Yes, you can run 760 servos on cyclic. You can also run 12V servos, variable pitch servo tail, DD motor tail... with RotorFlight you can run just about anything :)
Maidened my RS4 today running Rotorflight on the FlyDragon F772v2 and ELRS. Some minor tuning left to do but amazing how well if flew. If you're doing ELRS, get the FlyDragon as it has integrated ELRS without needing to use a satellite.
I starts the setup for my Nexus on a Omp m4 max. Using a frsky archer rs Fport receiver. It works great and you even have a bunch of extra telemetry options compared to elrs. With both edge/open tx and ethos there's full transmitter integration Tomorrow or at the end of the week I'll do the final mechanical setup and then it's maiden time!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 haven't flown yet but the setup is easy enough so far. You don't need elrs. I use frsky Access (f port) and that has full integration as well
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I got everything setup not. It honestly wasn't too bad. I like that you have the visual overview of the Heli in the setup and how it reacts to your inputs. The blackbox logging is also a LOT more extensive compared to the icon. On frsky fport integration and telemetry is flawless
I just went thru the learning process on mine this weekend. I have it installed on my RS4 Venom with my 14SG w/R7006SB RX. I have telemetry to FC but not TX. I made three nice flights today on out of the box settings. Now it is time for tuning.
i bought two of the Nexus FBL units and two of the RP3-H recievers and have had a nightmare trying to set them up. OK i am new to radiomaster and its setup but after setting the TX and the the nexus i am still left with the thing not working. When i asked Radiomaster they said and let me quote 'All open-source systems are very complex; they are fully open and customizable remote control systems aimed at professional users. '. Well when i was buying these units i was not told this on any web site so let me warn any intermediate flier out there not to even consider buying these as a cheap option for an FBL controller as its unlikely you will get it working. Let me be clear.....For experts it is amazing technology but make sure you fall into that category before buying.
@@andyMSH700 so I have sat down and actually go it to this thing but I 1000% agree with you. It’s a massive pain in the ass! Way to complicated for a FBL set up. If you like open source, it’s great, but there is hardly any support out there for you not great at all for a beginner.
The configurator is still being developed for RotorFlight. It is not fully matured. So there is a lot of configuration . If you use ELRS you can tune the FBL from your radio just like Vbar .
How is the Configurator "not fully matured"? The Configurator is fully functional. There is everything you need to fully setup and tune the heli there, which part of it do you find not mature?
@@tomaskir Watching other you tube videos from expert level pilots reviews, there is much more to configure and setup on V2 . Yes it is fully functional. Compare IKON configurator which hasn't really changed that much in the last 10 years. I can setup a helicopter with Ikon and the default settings require little or no tuning on first flight. I am sure V3 of Rotor Flight and beyond and the ease of set up will get close to Ikon configurator.
@@zmanphx Main reason it takes longer is simply that it allows you direct control over settings that other FBLs hide from you and do a "best guess" for. The Rotorflight devs have a "don't hide things from the end user" philosophy but there are plans to develop "express setup" defaults. If you are already an Open TX user though you'll probably want to do the expert setup just on general principle.
Just spent a couple weeks specing and thinking out a raw 580 build with this FC paired with a jumper t20s running EdgeTX and ELRS. Placed my order yesterday and excited to start building thanks to your vids! The one thing I'm most interested about with this setup is the ability to do bidirectional dshot to the ESC. Every ESC in the helicopter space still uses a servo signal for the throttle input with an RPM signal wire to get realtime RPM feedback into the PID loop. The problem here is that while you can run the pid loop at something like 2khz with the RPM wire, the controller is not able to set the throttle more quickly than ~100hz. With dshot 300, the FC can set the ESC throttle in every loop of the PID up to 4khz. I _think_ this should hold the head speed much better, but I'm not good enough of a pilot yet to test this out side-by-side. The dshot-capable ESC I'm going to try running is the Flycolor X-Cross HV, I got both a 120A and a 160A version to try out. If you'd like to do a side-by-side comparison, I'd be interested in collaborating!
Im glad you're doing this one and im glad you're doing it with Spektrum. One thing I can't figure out is why you can buy a windows laptop for under 300 bucks, and a flight controller is 200-300 bucks. I have to assume it's the development costs for a product that has a low customer count to recoup said development costs. I'll tell ya, buying 6250's and V-bar evo's gets hard on the wallet. Im am definitely looking forward to how you would compare the three controllers. Keep it up!!! Peace!
I’m glad to be trying this as well! So there is quite a few reasons why things cost what they cost. Especially referring to Vbar, for example. Research and development cost companies a lot of money. Depending on where everything is manufactured cost companies a lot of money. Mikado is a in-house very small company that manufactures everything in Germany so no Chinese parts and or tons of people working for pennies to manufacture their products everything is quality German made products, so of course the cost of that goes up which entails the cost that we pay goes up. Companies like radiomaster and or Roto flight is an open source so they do not need to pay that research and development they have outsiders do it for them Chinese company with Chinese products keeping the cost extremely low so to the consumer it is extremely low
It's not the hardware. That's the cheap part. It's the software. For your comparison: A laptop gets windows for free now (altough it wasn't like that just a while ago) but you got to pay, for example for MS Office. That's more expensive than the laptop 😂. Same thing here. The software has to be engineered, developed and thoroughly tested in flight. That costs a lot of money. Rotorflight, on the other hand, is developed by a community of developers that do it in their free time. They're not paid. The testing is made by the users - also not paid. Now, the probability of a software bug to go undetected in the testing phase ( and cause, for example, the helicopter to crash) is far greater in open-source software than in proprietary software. The bar is not so high, the testing is not so strict, the allocated human resources are very different. By using Rotorflight, you must accept this risk as a tradeoff for the lower price. If you don't accept it, just buy a branded FBL.
@@OliveiraX You're right, you're paying in time what you'd save getting an OOTB controller. However, I don't agree that you're taking a larger risk in a bug augering your machine. I think the special thing about OSS is that the people willing to dedicate their time are usually experts in both the field of software engineering and in the problem space the software is targeting. You also trade an unknown testing regime for a known one, and one which you personally can contribute knowledge and experience to. The other special thing about OSS is that once we as a community invest time to figure something out, it benefits us all at no additional cost in time or money. I applaude radiomaster for embracing OSS and making it possible for us to use the growing encoded knowledge aggregated in these projects, and because of that I plan to purchase as much as possible from them and other companies doing so to hopefully perpetuate that into the future.
I have completely configured and adjusted Rotorflight for my friend's RAW 420 Comp and honestly the performance is really impressive ! Using ELRS with an Edge/Open TX radio (And a lua script) allows you to obtain all the necessary telemetry and offers an interface for adjusting PID, Rate, governor and headspeed directly from the TX! The gyro filters and PIDs can be individually adjusted very very precisely. It's a revolution 🎉
@@westhobbiesrc8051 In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker. With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency. You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set... Honestly I think that beginners, intermediate pilots and those who don't do 3D or hard 3D won't really find any interest other than the price. But for very experienced pilots, rotorflight allows you to exceed the performance of a Vbar. It's crazy !
@@westhobbiesrc8051 In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker. With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency. You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set... I don't think that the beginner and intermediate pilots who don't do hard 3D will find other interest than the affordable price But with good settings, experienced and extreme pilots can make it even better than a Vbar ! It's crazy !
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, with lua scripts(basically community-written software that runs on the TX) you can expose all of the rotorflight FC's parameters for realtime tweaking over ELRS on an Open/EdgeTX radio.
The rotorflight is intriguing but after watching some setup videos I'll just keep it on the watch list for now. Like all things open source you'll need to rely heavily on forums, videos, social media, discord ect to try and figure it out. I've had my fill learning new things recently with edge tx/ elrs with brain2.
@@bennn1976ify it’s a lot of setup. I got most of the way though it and set it side. I much prefer Vbar or ikon so much nicer to setup and tune. Vbar being the easiest and best in my opinion. I think is they can make the setup as nice as ikon they will be even more popular.
Just got mine the other day final got it going on a Older radio JR 11X and DSM2 sat. (had one small hic up no motor start due to Gov setting in FC setup , needs to be set to OFF on my RS4 Venom. using stock Goosky components ESC, Servos,Etc). Got it going this morning with some help from Nguyen Tan. Big shout out to this Guy. We Chased the motor start issue for a while. thought it was Throttle 0% and Arm settings but that was not that. Jeff your going to like it but get ready to dive in to tuning PIDs. and Rates Probably similar to Ikon, I don't know I started back with just the Goosky FC which is great for Beginners to intermediate pilots. I'm waiting on my Frsky X20RS to come in to set up integration with this FC for easier tuning with out laptop.
That’s one thing I am not looking forward to is the actual set up if it is anything like the TX 16 us set up. Unfortunately I do not have a X 20 S or plan on buying one just for this but who knows what the future holds and maybe one day I will purchase one of those radios if this system seems to be that good. I hope they can do a easy setup like iKon as that would really sell to everyone who doesn’t like to mess around with insane setup.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I have a Vbar Evo, JR 11x and 12x as my main transmitters.... picked up the tx16 and hate the thing.... pain in the ass to figure out and needs a new update every couple months..... No idea why someone would want something that you have to constantly mess with.
@@slappomatthew ELRS doesn't failsafe. Ever. I have 6 helis (including 700s) and many planes on ELRS. On my planes, I have flow 18km with ELRS. Not a single failsafe, ever.
@@slappomatthew There is u tube video by The Lighter Side of RC testing distance of ElRS , Futaba and Spektrum with various radios over stretch of road that includes slight hill. Spektrum barely made it to .8km, Futaba made it to 1.2km. ELRS made it to 6.2km on 250mw.
Good to see competition stepping up. Pushes innovation forward and prevents stagnation. I wish they make a Fbl/Rx combo in the future for cleaner setup. Another thing I wish to see is an extra port for your external backup battery or cap pack (like on CGY770R) to avoid doing Y connection.
They already make one. It's called the Steam FlyDragon. Picked one up from AliExpress last week, but they're starting to show up in hobby shops in the US now. $95 with built in ELRS Rx.
Does it have the same internals? Never heard about it but it looks interesting. I live in Japan but would love to drop my Futaba setup as they are so behind the curve. No rescue, programming is kind of a pain and expensive for what you get...
@@wnodzykowski Yes, they just incorporated the ELRS Rx into the FBL controller. It's just slightly larger than the Nexus by a couple MM in all dimensions.
I believe they do called flydragon or dragon fly. Seen some videos on it! I wish they would have a couple extra ports, especially for guys that want to do lights or a retract whatever on scale, birds, or BEC back up.
Good to know that you have the unit now and looking forward on how you setup yours. I ordered mine last Monday and gonna try to set it up with my Futaba 16iz. My cyclic servos are set to 760 as well, thanks to the TorqBox made jt easier to center the Torq servos. Thank u much and looking forward on your setup.
Hello Jeff, thank you for your videos. . A question when you will ask a video about the setup with Radio spektrum with Nexus I would be very grateful. Thank you very much
DSMX (srxl2) is supported by the Nexus FBL, I use a JR connector (m/v) to UART A-crsf. Can you show in the setup video how you connect the ESC (Telemetry P-port) to the Nexus FBL (SBUS ?)
SRXL2 is different than DSMX. Yes it rides on the same frequencies but if the actual FBL does not support SRXL2 protocol it will not work. I’m honestly not sure if it does support telemetry the same way, but I will definitely be trying it!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 It has already worked (ref. FB Rotorflight). Port A-crsf UART pins GND, 5V and TX to SRXL2 receiver pins GND, V+ and signal. Try it, it will work !
Sorry it’s the translation, it’s a taranis X9E radio. With heli mix as well. Right now with OpenTX. The only thing I have to try is upgrade it to EdgeTX probably. It’s not a car radio. Theo.
Jeff, I'm really excited to see you review this. I've seen some other reviews, and it's terrific. BUT I want to see the West Hobbies RC review before I decide to purchase this. It is as you thought it was. Meaning more options with a Radiomaster radio. To be honest, I've been really impressed with Radiomaster's Tx's, especially what you get for your money. The reviewers really don't talk about the ease of setup, which leads me to believe that it's not a Piece of Cake, set it and forget, easy to use FBL like the Ikon's or Brain's. So I don't think Ikon or Brain's have anything to worry about, since they are proven beginner friendly. One reviewer said it seemed more for people who REALLY like to tinker to get it REALLY dialed in. Again, can't wait Jeff, and thank you for the overview.
Thank you! I hope you find value in these reviews. Of course, I will always be honest! Radiomaster is not a piece of cake. The set up and be extremely difficult. I’m hoping with this FBL the set up is a lot easier than the actual transmitter itself, and if it is, I think it will be a very good selling product but! The reason they are a lot cheaper is because it is open source and you have to do everything. For example, you can grab a Spektrum Radio and have it set up in minutes where on a radiomaster it takes you quite a bit longer from my personal experience. If they can get there radios to be like spektrum as far as ease of setup they would take off big time. I hope this FBL is like iKon for setup if not it will out ALOT of people off.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, I find value in all your reviews since I found your channel a while back. Not to mention when I reached out in an Email, you wrote back in a very timely fashion. You are professional and kind. I even watched the Electric Scooter vid you just released, as well as gave it a thumbs up. Even though I'm not in the market for one right now, it's ALWAYS good to watch vids that are informative about technology, and I thought it was great. I have a Radiomaster TX16S, but I honestly don't know why as I never use it. I think it was the technology, and OpenTX seems like if it could be as you said, "User Friendly" someday, I agree that it would REALLY take off! (No Pun Intended) OpenTX started off good, but since it's all Volunteer Based programming, it's hard for people donating time to it to get out any updates and I feel that's what hurt it for a long time. EdgeTX picked up the ball where OpenTX left off and came out with some VERY much needed updates. OpenTX promised a touch screen years ago and several updates later, still no touch screen. After EdgeTX picked it up, touch screen was in the first update. I also liked that the radio is FULL of features, yet is priced very cheap. This is a tremendous step forward for people who want to get into the hobby of flying RC Airplanes or Helicopters. As you stated before, if they simplified this radio for the beginner and kept all of the current features making it a radio that grows with you, they could be a real player in the RC hobby.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes. The open source interface offers many more possibilities and developments than any proprietary radio. In return, you get a much more complicated interface that is much less intuitive. But once you're familiar with the interface, you create a new model in minutes 🙂 The Rotorflight adjustment interface is not like an ikon. This is certainly what will exclude the majority of people
If you have ever set up a multirotor with Betaflight then it's not hard, it is however quite different than other FBLs which have mostly aped the Vbar's "fast and loose" style of setup. It's closest to the Futaba CGY which is also criticized for a non standard setup. I imagine F3C guys will love it for the same reasons they love the Futaba CGY i.e. you can do a very accurate head geometry setup and it has settings for tuning out swashplate interactions and crosstalk between pitch and roll.
Yes been waiting for this on Spektrum. I ran OpenTX radios back in my fpv days but the headache that’s comes with setup isn’t worth it for me. Also curious to see one on a nitro model and if that’s even possible? Guessing the esc plug would just go into the throttle servo. I’m going to order one and play around as we’ll to see if it’s as easy as beta flight was to learn
I’m really curious to see how setup is as well. I hope to get it up this weekend! I was wondering about nitro as well. One issue is see is not enough ports as well as not being able to split power to two/Three ports. But! I’ve got a Trex 600 and Trex 700 nitro I could try it on!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I wish it had more port so it was possible to split power as well. I was going to do the same and try it on a Trex 600n pro I converted to fbl awhile back. It's been sitting in the corner anyways might as well do some science with it
@@calank923 I’m big on splitting power. I do not like running all power though one lead/port. Even with electric I’ll run BEC back up to its port or tied in with RPM. That’s exactly what I’ll do with mine lol it’s not getting flown and I’ve got three Trex 600n lol
Please get a elrs module for your tx16s whould love to see your response feedback. I enjoy your setup videos. I think it will work nicely on your raw420 direct drive or tb40 or nimbus 550.. Any one of those will be super cool to try out so I can copy the settings 😂😂
In all honesty, my TX16S has put a really bad taste in my mouth from the issues I had with my original. But! I am always willing and happy to give everything a second shot but I will definitely be trying it in something I don’t really care about lol but from what I’ve seen and heard it is a really good system and works extremely well so I’m excited to see.
@@gregoryholcomb7560 unfortunately not this one, you could get a ikon 2 FBL as there is a Fly bar section but the Nexus Does not have that option unless you go though and turn all gains to zero and just leave the tail gain, not sure if it works with this but I know ikon 2 and Vbar can be done like that.
@@VipiModel-nk3ce hello! So my personal opinion neither. Best bang for your buck is ikon/Brain FBL. Easy to setup, tune and adjust to your liking. Great four minutes and never let me down. I’m still learning and playing with the NEXUS and have a setup video coming very soon but it’s alot of steps to make it work and setup. Micro beast is very outdated and not worth the money I’m today market.
Hey men , just waiting mine, nice vídeo ! would be amazing if you can install It and setup for your goosky rs4 Venom, have the same and i could learn with you the setup with rotorflight 2 hehe, nice vídeo as always 😊
Hey Jeff, I have the radio Master tx16s MK2. I know you generally prefer Vbar. I have an S2, RS4, Raw 500, etc . If you are in my shoes, would you put the Nexus FBL on all of my helicopters or would you go with vbar instead? I'm trying to simplify my setup by only having one radio. My understanding is v-bar will work on the S2 and RS4. My goal is to have one transmitter instead of two. I don't mind turning different FBLs if I were to use the vbar as an external rx.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 If you already know how to set up a multirotor with Betaflight then it's actually pretty logical. Rotorflight was originally forked from Betaflight 4.3 and while a lot of the code has been rewritten in RF2.0 it still uses the "skeleton" of Betaflight so it can use the same hardware drivers for the FC hardware and the configurator is still based on Betaflight's F3C guys will probbaly love being able to precisely set up the servo geometry, most FBLs handle this in an "eh, close enough" way while with Rotorflight you can ensure than when the FBL tries to move a servo to 30 degrees it's really 30 degrees. you don't *have* to do a servo calibration but it's there if you want it.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 You asked me if the settings are like Vbar, I'm rewriting my answer here: In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker. With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency. You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set... I don't think that the beginner and intermediate pilots who don't do hard 3D will find other interest than the affordable price But with good settings, experienced and extreme pilots can make it even better than a Vbar ! It's crazy ! 🙂
@@corionisme in all honesty I’ve not touched it. I’ve been so busy with other videos, I’m working 8 videos as I type this lol but I promise I will get back to it. I apologize for the delay.
@@darrenprock6532 I did most of the setup. I had issues and put it side and have not gotten back to it. I’m trying to learn as much as possible about it before I post a setup video.
Im very interested in this tech and am researching using it as apart of the ecosystem for my Tron Gemini I want do after my RS4 Venom PNP kit. Ive been pouring into 'RC Video Reviews' channel and the full series on Nexus. An interesting video I found last night addresses some caution over Theta servos and ELRS PWM receivers. th-cam.com/video/C5ZSZxNzcJc/w-d-xo.html (alot of the technical is still over my head as I am new to this hobby) I would really like to see you do a 400-600 class build using a Nexus and maybe a TX16s rather than the spektrum/vbar/ikon bread and butter format. Especially keen on your choice of receiver and setting up Rotorflight 2.
RS4 Venom base kit arrived over the weekend. Pairing it with a Nexus fc, elrs rp3h receiver, torq servos and hobbywing 80amp esc. Thanks to the Helidirect IRCHA sale, it was only about $100 more than the all in one goosky branded kit. So i got a smoking awesome avionics package for very little extra. It's late, but I finally got my build station and tools all organized. I'm going to build my first helicopter this week!! Thanks for all your content and the build videos.
Next big thing? I doubt that. I do not understand how they can make this thing so full of features but at the same time require a rocket scientists degree to set it up. That makes little sense.
It was forked from Betaflight 4.3 and the devs have the same mindset as the Edge TX devs to "never hide anything from the user" It's like Linux i.e. very powerful but a lot of folks will always be too dumb to use it and just stick to Windows because it basically configures itself.
@@atomicskull6405 Your comparison with Linux and Windows is interesting, but I think it's missing a crucial point. The issue isn't about users being "too dumb" to use complex systems; it's about accessibility and user experience. Even the most powerful features are wasted if they are inaccessible to the majority of users. A good product should balance complexity with usability, offering advanced options for power users while ensuring a smooth setup process for everyone else. Take Betaflight, for example-yes, it's incredibly powerful, but its complexity can be a barrier. The same goes for the new flybarless controller. If the goal is to advance the hobby and attract more enthusiasts, developers should consider how they can make the technology more approachable without sacrificing functionality. After all, a tool that's easy to use can still be powerful and sophisticated.
Yes, you can run 760 servos on cyclic. You can also run 12V servos, variable pitch servo tail, DD motor tail... with RotorFlight you can run just about anything :)
That’s good to know! This is the third FBL I know of that can run 12v!
... run 760 servos ... That's indeed a lot. 😅
Maidened my RS4 today running Rotorflight on the FlyDragon F772v2 and ELRS. Some minor tuning left to do but amazing how well if flew. If you're doing ELRS, get the FlyDragon as it has integrated ELRS without needing to use a satellite.
That’s great to hear! How was the setup? So I’m not using ELRS but maybe one day I’ll buy one and try it!
I starts the setup for my Nexus on a Omp m4 max. Using a frsky archer rs Fport receiver. It works great and you even have a bunch of extra telemetry options compared to elrs. With both edge/open tx and ethos there's full transmitter integration
Tomorrow or at the end of the week I'll do the final mechanical setup and then it's maiden time!
That’s good to hear! How did you like it compared to other FBL like iKon? Do you need ELRS to have full integration?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 haven't flown yet but the setup is easy enough so far. You don't need elrs. I use frsky Access (f port) and that has full integration as well
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I got everything setup not. It honestly wasn't too bad. I like that you have the visual overview of the Heli in the setup and how it reacts to your inputs. The blackbox logging is also a LOT more extensive compared to the icon. On frsky fport integration and telemetry is flawless
I just went thru the learning process on mine this weekend. I have it installed on my RS4 Venom with my 14SG w/R7006SB RX. I have telemetry to FC but not TX. I made three nice flights today on out of the box settings. Now it is time for tuning.
i bought two of the Nexus FBL units and two of the RP3-H recievers and have had a nightmare trying to set them up. OK i am new to radiomaster and its setup but after setting the TX and the the nexus i am still left with the thing not working. When i asked Radiomaster they said and let me quote 'All open-source systems are very complex; they are fully open and customizable remote control systems aimed at professional users. '. Well when i was buying these units i was not told this on any web site so let me warn any intermediate flier out there not to even consider buying these as a cheap option for an FBL controller as its unlikely you will get it working. Let me be clear.....For experts it is amazing technology but make sure you fall into that category before buying.
@@andyMSH700 so I have sat down and actually go it to this thing but I 1000% agree with you. It’s a massive pain in the ass! Way to complicated for a FBL set up. If you like open source, it’s great, but there is hardly any support out there for you not great at all for a beginner.
Please let us know either way when you find out if it supports telemetry with SRXL2.
I definitely will!
SRXL telemetry is fully supported.
@@tomaskir that’s good to know, what port does the SRXL2 plug into?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 all three ports, A, B and C, can do SRXL. Pick one, and just set it to Serial Receiver and SRXL in the Configurator :)
The configurator is still being developed for RotorFlight. It is not fully matured. So there is a lot of configuration . If you use ELRS you can tune the FBL from your radio just like Vbar .
How is the set up compared to other FBL’s? A lot more complicated? I’ve heard that, I don’t have one, but I might end up buying one sooner or later.
How is the Configurator "not fully matured"? The Configurator is fully functional. There is everything you need to fully setup and tune the heli there, which part of it do you find not mature?
In fact the configurator is currently fully functional. There's a lot of configuration and that's the whole point ;)
@@tomaskir Watching other you tube videos from expert level pilots reviews, there is much more to configure and setup on V2 . Yes it is fully functional. Compare IKON configurator which hasn't really changed that much in the last 10 years. I can setup a helicopter with Ikon and the default settings require little or no tuning on first flight. I am sure V3 of Rotor Flight and beyond and the ease of set up will get close to Ikon configurator.
@@zmanphx Main reason it takes longer is simply that it allows you direct control over settings that other FBLs hide from you and do a "best guess" for. The Rotorflight devs have a "don't hide things from the end user" philosophy but there are plans to develop "express setup" defaults. If you are already an Open TX user though you'll probably want to do the expert setup just on general principle.
Just spent a couple weeks specing and thinking out a raw 580 build with this FC paired with a jumper t20s running EdgeTX and ELRS. Placed my order yesterday and excited to start building thanks to your vids! The one thing I'm most interested about with this setup is the ability to do bidirectional dshot to the ESC. Every ESC in the helicopter space still uses a servo signal for the throttle input with an RPM signal wire to get realtime RPM feedback into the PID loop. The problem here is that while you can run the pid loop at something like 2khz with the RPM wire, the controller is not able to set the throttle more quickly than ~100hz. With dshot 300, the FC can set the ESC throttle in every loop of the PID up to 4khz. I _think_ this should hold the head speed much better, but I'm not good enough of a pilot yet to test this out side-by-side. The dshot-capable ESC I'm going to try running is the Flycolor X-Cross HV, I got both a 120A and a 160A version to try out. If you'd like to do a side-by-side comparison, I'd be interested in collaborating!
Im glad you're doing this one and im glad you're doing it with Spektrum. One thing I can't figure out is why you can buy a windows laptop for under 300 bucks, and a flight controller is 200-300 bucks. I have to assume it's the development costs for a product that has a low customer count to recoup said development costs. I'll tell ya, buying 6250's and V-bar evo's gets hard on the wallet. Im am definitely looking forward to how you would compare the three controllers. Keep it up!!! Peace!
I mean why is a 200 amp esc 500-900$
I’m glad to be trying this as well! So there is quite a few reasons why things cost what they cost. Especially referring to Vbar, for example. Research and development cost companies a lot of money. Depending on where everything is manufactured cost companies a lot of money. Mikado is a in-house very small company that manufactures everything in Germany so no Chinese parts and or tons of people working for pennies to manufacture their products everything is quality German made products, so of course the cost of that goes up which entails the cost that we pay goes up. Companies like radiomaster and or Roto flight is an open source so they do not need to pay that research and development they have outsiders do it for them Chinese company with Chinese products keeping the cost extremely low so to the consumer it is extremely low
It's not the hardware. That's the cheap part. It's the software.
For your comparison: A laptop gets windows for free now (altough it wasn't like that just a while ago) but you got to pay, for example for MS Office. That's more expensive than the laptop 😂.
Same thing here. The software has to be engineered, developed and thoroughly tested in flight. That costs a lot of money. Rotorflight, on the other hand, is developed by a community of developers that do it in their free time. They're not paid. The testing is made by the users - also not paid.
Now, the probability of a software bug to go undetected in the testing phase ( and cause, for example, the helicopter to crash) is far greater in open-source software than in proprietary software. The bar is not so high, the testing is not so strict, the allocated human resources are very different.
By using Rotorflight, you must accept this risk as a tradeoff for the lower price. If you don't accept it, just buy a branded FBL.
@@OliveiraX Thanks and well said. I'll keep my V-bars and 6250's!!
@@OliveiraX You're right, you're paying in time what you'd save getting an OOTB controller. However, I don't agree that you're taking a larger risk in a bug augering your machine. I think the special thing about OSS is that the people willing to dedicate their time are usually experts in both the field of software engineering and in the problem space the software is targeting. You also trade an unknown testing regime for a known one, and one which you personally can contribute knowledge and experience to. The other special thing about OSS is that once we as a community invest time to figure something out, it benefits us all at no additional cost in time or money. I applaude radiomaster for embracing OSS and making it possible for us to use the growing encoded knowledge aggregated in these projects, and because of that I plan to purchase as much as possible from them and other companies doing so to hopefully perpetuate that into the future.
I have completely configured and adjusted Rotorflight for my friend's RAW 420 Comp and honestly the performance is really impressive ! Using ELRS with an Edge/Open TX radio (And a lua script) allows you to obtain all the necessary telemetry and offers an interface for adjusting PID, Rate, governor and headspeed directly from the TX!
The gyro filters and PIDs can be individually adjusted very very precisely. It's a revolution 🎉
So it sets up like Vbar with ELRS?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker.
With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency.
You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set...
Honestly I think that beginners, intermediate pilots and those who don't do 3D or hard 3D won't really find any interest other than the price. But for very experienced pilots, rotorflight allows you to exceed the performance of a Vbar. It's crazy !
@@westhobbiesrc8051 In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker.
With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency.
You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set... I don't think that the beginner and intermediate pilots who don't do hard 3D will find other interest than the affordable price But with good settings, experienced and extreme pilots can make it even better than a Vbar ! It's crazy !
That is my exact build! Have you fully tuned your friend's Raw 420 Competition? Would love to see your settings to help me get in the air sooner.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, with lua scripts(basically community-written software that runs on the TX) you can expose all of the rotorflight FC's parameters for realtime tweaking over ELRS on an Open/EdgeTX radio.
The rotorflight is intriguing but after watching some setup videos I'll just keep it on the watch list for now. Like all things open source you'll need to rely heavily on forums, videos, social media, discord ect to try and figure it out. I've had my fill learning new things recently with edge tx/ elrs with brain2.
@@bennn1976ify it’s a lot of setup. I got most of the way though it and set it side. I much prefer Vbar or ikon so much nicer to setup and tune. Vbar being the easiest and best in my opinion. I think is they can make the setup as nice as ikon they will be even more popular.
Just got mine the other day final got it going on a Older radio JR 11X and DSM2 sat. (had one small hic up no motor start due to Gov setting in FC setup , needs to be set to OFF on my RS4 Venom. using stock Goosky components ESC, Servos,Etc). Got it going this morning with some help from Nguyen Tan. Big shout out to this Guy. We Chased the motor start issue for a while.
thought it was Throttle 0% and Arm settings but that was not that. Jeff your going to like it but get ready to dive in to tuning PIDs. and Rates Probably similar to Ikon, I don't know I started back with just the Goosky FC which is great for Beginners to intermediate pilots. I'm waiting on my Frsky X20RS to come in to set up integration with this FC for easier tuning with out laptop.
That’s one thing I am not looking forward to is the actual set up if it is anything like the TX 16 us set up. Unfortunately I do not have a X 20 S or plan on buying one just for this but who knows what the future holds and maybe one day I will purchase one of those radios if this system seems to be that good. I hope they can do a easy setup like iKon as that would really sell to everyone who doesn’t like to mess around with insane setup.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I have a Vbar Evo, JR 11x and 12x as my main transmitters.... picked up the tx16 and hate the thing.... pain in the ass to figure out and needs a new update every couple months..... No idea why someone would want something that you have to constantly mess with.
Can't wait to see your setup with Spektrum. I have yet to see anyone use Spektrum yet.
I haven’t seen anybody use a spektrum transmitter either so it will be very cool to see how it performs and how it reacts with it.
I finally got my mini comet Flying on the nexus and I love it, you can't beat the price and 0 dead zones even on 50mw output with elrs
This thing is the future of RC Heli's! Combined with ERLS and its game over!
We will see!
I wouldnt trust a big heli with ELRS. too many failsafes ime.
@@slappomatthew ELRS doesn't failsafe. Ever. I have 6 helis (including 700s) and many planes on ELRS. On my planes, I have flow 18km with ELRS. Not a single failsafe, ever.
@@slappomatthew me either.
@@slappomatthew There is u tube video by The Lighter Side of RC testing distance of ElRS , Futaba and Spektrum with various radios over stretch of road that includes slight hill. Spektrum barely made it to .8km, Futaba made it to 1.2km. ELRS made it to 6.2km on 250mw.
Good to see competition stepping up. Pushes innovation forward and prevents stagnation.
I wish they make a Fbl/Rx combo in the future for cleaner setup. Another thing I wish to see is an extra port for your external backup battery or cap pack (like on CGY770R) to avoid doing Y connection.
They already make one. It's called the Steam FlyDragon. Picked one up from AliExpress last week, but they're starting to show up in hobby shops in the US now. $95 with built in ELRS Rx.
Does it have the same internals? Never heard about it but it looks interesting. I live in Japan but would love to drop my Futaba setup as they are so behind the curve. No rescue, programming is kind of a pain and expensive for what you get...
@@wnodzykowski Yes, they just incorporated the ELRS Rx into the FBL controller. It's just slightly larger than the Nexus by a couple MM in all dimensions.
I believe they do called flydragon or dragon fly. Seen some videos on it! I wish they would have a couple extra ports, especially for guys that want to do lights or a retract whatever on scale, birds, or BEC back up.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Did you watch BladeScrapers video on flydragon? He is tuning and flying the flydragon on M4 Max
Good to know that you have the unit now and looking forward on how you setup yours. I ordered mine last Monday and gonna try to set it up with my Futaba 16iz. My cyclic servos are set to 760 as well, thanks to the TorqBox made jt easier to center the Torq servos. Thank u much and looking forward on your setup.
Hello Jeff, thank you for your videos. . A question when you will ask a video about the setup with Radio spektrum with Nexus I would be very grateful. Thank you very much
Leared setting up my helis with this dude great job
@@killrertomato5392 Thank you! I greatly appreciate it, I’m glad these videos are helpful!
Kraken 580 would be the perfect test machine. Would fit really nice on the stock mount.
DSMX (srxl2) is supported by the Nexus FBL, I use a JR connector (m/v) to UART A-crsf. Can you show in the setup video how you connect the ESC (Telemetry P-port) to the Nexus FBL (SBUS ?)
SRXL2 is different than DSMX. Yes it rides on the same frequencies but if the actual FBL does not support SRXL2 protocol it will not work. I’m honestly not sure if it does support telemetry the same way, but I will definitely be trying it!
@@westhobbiesrc8051SRXL2 is DSMX and DSM2 compatible (SPM9747_manuel)
SRXL2 is DSMX and DSM2 compatible (SPM9747 manuel)
@@claudevandaele4402 trust me, try using SRXL2 On a DSMX FBL. Like a M2 or S2 and it will not work.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 It has already worked (ref. FB Rotorflight). Port A-crsf UART pins GND, 5V and TX to SRXL2 receiver pins GND, V+ and signal. Try it, it will work !
Would love to see a comparison between the vbar/ikon and this little boy !
I can definitely do that
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Definitely would love this comparison.
Hello, will this work with a frsky car subs receiver and with mu taranis X9E radio?
@@theovanhilst3496 hello! I don’t believe so but I’m not sure, probably not. Car radios do not have the mixing needed to fly a helicopter.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 i do fly helikopters with it, it has a heli mix option. Thanks for your aswer.
Sorry it’s the translation, it’s a taranis X9E radio. With heli mix as well. Right now with OpenTX.
The only thing I have to try is upgrade it to EdgeTX probably. It’s not a car radio. Theo.
@@theovanhilst3496 oh then yes, definitely! You can use any FBL just need a RX that binds to your radio.
Thank you
Jeff, I'm really excited to see you review this. I've seen some other reviews, and it's terrific. BUT I want to see the West Hobbies RC review before I decide to purchase this. It is as you thought it was. Meaning more options with a Radiomaster radio. To be honest, I've been really impressed with Radiomaster's Tx's, especially what you get for your money. The reviewers really don't talk about the ease of setup, which leads me to believe that it's not a Piece of Cake, set it and forget, easy to use FBL like the Ikon's or Brain's. So I don't think Ikon or Brain's have anything to worry about, since they are proven beginner friendly. One reviewer said it seemed more for people who REALLY like to tinker to get it REALLY dialed in. Again, can't wait Jeff, and thank you for the overview.
Thank you! I hope you find value in these reviews. Of course, I will always be honest! Radiomaster is not a piece of cake. The set up and be extremely difficult. I’m hoping with this FBL the set up is a lot easier than the actual transmitter itself, and if it is, I think it will be a very good selling product but! The reason they are a lot cheaper is because it is open source and you have to do everything. For example, you can grab a Spektrum Radio and have it set up in minutes where on a radiomaster it takes you quite a bit longer from my personal experience. If they can get there radios to be like spektrum as far as ease of setup they would take off big time. I hope this FBL is like iKon for setup if not it will out ALOT of people off.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, I find value in all your reviews since I found your channel a while back. Not to mention when I reached out in an Email, you wrote back in a very timely fashion. You are professional and kind. I even watched the Electric Scooter vid you just released, as well as gave it a thumbs up. Even though I'm not in the market for one right now, it's ALWAYS good to watch vids that are informative about technology, and I thought it was great. I have a Radiomaster TX16S, but I honestly don't know why as I never use it. I think it was the technology, and OpenTX seems like if it could be as you said, "User Friendly" someday, I agree that it would REALLY take off! (No Pun Intended) OpenTX started off good, but since it's all Volunteer Based programming, it's hard for people donating time to it to get out any updates and I feel that's what hurt it for a long time. EdgeTX picked up the ball where OpenTX left off and came out with some VERY much needed updates. OpenTX promised a touch screen years ago and several updates later, still no touch screen. After EdgeTX picked it up, touch screen was in the first update. I also liked that the radio is FULL of features, yet is priced very cheap. This is a tremendous step forward for people who want to get into the hobby of flying RC Airplanes or Helicopters. As you stated before, if they simplified this radio for the beginner and kept all of the current features making it a radio that grows with you, they could be a real player in the RC hobby.
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Yes. The open source interface offers many more possibilities and developments than any proprietary radio. In return, you get a much more complicated interface that is much less intuitive. But once you're familiar with the interface, you create a new model in minutes 🙂 The Rotorflight adjustment interface is not like an ikon. This is certainly what will exclude the majority of people
If you have ever set up a multirotor with Betaflight then it's not hard, it is however quite different than other FBLs which have mostly aped the Vbar's "fast and loose" style of setup. It's closest to the Futaba CGY which is also criticized for a non standard setup. I imagine F3C guys will love it for the same reasons they love the Futaba CGY i.e. you can do a very accurate head geometry setup and it has settings for tuning out swashplate interactions and crosstalk between pitch and roll.
Was wondering when you will review this Jeff, really curious about your later feedback on this. May just get this to replace my stock Goosky RS FBL
I have been really curious to see this FBL and play with it. More videos soon!
Yes been waiting for this on Spektrum. I ran OpenTX radios back in my fpv days but the headache that’s comes with setup isn’t worth it for me. Also curious to see one on a nitro model and if that’s even possible? Guessing the esc plug would just go into the throttle servo. I’m going to order one and play around as we’ll to see if it’s as easy as beta flight was to learn
I’m really curious to see how setup is as well. I hope to get it up this weekend! I was wondering about nitro as well. One issue is see is not enough ports as well as not being able to split power to two/Three ports. But! I’ve got a Trex 600 and Trex 700 nitro I could try it on!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I wish it had more port so it was possible to split power as well. I was going to do the same and try it on a Trex 600n pro I converted to fbl awhile back. It's been sitting in the corner anyways might as well do some science with it
@@calank923 I’m big on splitting power. I do not like running all power though one lead/port. Even with electric I’ll run BEC back up to its port or tied in with RPM. That’s exactly what I’ll do with mine lol it’s not getting flown and I’ve got three Trex 600n lol
Please get a elrs module for your tx16s whould love to see your response feedback. I enjoy your setup videos. I think it will work nicely on your raw420 direct drive or tb40 or nimbus 550.. Any one of those will be super cool to try out so I can copy the settings 😂😂
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In all honesty, my TX16S has put a really bad taste in my mouth from the issues I had with my original. But! I am always willing and happy to give everything a second shot but I will definitely be trying it in something I don’t really care about lol but from what I’ve seen and heard it is a really good system and works extremely well so I’m excited to see.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 What problems did you have with your Tx16? 😯
I have an old heli with a flybar I want to put in the air, would this work in place of a old school tail gyro?
@@gregoryholcomb7560 unfortunately not this one, you could get a ikon 2 FBL as there is a Fly bar section but the Nexus Does not have that option unless you go though and turn all gains to zero and just leave the tail gain, not sure if it works with this but I know ikon 2 and Vbar can be done like that.
Jeff, you read my mind! Thanks
I can be psychic sometimes! Lol
Interesting you didn't mention or chat about Rotorflight which is the primary reason the Nexus was made?
Nice . Look forward to the "How To " video.
Thank you!
yes sir this is awesome i got them as well
Looking forward to it!
Hi mate, please can you tell me honestly which gyro do you think is better? Radiomaster Nexus or Microbeast?thanks in advance
@@VipiModel-nk3ce hello! So my personal opinion neither. Best bang for your buck is ikon/Brain FBL. Easy to setup, tune and adjust to your liking. Great four minutes and never let me down. I’m still learning and playing with the NEXUS and have a setup video coming very soon but it’s alot of steps to make it work and setup. Micro beast is very outdated and not worth the money I’m today market.
Did you ever get to try this out? Looking at one for my RS4 Venom but would love to hear your opinion first!
Hey men , just waiting mine, nice vídeo ! would be amazing if you can install It and setup for your goosky rs4 Venom, have the same and i could learn with you the setup with rotorflight 2 hehe, nice vídeo as always 😊
I’m not sure which model I am going to use it in yet, but the venom might be the perfect one!
Jeff, are you making any progress with the Nexus?
@@toddkoffler5681 hey Todd, I need to get back on it. Been super busy with other projects that need to be done and out for a date coming.
Hey Jeff, I have the radio Master tx16s MK2. I know you generally prefer Vbar.
I have an S2, RS4, Raw 500, etc . If you are in my shoes, would you put the Nexus FBL on all of my helicopters or would you go with vbar instead?
I'm trying to simplify my setup by only having one radio. My understanding is v-bar will work on the S2 and RS4. My goal is to have one transmitter instead of two. I don't mind turning different FBLs if I were to use the vbar as an external rx.
Nice review sir,well done, might have to get one of these
Thank you! Let’s see how it is!
Hi, any updates on this?
@@tdogfpv I started the setup and have a lot to learn. It’s definitely not an easy setup.
Sweet. Was looking into this
I was to since they came out. Excited to see how it flys.
Hi Jeff, been a few months since this video. Do you have the set up video in the works?
Would be great if it had a setup wizard like iKON
Yes most do have a nice setup wizard. Watched Jonas's Video and will have to watch it 100X to set this thing up. When will a manual be posted???
@@michaeltrager4381 I’m a bit overwhelmed to setup from scratch.
It really would be nice but I have a feeling it does not lol
I watched it as well in boy or boy does it not look fun lol
@@westhobbiesrc8051 If you already know how to set up a multirotor with Betaflight then it's actually pretty logical. Rotorflight was originally forked from Betaflight 4.3 and while a lot of the code has been rewritten in RF2.0 it still uses the "skeleton" of Betaflight so it can use the same hardware drivers for the FC hardware and the configurator is still based on Betaflight's
F3C guys will probbaly love being able to precisely set up the servo geometry, most FBLs handle this in an "eh, close enough" way while with Rotorflight you can ensure than when the FBL tries to move a servo to 30 degrees it's really 30 degrees. you don't *have* to do a servo calibration but it's there if you want it.
My answer doesn't appear in the comments, which is strange. I don't know if you received it 🙂
That is strange? I never delete comments good or bad. I don’t see it? What was it?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 You asked me if the settings are like Vbar, I'm rewriting my answer here:
In a way, yes! The difference is that here you precisely adjust the P I D terms individually. Vbar uses the "Gain" parameter which harmoniously modifies the 3 terms automatically. Same thing with gyro filters. So this makes the adjustment much simpler and quicker.
With rotorflight BlackBox reader an the spectrum analyser, you will be able to target and precisely adjust the gyroscopic filter on each frequency.
You can refine each PID term directly in the field with your radio But with the BlackBox log you can also compare the setpoint signal and the gyroscopic values to refine the settings even further. It's absolutely incredible but much longer and more complicated to set... I don't think that the beginner and intermediate pilots who don't do hard 3D will find other interest than the affordable price But with good settings, experienced and extreme pilots can make it even better than a Vbar ! It's crazy !
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@@westhobbiesrc8051 I just tried here again and my message immediately disappears 😅
Any updates on the spektrum setup or is it still WIP?
@@corionisme in all honesty I’ve not touched it. I’ve been so busy with other videos, I’m working 8 videos as I type this lol but I promise I will get back to it. I apologize for the delay.
I also wish Ikon/Brain would be USB C. In fact, any modern electronic with USB should be C.
100%! That is one of my biggest pet peeves with them
Nice flight. so stable!
When will you set up the Nexus gyro? Been waiting for a while thank you
@@darrenprock6532 I did most of the setup. I had issues and put it side and have not gotten back to it. I’m trying to learn as much as possible about it before I post a setup video.
Джефф @ 5:26 ви почали говорити іншою мовою . 😮🤣😂🤣😂😇
That happens sometimes! 🤣
Im very interested in this tech and am researching using it as apart of the ecosystem for my Tron Gemini I want do after my RS4 Venom PNP kit.
Ive been pouring into 'RC Video Reviews' channel and the full series on Nexus. An interesting video I found last night addresses some caution over Theta servos and ELRS PWM receivers. th-cam.com/video/C5ZSZxNzcJc/w-d-xo.html (alot of the technical is still over my head as I am new to this hobby)
I would really like to see you do a 400-600 class build using a Nexus and maybe a TX16s rather than the spektrum/vbar/ikon bread and butter format.
Especially keen on your choice of receiver and setting up Rotorflight 2.
RS4 Venom base kit arrived over the weekend. Pairing it with a Nexus fc, elrs rp3h receiver, torq servos and hobbywing 80amp esc. Thanks to the Helidirect IRCHA sale, it was only about $100 more than the all in one goosky branded kit. So i got a smoking awesome avionics package for very little extra.
It's late, but I finally got my build station and tools all organized. I'm going to build my first helicopter this week!! Thanks for all your content and the build videos.
Next big thing? I doubt that. I do not understand how they can make this thing so full of features but at the same time require a rocket scientists degree to set it up. That makes little sense.
It was forked from Betaflight 4.3 and the devs have the same mindset as the Edge TX devs to "never hide anything from the user" It's like Linux i.e. very powerful but a lot of folks will always be too dumb to use it and just stick to Windows because it basically configures itself.
@@atomicskull6405 Your comparison with Linux and Windows is interesting, but I think it's missing a crucial point. The issue isn't about users being "too dumb" to use complex systems; it's about accessibility and user experience. Even the most powerful features are wasted if they are inaccessible to the majority of users. A good product should balance complexity with usability, offering advanced options for power users while ensuring a smooth setup process for everyone else.
Take Betaflight, for example-yes, it's incredibly powerful, but its complexity can be a barrier. The same goes for the new flybarless controller. If the goal is to advance the hobby and attract more enthusiasts, developers should consider how they can make the technology more approachable without sacrificing functionality. After all, a tool that's easy to use can still be powerful and sophisticated.