The Power of Cartoon Violence
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Watching Invincible got me thinking about Cartoon Violence, its unique power as an artistic tool, and also how friggin rad it is. Especially in Akira, and other 80s Anime.
Chapters:
0:00 They Fight, They Bite
2:53 ExpressVPN
4:16 A History of Cartoon Violence
13:34 Akira
18:37 Invincible
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Honestly with the amount of shit that some cartoon characters (like Tom from Tom and Jerry) have survived, you'd really think they'd have to be in-
*TITLE CARD*
*blood splashes*
*slow clap*
lmaoo I love this comment
Calm down, James 😳
*Laughs in Mortadelo y Filemón*
Invincable is the very rare case of a “Superman is evil” plot that’s not a bunch of nihilistic edge lord BS and actually doesn’t suck. There hasn’t been one of those since the Justice Lords storyline in the Justice League cartoons.
On some degree red son was like that
The boys does that well also, but in a very different way
Another thing to note that another TH-camr pointed out was how Omni-Man wasn’t the Superman analogue in Invincible, Mark was. Invincible isn’t an evil Superman story, it’s a Smallville story where we get to see this world’s Superman slowly and continuously gain strength and wisdom to ultimately be his planet’s protector.
@@andrewpye7459 the comic is shit tho
It has to be the juxtaposition. When I was younger I did watch cartoons with violence in them (ie Ben 10, Generator Rex), yet it was usually harmless and characters can still fight after receiving frankly absurd injuries. Therefore, I became conditioned to believe that violence in cartoons was never going to have serious repercussions or weight behind it. So when this medium that is usually associated with being safe and sanitised, suddenly introduces the bone-breaking reality of combat, it can be quite jarring to see.
The fact that Invincible looks so much like a colourful, fun DCAU show definitely goes a long way toward making its bloodiest blows hit harder.
@@mothersbasement *Think think!, did you really thing I wouldn't be the person i said i would become"
ah yes, generator rex
@@aaaaii6511 think
@@dim4s482 GOOD SHIT!
"If someone made a hitman that was cel shaded and all the kills were bloodier tom and jerry gags, I would play that forever."
Can I introduce you to Naughty Bear?
Naughty Bear was so close. If it was a little more polished and open it could have been amazing.
@@mothersbasement I'm sure you considered it, but Mad World on switch is kinda in that lane, in case you hadn't come across it. Great Vid!
Edit: Mad World on Wii. Switch has achieved console hegemony in my brain, so I just filled in the blank.
Invincible violence hits different, there are reasons for it, it's always dramatic, it's not gratuitous
I wouldn't say it's not gratuitous, but otherwise, I agree!
@@mothersbasement I think the gratuitousness is part of the point, honestly. When Mark or other heroes are fighting, it's a lot tamer and more relaxed, and when horrible shit happens its treated with gravitas. But when Omniman, the Flaxons, or Battle Beast, all war-hungry conquerors, fight it's brutal, gratuitous, and horrifically gory. It's a good way to emphasize the sheer horror and evil of that they're ultimate goals are, and the cost of imperialism in human lives, because we see those lives carelessly thrown away with barely a care.
I think Invincible is just like most optimistic super hero comics but acknowledges the gory/dark implications in the genre.
None of that edgy grim-dark nonsense that DC pulls, and that's why it works so well.
@@DragonKing830 Exactly its also a great expose on how facist wickedness can get people killed.
@@DragonKing830 Comic based spoilers...
Battlebeast isn't actually a bad guy. He's his people's greatest hero and the strongest member of his own species. He's such a powerful warrior that even none of his own kind can come close to matching him. What he is is bored and looking for an actual challenge and ultimately someone strong enough to beat and kill him. As a result he eventually joins up with the heroes in their cause. Which does eventually lead to his wish being granted.
If violence doesn't solve your problems, you're not using enough of it.
- Zaraki Kenpachi
Fuck i love Kenpachi.
@@joshshrum2764 Same he is one of my favorite Bleach characters
That YTV Viewer Discretion Warning hit me in the Nostalgia
ME TOO JESUS CHRIST, wasnt expecting that, is MB Canadian?
@@joshuasummers7554 I'm pretty sure Geoff is from Vancouver.
Those were the days
Well I was expecting him to mention the violence in Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
@@beanbeater Especially that iconic scene showing the horrors of the battlefield
"A near-immortal psycho Superman learning what love is..."
In other words, what the actual Superman already knows.
That's the important thing about the evil superman trope: it always lacks the core of Clark Kent/Kal-El's character, leaving only the powers.
What the evil superman trope does, when done right, is remind us of what is important not only to Superman's character, but superhero fiction as a whole: the "hero" part.
Megamind
Animated violence. It just hits different. In the best ways when it's done right!
Jujutsu Kaisen *cough cough*
@@connorrussell6449 I tried to get into Jujutsu Kaisen... It's just all plot lines I've seen before in a new wrapper. Not that it's inherently bad, I can tell it's a damn good show. It's just that the characters kinda grate on me and I'm kind of worn out with the exact kind of story its telling. If that's your(both the person I'm replying to and anyone reading this) kind of thing? Cool! I'm glad it's out there for you. Me? I'm just kind of burnt out on that sort of show for now, but I'm still willing to watch it here and there.
@@natsume-hime2473 Mind elaborating on a few plot lines? I'm thinking about trying the show out but, like you, I'm kind of worn out by certain stories being repeated at this point and a heads-up might help sway my decision.
@@Takejiro24 Just watch it and try to decide for yourself? If you don't like it just drop it and move on.
@@Takejiro24 the yuyu hakasho ish thing. Mc with inner demon troupe.
Jjk does it perfectly tho
As someone whose literal spent his whole life watching The Simpsons from the early 90's to even modern day Simpsons, Itchy and Scratchy is still always funny when the mouse put the bomb in the cat mouth and it go boom.
Literally
I always found Itchy and Scratchy to be distasteful, but I grew up with stuff like Tom and Jerry. Where the character who started the fight was invariably the one who lost. Either that, or they'd fight to a stand still, then realize that the reason they were fighting was an outside factor. Which they'd team up against. I also grew up with stuff like Ren and Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, and South Park to name a few. Not to mention tons and tons of anime. Where violence always had a context. So I've never found cartoon violence and gore for its own sake funny. The context is required to make it funny.
@@natsume-hime2473 More than that I especially dislike Suffering-Porn.
At least in mindless violence you can adjust your valuation of the characters so as to "be ready for anything"... But in suffering porn they just show horrible things randomly happening to valuable things, without ever actually "earning" the right to do so. I don't know how else to describe it but they always end up cheapening the suffering and violating the valuable.
Sword Art Online is one perfect example of this, what they did to Asuna was a complete turn off from the entire story for me.
Invincible had a really good Training sequence as well
Yeah 'train' ing
@@achyuthanil1641 😂
Animated violence just look more gory,it looks so good compared to people exploding in real life
Real life splatter physics don't pay much heed to shot composition
You can enter 4chan and watch real footage of people exploding, and yeah isn't cinematic.
@@gurentgc3546 Yeah, makes you realize just how fragile we all are.
@@lizerdspherex dude i have seen that subreddit called "MakeMyCoffin" and there are soo much videos of workers getting stuck in giant iron machines and is like we are made out of mashmellows
@@abdulkarimelnaas7595 yeah. This is a morbid topic so I'm gonna get morbid here- first time I saw a video of someone getting shot in the head, I didn't think it was real because it looked like jiggly rubber. If a movie did that, it would just look really cheesy. Someone would probably start complaining about the crappy effects :P
Invincible was the most artistically justifiable feeling graphic violence I've seen since Saving Private Ryan. Portraying the actual horror of the violence us genre fans sometimes lose perspective on.
What about Primal
It focuses on making the violence really ugly, which makes different to what we are used to
The thing with micro transactions isn't just that kids are vulnerable to them but also some adults with addictive personalities, Jim Sterling often talks about how and how much these "mechanics" are predatory
I’m glad that the film Akira was featured here since not many people really bring up how the production went through hell creating such a masterpiece.
Not to mention how it still holds up considering how it was released in the 90’s, really shows how genuine the project has been throughout those years of development.
Yet it pains me to see that not a whole lot of people talk about it, but at the same time it rightfully earns it’s place for being such a mind blowing experience.
The sound mixing was *horrible*. There's a lot of things in that film that should be making sounds but aren't, or do so too late.
Dude, people constantly talk about Akira, when it comes to film/anime history or other things that it fits it. It’s not an unknown mostly forgotten indie title.
It gets referenced constantly in one way or another.
Not saying it’s bad, just that people still talk about it.
It's from the 80s actually.
Yeah that movie Is basicly the citizen kane of anime.
TH-cam: “You cant make a video about Blood and Gore and expect it to be monetized! THINK JEFF, THINK!”
I got a ad
@@desmondbuffalo9890 Oh they'll put ads on demonitized videos. Geoff just won't see a penny of it.
@@natsume-hime2473 That's pretty messed up
Animated violence makes the Shonen go round, Shonen go round, Shonen go round, as well as the Goku fans scream, all day long
Don’t forget about Saitama or war will be on our horizon.
IT is weird indeed. Everywhere I comment, people tell me how much they love me and my content. Sometimes IT is annoying. But right now, IT would be okay. So say something nice about my content, dear ev
Nice Kaiji profile pic
@@AxxLAfriku I like to eat concrete
@David Dupont anime is animation.
Shows like primal comes to my mind.
I love it when violence has weight in shows rather than just being a blender of constant red.
Higurashi.
That shows is already highly rated, and still manages to be underrated.
can't wait for season 2
@@maximiliansinigr3505 Is that the fingernail one!
Omni-man's arc was so good I think it'll well outlast the meme for me, even though that one Cave Johnson lemon speech dub is an absolute riot.
" Great Value Justice League". Dude, that was a good one.
Geoff: "This is the part where I'm legally obligated to inform you that I'm a professional anime fan."
TFS DBZA Piccolo: "NERRRRRD!"
YAAA that YTV disclaimer CANADA Represent!
The beautiful thing about Invincible will be shown in the next season, how much of an impact Mark was to Nolan, that he was willing to change his ways because he learned to care for another living thing.
Oh my God. I see you everywhere, and you're always hopping on the latest trend. Stop being a bandwagoner; internet likes aren't everything.
I bet if Invincible or another series you bandwagoned on was suddenly viewed as trash by the majority that you would suddenly change your opinion as well just to fit in.
@@zomebody5529 It might just be that you share a lot of the same interests. Coincidence is a thing after all.
@@natsume-hime2473 I never even watched Invincible. I just know that it's trending right now. I watched this video because it had other things besides Invincible.
@@zomebody5529 Oh no, someone agrees with 99% of people. How horrible that they would be normal and talk about it. /s
@@zomebody5529 Yeah that doesn't actually address the point I was making. It's likely, that because you share interests, you see the OP a lot. Meaning you gravitate to the same circles. The way you lashed out and then got defensive over it though... Not to sound means but that sounds like you're projecting. Maybe you might want to look at yourself before taking needless shots at other people.
If Powerpuff Girls taught us anything, violence is rad.
Also check out this Ben 10/MHA crossover fic that I've been reading called Heroes Never Die It's Hero Time. Surprisingly fun read.
;)
Looting is rad to
I wasn't expecting to see a reading recommendation here but I'm happily surprised.
Ah Ben 10 years passed without hearing this legendary name
@@levylost8550 I mean we did have the 2016 reboot which recently ended but the art-style might turn you off
I never noticed the cg background characters in invincible. The show was so good that I completely blanked them out
The only time I noted it was with the aliens that the teen group fought.
I never really noticed them either. I was focused on the characters that were... You know, in focus.
And it's a bullshit criticism considering they actually put in work to make the background characters unique. You can freeze frame on every person before they're turned to mush and you can tell someone took the time to make a design first. It's a very skewed stance to take when most anime just copy-paste the same three models again and again and again. Invincible made sure that just about every person close enough to really see die on screen has some personality so it isn't just waves of faceless bugs being stomped.
Kind of the point of the violence that Invincible is addressing in comics, the fact that superhero hyper violence is obsessed with destruction and making the superheroes "heroic" while they don't actually do much to emphasize that they're saving people. There are so many quirky background characters in Invincible and Jeff decides to attack that while giving a pass to much worse animation because it's japanese.
sure
Jeff, this is the first time I’ve ever stopped a video to avoid spoilers, watched the entire show, and came back to finish the video. I don’t know if I should thank you or be upset you influenced my actions lol
Great video btw
Yo, which show was it tho 👀
@@lucasritter1252 Amazon's adaptation of Invincible. The ending of the first episode drew me in to find out what was going to happen next. The pacing was great, plot was intriguing, and it subverted many common tropes. Definitely recommend if you haven't seen it.
“Sorry, didn’t mean to get political there.”
Did I click on the wrong channel??? Sure sounds like Geoff to me!
the only way i can stand disembowlment, bifurcation, and vivisection
I just break the words down so I can understand it.
What do you mean by "bifurcation" ?
In French this word is use for roads...
@@ousou78
bifurcation
/bʌɪfəˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
the division of something into two branches or parts.
"the bifurcation of the profession"
You don't get to speak unless you become a world super power baguette boy.
"Trapped in express vpn"
Me: *pants in relief* phew.. Thought it was raid shadow legends
Finally got around to watching Akira a few weeks ago. I’ve seen a lot of films in my (still pretty brief) lifetime, but I legitimately have not seen anything like Akira before. I’m going to be thinking about that movie for a long time.
It’s a masterful movie, also it has a manga so everything you saw in the movie, isn’t the entire story, so i definitely recommend reading it, but admittedly i have to as well, but i just know the movie is just half of it.
@Locke Dunnegan I have the DVD, but I haven’t gotten the chance to watch it. I have seen Millennium Actress by the same director, though. Satoshi Kon really is in a league of his own.
11:54
"If you haven't seen the Jojo OVA fight you need to check the second-"
*ZA WARUDO*
'Twenty-Four minutes have now passed and I have finished observing the OVA fight, quite the spectacle. Now time shall resume'
"-this video..."
“A bunch of thoughtless bureaucrats senselessly send their own citizens to be slaughtered by a natural disaster that they totally could have contained if they weren’t to busy getting ready to make bank on the Tokyo 2020 Olympics.”
🙃 yeah good thing that didn’t happen in real life 🙃
Thank you for putting Omni-Man and King Bradley in the same video, Omni-Man's design reminded me of Bradley and I couldn't for the life of me figure out *who* his design looks like.
"It's violent! And educational. But mostly violent! YAY VIOLENCE!"
Eternally greatful for you reccomending these 80s hyper violent ova's. More people need to watch these kinds of things. A bunch of them are ripped on TH-cam.
Another good OVA is Area 88. The third part is the one with the most gore, but the whole thing has a really good story behind it
@@Tigershark_3082 I'll look into it, in return While it's not so violent I'd reccomend the movie Ai city. It's on TH-cam and uses colors masterfully with the 80s anime art style :)
@@casablanca6754 I'll check it out! Thanos for listening, and for the recommendation!
This is why I love animated fights so much. The fact that all of this meticulous time and effort went into making every bit of action feel intense and personal. Because fighting in the moment to moment 'is' personal.
"War , What is it good for "
- Jablinski of Jablinski games.
I love war! -hellsing
I think one of the first things people need to learn is the difference between combat violence and gore violence,
I can't stand gore and will be squeamish every time it is used directly or unnecessarily in a fight.
But I did grow up watching the action movies pre 2000, and I never wanted to re-enact it like other parents thought,
because my parents taught me that it bad to use violence unless in self defence.
I did however want to learn more about the martial arts styles used and admire the short-range and long range weapons.
I even bought the Three Kingdoms books because I wanted to see how close to the real history Dynasty Warriors was.
That probably solves the contradiction I’ve been thinking about. I can play Warframe and gleefully somersault through a hailstorm of evil imperialists’ limbs, but I had to look away from my phone for any of Jeff’s commentary on 80s OVAs or Invincible.
There’s something about watching a person suffer and realize they’re going to die excruciatingly that kicks the light switch on a lot of my own irl trauma. I couldn’t speak for hours after Oberyn Martell died in GoT because I was having too many flashbacks.
"If someone made a Cel-shaded Hitman game with bloodier gags, I would play that forever."
I don't always agree with your takes, but God DAMN do I agree with this one.
Yo the first 10 minutes of Elfen Lied was the pinnacle of effective anime gore. That single scene hits perfectly.
"with the exception of one headshot in 1945"
YES
"The only thing Invincible has going for him over other animated superheroes is the sheer amount of blood on his costume." No. What the show has going for it is impeccable writing. Best superhero coming-of-age series in the history of the comic industry, and the animated series is a reasonably faithful adaptation of it.
Capcom doesn't hate Ethan Winters hands, they just think it would be more efficient for them to be a desktop organizer as well as appendages
Or so he can be those disinbodied hands in hentai.
The fucking train scene in the Invincible Season Finale is some shit that's gonna stay with me. Lol.
This is gonna be good.
It was
My favorite OVA and I wish it had a true conclusion, was 3x3 Eyes
Definitely my favorite but never hear anyone mention it. I still think about the scene where he comes back now having a bit of powers after the time skip. That scene still sticks with me decades later.
Animation just has the amazing ability to sell impact. To this extent any large marvel fight, while visually amazing allways feels lacking something for me, whilst any top tier animated fight will get me standing on the edge of my seat
With animation you can focus on a lot while working on a single frame and plan what should be before and/or after it. Do you add more frames to a hand moving back and forming a fist and less to the eventual impact scene to show how much power that punch has? It's so inspiring to think what the animators thought in that process 🤩
Oh man, the first ten seconds is basically "Tell me you're a Canadian Millennial without saying you're a Canadian Millennial"
Place your bets on which will come first: MAPPA's Chainsaw Man anime; or MB's video essay on Chainsaw Man?
If they are gonna do CSM they have to do the violence stylish, like i don't care if they have to do the blood Green or yellow like in devilman, when i saw the panels of that manga i just imaginé nothing but pure gory mayhem that a single panel isn't enough to capture. Kinda like the Ralph Bakshi Aproche of beeing More abstract with the fluidity of violence, don't do still pictures like in Seven deadly sins or the shaman king reboot, or repeating the same panels over and over again like in dragon ball super or the second season of one punch Man.
I'm still waiting for the What's In a Waifu videos on the rest of the MHA girls lol
@@motor4X4kombat I'm happy as long as they adapt it without censoring anything honestly
@@ry.3779 also i really expect they make it a miniseries of 30 episodes like death note, i don't really see the point of making it seasonal since the manga Is too short.
While I'm fine with realistic gore in places, I also find that if I want to watch something gory, I want it to be artistically or even comically gory. Like, in Dracula; Dead and Loving It, when a stake through the heart just lets loose geysers of blood with much more PSI than would reasonably be expected.
I always used to jokingly refer to OVA as "Overly Violent Anime", and would hold up things like Mad Bull 34.
But really, I appreciate you making this video to discuss not only the artistic merit of animated violence, but also its entertainment value. Because people often seem to forget that entertainment is supposed to entertain us; not just educate, not just make us aware, but also to entertain.
I like a lot of unrealistic stuff in general because it helps me escape from reality though i know from Evangelion, that becoming to detached from reality is a bad thing, but keeping the line between reality, and fiction is probably the best you can hope for.
8:55: ...and other formats, to some extent, because the term "OVA" is also used to refer to animated productions which postdate VHS/laserdisc becoming obsolete, yet which weren't broadcast as part of a series and don't qualify as movies. (I assume they were released on DVD or something like that, but when people talk about e.g. the Hero Academia OVA's I don't exactly rush to check their publication history. I just assume they're talking about one of the bits that isn't an episode and isn't a movie.)
Technically many are ONA original net animation
The way the cop does a little flip at 7:11 and how hard I laughed at that is proof that it's always funny when the man fall down.
“After openings” I can’t even remember the last time you did a “What’s in an OP” video.
Fun fact: The Jojo OVA was my and my friends' first introduction to Jojo's as a whole. Zero regrets 😁
It’s about to be mine too
Considering how annoying Jojo fans are, that should be a regret.
Man I grew up on ova's in the 90s. Ninja Scroll, demon city, Guyver, devilman, ghost in the shell and of course Akira. Everyone should go back and check out those early shows
God, I can't forget Ed pulling the pipe from his stomach, really sold the moment for me
The first anime I saw was Akira and I was so amazed at the level of art that I became hooked on anime. All of it was hand drawn and beautiful. Now most anime seems so basic and cartoonish. It's one of the reason I have a hard time finding anime that draws me in.
Same here. There's just a certain look to hand drawn that digitally drawn art just doesn't have. sure its smoother and maybe more vibrant, But it looses something in that transition. I've always loved hand drawn cartoons/anime and movies.
it just sucks that they aren't viable much anymore due to cost and time constraints. Let alone the ever shrinking ability to keep the knowledge of how to do it alive.
I'd love for america to actually say fuck it and make good cartoons again. Not just kid cartoons with the same identical style, I mean a variety of cartoons. I want adult oriented cartoons, I want legit horror cartoons and everything in between. I'd love to see shows that have a different look to them again unless it was from an individual creator.
The closest thing i've gotten recently was Primal, It has the signiture look of its predecessor Samurai Jack, But is it's own thing and has nice horror elements and gore.
well you are comparing weekly production based anime shows to years long production anime FILM with different creative goals
@@asscake1849 I think it has to do with the studio. example is Dragon Ball which is 40 yrs old vs. Deca-Dence. They put so much effort into making the cgi look good that the hand drawn human characters look flat and bland where DB is slightly better for its age. There are no shadows around the brow, nose and lips to give them depth, but DB has that depth in a lot of close up shots. DB was also trying to keep up with the manga but still managed to do a decent job for the time they had.
I don't know what your point is,
You said anime nowdays don't have as much detail as things in the past such as akira when that is far from the truth, in which I guessed maybe you were refering to average TV Anime compared to Akira which isn't fair considering they have very different time schedules and creative goals since anime films have a way bigger schedule and budget than compared to a tightly scheduled tv anime that just comes out weekly
A better comparison would be something like Makoto Shinkai films such a Your Name which has breath taking backgrounds and animation and a dedicated production team and director like Akira did. And modern Tv anime looks and really good too if not better than old 90s/80s anime like Violet Evergarden, Vinland Saga, Demon Slayer, and many more
Animated violence and extreme gore can be woefully uncomfortable to watch. But nothing, NOTHING, will ever make me cringe into a ball of fearful disgust as "Amon The Apocalypse of Devilman" did.
The Miki stuff was real grim in crybaby too...
@@FFKonoko It fucking killed me man, not because I’m bothered by the imagery, but it’s just fucked up, it’s also just really sad when Lucifer, sees Akira’s, body is just a torso, and that he’s dead.
I always enjoy it when you cover Western animation
What I love about the bloody violence in Invincible is how jarring it is to see in a show with an art style and animation that's so reminiscent of older superhero cartoons like Teen Titans, Ben 10, and Justice League.
"Way more brutal than you can imagine" -shows omniman from Invincible- oh man I'm already having flashbacks to the subway scene.
The animated violence in 'Waltz with Bashir' was great in a horrifying way. Everything generally looked extremely realistic. The ways the dead bodies looked captured the dirty, disheveled, and "spilled out" look that real dead bodies have. It both adds to the horrific nature of the violence while removing the viewer from real-world violence. The movie uses this removal masterfully in its ending scene to have a very good anti-war message.
Geoff excellent video as always! But it reminded me to plead with you for an Animelee for Castlevania season 4 episode 9! Never has a fight scene hit me with so much emotional connection since All Might United states of smashed his way into our hearts. And heres the thing: the fight is THE ENTIRE EPISODE. it doesn’t let up from about 15 seconds into the episode until the very end.
That pronunciation of _"Akira"_ is Oscar worthy.
Geoff, what're you doing to me with that YTV viewer discretion opening!? It feels like I was sent back to 2006!
I've barely started and you're already bringing back childhood memories with that intro Goeff. Time to sit back for a good time.
The first anime I ever saw was Ninja Scroll... and I got hooked 👍
Yo same
There’s just something so visceral with Animated Violence that just seems so much more powerful than Real Violence.
My bf and I finished watching invincible yesterday and I just finished reading akira today, this video is fate :0
2:22 "artistic renditions of the horrific conditions" best anime youtube rapper.
How could you not bring up the cursed final episode of Blood C?
animated blood never makes me legs go all loosy like the real deal so will always preffer the animated ver^^
Oof. That show made me squeamish like nothing else i've seen (or read), be it Berserk, Elfen Leid, Gantz, or Akira. I think it's not just the gratuitous gore, but the suggestion of violence we can't see directly (and is left to our imagination). Like the hotdog scene in Babylon.
I've been waiting forever for someone to talk about this show.
I had been on the fence about trying yasuke, but now that you mention mechs in feudal Japan, I'm sold!
Watership Down and The Plague Dogs are great examples of early Western violence in animation while still being a brilliant piece of art.
Imagine Not being Canadian and watching that Intro lmfao
I honestly am in awe and admiration of how you can put the mumbo jumbo in my head into an eleoquently spun video that expands on what my thoughts are and then some, and the brilliant editing to go with it is just perfection honestly! And I definitely do think anime that has gore has its own niche, like some of the more recents like gleipnir and even tokyo ghoul, no matter how bad the adaptation got, have their own place in my heart for just the sheer artistic brutality that made me double take when watching. Like half the time the violence isn't needed but what the heck lets just throw it in is what I believe the creators thought at the time and I ain't complaining! Great video once again!
I came here for the invincible thumbnail hoping there'd be a talk on western anime and how far is come. I'm instead walking away with more good anime recommendations. You got me good Geoff, you got me good.
I said out loud dammit i have to watch so many animes ughhuhhh.
That first 10 seconds brought me so much nostalgia...
Only other Canadians will understand
Finally an anituber making content about invincible, such a good show.
God I love the old OVA anime Era. So many precious gems, so many amazing nightmares and dumpster fires
I gotta say, it warms my heart whenever I hear Free’s incredible ost used in videos. Geoff uses it pretty frequently and even though I know it’s not likely with the series finale on its way I’m hoping for just a liiiitle bit of content about it? The show has so much more to it than people give it credit for, the animators and writing staff and more than anything the actors just poured their souls into it and people usually drop it after the first few episodes just because they’re shirtless.
Aot has great violence. Now I think about it, that was one of the things that hooked me up and made aot different from other generic shounen.
@White Amerikkka’s Worst nightmare get your facts straight, aot was published in a shounen magazine so it's technically a shounen series but yeah it's more like a seinen if we look at the plot and characters but it's still a shounen.
Well it was my first.
Never clicked so fast! Love your videos dude.
i love the way you talk and explain things, especially the alliteration you use!
I like that you used the YTV “viewer discretion is advised” ID. it was my childhood
I JUST finished watching invincible and this video is perfect timing
"Quality above all else, quantity be damned"
You hear that? That's the sound of Bennet The Sage laughing his ass off at the notion that 90% of anime OVAs weren't just exploitative schlock with slightly nicer animation and nothing behind the eyes
I love Bennet the Sage, but he is overly hard at times on anime. I've gone back and watched a few anime where he spent a half hour roasting it, only to go, this has more than maybe he was looking for or willing to talk about. Which is fine, I can't watch Megalobox or Invincible (so fucking sick of superhero stories), we all have our opinions. So basically, yeah, agree with you.
@@benjamingardner3314 I personally adored invincible, but yeah, while I wouldn't trust bennet at all when it comes to anything comedic or approaching shonen because if it doesn't star people with back problems who are crushed by existential ennui, he bounces right off, I've gone and watched a lot of the OVAs he's covered over the years
A lot of them really are shit XD
@@benjamingardner3314 Tbf, most of what he reviews is old schlock and he has videos where he does reviews on newer shows and praises them for doing stuff better than the anime he grew up with.
@@benjamingardner3314 Megalobox isn't a superhero story, it's more or less a sports anime with a dystopian/post apocalyptic twist.
I paused this video 3 days ago to go watch Invincible so I could watch the rest without spoiling that for me.
Sooo worth it. I just finished and I'm about to read a comic for the first time in years. (Injustice years 1-5 are the only thing I've ever read before, comic-wise.)
Nice video reel while you talked. Great production value.
I was JUST thinking about this! Damn, Geoff, quit reading my mind. Also hell yeah, first 100 views.
constantly refresing youtube until this guy has a video for me
Nice video Geoff, keep it up.
This might be your best video holy shit that Akira anaylises was on point
I don't think there is a single animated feature or piece of media that aged better than Akira. Even 100 years from now it'll _still_ remain the masterpiece that it is. The animation of Akira is simply _flawless._
The themes are equally as timeless. Societal collapse, bureaucratic corruption, military dominance, and the overwhelming responsibilities of growing up will remain relevant until the heat death of the universe.
You should really take a look at vivy: fluorite eye's song. The animation in the action scenes and the fight choreography is insane
And the OP is like woah! Really good soundtrack!
He did. He reccommended it for this season.
@@PredictableEnigma ik but i want a dedicated video 🤪
I was honestly shocked that I actually got an ad on this video with the content lmao! Happy I did though, you deserve the money for an awesome video!
1:55 I appreciate the Angel Cop reference here.
One of the most under rated animes of all time.
What was the first anime one he showed
@@4mallyknownas 1:46? That's Battle Angel Alita
Damn it, I was supposed to go to bed.
you shoulda thought about that before living in that time zone
Even less graphic violence, when used in the right show, can be a really powerful tool. Take Amphibia, for instance. (Season 2 finale spoilers!)
Marcy getting stabbed made my jaw drop to the fucking floor. Yes, she’s not actually dead, as we see in the season 3 opening, but holy shit! A child got run through with a sword on screen in a Disney show!!
And the best part is that it makes perfect sense for Marcy’s character arc. The main characters getting isekai’d was 100% her fault, and she’s spent most of her time on screen being completely oblivious about the serious danger she put everyone in, and not really understanding the suffering she put her friends through by doing so. Getting murdered during her “fun adventure” by the guy she blindly trusted without thought is the perfect reality check that just wouldn’t have the same impact as a lesser consequence. Just, ahhh! It’s so good.
Seriously people go watch Amphibia. It’s so good
I kinda had a similar moment watching adventure time when I was younger. The show had plenty of villains through its run, and while some of them could be real asses they were mostly goofy, and kept to the general lightheartedness of the show.
And then the Lich showed up.
Whenever he shows up it holds weight. While the Lich isn't graphic you know when he shows up someone is being maimed, traumatized, or even straight killed. A Lich encounter leaves an impact whenever he shows up.
Yeah, not as graphic stuff can still be gut wrenching like seeing a character turn into sand in Infinity Train 👍.
Man I really want more of that show
@@MillyKKitty agreed
Y’know how PG-13 movies can only say ‘fuck’ one time? So they have to wait for the most impactful moment to drop that F bomb? It’s like that.
I can’t do too much gratuitous violence because it gives me phantom pains and trauma flashbacks, but it’s brilliant when a piece of media for middle schoolers ups the ante with a pool of honest-to-god human blood. The young audience and the hero go, ‘oh god what, this was supposed to be a magical adventure why is it suddenly terrifying?!’
@@Densoro I think seeing dark/gruesome stuff in a movie is like getting punched. In a horror movie for example you know what your here for so you brace for impact. But in a G or PG movie you don't expect it so it hits you more.
I like how you implicitly acknowledge that Invincible is this decades modern anime
"You should know that the video your trapped in"
Wait a minute. I didn't know this was an isekai