one important fact modern brits like to ignore is that for most of the time slavery existed in america, we were still colonies and citizens of the british empire.
Considering Lincoln wrote the Gettysburg Address, largely considered one of the greatest speeches in history, I would say calling him a great orator is a safe bet.
Lincoln was also a realist. He contemplated what occured in Latin America, Europe. Slavery was dead and the end was inevitable. Heavy is the crown...moreso for a man who tries to be good.
Lincoln was also inducted into the national wresting hall of fame. During his stint as a wrestler, he lost only 1 match. I dont know how many he fought in total though.
The Gettysburg Address is the most famous, and much shorter than was expected. What was in the video just before Kabir's commenting about Lincoln's reputation as an orator were snippets from his first inaugural address, which is famous along with his second inaugural address and the Lincoln-Douglas debates. If you've ever heard the phrase "the better angels of our nature", that was coined in the first inaugural address.
The book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" lives on in the phrase "Uncle Tom," which is slang for a subservient black man. In the book, Uncle Tom was a house slave (that is, a slave who had domestic duties instead of doing farm labor). House slaves were often resented by other slaves. However, Uncle Tom in the story was actually a heroic figure. He refused to reveal what he knew about some escaped slaves, and ultimately his master, Simon Legree, beat him to death. The book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was the best-selling novel and second-best-selling book of the 19th century. I haven't read it myself, but I've heard that it's not well-written. Regardless, it convinced many people of the evils of slavery. Senator Preston Brooks really did beat Senator Charles Sumner with a cane while the Senate was in session, and people really did send Brooks replacements for the cane that he broke in the attack. Slavery was even worse than described in the video. One horrible aspect is what happened to many slave women. I'll try to put this delicately, so as not to cause TH-cam to block this comment because of forbidden words. Let's just say that slavery put women under the control of men who had absolute power over them. The result was that female slaves would, against their wills, have children with their masters. Those children would also become slaves, which is really sick when you think about it. Note that it was Robert E. Lee who captured John Brown. Remember that name. The question of whether a state could withdraw from the union was not explicitly covered in the Constitution, which is the document that gives the framework for how the government is supposed to operate. It's like a set of laws overseeing all other laws. The story of Grace Bedell and Lincoln's beard is sort-of true. She was a child who wrote Lincoln a letter suggesting he'd look good with whiskers. This is supposed to have convinced him to grow a beard. As for whether Lincoln was a great orator: In my opinion, and the opinions of many others, he was the greatest orator in the country's history. His language was beautiful and stirring. The Gettysburg Address, one of his greatest speeches, is covered later in this series. I believe his Second Inaugural Address is at least as good. One thing that's amazing about this is that Lincoln had little formal schooling. That is, he was largely self-educated.
I'm sure my other comment will get buried so I'll just say the phrase Uncle Tom is not from the book but the plays which flipped his character from Heroic to the current version we associate with the phrase. Its just with the minstrel shows of the late 19th and early 20th century mostly erased from history many people only know about the book and make the mistake of associating the book with the phrase.
As to oration skills, Lincoln’s words at Gettysburg followed those of Edward Everett who was considered one of the greatest orators of the times. The speeches were being delivered at the dedication for the Gettysburg military cemetery (for those who had fallen during the battle months earlier.) Everett’s speech was over 13,000 words long and lasted 2 hours. Lincoln then spoke just 271 magnificent words about humanity, morals and ideals. This brief speech from the President of the US. Its eloquence cannot not be over emphasized. Everett himself said Lincoln had been infinitely more on spot. Kinda like he just tore up his own speech and walked off.
@@kabirconsiders just listen man, even though its not his voice it's one of the simplest greatest speeches in human history th-cam.com/video/CHAyepp7ypY/w-d-xo.html
Calling what the slaver owners were doing as protecting their livelihoods is giving them way to much credit, as we saw after the civil war you can still make a lot of money by paying people to pick cotton, and even without slaves they'd still have been rich. What they were doing was protecting the highest profit margin they could get and not caring who they tread on in the process.
Actually economists and historians largely agree that slavery held economic development of the south back. When workers are motivated by fear they do the minimum amount of work. Employees are more self-motivated and do more than just what hte overseer demands while they're watching. Capitalism 1, Mercantalism 0.
@@davidwiley8752 You're going off the modern fear of being fired versus the fear of torture and possibly death. Considering all the things slaves were tasked with building over the millennia, I think their work ethic is just fine.
Think everyone is ignoring the racial ideology, not just economics that supported slavery, just look at what happened to the free slaves after there was no more economic motivator slavery. Jim Crow, massacre and disenfranchisement
John Browns body was a song popular up north after he was killed, the Union Army would March into battle singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic which was sung to the cadence of John Browns body...glory, glory, glory, Hallelujah.
Yes, most of Lincoln's speeches were beautifully written. He and his wife both suffered from depression. The fact that he persevered in spite of those difficulties and accomplished all he did really makes him stand out among Presidents
Considering that Lincoln gave the "Gettysburg Address," one of the most famous speeches ever in the history of the U.S. that he came up with on the spot and scribbled on a random piece of paper he had on him, a speech that many American school kids learn to quote for class even to this day, I'd say - yes - he was definitely a great orator.
I cant remember his nsme but someone that spoke for 2 hours before him said Lincoln said more, delivered it better and touched everyone in a few minutes than he did in his whole speech
Can’t wait to see your part 2. I am very close to Gettysburg where the war was turned. The history of that town is amazing but what’s not in the American history books is shameful. The residents of Gettysburg were suffering even after the war.
I am so jealous. If I lived close to Gettysburg I would go there and walk all the time. I am from North Carolina and I have been to Gettysburg 4 times. Beautiful town.
@@stonewall01 We love going there. Next time you’re there try Garryowen Irish Pub for dinner. That’s our favorite restaurant. Take a candlelight ghost tour. It’s more history than spooky.
Same!! I live right in between Gettysburg and Antietam. My favorite places ever. I completely agree with you on everything they miss in history books though. It’s a shame.
@@danheisey9052 I don't know when I will be going back but first chance I get I will take it. I definitely will try that out. Thanks for the suggestion!
It should be known the reason no one intervened during the caning of Sumner was because two of Brook's friends held the congress members who were present at gun point. Southern hospitality.
Oversimplified: "Congressmen were going armed on the floor of the Senate, which is *never* a good sign..." Me: ::spends all spring observing disputes over metal detectors at the entrance to the House of Representatives, gnaws nervously on fingernails:
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes of Ted Kennedy's, that Washington DC combines Northern hospitality with Southern efficiency. (Kabir, the European version of this joke is that early internet meme about how Heaven is a place run by the Swiss, where the cops are English, the lovers are French, the chefs are Italian, the mechanics are German etc. etc. and meanwhile Hell is a place organized by the Italians, where the cops are German, the lovers are Swiss, the chefs are English, the mechanics are French... Basically if there were ever two pairs of words that never belonged together when referring to the United States, "Northern hospitality" and "Southern efficiency" are very much them!)
Something my history teacher always stressed the importance of knowing whenever we talked about the Civil War; It wasn't started *over* slavery, but it was started *because* of slavery. I don't think he explains it very well, making everyone look like they didn't actually care about the situation when a lot to most did, but there were many, many other issues between the North and South that caused the civil war, like the issue of tariffs that unfairly favored the North over the South to name one.
Sumner was actually beaten almost to death. He got traumatic brain injury out of it. Afterwards, he basically suffered from chronic pains and PTSD for the rest of his life. Brooks was tried for it but he was found not guilty. He resigned for that term, but reelected for the next term. He didn't get to serve a new term though, because he died of a disease that no one probably has anymore. Also iirc, the South was also trying to minimize industrialisation because if not, people would question the need for slavery.
Many of the founders kicked the issue down the road, not just to avoid the USA collapsing before it started, but because most people really thought slavery was on the way out. After the War of 1812 Britain started enforcing a ban on the slave trade from Africa and the USA signed a treaty to agree not to import any more slaves. Meanwhile plantations and farms focused on tobacco just weren't as profitable as they once were. It was thought keeping slaves wouldnt be worth the effort in a couple decades, and many Founders freed their slaves on their death and many were in support of compensating slave owners to free their slaves. However this all changed when the cotton gin was invented. Suddenly cotton was hugely profitable. And the textile factories in the Northern States and in Europe were always demanding more cotton! So the Southern landowners of large plantations decided just keeping the slaves was the way to go. And with importing slaves being illegal, they started breeding them, and the profitability of the slave trade went way up again.
Thank you, Kabir, for your curiosity, smart questions, willingness to see different viewpoints and your virtual friendship from across the ocean. Keep up the great videos!
12:37 Mark! I haven't read the book by author Arthur Hailey nor seen the remake of the original "ABC" television mini-series "Roots" but I saw the original version. For some of us it was required school homework! But seeing it will fill in the blanks for you. Because of the nature of it, the "FCC" gave the network permission to use certain language and show naked slaves, in order for the dramatic points to be clearly made and not ignored! So it was one of the first shows to have warnings about the content as did "The Holocaust" over on "NBC". 😮
Hi Kabir, I'm so happy to have found your site... I've become a bit addicted, as I'm learn as much about my country as yours and I'm almost 60. Now watching the Worst Presidents segment and needed to stop it to give input about George Bush and No Child Left Behind. It changed schools from learning at the teacher and students needs to learning to pass tests. If you have a child that doesn't learn in that narrow box... they are more likely to become discouraged, hate learning and even drop out more readily. My last 2 daughters were in middle school during this change and the frustration I watched them change from young people who were learning vs trying to memorize and meet standards set by the government under the guise of no child left behind. It reminded me of what had been happening in the healthcare field since Regan era. As an aide then nurse, I endured as everything become about documentation rather than doing my profession, takinging good and safe care of my patients. I eventually worked for the school system as a nurse and witnessed these poor teachers trying so hard to meet all needs...just as I had working in a hospital. I eventually became ill from 3 autoimmune diseases from the stress. I tried many types of nursing until losing my ability to work in 2011 and having heart attack in 2016.And the safety net system has been completely torn apart so the rich don't have to pay taxes. I lost everything, including my home and am about to have my second medical bankruptcy. The stress in this country is toxic... I have the feeling it's about eventually turning all public institutions/ options (like medicare) over to the private sector. It's happening in every part of the American Public works...Civil Servant work was something to be proud of doing, like a mailman or road worker, with good benefits, vacation, healthcare and pension. Union jobs were too. Now they have brainwashed people into thinking only hard work with no time off is the way to go... that only certain jobs get good healthcare and most people have to work more than 1 part time jobs without benefits to make ends meet. That Civil Servants and Union jobs are just lazy and taking your money. I just watched your Civil War selection and see we are there once again... funnily enough the party names are reversed but what the underlying causes are continue to be the same. Capitalism/money vs Empathy and caring for our families and each other. Sorry about this supposed little response took on a life of it's own but these videos are bringing out my anger of America and what we have become. America doesn't care about its citizens or the planet... as long as you are feeding the corporate machine. I'm curious if life there is as ideal as I watch on shows like Doc Martin. I do love the area I live. I will look for a video of the Olympic Peninsula so you can see the beauty we do have to offer in Washington .. in fact the entire Pacific Northwest has something for everybody. From coast to rainforest to mountains to deserts... all within a few hundred miles. Definitely somewhere for you to target on a trip here... and of course Seattle and Portland for urban lifestyles. And if you get homesick.... I live across the Straights of Juan de Fuca and Victoria, BC, Canada... a place I love to go and they brag is more British than England. Thank you for what you do. Pam
Lmao the parties are not reversed. The Democrats were founded by slave owners, Democrats tried to split the country in half and drove us into civil war, then when we took away their slaves the democrats created the kkk, then came Jim Crowe and segregation. Once that was abolished they began slithering into the urban centers where they have led a reign of terror for over 40 years. Joe Biden authored the crime bill that incarcerated thousands of Americans on drug charges, specifically aimed at abusing minorities, his mentor was a Democrat senator that used to be a member of the kkk and he gave a eulogy at his funeral alongside Hillary Clinton. Statics prove the south has become less racist the more red it's become and it's once again the democrats pushing for segregation. In 2020 the democrats tried to repeal California's civil rights laws. I voted no on the proposition, but you'll find shit like that only on democrat ballots. Full on clown show
2:45 Mark! Kavir, greetings! 🖖 Yes, it is! Thank you very much for noticing the "KFC" reference! So many others failed! They didn't even notice the "Colonel Sanders" look-alike! I hope you do! 😊
I know it's "Oversimplified", but one aspect of the pre-Civil War debates was that the Industrial Revolution was in the process of making slavery redundant. The question for Southerners was what to do with 4 million ex-slaves roaming the countryside, with no education, no capital, no property and a variety of legitimate axes to grind. One "solution" was to extend slavery westwards, with slaveowners selling their soon to be excess-to-needs slaves to settlers headed west, and putting the PHYSICAL barrier of the Mississippi River between the bulk of ex-slaves and the Southern heartland. All of these disputes about states entering as free/slave was seen as a matter of self-defense among the Southern aristocracy. They were a small minority in Southern states, but they had the money and the power, you know, and drove the entire thing.
No. The south didn't industrialize because there economy was based on slavery. It was not on the verge of ending but the center piece to there economy. It's why after the civil war sharecropping became big as the South basically continued with the same economy. It will not be to much later in US history that the south begins to modernize.
I disagree. Steam engines, telegraphs, mechanical planters and reapers, chemical fertilizers, railroads, all were not unknown in the South. Within a generation or two, they would have transformed the economic model -- had the war not intervened -- just as computers, automation, artificial intelligence and access to overseas labor affect our economies today. The reasons why the South did not industrialize after the war were Reconstruction, bankruptcy, and devastation of both landscape and population. Recovery from that was also hampered by the First World War and the Great Depression. History does not occur in a vacuum: we shouldn't ignore events and trends that were already in motion or about to occur to support a narrative that otherwise makes no sense -- i.e. why would Southerners NOT partake and make use of new technology that would have made their lives easier and their pockets fuller, and relieved them of the problem of what to do with four million ex-slaves in their midst just to keep an inefficient sharecropping arrangement "for old time's sake"? The point being: they couldn't take advantage of it because they lost the war and experienced occupation, reparations (to the Federal Government to pay war costs), and a destroyed economic base that needed to be righted, first. This does not happen immediately; it will take decades,. Industrialization (on a large scale) of the South would await FDR and the New Deal with it's alphabet soup organizations, particularly the ones that would bring ELECTRICITY (and nuclear weapons assembly) to the South on a grand scale. The Second World War put southern industry on par with that of the north, particularly in shipbuilding and aircraft production as industry everywhere expanded...especially all those areas with the new supplies of electricity. Recovery from 1865 would not come until 1945.
@@matthewnoto9380 I think the problem with your statement is that it IS sort of reaching. You are saying “why wouldn’t they have done these things” when really there is not much contextual argument to back that up. They wanted to keep the slave population. PERIOD. Their agricultural based lifestyle made them EXTREMELY rich and a big part of that was having a massive population that did not have to be paid to perform the labor. There was no advancement in industry because they didn’t see the need for it because they were making SO much money at the time…at least the wealthy land owners that is. So saying they were scared of a bunch of free slaves killing them cause there was no other place for them seems like a MASSIVE reach and you assuming a conclusion that is beyond what the southerners that seceded said themselves. They documented their reasons for succeeding and fighting to make more slave territory and it did not say because they fear roving packs of black people would murder them out of revenge (as an aside, that excuse sounds really racist when you think about it but I mean…they owned slaves so…it fits the part). If you have actual text that supports this hypothesis/theory of yours, I would like to read it. Please send a link or something. Hopefully, it’s based in source material from that time and has citations. Thanks.
@@fizzychizzy I think the problem with your statement is that it ignores historical fact. Freed slaves were already being shipped back to Africa long before the Civil War even started (It was called "Back-to-Africa" and the main reason why it failed was because few slaves actually wanted to go to Africa, I would think they had good reasons not to). And yes, many of them from the South. You ever hear of the country of Liberia? Colony of Former American slaves. You know of Sierra-Leone? Colony of former American slaves. Did you know that wasn't the only program for deporting ex-slaves between roughly 1820 and 1861, and that some started even earlier? Did you know of Confederate plans to conquer parts of South America to export slaves to plantations there? Lincoln, himself, had put forward plans to ship slaves to Mexico in order to preserve the Union. That's all historical fact. You can look it all up. No hypothesis/theory here. You obviously have Google: do your own research. Don't be lazy. Learn for yourself. Now, what's funny here is that you make an economic argument -- the Confederacy wanted to keep their slaves because it made them rich -- without looking at the other side of the coin -- slaves were an expense. Sure, you didn't have to pay them wages, but you still did have to feed and house them, care for them when they got sick so as to not infect all the other slaves, and then you had to pay some form of security to keep them from running away, or pay bounty hunters to chase down runaway slaves. Ever since capitalism was invented the rules have been better, cheaper, faster, and with greater quality, and the answer has always been -- automate it, wherever possible, because people are unpredictable and unreliable. That's often how capitalism works and how rational people behave. If you have the mechanical means to do labor that was once done by muscle power, you take advantage of it, for the simple reason that machines do not get sick, they don't need to be fed, they don't need to be guarded, they work 24/7/365, they don't make mistakes, they never complain, and they won't murder you in your sleep or revolt. When you're bankrupt because you've lost a war you had no chance of winning to begin with, you've lost your property, the government has taken your capital, and there is a concerted and deliberate effort undertaken to ensure that you do not recover from the disaster (as a matter of government policy, no less!), then all those fancy new machines and efficient new methods are out of your reach. And insinuating I'm a racist? Talk about a MASSIVE reach. This is a TH-cam response thread. If you want long passages of someone else's words with footnotes, corroborations and attributions, pick up a book or ask Alexa and pray her algorithm isn't biased to produce only Google-approved results. That's how people "study" things nowadays, anyway, and then we wonder why ignorance is so prevalent (I am not implying you are ignorant, I'm generalizing).
@@matthewnoto9380 u are right u can't assume that history proceeds as the way it does in our timeline. But u r wrong about the state of slavery at the time. The south was not going to end slavery anytime soon as it was the lifeblood of the economy. The south would continue as an agricultural economy that would spend be on the verge of war every decade. Being how the world view the institution at the time along with the general conservative political leaning of the south. I believe it is fair to say that the industrial revolution doesn't take over and the South looks more like Venezuela today.
Yes, Lincoln was a great orator. He has given some of the greatest speeches in American History such as the Gettysburg Address, his Second Inaugural Address, or the letter he wrote to Mrs. Bixby of Boston. I’d definitely recommend reading them.
The interesting thing is that at the time the Gettysburg address was considered a small thing and of no particular importance. It was just a 3 minute summation after an hour long speech that was far more typical at the time. It got reprinted in several papers because it's brevity allowed it to be. It was only with the passage of time that it was recognized as the rhetorical bombshell it really was.
One thing that I never see talked about is the British royal family's responsibility for slavery. They are the ones who owned the colonies and brought the slaves in. In the revolutionary war the south was loyal to the British because they were the ones buying the cotton and tobacco. Everything was being shipped back over. How much of the royal family's money is tied to slavery?
1) At 4:46, Tom Hanks is on the assembly line! 2) "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was the second-best selling book (after the Bible) in the U.S. for all of the nineteenth century. It was also a huge best-seller in the UK. During the Civil War the book's author Harriet Beecher Stowe visited President Lincoln. According to her daughter, when Lincoln met Stowe he said to her "so you are the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war." 3) Despite the inhumanity of slavery, there were slave marriages, if the slave owner approved. These marriages were legally meaningless but culturally important. Some slave marriages used the phrase "till death or distance do us part" in the vows. 4) You are absolutely correct that the difficulty in ending slavery was money. It's difficult to get precise numbers, but adjusted for inflation the 4 million slaves might have been worth more than $200 billion in today's money. But at 13:00 in your video, Oversimplified was referring to white people in the North who owned small farms. They could not compete economically with the huge southern plantations (farms) operated using free labor. But I'm not sure how much of a problem this was, because the southern plantations mostly grew crops not grown in the North--cotton, tobacco, sugar, and rice. 5) The only relevant document as to whether secession is legal is the Constitution, and it says nothing. There is a minority school of thought which believes that since the states were independent or "sovereign" before voluntarily joining the Union, they had the right to leave. But there are 2 problems with this idea: one, the U.S. Supreme Court has never issued a ruling on the legality of secession; and two, if secession is legal, only the states of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Texas had been independent. The other 6 states which seceded had been Federal Territories prior to being states and thus had never been sovereign. 6) Lincoln was one of the greatest writers in the history of the English language. What made him even more remarkable was that he had one year of formal schooling. He taught himself everything, including the law, while living among poor, illiterate people. Google his 2 great speeches: the Gettysburg Address and his second Inaugural Address. They are short speeches and his prose is good enough to be considered poetry.
Lincoln and the Republican Party grew partly out of the "Free Soil" movement of the mid-19th Century. This was a form of frontier populism that held that every person should have the right to benefit or profit from the labor they performed. So, the small landholders and workers of the free states in the West (now the Midwest) saw slave labor as unnatural, and they feared that it would undercut the small farms, mines and saw mills, etc. they relied on to gain an economic toe-hold in new territories.
@@johnalden5821 I remember the term "free soil" from my U.S. history class 35 years ago, but I had forgotten there was a short-lived (1848-1856) party by that name which was a precursor to the Republican Party. Here's a quote from the Wikipedia page for the Free Soil Party: The 1848 Free Soil platform openly denounced the institution of slavery, demanding that the federal government "relieve itself of all responsibility for the existence and continuance of slavery" by abolishing slavery in all federal districts and territories. The platform declared: "[W]e inscribe on our banner, 'Free Soil, Free Speech, Free Labor, and Free Men,' and under it we will fight on, and fight forever, until a triumphant victory shall reward our exertions." Unlike the Liberty Party, the 1848 Free Soil Party platform did not address fugitive slaves or racial discrimination, nor did it call for the abolition of slavery in the states. The party nonetheless earned the support of many former Liberty Party leaders by calling for abolition wherever possible, the chief goal of the Liberty Party. The Free Soil platform also called for lower tariffs, reduced postal rates, and improvements to harbors. The 1852 party platform more overtly denounced slavery, and also called for the diplomatic recognition of Haiti. Many Free Soilers also supported the temperance movement.
@@JPMadden Exactly. Free Soilers were not radical abolitionists in most cases, but they did detest slavery and generally opposed its extension westwards. You could say that their position was not primarily because they identified with the suffering of the slaves as much as their belief that the "Slave Power" in the South was destroying democracy and free labor rights. The context helps explain the views of many people in the northern states west of the Appalachians -- importantly including Abraham Lincoln, who saw the Free Soil philosophy as his natural constituency. BTW/the emphasis in the platform on infrastructure improvements and lower prices reflects some of the views of northern Whigs, going back to Henry Clay's time.
Lincoln was a great orator. I've heard that he was also a damned funny one, & that if he hadn't gone into the law & politics he would've made a hell of a comedian. Or, what passed for one back then - a humourist, along the lines of Mark Twain.
All accounts say that Lincoln had a wealth of stories he picked up from the backwoods area where he grew up. He would use these to "break the ice" in mixed gatherings and to warm people up in negotiations. The down side is that people often took this to mean Lincoln was an uneducated rube (when he was, in fact, the greatest political strategist of the time). But Lincoln could also use the stories slyly to cut people down to size, and his targets would often not realize it until the people around them were laughing at them. He was a master of political theater.
In actuality Lincoln was one of the worlds great speech writers. But as an orator he was extremely wanting. It seems his high pitched voice and soft spoken delivery made what he said difficult to understand. People began to realize his greatness after reading his speeches, but were completely underwhelmed by his oration. Note that the Republican party from its inception was the anti-slavery party. That changed with the 1964 Civil Rights Act enacted by a southern Democratic president, Lyndon Johnson. Almost overnight the so call Dixie-crats changed parties and became Republicans. The reason slavery wasn't addressed in the Constitution was A) Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were slave owners and B) When the Declaration of Independence was written the tacit understanding was that it and the forthcoming representative government was for the exclusive club of middle to upper class white men. No, there is nothing in the constitution to prevent secession. There is also nothing in the constitution from preventing a presidential order to send in troops to prevent or punish states from secession. There is nothing in the constitution from seizing all industry, monies, tariffs from these states and blockading international trade, nor is there any law preventing the Federal government from halting all Federal funding to these states. Currently most of the old Confederate states are the poorest states in the country, needing 15 to 30 billion dollars more from the government than they give to the Federal pot to survive and/or balance their budgets. Secession now would quickly turn those states into third world countries with the military remaining on the side of the remaining Union.
Bro wtf. I think you’re gonna end up knowing more about America than most Americans with all these random reactions you’re doing and I’m fully here for it
@@kabirconsiders slavery is a sin on our nation but our nation fought its bloodiest war and almost tore itself apart to eradicate it. Almost 500,000 union soldiers, mostly white died to end slavery. When people here talk about it being racist, we paid such a high price to free all people and it seems like so many forget that.
Yes, Lincoln is remembered for his speeches, among other things, especially his address at the dedication of the national military cemetery at Gettysburg.
while secession didn't have any rules on it set by the founding fathers. what's important to note is that Only the southerners saw it as succession the northerners saw it as an illegal rebellion happening in their country. the war would go on to solve the question of which one is it.
Oversimplified really does a good job of putting out some of the bare bones in a comedic way. But if you want a more in depth look, I highly recommend Arun Shei's channel on the subject with his series 'checkmate lincolnites!' It's done in the style of a comedic debate between a union and confederate soldier arguing points from modern lost causers.
One video I’d recommend is on marquis de Lafayette who was a hero of the American revolution even tho he was French not American, become one of Washington’s most trusted generals
I have ancestors who were on both sides of the conflict. Some owned slaves, some fought on the Confederate side, and I also had some who worked in the Underground Railroad.
About debating from Wikipedia "The Lincoln-Douglas debates (also known as The Great Debates of 1858) were a series of seven debates between Abraham Lincoln, the Republican Party candidate for the United States Senate from Illinois, and incumbent Senator Stephen Douglas, the Democratic Party candidate. Until the 17th Constitutional Amendment of 1913, senators were elected by their respective state legislatures, so Lincoln and Douglas were trying to win control of the Illinois General Assembly for their respective parties".
In 1976 Alex Haley wrote a book called Roots. He researched his family tree/bloodline all the way back to slavery. It was a made for TV mini series that came out in Jan '77'. Everyone watched it.
There wasn't anything written in the Constitution specifically at the time. I have a feeling they changed that after the Civil War, but I couldn't say for certain. I'm guessing that the Founding Fathers didn't really envision something like the Civil War happening. That's the only explanation I can think of for them not even mentioning secession in the document.
There wasn't anything in the Constitution that specifically allowed or disallowed slavery. It wasn't mentioned in the Constitution but it was justified as property rights (the slaves were property). At the end of the Civil War the 13th Amendment was ratified which explicitly banned slavery. As to secession, the Constitution doesn't say. For a state to join the Union is well documented but nothing mentions how to leave the Union. There has been talk of secession recently with all the polarization in today's politics. If a state were to leave the Union it would depend on how the country reacts I suppose.
Fun fact and it was put into the video, the little girl who told Lincoln he was ugly and needed to grow a beard was real. Grace Bedell(her name was put under the little girl), actually sent Lincoln a letter along those lines.
Aw man. Please go down this rabbit hole. Maybe you already have and I need to catch up. But the over simplified videos are AMAZING. I'm blown away with how much information they can pack into such a small amount of time. I'm gonna stroll through your content to find it but, if you haven't already PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do "the history of the entire world, I guess".
In 1949 interview an old man and ex-slave was asked what he'd do if they brought back slavery he said "I'd take a gun and just end it all right away; because you're nothing but a dog, you're not a thing but a dog but a dog..." I can't put it better than that. One important thing to remember is that even though the North was definitely on the side of angels in that war, the reason more and more of them had become in favor of abolition is due to way of life differences. In an agrarian area (like the south) profits are figured by sell price minus price to make the product including the cost of labor. In an industrial community profit is measured by cost to purchase X product - cost of labor to make something with product + # of potential buyers. Slavery in that system makes no sense because although it reduces cost of production, each person in the system not earning money will never buy your product and the North had so many immigrants the factory owners etc. had to pay its workers a smaller amount anyway, but they all needed lanterns and oil, and shirts, and trousers etc. Lincoln was great at speeches. Read the Gettysburg address.
Just to give a little more context: Slavery is seen as America's "Original Sin", but it was brought here by Europeans. The Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, French and British, mainly, who after killing off the native labor and running out of prisoners, debtors and "enemies of the state" to exile to The New World, needed labor for a variety of economic reasons. The nature of slavery varied between regions in the British Colonies (both those founded by Britain and those taken as prizes of war). In New England, there wasn't much slavery because those colonies were "chartered" as a means of getting rid of undesirables. The "Pilgrims" who landed at Plymouth Rock were religious dissenters who had already fled England for the Netherlands because their religious beliefs made them enemies of the Crown. The Stewart Kings (I think I was Charles I) "allowed" them to build colonies in the belief that if the sea voyage didn't kill them, the natives and disease would. The nature of the landscape made New England not very suitable for the kinds of cash crops that were big sellers in European markets. The Mid-Atlantic region (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware) were initially settled by the Dutch. New York was then known as New Amsterdam, and the city still bears it's Dutch heritage (in place names like "Brooklyn", "The Bronx", and my hometown, "Staten Island"). Delaware began as a small Swedish colony. There wasn't much slavery here, either. By the way, this is the origin of the word "Yankee" -- it referred to English sailors and merchants from New England trading in New Amsterdam. They would buy up all the cheese in New Amsterdam because it would keep on long sea voyages. The Dutch called the English "John Cheese", which is pronounced "Yawn-Keys" in Dutch. It is the South (From Virginia south) where the problem begins in earnest. These were founded as "Crown Colonies", business ventures under Royal Charter, and they were established to satisfy the demand for expensive crops in Europe, such as tobacco, indigo, and sugar. These Crown Colonies were initially funded by the Crown and the English nobility and were established solely for profit. Labor, however, was something they didn't wish to pay for (cuts into profits). The first "slaves" in the South were "indentured servants", mainly Scots-Irish and Welsh who were either criminals, debtors, or considered otherwise undesirable. The supply of these quickly ran out, and so English merchants and planters of the time availed themselves of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade between Africa and the New World, which was controlled by the Spanish and Portuguese. The Portuguese had been slave-trading along the West African coast for 100 years by this time, to find labor for their colonies in Brazil. ALL of the Europeans desperately needed slave labor for their plantations in the Caribbean (where the main exports were sugar, coffee, tobacco, and rum). Europeans established a way of life here, and then hypocritically insist they're either not at fault or morally superior to Americans. We're the descendants of Europeans, you morons! If we learned bad lessons, we learned them from Europeans! I'm not excusing America's complicity or history,. just presenting an argument -- based upon historical fact -- that is NEVER mentioned in these discussions.
The reason Canada isn't remembered as being slave-having, native murderers like their southern neighbor is because they were still Great Britain when they did it. If they'd gained independence in the same year as the US rather than 100 years later, they'd have an almost identical history. Although, on that note, they also completely outlawed slavery 30 years before the US fought over it *because* they were still Great Britain. The population of Canada was largely fine with outlawing slavery because a far lower percentage of the country's economy was centered around farming as compared to 'Murica. I'm also not condoning slavery. It's obviously cruel and evil but it's also, sadly, something nearly every region of the world is guilty of at some point in their history. The US just gets a lot of attention over their part in it because they (1.) were the same country they are today when it happened and (2.) are still dealing with the long term repercussions of having so much slavery rather late into history compared to other European colonies.
I would disagree with 1 very strongly. The populations of the original 13 colonies were radically transformed by successive waves of immigration. It is hardly the monolithic extension of British institutions it once was, or is commonly thought to be. And even in the days when slavery was in full swing, half the country was against it and in the cities of the North the freedman was common. One of those freedmen , Crispus Attucks, was among the victims of the Boston Massacre. Thousand of others fought with Washington. Canada was too cold to grow cotton, Christina, the frontier even wilder and more sparsely-populated than the 13 Colonies, and that's why there were few slaves there. Not because of any innate virtue among "Canadians" of the time. As for the Canadians not slaughtering the natives, that's a laugh.
@@kyselykovac2477 Five paragraphs is hardly "an essay", but I guess by today's low educational standards, it might as well be a novel. As for being the first to outlaw it, take a look at what happened in Europe between 1930 and 1950, and see if your moral victory lap is still warranted.
@@kabirconsiders No problem. I watched many reactions to this video, only you pointed out how much the economy, that is, money, affects interpersonal relations. Which we see now. People, fearing for their own existence, begin to consider everyone who could endanger them as enemies. And where people feel threatened, violence is the next step. I hope you have more reactions.
17:00 The Declaration of Independence is not a controlling document. In essence, it was an open letter sent to the King. Most people, including me, forget that the United States of American as formed buy the Constitution is the SECOND United States. The FIRST United States was formed under the Articles of Confederation (1781) and the SECOND United States was formed under the Constitution (1789). From what I understand (and my knowledge is vague and fragmentary) the "President" in terms of the Confederation was more like a leader of Parliament then the head of a separate triad of government as with have with the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches we have todo in the US.
The Caning story was wild but not as crazy as the 3rd Vice President of the U.S holding a grudge after he lost the presidential election and later an election for Governor of NY and killing a political rival in a duel as a result.
The Declaration would go against slavery... our Constitution addresses slavery in a way that is not positive: its listed them as 3/5 a person in counting for representation, mentions that escaped enslaved people were not free, the taxation of slavery, and that slavery could be addressed after 1808 and was constitutionally legal until then
Susan B Anthony's brother was with Brown at Pottawatomie Creek and Brown detailed his Harper's Ferry plan to Douglas her sister and Frederick Douglas at her home (now a museum) in Rochester, they all told him not to do it
Huge piece of information that is left out or ignored. While the South did rely on slavery, it was for ECONOMIC reasons more than racial or moral grounds. After all, at this point in history, the Southern USA was producing roughly 70% of GLOBAL supplies of Tobacco, Corn, Cotton and Grain. And a huge chunk of that production was RESTRICTED to be shipped out to the other countries THROUGH the Northern States and their ports, or through the Northern "shipyards". So, even if you were able to ship cotton from Alabama to the UK, you were likely to be shipping it off to NY first, or overseas BY a "Northern Owned Shipping company". So yeah, the North became more "industrial", but it also relied HEAVILY upon Southern resources. As such, without a reliable means of KEEPING UP WITH PRODUCTION... The South to "lose slavery over a short period" would have resulted in massive economic collapse across vast parts of the South in general. Also, the VAST majority of plans to 'end slavery" at that time had NO METHOD of supporting all of these suddenly free slaves. Meaning that while facing a massive "economic collapse", the South would be facing a massive "state support programs" to help freed slaves. Or at MINIMUM an extremely expensive program of shipping them back to Africa or simply OUT of the Southern states. So, yeah, slavery ITSELF was an important ECONOMIC concern for the South. But the "sudden end of slavery" was ALSO a huge ECONOMIC concern for the South as well. With that in mind, the South wanted to keep slavery UNTIL a better method of production was available, and TECHNOLOGICALLY that wasn't possible at the time. Many experts over the years have pointed out that with a more "modern system" of production put into place, that slavery would have ended in the South around 1900 or so. Basically within 50 yrs or so of the Civil War, the "slave issue" would have been ended for ALL the USA, with the Southern states most likely paying to ship "freed slaves" OUT of Southern states to the Mid-West or East-coast.
Watch the movie "Lincoln" with Daniel Day-Lewis. It was about how he was able to get the House of Representatives to vote for the 13th amendment. Great movie.
One of the problems with the US political system is how two parties are locked into power. (What follows is what I've heard and believe to be true but is not authoritative beyond a few web searches...) It used to be that individual parties printed their own ballots with their candidates selected. People could select those ballots and drop them in the box. If they wanted to vote for some candidates from one party and some from another the voter would cut the ballots into sections containing the candidate they wanted (this was called "splitting the ticket", a term which survives to today for people who don't vote a "straight ticket", meaning All Republican/Democrat/Libertarian) and paste those sections together. In the 1880s the Australian Ballot System where the government prints the ballot and parties had to meet the government criteria to be on the ballot. This new system locked in place the two predominate parties of the time, the Democrats and the Republicans. No longer could you have a brand new party form and have their first Presidential candidate win occur (like with what happened with the Republicans and Abraham Lincoln). Having only two major parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, you eventually end up with extreme polarization. We would be better off with three or four equal parties to avoid polarization. There IS the Libertarian Party (and to a much lesser extent a Green Party) but these parties really can't do more than swing a single election for a single candidate by taking more votes from one party then the other. They DO sometimes win some small local elections but they don't elect Senators and they damn sure don't elect Presidents. For example, in 1980 John Anderson ran as an Independent and receive 5.7m popular votes but zero Electoral votes, and Ross Perot actually managed to finish second in a couple of states (again with no Electoral votes). The last third party candidate to win any Electoral votes (if I remember correctly) was Theodore Roosevelt when he ran as a member of the Bull Moose party. Personally, I tend to agree with a lot of the Libertarian ideals around limited government and limited taxation, but disagree on borders and military, so I guess you could count me as a Libertarian-leaning Republican who at one time considered changing my registration to Libertarian. (Who is John Galt?)
Yes, South Carolina Rep Preston Brooks did indeed beat Senator Charles Sumner senseless at his desk in the Senate chamber is where i believe it happened. Oversimplified makes light of this to some extent. However, it was quite terrible for the Senator. he was unable to return to work for 3 yrs and sufferred from his assault for the rest of his life.
If you ever hear Americans jokingly (or I guess seriously) make the reference “ four score and seven years ago…”, it’s a reference to the Gettysburg address. It’s actually the opening line of the Gettysburg address
5:00- the entire world's textile industry was economically dependant upon the region actually (including the north in an ironic twist. Until the cotton gin slavery was dying out because tobacco wasn't profitable enough. But I digress...)
Great Britain was a big market for US cotton. The textile industry made cotton a valuable crop. England almost entered the Civil War on the side of the South to keep its cotton goods coming. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 to make the war about slavery which caused England to avoid taking a side.
When you mentioned protecting lively hood. You have to realize. Many of the Southern slave holders that were in favor of keeping slavery were not just feeding themselves off of slavery . They were getting rich. Cotton was very very big business back then. Americas plantations kept British textile mills fed with the supply of high quality cotton they needed to make yarn, cloth and clothes. Alot of Northerners resented the fact that Southern slave owners were getting richer than most of them and that with the exploding population of the South due to increasing slaves they had more representation in the legislature because slaves counted as partial citizens even though they didn't have a right to vote.
It would have been interesting to have you show this and talk about it and ask your questions in a group discussion with somieone who is a student of the history of the war and environs. As it is, I can recommend a book or two: James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom," and Doris Kearns Goodwin's "Team of Rivals," if you want to get a picture of how it all came about. It was indeed more complex that it is normally said although, this little video you showed isn't bad.
There are recordings of former slaves at the beginning of recording technology and it's amazing to hear them speak. Would love to hear you react to those
Gotta get them views somehow lol, but in all seriousness I think everyone should hear them especially this one woman whose name I can't remember. You talk about a woman having the grace of God, I mean man. Either way it's obviously your choice sir
Lincoln was a great orator, debater, wrestler, and hand-to-hand fighter. A decent soldier as well, in the Blackhawk War. Basically unbeatable, man-to-man, verbally or otherwise. Like Washington, a literal giant of a man (for the time).
There's this quote from Abe Lincoln that, if true, is probably the sickest comeback to anything in history. A lady called him two-faced, because of his politics, where he said he wasn't going to go to war but was totally going to go to war, and legend has it he replied, "Mam, if I had two faces, would I wear this one?"
Slavery in the south went well beyond “peoples ability to feed themselves“. It was about wealth and power. Plantation owners that were wealthy enough to own slaves had no concerns about whether or not they were going to be able to feed them selves.
That’s a real oversimplification. How about the vast majority of Southerners who didn’t own plantations or slaves? Their motivation was not the same as the plantation types. Yet they backed, fought and died for the Confederacy.
@@docbearmb but it was not economic. Slaveholders were at the peak of Southern society, both economically and socially. The inferiority of blacks was assumed almost universally. There had long been fear of slave uprisings. Finally, the position of slaves at the bottom of Southern society gave a sense of status to poor whites.
Well, people looked at the American Civil War from the slavery aspect in today's world, which I genuinely do understand. But there was more of why it was started than slavery...... -- Taxes .... The south didn't want ANY taxes. Whereas, the north wanted taxes to better the states, counties, etc. (As is the American reason to have taxes. NOT as a payday for the politicians) -- The clash of cultures..... Both had, and still have difference of cultures. They wanted one culture throughout the nation, then. (Now, we like the fact there's a different culture in both the north & the south) Obviously, slavery stole the show for the American Civil War. In hindsight, I understand, but history needs to show off the full boiling pot that is called the "American Civil War".
A fact about the civil war is sometime family was divide and someone in family maybe on one side and someone maybe on the other side of war. They may had fight each other in a battle and died. That how blooding the civil war was.
The southern states, at the time, if you separated them from the rest of the US, they would’ve been the 6th largest economy in the world. It was the equivalent of silicon valley. It wasn’t simply a matter of “feeding themselves,” it was incredible wealth being made, which many their descendants still live on today.
I agree that they were very wealthy and all that but I don’t know where you heard their descendants still live on those profits today, that’s simply not true on every measurable margin, most times wealth doesn’t last three generations even with tight inheritance. I don’t want to make assumptions but whoever told you that probably had an agenda that involved the continued demonization of modern day southern folk.
In modern day, if a state wants to secede from the Union, you have quite a lot in your way. You need the majority vote of the state's population, you need to win your cases against the supreme courts, and the state's government has to send it to Congress in the House and Senate to approve and sign off on it. Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, and Vermont have all tried to secede from the Union SINCE the Civil War, most of them occurring in the last 30 years, all for various reasons and all of them being rejected. Most of them being because they didn't approve of the outcome of the presidential election.
A state can leave if it wants but it then looses all the protections and advantages of being a federally recognized state, no penalties if they leave like uncle same won't roll out the tanks on em. A modern secession wouldn't end in open conflict like the Civil war
The first slave owner in America was actually a black man. There were indentured servants before this. In 1621, a black man by the name of Anthony Johnson arrived from Africa to Virginia to be an indentured servant, not a slave. He was captured by Arab traders in his native Angola and sold as a slave. By 1635, he had completed his service contract, and by the late 1640’s he had acquired 250 acres of land. As a land owner, he started using indentured servants himself, acquiring five. In 1654, one of his servants, a black man by the name of John Casor, was due for release from his service. Johnson decided to extend his service, and Casor left to work for Robert Parker, who was a free white man. That year, Johnson sued Parker in Northampton Court, and in 1655, the court ruled that Johnson could hold Cason indefinitely. The court gave sanction for blacks to hold slaves of their own race. This made Anthony Johnson the first American slave owner and John Cason the first slave in the American colonies. It was another 15 years before the colonial assembly granted free whites, blacks, and Indians permission to own black slaves.
I don't have time to watch this entire thing right now, and I don't know if it was brought out, but there were slaveholders in northern states, and many sympathizers, as well. And the Civil War was not fought over slavery. In fact, Lincoln stated that if he could hold the Union together without freeing one slave he would do so. And oddly enough, the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all slaves. Slaves in the states fighting for the north remained slaves.
There's a song called John Brown's Body: John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave But his soul goes marching on He captured Harper's Ferry with his nineteen men so trueHe frightened old Virginia till she trembled through and throughThey hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crewBut his soul goes marching on
"Glory, glory, hallelujah!" It became a very popular tune, and with lyric re-writes it became the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" It was actually one of Winston Churchill's favorite songs and it was played at his funeral.
In the link I posted here, a tour guide of the Kansas Capitol leads his tour group in an impromptu singing of that song. I couldn’t have remembered it.
@@TheCsel The Battle Hymn of the Republic is some powerful stuff. I mean... "In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me As He died to make men holy let us die to make men free His truth is marching on" Man. I'm not even from a Christian background, and yet I can still feel the force of that rhetorical punch all the way across the century-plus.
If you really want to simplify it even further - slavery was already doomed. The North could have just waited it out for it to die on its own as the rest of the world spurned slavery, leaving the South holding the bag. They would have phased it out eventually, but it became too big of an issue of the time. The civil war did not need to happen at all. That’s the tragedy.
How do you know what's weird about the whole thing? Black people still kiss the Democrats asses they was living on the Democrat plantation back in slavery days and they are still living on the Democrat plantation
Very astute observation about the power of money… while this war was definitely about slavery, the spark that started it was Lincoln punishing the South with high tariffs on imported industrial equipment needed by plantations…. Otherwise anti-slavery France and Britain built ships for the South because their economies depended on southern cotton. The Southern States we’re contemplating how to phase out slavery if they did gain independence, because they would need anti-slavery Catholic Mexico as a military and economic ally more than they needed cheap labor. The Czar or Russia sent his largest fleet Of ships to protect California from British/French assisted naval assault, fearing that they would control the gold and banking there, which for some reason I don’t remember would have long term negative consequences for Russia’s economy.
Not going to make a big comment here, but yes this time period is stressful. My grandmother was the first HomeBound teacher in SC who taught black kids. Her best friend growing up was Granny Nance, Minnie Nance's (my nanny) mother. Minnie's son Larry Nance (NBA Legend) taught me to play basketball.... Yeah, in South Carolina we have learned to live together for over 100 years... But now they are trying to drive a wedge between us, however my life long friends (50 yrs old) and I refuse to follow the narrative they want to push on national tv. Fk that
there is the famous great abe lincoln speech that was said to be so great that the press that were there forgot to take notes to report the speech in the press
There may be others with more expertise on the subject, but my recollection is there were arguments bot for and against the legality of secession prior to the civil war, so it was not definitive at the time. however, the Declaration of Independence does IIRC refer to the union as perpetual or something to that effect. After the war, there was a Supreme Court decision called texas vs White that did rule secession to be uncontitutional. But, most historians i have read refer to the idea being really settled by the result of the war itself, namely the defeat of the Confederacy.
I think whats ridiculous is how "oppressed" the south was feeling when it literally had things going their way for them in all branches of government from the very beginning and especially on the slavery issue. They had been appeased for decades but the minute things didnt go their way, they rebelled loo
The south was taxed at a rate much higher than the north. The south produced raw goods. The north had the manufacturing plants making higher profits. They also had the population to control the laws of the land. The sucession was not actually over slavery. Lincoln sought not to end slavery. He sought not to allow any more slave states. Slavery was officially added to the articles of war in year 3 of the Civil War.
fuin note. you know the term uncle tom. it comes from that book and was twisted from a positive term to a negative term because racists didn't like the book. other books twisted the term Uncle Tom, until it became a negative phrase.
Fun fact: A little girl actually did send a letter to Lincoln asking him to grow a beard because it would make him look better and that is why he grew one
one important fact modern brits like to ignore is that for most of the time slavery existed in america, we were still colonies and citizens of the british empire.
Considering Lincoln wrote the Gettysburg Address, largely considered one of the greatest speeches in history, I would say calling him a great orator is a safe bet.
Lincoln was also a realist. He contemplated what occured in Latin America, Europe. Slavery was dead and the end was inevitable. Heavy is the crown...moreso for a man who tries to be good.
Heard that nigga wrote that speech on a napkin on the way to Gettysburg.
Lincoln was also inducted into the national wresting hall of fame. During his stint as a wrestler, he lost only 1 match. I dont know how many he fought in total though.
With a background in law oratory comes natural
The Gettysburg Address is the most famous, and much shorter than was expected. What was in the video just before Kabir's commenting about Lincoln's reputation as an orator were snippets from his first inaugural address, which is famous along with his second inaugural address and the Lincoln-Douglas debates. If you've ever heard the phrase "the better angels of our nature", that was coined in the first inaugural address.
Yeah the canning in the Senate did happen. It's one of the more well known stories leading into the American Civil War.
Caning. Canning is something entirely else.
The book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" lives on in the phrase "Uncle Tom," which is slang for a subservient black man. In the book, Uncle Tom was a house slave (that is, a slave who had domestic duties instead of doing farm labor). House slaves were often resented by other slaves. However, Uncle Tom in the story was actually a heroic figure. He refused to reveal what he knew about some escaped slaves, and ultimately his master, Simon Legree, beat him to death. The book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was the best-selling novel and second-best-selling book of the 19th century. I haven't read it myself, but I've heard that it's not well-written. Regardless, it convinced many people of the evils of slavery.
Senator Preston Brooks really did beat Senator Charles Sumner with a cane while the Senate was in session, and people really did send Brooks replacements for the cane that he broke in the attack.
Slavery was even worse than described in the video. One horrible aspect is what happened to many slave women. I'll try to put this delicately, so as not to cause TH-cam to block this comment because of forbidden words. Let's just say that slavery put women under the control of men who had absolute power over them. The result was that female slaves would, against their wills, have children with their masters. Those children would also become slaves, which is really sick when you think about it.
Note that it was Robert E. Lee who captured John Brown. Remember that name.
The question of whether a state could withdraw from the union was not explicitly covered in the Constitution, which is the document that gives the framework for how the government is supposed to operate. It's like a set of laws overseeing all other laws.
The story of Grace Bedell and Lincoln's beard is sort-of true. She was a child who wrote Lincoln a letter suggesting he'd look good with whiskers. This is supposed to have convinced him to grow a beard.
As for whether Lincoln was a great orator: In my opinion, and the opinions of many others, he was the greatest orator in the country's history. His language was beautiful and stirring. The Gettysburg Address, one of his greatest speeches, is covered later in this series. I believe his Second Inaugural Address is at least as good. One thing that's amazing about this is that Lincoln had little formal schooling. That is, he was largely self-educated.
Oh man, your paragraph that described what happened to female slaves made me sick to my stomach.
I'm sure my other comment will get buried so I'll just say the phrase Uncle Tom is not from the book but the plays which flipped his character from Heroic to the current version we associate with the phrase.
Its just with the minstrel shows of the late 19th and early 20th century mostly erased from history many people only know about the book and make the mistake of associating the book with the phrase.
As to oration skills, Lincoln’s words at Gettysburg followed those of Edward Everett who was considered one of the greatest orators of the times. The speeches were being delivered at the dedication for the Gettysburg military cemetery (for those who had fallen during the battle months earlier.)
Everett’s speech was over 13,000 words long and lasted 2 hours. Lincoln then spoke just 271 magnificent words about humanity, morals and ideals. This brief speech from the President of the US. Its eloquence cannot not be over emphasized. Everett himself said Lincoln had been infinitely more on spot. Kinda like he just tore up his own speech and walked off.
The book is very well written that’s why it was so popular why don’t you read it instead of judging it without reading it?
@@kabirconsiders just listen man, even though its not his voice it's one of the simplest greatest speeches in human history
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Calling what the slaver owners were doing as protecting their livelihoods is giving them way to much credit, as we saw after the civil war you can still make a lot of money by paying people to pick cotton, and even without slaves they'd still have been rich. What they were doing was protecting the highest profit margin they could get and not caring who they tread on in the process.
so pretty much most businesses in America today
Actually economists and historians largely agree that slavery held economic development of the south back. When workers are motivated by fear they do the minimum amount of work. Employees are more self-motivated and do more than just what hte overseer demands while they're watching. Capitalism 1, Mercantalism 0.
@@davidwiley8752 You're going off the modern fear of being fired versus the fear of torture and possibly death. Considering all the things slaves were tasked with building over the millennia, I think their work ethic is just fine.
I totally agree.
Think everyone is ignoring the racial ideology, not just economics that supported slavery, just look at what happened to the free slaves after there was no more economic motivator slavery.
Jim Crow, massacre and disenfranchisement
John Browns body was a song popular up north after he was killed, the Union Army would March into battle singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic which was sung to the cadence of John Browns body...glory, glory, glory, Hallelujah.
Yes, most of Lincoln's speeches were beautifully written. He and his wife both suffered from depression. The fact that he persevered in spite of those difficulties and accomplished all he did really makes him stand out among Presidents
Considering that Lincoln gave the "Gettysburg Address," one of the most famous speeches ever in the history of the U.S. that he came up with on the spot and scribbled on a random piece of paper he had on him, a speech that many American school kids learn to quote for class even to this day, I'd say - yes - he was definitely a great orator.
I cant remember his nsme but someone that spoke for 2 hours before him said Lincoln said more, delivered it better and touched everyone in a few minutes than he did in his whole speech
Can’t wait to see your part 2. I am very close to Gettysburg where the war was turned. The history of that town is amazing but what’s not in the American history books is shameful. The residents of Gettysburg were suffering even after the war.
I am so jealous. If I lived close to Gettysburg I would go there and walk all the time. I am from North Carolina and I have been to Gettysburg 4 times. Beautiful town.
@@stonewall01 We love going there. Next time you’re there try Garryowen Irish Pub for dinner. That’s our favorite restaurant. Take a candlelight ghost tour. It’s more history than spooky.
Same!! I live right in between Gettysburg and Antietam. My favorite places ever. I completely agree with you on everything they miss in history books though. It’s a shame.
@@danheisey9052 I don't know when I will be going back but first chance I get I will take it. I definitely will try that out. Thanks for the suggestion!
I live in Carlisle, I go to Gettysburg frequently and yes the Irish pub is fantastic!
When Lincoln was introduced to Harriet Beacher Stowe, he said, "So you are the little lady who started this big war."
It should be known the reason no one intervened during the caning of Sumner was because two of Brook's friends held the congress members who were present at gun point. Southern hospitality.
Oversimplified: "Congressmen were going armed on the floor of the Senate, which is *never* a good sign..."
Me: ::spends all spring observing disputes over metal detectors at the entrance to the House of Representatives, gnaws nervously on fingernails:
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes of Ted Kennedy's, that Washington DC combines Northern hospitality with Southern efficiency.
(Kabir, the European version of this joke is that early internet meme about how Heaven is a place run by the Swiss, where the cops are English, the lovers are French, the chefs are Italian, the mechanics are German etc. etc. and meanwhile Hell is a place organized by the Italians, where the cops are German, the lovers are Swiss, the chefs are English, the mechanics are French... Basically if there were ever two pairs of words that never belonged together when referring to the United States, "Northern hospitality" and "Southern efficiency" are very much them!)
Something my history teacher always stressed the importance of knowing whenever we talked about the Civil War; It wasn't started *over* slavery, but it was started *because* of slavery. I don't think he explains it very well, making everyone look like they didn't actually care about the situation when a lot to most did, but there were many, many other issues between the North and South that caused the civil war, like the issue of tariffs that unfairly favored the North over the South to name one.
Sumner was actually beaten almost to death. He got traumatic brain injury out of it. Afterwards, he basically suffered from chronic pains and PTSD for the rest of his life. Brooks was tried for it but he was found not guilty. He resigned for that term, but reelected for the next term. He didn't get to serve a new term though, because he died of a disease that no one probably has anymore.
Also iirc, the South was also trying to minimize industrialisation because if not, people would question the need for slavery.
Many of the founders kicked the issue down the road, not just to avoid the USA collapsing before it started, but because most people really thought slavery was on the way out. After the War of 1812 Britain started enforcing a ban on the slave trade from Africa and the USA signed a treaty to agree not to import any more slaves. Meanwhile plantations and farms focused on tobacco just weren't as profitable as they once were. It was thought keeping slaves wouldnt be worth the effort in a couple decades, and many Founders freed their slaves on their death and many were in support of compensating slave owners to free their slaves. However this all changed when the cotton gin was invented. Suddenly cotton was hugely profitable. And the textile factories in the Northern States and in Europe were always demanding more cotton! So the Southern landowners of large plantations decided just keeping the slaves was the way to go. And with importing slaves being illegal, they started breeding them, and the profitability of the slave trade went way up again.
Is cereal a soup? Maybe. Are hot dogs sandwiches? Perhaps. But tomatoes are a fruit which means ketchup is definitely a jam.
"In your hands and not in mine"
Terrific line
Thank you, Kabir, for your curiosity, smart questions, willingness to see different viewpoints and your virtual friendship from across the ocean. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for the kind words Jennifer :)
12:37 Mark! I haven't read the book by author Arthur Hailey nor seen the remake of the original "ABC" television mini-series "Roots" but I saw the original version. For some of us it was required school homework! But seeing it will fill in the blanks for you. Because of the nature of it, the "FCC" gave the network permission to use certain language and show naked slaves, in order for the dramatic points to be clearly made and not ignored! So it was one of the first shows to have warnings about the content as did "The Holocaust" over on "NBC". 😮
At 15:57 this is very much how U.S politics is playing out right now
I’ve long been skeptical of the “reaction” type video but I have to say I genuinely enjoy yours. Keep up the good work
Thanks so much for the kind words mate :)
Hi Kabir, I'm so happy to have found your site... I've become a bit addicted, as I'm learn as much about my country as yours and I'm almost 60. Now watching the Worst Presidents segment and needed to stop it to give input about George Bush and No Child Left Behind. It changed schools from learning at the teacher and students needs to learning to pass tests. If you have a child that doesn't learn in that narrow box... they are more likely to become discouraged, hate learning and even drop out more readily. My last 2 daughters were in middle school during this change and the frustration I watched them change from young people who were learning vs trying to memorize and meet standards set by the government under the guise of no child left behind. It reminded me of what had been happening in the healthcare field since Regan era. As an aide then nurse, I endured as everything become about documentation rather than doing my profession, takinging good and safe care of my patients. I eventually worked for the school system as a nurse and witnessed these poor teachers trying so hard to meet all needs...just as I had working in a hospital. I eventually became ill from 3 autoimmune diseases from the stress. I tried many types of nursing until losing my ability to work in 2011 and having heart attack in 2016.And the safety net system has been completely torn apart so the rich don't have to pay taxes. I lost everything, including my home and am about to have my second medical bankruptcy. The stress in this country is toxic... I have the feeling it's about eventually turning all public institutions/ options (like medicare) over to the private sector. It's happening in every part of the American Public works...Civil Servant work was something to be proud of doing, like a mailman or road worker, with good benefits, vacation, healthcare and pension. Union jobs were too. Now they have brainwashed people into thinking only hard work with no time off is the way to go... that only certain jobs get good healthcare and most people have to work more than 1 part time jobs without benefits to make ends meet. That Civil Servants and Union jobs are just lazy and taking your money. I just watched your Civil War selection and see we are there once again... funnily enough the party names are reversed but what the underlying causes are continue to be the same. Capitalism/money vs Empathy and caring for our families and each other. Sorry about this supposed little response took on a life of it's own but these videos are bringing out my anger of America and what we have become. America doesn't care about its citizens or the planet... as long as you are feeding the corporate machine. I'm curious if life there is as ideal as I watch on shows like Doc Martin. I do love the area I live. I will look for a video of the Olympic Peninsula so you can see the beauty we do have to offer in Washington
.. in fact the entire Pacific Northwest has something for everybody. From coast to rainforest to mountains to deserts... all within a few hundred miles. Definitely somewhere for you to target on a trip here... and of course Seattle and Portland for urban lifestyles. And if you get homesick.... I live across the Straights of Juan de Fuca and Victoria, BC, Canada... a place I love to go and they brag is more British than England. Thank you for what you do. Pam
Lmao the parties are not reversed. The Democrats were founded by slave owners, Democrats tried to split the country in half and drove us into civil war, then when we took away their slaves the democrats created the kkk, then came Jim Crowe and segregation. Once that was abolished they began slithering into the urban centers where they have led a reign of terror for over 40 years. Joe Biden authored the crime bill that incarcerated thousands of Americans on drug charges, specifically aimed at abusing minorities, his mentor was a Democrat senator that used to be a member of the kkk and he gave a eulogy at his funeral alongside Hillary Clinton. Statics prove the south has become less racist the more red it's become and it's once again the democrats pushing for segregation. In 2020 the democrats tried to repeal California's civil rights laws. I voted no on the proposition, but you'll find shit like that only on democrat ballots. Full on clown show
The US has come so far.
We still have a long way to go.
I always enjoy your reactions!
Thanks Diane :) And for sure the US has come a long way since then
2:45 Mark! Kavir, greetings! 🖖 Yes, it is! Thank you very much for noticing the "KFC" reference! So many others failed! They didn't even notice the "Colonel Sanders" look-alike! I hope you do! 😊
I know it's "Oversimplified", but one aspect of the pre-Civil War debates was that the Industrial Revolution was in the process of making slavery redundant.
The question for Southerners was what to do with 4 million ex-slaves roaming the countryside, with no education, no capital, no property and a variety of legitimate axes to grind.
One "solution" was to extend slavery westwards, with slaveowners selling their soon to be excess-to-needs slaves to settlers headed west, and putting the PHYSICAL barrier of the Mississippi River between the bulk of ex-slaves and the Southern heartland. All of these disputes about states entering as free/slave was seen as a matter of self-defense among the Southern aristocracy. They were a small minority in Southern states, but they had the money and the power, you know, and drove the entire thing.
No. The south didn't industrialize because there economy was based on slavery. It was not on the verge of ending but the center piece to there economy. It's why after the civil war sharecropping became big as the South basically continued with the same economy. It will not be to much later in US history that the south begins to modernize.
I disagree. Steam engines, telegraphs, mechanical planters and reapers, chemical fertilizers, railroads, all were not unknown in the South. Within a generation or two, they would have transformed the economic model -- had the war not intervened -- just as computers, automation, artificial intelligence and access to overseas labor affect our economies today.
The reasons why the South did not industrialize after the war were Reconstruction, bankruptcy, and devastation of both landscape and population. Recovery from that was also hampered by the First World War and the Great Depression. History does not occur in a vacuum: we shouldn't ignore events and trends that were already in motion or about to occur to support a narrative that otherwise makes no sense -- i.e. why would Southerners NOT partake and make use of new technology that would have made their lives easier and their pockets fuller, and relieved them of the problem of what to do with four million ex-slaves in their midst just to keep an inefficient sharecropping arrangement "for old time's sake"?
The point being: they couldn't take advantage of it because they lost the war and experienced occupation, reparations (to the Federal Government to pay war costs), and a destroyed economic base that needed to be righted, first. This does not happen immediately; it will take decades,.
Industrialization (on a large scale) of the South would await FDR and the New Deal with it's alphabet soup organizations, particularly the ones that would bring ELECTRICITY (and nuclear weapons assembly) to the South on a grand scale. The Second World War put southern industry on par with that of the north, particularly in shipbuilding and aircraft production as industry everywhere expanded...especially all those areas with the new supplies of electricity.
Recovery from 1865 would not come until 1945.
@@matthewnoto9380 I think the problem with your statement is that it IS sort of reaching. You are saying “why wouldn’t they have done these things” when really there is not much contextual argument to back that up. They wanted to keep the slave population. PERIOD. Their agricultural based lifestyle made them EXTREMELY rich and a big part of that was having a massive population that did not have to be paid to perform the labor. There was no advancement in industry because they didn’t see the need for it because they were making SO much money at the time…at least the wealthy land owners that is.
So saying they were scared of a bunch of free slaves killing them cause there was no other place for them seems like a MASSIVE reach and you assuming a conclusion that is beyond what the southerners that seceded said themselves. They documented their reasons for succeeding and fighting to make more slave territory and it did not say because they fear roving packs of black people would murder them out of revenge (as an aside, that excuse sounds really racist when you think about it but I mean…they owned slaves so…it fits the part). If you have actual text that supports this hypothesis/theory of yours, I would like to read it. Please send a link or something. Hopefully, it’s based in source material from that time and has citations. Thanks.
@@fizzychizzy I think the problem with your statement is that it ignores historical fact.
Freed slaves were already being shipped back to Africa long before the Civil War even started (It was called "Back-to-Africa" and the main reason why it failed was because few slaves actually wanted to go to Africa, I would think they had good reasons not to). And yes, many of them from the South.
You ever hear of the country of Liberia? Colony of Former American slaves.
You know of Sierra-Leone? Colony of former American slaves.
Did you know that wasn't the only program for deporting ex-slaves between roughly 1820 and 1861, and that some started even earlier?
Did you know of Confederate plans to conquer parts of South America to export slaves to plantations there?
Lincoln, himself, had put forward plans to ship slaves to Mexico in order to preserve the Union.
That's all historical fact. You can look it all up. No hypothesis/theory here.
You obviously have Google: do your own research. Don't be lazy. Learn for yourself.
Now, what's funny here is that you make an economic argument -- the Confederacy wanted to keep their slaves because it made them rich -- without looking at the other side of the coin -- slaves were an expense.
Sure, you didn't have to pay them wages, but you still did have to feed and house them, care for them when they got sick so as to not infect all the other slaves, and then you had to pay some form of security to keep them from running away, or pay bounty hunters to chase down runaway slaves. Ever since capitalism was invented the rules have been better, cheaper, faster, and with greater quality, and the answer has always been -- automate it, wherever possible, because people are unpredictable and unreliable.
That's often how capitalism works and how rational people behave. If you have the mechanical means to do labor that was once done by muscle power, you take advantage of it, for the simple reason that machines do not get sick, they don't need to be fed, they don't need to be guarded, they work 24/7/365, they don't make mistakes, they never complain, and they won't murder you in your sleep or revolt.
When you're bankrupt because you've lost a war you had no chance of winning to begin with, you've lost your property, the government has taken your capital, and there is a concerted and deliberate effort undertaken to ensure that you do not recover from the disaster (as a matter of government policy, no less!), then all those fancy new machines and efficient new methods are out of your reach.
And insinuating I'm a racist?
Talk about a MASSIVE reach.
This is a TH-cam response thread. If you want long passages of someone else's words with footnotes, corroborations and attributions, pick up a book or ask Alexa and pray her algorithm isn't biased to produce only Google-approved results. That's how people "study" things nowadays, anyway, and then we wonder why ignorance is so prevalent (I am not implying you are ignorant, I'm generalizing).
@@matthewnoto9380 u are right u can't assume that history proceeds as the way it does in our timeline. But u r wrong about the state of slavery at the time. The south was not going to end slavery anytime soon as it was the lifeblood of the economy. The south would continue as an agricultural economy that would spend be on the verge of war every decade. Being how the world view the institution at the time along with the general conservative political leaning of the south. I believe it is fair to say that the industrial revolution doesn't take over and the South looks more like Venezuela today.
Yes, Lincoln was a great orator. He has given some of the greatest speeches in American History such as the Gettysburg Address, his Second Inaugural Address, or the letter he wrote to Mrs. Bixby of Boston. I’d definitely recommend reading them.
The interesting thing is that at the time the Gettysburg address was considered a small thing and of no particular importance. It was just a 3 minute summation after an hour long speech that was far more typical at the time. It got reprinted in several papers because it's brevity allowed it to be. It was only with the passage of time that it was recognized as the rhetorical bombshell it really was.
One thing that I never see talked about is the British royal family's responsibility for slavery. They are the ones who owned the colonies and brought the slaves in. In the revolutionary war the south was loyal to the British because they were the ones buying the cotton and tobacco. Everything was being shipped back over. How much of the royal family's money is tied to slavery?
1) At 4:46, Tom Hanks is on the assembly line!
2) "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was the second-best selling book (after the Bible) in the U.S. for all of the nineteenth century. It was also a huge best-seller in the UK. During the Civil War the book's author Harriet Beecher Stowe visited President Lincoln. According to her daughter, when Lincoln met Stowe he said to her "so you are the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war."
3) Despite the inhumanity of slavery, there were slave marriages, if the slave owner approved. These marriages were legally meaningless but culturally important. Some slave marriages used the phrase "till death or distance do us part" in the vows.
4) You are absolutely correct that the difficulty in ending slavery was money. It's difficult to get precise numbers, but adjusted for inflation the 4 million slaves might have been worth more than $200 billion in today's money. But at 13:00 in your video, Oversimplified was referring to white people in the North who owned small farms. They could not compete economically with the huge southern plantations (farms) operated using free labor. But I'm not sure how much of a problem this was, because the southern plantations mostly grew crops not grown in the North--cotton, tobacco, sugar, and rice.
5) The only relevant document as to whether secession is legal is the Constitution, and it says nothing. There is a minority school of thought which believes that since the states were independent or "sovereign" before voluntarily joining the Union, they had the right to leave. But there are 2 problems with this idea: one, the U.S. Supreme Court has never issued a ruling on the legality of secession; and two, if secession is legal, only the states of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Texas had been independent. The other 6 states which seceded had been Federal Territories prior to being states and thus had never been sovereign.
6) Lincoln was one of the greatest writers in the history of the English language. What made him even more remarkable was that he had one year of formal schooling. He taught himself everything, including the law, while living among poor, illiterate people. Google his 2 great speeches: the Gettysburg Address and his second Inaugural Address. They are short speeches and his prose is good enough to be considered poetry.
Tom Hanks is related to Lincoln's mother, whose maiden name was Hanks.
@@corvus1374 Wow! As well as George Clooney and Camille Cosby, according to Wikipedia.
Lincoln and the Republican Party grew partly out of the "Free Soil" movement of the mid-19th Century. This was a form of frontier populism that held that every person should have the right to benefit or profit from the labor they performed. So, the small landholders and workers of the free states in the West (now the Midwest) saw slave labor as unnatural, and they feared that it would undercut the small farms, mines and saw mills, etc. they relied on to gain an economic toe-hold in new territories.
@@johnalden5821 I remember the term "free soil" from my U.S. history class 35 years ago, but I had forgotten there was a short-lived (1848-1856) party by that name which was a precursor to the Republican Party. Here's a quote from the Wikipedia page for the Free Soil Party:
The 1848 Free Soil platform openly denounced the institution of slavery, demanding that the federal government "relieve itself of all responsibility for the existence and continuance of slavery" by abolishing slavery in all federal districts and territories. The platform declared: "[W]e inscribe on our banner, 'Free Soil, Free Speech, Free Labor, and Free Men,' and under it we will fight on, and fight forever, until a triumphant victory shall reward our exertions." Unlike the Liberty Party, the 1848 Free Soil Party platform did not address fugitive slaves or racial discrimination, nor did it call for the abolition of slavery in the states. The party nonetheless earned the support of many former Liberty Party leaders by calling for abolition wherever possible, the chief goal of the Liberty Party. The Free Soil platform also called for lower tariffs, reduced postal rates, and improvements to harbors. The 1852 party platform more overtly denounced slavery, and also called for the diplomatic recognition of Haiti. Many Free Soilers also supported the temperance movement.
@@JPMadden Exactly. Free Soilers were not radical abolitionists in most cases, but they did detest slavery and generally opposed its extension westwards. You could say that their position was not primarily because they identified with the suffering of the slaves as much as their belief that the "Slave Power" in the South was destroying democracy and free labor rights. The context helps explain the views of many people in the northern states west of the Appalachians -- importantly including Abraham Lincoln, who saw the Free Soil philosophy as his natural constituency. BTW/the emphasis in the platform on infrastructure improvements and lower prices reflects some of the views of northern Whigs, going back to Henry Clay's time.
Lincoln was a great orator. I've heard that he was also a damned funny one, & that if he hadn't gone into the law & politics he would've made a hell of a comedian. Or, what passed for one back then - a humourist, along the lines of Mark Twain.
All accounts say that Lincoln had a wealth of stories he picked up from the backwoods area where he grew up. He would use these to "break the ice" in mixed gatherings and to warm people up in negotiations. The down side is that people often took this to mean Lincoln was an uneducated rube (when he was, in fact, the greatest political strategist of the time). But Lincoln could also use the stories slyly to cut people down to size, and his targets would often not realize it until the people around them were laughing at them. He was a master of political theater.
In actuality Lincoln was one of the worlds great speech writers. But as an orator he was extremely wanting. It seems his high pitched voice and soft spoken delivery made what he said difficult to understand. People began to realize his greatness after reading his speeches, but were completely underwhelmed by his oration.
Note that the Republican party from its inception was the anti-slavery party. That changed with the 1964 Civil Rights Act enacted by a southern Democratic president, Lyndon Johnson. Almost overnight the so call Dixie-crats changed parties and became Republicans.
The reason slavery wasn't addressed in the Constitution was A) Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were slave owners and B) When the Declaration of Independence was written the tacit understanding was that it and the forthcoming representative government was for the exclusive club of middle to upper class white men.
No, there is nothing in the constitution to prevent secession. There is also nothing in the constitution from preventing a presidential order to send in troops to prevent or punish states from secession. There is nothing in the constitution from seizing all industry, monies, tariffs from these states and blockading international trade, nor is there any law preventing the Federal government from halting all Federal funding to these states. Currently most of the old Confederate states are the poorest states in the country, needing 15 to 30 billion dollars more from the government than they give to the Federal pot to survive and/or balance their budgets. Secession now would quickly turn those states into third world countries with the military remaining on the side of the remaining Union.
Bro wtf. I think you’re gonna end up knowing more about America than most Americans with all these random reactions you’re doing and I’m fully here for it
Yeah over the course of this running this channel I’ve probably learnt more than I did in school 😂
@@kabirconsiders slavery is a sin on our nation but our nation fought its bloodiest war and almost tore itself apart to eradicate it. Almost 500,000 union soldiers, mostly white died to end slavery. When people here talk about it being racist, we paid such a high price to free all people and it seems like so many forget that.
Watch the series Roots also a movie about a family in Africa becoming slaves and follows generations.
Yes, Lincoln is remembered for his speeches, among other things, especially his address at the dedication of the national military cemetery at Gettysburg.
while secession didn't have any rules on it set by the founding fathers. what's important to note is that Only the southerners saw it as succession the northerners saw it as an illegal rebellion happening in their country. the war would go on to solve the question of which one is it.
Lincoln was such an orator that it is often joked that he was born making a speech. Hence the baby joke in beginning of video.
Oversimplified really does a good job of putting out some of the bare bones in a comedic way.
But if you want a more in depth look, I highly recommend Arun Shei's channel on the subject with his series 'checkmate lincolnites!'
It's done in the style of a comedic debate between a union and confederate soldier arguing points from modern lost causers.
One video I’d recommend is on marquis de Lafayette who was a hero of the American revolution even tho he was French not American, become one of Washington’s most trusted generals
3:09 Mark! Oh! That's "Batman" behind the judge! 😮😅
I have ancestors who were on both sides of the conflict. Some owned slaves, some fought on the Confederate side, and I also had some who worked in the Underground Railroad.
About debating from Wikipedia
"The Lincoln-Douglas debates (also known as The Great Debates of 1858) were a series of seven debates between Abraham Lincoln, the Republican Party candidate for the United States Senate from Illinois, and incumbent Senator Stephen Douglas, the Democratic Party candidate. Until the 17th Constitutional Amendment of 1913, senators were elected by their respective state legislatures, so Lincoln and Douglas were trying to win control of the Illinois General Assembly for their respective parties".
In 1976 Alex Haley wrote a book called Roots. He researched his family tree/bloodline all the way back to slavery. It was a made for TV mini series that came out in Jan '77'. Everyone watched it.
It was also a complete fabrication. Look up the quote "I wanted to give my people a myth to live by"
There wasn't anything written in the Constitution specifically at the time. I have a feeling they changed that after the Civil War, but I couldn't say for certain. I'm guessing that the Founding Fathers didn't really envision something like the Civil War happening. That's the only explanation I can think of for them not even mentioning secession in the document.
There wasn't anything in the Constitution that specifically allowed or disallowed slavery. It wasn't mentioned in the Constitution but it was justified as property rights (the slaves were property). At the end of the Civil War the 13th Amendment was ratified which explicitly banned slavery.
As to secession, the Constitution doesn't say. For a state to join the Union is well documented but nothing mentions how to leave the Union. There has been talk of secession recently with all the polarization in today's politics. If a state were to leave the Union it would depend on how the country reacts I suppose.
Fun fact and it was put into the video, the little girl who told Lincoln he was ugly and needed to grow a beard was real. Grace Bedell(her name was put under the little girl), actually sent Lincoln a letter along those lines.
Aw man. Please go down this rabbit hole. Maybe you already have and I need to catch up. But the over simplified videos are AMAZING. I'm blown away with how much information they can pack into such a small amount of time. I'm gonna stroll through your content to find it but, if you haven't already PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do "the history of the entire world, I guess".
I did the history of the entire world video a few weeks back, it was incredible!
Lincoln may be THE greatest public speaker as a president we ever had. Check out The Gettysburg Address.
In 1949 interview an old man and ex-slave was asked what he'd do if they brought back slavery he said "I'd take a gun and just end it all right away; because you're nothing but a dog, you're not a thing but a dog but a dog..." I can't put it better than that.
One important thing to remember is that even though the North was definitely on the side of angels in that war, the reason more and more of them had become in favor of abolition is due to way of life differences.
In an agrarian area (like the south) profits are figured by sell price minus price to make the product including the cost of labor.
In an industrial community profit is measured by cost to purchase X product - cost of labor to make something with product + # of potential buyers. Slavery in that system makes no sense because although it reduces cost of production, each person in the system not earning money will never buy your product and the North had so many immigrants the factory owners etc. had to pay its workers a smaller amount anyway, but they all needed lanterns and oil, and shirts, and trousers etc.
Lincoln was great at speeches. Read the Gettysburg address.
Just to give a little more context:
Slavery is seen as America's "Original Sin", but it was brought here by Europeans. The Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, French and British, mainly, who after killing off the native labor and running out of prisoners, debtors and "enemies of the state" to exile to The New World, needed labor for a variety of economic reasons. The nature of slavery varied between regions in the British Colonies (both those founded by Britain and those taken as prizes of war).
In New England, there wasn't much slavery because those colonies were "chartered" as a means of getting rid of undesirables. The "Pilgrims" who landed at Plymouth Rock were religious dissenters who had already fled England for the Netherlands because their religious beliefs made them enemies of the Crown. The Stewart Kings (I think I was Charles I) "allowed" them to build colonies in the belief that if the sea voyage didn't kill them, the natives and disease would. The nature of the landscape made New England not very suitable for the kinds of cash crops that were big sellers in European markets.
The Mid-Atlantic region (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware) were initially settled by the Dutch. New York was then known as New Amsterdam, and the city still bears it's Dutch heritage (in place names like "Brooklyn", "The Bronx", and my hometown, "Staten Island"). Delaware began as a small Swedish colony. There wasn't much slavery here, either. By the way, this is the origin of the word "Yankee" -- it referred to English sailors and merchants from New England trading in New Amsterdam. They would buy up all the cheese in New Amsterdam because it would keep on long sea voyages. The Dutch called the English "John Cheese", which is pronounced "Yawn-Keys" in Dutch.
It is the South (From Virginia south) where the problem begins in earnest. These were founded as "Crown Colonies", business ventures under Royal Charter, and they were established to satisfy the demand for expensive crops in Europe, such as tobacco, indigo, and sugar. These Crown Colonies were initially funded by the Crown and the English nobility and were established solely for profit. Labor, however, was something they didn't wish to pay for (cuts into profits). The first "slaves" in the South were "indentured servants", mainly Scots-Irish and Welsh who were either criminals, debtors, or considered otherwise undesirable. The supply of these quickly ran out, and so English merchants and planters of the time availed themselves of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade between Africa and the New World, which was controlled by the Spanish and Portuguese. The Portuguese had been slave-trading along the West African coast for 100 years by this time, to find labor for their colonies in Brazil.
ALL of the Europeans desperately needed slave labor for their plantations in the Caribbean (where the main exports were sugar, coffee, tobacco, and rum).
Europeans established a way of life here, and then hypocritically insist they're either not at fault or morally superior to Americans. We're the descendants of Europeans, you morons! If we learned bad lessons, we learned them from Europeans!
I'm not excusing America's complicity or history,. just presenting an argument -- based upon historical fact -- that is NEVER mentioned in these discussions.
The reason Canada isn't remembered as being slave-having, native murderers like their southern neighbor is because they were still Great Britain when they did it. If they'd gained independence in the same year as the US rather than 100 years later, they'd have an almost identical history.
Although, on that note, they also completely outlawed slavery 30 years before the US fought over it *because* they were still Great Britain. The population of Canada was largely fine with outlawing slavery because a far lower percentage of the country's economy was centered around farming as compared to 'Murica.
I'm also not condoning slavery. It's obviously cruel and evil but it's also, sadly, something nearly every region of the world is guilty of at some point in their history. The US just gets a lot of attention over their part in it because they (1.) were the same country they are today when it happened and (2.) are still dealing with the long term repercussions of having so much slavery rather late into history compared to other European colonies.
I would disagree with 1 very strongly.
The populations of the original 13 colonies were radically transformed by successive waves of immigration. It is hardly the monolithic extension of British institutions it once was, or is commonly thought to be. And even in the days when slavery was in full swing, half the country was against it and in the cities of the North the freedman was common.
One of those freedmen , Crispus Attucks, was among the victims of the Boston Massacre. Thousand of others fought with Washington.
Canada was too cold to grow cotton, Christina, the frontier even wilder and more sparsely-populated than the 13 Colonies, and that's why there were few slaves there. Not because of any innate virtue among "Canadians" of the time.
As for the Canadians not slaughtering the natives, that's a laugh.
@@matthewnoto9380 I did mention both.
I don’t have time to read your essay. Slavery has been around since the beginning of civilization and the Europeans were the first to outlaw it.
@@kyselykovac2477 Five paragraphs is hardly "an essay", but I guess by today's low educational standards, it might as well be a novel.
As for being the first to outlaw it, take a look at what happened in Europe between 1930 and 1950, and see if your moral victory lap is still warranted.
I really enjoyed your reaction. From the beginning you have really good conclusions and comments. Great job.
Thanks mate :)
@@kabirconsiders No problem. I watched many reactions to this video, only you pointed out how much the economy, that is, money, affects interpersonal relations. Which we see now. People, fearing for their own existence, begin to consider everyone who could endanger them as enemies. And where people feel threatened, violence is the next step. I hope you have more reactions.
Dude was like a legendary wrestler too 🤣
17:00 The Declaration of Independence is not a controlling document. In essence, it was an open letter sent to the King.
Most people, including me, forget that the United States of American as formed buy the Constitution is the SECOND United States. The FIRST United States was formed under the Articles of Confederation (1781) and the SECOND United States was formed under the Constitution (1789). From what I understand (and my knowledge is vague and fragmentary) the "President" in terms of the Confederation was more like a leader of Parliament then the head of a separate triad of government as with have with the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches we have todo in the US.
The Caning story was wild but not as crazy as the 3rd Vice President of the U.S holding a grudge after he lost the presidential election and later an election for Governor of NY and killing a political rival in a duel as a result.
The Declaration would go against slavery... our Constitution addresses slavery in a way that is not positive: its listed them as 3/5 a person in counting for representation, mentions that escaped enslaved people were not free, the taxation of slavery, and that slavery could be addressed after 1808 and was constitutionally legal until then
Susan B Anthony's brother was with Brown at Pottawatomie Creek and Brown detailed his Harper's Ferry plan to Douglas her sister and Frederick Douglas at her home (now a museum) in Rochester, they all told him not to do it
Huge piece of information that is left out or ignored. While the South did rely on slavery, it was for ECONOMIC reasons more than racial or moral grounds. After all, at this point in history, the Southern USA was producing roughly 70% of GLOBAL supplies of Tobacco, Corn, Cotton and Grain. And a huge chunk of that production was RESTRICTED to be shipped out to the other countries THROUGH the Northern States and their ports, or through the Northern "shipyards". So, even if you were able to ship cotton from Alabama to the UK, you were likely to be shipping it off to NY first, or overseas BY a "Northern Owned Shipping company". So yeah, the North became more "industrial", but it also relied HEAVILY upon Southern resources.
As such, without a reliable means of KEEPING UP WITH PRODUCTION... The South to "lose slavery over a short period" would have resulted in massive economic collapse across vast parts of the South in general. Also, the VAST majority of plans to 'end slavery" at that time had NO METHOD of supporting all of these suddenly free slaves. Meaning that while facing a massive "economic collapse", the South would be facing a massive "state support programs" to help freed slaves. Or at MINIMUM an extremely expensive program of shipping them back to Africa or simply OUT of the Southern states.
So, yeah, slavery ITSELF was an important ECONOMIC concern for the South. But the "sudden end of slavery" was ALSO a huge ECONOMIC concern for the South as well. With that in mind, the South wanted to keep slavery UNTIL a better method of production was available, and TECHNOLOGICALLY that wasn't possible at the time. Many experts over the years have pointed out that with a more "modern system" of production put into place, that slavery would have ended in the South around 1900 or so. Basically within 50 yrs or so of the Civil War, the "slave issue" would have been ended for ALL the USA, with the Southern states most likely paying to ship "freed slaves" OUT of Southern states to the Mid-West or East-coast.
Watch a video about the Gettysburg Address and you’ll discover what a genius orator Lincoln was.
Watch the movie "Lincoln" with Daniel Day-Lewis. It was about how he was able to get the House of Representatives to vote for the 13th amendment. Great movie.
you are continually very astute and happy to learn
Amazing orator. There is even a form of competitive debate style named for the Lincoln - Douglas debates in the 1850s.
Can't wait for the next upload
One of the problems with the US political system is how two parties are locked into power. (What follows is what I've heard and believe to be true but is not authoritative beyond a few web searches...) It used to be that individual parties printed their own ballots with their candidates selected. People could select those ballots and drop them in the box. If they wanted to vote for some candidates from one party and some from another the voter would cut the ballots into sections containing the candidate they wanted (this was called "splitting the ticket", a term which survives to today for people who don't vote a "straight ticket", meaning All Republican/Democrat/Libertarian) and paste those sections together. In the 1880s the Australian Ballot System where the government prints the ballot and parties had to meet the government criteria to be on the ballot. This new system locked in place the two predominate parties of the time, the Democrats and the Republicans. No longer could you have a brand new party form and have their first Presidential candidate win occur (like with what happened with the Republicans and Abraham Lincoln).
Having only two major parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, you eventually end up with extreme polarization. We would be better off with three or four equal parties to avoid polarization. There IS the Libertarian Party (and to a much lesser extent a Green Party) but these parties really can't do more than swing a single election for a single candidate by taking more votes from one party then the other. They DO sometimes win some small local elections but they don't elect Senators and they damn sure don't elect Presidents. For example, in 1980 John Anderson ran as an Independent and receive 5.7m popular votes but zero Electoral votes, and Ross Perot actually managed to finish second in a couple of states (again with no Electoral votes). The last third party candidate to win any Electoral votes (if I remember correctly) was Theodore Roosevelt when he ran as a member of the Bull Moose party.
Personally, I tend to agree with a lot of the Libertarian ideals around limited government and limited taxation, but disagree on borders and military, so I guess you could count me as a Libertarian-leaning Republican who at one time considered changing my registration to Libertarian. (Who is John Galt?)
Yes, South Carolina Rep Preston Brooks did indeed beat Senator Charles Sumner senseless at his desk in the Senate chamber is where i believe it happened. Oversimplified makes light of this to some extent. However, it was quite terrible for the Senator. he was unable to return to work for 3 yrs and sufferred from his assault for the rest of his life.
He had what we would call PTSD, in addition to his physical injuries.
If you ever hear Americans jokingly (or I guess seriously) make the reference “ four score and seven years ago…”, it’s a reference to the Gettysburg address. It’s actually the opening line of the Gettysburg address
5:00- the entire world's textile industry was economically dependant upon the region actually (including the north in an ironic twist. Until the cotton gin slavery was dying out because tobacco wasn't profitable enough. But I digress...)
Yeah, about 1/3 of the entire world was fueled on American cotton
Great Britain was a big market for US cotton. The textile industry made cotton a valuable crop. England almost entered the Civil War on the side of the South to keep its cotton goods coming. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 to make the war about slavery which caused England to avoid taking a side.
When Lincoln said “ A house divided against its self cannot stand” he was quoting from the Bible. Matthew 12:25
When you mentioned protecting lively hood. You have to realize. Many of the Southern slave holders that were in favor of keeping slavery were not just feeding themselves off of slavery . They were getting rich. Cotton was very very big business back then. Americas plantations kept British textile mills fed with the supply of high quality cotton they needed to make yarn, cloth and clothes. Alot of Northerners resented the fact that Southern slave owners were getting richer than most of them and that with the exploding population of the South due to increasing slaves they had more representation in the legislature because slaves counted as partial citizens even though they didn't have a right to vote.
It would have been interesting to have you show this and talk about it and ask your questions in a group discussion with somieone who is a student of the history of the war and environs. As it is, I can recommend a book or two: James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom," and Doris Kearns Goodwin's "Team of Rivals," if you want to get a picture of how it all came about. It was indeed more complex that it is normally said although, this little video you showed isn't bad.
There are recordings of former slaves at the beginning of recording technology and it's amazing to hear them speak. Would love to hear you react to those
I’m not sure I’m ready for that, I might get emotional
Gotta get them views somehow lol, but in all seriousness I think everyone should hear them especially this one woman whose name I can't remember. You talk about a woman having the grace of God, I mean man. Either way it's obviously your choice sir
@@kabirconsiders What's wrong with getting emotional? Emotions are valid.
Yes, Lincoln was a great speaker. You should react to the Gettysburg Address after these two videos.
Lincoln was a great orator, debater, wrestler, and hand-to-hand fighter. A decent soldier as well, in the Blackhawk War. Basically unbeatable, man-to-man, verbally or otherwise. Like Washington, a literal giant of a man (for the time).
There's this quote from Abe Lincoln that, if true, is probably the sickest comeback to anything in history. A lady called him two-faced, because of his politics, where he said he wasn't going to go to war but was totally going to go to war, and legend has it he replied, "Mam, if I had two faces, would I wear this one?"
We had to memorize the Gettysburg address in Jr high. So about 14 years old. It took awhile.
Slavery in the south went well beyond “peoples ability to feed themselves“. It was about wealth and power. Plantation owners that were wealthy enough to own slaves had no concerns about whether or not they were going to be able to feed them selves.
That’s a real oversimplification. How about the vast majority of Southerners who didn’t own plantations or slaves? Their motivation was not the same as the plantation types. Yet they backed, fought and died for the Confederacy.
@@docbearmb but it was not economic. Slaveholders were at the peak of Southern society, both economically and socially. The inferiority of blacks was assumed almost universally. There had long been fear of slave uprisings. Finally, the position of slaves at the bottom of Southern society gave a sense of status to poor whites.
I’m pretty sure there’s still blood on the ground from the caning
Well, people looked at the American Civil War from the slavery aspect in today's world, which I genuinely do understand. But there was more of why it was started than slavery......
-- Taxes .... The south didn't want ANY taxes. Whereas, the north wanted taxes to better the states, counties, etc. (As is the American reason to have taxes. NOT as a payday for the politicians)
-- The clash of cultures..... Both had, and still have difference of cultures. They wanted one culture throughout the nation, then. (Now, we like the fact there's a different culture in both the north & the south)
Obviously, slavery stole the show for the American Civil War. In hindsight, I understand, but history needs to show off the full boiling pot that is called the "American Civil War".
At 13:15 you spoke that these people fear losing their jobs/livelihood. Livelihood not jobs.
Wow, I'm here just 21 minutes after posting! Getting faster, quality stuff as always mate
I Really enjoy ALL the Oversimplified videos !!
Yeah it’s an awesome channel!
A fact about the civil war is sometime family was divide and someone in family maybe on one side and someone maybe on the other side of war. They may had fight each other in a battle and died. That how blooding the civil war was.
The southern states, at the time, if you separated them from the rest of the US, they would’ve been the 6th largest economy in the world. It was the equivalent of silicon valley. It wasn’t simply a matter of “feeding themselves,” it was incredible wealth being made, which many their descendants still live on today.
I agree that they were very wealthy and all that but I don’t know where you heard their descendants still live on those profits today, that’s simply not true on every measurable margin, most times wealth doesn’t last three generations even with tight inheritance. I don’t want to make assumptions but whoever told you that probably had an agenda that involved the continued demonization of modern day southern folk.
In modern day, if a state wants to secede from the Union, you have quite a lot in your way. You need the majority vote of the state's population, you need to win your cases against the supreme courts, and the state's government has to send it to Congress in the House and Senate to approve and sign off on it. Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, and Vermont have all tried to secede from the Union SINCE the Civil War, most of them occurring in the last 30 years, all for various reasons and all of them being rejected. Most of them being because they didn't approve of the outcome of the presidential election.
Wow I've never been this early before
Super early 😎💨
@@kabirconsiders that's what happens when you turn on notifications for your Channel
A state can leave if it wants but it then looses all the protections and advantages of being a federally recognized state, no penalties if they leave like uncle same won't roll out the tanks on em. A modern secession wouldn't end in open conflict like the Civil war
The first slave owner in America was actually a black man. There were indentured servants before this. In 1621, a black man by the name of Anthony Johnson arrived from Africa to Virginia to be an indentured servant, not a slave. He was captured by Arab traders in his native Angola and sold as a slave. By 1635, he had completed his service contract, and by the late 1640’s he had acquired 250 acres of land. As a land owner, he started using indentured servants himself, acquiring five. In 1654, one of his servants, a black man by the name of John Casor, was due for release from his service. Johnson decided to extend his service, and Casor left to work for Robert Parker, who was a free white man. That year, Johnson sued Parker in Northampton Court, and in 1655, the court ruled that Johnson could hold Cason indefinitely. The court gave sanction for blacks to hold slaves of their own race. This made Anthony Johnson the first American slave owner and John Cason the first slave in the American colonies. It was another 15 years before the colonial assembly granted free whites, blacks, and Indians permission to own black slaves.
You should watch the film "Lincoln" with Daniel Day-Lewis portraying him.
I’ll check it out
We here in Kansas - that is FREE STATE Kansas - basically were fighting the Civil War before it was cool.
And we still fight “Border Wars” with rival sports between Kansas and Missouri.
I don't have time to watch this entire thing right now, and I don't know if it was brought out, but there were slaveholders in northern states, and many sympathizers, as well. And the Civil War was not fought over slavery. In fact, Lincoln stated that if he could hold the Union together without freeing one slave he would do so. And oddly enough, the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all slaves. Slaves in the states fighting for the north remained slaves.
There's a song called John Brown's Body:
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
But his soul goes marching on
He captured Harper's Ferry with his nineteen men so trueHe frightened old Virginia till she trembled through and throughThey hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crewBut his soul goes marching on
"Glory, glory, hallelujah!" It became a very popular tune, and with lyric re-writes it became the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" It was actually one of Winston Churchill's favorite songs and it was played at his funeral.
In the link I posted here, a tour guide of the Kansas Capitol leads his tour group in an impromptu singing of that song. I couldn’t have remembered it.
@@TheCsel
The Battle Hymn of the Republic is some powerful stuff. I mean...
"In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me
As He died to make men holy let us die to make men free
His truth is marching on"
Man. I'm not even from a Christian background, and yet I can still feel the force of that rhetorical punch all the way across the century-plus.
If you really want to simplify it even further - slavery was already doomed. The North could have just waited it out for it to die on its own as the rest of the world spurned slavery, leaving the South holding the bag. They would have phased it out eventually, but it became too big of an issue of the time. The civil war did not need to happen at all. That’s the tragedy.
How do you know what's weird about the whole thing? Black people still kiss the Democrats asses they was living on the Democrat plantation back in slavery days and they are still living on the Democrat plantation
Very astute observation about the power of money… while this war was definitely about slavery, the spark that started it was Lincoln punishing the South with high tariffs on imported industrial equipment needed by plantations….
Otherwise anti-slavery France and Britain built ships for the South because their economies depended on southern cotton.
The Southern States we’re contemplating how to phase out slavery if they did gain independence, because they would need anti-slavery Catholic Mexico as a military and economic ally more than they needed cheap labor.
The Czar or Russia sent his largest fleet
Of ships to protect California from British/French assisted naval assault, fearing that they would control the gold and banking there, which for some reason I don’t remember would
have long term negative consequences for Russia’s economy.
Article 6 of the Constitution held the Perpetual Union law. That would mean the states could not leave.
Not going to make a big comment here, but yes this time period is stressful. My grandmother was the first HomeBound teacher in SC who taught black kids.
Her best friend growing up was Granny Nance, Minnie Nance's (my nanny) mother. Minnie's son Larry Nance (NBA Legend) taught me to play basketball....
Yeah, in South Carolina we have learned to live together for over 100 years... But now they are trying to drive a wedge between us, however my life long friends (50 yrs old) and I refuse to follow the narrative they want to push on national tv. Fk that
Thank you for seeing above the narrative my friend!
Missouri wasn't a slave state....it was a half and half state....we were a true brother against brother state
there has been murder on the senate floor. i learned that in government class when i was in high school.
there is the famous great abe lincoln speech that was said to be so great that the press that were there forgot to take notes to report the speech in the press
There may be others with more expertise on the subject, but my recollection is there were arguments bot for and against the legality of secession prior to the civil war, so it was not definitive at the time. however, the Declaration of Independence does IIRC refer to the union as perpetual or something to that effect. After the war, there was a Supreme Court decision called texas vs White that did rule secession to be uncontitutional. But, most historians i have read refer to the idea being really settled by the result of the war itself, namely the defeat of the Confederacy.
I think whats ridiculous is how "oppressed" the south was feeling when it literally had things going their way for them in all branches of government from the very beginning and especially on the slavery issue. They had been appeased for decades but the minute things didnt go their way, they rebelled loo
Because that's not how victim mentality works!
Right, of the first 12 presidents...only Lincoln and both Adams weren't slaver/plantation owners...9 out 12 doesn't sound too oppressive to me.
@@seansimms8503 also not to mention generally the south had control of the US Supreme Court
The south was taxed at a rate much higher than the north. The south produced raw goods. The north had the manufacturing plants making higher profits. They also had the population to control the laws of the land. The sucession was not actually over slavery. Lincoln sought not to end slavery. He sought not to allow any more slave states. Slavery was officially added to the articles of war in year 3 of the Civil War.
React to hood accents in America it’s gon show you the variety of hoods and they accents
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fuin note. you know the term uncle tom. it comes from that book and was twisted from a positive term to a negative term because racists didn't like the book. other books twisted the term Uncle Tom, until it became a negative phrase.
Fun fact: A little girl actually did send a letter to Lincoln asking him to grow a beard because it would make him look better and that is why he grew one
Uncle Tom's cabin is pretty much required reading (or was when I was in show in the 2000s) in US public schools
The remark made by the child at the train station was true.