Nice video, and nice music! It serves this replay well. Excellent timing with the music as well! :) My favorite part of this win was that I preserved the AI ally, which I didn't know was possible to do until I did it in this win! I'm glad that people on TH-cam get to see what's possible to do in KaM! I reloaded saves many times to achieve this time. I didn't need to reload so many saves due to heavy losses, but because I sometimes had to do 3 things at once! My motivation for winning this mission quickly was to see how quickly a human can beat TSK20, as it was always something I myself wondered, considering that I took several hours to beat it when I first started playing KaM. I wasn't expecting my plan (which I luckily executed perfectly in the video) to allow me to beat it so quickly. I was estimating it would be about a 15 minute game! Therefore this particular win was an eye opener for me, as I can probably guess is true for other people who either saw my replay on the forums or have seen it here on TH-cam. Two notes: [1] At 3:01 (in the video), I did not attack the crossbowman in the right group of 6 until my ally's incoming pikemen came in the group of 12 crossbowmen's firing range. I knew that once the group of 12 crossbowmen started firing at my ally, they wouldn't move when I strike one of the crossbowmen in the right group of 6. This was probably the most crucial part of the plan, as when my ally's pikemen started to attack the group of 12 crossbowmen, they in turn drew out the remainder of the bottom middle town's troops so that I wouldn't have to. [2] If anyone missed it, at 4:32 (in the video), I got the left village's troops to come after my knight by making him quickly strike the armor smithy as he was running from the top center village's troops. I had to experiment a little to see where and when I could make him strike a building in the left village to give me a window of opportunity to slip him through that village and make them start chasing him too!
Alif Gusti Did you install "Knights and Merchants the Peasants Rebellion"? That's a prerequisite. If you did and are still having problems, ask your question on knightsandmerchants(dot)net. Lewin and Krom (the creators of the Remake) will guide you.
For those who enjoyed this 11.5 minute win, check out my 4.5 minute win in the latest release (which has a smarter AI). th-cam.com/video/srP9q3gYcOs/w-d-xo.html
I can admit this is really good play, but you have to admit it's possible mostly thanks to poor game mechanic. Those armies waiting in a big cluster to be slaughtered 1 by 1 in between the construction sites, come on :D The same goes for whole army following 1 soldier around whole map. But yes, it's just AI programmed by humans.
every 10 sec 1 hitpoint is restored, if no hit was done. Hit system in KaM is quite unique - its all about probability. And when you hit from flank you get huge bonus: from 45 degree: attack x2, from 90 x3, 135 x4, 180 x5. Where attack is just a probability. Knight has about 30% (60 attack / 2 armor (every unit has 1 base armor, even militia) probability to hit at every attack with 0 degree. Barbarian has 4 hp. Also there are 3 barbarians at enemies way, so the choose which to attack randomly. So they have a lot of time to recover. When barbarian attack from 90 degree he has 100*3 flank modifier/3 armor = 100% hit. 4 hits and knight is dead.
A lot in this video was pure luck, like 5:00 for example. But still to win this map with only your starting troops is amazing. And even yout ally (yellow) had some remaining soilders at the end!
@@arual5762 nah its a cause of the at the time poor programming and also luck, plenty of times archers could easily stop and shoot, which is what they actually fixed. Building a build having it sit and wait i call cheating, yes its using the mechanics but its still cheating to me. The horses several times were inches away from being hit + a few 1 hitters here and there which those chances are 1/10 on any unit even serfs, so yes. luck
+theitatit You're correct only in the plan that was executed in this video. However, I have beaten the new AI (r6720) in 4 minutes and 58 seconds. I posted my replay on the forums. Google "tsk 20 in 4m58s" and select the first search result. I have posted a video on my 5 minute and 58 second win on my channel (for which you can get a link to in that thread or by looking at my channel). As stated in the last post of that thread, I am currently attempting to beat this mission in 4 minutes and 30 seconds or less. It could be possible to beat the r6720 AI in under 4 minutes. Should I succeed, I will request KaMRemakefan to make a video for you guys of this new replay.
I cannot grant your request. The original TSK doesn't run on my 64 bit system (and I don't think anyone else's without a virtual machine). I had them enter the right side of enemy base in a straight vertical line formation riding on the far right side of the bridge. I lost the first knight in the process.
The original TSK is working on my Win10 with 64 bit system. :) Fans from knights.sztab.com made pocket-installer-folder. knights.sztab.com/download.html
+4EverTrying ahh right :( they deleted it i can send you it per mail or download it from my chomikuj.pl/nimphaea (password same as aka) but on chomikuj you need to register
It's very realistic, considering that I later won it in 8 minutes using a similar tactic. However, I admit my "TSK 20 in 4.5 Minutes" win is not realistic (at least not at normal game time speeds).
This isn't so special if you consider the AI just being really dumb and the ai back then was poorly made, which was later fixed as they said so its not that special, try it on the new AI which is fair game then see if he does it. x)
+Neo Troost I not only "did it" on the new AI (r6720), but I got LESS THAN HALF of the time I did in this version. Google "TSK 20 in under 6 minutes". That is my 5 minute 58 second win replay on video. ;) Late last year, I took off another minute from that and thus got a 4 minute and 58 second win. (So that's less than half of 11.5 minutes.) You can download the full-working replay on the forum. I intend (when I have time) to beat it in 4 minutes and 30 seconds or less sooner or later...
![Knights and Merchants TSK 20 [54:42]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_8CP7EWXY4/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm impressed. Also I've never played a game more challenging than Knights and Merchants was.
Nice video, and nice music! It serves this replay well. Excellent timing with the music as well! :)
My favorite part of this win was that I preserved the AI ally, which I didn't know was possible to do until I did it in this win!
I'm glad that people on TH-cam get to see what's possible to do in KaM! I reloaded saves many times to achieve this time. I didn't need to reload so many saves due to heavy losses, but because I sometimes had to do 3 things at once!
My motivation for winning this mission quickly was to see how quickly a human can beat TSK20, as it was always something I myself wondered, considering that I took several hours to beat it when I first started playing KaM.
I wasn't expecting my plan (which I luckily executed perfectly in the video) to allow me to beat it so quickly. I was estimating it would be about a 15 minute game! Therefore this particular win was an eye opener for me, as I can probably guess is true for other people who either saw my replay on the forums or have seen it here on TH-cam.
Two notes:
[1] At 3:01 (in the video), I did not attack the crossbowman in the right group of 6 until my ally's incoming pikemen came in the group of 12 crossbowmen's firing range. I knew that once the group of 12 crossbowmen started firing at my ally, they wouldn't move when I strike one of the crossbowmen in the right group of 6. This was probably the most crucial part of the plan, as when my ally's pikemen started to attack the group of 12 crossbowmen, they in turn drew out the remainder of the bottom middle town's troops so that I wouldn't have to.
[2] If anyone missed it, at 4:32 (in the video), I got the left village's troops to come after my knight by making him quickly strike the armor smithy as he was running from the top center village's troops. I had to experiment a little to see where and when I could make him strike a building in the left village to give me a window of opportunity to slip him through that village and make them start chasing him too!
"What makes me an Expert isn't my skill in of itself, but my desire to use bugs." - Cmowla
:D
OMG that tactics :O Amazing :O
+MrTopielec , heheheh, he is pro at singleplayer yee :)
невероятно))) (unbelievable)
+Curtis Fousborn heheheh, ^ ^
Whoa didn't know the enemy army was that big in this mission. Very good play. Wonder if its possible without the building trick:) Probably hehe.
this is absolutely fucking genius
Красавчик!
согласен
Красавчик.
Heroic
I love it that is so special about the game I wish I can play to
Yeah, what's your problem? Why can you not play the game?
Because I cannot download it .I try the same way as yours but it cannot do it
Alif Gusti Did you install "Knights and Merchants the Peasants Rebellion"? That's a prerequisite. If you did and are still having problems, ask your question on knightsandmerchants(dot)net. Lewin and Krom (the creators of the Remake) will guide you.
For those who enjoyed this 11.5 minute win, check out my 4.5 minute win in the latest release (which has a smarter AI).
th-cam.com/video/srP9q3gYcOs/w-d-xo.html
that fucking music
I can admit this is really good play, but you have to admit it's possible mostly thanks to poor game mechanic. Those armies waiting in a big cluster to be slaughtered 1 by 1 in between the construction sites, come on :D The same goes for whole army following 1 soldier around whole map. But yes, it's just AI programmed by humans.
why at 9:00 knights can't kill any of barbarians? they making 2-3 swings and still didn't kill anyone. barbarians has only 1 defence slot.
+Mrisviz but also 4 attack points, when 3 at once attack 1 unit, not matter how much he hit at, 1 unit never gonna kill anyone xD
gennkk but still knight before death making 2-3 swings on this lightdefenced unit and can't kill it. strange
+Mrisviz I think that was possible because units get back to full health if they are out of combat
every 10 sec 1 hitpoint is restored, if no hit was done. Hit system in KaM is quite unique - its all about probability. And when you hit from flank you get huge bonus: from 45 degree: attack x2, from 90 x3, 135 x4, 180 x5. Where attack is just a probability. Knight has about 30% (60 attack / 2 armor (every unit has 1 base armor, even militia) probability to hit at every attack with 0 degree. Barbarian has 4 hp. Also there are 3 barbarians at enemies way, so the choose which to attack randomly. So they have a lot of time to recover. When barbarian attack from 90 degree he has 100*3 flank modifier/3 armor = 100% hit. 4 hits and knight is dead.
What is the music title? Awesome!
From which part in the game?
Guess the one from aroud 6:20
@@PatatjeMetal a place in heaven, Thomas Bergersen
Brawo!
A lot in this video was pure luck, like 5:00 for example. But still to win this map with only your starting troops is amazing. And even yout ally (yellow) had some remaining soilders at the end!
@@arual5762 nah its a cause of the at the time poor programming and also luck, plenty of times archers could easily stop and shoot, which is what they actually fixed. Building a build having it sit and wait i call cheating, yes its using the mechanics but its still cheating to me. The horses several times were inches away from being hit + a few 1 hitters here and there which those chances are 1/10 on any unit even serfs, so yes. luck
i'd be more impressed on the original, which i've seen people do.
Как долго добивался?
3 days, but this one took me 2 weeks! th-cam.com/video/srP9q3gYcOs/w-d-xo.html
good job ;)
Ty men! :]
i don't think it's possible with the new AI, since the archers now stop and shoot whenever they get a chance
+theitatit You're correct only in the plan that was executed in this video. However, I have beaten the new AI (r6720) in 4 minutes and 58 seconds. I posted my replay on the forums. Google "tsk 20 in 4m58s" and select the first search result. I have posted a video on my 5 minute and 58 second win on my channel (for which you can get a link to in that thread or by looking at my channel). As stated in the last post of that thread, I am currently attempting to beat this mission in 4 minutes and 30 seconds or less. It could be possible to beat the r6720 AI in under 4 minutes. Should I succeed, I will request KaMRemakefan to make a video for you guys of this new replay.
Try it in original TSK (no TPR no Remake). .. In Remake and in TPR it's easier... and how you enter your 6 cavaliers into enemy base... (not shown)
I cannot grant your request. The original TSK doesn't run on my 64 bit system (and I don't think anyone else's without a virtual machine).
I had them enter the right side of enemy base in a straight vertical line formation riding on the far right side of the bridge. I lost the first knight in the process.
The original TSK is working on my Win10 with 64 bit system. :) Fans from knights.sztab.com made pocket-installer-folder. knights.sztab.com/download.html
Thanks for info, how you got your riders in his base. :D
I can't find anything that says "pocket-installer-folder" or similar on that download page. Is it "Windows Vista / Windows 7 fix"?
+4EverTrying ahh right :( they deleted it i can send you it per mail or download it from my chomikuj.pl/nimphaea (password same as aka) but on chomikuj you need to register
I spended like 7-8 hours on this mission lol
I got it after 9 hours
@@jackcola5513, I too))
я пять часов проходил))))))
Пфф, я 9
читер, управлять одновременно множеством отрядов и единичными войнами нереально
It's very realistic, considering that I later won it in 8 minutes using a similar tactic. However, I admit my "TSK 20 in 4.5 Minutes" win is not realistic (at least not at normal game time speeds).
This isn't so special if you consider the AI just being really dumb and the ai back then was poorly made, which was later fixed as they said so its not that special, try it on the new AI which is fair game then see if he does it. x)
+Neo Troost This is not expert if the AI doesn't work the way it should
+Neo Troost
I not only "did it" on the new AI (r6720), but I got LESS THAN HALF of the time I did in this version. Google "TSK 20 in under 6 minutes". That is my 5 minute 58 second win replay on video. ;)
Late last year, I took off another minute from that and thus got a 4 minute and 58 second win. (So that's less than half of 11.5 minutes.) You can download the full-working replay on the forum.
I intend (when I have time) to beat it in 4 minutes and 30 seconds or less sooner or later...
WTF
ruf fus Whats up?
this not actually.its was fixed
Oh, so you were in contact with me while I was playing and overheard me saying that it was fake? Proof?