I think flutter team needs to build desktop widgets in Chicago design for developer adoption, developers will never create each input widget for desktop!
I know it's an "older" design language but would love to see Chicago Design (or something similar) released as a package! Would be great for renovating legacy apps for people who still find the modern design languages of Windows and Apple to be jarring. It would make the work necessary to replace those designs with modern layouts even easier too as the generational software gap becomes wider.
I would love to see Win95 widgets replicated perfectly. Such an elegant design. I really don't like the modern trend to make everything like a mobile app.
We need something like headless-ui for Flutter that has all the accessibility, focus, mouse/keyboard input handled & leaves us devs with just the styling
The ability to code each aspect of the layer is sweet! Control over code and the speed to do that is wonderful. Coding the same thing in JavaScript would be a headache.
Definitely, you can make it almost pixel perfect. It would start as fast also so the user would only suspect something if they opened task manager and looked at the CPU/GPU usage (which can go up a few 10% under heavy rendering, but then quickly settles down to 0% under idle, good!) and memory usage (sits around average 70 MB). Both of these are definitely tolerable considering that you get ALL common platforms.
How about support for multi monitor, where a single app can have multiple views, each view can be dragged onto different monitors (for example trading apps).
Eagerly waiting, but still think flutter isn't ready for desktop. I am trying to make a cross platform app , including desktop, but I am unable to find a plugin on playing audio on windows. I do know how to play audio in windows c++ , but am unable to find how to receive a string in windows side of things. If anyone knows that, please help me man🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Edit:- I do know how to work with Method Channels in Android and iOS(swift) side of things.
Flutter is ready for desktop, but the community isn't. Just like how it took around a year for packages to develop for mobile, then web, it will take some time for desktop. The flutter team has done their part, and its now time for us to do our part
@@ranth18 brother I need to write platform specific code for all platforms, I can do that , but I am unable to do that for desktop platforms. That is my problem
So someone is probably gonna make the widgets for windows, Mac and Linux. And when that happens we can actually make some desktop applications real fast
It was a Java Web Start app, and Java Web Start has been deprecated. As users upgrade their machines and reinstall Java, it's becoming a larger and larger headache to make sure they install the right (older) version of Java. But also, as a manager on the Flutter team, it was a fun project and a good excuse to switch to Flutter :-)
is there something wrong with the code on 8:38 and 8:41? if (slot == Slot.content) { ...} is duplicated thrice, shouldn't the latter two be corrected with if (slot == Slot.upButton){...} and if (slot == Slot.downButton){...} ?
Yep, good catch! The real source code uses a switch statement, but I changed it to an if/else for the talk because it took less space -- apparently I was a little overzealous with the copy/paste :-)
All this for a simple spinner. Better build desktop widgets instead of prompting people to use mobile widgets for desktop. It will easier and require less efforts to build desktop app. Or else, you will miss the main point of flutter which is designed to build apps easily and rapidly.
I have a better solution (There is something called Electronjs) that uses HTML CSS and Js easier more flexible ... I mean come on I just came striving to see better options and I was bombarded with this boiler code ... huge ass learning curve ... I mean seriously why things get harder :D
Why doesn't it work for me?. I add in the pubspec.yaml file the following code and in OUTPUT the error is published. dependencies: chicago: ^0.3.0-dev -- [chicago] flutter pub get Running "flutter pub get" in chicago... Error on line 32, column 3 of pubspec.yaml: A package may not list itself as a dependency. ╷ 32 │ chicago: ^0.3.0-dev │ ^^^^^^^ ╵ pub get failed (65; ╵) exit code 65
This is one of the best deep dive Flutter talks I've ever seen. Thanks a lot!
Thanks!
Great freamwork, Great community, Great videos!
WE LOVE YOU, FLUTTER TEAM!!!
I think flutter team needs to build desktop widgets in Chicago design for developer adoption, developers will never create each input widget for desktop!
More content like this, and by that I mean the flow of the video aswell.
I was thinking about how would i manage Material Design in desktop but BOOM here we get Chicago LOVE flutter love Future!
I think its very easy to do modern design (we have tons of packages to do those), creating pattern like this is really amazing
I know it's an "older" design language but would love to see Chicago Design (or something similar) released as a package! Would be great for renovating legacy apps for people who still find the modern design languages of Windows and Apple to be jarring. It would make the work necessary to replace those designs with modern layouts even easier too as the generational software gap becomes wider.
I would love to see Win95 widgets replicated perfectly. Such an elegant design. I really don't like the modern trend to make everything like a mobile app.
Looking forward, are there any friends to watch it together?
gottcha
Need more tutorials like this.
Will there be a library like material and Cupertino? I really hope so...
Dense bunch of information. Feels like something that needs time to be digested.
Suspiciously close to the Cloud, Dart and Full Stack Flutter AME session at I/O.
We need something like headless-ui for Flutter that has all the accessibility, focus, mouse/keyboard input handled & leaves us devs with just the styling
Can’t wait for some talented designers to start selling sleek UI themes
This is super awesome! Very nice video.
Yeah we spent 1 hour programming an
That's not the point of this video but ok
But the video is 16 minutes if rounded up.
The ability to code each aspect of the layer is sweet! Control over code and the speed to do that is wonderful. Coding the same thing in JavaScript would be a headache.
anyone interested in creating a repository where we will create a Material for Windows or Linux?
Hi Vladimiro. Yes im interested. But i am from database background. Would like to follow your lead if you help.
I am in
finally desktop app is ready,, yeahh
Best talk ever - Thank you so much!!!!
THis is an amazing talk and I love it.
Jaw dropping 😲
10/10, been modifying the win95 library so far might just redesign it
This widget set is what I wanted to see for desktop flutter.
I wonder if there are some modern and good-looking themes for desktop?
It looks like people are building them:
Windows: bdlukaa.github.io/fluent_ui/
MacOS: groovinchip.github.io/macos_ui/
See fluent ui
This is why flutter walks all over compose.
So I can make a Windows 95 aesthetic with Flutter? AWESOME.
Definitely, you can make it almost pixel perfect. It would start as fast also so the user would only suspect something if they opened task manager and looked at the CPU/GPU usage (which can go up a few 10% under heavy rendering, but then quickly settles down to 0% under idle, good!) and memory usage (sits around average 70 MB). Both of these are definitely tolerable considering that you get ALL common platforms.
Flutter une techno vraiment d'avenir !!
Amazing video. Please make more of such videos...
wow! that was awesome! perfect job! thank you very much for sharing this.
Yeaa bois, finally..
Loved this talk!
Thank you for the informative video! Very interesting
How about support for multi monitor, where a single app can have multiple views, each view can be dragged onto different monitors (for example trading apps).
We're building this feature now in Flutter - look for it to land later this year.
Wow! This is amazing 😍
Eagerly waiting, but still think flutter isn't ready for desktop. I am trying to make a cross platform app , including desktop, but I am unable to find a plugin on playing audio on windows. I do know how to play audio in windows c++ , but am unable to find how to receive a string in windows side of things. If anyone knows that, please help me man🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Edit:- I do know how to work with Method Channels in Android and iOS(swift) side of things.
Flutter is ready for desktop, but the community isn't. Just like how it took around a year for packages to develop for mobile, then web, it will take some time for desktop. The flutter team has done their part, and its now time for us to do our part
Use Dart FFI
@@siddharthagrawal2693 yes, you are right brother
@@ranth18 brother I need to write platform specific code for all platforms, I can do that , but I am unable to do that for desktop platforms. That is my problem
@@siddharthagrawal2693 btw, do you know how to use the method channels on windows ?
Great idea, great work
Is there any options like flex box or grid for the layout design can please help me I am newbie 😢😢😢
So someone is probably gonna make the widgets for windows, Mac and Linux. And when that happens we can actually make some desktop applications real fast
I love this video
As far as I can tell the original app was written in Java. Why did the original app need to be retired?
It was a Java Web Start app, and Java Web Start has been deprecated. As users upgrade their machines and reinstall Java, it's becoming a larger and larger headache to make sure they install the right (older) version of Java.
But also, as a manager on the Flutter team, it was a fun project and a good excuse to switch to Flutter :-)
is there something wrong with the code on 8:38 and 8:41? if (slot == Slot.content) { ...} is duplicated thrice, shouldn't the latter two be corrected with if (slot == Slot.upButton){...} and if (slot == Slot.downButton){...} ?
Yep, good catch! The real source code uses a switch statement, but I changed it to an if/else for the talk because it took less space -- apparently I was a little overzealous with the copy/paste :-)
@@ToddVolkert Amazing tutorial Todd, learned a lot (I know I'm a little late)
This is awesome.
pretty awesome!!
Hoping a stable release for desktop apps
will we have to create every widget in our apps by our selves?
I'm impressed and I'm not easily impressed.
Superb 👍
TL;DW: it's complicated. you're gonna be building your own widgets... you could try maintaining that burden or just use Qt or smth
great job
Seems that Google reinvented the Java Swing Framework, but even more complicated (3 trees instead of 2). 😄
excellent. thinksss alottt
mouse and physical keyboard ready apps, resizeable screens, multi-modal screen, anything else?
Someone has to create this library which we can use instead of Cupertino and Material libraries
The library exists (under active development) - search for "Chicago" in Pub. :-)
is there support for oauth2 desktop application, mainly a webview/webengine ?
thanks sir
When will flutter release desktop support for firebase plugins
that 14 year old app is still lookin good though
How can we perform screen recording in desktop ?
Bring firebase to desktop
ALTGR + @ not work in desktop European languages Keyboards
thanks mas bro
How to enable desktop development...
I’d like to know why they had to completely re-write the app in the first place!
It was based on Java Web Start, which has long since been deprecated, and so users were having issues when they upgraded their Java version.
Can anyone help me to access camera in Desktop using flutter
Hi
How to connect flutter with ms SQL server for local development?
You have to create an API backend to communicate with this and the API will connect with your database
The native way just seems way easier at this point
I wanna watch this but its at 12 am for me :(
Full Firebase plugin support
Waiting
😎😎😎bring it on
Looks like HPU is still using exact copy of 14 year old software.(Himachal Pradesh University)
😍🔥
Hi
How to connect flutter with ms SQL server for local development?
Flutter V2+
Could you share code?
The source code for the Chicago library is at goo.gle/3dZKDVy
All this for a simple spinner. Better build desktop widgets instead of prompting people to use mobile widgets for desktop. It will easier and require less efforts to build desktop app. Or else, you will miss the main point of flutter which is designed to build apps easily and rapidly.
I have a better solution (There is something called Electronjs) that uses HTML CSS and Js easier more flexible ... I mean come on I just came striving to see better options and I was bombarded with this boiler code ... huge ass learning curve ... I mean seriously why things get harder :D
Tauri ftw
Until it becomes easily supported to make flutter apps on flatpak, flutter will be dead on linux.
this is terrible. Its like u guys never saw qt framework and how layouts/widgets can be implemented. Like holy F!
Why doesn't it work for me?. I add in the pubspec.yaml file the following code and in OUTPUT the error is published.
dependencies:
chicago: ^0.3.0-dev
--
[chicago] flutter pub get
Running "flutter pub get" in chicago...
Error on line 32, column 3 of pubspec.yaml: A package may not list itself as a dependency.
╷
32 │ chicago: ^0.3.0-dev
│ ^^^^^^^
╵
pub get failed (65; ╵)
exit code 65