Good review. I have broken so many 909 buckles. I don't feel like the plastic protector covers it enough, but other than that the skate is the perfect fit for me.
I'm so happy you did a video on these I'm saving up for them at the moment will be a while as I mean income isn't great at 15 so eventually when I can these will hopefully be my next skates 😂👍
I've been skating my Mooopi's for a couple months now. Was able to skate the wheels until they needed to be replaced and didn't run into any clacking. I DID lose one of the cuff bolts but replaced them with a new black set off roller warehouse which looks better than the brushed metal anyways. Also I stripped out the head on one of the frame bolts because I didn't realize that the allen wrench size was slightly larger than literally every other piece of inline gear I own, so be sure to use the wrench they give you. 28cm foot crew unite, my mediums also fit perfectly.
I have since started encountering issues with the wheels. Not clacking per se but in some cases the bearing will just fall out of the wheel when I take them out. Reading what others have posted here kind of confirms my suspicion it has to do with the axle as you can wiggle the wheel laterally on the axle, even when they're tightened down. Someone in the comments suggested filing the axle down which I think I will try.
Also the Allen wrench is the same size as every other Allen wrench, I was incorrect about that. These bolts are just REALLY EASY to strip if your tool isn't seated all the way
Another great video with before you buy skate info. You ever gonna try the carbons out? I'm curious if you'd like them. Also you mentioning the laces made me think wouldn't the last piece of the puzzle of making a complete pro THEM skates be putting their waxed laces on the boot?
That clacking sound is typically a frame or bearing issue. Bearings with poor tolerances or frames and axles that don't clamp down rhe wheels and spacers tightly.
yeah, often bearings, the spacers or a wheel change do the trick - its a problem which comes way too often in rollerblading - kids, clacky skates are the worst! :)
Those liners kind of remind me of the ones that came in my Valo SK.2's with that rough material. Still skating the boots today, but I had to ditch those liners for some myfit's because that material gave me some of the worst blistering I've had since my first pair of K2's as a kid.
Your bolts are probably to tight if you tend to extend hubs, it’s due to extensive heat transfer form the axle to the the bearings witch causes stretching of the hubs
Nice video! I just got the same skates 1month ago but they seem to be tighter than the 908, which I used before. My feet start hurting in those 909 on the outer side , like the skate is too narrow. Any tips on that?
Not skated my 909’s huge amount, but i noticed most of the hardware is pretty rubbish. Cuff bolts come loose, soul bridge receivers round easily. Laces wernt great. Replaced them with waxed ones. Would have liked some sort of shock absorber. Other than that i have been pretty impressed with the feel of the skate and how they skate.
I still don't understand paying top dollar for a skate and literally having to replace every part of it to get the thing right! It's like....if Jon Julio is penny pinching on laces, where else is he doing it?
yes the screws and hardware needs to be upgraded on the 909, AND, these should all come with those sola/muzzle yoga mat between the boot and the soul plate - i did it and it makes such a difference! Its good!!!
@@GerdGuchl yeah i’ve seen people do the yoga mat thing. To be honest 99% of the time i skate my Aeons which are the best skate for my foot and overall comfort with the new intuition premium liners.
So for almost $400 I can't even expect THEM branded decent laces? And I dunno bro that liner looks kinda like they put in a half an effort, I'll happily be wrong though because skater owned brand
Hello, @Brandon Drummond my foot size is 280 mm, but I'm 17 years old, I want to take skates for a very long time, should I take size 11-12? I'm worried that my leg will grow more) Thank you very much in advance for your answer!
Hey Brandon, stumbled across this video as my son wants to learn so I said id get back into it with him :) just found the 909s we both are about 265mm so would we be best with small or medium ? not sure
so glad i waited til now to try these (compared to the 908's). but for real though... WHYYY are the heels smaller than the front of the souls?? the part about alleyoop souls resonated with my own fears. i have 909's coming this week, and aside from sizing, i'm so anxious to see how those souls feel. thx!
I was disappointed by the 909s. They are good skates but sadly not for me. With foot length of 277mm the M shell seems to always be just a little bit big. The clear shell of the Beers make it even more obvious as I can see the gap between the front of the liner and the front of the shell. Even when lacing them super tight the liner feels disconnected to the boot. I wish I could like them but I don't.
I think the clicking is the frames! more specifically the axles. the axles are like 1.5mm too long and max out on tightness before they've actually squeezed the frame all the way. i had to drill two of mine out because they were frictioned in place not against the frame wall but within the axle itself
I haven't noticed any heel lift, and I'm still skating them today. It may be the better laces I'm using, but I've also never been that picky about heel lift.
for our teen who wears a 9 Mens US shoe (Vans and Nike), but somehow measured 7.5 on the shoe store men's metal shoe-sizer, what size would we buy in THEM skates?
yeah, often bearings, the spacers or a wheel change do the trick - its a problem which comes way too often in rollerblading - kids, clacky skates are the worst! :) Im sure brandon got these in ;)
fwiw I've also had a lot of de-coring issues / core-crack with the THEM wheels :/ Maybe something to do with how I skate, but I haven't had the issue with other wheels...
I really like both those skates. The Blanks have a better liner and wider soul plate than the Thems. They're a more "modern" boot similar to a Razor SL. The Thems come with a better frame for flat and have a more "classic" feel. They're simple and just right for me. Hopefully that helps you out.
I have Footprint - Kingfoam Orthotic Elite Insoles Footprint Insoles are really good highly reccomend them shredcityskates.com/products/footprint-kingfoam-orthotic-elite-insoles-fp-classic-size-10-10-5-us?_pos=47&_sid=02d034552&_ss=r
Is your foot 28cm or 28.5? This is not my language and I didn't understand from the video. I just have 28.5 and I don't know which to choose? Please help
@@BrandonDrummond I ordered the Pat Ridder model size medium (with the larger Intuition liner). But it was so tight that I slightly curled my toes and unfortunately made a return. Bigger size is too big. Too bad you can't choose something in between. My foot in the shell has 1cm of play on the length. Some people say to give them a chance and that they will break, but on the other hand it's a risk because they cost a lot.
@@1234103 sorry to hear that man. If your toes are curled, I wouldn't risk it either. The bigger shell definitely isn't worth it too. A Skate needs to fit you. I hope you find a better option
@@BrandonDrummond I bought again, this time the Danny Beer model and the same size as before and it fits perfectly. A little strange that the Pat Ridder model was very tight (black Intuition liner).
THEM’s wheels don’t do well when you leave your skates in the car. left mine in my girls car, went for a ledge session and literally obliterated one wheel into 10 pieces
The biggest problem i have with Themskates - Where do i buy spare part cuff for the "909 Pat Ridder" ? ( Oakcity - sold out ) (Themskatesdenmark - no reply ) (themgoods - no reply )
There are a few ways to stop without a heel brake that are much more reliable. I have a video teaching them if you're curious ❤️ th-cam.com/video/0hxM74GG2H4/w-d-xo.html
Lmfao how can the bolts be high quality if they keep coming loose and requires locktite haha. The clicky wheels has nothing to do with wheels or weather. You need new bearings or frame spacers, they get loose/deform over time from all the impact and weight. Or they were just off in measurements to begin with.
Well Brandon u still did not Lisean to me bro bin telling u what’s the nasty side a bout the sport what we do an guess what I think they took ur advice prices went up a lot more then it should every ware
@@yuy2375 he did not lisean to me that’s what I try to tell him I bin skating from the 1996 till now 2022 I seen a lot of fuck top things happen to a lot of people
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This was exactly what I needed to see as I was contemplating getting some Thems
Good review. I have broken so many 909 buckles. I don't feel like the plastic protector covers it enough, but other than that the skate is the perfect fit for me.
I'm so happy you did a video on these I'm saving up for them at the moment will be a while as I mean income isn't great at 15 so eventually when I can these will hopefully be my next skates 😂👍
Wow! I thought you were loving the Blank! I am curious: what makes you like the 909 better than the Blank?
I've been skating my Mooopi's for a couple months now. Was able to skate the wheels until they needed to be replaced and didn't run into any clacking. I DID lose one of the cuff bolts but replaced them with a new black set off roller warehouse which looks better than the brushed metal anyways. Also I stripped out the head on one of the frame bolts because I didn't realize that the allen wrench size was slightly larger than literally every other piece of inline gear I own, so be sure to use the wrench they give you. 28cm foot crew unite, my mediums also fit perfectly.
The bloody cuff bolts is a big issue, same happened to me.
so my foot is exactly 28cm. glad I found this video. going to order medium 👍
I have since started encountering issues with the wheels. Not clacking per se but in some cases the bearing will just fall out of the wheel when I take them out. Reading what others have posted here kind of confirms my suspicion it has to do with the axle as you can wiggle the wheel laterally on the axle, even when they're tightened down. Someone in the comments suggested filing the axle down which I think I will try.
Also the Allen wrench is the same size as every other Allen wrench, I was incorrect about that. These bolts are just REALLY EASY to strip if your tool isn't seated all the way
Another great video with before you buy skate info. You ever gonna try the carbons out? I'm curious if you'd like them.
Also you mentioning the laces made me think wouldn't the last piece of the puzzle of making a complete pro THEM skates be putting their waxed laces on the boot?
You would think Jon Julio would put branded laces on an premium product, and that liner looks kinda suspect to be honest...
That clacking sound is typically a frame or bearing issue. Bearings with poor tolerances or frames and axles that don't clamp down rhe wheels and spacers tightly.
yeah, often bearings, the spacers or a wheel change do the trick - its a problem which comes way too often in rollerblading - kids, clacky skates are the worst! :)
The color of those frames! So good
Great review I agree with everything on here!
Those liners kind of remind me of the ones that came in my Valo SK.2's with that rough material. Still skating the boots today, but I had to ditch those liners for some myfit's because that material gave me some of the worst blistering I've had since my first pair of K2's as a kid.
5:34 I had a similiar situation with clacking sound and my soulution was to change a bearings that had too much
clearance.
Nice timing, rolled mine for the first time this morning :D Impressed.
Brandon, if wheel moving on bearings and spacer make noises try file off spacers to shorten them little
Good review!! I also like them very much! Do you have your cuff set high or low? Greetings from Germany :)
He has it set high. He said he didn’t change it since it came stock that way 👍
Yes!! The reviews are back! Oosh! 🙌🏽
Your bolts are probably to tight if you tend to extend hubs, it’s due to extensive heat transfer form the axle to the the bearings witch causes stretching of the hubs
You’ve come along way young Drummond! 🤘🏼🍻👊🏼
True story, Laced brand laces saved me after literally the first session!! 😂
Nice video! I just got the same skates 1month ago but they seem to be tighter than the 908, which I used before. My feet start hurting in those 909 on the outer side , like the skate is too narrow. Any tips on that?
Hey so how do you feel about these vs the intuition liner? Have you tried the them 909s with the intuition liner?
Do yourself a favor and try the low cuff setting, it makes the skates so much better imo. Locks your heel down very good.
spoilers in the background huh nice laces Brandon :D
Right! Hurry up and release them already! 🤣
I was thinking about getting the 909 boot with a Kizer Fluid V. Any thoughts on the Fluid V?
Do these squeak like the m12 ?
Not skated my 909’s huge amount, but i noticed most of the hardware is pretty rubbish. Cuff bolts come loose, soul bridge receivers round easily. Laces wernt great. Replaced them with waxed ones. Would have liked some sort of shock absorber. Other than that i have been pretty impressed with the feel of the skate and how they skate.
I still don't understand paying top dollar for a skate and literally having to replace every part of it to get the thing right! It's like....if Jon Julio is penny pinching on laces, where else is he doing it?
yes the screws and hardware needs to be upgraded on the 909, AND, these should all come with those sola/muzzle yoga mat between the boot and the soul plate - i did it and it makes such a difference! Its good!!!
@@GerdGuchl yeah i’ve seen people do the yoga mat thing. To be honest 99% of the time i skate my Aeons which are the best skate for my foot and overall comfort with the new intuition premium liners.
Good reviews! Just a quick question - after skating Mesmer and new Them 909, which one do you prefer more? :) Thnx homie
Thanks for watching! I prefer the 909s. They're still my go to now.
I feel like THEM is like Apple..they could easily add the waxed laces but instead make you buy them separately.
"You want colors? Done. Tan. $500. Innovation."
@@spookwackadoo can't wait for the next innovation!
So for almost $400 I can't even expect THEM branded decent laces? And I dunno bro that liner looks kinda like they put in a half an effort, I'll happily be wrong though because skater owned brand
Hello, @Brandon Drummond my foot size is 280 mm, but I'm 17 years old, I want to take skates for a very long time, should I take size 11-12? I'm worried that my leg will grow more) Thank you very much in advance for your answer!
Hey Brandon, stumbled across this video as my son wants to learn so I said id get back into it with him :) just found the 909s we both are about 265mm so would we be best with small or medium ? not sure
Thanks for watching! That's really cool to hear. The small should fit perfect for you.
Great vid as always. thank you for doing this. Took me a while to understand what "Flicks" was, then I realised you're trying to say "Flex".
Get a cheap yoga mat and stick it between the boot and the soul for a very satisfying “thud” sound when you skate. Especially on street
so glad i waited til now to try these (compared to the 908's). but for real though... WHYYY are the heels smaller than the front of the souls?? the part about alleyoop souls resonated with my own fears. i have 909's coming this week, and aside from sizing, i'm so anxious to see how those souls feel. thx!
27.9 is a US11. do the stock wheels have core’s and how do they compare to dead wheels?
aiyo thnx for the info , one more thing is the boot on the wider side like 5th element or narrower like M12?
Thanks for watching. I'd put it somewhere in the middle of those 2. It isn't anyway near as narrow as an M12 but isn't super wide like the 5ths.
What is your foot width? I hate that I can't try on before I buy. Soon.
Great video, would like to see more of the skating here on TH-cam. Did you put the insoles in the boot or in the liner?
Thanks for watching! I put them under the liner. I found both worked fine though.
Hey Brandon, the clacking sound are due to the spacer. i got the same exact issue and after i change another spacer no such issue anymore.
I have had that clacky sound on my big wheel skates before I assumed it was something wrong with the bearings not fitting inside the wheel perfectly
I was disappointed by the 909s. They are good skates but sadly not for me. With foot length of 277mm the M shell seems to always be just a little bit big. The clear shell of the Beers make it even more obvious as I can see the gap between the front of the liner and the front of the shell. Even when lacing them super tight the liner feels disconnected to the boot. I wish I could like them but I don't.
Try a puffy insole in the shell under the liner and a thick pair of socks
I had the same problem
I think the clicking is the frames! more specifically the axles. the axles are like 1.5mm too long and max out on tightness before they've actually squeezed the frame all the way. i had to drill two of mine out because they were frictioned in place not against the frame wall but within the axle itself
That must be it cause I have changed wheels a few times now and they all end up clicking.
And.. the intro is classic! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. Love them
Did you run into any issues with heel lift and not having an ankle strap?
I haven't noticed any heel lift, and I'm still skating them today.
It may be the better laces I'm using, but I've also never been that picky about heel lift.
Thanks, I love my 908, next I buy 909)
for our teen who wears a 9 Mens US shoe (Vans and Nike), but somehow measured 7.5 on the shoe store men's metal shoe-sizer, what size would we buy in THEM skates?
I'd recommend going with the US 9 if that is most comfortable for him shoe wise. Too big is better than too small.
Did you lose your wheel spacers? You wouldn't even notice them falling out. Could be the cause for the claking sound
yeah, often bearings, the spacers or a wheel change do the trick - its a problem which comes way too often in rollerblading - kids, clacky skates are the worst! :) Im sure brandon got these in ;)
Looks like an old 2010 USD VII. I need THEM
Nice. But i think RAZORS CULT White Cooper 2021 looks more stylish
I'm heartbroken you're ditching the SKs! But since you're done with em,send them to me in Maine! lol
Brandon I’d love to see you try a soft boot the a carbon free and see your opinion
Thanks for watching man!
Next Before you buy will be on the USD carbon Teams I've been sitting on for a year 😅
fwiw I've also had a lot of de-coring issues / core-crack with the THEM wheels :/ Maybe something to do with how I skate, but I haven't had the issue with other wheels...
No way the laces went thru that much damage on the first session! You had to have scuffed those laces to pitch your lace brand out. 🤣
How would you compare these too the sk blanks??
I really like both those skates. The Blanks have a better liner and wider soul plate than the Thems. They're a more "modern" boot similar to a Razor SL. The Thems come with a better frame for flat and have a more "classic" feel. They're simple and just right for me. Hopefully that helps you out.
Which skates do you recommend???
Them 909s are still my best pick ❤️
Shout out to Quarters for being a comedic genius
Hi, on my danny beer i pop 4 of my wheels in half after a week ;D
yeah, those sucked! jj will replace if they broke for you...
can I get a link to the insole you put under the liner?
I have Footprint - Kingfoam Orthotic Elite Insoles
Footprint Insoles are really good highly reccomend them
shredcityskates.com/products/footprint-kingfoam-orthotic-elite-insoles-fp-classic-size-10-10-5-us?_pos=47&_sid=02d034552&_ss=r
How is the weigh on them skates is it heavy ?
I don't notice the weight. They aren't heavy like the Rollerblade Blanks.
Is your foot 28cm or 28.5? This is not my language and I didn't understand from the video. I just have 28.5 and I don't know which to choose? Please help
28cm. You should fit an intuition liner in a medium Them shell. The stock liner will be pushing it size wise though.
@@BrandonDrummond I ordered the Pat Ridder model size medium (with the larger Intuition liner). But it was so tight that I slightly curled my toes and unfortunately made a return. Bigger size is too big. Too bad you can't choose something in between.
My foot in the shell has 1cm of play on the length. Some people say to give them a chance and that they will break, but on the other hand it's a risk because they cost a lot.
@@1234103 sorry to hear that man. If your toes are curled, I wouldn't risk it either. The bigger shell definitely isn't worth it too. A Skate needs to fit you. I hope you find a better option
@@BrandonDrummond I bought again, this time the Danny Beer model and the same size as before and it fits perfectly. A little strange that the Pat Ridder model was very tight (black Intuition liner).
these are on sale 70% off rn go get em while you can. just ordered my pair
THEM’s wheels don’t do well when you leave your skates in the car. left mine in my girls car, went for a ledge session and literally obliterated one wheel into 10 pieces
The biggest problem i have with Themskates - Where do i buy spare part cuff for the "909 Pat Ridder" ? ( Oakcity - sold out ) (Themskatesdenmark - no reply ) (themgoods - no reply )
contact jon julio directly
@@GerdGuchl guess it's the last option..
no he will get a quick answer most of the time when you have a problem with some of the hardware @@aegiDiusMrChef
I just got the 2022 version its a great skate and for some reason its a tad lighter then the M12
Now to break in these puppies
Creating a new brand is not easy
I used to own a 909 but I won't buy another pair
The wheels cores bothered me
PogB Clap PogB Clap PogB Clap PogB Clap PogB Clap PogB Clap PogB Clap you nailed this review B! 07’s in the chat for win🎉
Is this still your favorite (let me know ASAP before I buy it please)
Yes. I was skating them on the vert today. They're still great
@@BrandonDrummond thanks I ordered it, can't wait for to come
@@shiyass650 you're gonna love them 🔥🔥🔥
@@BrandonDrummond ty but if I don't like them I will blame it on you lol
@@shiyass650 That's fair 😅😅
Anyone here 24.5cm foot? Is it perfect fit for small
For the algo
My only worry is that there is no way to stop in them
There are a few ways to stop without a heel brake that are much more reliable. I have a video teaching them if you're curious ❤️ th-cam.com/video/0hxM74GG2H4/w-d-xo.html
Lmfao how can the bolts be high quality if they keep coming loose and requires locktite haha.
The clicky wheels has nothing to do with wheels or weather. You need new bearings or frame spacers, they get loose/deform over time from all the impact and weight. Or they were just off in measurements to begin with.
Well Brandon u still did not Lisean to me bro bin telling u what’s the nasty side a bout the sport what we do an guess what I think they took ur advice prices went up a lot more then it should every ware
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@@yuy2375 he did not lisean to me that’s what I try to tell him I bin skating from the 1996 till now 2022 I seen a lot of fuck top things happen to a lot of people
well...part of it is made by bauer. :D
That was the 908. The 909 is an original mold.
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