“I Don’t Think He Should Have Played” - Rich Eisen on Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa’s Head Injury
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- Rich Eisen reacts to the horrific head injury suffered by Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa in Miami’s Thursday Night Football loss to the Cincinnati Bengals and explains why he thinks Tua should not have been on the playing field in the first place.
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Whatever fan you are, doesn't matter. Hope Tua is ok, that was nasty.
agreed!
@Me Myself 100%. He's no good, controlled by the men above.
Of course, little sad this even needs to be said. It's a human being's health
It was really hard to watch.
@Me Myself The coach has no control over what the doctor says.
When he went down in the Bill's game he immediately started holding his head. Never touched his back. When he stumbled and looked confused and disoriented, that did NOT look like just a back injury. I find it VERY hard to believe he didn't suffer a head injury of some kind last Sunday.
Absolutely any person with decent vision could see his damage
@@portrait1001 I have crappy vision and saw something was off.
Same exact thing I said ! Argued with Fin Fans before Game saying He should not Play!
Sadly He's COACH! didn't see that. Even if he's there when that happen.
the league and teams think fans are dumb enough to believe their cover up attempts. I don’t know why they feel the need to lie to us instead of just coming out and saying “yeah, we fudged that situation up and have a lot to learn from this terrible situation”. How hard is that? It’s not like we’re all gonna stop watching football this weekend in protest.
I really hate that all these talking heads have been saying they were excited to see what Tua can do in primetime and hyping him up the whole week, then all of a sudden they say "he shouldn't have played, somebody should get fired over this".
Hypocrisy does not exist. Just like any previously spoken opinion. You cannot prove it. There is no video evidence of a contradictory take as such.
Exactly
Yesss! 💯 hindsight is 20/20
It's the dolphin's job to not listen to those talking heads and make sure to put the safety of their players first.
We only know what they we were told by the team, and the team said everything was fine. Then after Thursday it raised some serious questions about whether he really was fine. Let's wait for the results of the investigation, but it's not hypocritical to change your opinion in light of new information.
If you have back problems and your back is what drops you, you do not pop right back up. ESPECIALLY without ever grimacing and reaching for the pain in your back. That's a cover up if I've ever seen one
I literally have to get up a SPECIFIC way when my back hurts like that. Like no way in hell a back injury does that and you don’t show favor to your back
@@Swoosh_015 When I pulled muscles in my mid back and right shoulder I had to slide and push myself up a specific way because it hurt so much. To the point where if I were to bend my back, I'd posture with a backwards lean (for some reason it felt better like that) to try and ease the tension. Imo there's no way in hell it was a simple back issue. Even if it was, back issues connect to the spine and lower neck which sends signals to the brain stem/nervous system. What happened last night just never should've happened.
For real.
When he went down like that it looked like those who passed out from taking the Jim Jones Juice and it's boosters, just saying.
I've had severe back spasms. You're body doesn't wobble it arches stiffly , then you try to move your back around to feel comfortable and stop the pain. Folding to the ground just exasperates the pain. And when you're down, you can't really get up all that quickly.
How many parents watched that game last night and said that "My son will never play football'?
all of them. cant imagine a single person who saw it who would willing allow their children or young family members turn their brains to scrambled eggs for football
Stephen a said that today
I've seen horrific injuries in all sports.
I can't believe they let kids younger than 14 even play tackle football. I cringe everytime I see 7-8 year olds playing. Negligent parents 100%.
@@vw8886 in no other sport are people with life threatening injuries forced and pressured to go back out to play. League is finished within 10 years
“I’d never put my player in harms way”
*does exactly that*
If an independent specialist hired by the league not the team says that he's ok to play what should he have done? The issue isn't with a team or coach, it's the protocol that is set by the league
@@dalecelestin7591 the specialist still didn’t use common sense and wasn’t really independent.
I'm just glad Tua is out of the hospital. He's alive and in good enough health to walk around and that's the least I could ask for and I'm grateful.
Was he cleared to travel? He should not have been!
The cte comes later
Too be honest he can’t actually play next week. I don’t think he will or should be the time table allows him I think
Signs can show up later, days, months, years and if it does NFL is gonna pay up $$$$$
Tua is an exceptional player and a great person. I really hope he’s healthy.
You said two things. Only one is true.
@@Blahblahblehblhah both are
He's not
He does seem like a great person...
💯
That whole scenario was scary to watch unfold live. I completely agree with you Rich.
I had a concussion and my hands did the same thing for over an hour, I recognized it immediately❤ prayers for Tua.
Worst than a gruesome knee or ankle injury, you almost had the feeling he wouldn’t be able to walk ever after seeing that.
I hate to see them happen, but it's easier to accept a broken ankle as part of the game. Dak Prescott, for instance, came back from his horrible injury since modern medicine can do a great job with ankles, knees, shoulders and elbows these days.
Speak for yourself -- don't you dare use the Royal "You."
You can live with a knee injury or broken ankle, but the brain is a whole different beast
My last year playing college football, I had a severe concussion. Continued playing through the whole game. There wasn't MUCH of a concussion protocol back then, but was checked out and cleared initially. That night I was in the hospital with neck spasms, vomiting, was shot up with morphine, and woke up in a CT scanner. Like I said, I played the whole game, and didn't start to feel "off" until our way home when the game was done. I was playing for free - I had no money incentive to play. I was just playing. These guys are making MILLIONS to play this game and there are always people hunting for your job. They need real advocates to say, your health must take priority. Just playing for the 10-11 years I did as a kid through high school and eventually college, I know I am left with permanent head trauma. I suffer from insanely debilitating migraines. A lot of these guys are far worse.
hope it get better soon my man. thanks for sharing
Truly sad. There is no such thing as a minimal head injury. Repeated trauma like that leads to many symptoms.
Facts
A top Boston neurologist actually tweeted before last night’s game, calling the entire team and league for allowing him to play and then unimaginable happened
Hope he's all good, I've dealt with concussion issues my whole life, I've had 5 concussions and 3 of them I was knocked unconscious and still deal with headaches and trouble thinking everyday
Feel Your pain Bro , I have had 6 Concussions 1 was in an Coma for 7 Days and Do not remember 2 and half Weeks-in Hospital, Well Actually Remembering Last rights before falling into Coma. My 9 year old Grandson suffered one last Year in Football , No longer plays ,Is an Really Good Baseball Player and Loves Golf
I pray for you mr carter that it can get better for you
@@darylhoskins5696 are u ok now? Brain is incredible at recovering
This whole situation damn near made me cry. Tua deserves better than this. Hope he gets better soon.
My background is a trauma/neuro ICU nurse. We deal with a lot of concussions and brain injuries. Many way worse than what Tua faced. To me the response from Tua was “posturing”. Posturing is a sign of a severe brain injury. Nothing but best wishes for Tua.
I hope Tua's parents sue the NFL and the Miami Dolphins for A TON! THEY MUST ASK FOR THE RESIGNATION OF ROGER GOODELL!
I appreciate your information from your field. thank you
@@ShadowFalcon19 😅Overreaction Friday already!
@@lakeozarkrei3767 there do need to be more ramifications. Investigation, fine, review of what failed in the process and fix it.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 I mean if he retires very early and it ruins his life then yea he should sue them. I mean a former player sued the doctor that ruined his career recently and he won that case, all I know is that the dolphins staff let tua get CTE
Yeah, i didn't understand how the wobble last week was attributed to anything beyond the back of his head hitting the ground. He wobbled and shook his head, he didn't reach for his back or neck....and the first thing i thought when it went down this week was the ripple effect of the previous injury. This one was a more intense throw to the ground, but even couch coaches know by now that concussions can linger and lead to 'softer chins' to steal a boxing analogy. A la my boy Troy Aikman.
The first one, he stumbled, those weren't pain spasms. It's an embarrassment, I hope this last horrible one doesn't end up shortening his career - that posturing response was brutal.
Nah bro what you mean? I always grab for my head and shake out cobwebs when I injure my back. Of course lol
I hope the people who truly care about player safety sues Roger Goodell FOR SO MUCH THAT IT WILL FORCE THE COMMISSIONER'S RESIGNATION!
Yeah...just ignore the shaking and grabbing head in pain.
It ain’t shortening his career it’s shortening his life
He was knocked into next week, it was neuro related, even the best neurologist in the country says the same thing, he shouldn't have even been near a football field.
I hate how damn near every analyst or talk show host now states that Tua shouldn’t have played……,but they wasn’t saying that yesterday, Monday or Tuesday!!!!
Exactly
Most said he shouldn’t have played the second half of Sunday so i’m sure the opinion would be partly consistent.
Also opinions can change with new information
Brave & stunning. You should’ve said that before the game. I can’t believe they played him. You praised his toughness, talked about dolphins being 4-0. Now: Watch for McDaniel to step down and Tua to retire. Oh well.
More
Ross being forced to sell, Grier also being fired, and a loss of 2024-26 1st Round Picks and 2024-25 2nds
That’s probably what’s coming
before the game he said he wants him to play, talking heads are all hypocrites.
Watch for neither of those two things to happen and you'll forget you said it by tomorrow.
I didn't hear one pundit say anything about Tua not playing yesterday.
Head injury last week that wasn’t healed caused last nights injury to be worse.
They need to investigate these relationship between the NFL and these gambling apps. DraftKings, MGM etc.
I was worried last night before the game even started due to the head trauma 4 days prior. The posturing last night after the hit was terrifying. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Well, damn Christina you should have said something then to keep him out of the game.
Thankfully he was released from the hospital so he's at least in good enough health to be walking around. 🙌🏾
@@tracyisbest an independent review cleared tua , not the miami Dr or the nfl .
@@tracyisbest good try tho
@@tracyisbest there seems to be a lot of people in these comment sections trying to shift blame onto outside observers, be they media or simply casual observers, for not speaking out.
As if that would excuse the team or the nfl.
It’s almost like a coordinated narrative.
Go to he11
How does the HC not think he had a concussion from that Bill's game, I'm sure he saw the video of him stumbling around after that play?
Decorticate Posturing occurs in central nervous system injuries to the brain and spine.
Everyone knew he was fucked up last week. Everyone knew he was DONE once he took that hit this week
If he had a back injury, why didn't he grab at his lower back? If you hurt your leg, you grab your leg. If you hurt your wrist, you cradle your wrist. He was concussed Sunday, 100%.
Everyone at home eating potato chips with degrees from Google, sure.
@@LordCyler So if you you had a back injury that was so bad that you couldn't stand, going back in is a good idea? I don't understand this stance. Your back still contains your spinal cord. If your back is that messed up, you probably shouldn't go into a football game.
@@andrewrydholm8927 I remember being 24 yrs old and recovering from injuries within minutes and I wasn't taken care of professionally
@LordCyler cool story lady
In the uk..if a rugby player has any indication of a near injury..he is not allowed to play for at lest 10 days ..he is then assessed by a inderpendent doctor.for a go or no go…NFL should look at rugby protocols
If the NFL really wants to protect the players they should do whatever it takes to improve the helmets regardless of what the helmets look like after the improvements. In addition, if a player has a possible injury involving anything from the top of the brain to the bottom of the spine they should go through a thorough protocol and will have to take at least a week off unless there is written documentation submitted to the NFL by an independent neurologist to say they are cleared.
Actually need to improve the turf, thats whats knocking everyone out
@@joshuathompson3325 Yep they should use natural grass instead of synthetic grass.
The helmets are utterly useless. The turf is very dangerous too.
The helmets are utterly useless. The turf is very dangerous too.
The helmet can always be improved, but nothing is going to change the fact that rapid declaration is going to cause the brain to crash against the skull
My guy should’ve sat out last week. Was very surprised he came back despite the symptoms immediately following the hit.
Thanks, Rich. I was so disturbed by what I saw. However, it made me feel better to hear you present the same concerns I have in such an honest and heartfelt way. Good job! Hope Tua is OK.
"nothing more serious than a concussion" is a damning phrase
Greed and Thursday night games....you are witnessing the decline of the NFL moving forward. There are concussions every game. You need a week to rest. The players association should have Tua checked by an independent specialist and they should be able to tell if there was two separate issues. Ya know the NFL is going to try and hide it if it's the case.
Decline of the NFL.... You're funny dude....😅
@@lakeozarkrei3767 In a sensible world, last night would be the beginning of the end. The sad reality is that you're right.
Get rid of Thursday Night Football
NFL = modern version of Roman Gladiatorial contests. Feed the blood lust of the audience.
Prayers for Tua.
I said it last week wen I seen the back of his head smack off the turf in Miami he shouldn't have come back!!! And could McDaniels have stumbled any more thru that statement. An independent arbitrator should be looking into this
It doesn't matter what the "protocol" said re: Tua's original injury. He suffered a concussion.
I am a physician with experience dealing with patients with head injuries. When I saw how Tua's head hit the ground and his subsequent inability to walk steadily the first words out of my mouth were "significant concussion. He's done for today and likely some future games." It doesn't matter if he can count backward from 100 by 7's, knows what day of the week it is, where he is, the score of the game. It doesn't matter if his eyes react normally to light and he can focus. It doesn't matter if he tells you he is OK. You witnessed a man sustaining a blow to the head, grab his head, wobble "punch drunk" and stumble to the ground immediately thereafter. That means CONCUSSION!!
I'm not sure who the physician was who "cleared" him to get back play but they have to be facing some very uncomfortable questions about their decision to allow him to continue playing.
The most significant sign was the posturing immediately after the hit. Just for argument's sake; even if he hadn't wobbled or shook his head then fell down, even if he bounced up and finished the game somehow, he met the hard criteria for severe brain(stem) trauma.
Sadly this may have needed to happen for everyone to take this more seriously and educate everyoneon how serious and hiddenhead trauma is. I'm assuming "slam" tackles like he took last night are going to be illegal next season as a reaction to this.
Those slam tackles are some of the most physically devastating.
GET RID OF THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. Instances of injury to players is higher and the games are almost always bad (both due to teams only having 3 days of rest). Literally all it does is reduce the net enjoyment of the spectator and risk players health. Greed is all it is. Its not good for any of us except for NFL and network execs
Yes this. Get rid of it.
Very informative Doc. Thank you
The fingers tightening up is the brain sending electrical signals to the fingers over and over and over like a CD skipping
Interestingly, a lot of sport show talking heads after the Bills game mentioned that Tua was concussed, not a back injury. I sense a Miami cover up.
NFL is like my old army platoon Sergeant, do as I say not as I do.
It’s the long term effect that will get him! I have lived with mine for a while now after a neck surgery replacement for a couple of cervical disc and 6 screws, from time to time my fingers still get triggered to freeze like
that of Tua’s, I thank god I got away with it after the military retires me! Prayers for Tua🙏
I have to wonder if Tua was afraid to speak up after Sunday's game. He may have thought he would be labeled as injury proned due to past injuries.
McDaniel sounds ridiculous. Did anyone ever claim that the injury last week would cause Tua to fall in the same way Thursday? He answered a question that nobody is asking. The question is, did he have a head injury last week that opened him up to a more serious injury so soon after Sunday if he did take another hit to the head?
His statement was utterly absurd and purposely worded to avoid answering the questions at hand. As a 40 year Dolphins fan, McDaniels need to go. Players should not want to play for him after his decision making.
Agree with Rich. After that wobble walk off last week we all knew that was not because of a low back issue. To tell us that is an insult to everyone who was watching intelligence.
dolphins organization super weird
But it was the back … unless the NFL appointed Neurologist lied.
@@rdbnow lied, misdiagnosed or otherwise. It's not as rare as you think in pro sports - even when the docs are allegedly independent. Especially in the NFL
You dont know that. I have friend with back problems that have done the exact same thing. Lets not act like you are a doctor. Its football its known that concussions happen.
And you know this through your years as an expert in spinal injuries?
Common sense! Non-MDs could tell Tua should not have re-entered that game. And he shouldn't have started Thursday night. This is a BRAIN we're talking about, not a knee or arm.
Why do you ommit the part where the doctors said last week that it wasn't his brain but his back? I agree that if his back was that hurt he should have sat out this game but if Tua and the doctors say it wasn't his brain, we have to believe them. You make it seem as if both the Dolphin and the NFL medical staff put him back in knowing he had a brain injury.
Look at it as two separate events.
Sunday: for better or worst it was reported as a lower back and ankle injury
Thursday night event: QB (slammed, rag-dolled, pile-driven) to a "cement" turf in a plastic hat. (when you watch the hit to the turf at regular speed, you can feel the impact [slow-mo takes the severity away]). I would say if he was 100% healthy before this event, he would not be after...
Like a car crash bro 😢
The way the NFL protects its players is by making them play 4 days after playing.
Why is Thursday Night Football not shifted to Saturday? You'd get 3 straight days of NFL. Nobody likes Thursdays.
@@UNDERTAKERULEZ102 college competition
They need to kill TNF and go back to 16 games
The structure itself is not an issue, if health was always an issue then they should move the game to friday. The troublesome matter is the fact he played when he shouldn’t have.
Maybe health checks before the solo prime time game would help.
He never should have returned to the field last week. But saying he shouldn't played this week is just high-mindedness. You have nothing to back up that claim. The effects are invisible so we just might as well call off contact sports which I know you don't support.
The fingers is basically a seizure. Perhaps not a medical diagnosis but its the same electrical misfire. I had a gran Mal seizure and I'll never forget the way my fingers and arms locked up like that.
that kind of impact can change your entire disposition, nuts
First thing I said when watching him come back into the Bills game was "they better hope he doesn't get hurt even worse by putting him back in"
Was the sack clean tho? Why do you have to slam him?
LOL stop. Just ask for 2 hand touch already or flag football league.
@@JetfuelJoe I knew that would be the response… but I can also turn it around too… but you’re right bro not my problem.
@@willm3027 he wasn't even slammed down that hard his head just hit the same exact spot as last Sunday which he should have never came back into that game.
Should never been allowed to play after such a short time after the Sunday game. Terrible for Tua, and I pray he gets checked out thoroughly before he attempts to play again. Speedy recovery Tua
Maybe that's the NFL's fault for greedily scheduling these stupid short turnaround games? Players have been complaining about them for years.
@@nr92cp6 its not really. The players if not healthy can choose to not play. I do understand the concerns though.
@@mbdg6810 Literally no player ever at this level will ever elect to do that though. The point is about protecting players from themselves at a certain point.
It is crazy how long it can take for it to take. I got in a car accident not even going that fast but hit my head off the steering wheel and felt fine after more adrenaline than anything but the next two days felt hungover groggy headaches luckily only two days I couldn't imagine how long this will effect tua hope he is alright in the long haul especially only being 24 so young still
No way Tua should have played the after the hit with the Bills. The Dr. And anyone else involved in the decision for him to play is responsible for his health now.
The way his hands got stuck wasn't normal even for a concussion. I wouldn't let him play anymore
I'm no expert but, as someone who had a severe concussion, all I can say is you may think you're ok. I said that. Thankfully I had people around me that realized something wasn't right and took me to a doctor.
My hands did the very same thing when I injured my spine...6 years confined to a wheelchair. Good luck to Tau, but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD HE PLAY AGAIN! Walking around without aid is too important to dismiss.
The problem i have with the whole back thing is . When you hurt your back your hands go to that area . Tua was shaking his head and adjusting his helmet and holding his head not his back so that's why i had a problem with the dolphins organization saying it was a back issue. A player stumbling and confused should not have been allowed to go back in the game after halftime we all where surprised when Tua came back into the game. Ravens fan here saying hope Tua has a full and speedy recovery 🙏
I feel like everyone has a serious case of hindsight here. Were there any calls for him not to play BEFORE the game/injury?
That’s the problem. The right people didn’t stop him from playing.
I was calling for him to not play..but nobody would listen to me. 😆
There were plenty of people saying it. Look up Chris Nowinski
When Patrick Mahomes had a similar stumble during a game and passed all concussion protocol. The Chiefs still held Mahomes out the next game out of precaution. The doctors said he was ok, but the team looking out for the player's best interest sat him out anyway.
And Todd Henne sealed it for the Chiefs!
Good for them
Facts are…. If he’s cleared he’s cleared
Tua will comeback stronger than ever ‼️💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🏆🏆🏆🏆
Maybe next year.
if you want to know more about concussions, former racecar driver Dale Earnhardt Jr, who concussed several times, is very open about what it is like, the dangers, and the long recovery. It is a serious thing.
I honestly don't think McDaniels would have put Tua in had he known it was a head injury. What I think happened here is the Dolphins doctors told him that he was clear and Tua being none the wiser due to head trauma against the Bills thought he was okay to play and he very much was not. An independent neurologist should have been the one to clear Tua and not the Dolphins staff. That being said, as the HC, McDaniels should have went through further protocols regardless of what Dolphins dr's said. I get that McDaniels is glad that it's a concussion and not worse like several spinal damage leading to permenant paralysis, but still a concussion is a concussion regardless and it's still trauma to one of the most sensitive and vitals organs in our bodies.
There was another Dr during the bills game not part of dolphins medical staff that also cleared him. But you're right about the coach, he NEVER wouldve played him if all parties agreed there was a head injury. They opened an investigation, my opinion, the NFL should've postponed this game til that investigation was cleared.
Here is the problem, "Just a concussion" is said and shrugged off. Concussions are just as serious or more serious than a fracture. Brains are not as understood as bones.
I think he meant to say that just a concussion as opposed to being paralyzed from the neck down. It's like saying, just a finger when compared to losing your entire arm.
Yeah as usual media takes the coaches comments entirely out of context. Players can be paralyzed from hits like that (Ryan Shazier). McDaniel said he was happy because there are worse things than even severe concussions. Would you rather break your neck and be in a wheelchair or get a concussion?
@@FD-nz7qv I got that but it is still a big deal and we don't treat it that way.
What I witnessed last night broke my heart!!💔 I pray for tua tongaviloa speedy recovery!! Stay out as long as you need!! God bless you uso my samoan brother from ewa beach!! 🙏🥲❤️💯
Get better soon Tua!
freaking crazy.... I hope some Medical Board somewhere is about to revoke some neurologist's license for that
Yes. Who is the person/people who officially "cleared" Tua to play both Sunday and Thursday? I can't find their name/names. I suspect their state medical board or at least their medical speciality board will have a few questions for them.
I’m concerned for the health and safety. At the same time, I’m curious if this weeks injury (definite head injury) will be aligned with last weeks injury which could have been either back or head/neck. Nothing good comes or this. It’ll be a witch hunt and I don’t know if it merits that. I don’t pretend to know the answer. I just know this is a legitimate issue that I’m hoping the truth is actually addressed. Sending good energies to Tua.
I totally agree with you Rich. Thank you for being honest!!
Pretty much anyone at home was thinking that hit during the bills game led to a concussion. Unreal that he played for the bengals game. Crazy it wasn’t a penalty for that suplex as well
The Bengals knew they wanted Tuas head to hit the turf. They'll never admit it. Because if he would of played the whole game they would of lost.
Prayers for Tua.. but he really needs to study Russell Wilson, Brady, etc. and learn how to fall; live to play another down. If u watch the sequence, he not only goes back into the collapsing pocket, but he is also still trying to throw as he is being whipped the ground. Just throw it away or take the sack and he'd be fine.
All of the QB’s you named were out for a season at some point in their career. There isn’t really any way to avoid it. All of the top QB’s have experienced serious injuries, either serious shoulder/leg injuries or concussions.
@@tasheemhargrove9650 what?? Russell has never missed a season and Brady has only missed one in 20+ years.
"Tua shouldn't have played " everyone wouldn't be saying this if he didn't get hurt last night. smh everyone wants to be Captain Hindsight....
People were already saying that. I saw hundreds of tweets and comments about it
Wrong. People were saying it last Sunday not to mention the ongoing investigation.
@@Hunee- yeah “investigation” lol… the nfl investigating itself basically is PR bs to assure ppl something will be done but it’s just to minimize the backlash that’s all. There isn’t and never was an “independent” neurologist either, that was all a bs PR move to make ppl think they addressed it, of course they didn’t, they’d lose a ton of money if they were truthful about all injuries each practice and game
Saying that Tua only had a back injury last Sunday is an insult to my intelligence.
How do you hold a player that is medically cleared to play? What do you say to them? When do you say they can come back? Non-medial staff should not be put in that position.
When he was hit, his neck was whip lashed. If you look before his head hit the ground, His fingers had already curled up. I believe he had a neck injury and head injury and was a combination of whiplash and a head injury. Ultimately a spinal injury.
This is all in hindsight it’s football this happens. I’m a dolphins fan and this made me sick but saying he shouldn’t have played is just wrong when all the media hyped it up. It’s hypocrisy at its finest.
Yes, it's hypocrisy for the NFL, the NFLPA, game broadcasters and major media outlets to express concern and indignation over what happened to Tua. That does not mean that it should go unchallenged. If anything, MORE people should be raising their voices about this hypocrisy.
Mikey boy. You can't say "if there is any inclination that he has a concussion would I play him" when you literally played him. Even if it wasn't said by a doctor that he did, everyone in America saw that Bills game....there was a slight inclination.
Yeah man Prayers go out to him
That was very scary. I could really feel fear when I watched that. I think no doubt he's done for the year and very possibly forever. The is a very capable quarterback in Pittsburgh that the Dolphins may want to grab.
Why? Bridgewater is better than anything Pittsburgh has.
Squealers don't have any QBs. Tf you talking about?
Pitt QB? Huh…. Kenny Picket is their future, not trading….. the rest of them aren’t good.
@@mytwosense9135 Looks like the Dolphins definitely dont have any now. They might be callin up Bob Griese and Dan Marino.
Skylar Thompson
That's not 20/20 hindsight. Everyone knew he shouldn't have been playing, except Tua, Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins medical staff, and the alleged independent neurologist who was supposed to be impartial.
So.... Everyone except those that are actually familiar with the person, have access to him, his medical history and situation? Sure. That sounds like a load.
@@LordCyler they all certainly arent leaving.
The coach least responsible imho.
Lets find out what happens.
Things will change 4sure. Quickly.
@@LordCyler So no one in professional sports is capable of lying or breaking the rules, particularly a team that was just investigated and penalized for lying and breaking the rules? Sure. That sounds like a load.
@@jamesgoss1860 Its not impossible, I merely find it more likely that all the people in these comments sitting at home playing doctor are wrong
Thursday Night Football to the NFL is like Alcoholics Anonymous holding meetings at a bar.
Sunday, and last night, after seeing it in slow motion my first thought was actually whip lash, last night was even worse. Not a doctor, but have been in a pretty rough car accident, and damage in you neck in the spine really messes with your fine motor skills like dexterity. Not saying I had anything like that, but there were times when my fingers were out for themselves, and I struggled with anything that took fine control, like putting little screws in tight spots, for a bit. He took two big hits where his head snapped back hard, and you start pulling the strings in your spinal chord, it dose all kind of things, including turning you off.
4:10 "he was carted off. didn't give a thumbs up. what was that about?" he was unconscious rich
He probably will never play again. Not just From a medical standpoint, but no legal entity involved with the NFL will let this happen.
Dude will be back in a week or two
The only plausible explanation is that the team doc and independent neurologist didn't see any footage of the actual hit and his punch-drunk aftermath. So he may not have shown symptoms but that video replay should have been a big piece of the diagnosis.
The Sunday game was not last week. These incidents happened 5 days apart. They are downplaying everything even now. Watch him play the next game again with 10 days rest.
~ Thursday Night Football is a DEPLORABLE idea. Also what does "Questionable" and "Probable" really mean . . . ~
This is literally the first time I heard Miami's coach speak....came off pretty bad. Just in terms of intonation and choice of wording, etc.
Independent specialist that specializes in the specialty of brain matter!
I agree, he did not sound as expected from all the good things I’ve heard about him
He goes while I'm here nobody is playing if there's any inclination of a concussion yet tua grabs his head immediately not his ankle or back and falls to the ground dude is pretty shady if you ask me
I'm wondering if we're going in the direction of having 2 independent specialists needed to clear someone to play.
Yeah it is 2020 hindsight. Unless you said Sunday he shouldn’t have played yesterday. And then it really doesn’t matter. 🤷🏽♂️
Everybody is saying he shouldn’t have played because of what happened Thursday. The definition of hindsight.
He said thank god it wasn't worse then it is. He didn't say thank god its just a concussion. Those two statements mean very different things. Its been pretty clear from day 1 McDaniels cares about Tua probably more then any other coach Tua has ever had. Prayers Up for Tua.
That’s nice. Maybe it’s true. But if he loves tua that much, I would hate to know how he treats the ones he doesn’t care about.
You don’t do concussion protocol cuz your back flared up. He cracked his head in that Bills game.
@@rexfordmorgan7552 He's also not responsible for the concussion protocol, the NFL is and the doctors performing it. He's a coach. He has 0 medical education. The Doctor and Tua are the only people that can talk him in or out of letting Tua play. McDaniels said today that last night when they boarded the plane Tua came and sat next to McDaniel and Tua was saying he was affraid of missing games and McDaniels was the one to tell Tua that his recovery is what's important right now. Tua obviously is very passionate about playing and it leads to these unfortunate events sometimes.
@@huffstudios4328 sure. The head coach in the nfl has no control over who plays or not and just does whatever his medical team says….
Serious question, how old are you?
@@rexfordmorgan7552 That's not my point. If the doctors clear him, Tua tells him he's fine, and there's no inclination from him to believe anything is wrong with Tua from interactions, behaviors, etc. then why wouldn't he play him? It's easy to say he shouldn't have played him in hindsight. The NFL's investigation is to cover themselves. It's the NFL's protocol and potentially a noncompetent Neurological Doctor contracted BY the NFL (not affiliated with the team) that's led to this outcome.
They fired Flores, because he wouldn't lie for them. They have zero credibility. Until proven otherwise, whatever comes out of the mouths of fins management is lies. I'm angry, because I've had at least 4 concussion that have altered my life forever. Forever! I hate that organic, but wish a speedy recovery for Tua. Plane ride where the cabin pressure is contraindicated for a concussion. Then we here in Florida stoll have a low barometer from the hurricane. Low barometer mimics high altitude pressure. I had awful migraines Wednesday and Thursday. Thankfully my migraine meds helped some. This sickens me for the health of this young man going forward in his life. This is bigger than football. 😑
SO IF TUA WAS SO OBVIOUSLY HURT WHY DIDNT THE NFL CALL IN AND SAY THAT TUA COULD NOT PLAY IN THE GAME
💰 and ratings, why else?
well said
Mike McDaniel needs to read Dale Earnhardt's book: Racing to the Finish, My Story. When he said luckily "it's just a concussion" he showed he knows nothing about concussions.
When dealing with possibly being paralyzed from the neck down, yeah a concussion isn't that big of a deal.
"Thank goodness it's just a concussion." You mean thank goodness his brain is only battered, not broken? Okay, Mike!
Absolutely no to using those caps in games. This would not have happened if the Dolpins protected Tua. This happened because he sustained the EXACT same injury in the EXACT same spot that he did last week. If he had the time to properly heal, this would not have been as bad.
anyone else notice the irony that the sponsor for that Dolphins media session was the university of Miami health center?