Harvest & Growing In Desert Climate | 2017 Heirloom Tomato Growing
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- We harvest more heirloom tomatoes, see how they look on the inside, and provide a vignette on growing tomatoes in the desert climate.
Zone 10b / San Gabriel Valley / Los Angeles / Southern California / USA
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Hi, I want to further clarify one of remarks made about growing tomatoes in the desert climate. With dry 95F plus weather and FULL SUN, tomato plants are very likely to curl their leaves. However, tomato plants in partial shade are less likely to have curled leaves.
How did your tomato plants set so much fruits under such high temperature? Do those tomatoes you growing have higher temperature tolerance? I live in Malaysia and my tomato plants hardly set any fruits because the temperature here is too high (91F during day time and 73F during nighttime). Any tips for that?
@@jiaminkoh9446 Maybe this is a good tip for you: th-cam.com/video/FvO3-J50BUk/w-d-xo.html. I haven't had the chance to try it yet, but I am anxious to. Good luck.
@@jiaminkoh9446 hey how was your tomatoes? Which varieties did you plant? I have the same climate here in Sri Lanka
I really liked your video, and your tips for growing in the desert especially! I’m growing in Albuquerque in zone 7, and it a MUCH different than non desert 7 areas.
Thanks. You may also like my latest video (2022 April 20th -- Garden Update). I illustrate how I grow the plants depending on where in the garden they are planted.
i bought a Copia tomato plant in 2013 and keep seeds every time I grow it. It's a rare, but beautiful tomato. Other favorites are Great White and Cherokee Purple. Mine do the same leaf curl here in Southern California, it usually happens in hot humid days, I live close to the beach.
Very cool. I am growing the Copia this year and looking forward to setting my eyes on a ripe Copia. There's another mention of 'Great White.' I am going to see about growing that one next year! Very nice weather by the beach :D
I was rooting for the Cherokee Purple, lol. It is one of my favorites. I love Pink Brandywine too. I grew Black Krim one time and it was okay. Your tomatoes all looked really good.
I definitely can taste how the CP is such a popular tomato. It's a well balanced tomato. I also like how it looks. Definitely will grow this one again-- and will try to grow them bushy for more yield. (I had hoped to have another plant start for fall but the thirsty birds scratched at the sprouts. I recently sowed a couple of more but that's mostly a shot in the dark for late fall harvest.) Thanks a bunch, we are fortunate to be having a stellar year. Let's hope we still have some good fortunate left to carry into fall ;D
Your tomatoes look excellent
Nice to see such a beautiful harvest. I am eagerly awaiting my first Cherokee Purple to make it on the plate this year. Of the many varieties I have in the garden, the rabbits and squirrels agree, CPs are the best! Found one almost ready to harvest at the base of a tree where I imagine a squirrel was attempting to get up to the top! Enjoyed the taste test!
I am glad that you enjoyed this video, Donna. It's been a good year so far for tomatoes. Oh the challenges of rabbits and squirrels. I dont miss those days. At my last place there were gophers on top of that. Although I have to knock on wood because every now and then I see the squirrels running across on the power lines. Each time I see them, I hope that they dont come down. Sending good thoughts for fewer tomato plunders. I wish that you get to taste your homegrown CP soon --brian
Great harvest! My climate is continental with humid summers. We get a lot of rain and cloudy days, so a lot different then wahat you have.We have to be watchful for fungal diseases all season long. Last years I had what looked like septoria leafspot, but this summers seems to be a great tomato season!
Thanks, Marta. Your climate sounds challenging. I am happy to hear that you're having a great tomato year as well.
Beautiful tomatoes !! Enjoyed this video very much , thanks :)
Thanks! I am glad that you enjoyed this video. So, I need to get back to your latest video. I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Aunt Ruby's German that you harvested. I am still waiting to taste that one for the first time. I waited too long and now you can see it in the video as the yellow looking tomato hanging on the vine. I am going to let that one ripen to save seed and hopefully I dont miss the mark on the next available tomato :)
Great information, thank you
Nice looking tomatoes Brian. I'm getting ready to start more seeds here too. I'm guessing you will support the sugar babies. Best wishes Bob.
Thanks, Bob. The corn didnt turn out well so the garden fairies gave us these as a consolation. Looking forward to seeing what you're growing next. Yes, sir, I came up with a watermelon support do-hicky out of a coat hanger and a couple of mini paint rollers. This is what it looks like: instagram.com/p/BW76BCrhPuJ/
(If the link doesnt work, I'll be sure to show it in some upcoming video)
Beautiful tomatos! I used to be a desert gardener, and also had great tomatos. One thing, you might try mulching a little deeper. It will help a lot with the cracking.
Thanks! They turned out well and our best year yet. Mulching a little deeper, thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep that in mind.
Never Enough Dirt You're very welcome! :)
Your tomatoes are huge and beautiful. This year was way better for me with tomatoes, but not to your top notch level yet 😉
Yeah! SO exciting. I was only expect each plant to make one good sized tomato but some plants were really eager. Thanks, megabloom!! hehe.
That's great to hear and have seen, Zule. I think the journey is where the fun is. It gives us something to look forward to next time or next year.
I’m in Phoenix and just transplanted my Black Krim & Cherokee Purple. I think I’m way too late because we are already hitting into the 90’s. I think that the temps will be way too hot by the time they start to flower.😢
I’m hoping I can keep them all alive thru the summer and still get some tomatoes when it cools down in fall.
When I see AZ gardeners, it is like looking into the future by two months.
This is an old video of mine (oldie but goodie.) I have since learned a lot about growing tomatoes. Be sure to check my latest videos.
One thing that I found worked well for the warm months is to grow shade plants near the tomato plants. I have used sunflowers, zinnia, cosmos, and winter rye
@@neverenoughdirt yes!!! I have to do shade clothes through the summer and only allow a bit of early morning sun. Last summer, even the Saguaros were dying due to extreme heat so I’m not sure if I’ll have to accept defeat for this tomato season.
Do u sell any of ur seeds? I may need to purchase & seed indoors next month! Off to see those new videos!! Thx for your help Much appreciated!!
@@zoni36 I forget how hot AZ gets. Hopefully it won't be as hot this year. Seed sales, not at the moment.
Just wondering if you have done a video on what you put in your garden raised bed especially for your Tomatoes they look awesome
Hi. I have been meaning to make a video on how I mix my soil. There is a segment in an older video where I mix my soil. th-cam.com/video/IGWg0KiClCY/w-d-xo.htmlm17s Please bare with the video. It is an older video before all the practice in video making ;)
Thank You for all wonderful videos!
Hi. Thank you for your comment. It is a blessing to have Mediterranean climate here in Los Angeles. Very nice to hear from Finland. I enjoy learning about how others grow and adapt to climate as much as I enjoy growing. It always amazes me when I see what gardeners can grow in the upper latitudes. Clearly there is much passion and determination. Thanks for sharing a little bit about your climate and what it takes to get harvests.
200 varieties is truly impressive. The Sungold is one that has peaked my curiosity for the last few years. I keep telling myself to try them out but I always forget to add them to the seed order. Sounds like a very interesting tomato.
While it is possible to grow cherry tomatoes in our fall and winter, my tomato growing has commenced for the year. (I am not a big fan of cherries). That brings us both to be eager for next year's tomato growing :) Thanks again for your comment sharing what tomatoes you grow.
--brian
Greetings.
The second totomato you cut that was dark inside. Is that not considered "rotten"?
I only ask because, as of lately, the beefsteak 🍅 I've gotten from a local grocery. Not only were they brown inside and had a stinky smell. That alone has encouraged me to give growing my own a try.
Much gratitude from Coachella Valley, So Cal.
Tiffany Martinez
Hello, Tiffany, from near Los Angeles.
Definitely!--if you enjoy tomatoes with full flavor and a smooth texture, you have to grow your own! Market tomatoes can either be mealy or acidic or lack flavor. The second tomato I cut was a 'Black Krim.' They are naturally dark like that.
My favorite dark tomato is a 'Black Prince.' Grows well in California and has great flavor and texture.
-brian
Thank you learned a lot from you.
Great harvest. I look forward to growing some later in the year.
Hey Brain, lol and the musical selection... ;-). WOO those were some great size tomatoes.. Ok Brain, so which one of the four did you like the best...? T
Hehe. I went with what I had, lol. We definitely got a great tomato year... If I had to pick only one to grow, it'd be the Cherokee Purple-- for me (a slightly indifferent tomato eater) it's not overly "tomato."
Which tomato had the highest yield? Thanks so much, God bless!
Hi, I have since discovered several things when it comes to growing tomatoes in warm climate like Southern California. In my reply, I will mention varieties that I have grown since this video.
To answer your question right off, the 'Costoluto Genovese' has been the "most productive" tomato. It is primary a cooking tomato but can double as a fresh eating / slicing tomato. We grew two plants in a sunny location and it cranked out an amazing amount! I found that this variety can produce an early season crop. Sowing again in the summer, we can get a fall crop.
Here are other high yielding varieties but do note that they perform best when sowed closer to spring:
'Blue Beech.' It is almost like a 'San Marzano' and 'Oxheart' tomato hybrid. It produces large tomatoes.
'Cherokee Purple' is a large slicing tomato with some getting over a pound in size (by natural thinning or by hand thinning.)
@@neverenoughdirt
That was so kind of you to reply. Thank you so much. I will look into the variety you suggested. May God bless you!
wonderful tomatoes!
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Love the music
Hello....I live in Palm Springs. Most of my tomato seedling aren’t doing very well. I germinated them in a dark closet. My question is do you just plant your tomato seeds in the pot that’s it’s going to grow in for a while and do you just leave the pot in the sun to germinate your seeds. Thanks and your tomato are beautiful.
Hello, Travis, and greetings from LA. If you're germinating tomatoes during this time of year (summer), it can be really tricky because of how hot it is. I found that extra attention is needed to keep the sprouted and growing plants cool (like moving them into shade or indoors when it is over 100F.)
Ideal time to germinate is in the spring (mid March to be safe). As long as temperatures stay above 65F, they will sprout when sowed in a pot and set outside.
To answer your question: I sow seeds in those small and relatively shallow six pack pots. When they get about two to three inches tall, I repot them to a larger pot (those 4-inch pots you may have seen in the video.)
Repotting allows me to sink the plants in more soil. So when I repot, I fill the soil up to the plants' neck. I let them grow to about 5-6 inches and transplant them in the ground. Again, when transplanting, I bury them pretty deep (backfilling soil up to their necks). All of this lets them grow deeper in the soil where the roots are less affected by moisture fluctuations.
If you havent checked out this year's tomato growing, be sure to give those episodes a peak.
th-cam.com/video/W-hGrc7z_eg/w-d-xo.html
The tomatoes are massive.
It's been a great year for tomatoes. Other gardeners throughout the state of California have reported their best years yet. Certainly true for this gardener. I am already looking forward to a new goal of a 1.5 pound tomato :D
Those are some great looking tomatoes! I liked the Cherokee Purple a lot too. I favor milder sweeter tomatoes, so the Black Krim and Les's Sweet Japanese are my favorites so far. I like the Bush Steak for Sandwiches and the San Marzanos for sauce. My brandywines were quite bland, watery, and non-acidic. I don't know what happened with them. The other tomatoes I experimented with were all way too acidic for me, especially the cherry and pear tomatoes.. The big hybrid "sauce tomatoes" have been a disappointment for me. They lacked flavor and were very acidic, which made the size irrelevant.
I'm on my second round of tomatoes down here. Most of them are propagated from suckers from my first round of tomatoes so I could get a head start. The heat has been a real problem for me. When the temps went past 100F, some of my tomatoes started cooking on the vine. Later I also found that some of the tomatoes started germinating early on the inside. That was SURPRISING when I cut them open. I haven't had much trouble with the cracking. I've been watering on a regular schedule with drip and sprinklers and that seems to be working well.
I would say that we have almost identical assessments / tomato preferences. Some of the more acidic tomatoes like Mortgage Lifter and Brandywine are great for burgers or sandwiches. The Brandywine seemed like a more watered down version of the Mortgage lifter (and just a productive). If I had to give one up, it would be the BW. But I like growing it to enjoy the potato leaved plant. Hmm.. your observations adds onto my suspicion and generalization that tomato hybrids lack character. I tend to avoid hybrids unless they "taste like candy." (I've yet to try those tomatoes). I am not a fan of acidic tomatoes either and dont have cherry tomatoes growing.
That direct sun of ours will cook 'em. Where I am at with temps spiking to 104, they are just skirting by. That's great to hear that the watering is good and there is no cracked tomatoes. One of these days, I'll find time to set up drip.
Thank you for your reply.
Absolutely! Happy gardenting. --brian
Great video! More tasting vids please!
Thanks! Sure thing!! Next vid has a tasting ;D
Fantastic job man. I live in the Central Valley of California and wanted to ask if you deal with Tomato Blossom Drop and if so, how did you fix it? Any help is appreciated. Beautiful Robust Tomatoes! Nicely Done!
Thanks. CV, a great place to grow tomatoes. Since this video I have discovered a few things about growing tomatoes in CA. With regard to your question, blossom drop might be the result of imperfect temperatures. They like to it around 70-80F. Warmer temperatures will not result in fruit set.
@@neverenoughdirt thanks that's exactly what I've been reading. thx for your response. Keep up the awesome crops!
What soils and fertilizers do you use in your tomatoes you have wonderful tomatoes
In this part of this video, I share a transplanting tip and show the fertilizer used.
th-cam.com/video/LnRKuopSPCA/w-d-xo.htmlm8s
nice job
Hi. I just came across your video. My wife and I put a small garden for the first time. We're in surprise az. Last May, we planted about 5 tomatoes plants, four peppers and few herbs. Obviously we are new doing this and trying to learn as much possible. Its Aug and we lost almost all our tomatoes plants. Can u please give us few ideas on how to keep the plants alive with this 100+ degrees. Thx
Hello and greets from California. Awesome that you and your wife are gardening. To answer your question:
In the heat of your AZ summers, you will need to shelter your plants with shade cloth. In a pinch, I've used bed sheets. More importantly, train your plants to better tolerate heat by watering them a certain way early on. Do deep and infrequent watering to encourage plants to develop deep roots. Here in my area, I would avoid watering daily. Twice a week or every other day. I also mostly grow with clay in my soil mix. Clay holds water well and the way I grow clay helps out more than it hinders.
A super helpful resource for AZ gardeners is Angela Judd. Find her at Growing in the Garden. She has a website, TH-cam channel, and Instagram account. I hope you stick around too and see what I am up to. -Brian
@@neverenoughdirt hi. Thank you for taking the time. I really appreciate it. We hope we continue learning and have a better garden next spring. 🙂
@@benjamins15779 you're welcome! The garden will get better each year. Especially as you and your soil develops.
Where can I get starter seeds for these tomatoes
I cannot let my tomatoes grow ripe on the plant. The birds get them as soon as they show pink. I would like to grow those mortgage lifter. Maybe I'll use a net over my plants. Right now, I am growing the small cherry tomatoes.
It's always a gamble when the tomatoes are not protected. For me, the hot months make the birds thirsty and I have to be more mindful about putting some kid of protection over the tomato fruit.
Right on, a couple of days ago I sowed some cherry tomatoes.
Never Enough Dirt put water out for them. They're thirsty and will peck to tomatoes for water.
Where do you live in the desert?
Though it feels like desert when we have 105F days, I have since discovered that my climate is Mediterran. I live near Los Angeles, California.
Feed???
Try growing in 120 degrees in Las Vegas a real desert!!!
Yes! Much respect to NV and AZ growers!
I FOLLOW YOUR INSTAGRAM CHANNEL I DIDNT KNOW YOU HAVE A TH-cam ALSO. I JUST STARTED MINE JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.
oh really?! i actually thought that you found my IG through this channel, lol.
Never Enough Dirt lol 😊. I wish i took youtube seriously before. I’ve had youtube for 6 yrs in my other channel but never really took it seriously just now that i am bored.