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bro dropped a movie on the clip channel
This is just a pretty Long Clip dw
ThePrimetime type clip
yeah sure a 1h clip. of course
tiny short clip
i was wearing shorts
LMAOO
HE WAS WEARING SHORTS
mhmmm shorts, right…….
what a shame
If those were shorts, then im 5 foot 4 like Kevin Hart and you're 7 foot as big as shaq
PLEASE DO NOT INFLICT DAN BRAINROT ONTO STANDARD PLAYERS ITS ALREADY OUT OF HAND
pls explain i am not watching 1hr clip
@@ericalc1 TLDW; they are explaining dans to BTMC, and BTMC wants dans for Osu!std.
true
why is it rot? me stupid standard player
@@akasakasvault7597 People tend to obsess over them which can cause demotivation and mindblock, plus grinding a specific mapset to gain skill doesn't go that well for a lot of people.
STD PLAYERS ARE GETTING DAN ADDICTEDS NOOOOOOOO
PLS DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN
its joever for the entire osu community now...
I like gamma maps
@@evelynosu-uwu1865 break sucks
but dans are fun D:
@@sean12444 the concept? Yeah
The grind? Not so much
The h in btmc stands for 1h long clip
mc stands for mega clip
as a mania, this is gonna be interesting to watch. also those are some big names in the mania community getting involved, damn
fun fact, 10k has 3 different dan courses now! the 10k bms dans (which are just converted straight to mania), the 10k mania dans (which are pretty old) and the 10kct dans which have been recently made by a 10k community member
I haven't watched the video, so I'm just going to say my own thoughts here on dans - maybe someone else explains the things I am going to say already but I'll go on anyway.
- Dans are a very rough estimation of skill, it kind of gives you a general idea of how good someone is but 99/100 of the time it doesn't do it too well. Each map in the dan (at least the main ones that everyone plays, the DDMythical ones) represents one skillset, but each one of those skillsets has its own branch. For example, the first map in the course is Jack. But jack has a lot of different types of its own patterning. In delta dan, the jack map is Aquaris 1.3x rate, which is primarily speedjack without a lot of stamina required. It has free-acc for around half of the map until it suddenly diffspikes, the actual hard part happening. It becomes an issue when there's only one type of patterning that represents the whole pattern (I don't know if that makes sense, but we ball.) Someone could get a 96 on Aquaris 1.3x rate and then they could say they're around delta jack but they might be incredibly biased on speedjack, and their other jack skillsets like chordjack, anchor, density etc etc could be very weak. The same in gamma dan, where the jack map is Break 1.1x, primarily chordjack stamina focused. Someone could say they are around gamma jack but they might be incredibly weak in other types of jack like I listed before. This applies to essentially every other skillset in the dan course, this is the main issue with dans, they only cover one skillset per skillset, when each skillset has their own branch of skillsets. (I am saying skillsets a lot I just realized)
Dans are not the end-all-be-all of determining someone's skill.
(i am feeling really rambly today oopsies)
i 99% chordjack map then hp fail tech map
@@IlllIllllllIlIII my goat
zzzzzz Can you please point out that you're a chordjack main before making an opinion zzzzzzz
@@vStrafe what do you think the message of my original comment was inferring...
@@vStrafechordjacks are fun
SILICOSIS WHAT DID YOU DO WHAT DID YOU DO SILICOSIS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE STANDARD PLAYERS PLEASE DONT PLAY ANY FUCKING DANS NO IT WILL TURN OUT BAD DONT
BRO... YOU SURE...?
saragi singularity V inc
wouldn’t take too long for someone to get obsessed on std
@@janusaj1337W
zeta.
"future of osu" and dans have existed for like 6 years
more like 10. theyve been around since like 2013-2014
havent like dans existed on BMS too, even before o!m?
ain't no way standard players are going to get addicted to dans too
rip btmc he got consumed into dans.
BTMC POSTS THIS WHILE I AM LITEARLLY ON MY BEST PP FARM SESSION EVER
HEY GUYS MY PROFILE PICTURE IS A DAN COURSE I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
(i made this doc!)
Pog
(Btw where can I see those difficulty comparison photos of dans (if you're willing to share them ofc))
et (also this document is cool asf good job)
me too gang
@@d1amond676 yo let's goo
trumpet
we got dan brainrot in osu standard before gta 6
Keep dan away from me
My name is dan and I'm coming for you 🫵
I love his reaction to myuka clearing ε
Instead of "woah, good job clearing!!"
He went "those are some short shorts..."
53:30 I fell off... But that's what university and education does to someone's time :(
Dans are an invasive species now?
One of the doc creators (Proof: 44:38) here willing to answer a few questions that you guys may have over here just comment below and i'll sort it out once I have the time later!
hi there, why is everyone saying "keep dans away from standard" in the comments? from what I have seen in the video there is nothing wrong with it
@@catagamas Some people have basically been using the dans as the ONLY way to improve/play causing some people to absolutely despise the system due to that mindset as it locks them in. Some people already comment about some aspects of how dans work as a whole (Some people have issues with how you have to play maps back to back when others argue that they shouldn't) so some would rather not utilize it. Their opinions are valid as dans shouldn't be used as the all in one solution to improvement as there is no one size fits all for people however, it simply aims to be a great way to set goals/improvement/gauge. Not to mention there is already community discourse with some of the difficulties (this can mainly be seen in dan reform and older course but the celestial dan project is under work atm fixing those issues through even more feedback) but eventually this issue will occur a couple years down the line as players improve and have even more varied different popular charts and playstyles. It also is a point of toxicity since they only see a person through there dan clear so id say the issue is basically very subjective but widespread
Could you link the doc? Btmc has awful reading comprehension and i do not want to watch the video
@@catagamasthe dans do their job objectively its just that some of the community obsess over them and define people over them so id say its mainly the community ruining it although aside from that the only dispute is the balancing which can be fixed by a newer dan system since dan reform is old
@@izmonster8459 docs.google.com/document/d/1Yx7PJ7gcU57frCc9MggqgIrT8Yw0k-t2uJUlXyxKQyA/edit?usp=drivesdk
PLS DONT BRING DANS TO STD😭
I agree that some people may overfixate on dans a little too much, and I think there's defiently a fine line between someones skill level and their dan level. But I actually really like the concept of dans, I think they are a really cool concept and put a extra challenge for players to strive towards.
future epsilon in the making
Also btw there’s already a dan course for standard which is mostly played by osu!droid players. Pretty fun pack actually.
To the people frothing at the mouth over 4k receiving less pp than 7k and being more competitive, please note that 4k's skill progression past Delta remained stagnant for the vast majority of the game's lifespan.
The community went from essentially 2 Epsilon clears to over 20 in the span of the last 3 years, highlighting the relative immaturity and lack of development the keymode had, at least compared to 7k, with the vast majority of the top 100 players having their collective skill facilitated by the vast corpus of converted VSRG beatmaps dating back to 2001.
Epsilon has remained barely clearable until the recent popularization of rapid trigger boards, which extended the ability of top players to allow for many more clears.
The skill ceiling in 4k is simply just not that high, not for conventional gameplay devoid of pattern manipulation at least.
ITS SO FUCKING OVER
ctb stands for catch the btmc
i no longer even play standard so i don't really care whether dans come to std or not
what I sure as hell know is that i now belong to the apparent minority of 4k players that endorse dans (i've never played one bc i forgot they existed from when I used to play etterna, i'm sure as hell gonna try them soon)
43:43
Fun osu!mania fact! 😃: Some 7k World Cups were cancelled due to lack of teams (and players)
oh and butanic's a BMS god. There are diffs named after him lmao
Not even diffs but the whole bms song "merry Christmas mr.butanic"
Edit: Nevermind its a weird difficulty naming for a song
Epsilon Clearers must rise up
no dans no no no no dans
NO AS A MANIQ PLAYER IT IS NOOOOTTTT THE FUTURE. Heed my warning
Can you explain more, I’m just curious
It’s a meme but basically mania players obsess over Dan passes to determine your skill level
@@themedallist okay so it’s a arbitrary thing
@@themedallist isnt that the point though? isnt it supposed to be a better way to determine player skill than the pp system which people already obsess over?
@@khyan9397 yeah I personally have no problem with it I just think it’s funny how people are acting like it’s the downfall
as a mania player myself, even though im not as good (average)
keep dans in mania, trust, because not even dressurf, kura, bojii, yz, etc can manage to popoff on the most insane dans. you standard players won't like the amount of endurance and speed you guys would need for those maps even though some of you top players do have that kind of ability.
dan dan kikoeru! kino sei tan-tan tan-tan-tan
1 hour video about Dan and still don’t know who Dan is 😔
KEEP MANIA DANS IN MANIA 😭 😭 😭 😭
Nah we need the btmc intro 1st clear
Osu std dans 👅👅👅👅
i think standard can implement "how to be [insert player name here]" for example how to be akolibed would be like 8 of his most impressive fc put together and you try to fc it (sidetracked days 1.5x good fucking luck) or something you got the idea
Ed we of the LS Mania community would absolutely love to speak to you and share our years worth of experience with mania
i feel like people who are into osu mania dans are slightly insane like probably something wrong in their head. I like course mode and dans in other games like iidx, bms, etc, but i only play them a few times and don't grind out each song like i have no life.
dan dan kikoeru
tried to make acc dan years ago for osumania (basically the score requirement to clear is 990k and mania max score is always 1 million so you have to have good acc and ratio on the map) but i got demotivated quite early
990 isnt high acc thats just general skill like getting a 99%. there already WAS an accuracy dan in 2014 that required getting high ratios like 997s and 998s. final level had you getting a 1m score on the first difficulty of aiae
THIS IS HYPE
What a great and short clip!
ed is finally noticing mania😍
43:49 koyuki spotted
Mania mentioned!!!
Alright so like.
As a 6digit, do i buy into this dan shi7?
Or just keep retry spamming tech maps
7k and 4k r completely different gamemodes, its like putting standard and taiko into the same leaderboard 😭 7k will always be dominant over 4k simply because it has more keys to play on. (which = more pp)
7k is also harder and features actual difficult patterning, and doesn't devolve into an abhorrent pattern manipulation chordjack-centered fiasco past Delta
@@ToasterSpork-fk7mj live the manip free life 👅
They should add iidx
cant wait for mrekk zeta 97 pass
No one is explaining the brainrot, the gatekeep is toxic, damn.
It's joever
tldr of this video:
play ska
truest statement ever
Based
time to get some popcorn for this 1 hour highlight lets go!
Ed has been really diving into the mania community recently, and I gotta say as a mania player I'm a fan of that. It's nice seeing our irrelevant game mode get some attention every now and then.
daniel addiction
I love to see BTMC talk about mania
Mania is officially winning
BRO DON'T DO IT 😭😭😭😭😭
DDmythical is the one who created the dans and after a while he just quit. So someone got permission from DDmythical to reopen them. And that’s where the reform comes from. The extra delta is the Dan and ima list the normal ones
Dans 1-10
EXTRA-ALPHA
EXTRA-BETA
EXTRA-GAMMA
EXTRA-DELTA
EXTRA-EPSILON
EXTRA-ZETA SAMPLE
and the hardest one rn (I think it is)
Theta Dan or eta Dan
That’s basiclly most of my knowledge about them cuz I’m an osu mania player 😅😅
Oh no.
:uncanny:
BTMC for Lettuce Squad
Mania player here!(Rank 6200, 10th LN Dan, 8th Reform Dan, playtester of Transcendence's Celestial Dan) I might be able to help with questions related to dans! (probably?
we are about to witness a new era
the m in btmc stands for mania
we got dan lore before gta 6
the days has come🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
also Dans in a droid that is already several years old
bro these arent clips anymore theyre straight up vods
Dan system sounds fun but the way the mania players organized the different difficulties seems completely over the top and unnecessarily complicated
the difficulty names can really just be simplified to 1-15 for most cases think of it kinda like how arcaea does past present future eternal beyond when it could just be easy medium hard expert master
nah, is just 1th to 10th, alpha to zeta rn, and ln its just 1th to 15th,
@@Kettye-zv9yg1th
@@Kettye-zv9yg1th?
1th @@Kettye-zv9yg
holy shit we have std dans before gta6
i would love to have a dan system as a way to aim for a target
It’s so over for the standard community if dans are introduced 😭😭😭
I've being saying that for like 4 years at this point but yeah, dans are a cool thing to have
45:03 ~(_8^(|) pekeño demonio
this is the best video i've ever seen
ME WHO HAVING DAN ADDICTIONS RN DONT DO DANS PLAY WHATEVER YOU LIKE INSTEAD
bros like "oh no, dan brainrot!!! ;("
while PP brainrot exists and its 10x worse
"DAN brainrot" much better that PP brainrot
change my mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why does the google doc url not work I need this😭😭
good video broski also thanks silicosis (ET) for making
A Mo would be proud hearing this
holy crap if someone makes standard dans it's over
It's been a thing already in mania for years.
As a mania play I learned a lot ngl
Brain decay
NOT THE DAN PTSD PLEASE NOOOOOOOOO
Hey Ed, we of the Lettuce Squad community would love to explain more about mania if you are interested
NO NO NO NO!!!
This videos its for BTMC Vods, not BTMC clips 💀💀
ROUNDTABLE MANIA WHEN?!?!?
NO WAY OSU MANIA TERMS
on hour long clip??? doesnt really sound like a clip for me
We need more stamina in osu
real
@@janusaj1337 real
@@FullCitrisExtra hevur tu prøva hasi long stream practice maps? Eg bruki tad nu til warmup til mania kekw
@@janusaj1337 lmao eg havi faktist
welp, time to rejoin the dan server..
"community is overfixated on dans, therefore dans bad"
and yet the pp system still exists
lol
The issue is that pp is built into osu!
Creating a new thing to obsess over is unecessary and stupid.
Use that brain of yours.
@@ultrab2777 even if you think it's "unnecessary", there is no world where having an alternative way of gauging a player's skill would be bad. It's just an alternative. Use your brain
DAN WE NEED DANS
The dans are here
wow truly a clip
Screw all these comments, std dans would be more fun than pp farming.
dude discovered dans like 7 years late
wait until btmc finds out about zeta and eta dan