"I don't know how to run a newspaper Mr Thatcher, I just try everything I can think of." Perfectly mirrors how Welles made this film - and it paid off.
A lot of success is the result of trial-and-error. Some people don’t have the time or resources to do it long enough. And others just don’t have the will.
@@issi529 you idiot,tell me what movie better than citizen Kane in modern days,lotr? social network? Shawshank Redemption?pulp fiction? inglourious 😂?fight club?not even close 😂
People focus so much on the stellar direction and novel cinematography of Kane that it's easy to overlook just how fantastic the acting is in this film. Absolutely flawless.
“I don’t know how to run a newspaper, Mr. Thatcher, I just try everything I can think of.” This quote alone is why I find Kane to be such a fascinating character. He doesn’t care how he’ll be judged, he doesn’t care if he’ll make a profit off of what he’s doing; he wants to try and do something so he does it without a care as to whether or not it’ll work out. I envy that kind of boldness.
Not only the mountain of money alone, but the fact that as he thought it would be fun to run a newspaper, he is toying with it and the people that affects
I don’t like it. Most of orson Welles movies have that but it doesn’t work for me. Most of the time I get confused and don’t understand what is happening.
Not one cut in the scene until the very end with the great line about sixty years. Most directors would have shot close ups of both men, and put in reaction shots of the crowd while their voices rise. But this is part of the film's originality and Welles' theater background. He knew that if you stayed with the scene it would be like the viewer is in the room.
Multiple shots weren't invented at the time this film was made. The use of multiple shots certainly most engages and adds more emotional elements to films. The latter was an innovation.
Please, standard Hollywood coverage was the master, mediums and close ups. Welles was using a different mise en scene. And it not only worked, it made other directors look sick.
The best and most telling line of the film is when Charles addresses mr. Bernstein and says “if I hadn’t been born rich, I might have been a great man”.
This is probably my favorite scene in the film. One long take, a ton of funny, interesting, revealing dialogue, and an excellent and witty performance from Orson Welles. It's not as innovative as the rest of the film, but it tells us everything we need to know about the character as efficiently and entertainingly as any "exposition" scene ever has.
True, aside from the fact that his only strengths were having money and self-centered arrogance. He's more like Tony Stark without the technical genius or discipline. No offense intended, but Charles Foster Kane was a generic capitalist who lost sight of what he believed in. He was the sort of useless millionaire Bruce Wayne worked hard not to be, someone who probably would've failed at even being a supervillain worth going after. Bruce Wayne had the Batcave and the Batmobile. Charles Foster Kane had an overly large mansion - and a sled. 😏 Best wishes from Vermont 🍁
He's pretty two-faced and manipulative. While he is genius, it does filter into the films theme of Kane trying to manipulate people into loving him on his own terms.
Wells admitted that he really didn't know what was possible in movie making, but believed that if the eye could see something, then the camera could as well. Wells & Toland was a match made in heaven as much as Lennon & McCartney
I think Kane's quote about the newspaper business was really Welles sharing his feelings about filmmaking. "I don't know how to run a newspaper I just try everything I can think of."
"You're right, Mr Tachar, I did lose $1M last year. I expect to lose $1M this year, and I expect to lose $1M next year!At this rate, I would have to close this place in... oh....60 years". Brilliant 👏
“You may, if you can form such a committee, put me down for a contribution of one thousand dollars.” The first time I saw this movie, I was a bit hesitant at first because of the historical weight and heritage attached to it, and I thought I’d be bored. That line made me bust out laughing and let me know I was in for a hell of a ride. Very worthy of its GOAT designation.
It’s an interesting examination of the human psyche. We each have multiple selves: ones that allow us to feel comfortable in others’ company; and ones that help us live with ourselves. The tragedy is when we can’t decide which one we really want to be.
THE ENTIRE SCENE IS ONE SHOT ! ! ! Directors & Editors today would cut this scene into 128 pieces, draw attention to the editing, and jolt the viewer out of the story.
+Z. Z. Le Mans "Directors & Editors today would cut this scene into 128 pieces" Did you not see 1917? Uncut long takes have practically become a gimmick lately.
For some reason newer movies hate using numbers when talking about money. The classic "let me show you an offer - slides paper towards them, they look at it with amaze, and the audience assumes" I kinda appreciate the math breakdown in the end.
My vote for single best scene in cinema history. It's perfect on so many levels. Staging, blocking, inflection, nuance, symbolism, detail. Literally perfect.
Every time you watch this movie you notice something new. I never noticed that halfway through this scene the background noise stops and the lights dim to focus only on the two actors. In fact everybody in the background stops.
I love how the entire tone of the room changes when Mr. Thatcher starts yelling at 1:07. All the background noise stops and the background actors turn around in their seats to watch whats happening as the argument escalates.
That's the only flaw in this scene. I hate it when background noise - especially in a crowded area - suddenly goes quiet in a movie. (Related: when a radio/TV is on and its volume suddenly goes up when something vital to the plot is being announced)
@@r5t6y7u8 It isn't arbitrary. The background noise goes quiet because everyone has stopped working. They are watching the argument because it has escalated. It increases the tension. It's great.
I saw the movie twice. The first time I was very young and didn't quite understand it. The second time I was in my late teens and understood its greatness much more clearly.
I'm a charter bus driver. Recently took a group to Mackinaw Island and across to Wisconsin in Sheboygan and the Blue Harbor Resort. This movie reminds me of that trip. It's lost in time.
@@NaughtyVampireGod more of hate and very little respect relationship between Thatcher and Kane. You are correct that Thatcher was Kane's legal guardian, but Kane still blamed Thatcher for taking him away from his mother and destroying his childhood, although in truth it was really the mother's fault in what mold Kane to become the man he ended becoming.
George Coulouris cited this scene when he described how Hollywood directors back then didn't like intensity--they'd have quieted everyone down a notches. Not Welles.
Pretty much 1 take in a long winded scene?. I've never seen it but intrigued about this film now... The camera shots are actually delightful and don't give you headache like alot of old films.
Don't know how people place Hitchcock's Vertigo in the same league as Citizen Kane. Not even close. Citizen Kane is light years ahead of Vertigo (in this reviewer's opinion). 😁
I’m glad my father introduced me to this movie when I was a kid, decades before social media and before all of the hype surrounding it was so immediately accessible. I don’t know anything about cinematic techniques or acting styles; I’ve always just enjoyed it for the story and the indirect way it unfolds in relation to the time period in which it was made, when these types of psychological, not straightforward plots were essentially unheard of
"I don't know how to run a newspaper Mr Thatcher, I just try everything I can think of."
Perfectly mirrors how Welles made this film - and it paid off.
this is true
For the Emperor
A lot of success is the result of trial-and-error. Some people don’t have the time or resources to do it long enough. And others just don’t have the will.
The way it was directed and acted by Orson Wells is still entrancing.
No, it was good for his time but it doesnt hold up anymore. Garbage movie!
@@issi529 Garbage comment.
@@LichenAndMoss Why? These are just facts. Most modern movies are way better, just live with it.
@@issi529 you idiot,tell me what movie better than citizen Kane in modern days,lotr? social network? Shawshank Redemption?pulp fiction? inglourious 😂?fight club?not even close 😂
@@issi529 your desperation is reeking
People focus so much on the stellar direction and novel cinematography of Kane that it's easy to overlook just how fantastic the acting is in this film. Absolutely flawless.
Not to mention the writing which is also amazing. Great story and great execution.🤔🧐😯😏
quite so. the sheer intensity of Orson's expression and tone of voice at 1:30 made me feel genuinely intimidated
“I don’t know how to run a newspaper, Mr. Thatcher, I just try everything I can think of.” This quote alone is why I find Kane to be such a fascinating character. He doesn’t care how he’ll be judged, he doesn’t care if he’ll make a profit off of what he’s doing; he wants to try and do something so he does it without a care as to whether or not it’ll work out. I envy that kind of boldness.
Don't be too envious, its a lot easier to be that bold when you have a mountain of money at your disposal
Not only the mountain of money alone, but the fact that as he thought it would be fun to run a newspaper, he is toying with it and the people that affects
I think he understood that it doesn’t matter what people are saying about you so long as they are saying something.
He is, after all, an American
Based on the way he spoke about filmmaking in interviews, that could also describe Orson Welles himself.
Love the overlapping dialogue
@@manhidinginasewer it makes the films feel more realistic in a way.
I don’t like it. Most of orson Welles movies have that but it doesn’t work for me. Most of the time I get confused and don’t understand what is happening.
@@Daud-ix4tm in away it's how people really talk. Especially if people are feeling very strong about a topic.
@@manhidinginasewer yeah but uncut Jems also has Adam Sandler. The worst actor in the history of acting
You can feel the influence in Aaron Sorkin's writing.
Not one cut in the scene until the very end with the great line about sixty years. Most directors would have shot close ups of both men, and put in reaction shots of the crowd while their voices rise. But this is part of the film's originality and Welles' theater background. He knew that if you stayed with the scene it would be like the viewer is in the room.
Multiple shots weren't invented at the time this film was made. The use of multiple shots certainly most engages and adds more emotional elements to films. The latter was an innovation.
@@jeffpayusan nope
Exactly
@@jeffpayusan Are you serious? This was 1941.
Please, standard Hollywood coverage was the master, mediums and close ups. Welles was using a different mise en scene. And it not only worked, it made other directors look sick.
The best and most telling line of the film is when Charles addresses mr. Bernstein and says “if I hadn’t been born rich, I might have been a great man”.
Great line!
“I did pretty well under the circumstances “ when asked by thatcher if he was a great man lol
This is probably my favorite scene in the film. One long take, a ton of funny, interesting, revealing dialogue, and an excellent and witty performance from Orson Welles. It's not as innovative as the rest of the film, but it tells us everything we need to know about the character as efficiently and entertainingly as any "exposition" scene ever has.
Am I the only one who loves hearing Orson Welles' voice?....
Nope. Me too.
The finest Bruce Wayne we never had.
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Except that Charles Kane is driven by a selfish desire to be loved. Bruce Wayne genuinely wants to help redeem people
True, aside from the fact that his only strengths were having money and self-centered arrogance. He's more like Tony Stark without the technical genius or discipline.
No offense intended, but Charles Foster Kane was a generic capitalist who lost sight of what he believed in. He was the sort of useless millionaire Bruce Wayne worked hard not to be, someone who probably would've failed at even being a supervillain worth going after.
Bruce Wayne had the Batcave and the Batmobile.
Charles Foster Kane had an overly large mansion - and a sled. 😏
Best wishes from Vermont 🍁
@@titan133760 Well, Bruce HAS to be a selfish generic wall-street capitalist, so when he's not saving the city, he behaves just like Charles.
Nerd
He's pretty two-faced and manipulative. While he is genius, it does filter into the films theme of Kane trying to manipulate people into loving him on his own terms.
So like all powerful people
That’s why people say Kane isn’t so much a satire of Hearst as he is an avatar of Welles himself.
Makes perfect sense since Kane is essentially a narcissist.
Thank you Jed Leland
Wells admitted that he really didn't know what was possible in movie making, but believed that if the eye could see something, then the camera could as well. Wells & Toland was a match made in heaven as much as Lennon & McCartney
I think Kane's quote about the newspaper business was really Welles sharing his feelings about filmmaking. "I don't know how to run a newspaper I just try everything I can think of."
“the only way you can learn anything in this business is from somebody who doesn’t know what he can’t do” - gregg toland
@@MacIntoshMann "He didn't know what he couldn't do."
@@steveparadis2978 ok smartass, i was quoting from the peter bogdanovich kane commentary, i'm sorry if it wasn't 100% what toland said.
I like how they’re arguing and Kane is helping him with his jacket.
That’s what happens in an age when men were taught to be gentlemen.
Kane’s only too happy to see Thatcher out.
Well they are father and son of sorts... a guardianship Kane resents
Fantastic
@@TheWchurchill4pm you're watching too many movies mr Churchill, go back to bed
A damn fine actor
A damn director
Freaking legend
The dynamic of this scene is extraordinary. Taught there are no cuts and little camera movement.
That final line and delivery is SOOOOOOOOO baller
My personal favorite line from the movie, that delivery is soooooo damn good
24 years old, made a masterpiece.
Orson would have been 25-26 when this came out
Notice how everyone stops what they're doing as soon as Kane says 'you're talking to 2 people'.
"You're right, Mr Tachar, I did lose $1M last year. I expect to lose $1M this year, and I expect to lose $1M next year!At this rate, I would have to close this place in... oh....60 years". Brilliant 👏
Mr. Thatcher...
"You furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war."
This is an actual quote from William Randolph Hearst.
I love the way Welles also used overlapping rat-a-tat dialogue to create drama, and also for comedic effect...
Welles is the main purpose of me watching it
“You may, if you can form such a committee, put me down for a contribution of one thousand dollars.” The first time I saw this movie, I was a bit hesitant at first because of the historical weight and heritage attached to it, and I thought I’d be bored. That line made me bust out laughing and let me know I was in for a hell of a ride. Very worthy of its GOAT designation.
It’s an interesting examination of the human psyche. We each have multiple selves: ones that allow us to feel comfortable in others’ company; and ones that help us live with ourselves. The tragedy is when we can’t decide which one we really want to be.
0:01 Orson always knew how to make an entrance on film 🙌🏻
Kinda weird to think that Orsen Welles is only 25 years old when he made Citizen Kane.
To create a film of this caliber he was SUPER young. Damn
Pretty amazing
I’m 25 myself. Damn.
THE ENTIRE SCENE IS ONE SHOT ! ! !
Directors & Editors today would cut this scene into 128 pieces,
draw attention to the editing, and jolt the viewer out of the story.
Cuts are necessary insofar as the director wants
+Z. Z. Le Mans "Directors & Editors today would cut this scene into 128 pieces"
Did you not see 1917? Uncut long takes have practically become a gimmick lately.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical How was 1917 gimmicky?
@@mgreco712 I didn't say it was.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical Yea you did
RIP Orson Welles (May 6, 1915 - October 10, 1985), aged 70
You will always be remembered as a legend.
Am I the only one who thinks Welles has the same smile and facial expression as Jack Nicholson... especially in 0:46
Damn your so right 😂😂😂 Two of the greatest actors share the same great same ❤
Man I want his voice. That is a boss voice, you could read the ingredients off of a ketchup bottle and make it sound alive and electric.
For some reason newer movies hate using numbers when talking about money. The classic "let me show you an offer - slides paper towards them, they look at it with amaze, and the audience assumes"
I kinda appreciate the math breakdown in the end.
My vote for single best scene in cinema history. It's perfect on so many levels. Staging, blocking, inflection, nuance, symbolism, detail.
Literally perfect.
Every time you watch this movie you notice something new. I never noticed that halfway through this scene the background noise stops and the lights dim to focus only on the two actors. In fact everybody in the background stops.
This man was a genius
I love how the entire tone of the room changes when Mr. Thatcher starts yelling at 1:07. All the background noise stops and the background actors turn around in their seats to watch whats happening as the argument escalates.
That's the only flaw in this scene. I hate it when background noise - especially in a crowded area - suddenly goes quiet in a movie.
(Related: when a radio/TV is on and its volume suddenly goes up when something vital to the plot is being announced)
@@r5t6y7u8 It isn't arbitrary. The background noise goes quiet because everyone has stopped working. They are watching the argument because it has escalated. It increases the tension. It's great.
Funny that so many newspapers DID close down around his estimated time frame.
1958?
@@RichV20 "60 years" would be around 2018. (2000-2013 saw 27% of newspaper firms go out of business) Since 2013 the pace has been increasing, though.
Still some of the best cinematography in all of cinema!
The typing stops when they start arguing.
I saw the movie twice. The first time I was very young and didn't quite understand it. The second time I was in my late teens and understood its greatness much more clearly.
This is the best version of my alter ego I’ve ever seen.
I'm a charter bus driver. Recently took a group to Mackinaw Island and across to Wisconsin in Sheboygan and the Blue Harbor Resort. This movie reminds me of that trip. It's lost in time.
Orson Welles was a damn good actor
Even while arguing he helps him with his coat.
At 0:46 doesn't Orson Welles look just like a young Jack Nicholson? Similar smile and eye brow move.
This arguing scene is as good as the arguing between Tom Hagen and Sonny Corleone in The Godfather (1972).
1:27 He casually offers money to have a boycott formed against himself😂
Might be in my top 5 favorite scenes in movie history.
I love how the background noise becomes completely silent at the climatic part of the scene.
he helps him put his coat on while arguing with him... people fought differently back then.
also there was much love and respect between Kane and Thatcher - as I recall, Thatcher was Kane's guardian at one time
@@NaughtyVampireGod more of hate and very little respect relationship between Thatcher and Kane. You are correct that Thatcher was Kane's legal guardian, but Kane still blamed Thatcher for taking him away from his mother and destroying his childhood, although in truth it was really the mother's fault in what mold Kane to become the man he ended becoming.
The greatest film of all time.
2:26 and the sixty years had come in a extraordinary speed
Kane finally closed down his newspaper shop in 2001 after losing too much money.
This movie is way ahead of it's time.
1 year, 1 month, 3 weeks, a few hours ago
That is today... we finally meet
That camera angle….25 y/o Orson….What a genius.
Effortlessly hilarious.
Welles was only 25 years old but actually made himself look younger by having his face pulled back
George Coulouris cited this scene when he described how Hollywood directors back then didn't like intensity--they'd have quieted everyone down a notches. Not Welles.
rosebud
Janice?
He really knew how to yank Thatcher's chain.
What were you doing ? Taking pictures of squirrels ? You're fired.
I just love this scene 🎉🎉🩷👏🏼👏🏼
No wonder why hearst wanted to destroy this film
Such a great scene..
"citizen kane" is often considered, by many, to be the greatest film ever made.
it is from this reference point that cinéma, as the art form was originally conceived, is to be analyzed.
this is what i mean when contrasting the differences between REALISM and ROMANTICISM, and how much of what is put forth on screen today isn't "film" in the historical sense.
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It's considered so mostly because of it's technical innovations over it's writing's indication.
@@DC-zi6se no,even without it its master movie.
The Godfather 1 and 2 is better
@@Views-ui2xh Sharknado beats them all!
@stevenmartinek4419
Sharknado III (tagline: Oh Hell No!) 😅😂🤣
I believe I can sat without fear of contradiction that Orson Welles never looked better than he does in this scene.
You can see how influenced directors like Cassavetes were in that camera work
Few attentive directors have not learned from Welles.
0:43 ... oh, hi there 2022
This always comes to mind when people talk about company boycotts and how they will be loosing money
Excellent Words! Kane is to the point!
11 people don't know how to run a newspaper...
damn this film is older than my grandfather
Yesterday, I learnt it was released the 1 day before my grandmother was born she was born on the 17th of May 1941 😂😂😂
60 years... Ah there's my man
This is Mr. Kane got the Company.
This is one of my favorite scenes in a movie when the typewriters stop
I really like when they showed the cane from citizen Kane
I have to work at 5 am tomorrow and miss seeing my kids because of it.
Pretty much 1 take in a long winded scene?. I've never seen it but intrigued about this film now... The camera shots are actually delightful and don't give you headache like alot of old films.
Gee, I wonder who Citizen Kane reminds me of in the year of our lord, 2024. This person even said Citizen Kane was his favorite movie.
Orson looks like Christopher Nolan.
Honestly, this guy should have played me.
Fuck.....I didn't know I needed that until now
BWAAAAHAHAA THE FRENCH CHAMPAGNE!!!
25 years old when orson did this
These guys were just a cut above the rest
I lost X Factor! Polly pocket!
Actions have consequences
that pipe’s not even almost lit
Orson Welles was awesome and handsome 😍
Don't know how people place Hitchcock's Vertigo in the same league as Citizen Kane. Not even close. Citizen Kane is light years ahead of Vertigo (in this reviewer's opinion). 😁
Hitchcock uses colours fairly well in Vertigo, but Welles can do more w/black & white
It's Frasier before Frasier lol
What a boss! 60 years ! hahaha
Who's watching this scene and think about Mank ?
How MrBeast spends money.
I'd swear Elon Musk is emulating this character; like Kane, he plays with money, economies and societies just for the hell of it.
Goddamn this movie is good
Seeing the perspectives of other entrepreneurs always sparks an inner fire in me, keep on hustling! 🚀
Is this the best movie made ever?
Yes.
@@SymphonyBrahms ok
2:23 jajajajajaja
Why is the consider one of the best movies of all time??? I don't get it 😒
It’s because it was way ahead of it’s time. And the fact that this was Orson Welles’ first movie also supports this.
I’m glad my father introduced me to this movie when I was a kid, decades before social media and before all of the hype surrounding it was so immediately accessible. I don’t know anything about cinematic techniques or acting styles; I’ve always just enjoyed it for the story and the indirect way it unfolds in relation to the time period in which it was made, when these types of psychological, not straightforward plots were essentially unheard of
Elon musk running twitter
Why I don't have a tv or computer.
I'm sorry,this movie can't compare with Sharknado.
Yeah this movie is even worse.
Or Jaws IV 'The Revenge'
Or Jaws IV 'The Revenge'