15:35 Oh no, you totally missunderstood him. Please watch 13:15 again. He described Germany as a paragon of education when it comes to this topic. I had 2 years of history class covering WW2 and it's aftermath while Japan brushes over it like it was a minor inconvenience in history. We have lots of memorials, museums, preserved historic sites etc.
There is a difference between World History and United States History. We actually learn both but one is required and one is not, at least when I was in School. There are always wars going on somewhere and to Me they all look like land grabs.
I was in the USA on the day of the attack, and I have never seen such panic and terror as I saw that day,and I lived through the IRA attacks which were something the Americans could never understand, though they were happy to fund the killers, and yet when it was them they were traumatised
You are really going to go there and compete for atrocities? You act as though you believe like the English and 350 million USA citizens are all alike.. We never walked in your shirs
15:50 "countries like Germany and Japan not wanting to focus on those parts of their history" 1) Rewind and listen. 2) Your German viewers are laughing their asses off.
Many americans (him included) would get nightmares from way WW2 is taught in Germany. Average american wouldn't handle washing gravestones. War documentaries in TV would also traumatize average american. It's completely different world to anyone who lives in countries where that countries dark history is something that should be hidden (US and England as best examples).
@@UltraCasualPenguin That is true. If they showed in the US what is shown to children in Germany in history class would have American patents revolt in the streets bevause of alleged traumatizing thrir children.
For example many classes visit the former concentration camps and see for example the ovens where the dead bodies were burnt. And we watch very traumatic videos, read terrifying letters and books, show horrific original pictures,... There are also survivers speaking live to the children. We have no trigger warnings, as everything about that horrible times is triggering.
in regards to the War of 1812, it's easy for Americans to see it as a win considering the fact that Britain literally had no intention of trying to retake their former colonies. The US declared war on the British. The war was nothing more than Great Britain's way of teaching them a lesson and because they would look weak if they didn't respond - hence the burning of the White House and hence why no one in the UK really cares about it. Amusing for the USA to solidify its national identity from a war it started, failed to actually win and instead allowed things to go back to how things were before the whole thing began. Doesn't matter how significant you guys think Jackson's victory was. The Brits saw this as a minor distraction from annoying neighbours throwing dog poop into their yard whilst dealing with the real threat: Napoleon. Which they did. When you think about how dangerous Napoleon actually was, simply not losing the War of 1812 is not as "bad ass" as you think. In fact, it's kind of embarrassing. It's like starting a fight with a Brit bigger than you whilst he is fighting a Frenchman bigger than him - with you only walking away with a slap, bragging about how the Brit didn't murder you, as he disposes of the corpse of the Frenchman. You won the first war because every major power assisted you. You didn't lose the second because you just were not that important enough for them to really care
They did lose the second though, what happened after waterloo still happened. Last of its troops evacuated Canada in 1814, when you start a war to "free Canadians from tyranny" and you don't free any Canadians from tyranny, it was another 150+ years before Canada left the empire. That's a "loss"
Connor ,who would have thought that when you started making these videos for public consumption that you would have tackled such a complicated and controversial subject with such understanding. You have come such a long way ,I admire your tenacity .
The 1812 war was a total victory for the uk and an utter loss for the USA. You tried to change the borders, and the war ended with the borders being exactly as they were .. We held the line. I call that a win!
Well, the Germans nowadays actually spent a lot of time in school focussing on the Nazi regime, how it influenced German society and how the Nazi regime made the Holocaust possible. They make an actual effort to educate the students, so that something similar will never happen again. Japan just does not treat the period 1931-1945 with the same kind of focus and attention. It must be a cultural thing, it is as if the Japanese are ashamed to deal with their past and instead of dealing with it and learn from it, they just choose to skip the entire period instead as if it never happened.
For the reasons why Japan is so reluctant to acknowledge and atone for their past from 1931 to 1945, I think it has as much to do with the fact that the Allies didn't invade, conquer, occupy, and attempt to deradicalise Japan in the same way they did with Germany and Austria (i.e. de-Nazification).
In fact in Germany and Austria the Nazi time is covered that heavily that many pupils just cannot hear it any more, because it is taught everywhere, in history class, in German class, in English class, in Arts, in Geographie etc.
Can't really blame them. They were just as bad as the Nazis if not worst. I don't think they killed as many as the Nazis but it was the way they went about it. Look up unit 732. Horrendous
That Japan hides the facts about WW2 is absolutely shocking. The biggest mistake USA ever made was invading Irak and we are still paying for that mistake.
@@paulhadfield7909 which, only 34 years after reunification, is endless reasons for European and overseas allies to spit in our faces and call us cheap! May I remind everyone that Thatcher was against Germany reuniting, fearful of us becoming a military power again. We didn‘t….and NOW we are the ar$eholes again?! NO, WE ARE NOT PLAYING YOUR ‚*BlAmE iT on tHe GeRmANs* game with you anymore
You have to remember; the Revolution is the founding mythology of the United States. The basic facts are enlarged and given extra emphasis to make the birth of that nation special and awesome. You research history and folklore, this stuff is common among cultures let alone countries worldwide. Initially, most the colonies didn’t want independence just a recognition of their rights as English men. The lack of support for American independence among the UK common folk was simple; the Americans ranting on about no taxation without representation … the rest of our Empire just looked at them and said, welcome to our world. What makes you so special that you think you deserve special treatment? The US was important to Britain in the sense of trade. 80% of the goods used by the colonists were English imports and in return, the US exported cash crops. The British were a mercantile empire and we valued that market. However, we had other markets that were simply more important: India (The Jewel in the Crown) and the access to South East Asia being the biggest, too. The US goods were valued and arrived quicker than the raw materials from India. However, they were cash crops we could get elsewhere in the Empire. It just took time to ship them back, process them, then export the manufactured goods. This was the mistake the Confederate States made relying on Britain’s need for cotton. Confederate cotton was convenient to us; not necessary. We had started cotton plantations in India, which also produced some the dyes used to colour it. The problem for France was really self inflicted. Their economic system was based on tying the people to the land, hence why their colonies never really worked out. The nobles wanted the commoners back in France farming their land. Even if you managed to get abroad, life didn’t get any better. Britain made functional, self reliant colonies. The French colonies, however, had to get authorisation from the Home Country to do pretty much anything. That bridge that provides access to your village is washed away? British colonists would simply rebuild it. The French Governor had to send a note on a trade vessel, hope it got back to France and the government. Get it ticked off. Send the reply back - and that was most of a year gone. What if the government queried anything though? You can see how the situation could rapidly snowball. The Governor could authorise the rebuilding, but if he did so without the King’s consent, it might affect his family’s standing at court. At the end of the day, the French knew they really couldn’t afford to help bankroll the United States, but base pettiness won out over logic in this case sadly. The country almost bankrupted itself and on top of that we’re now getting back armed forces who had been enraptured by the anti government sentiment from their US colleagues. It became a ticking time bombing that exploded into the French Revolution. This is far too simple an explanation that doesn’t provide a whole lot of nuance and context, but if I included it, this would become a book. At the end of the war, the US asked the UK for continued trade as before - instead of switching to France as major trade partner - and more enlightened minds back in England prevailed and we agreed. The two major participants pretty much got what they wanted and the world rolled on. Apologies for length. Hope this commentary provided some context. Enjoy your channel. Have a great day.
As others have already mentioned: you completely misunderstood him here. In Germany we talk a lot of the topic of WWII and what led to it, how the Nazi-party came into power, how things escalated and what horrible things were done, how the resistance worked and how those people often died, what happened with other countries etc etc etc. It's also not just talked about just once and not just in history class either. It is talked about in different classes, for example German language class (authors from that time, storys about that time), ethics class (how religion was used and what kind of morals should be taught so it doesn't happen again) and other classes as well... It is not like we talk about it all the time, but it is a topic that comes up basically every school year in one lesson or another at least once outside of history class.
As a UK citizen I entirely agree with you about the extent to which Germans have used the lessons of the Second World War to educate post-war generations. And I congratulate you for it. As a country you, probably more than any other, have learned the lesson that 'those who disregard history are bound to repeat it'.
@@IainEPaterson Thanks❤. Though to be honest... with the political climate that goes around the world again (and sadly Germany as well), I would love if one point would be made more clear in school still: Not everyone wanted to kill someone when they voted for the Nazis 1933. A lot just wanted poverty and those who they thought responsible or the division between Germans gone from their lifes. They probably didn't think much about the 'how' more than having them leave the country at that point. (That is oversimplified of course... but I think a point that should be talked about more) But that (and the propaganda and the resulting hatred) was what led to the holocaust in the end.
@@natsukiilluna6324 Absolutely agree with all you have said. The terms of the Treaty of Versailles and the situation in 20/30s Germany make the 1933 vote for the NSDAP completely understandable, and doesn't mean the general population were wanting to kill people. And to be fair much of what they enacted in the first years benefited a lot of the German people. That said, even in 1933 anyone who had read Mein Kampf might have had some idea how things would turn out once they had achieved total control. As you say the political climate around the world now, even in democratic nations (including Germany, France, UK and particularly the USA with Trump and Project 2025) makes me worried for the future. At least you guys are trying to educate your young people which is more than a lot of countries do..
@@IainEPaterson Yeah... sadly turning a blind eye is always easy to excuse. In regards to the US I hope that they finally catch a turning point without things escalating...😖 But the US is the best prove what happens if you allow such things to fester instead of working against them. That is something where Japan (for all I hate the approach of them in regards to their doings during WWII) still is a little bit better than the US. Because they don't have a lot of this superior complex in comparison, their approach leads to more peaceful and less discriminating actions. I'm not sure why that is... but probably because it is not 'traditional' to pit groups of people against each other, like it is in the US. (Japanese can still be pretty discriminatory, but... even if you call them out on it they don't take it as badly as US Americans often do😅)
Mein Kampf is probably similar to Project 2025 also insofar that even if it is readily available... a lot of people are just listening to the summary (I'm guilty of that as well... since I can't stomach it😅). And what kind of summary you get depends on whose summary you hear or read and if you read or hear only one or more than one.
Idk, I think it was still a very important colony, since it was the most populated "white" colony, thus populated by British subject (and some other Europeans). They sent a very big army in USA (especially for British standards), even if it wasn't a total war or anything like that but well. For the war of 1812 though, they really, really had better things to do. The Napoleonic wars. Actualy, the war of 1812 is more of side-theatre of that war than anything else.
The U.K. was at war with Napoleon in 1812, the US thought it would be a walkover invading Canada with the British military occupied in Europe. With the fall of Napoleon in 1815 a huge number of battle hardened troops would have been available for the war in Canada hence the peace treaty. Lucy Worsley has recorded a brilliant series on the fibs related to the war of independence by the US. th-cam.com/video/8zyV4ApGies/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ExXYdcRSJR6TBLom
Hey Connor, as an outsider (Non American) we get the impression that Americans tend to forget that the atrocities that happened on 9/11 were in retaliation to US actions in the middle east, they were not a preemptive strike, the culprits didn't just decide for no reason to crash those planes. again, it's a case of looking into the history, what happened before? what was the cause?.......that's why History is so important, if we fail to learn from history, we are condemned to make the same mistakes.....
They may have been a retaliation, But they deliberately did it through civilians, a sizable minority of whom were not even from the nation they had an issue with, such a retaliation is still cowardly murder..
@@Markus117d oh I agree, that it was an unjustifiable atrocity but then so are the over 7 million civilian deaths that have happened since that are on our hands.......
It breaks my heart that so many in USA STILL do not understand the truth about 9/11. USA and Israel, probably also Saudi´s were behind 9/11. Let me give a few smoking guns. Less than 2 months before 9/11 WTC 1 and 2 and Building 7 were bought by Israeli Larry -we decided to pull it -Silverstein. Building 7´s tenants were FBI and CIA. There were 2 planes hitting WTC 1 and 2 but building 7 similarly as those buildings, fell with gravitational speed, roof imploding and all 4 corners going down at same time as they would in a perfect demolition job. The very next day, Larry - we decided to pull it - Silverstein said, on open mike and camera that "We decided to pull it"! NOW, no matter if you decide to "pull"/demolish a huge building, it´s NOT something you can do in an hour. It takes around 3 moths if expedited. Demands tests of conditions of concrete, deep calculations, drilling of holes for explosions, wiring it all, make a carefully planned sequence of these explosions etc. IF you have access to military grade termite you can avoid large explosions and melt most primary structure just prior to small detonations. SO when Larry the day after gave this explanation we MUST conclude that this minimum 3 months preparation process had taken place EITHER by very clever jihadist terrorists in a building whose tenants were FBI and CIA OR that they themselves had made this and THUS had a minimum 3 months prior advance knowledge! Larry when buying the buddings demanded some very unusual explicit insurance terms that resulted in him getting double insurance pay out for the buildings. EVEN the 9/11 commission KNEW they could not come up with a plausible lie regarding building 7 so they simply ignored that building in their report that only related to WTC 1 and 2! 2 planes hit in New York that day BUT facts are that 3 huge building fell with gravitational speed. A building can ONLY fall with gravitational speed if there are NO resistance below, read, demolish, just prior or at same time otherwise some slower fall speed will be the result, simple rules of physics. In the days and months after 9/11 many dust sample were gathered from all over Manhattan and scientifically investigated and ALL (!) contained either residue of termite or residue from burned termite. Please also remember the 3 Israelis that just had flown in from Israel. That set up a rolling camera pointing towards the buildings PRIOR to planes arriving. That CHEERED when first plane hit. That because of people witnessing that called police got arrested but were given a special presidential permission (along with over 30 members of the Bin Laden family that were in USA) to leave the nation by plane while a non fly order were valid for all airlines! Some bewildered Islamic fundamentalists properly were lured into performing these acts BUT anyone looking at the incredible amount of evidences gathered over the years cannot come to any other conclusion that some US authorities and agencies KNEW about 9/11 a long time prior to the date itself. Bush, Cheeny, Rumsfeld KNEW and maybe even were the real planners! 3 days before USA attacked Iraq a huge demographic survey were performed asking people able to vote: "Should USA attack Iraq to revenge 9/11?" It´s deeply frightening that 86% answered that question with a "Yes" considering Iraq and Saddam had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11. Americans need to realise they are not as "free" as they think, same goes for their media. I have only scratched the surface with the above facts. How come US media and politicians do not pursue this topic until the perpetrators inside USA are identified, prosecuted and jailed? 3000 Americans died that day and not one of them have received the most basic murder investigation even a drug addict are entitled to "because entire USA saw it live on TV"! It were a very sad and cruel bamboozle!
Yeah. ,9/11 is not excusable in any way. Neither are excusable the US promoted 1 million dead in the iran irak war. Or even are excusable the babies that were vaporized or burned alive in the 2 atomic bombs. Or ...
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The British cracked down on tea smuggling, which upset the colonial elite who got much of their wealth from said endeavour so they funded an insurrection under the guise of "freedom".
16:28 in... I think you misunderstood what the guy said. In germany, they are teaching everything and all the horrible things their grandparents did etc... they have even much more documentaries about hitler and the holocaust than in the rest of europe. The students very well know what happened. But yes, if you told a 25 year old japanese about what they did in WWII, they would not believe you
However it does not relate to truth, that USA at the very least KNEW about it many months in advance and that they most likely were the planners as well.
I think he reacted to Volker Pispers on the developments between totalitarian leaders and the US/CIA propping them up and taking them down over the years..- For anyone not having watched this political cabaret…it is in German with relatively well translated subtitles in Englaih, here on yt!
Connor sorry to brake it to you christopher columbus was never on the mayflower his ship was the Santa Maria he He died on 20 May 1506 so its impossible for him to find America, the captain of the mayflower was Christopher Jones, Jones was the captain and quarter-owner of the Mayflower. He was contracted by Thomas Weston to transport Puritan separatists from Leiden, the Netherlands to the New World to establish a settlement. Education Education Education is the key.
It's difficult when you have a conflict of interest about your own Countries actions . To your credit you are willing to consider there are other points of view . True historical perspective needs to examine many , often conflicting accounts of events .
Know disrespect Connor but American independence from England was and still is a small thing. We were far more busy fighting the megalomaniac from France. Napoleon. He was far more interested in taking over Europe and becoming it's leader, we were more interested in stopping him, and letting the people decide how they should be ruled.
Conor everyone seems to overestimate the strength of the British at this time, we had a powerful navy to protect our trade around the globe but the smallest field army in Europe, if it wasn’t for the navy and the English Channel France would have walked through us in a few weeks. At Waterloo a “Great British victory” only 25,000 of the 64,000 troops fighting the French were actually British, the Empire was built on trade not really conquest, we would pay the strongest local forces to do the work for us. During the War of Independence we were only a trading nation with a strong navy, we never had a large army due to very small population size, at this time about one third of the army was Irish, driven there by poverty.
The painting that he used to illustrate the French Revolution of 1789, ‘Liberty Leading the People’ by Delacroix was painted to mark the July Revolution of 1830.
dude staying loyal to the country that cared for you vrs violating your loyalty oaths as officers and brittish citizens in a cash and power grab, really , read the definition of traitor before you throw that word around. My family settled in the area known as New York in 1680 became successful farmers and were burned out and their land stolen by revolutionaries, because they felt that betraying the crown that had helped them arrive and granted them land to settle was wrong. For this belief they were driven from their land and fled to upper Canada, Then war of 1812 another attempted land grab. Anyway keep up the good work, have a good one.
The reason Britain held on to India and not the US, was because trade was far more viable and positive for the UK from India than from the 13 colonies in the 18th century. The American colonies were a drain on Britain, India was not. Plus, India was geographically defined and the nascent geopolitics could factor this in, in the America's it was open ended and contested by the Portugues, the Spanish and the French. Plus, the British citizens of the America's were already an unruly lot and wanted no form of taxation, which was btw introduced by the US soon after the war, and wanted to do their "own thing", unencumbered by a constitution - funny that.. The 1812 "war" was anything but a continuation of the 18th century conflict. The nascent US had grown in confidence and expansionism, saw the "West" as its own and the north as forbidden fruit that it must have. It was a war started by the US to take control of what became Canada. The Canadians fought back, with British backing and that's where the war ended. The annexation of the Republic of Texas in 1845 led directly to the Mexican-American War, after which the victorious United States obtained the northern half of Mexico's territory, including what was quickly made the state of California. The United States continued expanding beyond North America in 1856 with the passage of the Guano Islands Act, causing many small and uninhabited, but economically important, islands in the Caribbean Sea and the Pacific Ocean to be claimed. Most of these claims were eventually abandoned, largely because of competing claims from other countries. The Pacific expansion culminated in the annexation of Hawaii in 1898, after the overthrow of its government five years previously. Alaska, the last major acquisition in North America, was purchased from Russia in 1867. American Samoa was acquired by the United States in 1900 after the end of the Second Samoan Civil War. The United States purchased the U.S. Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917. Puerto Rico and Guam remain territories, and the Philippines became independent in 1946. Feeling good about the US? What do you call the above? I'd call it pot calling the kettle black.
I don’t think the war of 1812 gave the USA a place on the international scene. During the nineteenth century, the USA largely concentrated on internal affairs, such as the westward expansion and fighting a civil war. There first real role in international affairs was hosting the signing of the treaty that ended the Russo-Japanese in the early twentieth century.
How do you imagine speech was any less free in Canada or England at that time? Bear in mind that Magna Carta was passed in 1215, over five centuries before your independence, and 3 years short of six centuries before 1812, and over those centuries had become rather stronger. Mind you, it's true that elements of it are looking a bit shaky at the moment.
Interesting. I don’t know about now but when I was taught history in high school in Australia in the late 1970s, the French Revolution is always where we started - as the most important event which went on to shape world history. The US War of Independence was just a footnote.
In Brazil we learn as much about our history as about prehistory here and in Europe, because they are connected, practically nothing mentions the USA, because there is nothing to mention historically that is not in WWII,which speaks of all who participated in the real way
One of the reasons I appreciate you is your ability to look at, and try to understand both/all sides of an incident. Keep learning about the world from all perspectives.
I'm afraid, Connor, the colonial tax-evaders take up only a small space in our history curriculum. I was more shocked to learn that probably a quarter of the population of Britain were either killed or enslaved by the Romans after they invaded Britain.
Why are US kids only taught about the history of their land from the arrival of the white man. Why aren't they taught about the long and very interesting history of the indigenous civilizations?
What do you mean by indigenous? Native Americans? Australian Aboriginals? Irish (as in in Ireland not American)? How about teaching world history not just US focussed?
The Point is were the bombs dropped to beat the Russians to it, because if Russia had conquered Japan they would now own it as a military base and the USA couldn't live with that.
We had a number of civil wars and rebellions before the Colonial Rebellion and later Britain was a little busy in Europe at the time of the War of 1812 dealing with America's ally Napoleon and the French .
You didn't win the war of 1812 we did up here .You need to learn more about Canada and we had free speech to .Where do you think you got t from ?Same people we did .btw we are all cousins
Surely without the American Revolution the USA would have ended up an independent country just like Canada , Australia and NZ eventually and maybe in front of those time wise.?
The issue about the atomic bombs was not the impact of the bombs themselves (as you say, the firebombing of Tokyo had more impact) but that it was a total bluff. What the Japanese did not know was that the two atomic bombs that the USA has dropped was the totality of their stockpile of the weapons at the time. What the Japanese feared was that the Americans would be dropping one of these bombs each week for several months, when in reality the USA simply had not the stockpile nor production capacity to do this.
The city where I live is over 1,000 years old and once the capital of England. We are only have one history lesson a week at school. They have to pick and choose. I think the first battle we learn about really is the battle of Hastings in 1066. Then you have the monarchy etc. We have too long a history to learn everything. We do learn about other cultures etc. But its just too much to learn. Also its been over 30 years since I was at school.
Germany's handling of its dark history, since the 70s in any case, would do other nations (especially the US) good! I thought you would have learned more about Germany by now, quite disappointing. He says that Germany has the highest standard, you must not have listened. I think US history (among other things) education is the worst in the Western world, period.
Around this time, someone was at tuckshop with other volounteer mothers, in australia making school lunches. A mother in a headscarf, rejoiced at the news, saying it's about time. Other mothers were horrified at her attitude.
Ŕe Japan's surrender.. No no no , it WAS due to the Atomic bombs!! Japanese culture is historically built on "the warrior" mentality heavily based on honor - fight on, no surrender!! AND The fire bombing as you put it, by conventional weapons of the day were NOTHING next to the utter annihilation of the Atomic bomb. I think you need to research further. With love & respect from an Aussie woman 63yrs, for personal context of these comments see below. NOTE my dad was a Japanese POW who was interned in the infamous CHANGI PRISON & forced to work the BURMA RAILWAY, all part of an inhuman "Death March" 💚💛✌🏼
With regards to the war of 1812. He says most of the fighting was done by Militia and First Nations. That is not correct, the majority of the fighting was done by the few British regulars and the First Nations. There was involvement of militia units, but they were not the main fighting force. Also, I don't remember spending three months in school learning about the war of 1812. Not sure where he got his information from.
The guys who did this video actually did a video explaining why you're wrong about Math and Maths being correct, but also explains in it,it's not about it being plural.
18:00 A factor that does not seem to be taught or understood is the US submarine campaign in the Pacific - most of my US friends are oblivious to it. A handful (relatively) of men and boats decimated the Japanese economy and put an economic stranglehold on Japan that throttled her economy. Compare and contrast that with the Battle of the Atlantic where Dönitz's U-boats failed to do the same.
Britain was at war for years in Europe, mainly against Napoleon Bonaparte and the French, the Spanish, also an aggressive enemy. I think the best thing about the American Revolution was 'Hamilton' the musical. I've been to some lovely BBQ's celebrating our joint independence from each other but I am a basic educated English person who wasn't really interested in World history until the 2 world wars.
Irish ☘️ history - 8 pint version, My short personal version of Irish history. An indigenous culturally Celtic, Druid led people got converted to Christianity in the 5th Century, by Patrick a Romano Welsh dude. . By the 7th century monks were doing missionary work in then Saxon England, the English eventually opted for the Roman version, kinda funny later. Invaded by Vikings ( Norse and Danes) 9th and 10th. They settled mainly Dublin, Wexford and Waterford. Brian Boru, won a battle with Vikings, but many had settled by then. Late 12th century - one chieftain in a divided clan based country invited French speaking Anglo/Normans to help him out - this led to more Normans and an English idea of ruling Ireland - they didn’t and Ireland got used to Henry FitzGerald, and Gerald FitzHenry, who were loyal to their possessions - becoming more Irish…. 1601 changed everything - Northern Earls - O’Neil and O’Donnell, who had never been unconquered, did a Tottenham at Kinsale. Earls scarpered, leading to the plantation, (replacement population) by of their northern territories by mostly Scots - this comes back later. The idea of countries and nations was not on the horizon then, but folk taking your land was. 17th century also led to the zealot Cromwell beating hell out of Irish Catholics to save their souls and reduce the chance of an back door invasion. Murdered loads and exiled many to the west. Londoners inviting in a Dutch king led to him beating their former Anglo-Scots king at the battle of the boyne. Catholics and Protestants fought on both sides, contrary to what many believe. More plantation in the north east, and a little in the rest. Religious penal laws led to n English Protestant ascendancy in most of Ireland, with Catholics being disenfranchised of their previous limited rights - not allowed work for they government, or stand for Irish parliament. 1789 - France changed the world - birth of republics and seeds of nationalism. This created a thought revolution - like hippies and to a lesser extent rave, all over Europe. 1798 - Protestant led revolution - slow burn - no wifi or even telegrams 19th century, nationalism grew, emmet, dreamer revolutionary, and Daniel O,connel - Hume like fight for Irish Catholics Famine - led to huge resentment of English establishment, and the start of a sentimental, but active, bitter, Irish base in New York, Boston - they financed much of the rest 150 years. 20th century, hopefulls, but unlikely win, had uprising, not entirely popular, with Dubs and others who had relations fighting in France. The needless and stupid Kilmainham executions, changed that feeling totally. Led to post war 26 county Treaty, negotiated by Collins and others. country spilt and civil war, 6 north eastern counties controlled by Protestant, who mostly hated and feared Catholics Independence in theory for 26 counties , but controlled over time by a repressive Irish catholic clergy. No Protestant northerner, was interested in joining the poor repressive Republic. 60s - ROI had seeds of economic and social change. 6 counties had MLK inspired civil rights movement against, poor housing, job chances and blatant gerrymandering, on the late 60s. Was met with b-special (RUC branch) brutality. London sent in british troops as a buffer to sectarianism. IRA - Provos, used this, as recruiting tool, actions led to internment and more recruitment. Blood Sunday in Derry before internment did this too. Next 30 - sectarianism, bombing and shooting led to loads of horrible and celebrated shit. ROI continued to slowly slip away from the Catholic, towards education, jobs and life, using an educated populace and low tax to attract investment. Last 30. NI peace for most, apart from some deprived loyalist enclaves, who have no money or support. ROI went from 80% of Uk gdp per capita to 120%, also largely rejecting a clergy who abused and controlled. My take. Tried to relate objectively - and left out loads. My synopsis of Irish history - think it’s still too deep and detailed for the sasanachs, one take, with no spell check.
I love the UK and consider them our parent and closest ideological ally (besides underwhelming Canada), but find it so cute that Britain tries to take the “Mick” out of us as much as they do, considering, if they are the parent, they are Jon Voight, and we are Angelina Jolie.
Meanwhile in Sweden: 1814? Yeah, that's the last time we were involved in a war... :) And, once again, I'm glad to see a nuanced American reaction to these topics. Good job!
US "revolution" was just an independance war like many others. (mostly won by french troops/navy, by the way). A revolution is a bigger change, not related to colonialism. Europeans learn about this war against the english colonizers, of course, (apparently better than US people learn about french revolution) but they call that independance war, because that's what it is exactly ! European countries had to face many independance wars, because they had MANY overseas colonies (just like england had)...
Fighting Napoleon was way more important. He’s the reason you drive on the other side of the road too. Dictator Napoleon tells you to drive on that side. Commonwealth stayed driving on the left as it’s safer and not supporting Napoleon.
Well, Canada actually. While ships were still being built from wood, the forests of Canada were important. There were boatbuilding yards all over Eastern Canada; the new ships were stuffed with more lumber for the trip across the Atlantic. Once Canada developed enough, the largest transportation company of the world was created. Canadian Pacific Railway had a transcontinental railway w/grand railway hotels, plus two shipping fleets plying the Atlantic & Pacific, so sailing around Cape Horn was no longer necessary to get from London to Hong Kong.
Looking to Vietnam as a sign of weakening US world power can interestingly be juxtaposed with the UK losing the American War of Independence. Both can show the limits of a world power but neither really show that the power had yet reached its zenith.
Connor, I think you misunderstood the message about Germany. Children in Germany learn from a very young age about WWII in detail. Holocaust denial, swastikas and Hitler salutes are not freedom of speech in Germany but considered as crimes. There are multiple TH-cam videos about how the Germans relate to their past.
I have given an introductory factual comment regarding 9/11 "for dummies" 2 places on this site, that provides enough facts to reject the official story. Let´s see if it are allowed to stay up or are censored.
We're not telling them to focus on it, Just that We're shocked that they go so far to pretend it didn't happen, We ourselves may perhaps not focus as much as we should on our own bad deeds, But we don't deny them to anything like the Japanese degree either, After all, We like most nations inevitably spin things somewhat, but don't entirely erase them either...
Hi, My American pal. A question for you - What did you win? Re - watch this without talking over the narration and you will manage to learn that he was not always against what you were thinking. To bring in 9/11 is just ignorance.
Everything is a footnote in British classrooms - my kids learnt the Tudors, some Victorian social history and bits of the Second World War. In Ireland we learnt from the Neolithic times to the mid 20th century - with no skips - Druids, monks, Vikings … ill post my 5 min Irish history at the bottom, written one night while pissed (drunk) We also learnt Roman, Byzantine, French, English, some Spanish, and some New world - no Asian, but most Irish kids know more British history than Brits - even the 7% who pay to get a 40m start in a 100m sprint. I’m on a rant at the dude. Bet he’s the one who criticised yanks for zee, not zed.
It would almost certainly be it's own country without the war (and maybe even years after if they lost), it would have just probably come after Aus and Canada gained their independence.
@ThornyLittleFlower This is what is called 'face'. Takes too long to describe. However, the recent TV series Shogun shows some elements. You can not ascribe Western values to Asiatic cultures. They lost a lot of 'Face', and that needs a lot of gracious leading to make a fundamental change. Maybe in the next generation this can change.
do u get taught about usa's agent orange? that ur still in legal battle for the generations of mutant children? i drove my history teacher mad bringing in projects about things uk need t regret lol
I don’t think they’re taught about the holocaust at all. They wouldn’t ignorantly call people Nazis at the drop of a hat if they did. Or Mussolini and Fascism. Whether you like Trump or not, he’s not killed millions of innocent people like AH.
I'm so happy Donald trump was born after we lost the war and not before. Just imagine if we were dealt such a blow as an English Donald trump. If nothing else, the war was worth losing to prevent that from happening.
This vid lad is a bit of a spoon. I learnt about US history in my own time - 13 colonies - Boston, Paul Revere - the lot. The Spanish introducing horses to plains Indians. Second oldest US city - not east or west coast. Math or Maths - petty. It was fought to self govern - if the gentry had been given seats in the parliament, it would have been delayed, but not for long. By the centennial, not long after the civil war, the US Had multicultural east coast cities and west coast Chinese had met West coast Irish, having built ….. you know all this, but s do I as an average Dubliner. Dislike arrogant English pseudo historians. But your great Connor. ❤️👍🏽👍☘️
I find it funny that British people Complaine about not pronouncing English words right but white people can't seem to pronounce anyone else's language right. I bet if I ask you how do you say these word "Kareoke, Karate" I'd be you get it wrong 😊 lol
The American revolution was almost a first civil war, yes the British were expelled but whole families were divided by the war & the ordinary British soldiers got along with the Americans, many Americans being decendents of the british anyway. One thing is certain at the time of the war the anti British Americans invented a lot of propaganda to blacken the British, as a recruitment Sargent, this was continued in Hollywood & most recently mel Gibson potraying the British as baby eating monsters, snarling & arrogant. Im sure some individuals could have been pretty nasty but this overall narrative is largely untrue. Not long into the 19th century Canada got its independence from Britain & later Australia & New Zealand. South Africa had a armed conflict with Britain, but Britain didnt want to commit troops for a long war with any of these countries. Into the 20th century Britain released most of its colonies without ,largely ,any wars, so much so theses former colonies joined the commonwealth & remained friendly with Britain to this day.
Never understood the Columbus thing you guys have over there, he is not even American and he did not discover Americas. I believe that was the migrating Egyptian tribes a very long time ago who eventually became the Native Indian and also African tribes were all across already in America lol A little similar with Russia or America saying they won WW2 when Britain done all the hard work 😂 Now you know how that feels 😂
15:35 Oh no, you totally missunderstood him. Please watch 13:15 again. He described Germany as a paragon of education when it comes to this topic. I had 2 years of history class covering WW2 and it's aftermath while Japan brushes over it like it was a minor inconvenience in history. We have lots of memorials, museums, preserved historic sites etc.
In Europe we start learning history from the beginning, the pre-history
And not just pre-America history, in my first history lessons at school we learned about Dinosaurs.
There is a difference between World History and United States History. We actually learn both but one is required and one is not, at least when I was in School. There are always wars going on somewhere and to Me they all look like land grabs.
You called her a traitor but she didn't change loyalties....she stayed loyal to the end....surely that is the exact opposite of a traitor.
All nations have their creation myths. The problem is that the US teaches their myth as fact.
If every countrys independence from Britain was a big thing in history class, they could teach nothing else anymore.
I was in the USA on the day of the attack, and I have never seen such panic and terror as I saw that day,and I lived through the IRA attacks which were something the Americans could never understand, though they were happy to fund the killers, and yet when it was them they were traumatised
You are really going to go there and compete for atrocities? You act as though you believe like the English and 350 million USA citizens are all alike.. We never walked in your shirs
Oh yes, they still believe in being the free and the brave…lol
And they still bomb and provide bombs for others
15:50 "countries like Germany and Japan not wanting to focus on those parts of their history" 1) Rewind and listen. 2) Your German viewers are laughing their asses off.
A sarcastic laugh
Many americans (him included) would get nightmares from way WW2 is taught in Germany. Average american wouldn't handle washing gravestones.
War documentaries in TV would also traumatize average american.
It's completely different world to anyone who lives in countries where that countries dark history is something that should be hidden (US and England as best examples).
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@@UltraCasualPenguin That is true. If they showed in the US what is shown to children in Germany in history class would have American patents revolt in the streets bevause of alleged traumatizing thrir children.
For example many classes visit the former concentration camps and see for example the ovens where the dead bodies were burnt. And we watch very traumatic videos, read terrifying letters and books, show horrific original pictures,... There are also survivers speaking live to the children.
We have no trigger warnings, as everything about that horrible times is triggering.
in regards to the War of 1812, it's easy for Americans to see it as a win considering the fact that Britain literally had no intention of trying to retake their former colonies. The US declared war on the British. The war was nothing more than Great Britain's way of teaching them a lesson and because they would look weak if they didn't respond - hence the burning of the White House and hence why no one in the UK really cares about it. Amusing for the USA to solidify its national identity from a war it started, failed to actually win and instead allowed things to go back to how things were before the whole thing began. Doesn't matter how significant you guys think Jackson's victory was. The Brits saw this as a minor distraction from annoying neighbours throwing dog poop into their yard whilst dealing with the real threat: Napoleon. Which they did. When you think about how dangerous Napoleon actually was, simply not losing the War of 1812 is not as "bad ass" as you think. In fact, it's kind of embarrassing. It's like starting a fight with a Brit bigger than you whilst he is fighting a Frenchman bigger than him - with you only walking away with a slap, bragging about how the Brit didn't murder you, as he disposes of the corpse of the Frenchman. You won the first war because every major power assisted you. You didn't lose the second because you just were not that important enough for them to really care
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They did lose the second though, what happened after waterloo still happened. Last of its troops evacuated Canada in 1814, when you start a war to "free Canadians from tyranny" and you don't free any Canadians from tyranny, it was another 150+ years before Canada left the empire. That's a "loss"
Well put.
Yes, because you were there.
Good analysis
Connor ,who would have thought that when you started making these videos for public consumption that you would have tackled such a complicated and controversial subject with such understanding. You have come such a long way ,I admire your tenacity .
I agree 👍🏽 It's a pleasure to watch.
The 1812 war was a total victory for the uk and an utter loss for the USA.
You tried to change the borders, and the war ended with the borders being exactly as they were ..
We held the line. I call that a win!
Well, the Germans nowadays actually spent a lot of time in school focussing on the Nazi regime, how it influenced German society and how the Nazi regime made the Holocaust possible. They make an actual effort to educate the students, so that something similar will never happen again. Japan just does not treat the period 1931-1945 with the same kind of focus and attention. It must be a cultural thing, it is as if the Japanese are ashamed to deal with their past and instead of dealing with it and learn from it, they just choose to skip the entire period instead as if it never happened.
For the reasons why Japan is so reluctant to acknowledge and atone for their past from 1931 to 1945, I think it has as much to do with the fact that the Allies didn't invade, conquer, occupy, and attempt to deradicalise Japan in the same way they did with Germany and Austria (i.e. de-Nazification).
In fact in Germany and Austria the Nazi time is covered that heavily that many pupils just cannot hear it any more, because it is taught everywhere, in history class, in German class, in English class, in Arts, in Geographie etc.
Germany covers its atrocities in the second world war in school, Japan ignores it's atrocities and doesn't cover it anywhere.
Can't really blame them. They were just as bad as the Nazis if not worst. I don't think they killed as many as the Nazis but it was the way they went about it. Look up unit 732. Horrendous
That Japan hides the facts about WW2 is absolutely shocking. The biggest mistake USA ever made was invading Irak and we are still paying for that mistake.
germans are very sorry for the war, hence why they dont have an army,
@@paulhadfield7909 which, only 34 years after reunification, is endless reasons for European and overseas allies to spit in our faces and call us cheap!
May I remind everyone that Thatcher was against Germany reuniting, fearful of us becoming a military power again.
We didn‘t….and NOW we are the ar$eholes again?!
NO, WE ARE NOT PLAYING YOUR ‚*BlAmE iT on tHe GeRmANs* game with you anymore
@@paulhadfield7909 No army? Where did you get that from?
You have to remember; the Revolution is the founding mythology of the United States. The basic facts are enlarged and given extra emphasis to make the birth of that nation special and awesome. You research history and folklore, this stuff is common among cultures let alone countries worldwide. Initially, most the colonies didn’t want independence just a recognition of their rights as English men. The lack of support for American independence among the UK common folk was simple; the Americans ranting on about no taxation without representation … the rest of our Empire just looked at them and said, welcome to our world. What makes you so special that you think you deserve special treatment?
The US was important to Britain in the sense of trade. 80% of the goods used by the colonists were English imports and in return, the US exported cash crops. The British were a mercantile empire and we valued that market. However, we had other markets that were simply more important: India (The Jewel in the Crown) and the access to South East Asia being the biggest, too. The US goods were valued and arrived quicker than the raw materials from India. However, they were cash crops we could get elsewhere in the Empire. It just took time to ship them back, process them, then export the manufactured goods. This was the mistake the Confederate States made relying on Britain’s need for cotton. Confederate cotton was convenient to us; not necessary. We had started cotton plantations in India, which also produced some the dyes used to colour it.
The problem for France was really self inflicted. Their economic system was based on tying the people to the land, hence why their colonies never really worked out. The nobles wanted the commoners back in France farming their land. Even if you managed to get abroad, life didn’t get any better. Britain made functional, self reliant colonies. The French colonies, however, had to get authorisation from the Home Country to do pretty much anything. That bridge that provides access to your village is washed away? British colonists would simply rebuild it. The French Governor had to send a note on a trade vessel, hope it got back to France and the government. Get it ticked off. Send the reply back - and that was most of a year gone. What if the government queried anything though? You can see how the situation could rapidly snowball. The Governor could authorise the rebuilding, but if he did so without the King’s consent, it might affect his family’s standing at court.
At the end of the day, the French knew they really couldn’t afford to help bankroll the United States, but base pettiness won out over logic in this case sadly. The country almost bankrupted itself and on top of that we’re now getting back armed forces who had been enraptured by the anti government sentiment from their US colleagues. It became a ticking time bombing that exploded into the French Revolution. This is far too simple an explanation that doesn’t provide a whole lot of nuance and context, but if I included it, this would become a book.
At the end of the war, the US asked the UK for continued trade as before - instead of switching to France as major trade partner - and more enlightened minds back in England prevailed and we agreed. The two major participants pretty much got what they wanted and the world rolled on.
Apologies for length. Hope this commentary provided some context. Enjoy your channel.
Have a great day.
As others have already mentioned: you completely misunderstood him here. In Germany we talk a lot of the topic of WWII and what led to it, how the Nazi-party came into power, how things escalated and what horrible things were done, how the resistance worked and how those people often died, what happened with other countries etc etc etc.
It's also not just talked about just once and not just in history class either. It is talked about in different classes, for example German language class (authors from that time, storys about that time), ethics class (how religion was used and what kind of morals should be taught so it doesn't happen again) and other classes as well... It is not like we talk about it all the time, but it is a topic that comes up basically every school year in one lesson or another at least once outside of history class.
As a UK citizen I entirely agree with you about the extent to which Germans have used the lessons of the Second World War to educate post-war generations. And I congratulate you for it. As a country you, probably more than any other, have learned the lesson that 'those who disregard history are bound to repeat it'.
@@IainEPaterson Thanks❤.
Though to be honest... with the political climate that goes around the world again (and sadly Germany as well), I would love if one point would be made more clear in school still: Not everyone wanted to kill someone when they voted for the Nazis 1933.
A lot just wanted poverty and those who they thought responsible or the division between Germans gone from their lifes. They probably didn't think much about the 'how' more than having them leave the country at that point. (That is oversimplified of course... but I think a point that should be talked about more)
But that (and the propaganda and the resulting hatred) was what led to the holocaust in the end.
@@natsukiilluna6324 Absolutely agree with all you have said. The terms of the Treaty of Versailles and the situation in 20/30s Germany make the 1933 vote for the NSDAP completely understandable, and doesn't mean the general population were wanting to kill people. And to be fair much of what they enacted in the first years benefited a lot of the German people. That said, even in 1933 anyone who had read Mein Kampf might have had some idea how things would turn out once they had achieved total control. As you say the political climate around the world now, even in democratic nations (including Germany, France, UK and particularly the USA with Trump and Project 2025) makes me worried for the future. At least you guys are trying to educate your young people which is more than a lot of countries do..
@@IainEPaterson Yeah... sadly turning a blind eye is always easy to excuse. In regards to the US I hope that they finally catch a turning point without things escalating...😖
But the US is the best prove what happens if you allow such things to fester instead of working against them. That is something where Japan (for all I hate the approach of them in regards to their doings during WWII) still is a little bit better than the US. Because they don't have a lot of this superior complex in comparison, their approach leads to more peaceful and less discriminating actions. I'm not sure why that is... but probably because it is not 'traditional' to pit groups of people against each other, like it is in the US. (Japanese can still be pretty discriminatory, but... even if you call them out on it they don't take it as badly as US Americans often do😅)
Mein Kampf is probably similar to Project 2025 also insofar that even if it is readily available... a lot of people are just listening to the summary (I'm guilty of that as well... since I can't stomach it😅). And what kind of summary you get depends on whose summary you hear or read and if you read or hear only one or more than one.
Losing the thirteen colonies was not such a big deal.
The Brits had bigger fish to fry in Asia.
Idk, I think it was still a very important colony, since it was the most populated "white" colony, thus populated by British subject (and some other Europeans). They sent a very big army in USA (especially for British standards), even if it wasn't a total war or anything like that but well.
For the war of 1812 though, they really, really had better things to do. The Napoleonic wars. Actualy, the war of 1812 is more of side-theatre of that war than anything else.
The U.K. was at war with Napoleon in 1812, the US thought it would be a walkover invading Canada with the British military occupied in Europe. With the fall of Napoleon in 1815 a huge number of battle hardened troops would have been available for the war in Canada hence the peace treaty.
Lucy Worsley has recorded a brilliant series on the fibs related to the war of independence by the US.
th-cam.com/video/8zyV4ApGies/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ExXYdcRSJR6TBLom
Hey Connor, as an outsider (Non American) we get the impression that Americans tend to forget that the atrocities that happened on 9/11 were in retaliation to US actions in the middle east, they were not a preemptive strike, the culprits didn't just decide for no reason to crash those planes. again, it's a case of looking into the history, what happened before? what was the cause?.......that's why History is so important, if we fail to learn from history, we are condemned to make the same mistakes.....
They may have been a retaliation, But they deliberately did it through civilians, a sizable minority of whom were not even from the nation they had an issue with, such a retaliation is still cowardly murder..
@@Markus117d oh I agree, that it was an unjustifiable atrocity but then so are the over 7 million civilian deaths that have happened since that are on our hands.......
It breaks my heart that so many in USA STILL do not understand the truth about 9/11. USA and Israel, probably also Saudi´s were behind 9/11. Let me give a few smoking guns. Less than 2 months before 9/11 WTC 1 and 2 and Building 7 were bought by Israeli Larry -we decided to pull it -Silverstein. Building 7´s tenants were FBI and CIA. There were 2 planes hitting WTC 1 and 2 but building 7 similarly as those buildings, fell with gravitational speed, roof imploding and all 4 corners going down at same time as they would in a perfect demolition job. The very next day, Larry - we decided to pull it - Silverstein said, on open mike and camera that "We decided to pull it"! NOW, no matter if you decide to "pull"/demolish a huge building, it´s NOT something you can do in an hour. It takes around 3 moths if expedited. Demands tests of conditions of concrete, deep calculations, drilling of holes for explosions, wiring it all, make a carefully planned sequence of these explosions etc. IF you have access to military grade termite you can avoid large explosions and melt most primary structure just prior to small detonations. SO when Larry the day after gave this explanation we MUST conclude that this minimum 3 months preparation process had taken place EITHER by very clever jihadist terrorists in a building whose tenants were FBI and CIA OR that they themselves had made this and THUS had a minimum 3 months prior advance knowledge! Larry when buying the buddings demanded some very unusual explicit insurance terms that resulted in him getting double insurance pay out for the buildings.
EVEN the 9/11 commission KNEW they could not come up with a plausible lie regarding building 7 so they simply ignored that building in their report that only related to WTC 1 and 2!
2 planes hit in New York that day BUT facts are that 3 huge building fell with gravitational speed.
A building can ONLY fall with gravitational speed if there are NO resistance below, read, demolish, just prior or at same time otherwise some slower fall speed will be the result, simple rules of physics.
In the days and months after 9/11 many dust sample were gathered from all over Manhattan and scientifically investigated and ALL (!) contained either residue of termite or residue from burned termite.
Please also remember the 3 Israelis that just had flown in from Israel. That set up a rolling camera pointing towards the buildings PRIOR to planes arriving. That CHEERED when first plane hit. That because of people witnessing that called police got arrested but were given a special presidential permission (along with over 30 members of the Bin Laden family that were in USA) to leave the nation by plane while a non fly order were valid for all airlines!
Some bewildered Islamic fundamentalists properly were lured into performing these acts BUT anyone looking at the incredible amount of evidences gathered over the years cannot come to any other conclusion that some US authorities and agencies KNEW about 9/11 a long time prior to the date itself. Bush, Cheeny, Rumsfeld KNEW and maybe even were the real planners!
3 days before USA attacked Iraq a huge demographic survey were performed asking people able to vote: "Should USA attack Iraq to revenge 9/11?" It´s deeply frightening that 86% answered that question with a "Yes" considering Iraq and Saddam had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11. Americans need to realise they are not as "free" as they think, same goes for their media.
I have only scratched the surface with the above facts. How come US media and politicians do not pursue this topic until the perpetrators inside USA are identified, prosecuted and jailed? 3000 Americans died that day and not one of them have received the most basic murder investigation even a drug addict are entitled to "because entire USA saw it live on TV"! It were a very sad and cruel bamboozle!
Yeah. ,9/11 is not excusable in any way. Neither are excusable the US promoted 1 million dead in the iran irak war. Or even are excusable the babies that were vaporized or burned alive in the 2 atomic bombs. Or ...
I urge all to go to the "sort by" function of comments above and choose "newest first" (and scroll down to this comment section) instead of the default "Top comments". Semi censorship happens regarding this subject.
The British cracked down on tea smuggling, which upset the colonial elite who got much of their wealth from said endeavour so they funded an insurrection under the guise of "freedom".
That’s funny and true.🤣
16:28 in... I think you misunderstood what the guy said. In germany, they are teaching everything and all the horrible things their grandparents did etc... they have even much more documentaries about hitler and the holocaust than in the rest of europe. The students very well know what happened. But yes, if you told a 25 year old japanese about what they did in WWII, they would not believe you
Well done mate. That was the most mature opinion on 9/11 from an American I have ever heard. 👍
However it does not relate to truth, that USA at the very least KNEW about it many months in advance and that they most likely were the planners as well.
I think he reacted to Volker Pispers on the developments between totalitarian leaders and the US/CIA propping them up and taking them down over the years..-
For anyone not having watched this political cabaret…it is in German with relatively well translated subtitles in Englaih, here on yt!
Connor sorry to brake it to you christopher columbus was never on the mayflower his ship was the Santa Maria he He died on 20 May 1506 so its impossible for him to find America, the captain of the mayflower was Christopher Jones, Jones was the captain and quarter-owner of the Mayflower. He was contracted by Thomas Weston to transport Puritan separatists from Leiden, the Netherlands to the New World to establish a settlement. Education Education Education is the key.
It's difficult when you have a conflict of interest about your own Countries actions . To your credit you are willing to consider there are other points of view . True historical perspective needs to examine many , often conflicting accounts of events .
Know disrespect Connor but American independence from England was and still is a small thing. We were far more busy fighting the megalomaniac from France. Napoleon. He was far more interested in taking over Europe and becoming it's leader, we were more interested in stopping him, and letting the people decide how they should be ruled.
11/9 was a shocking event but to countries that had been living with terrorist attacks for decades it wasn't considered unprecedented
Conor everyone seems to overestimate the strength of the British at this time, we had a powerful navy to protect our trade around the globe but the smallest field army in Europe, if it wasn’t for the navy and the English Channel France would have walked through us in a few weeks. At Waterloo a “Great British victory” only 25,000 of the 64,000 troops fighting the French were actually British, the Empire was built on trade not really conquest, we would pay the strongest local forces to do the work for us. During the War of Independence we were only a trading nation with a strong navy, we never had a large army due to very small population size, at this time about one third of the army was Irish, driven there by poverty.
The painting that he used to illustrate the French Revolution of 1789, ‘Liberty Leading the People’ by Delacroix was painted to mark the July Revolution of 1830.
Instantly recognised it from my very old history book from school in 90s
dude staying loyal to the country that cared for you vrs violating your loyalty oaths as officers and brittish citizens in a cash and power grab, really , read the definition of traitor before you throw that word around. My family settled in the area known as New York in 1680 became successful farmers and were burned out and their land stolen by revolutionaries, because they felt that betraying the crown that had helped them arrive and granted them land to settle was wrong. For this belief they were driven from their land and fled to upper Canada, Then war of 1812 another attempted land grab. Anyway keep up the good work, have a good one.
To quote The Pub Landlord.."We think of it as a lucky escape" (American Revolution)
The reason Britain held on to India and not the US, was because trade was far more viable and positive for the UK from India than from the 13 colonies in the 18th century. The American colonies were a drain on Britain, India was not. Plus, India was geographically defined and the nascent geopolitics could factor this in, in the America's it was open ended and contested by the Portugues, the Spanish and the French. Plus, the British citizens of the America's were already an unruly lot and wanted no form of taxation, which was btw introduced by the US soon after the war, and wanted to do their "own thing", unencumbered by a constitution - funny that.. The 1812 "war" was anything but a continuation of the 18th century conflict. The nascent US had grown in confidence and expansionism, saw the "West" as its own and the north as forbidden fruit that it must have. It was a war started by the US to take control of what became Canada. The Canadians fought back, with British backing and that's where the war ended. The annexation of the Republic of Texas in 1845 led directly to the Mexican-American War, after which the victorious United States obtained the northern half of Mexico's territory, including what was quickly made the state of California.
The United States continued expanding beyond North America in 1856 with the passage of the Guano Islands Act, causing many small and uninhabited, but economically important, islands in the Caribbean Sea and the Pacific Ocean to be claimed. Most of these claims were eventually abandoned, largely because of competing claims from other countries. The Pacific expansion culminated in the annexation of Hawaii in 1898, after the overthrow of its government five years previously. Alaska, the last major acquisition in North America, was purchased from Russia in 1867. American Samoa was acquired by the United States in 1900 after the end of the Second Samoan Civil War. The United States purchased the U.S. Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917. Puerto Rico and Guam remain territories, and the Philippines became independent in 1946.
Feeling good about the US? What do you call the above? I'd call it pot calling the kettle black.
I don’t think the war of 1812 gave the USA a place on the international scene. During the nineteenth century, the USA largely concentrated on internal affairs, such as the westward expansion and fighting a civil war. There first real role in international affairs was hosting the signing of the treaty that ended the Russo-Japanese in the early twentieth century.
We have so much history. To teach it all would be impossible.
How do you imagine speech was any less free in Canada or England at that time? Bear in mind that Magna Carta was passed in 1215, over five centuries before your independence, and 3 years short of six centuries before 1812, and over those centuries had become rather stronger. Mind you, it's true that elements of it are looking a bit shaky at the moment.
Interesting. I don’t know about now but when I was taught history in high school in Australia in the late 1970s, the French Revolution is always where we started - as the most important event which went on to shape world history. The US War of Independence was just a footnote.
In Brazil we learn as much about our history as about prehistory here and in Europe, because they are connected, practically nothing mentions the USA, because there is nothing to mention historically that is not in WWII,which speaks of all who participated in the real way
The king granted independence,your nation has stagnated ever since commonwealth countries thrived.
One of the reasons I appreciate you is your ability to look at, and try to understand both/all sides of an incident. Keep learning about the world from all perspectives.
As a Brit, I never learned about either the American Revolution or the War of 1812. I never even learned about the British Empire
I'm afraid, Connor, the colonial tax-evaders take up only a small space in our history curriculum.
I was more shocked to learn that probably a quarter of the population of Britain were either killed or enslaved by the Romans after they invaded Britain.
Why are US kids only taught about the history of their land from the arrival of the white man. Why aren't they taught about the long and very interesting history of the indigenous civilizations?
What do you mean by indigenous? Native Americans? Australian Aboriginals? Irish (as in in Ireland not American)? How about teaching world history not just US focussed?
The Point is were the bombs dropped to beat the Russians to it, because if Russia had conquered Japan they would now own it as a military base and the USA couldn't live with that.
It's honestly just 'something else' that happened in British history.
We had a number of civil wars and rebellions before the Colonial Rebellion and later Britain was a little busy in Europe at the time of the War of 1812 dealing with America's ally Napoleon and the French .
You didn't win the war of 1812 we did up here .You need to learn more about Canada and we had free speech to .Where do you think you got t from ?Same people we did .btw we are all cousins
None of you won you stopped fighting losing none of your land that means no one won the war
Surely without the American Revolution the USA would have ended up an independent country just like Canada , Australia and NZ eventually and maybe in front of those time wise.?
The issue about the atomic bombs was not the impact of the bombs themselves (as you say, the firebombing of Tokyo had more impact) but that it was a total bluff. What the Japanese did not know was that the two atomic bombs that the USA has dropped was the totality of their stockpile of the weapons at the time. What the Japanese feared was that the Americans would be dropping one of these bombs each week for several months, when in reality the USA simply had not the stockpile nor production capacity to do this.
The city where I live is over 1,000 years old and once the capital of England.
We are only have one history lesson a week at school. They have to pick and choose.
I think the first battle we learn about really is the battle of Hastings in 1066. Then you have the monarchy etc. We have too long a history to learn everything.
We do learn about other cultures etc. But its just too much to learn. Also its been over 30 years since I was at school.
Why don't the Brits ever talk about Lord North and Parliament It is always blamed on a Figure Head who actually has no power.
Germany's handling of its dark history, since the 70s in any case, would do other nations (especially the US) good! I thought you would have learned more about Germany by now, quite disappointing. He says that Germany has the highest standard, you must not have listened.
I think US history (among other things) education is the worst in the Western world, period.
Around this time, someone was at tuckshop with other volounteer mothers, in australia making school lunches. A mother in a headscarf, rejoiced at the news, saying it's about time. Other mothers were horrified at her attitude.
Ŕe Japan's surrender.. No no no , it WAS due to the Atomic bombs!! Japanese culture is historically built on "the warrior" mentality heavily based on honor - fight on, no surrender!!
AND The fire bombing as you put it, by conventional weapons of the day were NOTHING next to the utter annihilation of the Atomic bomb.
I think you need to research further.
With love & respect from an Aussie woman 63yrs, for personal context of these comments see below.
NOTE my dad was a Japanese POW who was interned in the infamous CHANGI PRISON & forced to work the BURMA RAILWAY, all part of an inhuman "Death March"
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Tens of thousands of Canadians fought in the Union Army during the American Civil War. London was playing footsie with the Confederacy.
With regards to the war of 1812. He says most of the fighting was done by Militia and First Nations. That is not correct, the majority of the fighting was done by the few British regulars and the First Nations. There was involvement of militia units, but they were not the main fighting force. Also, I don't remember spending three months in school learning about the war of 1812.
Not sure where he got his information from.
The guys who did this video actually did a video explaining why you're wrong about Math and Maths being correct, but also explains in it,it's not about it being plural.
18:00 A factor that does not seem to be taught or understood is the US submarine campaign in the Pacific - most of my US friends are oblivious to it. A handful (relatively) of men and boats decimated the Japanese economy and put an economic stranglehold on Japan that throttled her economy. Compare and contrast that with the Battle of the Atlantic where Dönitz's U-boats failed to do the same.
Britain was at war for years in Europe, mainly against Napoleon Bonaparte and the French, the Spanish, also an aggressive enemy. I think the best thing about the American Revolution was 'Hamilton' the musical. I've been to some lovely BBQ's celebrating our joint independence from each other but I am a basic educated English person who wasn't really interested in World history until the 2 world wars.
Re the 1812 war one of the American aims was to take over Canada. They didn't which I take as a win for Canada and Britain!
I'd be more impressed if the presenter of the original video didn't constantly say "England" when he means "Britain".
Irish ☘️ history - 8 pint version,
My short personal version of Irish history.
An indigenous culturally Celtic, Druid led people got converted to Christianity in the 5th Century, by Patrick a Romano Welsh dude. .
By the 7th century monks were doing missionary work in then Saxon England, the English eventually opted for the Roman version, kinda funny later.
Invaded by Vikings ( Norse and Danes) 9th and 10th. They settled mainly Dublin, Wexford and Waterford.
Brian Boru, won a battle with Vikings, but many had settled by then.
Late 12th century - one chieftain in a divided clan based country invited French speaking Anglo/Normans to help him out - this led to more Normans and an English idea of ruling Ireland - they didn’t and Ireland got used to Henry FitzGerald, and Gerald FitzHenry, who were loyal to their possessions - becoming more Irish….
1601 changed everything - Northern Earls - O’Neil and O’Donnell, who had never been unconquered, did a Tottenham at Kinsale.
Earls scarpered, leading to the plantation, (replacement population) by of their northern territories by mostly Scots - this comes back later.
The idea of countries and nations was not on the horizon then, but folk taking your land was.
17th century also led to the zealot Cromwell beating hell out of Irish Catholics to save their souls and reduce the chance of an back door invasion. Murdered loads and exiled many to the west.
Londoners inviting in a Dutch king led to him beating their former Anglo-Scots king at the battle of the boyne. Catholics and Protestants fought on both sides, contrary to what many believe.
More plantation in the north east, and a little in the rest. Religious penal laws led to n English Protestant ascendancy in most of Ireland, with Catholics being disenfranchised of their previous limited rights - not allowed work for they government, or stand for Irish parliament.
1789 - France changed the world - birth of republics and seeds of nationalism. This created a thought revolution - like hippies and to a lesser extent rave, all over Europe.
1798 - Protestant led revolution - slow burn - no wifi or even telegrams
19th century, nationalism grew, emmet, dreamer revolutionary, and Daniel O,connel - Hume like fight for Irish Catholics
Famine - led to huge resentment of English establishment, and the start of a sentimental, but active, bitter, Irish base in New York, Boston - they financed much of the rest 150 years.
20th century, hopefulls, but unlikely win, had uprising, not entirely popular, with Dubs and others who had relations fighting in France. The needless and stupid Kilmainham executions, changed that feeling totally.
Led to post war 26 county Treaty, negotiated by Collins and others. country spilt and civil war,
6 north eastern counties controlled by Protestant, who mostly hated and feared Catholics
Independence in theory for 26 counties , but controlled over time by a repressive Irish catholic clergy.
No Protestant northerner, was interested in joining the poor repressive Republic.
60s - ROI had seeds of economic and social change.
6 counties had MLK inspired civil rights movement against, poor housing, job chances and blatant gerrymandering, on the late 60s. Was met with b-special (RUC branch) brutality.
London sent in british troops as a buffer to sectarianism. IRA - Provos, used this, as recruiting tool, actions led to internment and more recruitment.
Blood Sunday in Derry before internment did this too.
Next 30 - sectarianism, bombing and shooting led to loads of horrible and celebrated shit.
ROI continued to slowly slip away from the Catholic, towards education, jobs and life, using an educated populace and low tax to attract investment.
Last 30. NI peace for most, apart from some deprived loyalist enclaves, who have no money or support.
ROI went from 80% of Uk gdp per capita to 120%, also largely rejecting a clergy who abused and controlled.
My take. Tried to relate objectively - and left out loads.
My synopsis of Irish history - think it’s still too deep and detailed for the sasanachs, one take, with no spell check.
I love the UK and consider them our parent and closest ideological ally (besides underwhelming Canada), but find it so cute that Britain tries to take the “Mick” out of us as much as they do, considering, if they are the parent, they are Jon Voight, and we are Angelina Jolie.
Meanwhile in Sweden: 1814? Yeah, that's the last time we were involved in a war... :)
And, once again, I'm glad to see a nuanced American reaction to these topics. Good job!
Britain has thousands of years of history, the US is a footnote to us.
US "revolution" was just an independance war like many others.
(mostly won by french troops/navy, by the way).
A revolution is a bigger change, not related to colonialism.
Europeans learn about this war against the english colonizers, of course,
(apparently better than US people learn about french revolution)
but they call that independance war, because that's what it is exactly !
European countries had to face many independance wars,
because they had MANY overseas colonies (just like england had)...
Western Europe and Russia.
I agree mate. I know there are allot of factors in the war with us but a win is a win is a win however it happens
Fighting Napoleon was way more important. He’s the reason you drive on the other side of the road too. Dictator Napoleon tells you to drive on that side. Commonwealth stayed driving on the left as it’s safer and not supporting Napoleon.
Brits knew America wouldn't amount to much, so switched their attention to Asia.
Well, Canada actually. While ships were still being built from wood, the forests of Canada were important. There were boatbuilding yards all over Eastern Canada; the new ships were stuffed with more lumber for the trip across the Atlantic.
Once Canada developed enough, the largest transportation company of the world was created. Canadian Pacific Railway had a transcontinental railway w/grand railway hotels, plus two shipping fleets plying the Atlantic & Pacific, so sailing around Cape Horn was no longer necessary to get from London to Hong Kong.
I'm just really happy Scotland was not involved in any of this.
But Scotland is still a colony.
Scotland and France lol...
Being Scottish I am going to assume you were being sarcastic since any other interpretation would suggest you have a less than adequate education
Many Scottish regiments fought in the Revolutionary War, including .
42nd Regiment of Foot (Black Watch)
71st Regiment Regiment of Foot (Royal Highland Emigrants)
73rd MacLeod's Highlander (Highland Light Infantry)
78th Seaforth's Highlanders
81st Highlanders,
77th Athole Highlanders,
Plus, civilian volunteer regiments :
Glasgow Volunteers,
Edinburgh Volunteers,
Hamilton's, Macdonald's, and Gordons.
Dr Franklin supplied 50 year old muskets and money from France, otherwise the continental army would have fallen apart.
I do agree what you said Canadians was straight to America when they took the British side
Looking to Vietnam as a sign of weakening US world power can interestingly be juxtaposed with the UK losing the American War of Independence. Both can show the limits of a world power but neither really show that the power had yet reached its zenith.
I'm french but I know germans are very educated about ww2. I think you misunderstood what was said in the video.
Oh, German education *does* cover the wars extensively.
Connor, I think you misunderstood the message about Germany. Children in Germany learn from a very young age about WWII in detail. Holocaust denial, swastikas and Hitler salutes are not freedom of speech in Germany but considered as crimes. There are multiple TH-cam videos about how the Germans relate to their past.
11/9.
I have given an introductory factual comment regarding 9/11 "for dummies" 2 places on this site, that provides enough facts to reject the official story. Let´s see if it are allowed to stay up or are censored.
We're not telling them to focus on it, Just that We're shocked that they go so far to pretend it didn't happen, We ourselves may perhaps not focus as much as we should on our own bad deeds, But we don't deny them to anything like the Japanese degree either, After all, We like most nations inevitably spin things somewhat, but don't entirely erase them either...
I knew and teach my class about the war of independence, but curiously not the Canadians part in 1812.
Hi, My American pal. A question for you - What did you win? Re - watch this without talking over the narration and you will manage to learn that he was not always against what you were thinking. To bring in 9/11 is just ignorance.
If we wanted to we would have won
You didn’t win Canada
It's mad how history is between different countries, lucky we are allied ❤😂
Evening connor , hope your doing well 😊
Everything is a footnote in British classrooms - my kids learnt the Tudors, some Victorian social history and bits of the Second World War.
In Ireland we learnt from the Neolithic times to the mid 20th century - with no skips - Druids, monks, Vikings … ill post my 5 min Irish history at the bottom, written one night while pissed (drunk)
We also learnt Roman, Byzantine, French, English, some Spanish, and some New world - no Asian, but most Irish kids know more British history than Brits - even the 7% who pay to get a 40m start in a 100m sprint. I’m on
a rant at the dude. Bet he’s the one who criticised yanks for zee, not zed.
It would almost certainly be it's own country without the war (and maybe even years after if they lost), it would have just probably come after Aus and Canada gained their independence.
16:37 I get it too, but I think the point is that all nations bend the facts a bit, but Japan's denial of events is next level.
@ThornyLittleFlower This is what is called 'face'. Takes too long to describe. However, the recent TV series Shogun shows some elements. You can not ascribe Western values to Asiatic cultures.
They lost a lot of 'Face', and that needs a lot of gracious leading to make a fundamental change.
Maybe in the next generation this can change.
God save America! God save the King!
Some people doesn't like to know the truth sometimes
Well Mathematics covers all the Math's, which is a plural. A single study ie geometry or calculus is a single ...or a...Math.
😊 It's one thing to wage war on another soil, but another to be where the War is wedge...
Well, that ended strange...
Why do the Americans insist on pronouncing the word 'era' as error? It is "earah"
do u get taught about usa's agent orange? that ur still in legal battle for the generations of mutant children?
i drove my history teacher mad bringing in projects about things uk need t regret lol
Hahhahaha mate beat momebt in the video “traitor” hahahah brilliant
History is written by the victor and to a certain bias. Its not that strange to think of it that way.
Dont forget the deceitful Dr Franklin.
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Take a leeson!
I don’t think they’re taught about the holocaust at all. They wouldn’t ignorantly call people Nazis at the drop of a hat if they did. Or Mussolini and Fascism. Whether you like Trump or not, he’s not killed millions of innocent people like AH.
I'm so happy Donald trump was born after we lost the war and not before. Just imagine if we were dealt such a blow as an English Donald trump. If nothing else, the war was worth losing to prevent that from happening.
Japan would have fought to the death, millions of deaths
This vid lad is a bit of a spoon.
I learnt about US history in my own time - 13 colonies - Boston, Paul Revere - the lot. The Spanish introducing horses to plains Indians. Second oldest US city - not east or west coast.
Math or Maths - petty.
It was fought to self govern - if the gentry had been given seats in the parliament, it would have been delayed, but not for long.
By the centennial, not long after the civil war, the US Had multicultural east coast cities and west coast Chinese had met West coast Irish, having built ….. you know all this, but s do I as an average Dubliner.
Dislike arrogant English pseudo historians.
But your great Connor.
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I find it funny that British people
Complaine about not pronouncing
English words right but white people can't seem to pronounce anyone else's language right.
I bet if I ask you how do you say these word "Kareoke, Karate" I'd be you get it wrong 😊 lol
The American revolution was almost a first civil war, yes the British were expelled but whole families were divided by the war & the ordinary British soldiers got along with the Americans, many Americans being decendents of the british anyway.
One thing is certain at the time of the war the anti British Americans invented a lot of propaganda to blacken the British, as a recruitment Sargent, this was continued in Hollywood & most recently mel Gibson potraying the British as baby eating monsters, snarling & arrogant.
Im sure some individuals could have been pretty nasty but this overall narrative is largely untrue.
Not long into the 19th century Canada got its independence from Britain & later Australia & New Zealand. South Africa had a armed conflict with Britain, but Britain didnt want to commit troops for a long war with any of these countries.
Into the 20th century Britain released most of its colonies without ,largely ,any wars, so much so theses former colonies joined the commonwealth & remained friendly with Britain to this day.
Never understood the Columbus thing you guys have over there, he is not even American and he did not discover Americas. I believe that was the migrating Egyptian tribes a very long time ago who eventually became the Native Indian and also African tribes were all across already in America lol
A little similar with Russia or America saying they won WW2 when Britain done all the hard work 😂 Now you know how that feels 😂
North east asians. Egyptians 😅