So, you’re telling me that two guys started an animation studio that specialised in cartoons specifically based around music, and their names were Harman and Ising, and they DIDN’T call themselves Harmonising studios?
I guess that they either never thought of it, or didn't want to make it look like they were competing against one another, what with Harman's name having to come first with a name like that. But I mean... it works SO well, that I wouldn't have minded my name coming second if I were Ising.
"Smile, Darn Ya, Smile"... Suddenly, I understand why they used that song for the ending of Who Framed Roger Rabbit... That is a DEEP CUT on their part.
That movie was the BEST and it finally brought both worlds together. Looney Toons and Disney. I'm surprised Disney did this considering their revelry with their Looney Toons competitors. And I wonder if LT had a hand to making that film as well. Must have been great fun for all involved.
@@k-dogg9086 It wasn't just those two studios, either--there were cameos by characters from a bunch of others. From a modern perspective, forget the *technical* obstacles--the legal/business maneuvering required to make it seems almost unimaginable.
I watched one of his cartoons, "Bosko's Store," which may not be a typical episode for him. It was rough on him, though. But maybe I just feel that way because I never really watched Tom & Jerry. It's a pre-code cartoon. A little dog steals sausage from Bosko and then gets chopped up in a fan.... And then gets re-assembled without death. And then I think either the same dog (or maybe a mouse) goes into a meat grinder, then gets ground up into tiny versions of himself... Oh, and near the end, one character (an evil baby) pulls barbed wire up through Bosko's legs and against his crotch. He's certainly got his hands more than full here.
@@mariafox9226 yeah but they toned down the racism after the animation test short. Idk if you’ve seen it but they REALLY push it on you that he’s a black stereotype in that one.
@@cursorguy I'm sorry to way this but it's true. Stereotypes of all peoples nations and ethnicities exist, and for a reason. If people can't laugh as these then people are not really free at all. As long as its not insulting slandering or false accusations, it should be fine. But people then and especially now don't have a sense of humour and just want to bully and control others.. Notice this "censor culture" of today by a bunch of two-faced hypocrite self-righteous way too sensitive sjw Snowflakes. And this is communism and not freedom of speech assembly or press.
Also the main villain of the Alice shorts has remained with us from then up until today antagonizing Oswald and his friends and later on Mickey and his friends It’s Pete the bear/cat/rabbit/dog (they’ve flip flopped on that quite a bit they might as well make him a mutant hybrid of all of those things)
And would also become the right hand man to Maleficent in Kingdom Hearts, gaining the ability to control literal beings of darkness capable of destroying worlds. ...you know, typing that out made realize, again, that this game is just a tad bit weird.
Sometimes I feel alone in being an anime lover while also being a fan of western animation too. Western animation fans always rag on how "badly animated" anime is, and anime fans always riff on western animation for being like "noodle arms and dancing flowers". Is it so strange to like both but for very different reasons?? Anyway, looking forward to seeing more from this series! :D I'm so excited!
Your not alone, I love the old classic Hollywood animation, particularly Warner Brothers and Tex Avery's stuff - lots of timeless comedy gags out of these shorts. For modern stuff I just like animation in general that does something different it just so happens that Japan produces more of it. (Though I do think things have gotten a lot safer recently over there and really miss the experimentation of the 80s-early 2000s.)
Bosko makes a surprise appearance in a 1990 episode, "Fields of Honey", of the television series Tiny Toon Adventures, in which Babs Bunny, after being told by the Acme Looniversity's mysterious vaultkeeper about Honey (voiced by B. J. Ward), is led by a mysterious voice to build a theater that shows nothing but cartoons of Bosko's girlfriend, Honey. Babs does so, and the resulting audience laughter rejuvenates the ailing Honey and reveals the voice, as well as the vaultkeeper to be none other than Bosko (voiced by Don Messick) himself. Curiously, the cartoon depicts Bosko and Honey as dog-like creatures similar to the lead characters of the later TV show Animaniacs, presumably so as not to offend viewers with the original black-face characterizations. Another reason may be that this episode served as a "bridge" between Tiny Toons Adventures and Animaniacs. Not only are Honey and Bosko redesigned to be dog-like characters, but Honey is funnier and has more personality.
Also, Foxy, Roxy, and Goopy Geer return in the Tiny Toons episode Two-Tone Town. Buster and Babs help them become popular again. I always thought they were created for the show, never knew they were real characters!
Yup. I remember. Aired December 7,1990. Mainly because Bosko Cartoons were being shown on Nickelodeon at the time during "Looeny Tunes on Nick at Nite" in 1988-1990.
I was expecting this to be brought up at the end. I didn't knew about the original Bosko shorts, but as soon as I saw the thumbnail and tittle I thought "hey, didn't he appear in that Tiny Toon episode?" specially after I saw Honey.
Really glad to have had this documentary recommended to me. It is well put-together and talks about one of my favorite unknown cartoon characters. I remember watching Bosko cartoons as a kid. Really great animation history lesson! :)
@@MichaelTurner856 He probably watched the Bosko shorts back when Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon was a Nick at Nite show that aired black and white cartoons (mid-to-late 1980s).
I remember I was watching that Bosko cartoon he first appeared in with my grandpa and as soon as the animator drew Bosko on that paper I was like “aww, a monkey with clothes” and my grandpa had the most pissed off look on his face as soon as I said that 😂 I was 8 and didn’t know much about stereotypes.
@@jcharmaine1 I'd say 2000, that was the first time "Bosko, the Talk-Ink Kid" had been seen publicly for 70 years up until it was shown on Cartoon Network's Toonheads: The Lost Cartoons! They may have shown it again after though, and it was also on a Looney Tunes DVD collection as well.
@@TheMrPeteChannel the characters are actually based on Hamlet. While the fact that the characters are lions was stolen by Kimba the storyline and characters are based on Hamlet.
@@childof83 Was that the show on Cartoon Network talking about really ancient and historical cartoons of obscurity from way, way back when? If so, I think I remember it.
Not just live action, a live PERFORMANCE! Though it wasn't the first animated film. There'd been several before it, including several more by Windsor McKay, but none were as influential as Gertie. Fun fact: his studio was in the neighborhood where I grew up.
@@gabe_s_videos Though, some other oft-touted "first" animations, Fantasmagorie and Humorous Phases of Funny Faces, also made use of live actio. It's an interestingly common trope in early works.
@@Shoobster I love Humorous Phases of Funny Faces! A lot of those films were also more spectacle than anything, like a magic trick. Gertie was like that as well, but there was more of an emphasis on character with her.
Wish I had this during history of animation class, beautifully edited and wonderfully engaging. Its almost criminal that someone who does work this good doesn't have more subscribers
For years I assumed Harman and Ising were stage names specifically chosen because together they sound like "harmonizing" and that there was no way those could be their REAL names because the real world is never that neat and tidy. And yet here we are.
Its kind of funny that this historic time in animation was akin to an OC war. (Oswald led to Mickey, Foxy/Roxy and Bosko/Honey shared similarities to Mickey and Minnie, as well as Goofy with Goopy Geer, etc.) I guess some things never change lol.
My favourites are Daffy and Donald ducks, both these ducks are cute and funny, crazy and tempermental, egotistical and crude.. with Daffy being more manic than Donald though.. and Donald more vengeful than Daffy. But clearly their spinoffs of one another.
There's something so surreal in finding out how connected all these old animation studios were in one way or another, hearing all these names you would have never imagined shared the same roof with one another at various points
Hello. I just saw this video for the first time, and I appreciate your reference to Jack Zander's letter to me. Thank you so much for including it. Good job on the video!
Growing up in the 1950s our local, small-market TV station ran old cartoons all day Saturday with some Laurel & Hardy movies and old westerns in the afternoons. I think I have seen every Looney Tunes or Merrie Melodies 'tune a hundred times!
It really is a shame that Bosko has been effectively shelved from broadcast or reintroduction into modern Looney Tunes renditions aside from brief cameos. Sure he was really an attempt to cash in on the popularity of Mickey Mouse, but I honestly believe to this day watching both the Bosko Cartoons and the old B&W Mickey Cartoons that Bosko was funnier most of the time and would show more emotion like sadness or anger making him just a bit more relatable. Disney decided about halfway through Mickey's B&W era to gear the cartoons more towards younger kids and he stayed that way for all the rest of his animated shorts. Bosko and all the Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies in general have almost always geared more towards older kids and especially adults. They have always been edgier and more willing to step up or even over the line (at least until recent projects). Bosko did start off as a stereotype and that unfortunately can never be denied, but he was quickly made less and less obvious a stereotype through a voice change and how he was drawn. If the character had been retained you probably would have seen him become more of an anthropomorphic creature of some sort and definitely in many color short films at Warner. The worst thing that could have happened unfortunately did, when his character rights were lost and Harman and Ising (his owners and creators) decided to move to MGM and do a more blatantly racist stereotype voice, hair, and all. His character was completely done away with after only nine shorts and only seven after they completely changed his and honey's appearance and voice. So sad an end to Bosko. There are still some of us that genuinely love and enjoy the character. The original Looney Tune Bosko look and sound of course. I did like what they did for Bosko and Honey's last appearance though, in the Tiny Toons show, to further him and Honey from that stereotype but still retain the overall appearance and personality of the characters. Too bad things are so bad now that no one at Warner Brother's would ever want to take another chance on the character making a new appearance. I honestly think modern kids would absolutely love Bosko and Honey.
When I saw that demo reel of Bosko on one of my Looney Tunes Gold Collection DVDs, I said to myself, "What brand of ink pen is that? I want one of those." I was a practicing artist at the time.
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Nickelodeon started airing Looney Tunes sometime in the late 80's. It was my first exposure to Bosko & Honey. I remember thinking they weren't bad. They weren't Bugs Bunny, but they were decent. (What made it more fun was when Tiny Toons had a Honey & Bosko episode several years later because I had the context.) Then Nick would air a Buddy cartoon. Let's just say I got a lot of my assigned chores done while Buddy was playing. Buddy cartoons were as exciting as dry dog food.
I'm really glad you're doing this series. I loved the Looney Tunes growing up, and this is shaping up to be a great series. Also, if you need some booze to get you through the mid-to-late 60s WB Cartoons, I'll be happy to provide.
Awesome! this is like Defunctland for LooneyTunes. Hope for more Looney Tunes Warner Bros goodness to come. My faves are Bugs Bunny cartoons. Bosko is a very interesting early Looney Tunes star.
@@KaiserBeamzYeah just as i thought. Also, when will we learn more about Harman and Ising at MGM and their later years, as well as starting the termite terrace era of Looney Tunes and Marries Melodies WB cartoons?
Already expressed how much I enjoyed this on Twitter, but for the sake of the algorithm, this is really great stuff and you got yourself a new subscriber :)
poparena thank you for recommending this on your Twitter! I’ve been studying LT/MM history for the past 20 years and I thought this was very well made and a brilliant video to watch. I love your work on Nick Knacks BTW. Keep up the great work!
A huge thank you for putting in the effort to share the love and enthusiasm for animation history. It's a good way for people to get a much-needed deeper dive into animation appreciation. Keep up the good work.
There's an interesting gag at the end of "Bosko the Doughboy" which indicates that Harman and Ising's idea of what Bosko *was* had changed somewhat since they created him. :-)
Nicholas Sammond, after describing Mickey's blacking himself up via an explosion writes: That in 1933 they seemed white enough that they needed to blacken up in order to clearly read as minstrels speaks to the state of animation at the dawn of sound film: they had become vestigial minstrels, carrying the tokens of blackface minstrelsy in their bodies and behaviors yet no longer immediately signifying as such. Nicholas Sammond, Birth of an Industry: Blackface Minstrelsy and the Rise of American Animation (Durham: Duke University Press, 2015), 3.
it's a blackface gag. and he always supposed to be a black kid unfortunately. they never changed him. he was only changed in animaniacs (and glad he was) cuz that was more modern and bosko hadn't been used in decades. wouldn't call that an interesting gag. it was shitty and overdone trope and an unfortunate product of that time.
@@MsDudette21 I meant it's interesting because it implied that Harman and Ising had forgotten, or changed their minds, that Bosko was supposed to be a blackface caricature the rest of the time. I didn't mean the gag itself was interesting, it's more the fact that it exists that is interesting.
@@jvgreendarmok well doing that gag to me just amplifies the fact he's a black kid more. they intentionally made him look nonhuman cuz heaven forbid black people be seen as actual humans. some ppl thought bosko was a monkey. also there were only 7 shorts when bosko and honey got a makeover where they looked like actual black kids. strangely enough, they were negatively received and they retired bosko. despite still being stereotypically racist, i find it interesting that people all of a sudden didnt like the new bosko because he was now obviously black. it was the 30s so people were still openly racist then so i highly doubt it was cuz it made them feel guilty to find that funny.
I wonder what it would have been like if Harman and Ising DID get those bigger budgets they asked of Schlesinger... what would both series be like? Would they follow suit of Disney, with more Silly Symphonies-like directions, or would they eventually develop their more insane humor-driven directions? Or would they just spin-off into completley different directions? What would Bosko look like; would he keep his inkblot look or evolve into the design he eventually got during his time at MGM? It's one of life's greatest mysteries...
this is incredible, seriously, these guys were in real life like b-movie caricatures of themselves, and all of the names I remember from childhood. amazing job.
This is so well put together, thank you. I can't wait to see more! Definitely deserves more views! With Animaniacs returning soon this has really shed some light on some of their visual and historical inspirations and references like Bosko and Buddy. The history of Warner Bros animation in general is fascinating.
I've had Bosko in my head since the Toonheads episode about him and Foxy from long, long ago, and I could never quite find the whole story all in one place. Glad to finally get it all these years later, this is great!
Thank you so much for making a full comprehensive guide to the Looney Tunes! This makes alot of us fans real happy! Seeing the birth of our favourites is a real treat! I love Bosko and the ground work he laid for future stars. He maybe controversial but he built the foundations for what would be an international success!
I love Bosko even more now that I learn he's "controversial" because people seriously need a sense of humour and a damn life. I NEVER got any racist themes watching those cartoons!
Could you cover the rest of Bosko’s history His episodes in happy harmonies including the dreadful MGM redesign, and of course whatever deal lead to Warner Bros getting him back for his very brief cameos in tiny tunes, space jam and animaniacs
I would suspect one of 4 things about the Bosko rights. A, eventually the rights ended up in the public domain. B Harman and Ising sold the rights to Sunset Productions for television, and eventually the rights were transferred to Warner Brothers. Or C they sold the rights to Warner directly. With MGM and later Turner keeping the rights to his MGM shorts. Or they sold the rights of the character to MGM but the not the black and white shorts until Sunset enter the picture.
@@stephenholloway6893 but how did WB get the looney toons characters of porky of bugs bunny and daddy daffy duck if Harmon and Izing created them?? We always see the WB logo on these cartoons.
@@k-dogg9086 When Leon Schesinger sold the animation studio to Warner Brothers the names of the series of shorts and characters went with it. Far as the copyrights to the characters and trademarks for the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies. Though he had to get Harman and Ising to give him the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies names before they left..
@@stephenholloway6893 oh, ok I got it now.. he sold the studio and trademarks and characters to WB, but before he did got the creators to sign it over to him for legality. But Schesinger produced these, the contracts he signed with Harmon and Izing gave him permission to do so.. they were the private contractors as rights holders, and the producer produced and distributed their works for them. K Got it 👍 😆
@@k-dogg9086 Basically yes. Up til Leon sold the studio Warner just distribute the shorts. Same with the Harman Ising era. The reason why Bosko no longer appeared in anymore WB shorts after 1933 for example was because Harman and Ising kept the rights to him and eventually began making new Bosko shorts at MGM.
Huh, I watched Some tiny toons awhile back and they referenced Bosco and Honey and I thought they were made up for the cartoon. Neat to know they were real.
I remember Bosco and Honey in a Tiny Toon Adventures episode where Babs was trying to find her heroine! Buster had Bugs, Plucky had Daffy, and so on. Good episode covering the origins Loony Tunes!
Bosko shouting, "That dirty fuck!" just kinda makes me like him more. The balls that had to take at the time. I prefer the 1990's Tiny Toons redesign though.
I think it makes sense that one of the first talking cartoons had to have a bit of a funny voice for animators to have something to latch onto, and practices like making the character all-black to speed up animation and keeping the face white for expressions had already been established, so there's kind of an inevitability to his design
This video is amazing. You not only did your research, you are teaching animation history the right way! (Animation History should be told through the eyes of the artists that worked on the films.)
Classic Cartoon. then Porky Pig came after Bosko to put Loony Tunes on the map with the help of Warner Brothers. then Duffy Duck came after Porky pig then Bugs Bunny came around after Daffy Duck. so this is not all folks yet it's only the beging with the cartoon History. see you for the next one soon.
One of the things I liked about Warner Brothers was that they brought Bosko and Honey back as a cameo in an episode of Tiny Tunes. I also think for a while during their Looney Tunes block Nickelodeon showed a few of the Bosko cartoons if I remember right.
You know there was allot of people who sounded like that in certain parts of the USA at the time. Funny how when Pepe LePew speaks in a French accent or when Mario speaks in an Italian accent it's never an issue.
@@TheMrPeteChannel I don't think French and Italian accents stopped people from getting jobs or being seen as illiterate and stupid. Some stereotypes bring more harm than others. Also he was copyright registered as 'negro boy' -_-
@@brooksie3320 Back then if a person heard an Italian or French accent that meant one thing to the average American at that time....."a foreign Catholic immigrant here to take my job". Now I'll admit most didn't have it as bad as African Americans but still.
26:22 is a printed ad for a Brunswick radio with Panatrope phonograph in which Brunswick inked the deal with WB where they manufactured Panotrope phonographs like Victor did with the Victrola phonographs, and then later put out records by many artists. Unfortunately, Brunswick ended the WB deal by the early 1930’s and went independent, and by the 1940’s, Brunswick made a distribution deal with Decca where it remained until the late 1960’s when Decca ended the deal, and Brunswick went back as an independent label again into the 1970’s and 1980’s. Brunswick started as a jazz, and then later became a R&B label with such great artists including Jackie Wilson, Barbara Acklin, Young Holt Unlimited, and the Chi-Lites.
Funny how your memory can get jogged, but, after watching this I now recall that back in the early 90's, Nickelodeon would run a 30 minute block of Warner Bros. cartoons at various times in the schedule, enough for 4 standard shorts, and the second one shown was always, ALWAYS a Bosko short..... or Buddy.
Me: Invested on the long, detailed history of these animators and is refreshed to hear of Disney’s flaws after he’s been deified for so long. At the 15:15 mark “His name, was Bosco.” I get even more excited because I remember that’s what I clicked this video for. Been loving these. Reminds me of the Defunct Land channel in the best possible way.
@@Tonabillity you ppl are the type that sees racism everywhere and ruins shit for everyone so that we can't have a thing let alone a sense of humour! 🙄
I finally watched it last night, and it really was more awful that i could have imagined. I actually like the first movie, and even Back in Action, for whatever that' worth, but A New Legacy was so terrible i really can't believe it. The only scenes that felt remotely funny, or anything LIKE Looney Tunes was the slo-mo Roadrunner and Coyote gag, and i liked the Porky Pig rap scene for just how ironically hilarious it was that it actually made it into the film, i couldn't believe what i was seeing... Notorious P.I.G., lmao.
I know, it's shocking how under-viewed these professional looking documentaries are. I've shared em' around - all I can hope is that he'll get a future video that strikes the algorithm's fancy.
Nice video! Kaiser. You taught me some stuff that I didn’t even know about! Also, a note: In late 1929. After his stint in KC (again) and working for the jerk known as George Winkler, moved to NYC (the animation capital of the time) to work for the Harrison-Gould studio. in which Charles Mintz, M.J. Winkler, and Columbia Pictures. Were distributing at the time. Freleng didn’t like his time working for the studio and only took the job so that he can support family back home in the Midwest. In early 1930, Once Harman and Ising wrote to Friz that their Bosko cartoon got accepted by Schlesinger. Moved back to LA to work for his friends back in the sunshine state. Speaking of Harrison-Gould. The two, alongside the rest of his staff (animators Art Davis, Al Rose, and Harry Love and musical director. Joe DeNat) moved to a building also in LA while animating one of their Krazy Kat shorts on a private Railcar whilst traveling on train. Manny Gould would later be one of the more wackier animators who also used the old NY method of Straight-Ahead as opposed to having breakdown artists, inbetweeners. And clean-up/assistants. and on another note, Ben Clopton. A Montana Cowpoke who got in controversy with his relationship with the body double of Hedy LaMarr. Also worked for Disney, Harrison-Gould, Iwerks, and Leon Schlesinger Productions alongside other studios
0:00: Gertie the Dinosuar and Windsor McCay 1:36: Six Young Men 2:33: Opening Sequence 3:04: We Open in Kansas City 6:54: Let's go to L.A. 8:12: Charles Mintz 12:06: Goodbye, Disney 15:16: Meet Bosko 18:52: Hello, Schlesinger 21:14: Bosko in the Bathtub 23:17: Bosko Kind of Sucks (or Does He?) 26:20: Merrie Melodies 31:53: Bosko the Star 34:05: '32 and '33 37:23: Under the Surface of Looney Tunes 40:49: Harman and Ising Leave
The Disney Studio in Kansas City MO was in the process of being restored when a drunk driver slammed into it a few years ago. I don't recall hearing anything about the driver having ever been found......
Bosko and Mickey and popeye Might have been the inspiration for super Mario and felix and mickey might have been the inspiration for sonic the hedgehog.
Without a doubt, the inspiration is there, at least in terms of design, if not characterization. Sonic has more of an original personality, but is definitely cut from the same cloth as 30s toon stars.
The Sonic thing at least is certain, in that he (or at least his prototypes) was partially based on characters like Felix and Mickey he was basically a toon character in 90s clothing
This is great! Thank you for this video! I cant wait to watch the others. I grew up on older cartoon like this. So nostalgic for me💕 I very much enjoy knowing more about movies and cartoons of this time. It's my favorite era by far! ETA: Its so awesome to see more behind the names I grew up reading in the credits of all these cartoons that filled my mornings and afternoons in the 80s💕
I love sooo much of this because you are telling the story right ... years ago i saw one documentary where i was shocked that Friz and the ising brothers were both working for disney in their beginnings... i had no idea of that ... you are tracing the story back enough and tell all the details i love this too now get a understanding picture what really happened to split this group ... i love it sooo much
Stumbled on this by accident thanks to the TH-cam recommendations....fantastic job. And yet depresses me in a way at how 2D hand drawn animation has more or less be kicked to the curb since day 1 and gets no respect beyond oh that's just for kiddies or can only be done as anime or gross out comedy for adults.
Unfortunately, Hugh Harmon's dislike of bosses and control would...be one of many things apart of his downfall. Reading on Hugh Harmon's story Post Cartoon work is fucking depressing.
Truly exceptional work up there with some of the top talent producing long-form popular culture documentaries on TH-cam. I'd put this alongside Defunctland's work, and not just because of the Disney connection.
I've always hated the accusations of "racism" or "blackface" for early Bosko. For one thing, visually he looked exactly like most major cartoon characters of that black & white era, mostly-black body with a partially white face, so that you could see his features and expressions better. Secondly, while I know early on he had a "stereotypically black" accent, for one thing, he was initially conceived as a non-human character, just a cartoon creature. Secondly, even as a "little black boy", he, as well as Honey, for their era were actually very balanced and positive depictions of blacks in media. Bosko certainly isn't as iconic or classic as WB's stars that would follow him, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny. But he deserves love and recognition. He was still a key part of animation history, and for a few years in the 30s, Bosko cartoons were almost as popular as Mickey Mouse cartoons.
Because these early cartoons were black and white, they had to color the characters black to stand out against a mostly white background, not for any race-based reason. Most of the characters had mostly black bodies and faces, because that was the only color available. White doesn't show up well against a white background. Also note that Bosko is the protagonist, the star, the hero, of these cartoons. He's the character the audience is meant to relate to and cheer for. There is no hatred of black people depicted here. There was another character called Bosko (or was it simply a later evolution of the same character?) - a black kid, more "realistically" drawn. Pretty much every episode was him being sent by his mother to go do some errand, and along the way, he would get into some adventure, usually fueled by his own imagination. Am I correct that these later Bosko cartoons are descended from the ones depicted in this video?
Minstrels (Bosko being one) were NOT positive depictions of black Americans in popular culture. Boskin, Joseph. Sambo: The Rise and Demise of an American Jester. New York: Oxford University Press, 1986. Lott, Eric. Love and Theft: Blackface Minstrelsy and the American Working Class. New York: Oxford University Press, 2013. Sammond, Nicholas. Birth of an Industry: Blackface Minstrelsy and the Rise of American Animation. Durham: Duke University Press, 2015.
These Snowflake Sjws scream for diversity then scream racism when they get it, then ruins everything for everyone. Double Standards! No sense of humour! That's why we can't have shit now. Pc "censore culture" is communism!
Excellent historical video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. I still have some of those early reel-to-reel cartoons and remember watching them as a child. During the early 1930s, Leon Schlesinger also produced six early John Wayne Westerns.
@@k-dogg9086 john Wayne got started in films, initially Westerns, during the early 1930s after finishing his education at USC. Leon Schlesinger produced six of John Waynes early Westerns between about 1932 and 1935. During that time, Leon continued to also produced cartoons.
Seeing all the early characters, I can't help but notice no matter what they all did look very similar to Mickey and Minnie, even smaller characters looking similar to Felix The Cat. What a journey to what became the Looney Tunes we know and love! A very excellent and thorough documentary!
I was looking for Looney Tunes episodes and your video was one of the recommendations middle towards the bottom. I got interested, especially after reading - on Wikipedia 🤦🏻♀️ - about their history, and when I heard the names of the artists I recognized them. I really enjoyed this episode and I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes. Amazing job!👏🏻
9:15 using Baccano tracks eh? You got a sub from me. Baccano is arguably one of the bests animes to come out inspired by these gentlemen, the fact that you used it for this makes me respect you as Baccano's my favourite anime of all time. 🤣
Everyone going "Oh My GoOdNeSs tHiS KiDs sHoW hAs GuNs AnD sAyS bAd WoRdS" when they don't realise that Loony tunes actually wasn't for kids originally. It only became directed at kids in the 60s and Loony tunes started in the 30s. There are episodes encouraging men to join the army because the war was still going on!
You’re watching this video and your comment is full of outright falsehoods like that the looney tunes started in the 1940s… when the video covers the history. They started in 1930 dude. You clearly haven’t watched this video. Most of it takes place in the 30s with the cartoons still black and white.
@@lookoutforchris Okay jeez calm down, what do you want me to do apologize? The Looney tunes was never a kid's show. It was directed at all audiences, mostly adults
I've just come back to this for the second time in about a month, and this documentary is just terrific. Only now do I notice it's gonna be an 8 part doc. Goodness knows how long that'll take, but I'll be waiting, right here for it. (Looks at watch)
I get the feeling the next few episodes will cover these topics: Part 2: Buddy, Porky Pig, Egghead, Daffy Duck, and cartoon depictions of celebrities. Part 3: Elmer Fudd, Sniffles, Bugs Bunny, Tweety, and World War II. Part 4: Pepe Le Pew, Sylvester, Foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, and the Censored Eleven. So how close am I?
Dude this documentary is sooo well put together! This deserves way more views, likes, and subscriptions to the channel!! I hate how people won’t subscribe even though it’s free to do so! Like wtf!!
30:22 Goofy was originally called "Dippy Dwag" ( you can see it in "Ye Olden Days" ) but was later refered to as "The Goof" and some time later he was officially named Goofy.
So, you’re telling me that two guys started an animation studio that specialised in cartoons specifically based around music, and their names were Harman and Ising, and they DIDN’T call themselves Harmonising studios?
Harman-Ising. Phonetically identical...
@@RogerBarraud Yes.
...damn, never thought of that.
I've always wondered about that. They're competing with "Silly Symphonies", "Looney Tunes", "Merrie Melodies", and they *don't* call themselves Harman-Ising? Bizarre!
I guess that they either never thought of it, or didn't want to make it look like they were competing against one another, what with Harman's name having to come first with a name like that. But I mean... it works SO well, that I wouldn't have minded my name coming second if I were Ising.
"Smile, Darn Ya, Smile"...
Suddenly, I understand why they used that song for the ending of Who Framed Roger Rabbit...
That is a DEEP CUT on their part.
That movie was the BEST and it finally brought both worlds together. Looney Toons and Disney. I'm surprised Disney did this considering their revelry with their Looney Toons competitors. And I wonder if LT had a hand to making that film as well. Must have been great fun for all involved.
A deep cut on LT by Disney?? How??
@@k-dogg9086 It wasn't just those two studios, either--there were cameos by characters from a bunch of others. From a modern perspective, forget the *technical* obstacles--the legal/business maneuvering required to make it seems almost unimaginable.
I love how Ising thought the best way to get rid of Foxy and Roxy was to have a random character pop up from the ground and shoot them to death.
This way they canonically die
me: why have i never heard of this character before?
bosko: **talks**
me: oh
I watched one of his cartoons, "Bosko's Store," which may not be a typical episode for him. It was rough on him, though. But maybe I just feel that way because I never really watched Tom & Jerry.
It's a pre-code cartoon. A little dog steals sausage from Bosko and then gets chopped up in a fan.... And then gets re-assembled without death.
And then I think either the same dog (or maybe a mouse) goes into a meat grinder, then gets ground up into tiny versions of himself...
Oh, and near the end, one character (an evil baby) pulls barbed wire up through Bosko's legs and against his crotch. He's certainly got his hands more than full here.
@@101Volts plus there was also the fact that Bosko was racist due to black face.
15:36 🫠
@@mariafox9226 yeah but they toned down the racism after the animation test short. Idk if you’ve seen it but they REALLY push it on you that he’s a black stereotype in that one.
@@cursorguy I'm sorry to way this but it's true. Stereotypes of all peoples nations and ethnicities exist, and for a reason. If people can't laugh as these then people are not really free at all. As long as its not insulting slandering or false accusations, it should be fine. But people then and especially now don't have a sense of humour and just want to bully and control others.. Notice this "censor culture" of today by a bunch of two-faced hypocrite self-righteous way too sensitive sjw Snowflakes. And this is communism and not freedom of speech assembly or press.
Also the main villain of the Alice shorts has remained with us from then up until today antagonizing Oswald and his friends and later on Mickey and his friends
It’s Pete the bear/cat/rabbit/dog (they’ve flip flopped on that quite a bit they might as well make him a mutant hybrid of all of those things)
I do believe he's officially a cat. He did have "hybrid" kids in Goof Troop.
And would also become the right hand man to Maleficent in Kingdom Hearts, gaining the ability to control literal beings of darkness capable of destroying worlds.
...you know, typing that out made realize, again, that this game is just a tad bit weird.
Great, the way you wrote your comment got me thinking about Chowder, a bear/cat/rabbit.
Pete: Now, mouse, I’m the oldest one of your crew!
I’m leading the gang.
Pretty sure they ripped ol pete straight from Popeye.....
Sometimes I feel alone in being an anime lover while also being a fan of western animation too. Western animation fans always rag on how "badly animated" anime is, and anime fans always riff on western animation for being like "noodle arms and dancing flowers". Is it so strange to like both but for very different reasons??
Anyway, looking forward to seeing more from this series! :D I'm so excited!
You're not alone. I love FLCL AND SpongeBob
I'm so glad I'm not the only one. Thank you internet.
Don't be sad.
You're not alone.
I love Cartoons and Anime equally.
Your not alone, I love the old classic Hollywood animation, particularly Warner Brothers and Tex Avery's stuff - lots of timeless comedy gags out of these shorts.
For modern stuff I just like animation in general that does something different it just so happens that Japan produces more of it. (Though I do think things have gotten a lot safer recently over there and really miss the experimentation of the 80s-early 2000s.)
Liking both western and eastern animation just means you like animation more.
Bosko makes a surprise appearance in a 1990 episode, "Fields of Honey", of the television series Tiny Toon Adventures, in which Babs Bunny, after being told by the Acme Looniversity's mysterious vaultkeeper about Honey (voiced by B. J. Ward), is led by a mysterious voice to build a theater that shows nothing but cartoons of Bosko's girlfriend, Honey. Babs does so, and the resulting audience laughter rejuvenates the ailing Honey and reveals the voice, as well as the vaultkeeper to be none other than Bosko (voiced by Don Messick) himself.
Curiously, the cartoon depicts Bosko and Honey as dog-like creatures similar to the lead characters of the later TV show Animaniacs, presumably so as not to offend viewers with the original black-face characterizations. Another reason may be that this episode served as a "bridge" between Tiny Toons Adventures and Animaniacs. Not only are Honey and Bosko redesigned to be dog-like characters, but Honey is funnier and has more personality.
Legitimately like the new designs better, but understand the time period had different ideals
Also, Foxy, Roxy, and Goopy Geer return in the Tiny Toons episode Two-Tone Town. Buster and Babs help them become popular again.
I always thought they were created for the show, never knew they were real characters!
@@malikharris5828 Foxy and Roxy were used as the Basis for the Animaniacs Concept and Served as a Secret Pitch.
Yup. I remember. Aired December 7,1990. Mainly because Bosko Cartoons were being shown on Nickelodeon at the time during "Looeny Tunes on Nick at Nite" in 1988-1990.
I was expecting this to be brought up at the end. I didn't knew about the original Bosko shorts, but as soon as I saw the thumbnail and tittle I thought "hey, didn't he appear in that Tiny Toon episode?" specially after I saw Honey.
Really glad to have had this documentary recommended to me. It is well put-together and talks about one of my favorite unknown cartoon characters. I remember watching Bosko cartoons as a kid. Really great animation history lesson! :)
How old are you?
@@MichaelTurner856 He probably watched the Bosko shorts back when Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon was a Nick at Nite show that aired black and white cartoons (mid-to-late 1980s).
@@canaisyoung3601 oh 🤣 OK thanks for the info! I never knew they did that.
I like how the thumbnail is from "Bosko's Picture Show" which is the episode where Bosko clearly says the F word
41:36
That dirty f*ck!!!!
fuck - it.
@Vinluv Handesbukia clearly
@@kobaltsteel6418 Thank you! I have hearing loss and I could not make out what was said.
Harman-Ising
Harmonizing
That pun is too perfect to be a coincidence.
I remember I was watching that Bosko cartoon he first appeared in with my grandpa and as soon as the animator drew Bosko on that paper I was like “aww, a monkey with clothes” and my grandpa had the most pissed off look on his face as soon as I said that 😂 I was 8 and didn’t know much about stereotypes.
What year was that
I used to think he was a monkey as a kid too until I learned more about history
@@jcharmaine1 I'd say 2000, that was the first time "Bosko, the Talk-Ink Kid" had been seen publicly for 70 years up until it was shown on Cartoon Network's Toonheads: The Lost Cartoons! They may have shown it again after though, and it was also on a Looney Tunes DVD collection as well.
@@y2kosmo233 ok
You are not alone. 😂 I still cringe when I think about six year old me singing along with the Jim Crowe character from Dumbo 🥴
Harmon: We may animate Shakespeare stories one day!
1994: LION KING
I don't recall Shakespeare having musical showtunes.
@@TheMrPeteChannel the lion king is based off of Hamlet.
@@mariafox9226 Lion King is based on/stolen from Kimba The White Lion.
@@TheMrPeteChannel the characters are actually based on Hamlet. While the fact that the characters are lions was stolen by Kimba the storyline and characters are based on Hamlet.
@@mariafox9226ok then.
This is like Defunctland Meet's the Toonheads Block from Cartoon Network.
they are,wicked times. this is true.
you remember toon heads!!!!
@@childof83 Was that the show on Cartoon Network talking about really ancient and historical cartoons of obscurity from way, way back when? If so, I think I remember it.
I won't lie, I'm super impressed with the idea that the first ever piece of animation was done alongside live action.
Not just live action, a live PERFORMANCE!
Though it wasn't the first animated film. There'd been several before it, including several more by Windsor McKay, but none were as influential as Gertie.
Fun fact: his studio was in the neighborhood where I grew up.
@@gabe_s_videos Though, some other oft-touted "first" animations, Fantasmagorie and Humorous Phases of Funny Faces, also made use of live actio. It's an interestingly common trope in early works.
@@Shoobster I love Humorous Phases of Funny Faces! A lot of those films were also more spectacle than anything, like a magic trick. Gertie was like that as well, but there was more of an emphasis on character with her.
Sometimes i forget how most things that are fresh now, maybe existed before, not in the same way, but they already were there
Wish I had this during history of animation class, beautifully edited and wonderfully engaging.
Its almost criminal that someone who does work this good doesn't have more subscribers
For years I assumed Harman and Ising were stage names specifically chosen because together they sound like "harmonizing" and that there was no way those could be their REAL names because the real world is never that neat and tidy. And yet here we are.
Its kind of funny that this historic time in animation was akin to an OC war. (Oswald led to Mickey, Foxy/Roxy and Bosko/Honey shared similarities to Mickey and Minnie, as well as Goofy with Goopy Geer, etc.) I guess some things never change lol.
My favourites are Daffy and Donald ducks, both these ducks are cute and funny, crazy and tempermental, egotistical and crude.. with Daffy being more manic than Donald though.. and Donald more vengeful than Daffy. But clearly their spinoffs of one another.
Felix:
There's something so surreal in finding out how connected all these old animation studios were in one way or another, hearing all these names you would have never imagined shared the same roof with one another at various points
Harman and Ising used that "open mouth lunging toward the camera" gag for a surprisingly long time--as far forward as 1937.
Hello. I just saw this video for the first time, and I appreciate your reference to Jack Zander's letter to me. Thank you so much for including it. Good job on the video!
This mini-series is outstanding. I never learned so much about the beginnings of cartoons. Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for your research.
12:42 glad to know that animators treating each other like crap is a tradition that goes back to the dawn of times.
Growing up in the 1950s our local, small-market TV station ran old cartoons all day Saturday with some Laurel & Hardy movies and old westerns in the afternoons. I think I have seen every Looney Tunes or Merrie Melodies 'tune a hundred times!
It really is a shame that Bosko has been effectively shelved from broadcast or reintroduction into modern Looney Tunes renditions aside from brief cameos. Sure he was really an attempt to cash in on the popularity of Mickey Mouse, but I honestly believe to this day watching both the Bosko Cartoons and the old B&W Mickey Cartoons that Bosko was funnier most of the time and would show more emotion like sadness or anger making him just a bit more relatable.
Disney decided about halfway through Mickey's B&W era to gear the cartoons more towards younger kids and he stayed that way for all the rest of his animated shorts. Bosko and all the Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies in general have almost always geared more towards older kids and especially adults. They have always been edgier and more willing to step up or even over the line (at least until recent projects).
Bosko did start off as a stereotype and that unfortunately can never be denied, but he was quickly made less and less obvious a stereotype through a voice change and how he was drawn. If the character had been retained you probably would have seen him become more of an anthropomorphic creature of some sort and definitely in many color short films at Warner.
The worst thing that could have happened unfortunately did, when his character rights were lost and Harman and Ising (his owners and creators) decided to move to MGM and do a more blatantly racist stereotype voice, hair, and all. His character was completely done away with after only nine shorts and only seven after they completely changed his and honey's appearance and voice. So sad an end to Bosko. There are still some of us that genuinely love and enjoy the character. The original Looney Tune Bosko look and sound of course.
I did like what they did for Bosko and Honey's last appearance though, in the Tiny Toons show, to further him and Honey from that stereotype but still retain the overall appearance and personality of the characters. Too bad things are so bad now that no one at Warner Brother's would ever want to take another chance on the character making a new appearance. I honestly think modern kids would absolutely love Bosko and Honey.
Bosko started as a racist caricature. He wouldn't work today.
When I saw that demo reel of Bosko on one of my Looney Tunes Gold Collection DVDs, I said to myself, "What brand of ink pen is that? I want one of those." I was a practicing artist at the time.
Roxy was officially named in tiny toon adventures. Like how Oswald's girlfriend ortensia wasn't named until 2010's epic mickey video game.
Her name was Sadie before Disney changed it to Ortensia
Please no one listen to the above 2 comments. This is a scam, and they always comment in pairs so that the second comment makes the first one sound more legit because it's supposedly coming from a different person.
@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 How are we scams?
We're different people and both right.
@@buster3041 You're misunderstanding. There were two other commenters promoting a fake free streaming service who have since been flagged as spam which is why you no longer see them.
Oswald was stolen from Disney!
Nickelodeon started airing Looney Tunes sometime in the late 80's. It was my first exposure to Bosko & Honey. I remember thinking they weren't bad. They weren't Bugs Bunny, but they were decent. (What made it more fun was when Tiny Toons had a Honey & Bosko episode several years later because I had the context.) Then Nick would air a Buddy cartoon. Let's just say I got a lot of my assigned chores done while Buddy was playing. Buddy cartoons were as exciting as dry dog food.
I'm really glad you're doing this series. I loved the Looney Tunes growing up, and this is shaping up to be a great series.
Also, if you need some booze to get you through the mid-to-late 60s WB Cartoons, I'll be happy to provide.
I went though all of 'em once before. I can do it again.
The booze hangs high
Norman Normal though is really interesting - though its literally a needle in a haystack.
@@KaiserBeamz Bravo
I’ve seen some of them, and I’ll be honest. They aren’t THAT bad.
Awesome! this is like Defunctland for LooneyTunes. Hope for more Looney Tunes Warner Bros goodness to come. My faves are Bugs Bunny cartoons. Bosko is a very interesting early Looney Tunes star.
Defunctland was what I was going for here.
@@KaiserBeamzYeah just as i thought. Also, when will we learn more about Harman and Ising at MGM and their later years, as well as starting the termite terrace era of Looney Tunes and Marries Melodies WB cartoons?
Yes,it feels like defunctland
Already expressed how much I enjoyed this on Twitter, but for the sake of the algorithm, this is really great stuff and you got yourself a new subscriber :)
poparena thank you for recommending this on your Twitter! I’ve been studying LT/MM history for the past 20 years and I thought this was very well made and a brilliant video to watch. I love your work on Nick Knacks BTW. Keep up the great work!
And thank you for introducing me to this series. I just saw your Looney Tunes on Nick video, and that led me here.
I have this Looney Tune up on my channel, remastered to 1080P! th-cam.com/video/jk06B8hD4f8/w-d-xo.html
Friz Feleng Was The Longest Looney Tunes Director Since 1929-1994 before his passing in 1995.
A huge thank you for putting in the effort to share the love and enthusiasm for animation history. It's a good way for people to get a much-needed deeper dive into animation appreciation. Keep up the good work.
You got great taste in animation! Old anime and golden age western animation!
There's an interesting gag at the end of "Bosko the Doughboy" which indicates that Harman and Ising's idea of what Bosko *was* had changed somewhat since they created him. :-)
Nicholas Sammond, after describing Mickey's blacking himself up via an explosion writes: That in 1933 they seemed white enough that they needed to blacken up in order to clearly read as minstrels speaks to the state of animation at the dawn of sound film: they had become vestigial minstrels, carrying the tokens of blackface minstrelsy in their bodies and behaviors yet no longer immediately signifying as such. Nicholas Sammond, Birth of an Industry: Blackface Minstrelsy and the Rise of American Animation (Durham: Duke University Press, 2015), 3.
it's a blackface gag. and he always supposed to be a black kid unfortunately. they never changed him. he was only changed in animaniacs (and glad he was) cuz that was more modern and bosko hadn't been used in decades. wouldn't call that an interesting gag. it was shitty and overdone trope and an unfortunate product of that time.
@@MsDudette21 I meant it's interesting because it implied that Harman and Ising had forgotten, or changed their minds, that Bosko was supposed to be a blackface caricature the rest of the time. I didn't mean the gag itself was interesting, it's more the fact that it exists that is interesting.
@@jvgreendarmok well doing that gag to me just amplifies the fact he's a black kid more. they intentionally made him look nonhuman cuz heaven forbid black people be seen as actual humans. some ppl thought bosko was a monkey. also there were only 7 shorts when bosko and honey got a makeover where they looked like actual black kids. strangely enough, they were negatively received and they retired bosko.
despite still being stereotypically racist, i find it interesting that people all of a sudden didnt like the new bosko because he was now obviously black. it was the 30s so people were still openly racist then so i highly doubt it was cuz it made them feel guilty to find that funny.
@@MsDudette21 That type of gag is usually used on non-Black characters who temporarily get their faces blackened.
I wonder what it would have been like if Harman and Ising DID get those bigger budgets they asked of Schlesinger... what would both series be like? Would they follow suit of Disney, with more Silly Symphonies-like directions, or would they eventually develop their more insane humor-driven directions? Or would they just spin-off into completley different directions? What would Bosko look like; would he keep his inkblot look or evolve into the design he eventually got during his time at MGM?
It's one of life's greatest mysteries...
this is incredible, seriously, these guys were in real life like b-movie caricatures of themselves, and all of the names I remember from childhood. amazing job.
This is so well put together, thank you. I can't wait to see more! Definitely deserves more views!
With Animaniacs returning soon this has really shed some light on some of their visual and historical inspirations and references like Bosko and Buddy. The history of Warner Bros animation in general is fascinating.
I've had Bosko in my head since the Toonheads episode about him and Foxy from long, long ago, and I could never quite find the whole story all in one place. Glad to finally get it all these years later, this is great!
This is the most underrated documentary series I have ever seen on TH-cam. It is well made and I hope someone can give you more recognition for this.
Thank you so much for making a full comprehensive guide to the Looney Tunes! This makes alot of us fans real happy! Seeing the birth of our favourites is a real treat! I love Bosko and the ground work he laid for future stars. He maybe controversial but he built the foundations for what would be an international success!
I love Bosko even more now that I learn he's "controversial" because people seriously need a sense of humour and a damn life. I NEVER got any racist themes watching those cartoons!
5:47
This scene escalated quickly O_O
Could you cover the rest of Bosko’s history
His episodes in happy harmonies including the dreadful MGM redesign, and of course whatever deal lead to Warner Bros getting him back for his very brief cameos in tiny tunes, space jam and animaniacs
I would suspect one of 4 things about the Bosko rights. A, eventually the rights ended up in the public domain. B Harman and Ising sold the rights to Sunset Productions for television, and eventually the rights were transferred to Warner Brothers. Or C they sold the rights to Warner directly. With MGM and later Turner keeping the rights to his MGM shorts. Or they sold the rights of the character to MGM but the not the black and white shorts until Sunset enter the picture.
@@stephenholloway6893 but how did WB get the looney toons characters of porky of bugs bunny and daddy daffy duck if Harmon and Izing created them?? We always see the WB logo on these cartoons.
@@k-dogg9086 When Leon Schesinger sold the animation studio to Warner Brothers the names of the series of shorts and characters went with it. Far as the copyrights to the characters and trademarks for the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies. Though he had to get Harman and Ising to give him the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies names before they left..
@@stephenholloway6893 oh, ok I got it now.. he sold the studio and trademarks and characters to WB, but before he did got the creators to sign it over to him for legality. But Schesinger produced these, the contracts he signed with Harmon and Izing gave him permission to do so.. they were the private contractors as rights holders, and the producer produced and distributed their works for them. K Got it 👍 😆
@@k-dogg9086 Basically yes. Up til Leon sold the studio Warner just distribute the shorts. Same with the Harman Ising era. The reason why Bosko no longer appeared in anymore WB shorts after 1933 for example was because Harman and Ising kept the rights to him and eventually began making new Bosko shorts at MGM.
Huh, I watched Some tiny toons awhile back and they referenced Bosco and Honey and I thought they were made up for the cartoon. Neat to know they were real.
Yup. Tiny toons gave them, foxy, roxy and goopy geer a proper goodbye.
At least there Honey and Bosco were dogs, too...
@@TheHeroOfTomorrow That was before the inspiration for “The Animaniacs”.
I know right? It's really trippy to realize that these characters actually existed...
@@buster3041 They forgot Piggy and Female Piggy.
I remember Bosco and Honey in a Tiny Toon Adventures episode where Babs was trying to find her heroine! Buster had Bugs, Plucky had Daffy, and so on. Good episode covering the origins Loony Tunes!
Bosko shouting, "That dirty fuck!" just kinda makes me like him more. The balls that had to take at the time. I prefer the 1990's Tiny Toons redesign though.
I think it makes sense that one of the first talking cartoons had to have a bit of a funny voice for animators to have something to latch onto, and practices like making the character all-black to speed up animation and keeping the face white for expressions had already been established, so there's kind of an inevitability to his design
This video is amazing. You not only did your research, you are teaching animation history the right way!
(Animation History should be told through the eyes of the artists that worked on the films.)
True but historians also have to contextualize it.
Bosko was like “imagine washing dishes 🤣 #CouldntBeMe”
Honey: OK Bosko, I'll wash and you dry the dishes. Wise guy.
Classic Cartoon.
then Porky Pig came after Bosko to put Loony Tunes on the map with the help of Warner Brothers.
then Duffy Duck came after Porky pig then Bugs Bunny came around after Daffy Duck.
so this is not all folks yet it's only the beging with the cartoon History.
see you for the next one soon.
Buddy next then Beans and then Porky.
@@stephenholloway6893 cool.
One of the things I liked about Warner Brothers was that they brought Bosko and Honey back as a cameo in an episode of Tiny Tunes. I also think for a while during their Looney Tunes block Nickelodeon showed a few of the Bosko cartoons if I remember right.
The Bosco and Honey cameo in a “Tiny Toons” episode were inspired to create another spinoff series called “Animaniacs”.
First impression of Bosko: Awww what a cute.....ohhhhhhh that voice....
yeah i was interested until 20 min in when i heard the voice & realized it's a stereotype -_-
You know there was allot of people who sounded like that in certain parts of the USA at the time. Funny how when Pepe LePew speaks in a French accent or when Mario speaks in an Italian accent it's never an issue.
@@TheMrPeteChannel I don't think French and Italian accents stopped people from getting jobs or being seen as illiterate and stupid. Some stereotypes bring more harm than others. Also he was copyright registered as 'negro boy'
-_-
@@brooksie3320 Back then if a person heard an Italian or French accent that meant one thing to the average American at that time....."a foreign Catholic immigrant here to take my job". Now I'll admit most didn't have it as bad as African Americans but still.
When Nickelodeon ran the Bosko cartoons in the late 1980s, Bosko had a very different voice. This was quite shocking.
26:22 is a printed ad for a Brunswick radio with Panatrope phonograph in which Brunswick inked the deal with WB where they manufactured Panotrope phonographs like Victor did with the Victrola phonographs, and then later put out records by many artists. Unfortunately, Brunswick ended the WB deal by the early 1930’s and went independent, and by the 1940’s, Brunswick made a distribution deal with Decca where it remained until the late 1960’s when Decca ended the deal, and Brunswick went back as an independent label again into the 1970’s and 1980’s.
Brunswick started as a jazz, and then later became a R&B label with such great artists including Jackie Wilson, Barbara Acklin, Young Holt Unlimited, and the Chi-Lites.
This channel needs more recognition
Hearing the names of important animation icons after being built up dramatically for a few seconds is super satisfying to me for some reason.
Funny how your memory can get jogged, but, after watching this I now recall that back in the early 90's, Nickelodeon would run a 30 minute block of Warner Bros. cartoons at various times in the schedule, enough for 4 standard shorts, and the second one shown was always, ALWAYS a Bosko short..... or Buddy.
Me: Invested on the long, detailed history of these animators and is refreshed to hear of Disney’s flaws after he’s been deified for so long. At the 15:15 mark “His name, was Bosco.” I get even more excited because I remember that’s what I clicked this video for.
Been loving these. Reminds me of the Defunct Land channel in the best possible way.
Yikes, I always felt that Looney Tunes were initiated talented racists 🙄
@@Tonabillity you ppl are the type that sees racism everywhere and ruins shit for everyone so that we can't have a thing let alone a sense of humour! 🙄
@@k-dogg9086 LOL “You ppl” 😂
@@Tonabillity 🤣 Yes but generally though.. lol
In times as today we need to learn how to laugh.. and I'm laughing! Ha!
@@k-dogg9086 Apparently
The moment Bosko spoke.
Oooo noooooooo
😬
"... proceeds to tap-dance and sing."
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At least they changed it later thank god.
@The BronyCrafters that"s exactly what i said lmfao
After all of this, they end up making a sequel to Space Jam.
Yeah unfortunately
And unlike the OG Space Jam, this one was literally algorithmic trash.
@@jayjay86443 thats AL. G RHYTHM TO YOU, SIR! *flips scarf*
@@MsDudette21
And he’s a greedy idiot.
I finally watched it last night, and it really was more awful that i could have imagined. I actually like the first movie, and even Back in Action, for whatever that' worth, but A New Legacy was so terrible i really can't believe it. The only scenes that felt remotely funny, or anything LIKE Looney Tunes was the slo-mo Roadrunner and Coyote gag, and i liked the Porky Pig rap scene for just how ironically hilarious it was that it actually made it into the film, i couldn't believe what i was seeing... Notorious P.I.G., lmao.
I first saw Bosko in one of those VHS cassettes with like 100 cartoons on it. I love those old cartoons.
Took the words right outta my mouth😂
I'm here re-starting the series after watching the most recent episode. This channel should have more subscribers! This is FANTASTIC work!
I know, it's shocking how under-viewed these professional looking documentaries are.
I've shared em' around - all I can hope is that he'll get a future video that strikes the algorithm's fancy.
Nice video! Kaiser. You taught me some stuff that I didn’t even know about! Also, a note: In late 1929. After his stint in KC (again) and working for the jerk known as George Winkler, moved to NYC (the animation capital of the time) to work for the Harrison-Gould studio. in which Charles Mintz, M.J. Winkler, and Columbia Pictures. Were distributing at the time. Freleng didn’t like his time working for the studio and only took the job so that he can support family back home in the Midwest. In early 1930, Once Harman and Ising wrote to Friz that their Bosko cartoon got accepted by Schlesinger. Moved back to LA to work for his friends back in the sunshine state. Speaking of Harrison-Gould. The two, alongside the rest of his staff (animators Art Davis, Al Rose, and Harry Love and musical director. Joe DeNat) moved to a building also in LA while animating one of their Krazy Kat shorts on a private Railcar whilst traveling on train. Manny Gould would later be one of the more wackier animators who also used the old NY method of Straight-Ahead as opposed to having breakdown artists, inbetweeners. And clean-up/assistants. and on another note, Ben Clopton. A Montana Cowpoke who got in controversy with his relationship with the body double of Hedy LaMarr. Also worked for Disney, Harrison-Gould, Iwerks, and Leon Schlesinger Productions alongside other studios
0:00: Gertie the Dinosuar and Windsor McCay
1:36: Six Young Men
2:33: Opening Sequence
3:04: We Open in Kansas City
6:54: Let's go to L.A.
8:12: Charles Mintz
12:06: Goodbye, Disney
15:16: Meet Bosko
18:52: Hello, Schlesinger
21:14: Bosko in the Bathtub
23:17: Bosko Kind of Sucks (or Does He?)
26:20: Merrie Melodies
31:53: Bosko the Star
34:05: '32 and '33
37:23: Under the Surface of Looney Tunes
40:49: Harman and Ising Leave
See, this is the quality of documentaries that ought to be on the History Channel! Well done!! Very enjoyable!
genuinely shocked at the professional delivery of this! well-edited, informative and engaging VERY well done!
It all started with a dinosaur! *NOT A MOUSE!!!*
Actually the first cartoon was created in 1906 and the first appearance of mickey mouse was in plane crazy.
@@kaitlynwhalen5961 yeah and the First sound cartoon was Stem Boat Willy in the 1920's there about .
@@sethcarlow8363 Nah the first sound cartoon was made by Max Fleischer 4 years before Steamboat Willie with Follow the Bouncing Ball.
@@Squeam9750 thanks for the info and have a nice Wacky Cartoon week and weekend.
Plus Paul Terry released a sound short before Disney. Dinner Time a few months prior, starting Farmer Alfalfa.
The Disney Studio in Kansas City MO was in the process of being restored when a drunk driver slammed into it a few years ago. I don't recall hearing anything about the driver having ever been found......
Great job. As a historian and a kid at heart, I loved seeing and hearing the story behind our beloved cartoons.
Bosko and Mickey and popeye Might have been the inspiration for super Mario and felix and mickey might have been the inspiration for sonic the hedgehog.
Without a doubt, the inspiration is there, at least in terms of design, if not characterization. Sonic has more of an original personality, but is definitely cut from the same cloth as 30s toon stars.
The Sonic thing at least is certain, in that he (or at least his prototypes) was partially based on characters like Felix and Mickey
he was basically a toon character in 90s clothing
Dude, this is amazing. I'm a historian on the side and you've explained this beautifully
Goofy being a joke/parody to Goopy Gear and becoming one of Disney's most beloved characters isn't talked about enough
Around 20:00 people got beat for turning in work late
Tiny Toon Adventures did a wonderful homage to Bosco and Honey.
This is great! Thank you for this video! I cant wait to watch the others. I grew up on older cartoon like this. So nostalgic for me💕
I very much enjoy knowing more about movies and cartoons of this time. It's my favorite era by far!
ETA: Its so awesome to see more behind the names I grew up reading in the credits of all these cartoons that filled my mornings and afternoons in the 80s💕
This was so good! I can see this being shown during animation history class
The 90th Anniversary Of The First Looney Tunes Short is a couple weeks away!
I love sooo much of this because you are telling the story right ... years ago i saw one documentary where i was shocked that Friz and the ising brothers were both working for disney in their beginnings... i had no idea of that ... you are tracing the story back enough and tell all the details i love this too now get a understanding picture what really happened to split this group ... i love it sooo much
Nice to know about Disney's early days.
Stumbled on this by accident thanks to the TH-cam recommendations....fantastic job. And yet depresses me in a way at how 2D hand drawn animation has more or less be kicked to the curb since day 1 and gets no respect beyond oh that's just for kiddies or can only be done as anime or gross out comedy for adults.
Unfortunately, Hugh Harmon's dislike of bosses and control would...be one of many things apart of his downfall.
Reading on Hugh Harmon's story Post Cartoon work is fucking depressing.
he lived in poverty before death, that's very unfortunate
Truly exceptional work up there with some of the top talent producing long-form popular culture documentaries on TH-cam. I'd put this alongside Defunctland's work, and not just because of the Disney connection.
I've always hated the accusations of "racism" or "blackface" for early Bosko. For one thing, visually he looked exactly like most major cartoon characters of that black & white era, mostly-black body with a partially white face, so that you could see his features and expressions better. Secondly, while I know early on he had a "stereotypically black" accent, for one thing, he was initially conceived as a non-human character, just a cartoon creature. Secondly, even as a "little black boy", he, as well as Honey, for their era were actually very balanced and positive depictions of blacks in media.
Bosko certainly isn't as iconic or classic as WB's stars that would follow him, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny. But he deserves love and recognition. He was still a key part of animation history, and for a few years in the 30s, Bosko cartoons were almost as popular as Mickey Mouse cartoons.
Because these early cartoons were black and white, they had to color the characters black to stand out against a mostly white background, not for any race-based reason. Most of the characters had mostly black bodies and faces, because that was the only color available. White doesn't show up well against a white background.
Also note that Bosko is the protagonist, the star, the hero, of these cartoons. He's the character the audience is meant to relate to and cheer for. There is no hatred of black people depicted here.
There was another character called Bosko (or was it simply a later evolution of the same character?) - a black kid, more "realistically" drawn. Pretty much every episode was him being sent by his mother to go do some errand, and along the way, he would get into some adventure, usually fueled by his own imagination. Am I correct that these later Bosko cartoons are descended from the ones depicted in this video?
I came to the comments looking for an explanation of this. Thanks for answering my question!
Minstrels (Bosko being one) were NOT positive depictions of black Americans in popular culture.
Boskin, Joseph. Sambo: The Rise and Demise of an American Jester. New York: Oxford University Press, 1986.
Lott, Eric. Love and Theft: Blackface Minstrelsy and the American Working Class. New York: Oxford University Press, 2013.
Sammond, Nicholas. Birth of an Industry: Blackface Minstrelsy and the Rise of American Animation. Durham: Duke University Press, 2015.
These Snowflake Sjws scream for diversity then scream racism when they get it, then ruins everything for everyone. Double Standards! No sense of humour! That's why we can't have shit now. Pc "censore culture" is communism!
@@Rhythmicons Thanks for the research notes. Except Bosko is NOT a "minstrel" character. Cheers though.
Excellent historical video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. I still have some of those early reel-to-reel cartoons and remember watching them as a child. During the early 1930s, Leon Schlesinger also produced six early John Wayne Westerns.
30s?? I thought John Wayne was in the 60s
@@k-dogg9086 john Wayne got started in films, initially Westerns, during the early 1930s after finishing his education at USC. Leon Schlesinger produced six of John Waynes early Westerns between about 1932 and 1935. During that time, Leon continued to also produced cartoons.
These animation-history videos of yours are just awesome! Thank you for what must have been a lot of work!
Very impressive. You clearly did your research. Always nice to see more people educating others about these works of art.
Seeing all the early characters, I can't help but notice no matter what they all did look very similar to Mickey and Minnie, even smaller characters looking similar to Felix The Cat. What a journey to what became the Looney Tunes we know and love!
A very excellent and thorough documentary!
I was looking for Looney Tunes episodes and your video was one of the recommendations middle towards the bottom. I got interested, especially after reading - on Wikipedia 🤦🏻♀️ - about their history, and when I heard the names of the artists I recognized them. I really enjoyed this episode and I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes. Amazing job!👏🏻
THANKS SO MUCH for this series!!!
9:15 using Baccano tracks eh? You got a sub from me. Baccano is arguably one of the bests animes to come out inspired by these gentlemen, the fact that you used it for this makes me respect you as Baccano's my favourite anime of all time. 🤣
You know I never put the connection of Silly Symphonies and Looney Tunes together until now
I love the use of Cuphead music in this video.
Everyone going "Oh My GoOdNeSs tHiS KiDs sHoW hAs GuNs AnD sAyS bAd WoRdS" when they don't realise that Loony tunes actually wasn't for kids originally. It only became directed at kids in the 60s and Loony tunes started in the 30s. There are episodes encouraging men to join the army because the war was still going on!
You’re watching this video and your comment is full of outright falsehoods like that the looney tunes started in the 1940s… when the video covers the history. They started in 1930 dude. You clearly haven’t watched this video. Most of it takes place in the 30s with the cartoons still black and white.
@@lookoutforchris Okay jeez calm down, what do you want me to do apologize? The Looney tunes was never a kid's show. It was directed at all audiences, mostly adults
@@lookoutforchris at you an idiot dude??? That's what she said!
@@MagicBaldMushroom keyboard warriors gotta war.. lol 🤣
I've just come back to this for the second time in about a month, and this documentary is just terrific. Only now do I notice it's gonna be an 8 part doc. Goodness knows how long that'll take, but I'll be waiting, right here for it.
(Looks at watch)
The first animators was big inspirations on me.
I get the feeling the next few episodes will cover these topics:
Part 2: Buddy, Porky Pig, Egghead, Daffy Duck, and cartoon depictions of celebrities.
Part 3: Elmer Fudd, Sniffles, Bugs Bunny, Tweety, and World War II.
Part 4: Pepe Le Pew, Sylvester, Foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, and the Censored Eleven.
So how close am I?
You'll just have to wait and see
OMG 31:35: that trombone w/plunger mute with...a voice-over?!!
Can’t wait for Space Jam 3: Bosko’s Revenge (2038)
That’ll get written off for taxes before it even gets produced.
This was terrific 👏🏻👏🏻- thoroughly enjoyed "every frame" and I will hunt down all subsequent episodes!👍🏻
Brilliant pioneers of the arty cartoons of long ago. Thanks for uploading.
Dude this documentary is sooo well put together! This deserves way more views, likes, and subscriptions to the channel!! I hate how people won’t subscribe even though it’s free to do so! Like wtf!!
30:22 Goofy was originally called "Dippy Dwag" ( you can see it in "Ye Olden Days" ) but was later refered to as "The Goof" and some time later he was officially named Goofy.
it's 04:11am and I just finished this video. amazing the amount of research and effort put into this. Great stuff