works only on an individual verse basis.
As for virgin birth, it could mean a lady whos first child is by her only having been with one male.Rabbi u have mentioned that another lady other than Mary,had a virgin birth.
Virgin birth labelling,may not be negating ,the birth of Christ having no origin persay as in birth being of Holy Spirit. I class Holy Spirit as uncreate.
Where is this destruction? I must have missed it.
A siege of Jerusalem by the Assyrians . Don't worry it happened over 2,500 years ago.
You are dead,you are fried..😄indeed ..I just don't understand those people..everything is so simple and clear like clear spring..always bravo rabbi👍💪🔥
Thanks Rabbi. A great explanation of the Isaiah 7:14 and the Matthew 1:23 passages. It's quite clear now.
You're basing the time of the fulfillment of Isaiah 14 upon the previous chapters, but it is being based upon the following chapters.
Isaiah 16 the two Kings are the two Kennedys.
Isaiah 18 the bee is the killer bee that migrated from Africa to South America and up into the desert regions of the USA pointing to the mid-west like an arrow.
Isaiah 21 the young cow symbolizes the new Spirit of the infant of days and the two sheep symbolize the Spirits Lord of hosts and his son. All three Spirits are in the flesh of the man called Immanuel. As a human lives his life he feeds the Spirit or Spirits within him.
The name of the young woman who bore and delivered the bastard called Immanuel was Rachel.
Yes, lets concede that alma doesn't mean virgin, it means young woman, in Israel, in a jewish community which stones for fornication and adultery.
So how is it a sign that a married woman had a son?
The Masoretic has its fair share of errors as well. The Septuagint for the most part, in my opinion, is a little more accurate. Th Rav's Tanakh is not the same Scroll that sat in Herod's Temple. These are facts.
Hardly! Jews collected 2000 most ancient Tanakh manuscripts from around the globe, and found only some 7 minor spelling differences.
This, versus 1000's of huge differences as big as a few chapters differing, between newer "NT" manuscripts.
No small spelling error in masoretic text, is going to make anyone lose "salvation" & go to what Xians call "hell".
Torah is clear: keep Torah, love Gd, & He will physically look out for u. Sometimes, like Job, u will be tested. Just keep on keeping Torah. The message of Torah/Tanakh is pretty clear!!!
It's "NT" that makes for 100's of different interpretations.
Best to stay away from it.
@@Galuppi728 Those very same 2000 manuscripts are copies of copies of copies of a the copy that existed during second temple times.
Both the Masoretic and the Septuagint are copies of copies. The text the scribes copied and ended up in the present day Tanakh is a copy. I know the scribes are meticulous at recording errors and such, and also are susceptible to making errors in error keeping. It is the nature of proofreading. And today's Tanakh is corrupt, evidence by discrepancies in NT, Septuagint with the Jewish Bible. The fact that they got these discrepancies shows there are altered text unrecorded by Jewish Rabbis.
I'm not a Christian, but I do believe it's him. He was definitely a Jew of Jews.
On a different note, if YSHU had said that Iran would fire the Fattah ICBM and the missle reentry vehicles would hit Israel INSTEAD of stars falling down, the Jew would have and believed in him.
Super rebi❤
Something is wrong here!?
Not every prophecy is a duel prophecy
Dual.
So there's no need for two virgins
@Lbf5677 "Duel Prophecy" sounds like a killer Hollywood flick though! 🍿 Two Israelite prophets stage a charity match 🗡- when suddenly the Moabites attack! 🎥
@@Lbf5677there is no mention of any virgin births.
Strangely enough I have started writing a film script of my own.
And yes,duel prophecy sounds awesome.
@@Lbf5677 Awesome! Best wishes for it! 🖊 🎬 🎥
EXCELLENT POINTS!!!! Super!!!
Jesus is the messanger of God
Jesus is a messiah of muslim.