A small correction: Frolo is not a religious leader. He is a civil magistrate. Conversely, the one religious leader in the film actively opposes his evils plans.
Yeah I mean it’s well-documented that the reason Frollo and the archdeacon are separate characters for the film (as opposed to frollo being the archdeacon, as in the source material) was because they were trying to dodge as much heat as possible from the Catholic Church.
@@hellishcatt I’m not saying that because people think it is incredible it must mean that it is. The music is incredible, because it’s completely different to what Disney would do normally.
No sins off for when Esmeralda sings “God Help the Outcasts,” not even for the AMAZING rendition of the inside of Notre Dame? They got down everything. It’s so beautiful almost like you’re actually there yourself. Ugh just thinking about the sheer amount of work and time the artists had to do
Two things. One. You kind of have to be a Christian, or at the very least you need to have more than a passing knowledge of the New Testament to understand what this song is getting at. All of the really important religious people used to hate Jesus when he was still preaching, and they were wrong about that. Maybe they are wrong about Esmeralda and her people as well. Two. I think this song was based off of a real prayer that some Catholics pray today. I’m not sure, because I wasn’t raised Catholic. But I think some people do pray the prayer “God help the outcasts.“ I wouldn’t go quoting myself on that, though. They should try it at least once, if they haven’t done it already.
@@davidtaylor142 The Musical is good, not so hot on the movie and it’s music. I prefer the book to both. I genuinely recommend it to anyone half interested in Phantom of the Opera.
He doesn’t like a lot of the Disney stuff but it’s weird to see remove points for goddamn Hercules despite it being very inferior to this movie especially when it comes to the soundtrack. Even if was “Yeah I know you people love this movie but I don’t think it works yada yada yada so here’s a sin” I would’ve been fine since it’s self aware asshole logic. Saying the music sucks like it’s fact is complete biased dogshit
When my mom said she didn't like Tom Hulce's singing voice in this movie I nearly disowned her on the spot. There's no accounting for some people's bad taste XD
"The music in this movie sucks" Me: *immediately stops watching, goes to comment section, sees everyone else freaking out, types comment, closes video*
"He only kept the baby because he thought he might be useful." Ummmm no he kept it because he was afraid of the judgment of god. Hence "the eyes of notre dame" and the panic on his face at that insinuation. I try not to be too nitpicky with stuff, but blatantly missing heavily telegraphed character ques will get under my skin.
He always does, it's part of his shtick...but to claim to be such a smartass his points should actually be smart. He sounds like he read the description on wikipedia and wrote snappy critiques, like to be so smart he sounds dumbbb
Not only that, but he also made it a sin that Frollo kept Quasi in the bell tower at seemingly no benfit to him, but it's not about that. Frollo is keeping Quasi out of some attempt at redemption, but he would be disgusted if anyone discovered that he existed, and worse, that Frollo was associated with him. What benefit would Frollo have if Quasi went outside? Maybe if he was convinced making Quasi happy is part of his redemption, but that's a slim chance.
Yeah, usually his "blatantly missing obvious clues" is slightly funny. But this was explicitly stated. He either was not paying attention AT ALL or thought people didn't love this movie enough to call him out?
@@irwin9206 I can’t believe I’m actually replying to an @ like this but come on. This dude goes out of his wayyy to misinterpret movie plot’s to make his take seem on the up & up. When in reality he sounds like someone reciting Cliffs Notes on a movie trailer from a full movie he never watched 🍿🤷🏽♀️ 🙄
Esmeralda's "God help the Outcasts" song is beautiful & one of the most authentic female lead's lyrically, plus the fact that she's not a princess and still the lead should be given props
Honestly Esmerelda and Kida (from Atlantis) gets the short stick from Disney. Kida was royalty and is not part of the Disney princess lineup and Esmerelda is ignored even though Mulan is counted and she's not a princess either. They are some of the strongest females in Disney (I don't know how many of those Disney princess can take on guns and judo throw a guy, or be able to display sexuality, beauty and grace while outrunning guards in an amazing performance). Sure men "save" them in the end, but they left stronger impacts on me than any newer princess in the line up.
I think that was supposed to maybe be a compliment? Considering how good Phantom is. Saying that this may be worse than one of the most celebrated sound tracks of all time is high praise from this channel.
Listen we'll give him credit for the other sins and if he wants to trash the gargoyle song then fine but the rest of the music is top notch quality and it should be respected by everyone with taste
I was so taken aback that he said that that I hope he just lied to get more comment engagement on the video. Bells of Notre Dame, Out There, Hellfire, and the score “Sanctuary” are all like, objectively stunning
How exactly was Frollo "too over the top?" He's easily one of the most complex and realistic Disney villains in history. There's literally millions of people just like him, people who see themselves as perfectly sane individuals who will rationalize every cruel choice they make and hypocritically condemn everyone else.
It was a choice to make Frollo a "judge" who was the prime mover of all the action instead of the archdeacon who barely leaves the cathedral. But it's hard to speculate on how, among all their other choices, they could have script doctored it to work in any of the crappy authority figures who do that work in the novel, or in the other movies for that matter.
@@josephfisher426 To be fair, the 1939 film adaptation of “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” portrayed Frollo as a *judge* because the Hays Code would not allow the church or its clergy members to be portrayed in a negative light.
@@beethovensfidelio I suppose it makes sense that the 1939 version was the starting point for the Disney script. I remember how that movie looked, but not the plot; think I saw it before reading the book, and hence it has been written over. Frollo is not technically a member of the clergy, so there ought to have been a way around that provision of the Hays Code (looking for the Three Musketeers, in which bad clergy are unavoidable, this was done in the UK during that period but not in the US). Oliver le Mauvais could have been the evil government guy and Frollo could have just been a creep. If Frollo is the big bad from the beginning, he doesn't have a reason to be Quasimodo's caretaker.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is honestly one of my favorites. I couldn't have cared less about it as a kid, but I remember watching it as a teenager and being blown away by the music, the themes, and the characters. The "Hellfire" sequence never fails to give me chills, and Frollo is one of the scariest Disney villains in my opinion.
“The music in this movie sucks"? Jeremy, what the hell? Also, Judge Claude Frollo is one of the best Disney villains ever! Also also, amazing voice work. And even more amazing Hellfire-ing!
Hellfire was the only good song. It deserved sins off, but one on for Frollo's face flop on stone at the end. I think he was saying Frollo was too evil to be a movie villain. A lot of people like good motivation in order to make villains more understandable. I don't think you need good motivation because a lot of people are evil and they can be terrifying, but that would be what a lot of people think.
I agree with you on Frollo! He's not 'softened' in anyway: he is TERRIFYING because he resembles actual groups of people (plus, his death scene is PHENOMENAL with all of that symbolism, I was mad when Jeremy said "no" at that scene)
Next to a certain film (guess which.) hunchback is my favorite Disney film. The music in this movie is fantastic and they worked WAY harder than they needed to.
Coming up on The First 48, an argument among friends spins out of control when one of them makes a deadly decision. Cleveland, Ohio, just before dawn, in the working class neighborhood of North Collinwood, a woman flags down a patrol unit. Phone call: 911 operator: 34, go ahead with the info Police officer: we have a male that’s down. Police officer: I believe he’s shot. Police officer: He’s not breathing. When paramedics respond, they find a man on the front porch, dead. Detective Melvin Smith moved from Mississippi to Cleveland as a teen, he will be the lead. The victim, known in the neighborhood as ‘Los’, is a 39-year-old Cleveland native, he was living with his cousin at the house where he was killed. Scene investigation: Smith: His shirt is ripped. Smith: He was involved in a physical fight. Medical examiner: That, there’s the entrance. Detective Leto Sandavol: Upper lip? Medical examiner: Upper lip. Smith: Ah, there it is. Smith: One shot straight through the upper lip into his brain. An hour in, Smith talks to the women who flagged officers down, she’s the victims cousin. Smith: Tell me, what happened to him? Woman: well um.. (She says that they were hanging at her place with a friend, Tamera.) Smith: who is she Woman: Tamera Coleman. Woman: We was drinkin’ & everything was cool, then.. we made a joke like Los broke or whatever. (She claims the victim got angry and hit Tamera) Women: Tamera was like “Los, you don’t put your hand on me, I got someone for you” (She claims Tamera called someone and told them to “take care” of the victim) Woman: she kept on screamin’ they was gonna come over and beat my cousin up. (Then she claims Tamera turned on her) Woman: I was like “now you wanna fight me!?” (They started fighting and it spilled outside, moments later, a man showed up) Smith: then what happened, what did he do? Woman: I don’t know cause me and Tamera was still up there arguing ( she claims she was too busy fighting to get a good look at the shooter) Smith: now your gonna tell me you don’t know, you know everything up until the end, but you don’t know what happened after that. Woman: I never seen that guy go in or outside my house. Smith: Don’t tell me what you didn’t see, tell me what you saw! Smith: Somebody shot your cousin and killed him and you know who shot him and you won’t tell me. Woman: we was still on the corner fighting. Smith: so somebody shot your cousin so who did it! You know who shot him. Woman: no Smith: I’m not sure what to do with you. Smith: I don’t know why she won’t cooperate, it’s her cousin. She knows Tamera called someone, she knows a guy came over there but she doesn’t know anything after that, I don’t buy it. Smith: I don’t know how your conscience is gonna be with you for the rest of your life if we don’t solve this and you never tell me who you saw shoot your cousin and kill him, you ready to tell me what I need to know? Woman: the man who was walking down the street. Smith: walking down the street towards your house!? Woman: yes. He looked like he had something over his shirt or whatever. (She claims she didn’t see anything else but says Tamera would know, she gives a possible address for Tamera) They find Tamera at a vacant apartment and bring her to Homicide for question, she admits to fighting the victim and his cousin, but denies calling anyone and claims that Los was still alive she left. However.. They catch her on surveillance making a phone call to someone where she confesses to calling the suspect, she’s booked for manslaughter. Two hours later she wants to talk again. This time she admits to calling the suspect named Ed but still denies seeing the murder but guarantees it was Ed who she identifies as Ed Johnson. 26-year-old Edwardlee Johnson has numerous convictions including robbery, assault and concealed carry. Smith: Ed went over with a gun, he intended to do some damage, he’s considered armed and extremely dangerous. We need to find this guy and take ‘em down. For the next few days, the fugitive task force hits several locations looking for Johnson, but as the first 48 runs out, Johnson is nowhere to be found. Summary: In the First 48, Cleveland Detectives responded to the murder of a man named “Los”, discovered he had gotten into a fight with a friend who called the suspect to the seen, identified the suspect as Edwardlee Johnson, searched for Johnson but have been unable to find him. 10 days into the investigation, Johnson turns himself in with his attorney. Smith:He’s been through the system quite a few times, he knows how to maneuver his way around, I really don’t expect a whole lot out of this guy. Interview with the suspect: Smith: Ok, I’m Detective Smith from the Homicide unit. Smith: would you like to talk to me or would you like to have your attorney? ------------------------------------------- Johnson: Attorney, sir. Smith: he’s not talking, I’ll precede with the case as is. Smith: I didn’t see any signs of remorse in Edwards eyes. Smith: He gets a phone call, gets the gun, and goes to the scene and kills the victim, this guy’s a stone-cold killer. Tamera may not have intended for him to kill the victim but the facts are that the phone call is the reason why the victim is dead. Edwardlee Johnson was subsequently found guilty of murder. He was sentenced to 25 years to life. Tamera Coleman plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and received a mandatory 3 year sentence
i read a theory that the ending was just quasimodo’s imagination and that’s why there’s no lava and everyone likes him because in the original tale he starved himself to death sitting beside Esmereldas body
Close to the actual story. Shes actually hung, Quasi kills Frollo and then starves himself to death at Esmeraldas grave. And Cinderella's step sister have their eyes pecked out. Ariel turns into seafoam when she refuses to kill her prince to live since he married someone else. Snow White forced her step mother to dance in hot iron shoes until death. Sleeping beauty is about a king who breaks into a sleeping womans home and gives her twins........ Then leaves with her still unconscious. Pretty sure disney cant make money on those kinds of stories. The real fairy tales are far darker and more horrific. Most of them ironically written by the brothers grim
Mildly indignant that there's no sin off for Hellfire, considering how dark and mature the subject matter is and how ballsy it is to have in a kid's video.
Dude, its disney. Of course theres a shitload of dark & adult stuff in the disney films but of course no ones so much as bad an eye at it because everyones all its a cartoon so no biggie right?
Should have been a sin off for the final note sang in the intro song, too. That dude hitting that note in full voice is absurd. Such great music in this film.
How did I miss you ripping on my favorite movie?? Okay. I know this is all satire, but the fact that you said the music sucks is mind boggling to me. This score by Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz is phenomenal! And arguably one of the best Disney soundtracks of all time!
I'm sorry, the music "sucks?" This is regarded as one of Alan Menkan's absolute best scores, and it only gets better in the stage adaptation. I'll agree that the presentation in the film (and even a bit in the play) is a bit messy, but the music is phenomenal.
I think the difference there is that those songs weren’t sung by the character in question, like those were more like “you know you wanna be with them, do it” while he was singing the song himself, saying his OWN desires so I can see why it would be more thirsty than some others XD
I’m 100% convinced that the gargoyles were supposed to be in Quasimodo’s head, but near the end of production some executive went, “Nah, kids won’t get it. Just make ‘em real for no reason.”
“Lava pouring things are weird to build into a church” Nope, actually quite common for churches, castles, and any tall stone building that might be seiged or attacked. It’s specifically to pour hot tar on intruders in the exact way shown in the movie.
Totally. I think on the whole HOND is a pretty weak movie and was the first step towards the decline of the Disney renaissance. However, it definitely has one of the strongest Disney villains/villain songs in the entire Disney catalogue.
Disturbing: The scene where Quasimodo has tomatoes thrown at him is a cleaned up version of him being whipped in the original novel, tomato juice standing in for blood.🍅🍅🍅🍅
Too bad they didn’t would have been the best part of the movie aside from them editing the movie for him to just be dropped in the well and then just roll the credits like he should have been.
*I was waiting for a "1 sin off" at the Sanctuary! scene. Quasimodo holding Esmeralda over his head and yelling "Sanctuary" always gives me chills!* This movie deserved more sins taken off, it's a masterpiece -and one of the darkest Disney films!
Entertaining video, but I think you got a few points wrong about certain scenes. 1. Frollo's not purposely being over the top. He's so wrapped in hypocrisy and racism that he honestly believes an imperfect baby spawned from another ethnic group is of Satan. What other animated Disney film ever had the spine to make the villain say, "This is an unholy demon!" or mention literally sending someone to Hell? A bit creepy and laying it on thick for a kids' movie, but as an adult, I can certainly appreciate this insight into how dark this character is going to be throughout the film. 2. The talking gargoyles aren't magic. Quasi imagines that they can speak so he doesn't feel so alone. As for their movement and lines when they aren’t in Quasi’s presence, he imagines they have hobbies and side conversations when he’s not around. Authors do it all the time with their fictional characters. Quasi just never got around to writing his imagined gargoyle characterizations. 3. Disney needed the gargoyles for comedy. Otherwise, it would be too dark to keep children entertained for over an hour. Besides, you forget that gargoyles were meant to frighten evil spirits. The antics of these three keep the dark spirit of Frollo from tainting every last scene of this movie. They are humorous hope in what would otherwise be an animated documentary about oppression. Job well done, guys. 4. Clopin tells us what Frollo is getting out of keeping Quasi around. "And for one time in his life of power and control..." What better power and control than an enslaved person who delights in catering to your every whim and telling you how great you are? 5. The movie is supposed to make you a little mistrustful. In Christianity, there are hypocritic leaders like Frollo and leaders who try to do the right thing like the Archdeacon. There are some who misuse religious beliefs as an excuse to harm others (again, like Frollo) and others who genuinely want to serve their deity of choice by having compassion for their fellow man (like Esmeralada). No, it's not just in Christianity; it happens in other faiths too. The point is that someone is neither automatically good nor automatically bad as a person based on what religion they claim to follow, so judging someone based solely on religious beliefs is pointless at best. 6. Quasi's been in the cathedral for 20 years, during which he has no doubt gotten bored and tried a few short climbs. Even if not, he has obviously gained strength from years of ringing the bells, so he is confident in his ability to support his own weight by his arms. 7. This movie is supposed to be offensive. If you hate (or at least have a certain lack of respect for) an entire race, you don't call them the proper word for their ethnic group; you call them the local offensive term. Thus, the people of Paris will say "gypsies" instead of "Romani." 8. Everyone apparently knows the legend of the bell ringer of Notre Dame. (Think of the first scene here.) So who could that hideous guy be that no one has seen before, the one with the hunch? Must be the legendary bell ringer among us at last. 9. Sin should be taken off for “God Help the Outcasts.” Say what you want about the timing; the song is beautiful. 10. Sin should be removed for the way “Heaven’s Light” transitions into “Hellfire.” The stark contrast of the two songs should make the transition impossible, but no. Furthermore, they seem to be happening simultaneously and are about reactions to the same event, thus giving an insight into the souls of each of the two characters. Quasi’s reaction to strong emotion is to believe he feels the light of Heaven, whereas Frollo’s is to feel as if he’s burning in Hell. Thus, despite years of abuse, Quasi seems to have developed a good heart and not turned out like his captor. 11. Another sin off for the relation of the Latin and English lyrics of “Hellfire.” The Latin lyrics are about confessing sin, and Frollo really goes for the concept. However, during the part where the monks are saying their sin is their own fault; Frollo denies being at fault for his own sins. At that point, the Latin prayer ends, as if even God cannot save Frollo from the powers of Hell now. The Latin choir does, however, return at the end to plead for the Lord to have mercy. Is this because Frollo is asking for God’s mercy at this time as well, or are they praying that God has mercy on them because Frollo has just vowed to destroy the entire city, or are they praying that God will save them from ending up so clearly fallen from grace like Frollo is now? 12. Frollo is also appealing to the patron saint of women, children, and the poor for permission to do something despicable to an impoverished teenage girl, and he still believes his prayers should be answered because of how righteous he is. 13. The croissant line actually fits. The gargoyles are trying to make him feel better by pointing out his good qualities, but since they’re the comedy relief of this movie as opposed to the dashing prince of other movies, their attempts are well intentioned but botched. They mean well, but yes, they’re going to say stupid lines because that’s how comedy relief characters work. 14. Of course they’re going to hang the spies. That’s typically what people have done with spies throughout history. What did you want them to do, serve them muffins and tea? 15. Sin should be off for Frollo’s death. His last words are “And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!” In what can only be considered divine intervention, Frollo’s foothold crumbles, plunging him toward the molten metal and bonfire mixture on the ground, i.e. he pronounced his own sentence, and God has judged him wicked, not righteous as Frollo believed himself to be. This literal falling into fire would also imply that Frollo is going to spend eternity in Hell, as he feared in his song. 16. I should have said it earlier. There should be a sin removed for the intricate details of animation in this film. Just look at the carving around the church doors, for example.
Wow. It’s amazing to go back to old films you watched when you were a kid to see all the hidden messages in the film you didn’t see before. Great analysis👏
Yes, yes to all of this. I was so disappointed to see no sin removed for that epic shot of Quasi holding Esmerelda overhead in front of the window: it’s such an extraordinary shot, and an extraordinary moment in general.
i think Hellfire was worth a sin (maybe even 5 sins) off as Disney's ballsiest song plus the creative way the latin phrases and imagery display his inner conscious. also its a good song.
I can’t believe, after all the “he survives this” and “terrible aim” sins we’ve gotten, an arrow actually hitting it’s target for once is still sinned!
He and his crew do not care about actual sins, remember when this channel pointed actual errors like a character being out of place in a different shot or a prop not being there or lemgitmate plot holes
Okay, but how did the guards not hit the horse? That was like 50 to 100 arrows being shot, and I could have sworn that one of then nearly hit the horse.
@@osmanyousif7849 I know, right? Playing a Legend of Zelda game, I sometimes hit horses, and my aim is terrible! (Now that I think about it, that's probably the reason I hit the horses.)
"The music in this movie sucks." I mean I knew this channel was going downhill, but acting like "Out There", "God Help The Outcasts", and "Hellfire" aren't absolute CLASSICS is mind-blowing!
"...he legitimately thinks he's an otherwise sinless person." Yeah, yup. No kidding. That's kind of the whole point of the morally-corrupt religious figure antagonist, my guy.
He didn't think that at all. He knew he was sinful, but he was good at lying to himself. The statues at the beginning demonstrated his fear of damnation. Also, he seemed to be more of a government leader than a church leader. He had that bishop keeping him in check for half the movie.
To further your point, Clopin does straight say in his opening song “frollo saw corruption everywhere except within” and the only time he actually feared for his soul was when the archdeacon pointed out he had just killed a person on the steps of a church
he literally sinned Frollo for seeing himself as free of sin and being manipulative like bro that's the point. next you're gonna sin Megatron because he wants to destroy the autobots or some shit
The only sin about The Hunchback of Notre Dame is how underrated it is! I'm willing to die on this hill when I say it's golden age Disney's best movie.
You know how comments make videos more popular? That may contribute to his dubious decisions. Also, let's not forget he needed to add one at the end for the stone face flop.
Unlike beauty and the beast, this movie is actually an amazing example of gaslighting Stockholm syndrome. The way he loves Frollo unconditionally, trusts him, etc. The other good example of it is Tangled with mother gothel
Everyone: *commenting about their fury over various sins, boosting the video for the algorithm in the process* CinemaSins: you have activated my trap card
Yeah I really think he said these things just to boost his algorithm, I mean first he said this movie’s music sucks when it’s loved by a LOT of people, then he proceeded to say that it’s worse than Phantom, one of the most popular musicals out there, so this was bound to get people riled up
I need to address the whole “gargoyles being alive” thing. No they are not actually alive, but they are to Quasi. He is so lonely that he makes up his friends in his mind. The only person he has interacted with for the first 20 yrs of his life is Frollo so he’s going to be lonely.
This is actually up for debate. There are no official sources that say either is true, so it's up to audience interpretation. Cases can be made for both sides.
Anyone else always see the gargoyles as just statues? A manifestation of Quasimodo’s loneliness and inner dialogue. Even at the end when they’re fighting, it was always just him.
I liked in the musical that they make it clear that the statutes (which are the saints... FAR better and more appropriate) act more as his inner monologue to help him combat his loneliness and reconcile his faith with the horrors frollo commits. I really hope the musical is made into a movie.
Reilly thought, What's sad about it is that almost all of it could be forgiven if they made it clear the gargoyles were only figment of his imagination and not actually living things that can interact with the environment.
"I'd give every sin back in every movie if he threw her over the railing right now like a wrestling move" actually made me cackle out loud. However, the music in this movie is excellent and it's weirdly one of my favorite disney movies that I'm sure has nothing to do with being raised catholic and all the guilt that comes with that.... hahaha
@@jessicamacaulay7462 Some communities really push on the "good loves you" bit, others focus on the "being good to others" bit or the "loved ones never truly leave" bit. But quite a few (a rather disturbing amount when you look at it thinking they're just a few small cults but realize you probably know people like this) really, really focus on "you're born wicked and disgusting, every feeling other than devotion pushes you to further to sin and the only thing between you and the eternal, unimaginable suffering that you deserve for being you is unconditional devotion to the church, I mean to God".
@@Zancibar ... Ok, I appreciate you taking the time to type that out, but still am missing what that has to do with the movie? What I got, is the original commenter feels guilty about this having been their fav movie, and they were raised Catholic, but... the one actual Catholic in this movie (the priest) was against Frollo, so... I'm still confused
@@jessicamacaulay7462 Guilt is not necessarilly rational. And it's intrusive, it sticks to everything until you can't recognize feelings when they're not covered in guilt. Probably not the case and I'm also misunderstanding but the point is that when you're raised in guilt (or any negative emotion for that matter) it becomes really easy to trigger and I believe that's the joke, that this movie with heavy religious themes is his favorite, definitely nothing to do with being raised to adore catholic mythos. It could also be an alusion of losing their faith and still struggling with guilt so they praise this movie who portrays faith in a (cuasi-) good light while being a good movie. I'm getting a bit too deep with the psychoanalisis, sorry, but that's kind of the joke as far as I got it.
"i would remove evry sin from every movie ever if he threw her over the balcony right now like a wrestling movie!" ....i'm going to guess he doesn't know how the original source material goes
original; for those who don't know, in the original source material, the haunchbacker actually kills her and dies by her side due to grieving edit; so turns out my french teacher lied to me, but that's besides the point. Esmeralda does die in the original, just not by Quasimodo's hand. (sorry that i was misinformed) and it's believed that Quasimodo finds her body and dies emvracing it (? from what i understood) thank for correcting me credit for the actual info goes to: ShakespeardOfBorg who replied to my misinfomred self
@@kefiexe nope. In the book Esmeralda is hanged and her body dumped with all the other disgraced copses. Quasimodo finds her body and it's assumed he dies embracing it as that's how their skeletons are found years later.
@@ShakespeareOfBorg And he throws Frollo off of Notre Dame after he sees him laughing at Esmerelda's execution. Note that in the book, he's the Archdeacon, not the Minister for Justice.
Frollo didn’t keep Quasimodo because he thought Quasi would be useful to him. The priest convinced Frollo he would go to hell if he killed the baby and that raising him would absolve Frollo of the sin from killing his mother on the steps on the church. So, either way, Frollo is only interested in himself but for different reasons
To be fair, Jeremy also said the music in Princess and the Frog is bland and forgettable (along with saying *_Keith David_* has the worst voice), and he also hates Emperor's New Groove. So he just has terrible taste
@@hellishcatt him saying Keith David has the worst voice is down right insulting and reprehensible. It’s one of the worst things he’s ever said about any movie on any of his videos ever. He has shitty taste if he actually think that.
@@tiffcat3887 I liked the twilight vids, but for the other vids half the stuff the sin is just things that are resolved in the movie if they actually paid attentiom
Not all traditionally named "gypsies" were Romani. It's actually offensive to the non-Romani gypsies to be lumped in with the Romani, who were often their enemies and oppressors. This is one of those "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" moments.
CS: the music sucks Me: so you woke and chose violence today. I demand 10 sins off for the music, 5 belonging to hellfire alone. I’ve never heard such blasphemy in my life
Yes absolutely. It beats out "Be Prepared" because this is pure emotional torment which I think adds a level of humanity for Frollo. Without this he is the single worst villain imaginable. Scar on the other hand has already shown his soft side (when his song comes around) and we don't need to see it in his song.
Coming up on The First 48, an argument among friends spins out of control when one of them makes a deadly decision. Cleveland, Ohio, just before dawn, in the working class neighborhood of North Collinwood, a woman flags down a patrol unit. Phone call: 911 operator: 34, go ahead with the info Police officer: we have a male that’s down. Police officer: I believe he’s shot. Police officer: He’s not breathing. When paramedics respond, they find a man on the front porch, dead. Detective Melvin Smith moved from Mississippi to Cleveland as a teen, he will be the lead. The victim, known in the neighborhood as ‘Los’, is a 39-year-old Cleveland native, he was living with his cousin at the house where he was killed. Scene investigation: Smith: His shirt is ripped. Smith: He was involved in a physical fight. Medical examiner: That, there’s the entrance. Detective Leto Sandavol: Upper lip? Medical examiner: Upper lip. Smith: Ah, there it is. Smith: One shot straight through the upper lip into his brain. An hour in, Smith talks to the women who flagged officers down, she’s the victims cousin. Smith: Tell me, what happened to him? Woman: well um.. (She says that they were hanging at her place with a friend, Tamera.) Smith: who is she Woman: Tamera Coleman. Woman: We was drinkin’ & everything was cool, then.. we made a joke like Los broke or whatever. (She claims the victim got angry and hit Tamera) Women: Tamera was like “Los, you don’t put your hand on me, I got someone for you” (She claims Tamera called someone and told them to “take care” of the victim) Woman: she kept on screamin’ they was gonna come over and beat my cousin up. (Then she claims Tamera turned on her) Woman: I was like “now you wanna fight me!?” (They started fighting and it spilled outside, moments later, a man showed up) Smith: then what happened, what did he do? Woman: I don’t know cause me and Tamera was still up there arguing ( she claims she was too busy fighting to get a good look at the shooter) Smith: now your gonna tell me you don’t know, you know everything up until the end, but you don’t know what happened after that. Woman: I never seen that guy go in or outside my house. Smith: Don’t tell me what you didn’t see, tell me what you saw! Smith: Somebody shot your cousin and killed him and you know who shot him and you won’t tell me. Woman: we was still on the corner fighting. Smith: so somebody shot your cousin so who did it! You know who shot him. Woman: no Smith: I’m not sure what to do with you. Smith: I don’t know why she won’t cooperate, it’s her cousin. She knows Tamera called someone, she knows a guy came over there but she doesn’t know anything after that, I don’t buy it. Smith: I don’t know how your conscience is gonna be with you for the rest of your life if we don’t solve this and you never tell me who you saw shoot your cousin and kill him, you ready to tell me what I need to know? Woman: the man who was walking down the street. Smith: walking down the street towards your house!? Woman: yes. He looked like he had something over his shirt or whatever. (She claims she didn’t see anything else but says Tamera would know, she gives a possible address for Tamera) They find Tamera at a vacant apartment and bring her to Homicide for question, she admits to fighting the victim and his cousin, but denies calling anyone and claims that Los was still alive she left. However.. They catch her on surveillance making a phone call to someone where she confesses to calling the suspect, she’s booked for manslaughter. Two hours later she wants to talk again. This time she admits to calling the suspect named Ed but still denies seeing the murder but guarantees it was Ed who she identifies as Ed Johnson. 26-year-old Edwardlee Johnson has numerous convictions including robbery, assault and concealed carry. Smith: Ed went over with a gun, he intended to do some damage, he’s considered armed and extremely dangerous. We need to find this guy and take ‘em down. For the next few days, the fugitive task force hits several locations looking for Johnson, but as the first 48 runs out, Johnson is nowhere to be found. Summary: In the First 48, Cleveland Detectives responded to the murder of a man named “Los”, discovered he had gotten into a fight with a friend who called the suspect to the seen, identified the suspect as Edwardlee Johnson, searched for Johnson but have been unable to find him. 10 days into the investigation, Johnson turns himself in with his attorney. Smith:He’s been through the system quite a few times, he knows how to maneuver his way around, I really don’t expect a whole lot out of this guy. Interview with the suspect: Smith: Ok, I’m Detective Smith from the Homicide unit. Smith: would you like to talk to me or would you like to have your attorney? ------------------------------------------- Johnson: Attorney, sir. Smith: he’s not talking, I’ll precede with the case as is. Smith: I didn’t see any signs of remorse in Edwards eyes. Smith: He gets a phone call, gets the gun, and goes to the scene and kills the victim, this guy’s a stone-cold killer. Tamera may not have intended for him to kill the victim but the facts are that the phone call is the reason why the victim is dead. Edwardlee Johnson was subsequently found guilty of murder. He was sentenced to 25 years to life. Tamera Coleman plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and received a mandatory 3 year sentence
Yup, they were meant to be looking down on people. However, someone pointed out you can see the eyes literally move to look down at Frollo. It is a very subtle animation so you have to look for it.
Sin 28 about the "What does Frollo get out of Quasimoto" bit. It's stated in the intro song. Frollo gets "redemtion" for killing his mother as he is worried for his immortal soul at that moment in time. The one day use thing is just a potiental perk that he states, but clearly doesn't know it will be useful.
Really stupid too since he gave credit for Hercules for its Greek Corus, even though it’s really corny and lame. Everyone can have different tastes in music, but shitting on something just because it didn’t connect with you is total horseshit
@Cockjugglingthundercunt III Accountdeletedbyyoutube Because he's supposed to be Romani - the book makes it make a bit more sense. However, I think they mean Esmeralda, Clopin, and the other Romanis with this comment.
@Cockjugglingthundercunt III Accountdeletedbyyoutube True. But it was considered back then. Most of the Romani shown here have tannish skin (likely from living constantly in the streets and thus in the sun). So you belonged to a different "race" if you weren't "white French". Look how Hitler treated the Jews. He defined them as a race rather than a religious faith.
Yes. I honestly find it quite tone-deaf of him to call this "cartoonishly evil" when that is exactly how Romani people were actually treated in a lot of places for a lot of history, and in some places still today.
"The music sucks" And so tables where thrown all over the world from raging fans, resulting in tree deficiency and overworked woodworkers... Damn you Sinemasins, you're contributing to the environmental hazards..
I like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin (except for Jafar he sucks), loved Jungle Book but absolutely hated The Lion King (the original is my favorite movie of all time because of the impact it had on my childhood, that should put it in perspective) and Mulan ! Cinderella and Dumbo I haven't seen but they don't seem like they're as good as the originals (from what I heard Dumbo isn't even close - the kids's performances apparently are so wooden) ! That's where I stand on it so far - even though I like some of them they don't capture the magic of the originals so Disney has to either make them consistently good or just stop making them !
Well, if I had to take a guess, based on how the remakes of Dumbo, Lion King and Mulan turned out, I'd say the movie will be almost three hours, though half of that time will add absolutely nothing to the overall plot. Furthermore, they'll probably treat the hunchback as a secret descendant of a race of gods, or whatever they want to do to double down on what they added in the Aladdin remake.
@@godzillavkk I'm actually 20 and these movies are not just for kids ! Everyone enjoys them (just like the the original animated ones) ! This saying that animated movies are "just for kids" is the stupidest thing I ever heard and needs to go away, especially when these are Live Action movies ! So many adults go to Disneyland and World because they simply want to ! This argument is SO weak bro ! We should be able to enjoy these as well !
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Ok but Hellfire almost had a naked Esmeralda in the fire so yeah it is definitely the horniest and most villain song ever
yea
What about the lion sex song from The Lion King?
@@Jacob-ge1py you made it sound a lot worse
@@karimjrhabassi94 he’s not wrong though. In the old one but not the new one, and yes it does sound more worse for the children
And still had that sweet G rating
Movie: “SHE WILL BE MINE OR SHE WILL BURRRRRN”
Child me: Yes this my favorite Disney song
It is easily the best villain song, hands down. Except MAYBE Be Prepared (the original).
@@moontheraisin6444 I would 100% agree except for the be prepared part.
@@josephrhodes4613 Fair enough
The movie: HELL FIIIRE!!!!!
5yrs old me: ah yes appropriate
@@josephrhodes4613 So you think "Hellfire" is better?
"The music in this movie sucks"
**rolls up sleeves aggressively**
It’s the best out of all Disney movies to me😭
I literally yelled; "what the fuck?!" when he said that. This movie's music is rad
Idina Menzel: Remember, no movie is without sin.
The only songs I remember are Esmeralda's God Help the Outcasts and Frodo's Hellfire.
I agree.
A small correction: Frolo is not a religious leader. He is a civil magistrate. Conversely, the one religious leader in the film actively opposes his evils plans.
It is kind of vague, though. I definitely thought he was, like, a priest or something for a really long time.
It doesn't help that he and the priest were originally the same character. He's basically guard-dogging morality in this.
Which is absolutely the proper way to look at this historically too.
State always does the killing.
Yeah I mean it’s well-documented that the reason Frollo and the archdeacon are separate characters for the film (as opposed to frollo being the archdeacon, as in the source material) was because they were trying to dodge as much heat as possible from the Catholic Church.
@@melodramaticdragon5826 "Judge Frollo" Dudes a judge.
Jeremy: “the music in this movie sucks”
The comments section: “so, you have chosen death.”
AS I'M READING, YOU'RE RIGHT!! XD
Going by your profile picture you missed your opportunity to say "So, you have chosen meglovania."
@@CynderSpirit He should have said "The comment section will give him quite a *bad time.* "
My only regret is that I have but one like to give.
Criticism is his power source!
“The music sucks.”
Me: And I took that personally
Ikr
So did everybody else!
faxxx
Hellfire is just a masterpiece
The Bells of Notre Dame is the best music opening ever and I will fight you on that
"The music sucks."
*And just like that, the Cinemasins headquarters were raided by pissed off HOND fans.*
And, tbh, some non-hunchback fans. We can all agree that the music is incredible wether you love, like or don’t like the film.
@@LordBummenbachsBalls perhaps he just has a different taste than you lot? Just bc the majority seem to like it, doesn't mean its "incredible"
@@hellishcatt I’m not saying that because people think it is incredible it must mean that it is. The music is incredible, because it’s completely different to what Disney would do normally.
I considered it.
@@hellishcatt There is a difference between "the music sucks" and "i don"t like the music". One is presented as fact, the other as opinion.
Props to disney for making their darkest song, "hellfire"
And one of the best
You know what's funny? I was watching this movie yesterday
I love that song. Scared the hell out of me as a kid but I appreciate it so much now
@@anar8343 wow that was hillarious🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes!!!
No sins off for when Esmeralda sings “God Help the Outcasts,” not even for the AMAZING rendition of the inside of Notre Dame? They got down everything. It’s so beautiful almost like you’re actually there yourself. Ugh just thinking about the sheer amount of work and time the artists had to do
It's 'cause "the music in this movie sucks" 🤦
And yeah, your pfp really days much on what i feel about this video XD
The Disney animation tram camped out at Notre Dame to get the details just right 👍
Two things.
One. You kind of have to be a Christian, or at the very least you need to have more than a passing knowledge of the New Testament to understand what this song is getting at. All of the really important religious people used to hate Jesus when he was still preaching, and they were wrong about that. Maybe they are wrong about Esmeralda and her people as well.
Two. I think this song was based off of a real prayer that some Catholics pray today. I’m not sure, because I wasn’t raised Catholic. But I think some people do pray the prayer “God help the outcasts.“ I wouldn’t go quoting myself on that, though. They should try it at least once, if they haven’t done it already.
“The music in this sucks, it’s worse than Phantom”
...them’s fightin’ words, son.
he insulted my favorite musical (phantom) and the theatrical version of hunchback by saying the music sucks. im hurt.
Yeah idk what's wrong with Phantom
In one line, he insulted two of the greatest musical productions of all time...
@@davidtaylor142 The Musical is good, not so hot on the movie and it’s music. I prefer the book to both. I genuinely recommend it to anyone half interested in Phantom of the Opera.
@@ozthegreatandpowerful468 well he insulted at least one. Hunchback is ok at best
I’m fine with Jeremey having his own opinion, but I was shocked when he said he didn’t like the music.
He doesn’t like a lot of the Disney stuff but it’s weird to see remove points for goddamn Hercules despite it being very inferior to this movie especially when it comes to the soundtrack. Even if was “Yeah I know you people love this movie but I don’t think it works yada yada yada so here’s a sin” I would’ve been fine since it’s self aware asshole logic. Saying the music sucks like it’s fact is complete biased dogshit
Me too--I found a metal cover of 'Bells of Notre Dame' and still listen to it every now and then.
If it annoyed you the video was sucessful
When my mom said she didn't like Tom Hulce's singing voice in this movie I nearly disowned her on the spot. There's no accounting for some people's bad taste XD
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, but the music in this movie is GOLD. That’s a FACT!
"The music in this movie sucks"
Me: *immediately stops watching, goes to comment section, sees everyone else freaking out, types comment, closes video*
preach
"He only kept the baby because he thought he might be useful." Ummmm no he kept it because he was afraid of the judgment of god. Hence "the eyes of notre dame" and the panic on his face at that insinuation. I try not to be too nitpicky with stuff, but blatantly missing heavily telegraphed character ques will get under my skin.
He always does, it's part of his shtick...but to claim to be such a smartass his points should actually be smart. He sounds like he read the description on wikipedia and wrote snappy critiques, like to be so smart he sounds dumbbb
Not only that, but he also made it a sin that Frollo kept Quasi in the bell tower at seemingly no benfit to him, but it's not about that. Frollo is keeping Quasi out of some attempt at redemption, but he would be disgusted if anyone discovered that he existed, and worse, that Frollo was associated with him. What benefit would Frollo have if Quasi went outside? Maybe if he was convinced making Quasi happy is part of his redemption, but that's a slim chance.
Damn just enjoy the video, don’t need to fact check shit
Yeah, usually his "blatantly missing obvious clues" is slightly funny. But this was explicitly stated. He either was not paying attention AT ALL or thought people didn't love this movie enough to call him out?
@@irwin9206 I can’t believe I’m actually replying to an @ like this but come on. This dude goes out of his wayyy to misinterpret movie plot’s to make his take seem on the up & up. When in reality he sounds like someone reciting Cliffs Notes on a movie trailer from a full movie he never watched 🍿🤷🏽♀️ 🙄
“The music in this movie sucks..”
Me: “That better be a f**king joke buddy”
I’m offended LOL
Hellfire has entered the chat
@@glendarjj3991 exactly
Hellfire is literally the best Disney song of all time
@@Undonebasher72 no where near my favourite, but even I can’t deny that it is the best.
Esmeralda's "God help the Outcasts" song is beautiful & one of the most authentic female lead's lyrically, plus the fact that she's not a princess and still the lead should be given props
Honestly Esmerelda and Kida (from Atlantis) gets the short stick from Disney. Kida was royalty and is not part of the Disney princess lineup and Esmerelda is ignored even though Mulan is counted and she's not a princess either. They are some of the strongest females in Disney (I don't know how many of those Disney princess can take on guns and judo throw a guy, or be able to display sexuality, beauty and grace while outrunning guards in an amazing performance). Sure men "save" them in the end, but they left stronger impacts on me than any newer princess in the line up.
Yes!
"The music in this movie sucks. It may be even worse than Phantom"
Honey, you got a big storm coming
I think that was supposed to maybe be a compliment? Considering how good Phantom is. Saying that this may be worse than one of the most celebrated sound tracks of all time is high praise from this channel.
Let us all brace ourselves.
@@ianjohn2648yeah I was thinking he’s just being sarcastic, considering that Phantom is literally a masterpiece- and so is Hunchback
I like how literally everyone disagrees about his horrible music opinion
Listen we'll give him credit for the other sins and if he wants to trash the gargoyle song then fine but the rest of the music is top notch quality and it should be respected by everyone with taste
I was so taken aback that he said that that I hope he just lied to get more comment engagement on the video. Bells of Notre Dame, Out There, Hellfire, and the score “Sanctuary” are all like, objectively stunning
@@annahill99 Bells of Notre Dame, Hellfire, Court of miracles have to be the best. Honorable mention for Topsy turvy
@@NoName-cp1bn Are we all not going to mention the gentle beauty behind Heaven's Light and God Help the Outcasts?
@@amphitritemists4595 I liked that but i liked the choir singing in hellfire, Topsy turvy and court of miracles more
The fact that you didn't take fifty sins off for hellfire shows you've lost a step
I clicked exclusively to watch a sin come off for Hellfire and I’ve never been so devastated
NAH ME TOO
same I’m genuinely hurt after watching this 😭
How exactly was Frollo "too over the top?" He's easily one of the most complex and realistic Disney villains in history. There's literally millions of people just like him, people who see themselves as perfectly sane individuals who will rationalize every cruel choice they make and hypocritically condemn everyone else.
It was a choice to make Frollo a "judge" who was the prime mover of all the action instead of the archdeacon who barely leaves the cathedral. But it's hard to speculate on how, among all their other choices, they could have script doctored it to work in any of the crappy authority figures who do that work in the novel, or in the other movies for that matter.
@@josephfisher426 To be fair, the 1939 film adaptation of “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” portrayed Frollo as a *judge* because the Hays Code would not allow the church or its clergy members to be portrayed in a negative light.
*cough* Hitler... *cough*
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster Yep. Like Frollo, Hitler wanted to eliminate the Romani population: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_genocide
@@beethovensfidelio I suppose it makes sense that the 1939 version was the starting point for the Disney script. I remember how that movie looked, but not the plot; think I saw it before reading the book, and hence it has been written over.
Frollo is not technically a member of the clergy, so there ought to have been a way around that provision of the Hays Code (looking for the Three Musketeers, in which bad clergy are unavoidable, this was done in the UK during that period but not in the US). Oliver le Mauvais could have been the evil government guy and Frollo could have just been a creep.
If Frollo is the big bad from the beginning, he doesn't have a reason to be Quasimodo's caretaker.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is honestly one of my favorites. I couldn't have cared less about it as a kid, but I remember watching it as a teenager and being blown away by the music, the themes, and the characters. The "Hellfire" sequence never fails to give me chills, and Frollo is one of the scariest Disney villains in my opinion.
I watched it for the first time two days ago and loved it! Quasimodo and Esmeralda are my favorite characters
The lack of a negative sin for "Hellfire" is disturbing.
I was actually hoping he'd take off a scene for the "Sanctuary" scene as well because that and the "Hellfire" scene are the two scenes I like.
@@theflickchick9850 it's some of the most beautiful songs from a Disney movie ever.
@@emilandersen2195 i agree two of the reasons I re watch this film so often 👏🏻
The fact that this movie received more sins than Dumbo is disturbing.
“The music in this movie sucks"? Jeremy, what the hell? Also, Judge Claude Frollo is one of the best Disney villains ever! Also also, amazing voice work. And even more amazing Hellfire-ing!
Hellfire was the only good song. It deserved sins off, but one on for Frollo's face flop on stone at the end. I think he was saying Frollo was too evil to be a movie villain. A lot of people like good motivation in order to make villains more understandable. I don't think you need good motivation because a lot of people are evil and they can be terrifying, but that would be what a lot of people think.
Bells of Notre Dame also a banger 👌
I agree with you on Frollo! He's not 'softened' in anyway: he is TERRIFYING because he resembles actual groups of people (plus, his death scene is PHENOMENAL with all of that symbolism, I was mad when Jeremy said "no" at that scene)
It’s called having a opinion
@@curryposterizeslewashedjam3588 yup and that's mine :)
Best animated Disney movie ever. AWESOME music (aside from the gargoyles song)
The gargoyle song doesnt count because I selectively remove them from my memories of the movie
Yeah but we can all say this should NOT be rated G
Next to a certain film (guess which.) hunchback is my favorite Disney film.
The music in this movie is fantastic and they worked WAY harder than they needed to.
But the book is sad and dark as hell
Wall-e.
Funfact: The animation of Esmeralda in the fireplace, was originally naked and the MPAA at the time told the animators to give her clothes.
I remember reading about that one
Oh. OH
Oh really? Dam thats hot.
@@Aloyus_Knight A'ight, listen here, you little shi-
How would you even be able to tell?😂😂
Jeremy: The music in this movie sucks
And Jeremy was never seen again
Because the entire cinema sins family assaulted him and buried him in the backyard
Jeremy: the music sucks
*and then you hear a gunshot*
Who tf is Jeremy?
@@nighttaco10blooperton8 the narrator for every sins video
Coming up on The First 48, an argument among friends spins out of control when one of them makes a deadly decision.
Cleveland, Ohio, just before dawn, in the working class neighborhood of North Collinwood, a woman flags down a patrol unit.
Phone call:
911 operator: 34, go ahead with the info
Police officer: we have a male that’s down.
Police officer: I believe he’s shot.
Police officer: He’s not breathing.
When paramedics respond, they find a man on the front porch, dead. Detective Melvin Smith moved from Mississippi to Cleveland as a teen, he will be the lead. The victim, known in the neighborhood as ‘Los’, is a 39-year-old Cleveland native, he was living with his cousin at the house where he was killed.
Scene investigation:
Smith: His shirt is ripped.
Smith: He was involved in a physical fight.
Medical examiner: That, there’s the entrance.
Detective Leto Sandavol: Upper lip?
Medical examiner: Upper lip.
Smith: Ah, there it is.
Smith: One shot straight through the upper lip into his brain.
An hour in, Smith talks to the women who flagged officers down, she’s the victims cousin.
Smith: Tell me, what happened to him?
Woman: well um..
(She says that they were hanging at her place with a friend, Tamera.)
Smith: who is she
Woman: Tamera Coleman.
Woman: We was drinkin’ & everything was cool, then.. we made a joke like Los broke or whatever.
(She claims the victim got angry and hit Tamera)
Women: Tamera was like “Los, you don’t put your hand on me, I got someone for you”
(She claims Tamera called someone and told them to “take care” of the victim)
Woman: she kept on screamin’ they was gonna come over and beat my cousin up.
(Then she claims Tamera turned on her)
Woman: I was like “now you wanna fight me!?”
(They started fighting and it spilled outside, moments later, a man showed up)
Smith: then what happened, what did he do?
Woman: I don’t know cause me and Tamera was still up there arguing
( she claims she was too busy fighting to get a good look at the shooter)
Smith: now your gonna tell me you don’t know, you know everything up until the end, but you don’t know what happened after that.
Woman: I never seen that guy go in or outside my house.
Smith: Don’t tell me what you didn’t see, tell me what you saw!
Smith: Somebody shot your cousin and killed him and you know who shot him and you won’t tell me.
Woman: we was still on the corner fighting.
Smith: so somebody shot your cousin so who did it! You know who shot him.
Woman: no
Smith: I’m not sure what to do with you.
Smith: I don’t know why she won’t cooperate, it’s her cousin. She knows Tamera called someone, she knows a guy came over there but she doesn’t know anything after that, I don’t buy it.
Smith: I don’t know how your conscience is gonna be with you for the rest of your life if we don’t solve this and you never tell me who you saw shoot your cousin and kill him, you ready to tell me what I need to know?
Woman: the man who was walking down the street.
Smith: walking down the street towards your house!?
Woman: yes. He looked like he had something over his shirt or whatever.
(She claims she didn’t see anything else but says Tamera would know, she gives a possible address for Tamera)
They find Tamera at a vacant apartment and bring her to Homicide for question, she admits to fighting the victim and his cousin, but denies calling anyone and claims that Los was still alive she left. However..
They catch her on surveillance making a phone call to someone where she confesses to calling the suspect, she’s booked for manslaughter. Two hours later she wants to talk again.
This time she admits to calling the suspect named Ed but still denies seeing the murder but guarantees it was Ed who she identifies as Ed Johnson. 26-year-old Edwardlee Johnson has numerous convictions including robbery, assault and concealed carry.
Smith: Ed went over with a gun, he intended to do some damage, he’s considered armed and extremely dangerous. We need to find this guy and take ‘em down.
For the next few days, the fugitive task force hits several locations looking for Johnson, but as the first 48 runs out, Johnson is nowhere to be found.
Summary: In the First 48, Cleveland Detectives responded to the murder of a man named “Los”, discovered he had gotten into a fight with a friend who called the suspect to the seen, identified the suspect as Edwardlee Johnson, searched for Johnson but have been unable to find him.
10 days into the investigation, Johnson turns himself in with his attorney.
Smith:He’s been through the system quite a few times, he knows how to maneuver his way around, I really don’t expect a whole lot out of this guy.
Interview with the suspect:
Smith: Ok, I’m Detective Smith from the Homicide unit.
Smith: would you like to talk to me or would you like to have your attorney?
-------------------------------------------
Johnson: Attorney, sir.
Smith: he’s not talking, I’ll precede with the case as is.
Smith: I didn’t see any signs of remorse in Edwards eyes.
Smith: He gets a phone call, gets the gun, and goes to the scene and kills the victim, this guy’s a stone-cold killer. Tamera may not have intended for him to kill the victim but the facts are that the phone call is the reason why the victim is dead.
Edwardlee Johnson was subsequently found guilty of murder. He was sentenced to 25 years to life.
Tamera Coleman plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and received a mandatory 3 year sentence
i read a theory that the ending was just quasimodo’s imagination and that’s why there’s no lava and everyone likes him because in the original tale he starved himself to death sitting beside Esmereldas body
Close to the actual story. Shes actually hung, Quasi kills Frollo and then starves himself to death at Esmeraldas grave.
And Cinderella's step sister have their eyes pecked out. Ariel turns into seafoam when she refuses to kill her prince to live since he married someone else. Snow White forced her step mother to dance in hot iron shoes until death. Sleeping beauty is about a king who breaks into a sleeping womans home and gives her twins........ Then leaves with her still unconscious.
Pretty sure disney cant make money on those kinds of stories. The real fairy tales are far darker and more horrific. Most of them ironically written by the brothers grim
@@SuperNovaArtz Most of H.C. Andrsen stories are extremely depressing and sad(Ariel for example or Little Mermaid as the story is known).
damn
@@SuperNovaArtz Hanged
“The music in this movie sucks”
Me: SAY THAT TO MY FACE YOU LIMP NOODLE!”
@Dora Stephania Campoverde Just disappointed you can’t use GIFs in TH-cam comments.
Mildly indignant that there's no sin off for Hellfire, considering how dark and mature the subject matter is and how ballsy it is to have in a kid's video.
You probably meant "since it's the best Disney song ever written". But it's ok I got that from what you wrote.
Dude, its disney. Of course theres a shitload of dark & adult stuff in the disney films but of course no ones so much as bad an eye at it because everyones all its a cartoon so no biggie right?
Should have been a sin off for the final note sang in the intro song, too. That dude hitting that note in full voice is absurd. Such great music in this film.
video.
@@Aloyus_Knight Yes, but ya know 150% that The Hunchback would absolutely NOT fly had it been released today
How did I miss you ripping on my favorite movie??
Okay. I know this is all satire, but the fact that you said the music sucks is mind boggling to me. This score by Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz is phenomenal! And arguably one of the best Disney soundtracks of all time!
I'm sorry, the music "sucks?" This is regarded as one of Alan Menkan's absolute best scores, and it only gets better in the stage adaptation. I'll agree that the presentation in the film (and even a bit in the play) is a bit messy, but the music is phenomenal.
Hopefully he was joking when he was saying “the music sucks”, if he wasn’t, then he just doesn’t know what good music is.
@@LordBummenbachsBalls I couldn't agree more ! The music in this movie is probably the best of Alan Menken's career and that's saying something !
@@LordBummenbachsBalls or you know.. people have different tastes
Thank you. Looking back at how this channel treats musicals, I can hardly say that I'm surprised, but it's still an incredibly uninformed judgement.
@@tunderdiamant8651 exactly, I swear to god people believe their taste is the only right one in the world, its bloody annoying.
how does someone bring up the topic of thirsty Disney songs without mentioning "Can You Feel The Love Tonight”?
Or kiss the girl
I think the difference there is that those songs weren’t sung by the character in question, like those were more like “you know you wanna be with them, do it” while he was singing the song himself, saying his OWN desires so I can see why it would be more thirsty than some others XD
By trying to be funny by not mentioning that one..? I thought it was pretty hilarious how he spoke the titles of all BUT the most horniest ones.
Hellfire is a much better bad-guy-has-the-hots-for-female-character than Love is an Open Door.
This Disney movie was a musical masterpiece in my mind. Everytime i hear the opening it gives me the same goosebumps I get from the Lion King.
I’m 100% convinced that the gargoyles were supposed to be in Quasimodo’s head, but near the end of production some executive went, “Nah, kids won’t get it. Just make ‘em real for no reason.”
“Lava pouring things are weird to build into a church” Nope, actually quite common for churches, castles, and any tall stone building that might be seiged or attacked. It’s specifically to pour hot tar on intruders in the exact way shown in the movie.
"The music sucks."
... sin yourself for that one there, Jer.
It's like he's slapping the amazingly talented Stephen Schwartz in the face
I sinned this video, and gave him 100 sins for that. Here’s a link: m.th-cam.com/video/W1BKdP0mgT0/w-d-xo.html
Frollo was honestly the best part of this whole movie not gonna lie
Best villains ever.
Facts. Hands down the best villain.
Shaffrillas certainly agrees
James Woods´s Hades will get yours location
Totally. I think on the whole HOND is a pretty weak movie and was the first step towards the decline of the Disney renaissance. However, it definitely has one of the strongest Disney villains/villain songs in the entire Disney catalogue.
Disturbing: The scene where Quasimodo has tomatoes thrown at him is a cleaned up version of him being whipped in the original novel, tomato juice standing in for blood.🍅🍅🍅🍅
Huh. Tasteful censorship
Too bad they didn’t would have been the best part of the movie aside from them editing the movie for him to just be dropped in the well and then just roll the credits like he should have been.
The "Im Free" bit is by far the most funny moment in disney history
Look like jafar as the old man in aladdin made a guest star appearance in this movie.
*I was waiting for a "1 sin off" at the Sanctuary! scene. Quasimodo holding Esmeralda over his head and yelling "Sanctuary" always gives me chills!*
This movie deserved more sins taken off, it's a masterpiece -and one of the darkest Disney films!
Agree
Entertaining video, but I think you got a few points wrong about certain scenes.
1. Frollo's not purposely being over the top. He's so wrapped in hypocrisy and racism that he honestly believes an imperfect baby spawned from another ethnic group is of Satan. What other animated Disney film ever had the spine to make the villain say, "This is an unholy demon!" or mention literally sending someone to Hell? A bit creepy and laying it on thick for a kids' movie, but as an adult, I can certainly appreciate this insight into how dark this character is going to be throughout the film.
2. The talking gargoyles aren't magic. Quasi imagines that they can speak so he doesn't feel so alone. As for their movement and lines when they aren’t in Quasi’s presence, he imagines they have hobbies and side conversations when he’s not around. Authors do it all the time with their fictional characters. Quasi just never got around to writing his imagined gargoyle characterizations.
3. Disney needed the gargoyles for comedy. Otherwise, it would be too dark to keep children entertained for over an hour. Besides, you forget that gargoyles were meant to frighten evil spirits. The antics of these three keep the dark spirit of Frollo from tainting every last scene of this movie. They are humorous hope in what would otherwise be an animated documentary about oppression. Job well done, guys.
4. Clopin tells us what Frollo is getting out of keeping Quasi around. "And for one time in his life of power and control..." What better power and control than an enslaved person who delights in catering to your every whim and telling you how great you are?
5. The movie is supposed to make you a little mistrustful. In Christianity, there are hypocritic leaders like Frollo and leaders who try to do the right thing like the Archdeacon. There are some who misuse religious beliefs as an excuse to harm others (again, like Frollo) and others who genuinely want to serve their deity of choice by having compassion for their fellow man (like Esmeralada). No, it's not just in Christianity; it happens in other faiths too. The point is that someone is neither automatically good nor automatically bad as a person based on what religion they claim to follow, so judging someone based solely on religious beliefs is pointless at best.
6. Quasi's been in the cathedral for 20 years, during which he has no doubt gotten bored and tried a few short climbs. Even if not, he has obviously gained strength from years of ringing the bells, so he is confident in his ability to support his own weight by his arms.
7. This movie is supposed to be offensive. If you hate (or at least have a certain lack of respect for) an entire race, you don't call them the proper word for their ethnic group; you call them the local offensive term. Thus, the people of Paris will say "gypsies" instead of "Romani."
8. Everyone apparently knows the legend of the bell ringer of Notre Dame. (Think of the first scene here.) So who could that hideous guy be that no one has seen before, the one with the hunch? Must be the legendary bell ringer among us at last.
9. Sin should be taken off for “God Help the Outcasts.” Say what you want about the timing; the song is beautiful.
10. Sin should be removed for the way “Heaven’s Light” transitions into “Hellfire.” The stark contrast of the two songs should make the transition impossible, but no. Furthermore, they seem to be happening simultaneously and are about reactions to the same event, thus giving an insight into the souls of each of the two characters. Quasi’s reaction to strong emotion is to believe he feels the light of Heaven, whereas Frollo’s is to feel as if he’s burning in Hell. Thus, despite years of abuse, Quasi seems to have developed a good heart and not turned out like his captor.
11. Another sin off for the relation of the Latin and English lyrics of “Hellfire.” The Latin lyrics are about confessing sin, and Frollo really goes for the concept. However, during the part where the monks are saying their sin is their own fault; Frollo denies being at fault for his own sins. At that point, the Latin prayer ends, as if even God cannot save Frollo from the powers of Hell now. The Latin choir does, however, return at the end to plead for the Lord to have mercy. Is this because Frollo is asking for God’s mercy at this time as well, or are they praying that God has mercy on them because Frollo has just vowed to destroy the entire city, or are they praying that God will save them from ending up so clearly fallen from grace like Frollo is now?
12. Frollo is also appealing to the patron saint of women, children, and the poor for permission to do something despicable to an impoverished teenage girl, and he still believes his prayers should be answered because of how righteous he is.
13. The croissant line actually fits. The gargoyles are trying to make him feel better by pointing out his good qualities, but since they’re the comedy relief of this movie as opposed to the dashing prince of other movies, their attempts are well intentioned but botched. They mean well, but yes, they’re going to say stupid lines because that’s how comedy relief characters work.
14. Of course they’re going to hang the spies. That’s typically what people have done with spies throughout history. What did you want them to do, serve them muffins and tea?
15. Sin should be off for Frollo’s death. His last words are “And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!” In what can only be considered divine intervention, Frollo’s foothold crumbles, plunging him toward the molten metal and bonfire mixture on the ground, i.e. he pronounced his own sentence, and God has judged him wicked, not righteous as Frollo believed himself to be. This literal falling into fire would also imply that Frollo is going to spend eternity in Hell, as he feared in his song.
16. I should have said it earlier. There should be a sin removed for the intricate details of animation in this film. Just look at the carving around the church doors, for example.
Underrated comment right here.
@@elfchild9 Thanks. You're too kind.
Wow. It’s amazing to go back to old films you watched when you were a kid to see all the hidden messages in the film you didn’t see before. Great analysis👏
@@sheridandy Thanks. I was bored.
Yes, yes to all of this. I was so disappointed to see no sin removed for that epic shot of Quasi holding Esmerelda overhead in front of the window: it’s such an extraordinary shot, and an extraordinary moment in general.
i think Hellfire was worth a sin (maybe even 5 sins) off as Disney's ballsiest song plus the creative way the latin phrases and imagery display his inner conscious. also its a good song.
Especially banging in the Japanese version for some reason!
I can’t believe, after all the “he survives this” and “terrible aim” sins we’ve gotten, an arrow actually hitting it’s target for once is still sinned!
He and his crew do not care about actual sins, remember when this channel pointed actual errors like a character being out of place in a different shot or a prop not being there or lemgitmate plot holes
Okay, but how did the guards not hit the horse? That was like 50 to 100 arrows being shot, and I could have sworn that one of then nearly hit the horse.
@@osmanyousif7849 I know, right? Playing a Legend of Zelda game, I sometimes hit horses, and my aim is terrible! (Now that I think about it, that's probably the reason I hit the horses.)
There's stormtrooper aim and then there's unrealistic marksmanship.
The sin wasn't for hitting the rider, it was for NOT hitting the horse AND hitting the rider despite launching an entire volley of shots.
"The music in this movie sucks."
I mean I knew this channel was going downhill, but acting like "Out There", "God Help The Outcasts", and "Hellfire" aren't absolute CLASSICS is mind-blowing!
And the opening music to Quasi's hunchbackstory
@@bessieburnet9816 Yooooo yes "Bells of Notre Dame" SLAPS~
Don't forget Someday at the end credits and Topsy Turvy song (I play the song every year on April Fools).
@@TheMedievalMassacre FACTS
what do yo mean going down hill?
"The music in this movie sucks"
Everyone: *"Are you sure about that?"*
"...he legitimately thinks he's an otherwise sinless person." Yeah, yup. No kidding. That's kind of the whole point of the morally-corrupt religious figure antagonist, my guy.
fr is he gonna be like "Thanos wants to kill half the population of the universe. *DING*" Like yeah?? That's the point?? How is that a sin???
He didn't think that at all. He knew he was sinful, but he was good at lying to himself. The statues at the beginning demonstrated his fear of damnation. Also, he seemed to be more of a government leader than a church leader. He had that bishop keeping him in check for half the movie.
To further your point, Clopin does straight say in his opening song “frollo saw corruption everywhere except within” and the only time he actually feared for his soul was when the archdeacon pointed out he had just killed a person on the steps of a church
He's a judge, not a government leader. He thinks he's better than everyone
@@dixiecronin7791 Judge is a type of government leader, isn't it? They lead and sometimes decide the result of trials.
he literally sinned Frollo for seeing himself as free of sin and being manipulative like bro that's the point. next you're gonna sin Megatron because he wants to destroy the autobots or some shit
The only sin about The Hunchback of Notre Dame is how underrated it is! I'm willing to die on this hill when I say it's golden age Disney's best movie.
Definitely. I'd say this one and Tarzan are the most underrated movies of the Disney Renaissance era.
Him: the music in this movie sucks
Me: *So you have chosen death?*
was just about to comment this
I couldn’t believe I just heard that. Debatably this is some of the best music in a Disney animated movie ever
Came into the comment section for this. All sins have been removed for that misevaluation
Holy shit I wasn't expecting so many likes! Thank you all
This is also the channel that hated o Dr. Facilier. What did you expect?
The music sucks
Hellfire and The Bells of Notre dame: don't worry he's unfamiliar with music
Jeremy: The music is bad
Everyone within a 500 mile radius: **activate instant kill**
CinemaSins: "The music in this movie sucks!"
TH-cam: This means war!!!
Why do I keep finding you on random places lol
I fully expected him to take sins off for hellfire, and then he comes at us with “the music in this movie sucks” dude just wants to fight
@@WhitePythor Because I'm cool
I think you meant to say, "So you have chosen death."
You know how comments make videos more popular? That may contribute to his dubious decisions. Also, let's not forget he needed to add one at the end for the stone face flop.
Unlike beauty and the beast, this movie is actually an amazing example of gaslighting Stockholm syndrome. The way he loves Frollo unconditionally, trusts him, etc. The other good example of it is Tangled with mother gothel
Speakimg of beauty and the beast belle also made a guest apperance.
Whe I watched it, I saw the similarity to Tangled
Everyone: *commenting about their fury over various sins, boosting the video for the algorithm in the process*
CinemaSins: you have activated my trap card
Yeah I really think he said these things just to boost his algorithm, I mean first he said this movie’s music sucks when it’s loved by a LOT of people, then he proceeded to say that it’s worse than Phantom, one of the most popular musicals out there, so this was bound to get people riled up
"This music sucks"
Excuse the fuck outta me? This has the best songs in any Disney movie ever! Past, present and possible future!
wrong! i'm still here from Treasure Planet is the best song in any Disney movie
@@flutterguy2258 Pony found, once again. Yes.. this is turning out to be a great year.
"The music in this movie sucks!"
*monocles pop off in indignation*
Why i do say my good sir, our dear Jeremy must have hearing loss
If you have more than one monocle, you're monocling wrong
Totally agree!
However, "That's my third monocle this week. I simply must stop being so horrified."
I’m glad everyone loves the music in this movie.
CS: “The music in this sucks, it’s worse than Phantom”
Me: *looks at the dislike button*
Phantom is perfect
What dislike button?
Don’t just look at it, click it
"The horniest song in animated Disney history"
I think he forgot about "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" in The Lion King.
And "Kiss the girl" maybe
Omg yes! After the bedroom eyes part of the song They literally bang after that said song ended
I need to address the whole “gargoyles being alive” thing. No they are not actually alive, but they are to Quasi. He is so lonely that he makes up his friends in his mind. The only person he has interacted with for the first 20 yrs of his life is Frollo so he’s going to be lonely.
This is actually up for debate. There are no official sources that say either is true, so it's up to audience interpretation. Cases can be made for both sides.
@@bandotaku Actually, it isn't. The gargoyles literally fight the soldiers at the end.
@@ninclow5421 I'm just saying people debate it, not whether one side is right or wrong.
@@bandotaku Ah, right. My bad, I must have misinterpreted what you meant, then. My bad. ^^'
kinda dark, which makes it cool!!!!
You're calling Frollo cartoonishly evil when:
a) He's one of the most realistic Disney villains, which makes him so scary.
b) This is a cartoon.
Frollo was the only character marginally accurate to the book.
This is a cartoon, so why does it matter?
@@duranduran1912 good job. You got the point
Right like this is fairly accurate representation of corrupt church/political figure in that century.
@@17emmarose Still is minus the killings.
"Who hates gypsies?"
Oh, Jeremy, youhave obviously never been to Middle and Eastern Europe...
Or, I mean, heard of the holocaust, apparently. Hundreds of thousands of Romani people were killed by the nazis.
Or Italy
heck, I'm from spain and they are a bit hated here too
What did they do wrong? They're just people with different customs and stuff.
@@cintronproductions9430 Exactly
Anyone else always see the gargoyles as just statues? A manifestation of Quasimodo’s loneliness and inner dialogue. Even at the end when they’re fighting, it was always just him.
Exactly I don’t think they were real at all although they were pretty annoying
Things wrong with this movie:
1) The Gargoyle song.
That´s it.
Yeah no shit
That plus the gargoyle's and pretty much everything that has to do with them, yes.
I liked in the musical that they make it clear that the statutes (which are the saints... FAR better and more appropriate) act more as his inner monologue to help him combat his loneliness and reconcile his faith with the horrors frollo commits. I really hope the musical is made into a movie.
Reilly thought, What's sad about it is that almost all of it could be forgiven if they made it clear the gargoyles were only figment of his imagination and not actually living things that can interact with the environment.
Even the writer of the movie dislikes it😂
"I'd give every sin back in every movie if he threw her over the railing right now like a wrestling move" actually made me cackle out loud. However, the music in this movie is excellent and it's weirdly one of my favorite disney movies that I'm sure has nothing to do with being raised catholic and all the guilt that comes with that.... hahaha
wait, why would you feel guilty?
@@jessicamacaulay7462 Some communities really push on the "good loves you" bit, others focus on the "being good to others" bit or the "loved ones never truly leave" bit. But quite a few (a rather disturbing amount when you look at it thinking they're just a few small cults but realize you probably know people like this) really, really focus on "you're born wicked and disgusting, every feeling other than devotion pushes you to further to sin and the only thing between you and the eternal, unimaginable suffering that you deserve for being you is unconditional devotion to the church, I mean to God".
@@Zancibar ... Ok, I appreciate you taking the time to type that out, but still am missing what that has to do with the movie? What I got, is the original commenter feels guilty about this having been their fav movie, and they were raised Catholic, but... the one actual Catholic in this movie (the priest) was against Frollo, so... I'm still confused
@@jessicamacaulay7462 Guilt is not necessarilly rational. And it's intrusive, it sticks to everything until you can't recognize feelings when they're not covered in guilt. Probably not the case and I'm also misunderstanding but the point is that when you're raised in guilt (or any negative emotion for that matter) it becomes really easy to trigger and I believe that's the joke, that this movie with heavy religious themes is his favorite, definitely nothing to do with being raised to adore catholic mythos. It could also be an alusion of losing their faith and still struggling with guilt so they praise this movie who portrays faith in a (cuasi-) good light while being a good movie. I'm getting a bit too deep with the psychoanalisis, sorry, but that's kind of the joke as far as I got it.
@@jessicamacaulay7462 Also our comments are getting longer. XD
I love when the sins tunr from "i'm being nitpicky for fun" to "i literally don't understand how the medium works, or am pretending not to"
@Márk Hegedus Exactly lol
"i would remove evry sin from every movie ever if he threw her over the balcony right now like a wrestling movie!"
....i'm going to guess he doesn't know how the original source material goes
do tell
Do tell too.
original; for those who don't know, in the original source material, the haunchbacker actually kills her and dies by her side due to grieving
edit; so turns out my french teacher lied to me, but that's besides the point.
Esmeralda does die in the original, just not by Quasimodo's hand. (sorry that i was misinformed)
and it's believed that Quasimodo finds her body and dies emvracing it (? from what i understood)
thank for correcting me
credit for the actual info goes to: ShakespeardOfBorg who replied to my misinfomred self
@@kefiexe nope. In the book Esmeralda is hanged and her body dumped with all the other disgraced copses. Quasimodo finds her body and it's assumed he dies embracing it as that's how their skeletons are found years later.
@@ShakespeareOfBorg And he throws Frollo off of Notre Dame after he sees him laughing at Esmerelda's execution. Note that in the book, he's the Archdeacon, not the Minister for Justice.
Frollo didn’t keep Quasimodo because he thought Quasi would be useful to him. The priest convinced Frollo he would go to hell if he killed the baby and that raising him would absolve Frollo of the sin from killing his mother on the steps on the church. So, either way, Frollo is only interested in himself but for different reasons
Jeremy: "The music in the movie sucks"
Me: "You talkin' mad stuff for someone within crusading distance!"
CinemaSins guy: “The music in this movie sucks..”
use me as a SIN button to that comment
35.
Let's just hope he was joking...
The only song in the movie that sucks is a guy like you, the rest of them are either ok or great.
𝚆𝚑𝚎𝚗 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚐𝚎𝚝 𝚖𝚘𝚛𝚎 𝚜𝚒𝚗𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚖𝚘𝚟𝚒𝚎
@Christian Niekamp fair enough
this is probably the most underrated Disney movie ever.
That's what I wa as about to say it's such a good movie
Treasure planet would like to have a word with you (though Hunchback probably is one of the less popular)
Duuude word 👌🏻
@@randallgochuico1529 tbh emperors new groove is probably more underrated
@@Meatloaf_TV there’s a running list going between the less popular movies. Example brother bear
"The music in this movie sucks."
**looks at UNSUBSCRIBE button, eye twitching, together with the rest of the crowd**
“The music is this movie sucks.”
Everyone: Say sike right now!
To be fair, Jeremy also said the music in Princess and the Frog is bland and forgettable (along with saying *_Keith David_* has the worst voice), and he also hates Emperor's New Groove. So he just has terrible taste
@@patrickmcgregor5168 no, he just has a different taste compared to you lot
@@hellishcatt Well yes clearly. It is also apparent that it is trash.
@@hellishcatt him saying Keith David has the worst voice is down right insulting and reprehensible. It’s one of the worst things he’s ever said about any movie on any of his videos ever. He has shitty taste if he actually think that.
"The music sucks"
Me: _intensely looks at unsuscribe button_
Why sub in the first place
@@cringeygachakidthatalsodoe7154 cause it used to be a lot more fun :c
@@tiffcat3887 I liked the twilight vids, but for the other vids half the stuff the sin is just things that are resolved in the movie if they actually paid attentiom
The transition from sins to wins is the path to greatness
Do it. Click the unsubscribe button. :P
Not all traditionally named "gypsies" were Romani. It's actually offensive to the non-Romani gypsies to be lumped in with the Romani, who were often their enemies and oppressors. This is one of those "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" moments.
CS: the music sucks
Me: so you woke and chose violence today.
I demand 10 sins off for the music, 5 belonging to hellfire alone. I’ve never heard such blasphemy in my life
Hellfire was the only good song, and I agree it should have forgiven 5 sins, although his face flop on stone at the end deserved another sin.
8:59 Did... did you just say the music SUCKS!? How dare you!
Hellfire: am I a joke to you?
Fr is this man high everything else I'll slightly agree with but this nah
Hellfire is literally the perfect song, too bad the studio dosent make music like that any more
@@proxidize5738 to bad Disney became a greedy Arasaka/Umbrella hybrid I can't stand those idiots anymore
Quasi yeets Esmeralda off the roof, stunned silence from the crowd, fade to black, 'Fin'.
“This music sucks”
Everyone, agreeing that “Hellfire” is the best Disney villain song: wait a damn minute
Yes absolutely. It beats out "Be Prepared" because this is pure emotional torment which I think adds a level of humanity for Frollo. Without this he is the single worst villain imaginable. Scar on the other hand has already shown his soft side (when his song comes around) and we don't need to see it in his song.
@@mike80sfan I totally agree. Be Prepared is my all time favourite Disney song, but it doesn’t hold a candle to Hellfire. Hellfire is a masterpiece.
the ONLY SONG in this movie that is terrible is A Guy Like You, the rest are *masterpieces*
Especially Hellfire... That hypocrite can sing
The best part is it's not even in the stage musical version, and replaced by the much better "Tavern Song"
@@pd23 not to mention the absolutely excellent addition of “Made of Stone”
Exactly!
Coming up on The First 48, an argument among friends spins out of control when one of them makes a deadly decision.
Cleveland, Ohio, just before dawn, in the working class neighborhood of North Collinwood, a woman flags down a patrol unit.
Phone call:
911 operator: 34, go ahead with the info
Police officer: we have a male that’s down.
Police officer: I believe he’s shot.
Police officer: He’s not breathing.
When paramedics respond, they find a man on the front porch, dead. Detective Melvin Smith moved from Mississippi to Cleveland as a teen, he will be the lead. The victim, known in the neighborhood as ‘Los’, is a 39-year-old Cleveland native, he was living with his cousin at the house where he was killed.
Scene investigation:
Smith: His shirt is ripped.
Smith: He was involved in a physical fight.
Medical examiner: That, there’s the entrance.
Detective Leto Sandavol: Upper lip?
Medical examiner: Upper lip.
Smith: Ah, there it is.
Smith: One shot straight through the upper lip into his brain.
An hour in, Smith talks to the women who flagged officers down, she’s the victims cousin.
Smith: Tell me, what happened to him?
Woman: well um..
(She says that they were hanging at her place with a friend, Tamera.)
Smith: who is she
Woman: Tamera Coleman.
Woman: We was drinkin’ & everything was cool, then.. we made a joke like Los broke or whatever.
(She claims the victim got angry and hit Tamera)
Women: Tamera was like “Los, you don’t put your hand on me, I got someone for you”
(She claims Tamera called someone and told them to “take care” of the victim)
Woman: she kept on screamin’ they was gonna come over and beat my cousin up.
(Then she claims Tamera turned on her)
Woman: I was like “now you wanna fight me!?”
(They started fighting and it spilled outside, moments later, a man showed up)
Smith: then what happened, what did he do?
Woman: I don’t know cause me and Tamera was still up there arguing
( she claims she was too busy fighting to get a good look at the shooter)
Smith: now your gonna tell me you don’t know, you know everything up until the end, but you don’t know what happened after that.
Woman: I never seen that guy go in or outside my house.
Smith: Don’t tell me what you didn’t see, tell me what you saw!
Smith: Somebody shot your cousin and killed him and you know who shot him and you won’t tell me.
Woman: we was still on the corner fighting.
Smith: so somebody shot your cousin so who did it! You know who shot him.
Woman: no
Smith: I’m not sure what to do with you.
Smith: I don’t know why she won’t cooperate, it’s her cousin. She knows Tamera called someone, she knows a guy came over there but she doesn’t know anything after that, I don’t buy it.
Smith: I don’t know how your conscience is gonna be with you for the rest of your life if we don’t solve this and you never tell me who you saw shoot your cousin and kill him, you ready to tell me what I need to know?
Woman: the man who was walking down the street.
Smith: walking down the street towards your house!?
Woman: yes. He looked like he had something over his shirt or whatever.
(She claims she didn’t see anything else but says Tamera would know, she gives a possible address for Tamera)
They find Tamera at a vacant apartment and bring her to Homicide for question, she admits to fighting the victim and his cousin, but denies calling anyone and claims that Los was still alive she left. However..
They catch her on surveillance making a phone call to someone where she confesses to calling the suspect, she’s booked for manslaughter. Two hours later she wants to talk again.
This time she admits to calling the suspect named Ed but still denies seeing the murder but guarantees it was Ed who she identifies as Ed Johnson. 26-year-old Edwardlee Johnson has numerous convictions including robbery, assault and concealed carry.
Smith: Ed went over with a gun, he intended to do some damage, he’s considered armed and extremely dangerous. We need to find this guy and take ‘em down.
For the next few days, the fugitive task force hits several locations looking for Johnson, but as the first 48 runs out, Johnson is nowhere to be found.
Summary: In the First 48, Cleveland Detectives responded to the murder of a man named “Los”, discovered he had gotten into a fight with a friend who called the suspect to the seen, identified the suspect as Edwardlee Johnson, searched for Johnson but have been unable to find him.
10 days into the investigation, Johnson turns himself in with his attorney.
Smith:He’s been through the system quite a few times, he knows how to maneuver his way around, I really don’t expect a whole lot out of this guy.
Interview with the suspect:
Smith: Ok, I’m Detective Smith from the Homicide unit.
Smith: would you like to talk to me or would you like to have your attorney?
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Johnson: Attorney, sir.
Smith: he’s not talking, I’ll precede with the case as is.
Smith: I didn’t see any signs of remorse in Edwards eyes.
Smith: He gets a phone call, gets the gun, and goes to the scene and kills the victim, this guy’s a stone-cold killer. Tamera may not have intended for him to kill the victim but the facts are that the phone call is the reason why the victim is dead.
Edwardlee Johnson was subsequently found guilty of murder. He was sentenced to 25 years to life.
Tamera Coleman plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and received a mandatory 3 year sentence
The creators later confirmed that the gargoyles are from Quasis fractured mind from being alone and degraded for years
“The music in this movie sucks” I’m sorry...but...do you like any Disney music? This music is up there with the lion king.
This is better than Lion King. Lol
I hate all Disney music
Disney musik sucks Always.
@@microphonejacket come at me bro
@@sarahmurabito9391 Fight me! IRL! Lol
"These are the judgiest sculptures to ever have been sculpted!"
Well, it is a catholic cathedral, that's for sure
It's also a pretty obvious metaphor for Frollo's guilt, not the actual statue construction.
it’s weird how that moment played as I was reading this
Yup, they were meant to be looking down on people. However, someone pointed out you can see the eyes literally move to look down at Frollo. It is a very subtle animation so you have to look for it.
ahahaha
@@lacrimosaknight yeah
Im saying i prefer united Methodist which is chill
Well my church says EVERYONE is loved
Sin 28 about the "What does Frollo get out of Quasimoto" bit. It's stated in the intro song. Frollo gets "redemtion" for killing his mother as he is worried for his immortal soul at that moment in time. The one day use thing is just a potiental perk that he states, but clearly doesn't know it will be useful.
You should’ve taken off a sin for Tony Jay’s commanding vocal performance as Frollo. His voice is unmistakable.
No offense to Tony Jay, but to me Frollo's voice was more or less a discount Jeremy Irons
Just what I was thinking, that performance is phenomenal (well, it is Tony Jay, so of course it’s gonna be good).
“The music in this movie sucks.”
You sir have no taste
Really stupid too since he gave credit for Hercules for its Greek Corus, even though it’s really corny and lame. Everyone can have different tastes in music, but shitting on something just because it didn’t connect with you is total horseshit
"The music in this movie sucks"
Thomas had never seen such bullshit before
“That’s racist.” - explains a huge part of the theme of the whole movie.
Amen
@Cockjugglingthundercunt III Accountdeletedbyyoutube Because he's supposed to be Romani - the book makes it make a bit more sense. However, I think they mean Esmeralda, Clopin, and the other Romanis with this comment.
@Cockjugglingthundercunt III Accountdeletedbyyoutube True. But it was considered back then. Most of the Romani shown here have tannish skin (likely from living constantly in the streets and thus in the sun). So you belonged to a different "race" if you weren't "white French". Look how Hitler treated the Jews. He defined them as a race rather than a religious faith.
@Cockjugglingthundercunt III Accountdeletedbyyoutube Knowing CinemaSins, they'd still describe it at that
The reach
“I am a pious man. No temptation can stray me from the path of God.”
“Lord Frollo, there’s an extra thiccq Gypsy girl outside with no shoes on.”
“😈”
"The music in this movie sucks..."
You better say sike RIGHT NOW
“The music in the movie sucks”
Say sike right now
Yeah, I get chills every time the intro song plays. It’s amazing. And don’t get me started on hellfire
Push it, Kim! Pusg it!!
*pst listen to the theatrical musical album its even better*
4:50 "Who hates gypsies?" The entirety of Easter Europe raises their hands
Yes. I honestly find it quite tone-deaf of him to call this "cartoonishly evil" when that is exactly how Romani people were actually treated in a lot of places for a lot of history, and in some places still today.
Yeah, I live in Northern Ireland and people are so horrible to Travellers here too
Our exchange student would not stop talking about how one atole her rabbit and they steal all her countrys iron
"The music in this movie sucks."
Me about to click the dislike button: I know what I must do but I don't know If I have the strength to do it.
I did it. Be with me. JOIN ME.
I love how many times he sins the literal point of the scene he’s sinning
“That’s racist” THATS THE POINT!!
LittleLesbian Exactly! But, then again, Jeremy had to have an excuse to say one of his stupid catchphrases.
@Yay Yay I think that's xenophobia as well
That's.. that's the joke. Some of y'all who watch his videos really don't understand his shtick
"The music in this sucks"
Guess who will be crying for sanctuary now, Jeremy?
The comment section never disappoints.
"The music sucks"
And so tables where thrown all over the world from raging fans, resulting in tree deficiency and overworked woodworkers... Damn you Sinemasins, you're contributing to the environmental hazards..
I nearly choked on my drink when I heard him say that 😂 if I could I would have flipped my table 😂
@@17emmarose Haha same here, I thought "Hey, he gotta be jokin", but didn't sound like it. I wanted to flip lots of tables xD
"This music sucks!"
Me: "dials number" Hey Birdman....Jeremy's at it again. Do your thing...
Yes, please do it, Birdman!
I third that!
Fourth it!
thats pretty cringe
Character in a movie just breaths
Cinema sins: I diagnose you with sin
Can't wait for Disney to botch the live-action version of this movie...
Grow up.
I like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin (except for Jafar he sucks), loved Jungle Book but absolutely hated The Lion King (the original is my favorite movie of all time because of the impact it had on my childhood, that should put it in perspective) and Mulan ! Cinderella and Dumbo I haven't seen but they don't seem like they're as good as the originals (from what I heard Dumbo isn't even close - the kids's performances apparently are so wooden) ! That's where I stand on it so far - even though I like some of them they don't capture the magic of the originals so Disney has to either make them consistently good or just stop making them !
@@thiagoteixeira6537 It's because your 30 years old and you can't be 7 again. And it's not for you, it;s for the kids of today.
Well, if I had to take a guess, based on how the remakes of Dumbo, Lion King and Mulan turned out, I'd say the movie will be almost three hours, though half of that time will add absolutely nothing to the overall plot. Furthermore, they'll probably treat the hunchback as a secret descendant of a race of gods, or whatever they want to do to double down on what they added in the Aladdin remake.
@@godzillavkk I'm actually 20 and these movies are not just for kids ! Everyone enjoys them (just like the the original animated ones) ! This saying that animated movies are "just for kids" is the stupidest thing I ever heard and needs to go away, especially when these are Live Action movies ! So many adults go to Disneyland and World because they simply want to ! This argument is SO weak bro ! We should be able to enjoy these as well !