I always appreciated how, towards the end of the Illusionist, it is revealed that the effects previously shown in the movie weren't actually as perfect as they were made out to be, but rather, just like you say, they were shown this way to match the experience of the audience in the story itself.
"No one is floating inside a bubble"... Well actually back in the early 1990s, Sigfried and Roy did a levitation where Sigfried was inside of a giant balloon. He was visible inside the balloon but it wasn't as crystal clear as this bubble.
"It is emotional true if not factual" This reminds me of peoples experience when the first phonographs were invented. If they closed their eyes the listener literraly believed a band was playing. Now when we hear old recordings we cannot understand how they could believed that, since to our ears it so obviously a recording.
It still stands with television images. When DVDs first came out (and with them, 720p "High Definition" video), my parents and I were watching a movie, paused it for a bathroom break, and my mom commented that the picture on the screen "could be a Rembrandt." Now I sell $98 TVs that people complain have 1080p screens instead of 4K and they're "mediocre".
I remember Penn Jillette reacting to the first trick and pointing out that it would probably not have been an impressive trick for the audience since it's too perfect and there is only way it could be done.
I would like to see a historical discussion in full detail on The Prestige much like how you talked about The Illusionist at the end. Specifically, I’m curious to know if they actually killed birds back then and how/when magicians changed their methods. Also, I would like to know your thoughts about the main piece of monologue in the movie presented by Michael Cain where he explains the 3 steps of a prestige and how much truth that has.
I just discovered your channel, I’m loving the reaction videos! I was a big fan of card tricks years ago and recently coming back to it. I just found my old bicycle ghost gaff decks, absolutely beautiful cards!
Loved this video Wes! Keep diving into movie magic! Maybe add "The Sting" and "Shade" to the list? Would still love to see that genuine orange tree illusion.
I loved seeing you review these movies. I watch another channel where they get real magicians, real doctors, real physicists, or real whatever is in the movies they are showing and then they have them watch it and they have them review the movie and say if it’s real or not. So this was like that but way better not so clinical feeling like their channel is. Keep up the awesome content....we are all loving it!
Omg I love the prestige, my all time fav! I’ve been waiting for ages for this video! Thank you so much, i’ve always wanted to know what’s real or not in those movies about magic! Great video keep the good work!!
The ending of the prestige is one of the most haunting movie conclusions I've ever seen. It has been years and years since i saw the movie and i still feel the experience in my gut of the end.
So looking forward to more of these! And I agree that giving film audiences the right feeling is more important that being exactly realistic, but I still like to know the physics behind the illusions. I love Jim Steinmeyer's books for their details about the history of magic.
This is awesome Wes. Great content. Im a new subscriber, you gotta do more of these. I came here from Chris's channel lol but I'm here now. Any content that involves you just riffing about funny movie scenes or reddit magic would be hilarious every time.
I don’t think any of them are straight up VFX but I do think they cut out certain parts of the tricks that would make the method obvious on repeat viewings.
@@antoniodiavolo that's entirely possible as well, however I haven't seen the show recently enough to confirm that. I know any setup would be done off camera, making reverse engineering the tricks incredibly difficult.
Jonathan Gilson One of their main claims is no camera tricks or stooges so ig it depends on what you define as a camera trick. Imo, a camera trick would be a trick that could only work on camera. So that would mean like most of the stuff Criss Angel used to do on Mindfreak. I think all of these tricks can be (and are) performed live for real people, but as I said the important bits (like forces) are done off camera so viewers can’t reverse engineer it easily. And tbh Im fine with that.
Okay, first and foremost, I admit that I have way more important shit to do than watch Wes watch magic on television and movies and discuss how it was done. And yet, this is my 8th (?) video I've watched in a row...
When you said about the illusionist, I thought you might look at peppas ghost. Oddly enough had to have the same conversation about it as you did with the orange tree. Love how it was done but knew it would have been a lot different in person.
Can you react to the scene in now you see me during the ferry ride where Dave Franco’s character bends a spoon without touching it ? Or jus that of the other magic
Jerek 120 (Disturb Reality) broke down the Now You See Me card trick also isn't the handcuff interrogation scene from Now You See Me technically the same as the handcuff scene in The Prestige
Awesome format! Happy to know that there will be more of this! If you want suggestions maybe take a look at some stuff of this "The Mentalist" TV series, I never watched? :D
There is a great little sequence in Mission Impossible 1. When Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise) has the floppy disk with the NOX list and he do some sleight of hand making it disappear then get it out of the woman's coat
Speaking of magic in movies, did you ever see the TV series "Jonathan Creek?" Alan Davies works as a creative consultant to a stage magician while also solving mysteries (because solving mysteries is the number two occupation in British TV series).
Well Jesse Eisenberg actually fooled Wes cause that 7 ♦️ force is no skill required!!!! Lollllll HE FOOLED YOU WESLEY!!!! Maybe for you, road work was the right career choice.
I think it's less of force and more of people choosing the easiest cards to remember. I once forgot what the hell a spade was for years (in terms of cards). So of course I'd choose a diamond or heart if I ever could, during such magic tricks (I also forget club is a house as well). Then of course people have favorite numbers and it always seems to be odd ones. Possibly because we don't expect magicians to choose odd because...well odd numbers are difficult to work with in math so why choose it for a trick? Now the color is always the hardest part and that I would say is once again based on people forgetting about spade and club houses, and diamonds and hearts are always red so I can imagine red would be a fan favorite. But I'm not a magician I just love the craft and cardistry so I am taking guesses from the little I know.
It's a psychological trick. The card in front of the seven of diamonds is filed so when he rifles through the deck the seven of diamonds shows up much longer than the other cards, which causes most people to fixate on that one card
Bubble + Wires is fine, for some things... trying to pull off small object levitates inside bubbles would be about the extent of it though. Having a (dry) performer hop into the bubble wouldn't work though, and even to consistently get bubbles of that size might make it not work often enough.
The tricks in Now You See Me were mostly hand doubles, to the extent that sometimes Jesse Eisenberg didn't even know how they were done! Can you please explain whether or not the trick in NYSM2 where he falls into a puddle is real?
would've been neat if they showed edward norton's character backstage, fiddling with the actual mechanical illusion, so the viewer can clue into the fact that the effect they showed was kinda the theater audience's mind filling in the gaps/embelishing their perception of the trick on their own
3:35 The only problem is, she never said her card out loud, so why was the crowd cheering? And if they all looked and "saw" the 7 of Diamonds, did no one find it suspicions, that they all "saw" the same card?
In NYSM, on top of the force, if you back up to where he’s practicing in the loft, as the camera pans around the room, behind a beam, is a 7D stuck to it in the shadows just visible to prep the movie audience for the coming force.
Have you seen the Prestige? The two doors trick is not fake (although as filmed is) but has a solution tied to major plot reveals. The impossibility of the trick and the rivalry driven by it is central to the story. The trick is intentionally "impossible" in the story, that's the point of it. You really should watch the movie. It is excellent.
So regarding the bubble having it float and jump into it would not be possible. Still, you could do something very similar; you can form a bubble above someone and have them move inside. The issue is it won't like long, and it's hard to do without having it pot unless you use a specific mixture; you can use ad chemicals to the bubble soap mix that makes it so it's possible to have the bubble so it won't pop on impact when inside and touching the sides. Also, if you had the person set to an invisible floating rig, you could have the person float away with the bubble intact, but the number of things that could go wrong would be enormous. Check out some old videos of Melody Yang Gazillion Bubble Show. Demonstrates different types of bubble equipment use that you could use to get a similar effect. Yes I'm way to into bubble magic/science :P
I'm no magician so great respect for your opinion and I accept that the forced 7D on "Now you see me" can be done in real life. But I think that for the filmed trick I think they did it digitally. My reasons for thinking this is that the card shows for exactly 2 frames. I might be wrong, but I think that's probably the fast and easier way to do it.
loved this video! I actually once thought of buying a variation of Robert-Houdin's "Marvelous Orange Tree", obiously changed my mind after seeing the price. Such a beautiful act though!
The problem with the "Now You See Me" flicks is that the "magicians" basically have superpowers. It would've been much more interesting if they'd done things that could actually be done.
Can you react to this magician show i think its called the greatest magician tricks unrevealed its a dude with a black mask on and hes basically explaining how magic tricks work i think it would be interesting if you react to it
Slight thing you might have missed for the movie part of “now you see me” the bubble girl effect was portrayed as a hollow graphic effect not a flying effect (foreshadowing act3 the vanish into cash) The trick is still Hollywood at this time, but maybe another 10 or 15 years maybe doable.
My question is that during the one with the cards and building, why is everyone cheering when she never told anyone what her card was. How do they know he got it right?
Flying in a bubble like that no. But Siegfried and Roy actually have done an incredible version of flying in a bubble above the audience which I believe that was inspired from.
I love how the opening from Now You See Me kind of works on the audience too, makes it a magic trick for us as well as the characters
Didn't Jesse Eisenberg's character say he bribed the electrician for the building?
He sure did
He mentioned that as well, but an electricion couldn't "easily" do this as well.
Yup he did
I always appreciated how, towards the end of the Illusionist, it is revealed that the effects previously shown in the movie weren't actually as perfect as they were made out to be, but rather, just like you say, they were shown this way to match the experience of the audience in the story itself.
"No one is floating inside a bubble"... Well actually back in the early 1990s, Sigfried and Roy did a levitation where Sigfried was inside of a giant balloon. He was visible inside the balloon but it wasn't as crystal clear as this bubble.
You could do a whole video on the episode of Monk "Mr Monk and the magician".
Or on magic fakers. "Magic or magunk" as a title or something
Or night court.
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You should hit up corridor crew and see if they’d be interested in a magicians react episode! That’d be dope
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@@WesBarker just means I love you more 😂
You are not second but you are the first person to type second. Idk what that makes you🤷
@@WesBarker 1st The worst, second the best, third the one who couldn't care less
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Didn't know the orange tree has a real version, I would love to see it!
The Marvelous Orange Tree, created by Jean Eugène-Robert Houdin (1805-1871)
m.th-cam.com/video/SZb4nw7_hGY/w-d-xo.html
Dynamo magician did it
"It is emotional true if not factual" This reminds me of peoples experience when the first phonographs were invented. If they closed their eyes the listener literraly believed a band was playing. Now when we hear old recordings we cannot understand how they could believed that, since to our ears it so obviously a recording.
That's such a perfect way to explain that!
It still stands with television images. When DVDs first came out (and with them, 720p "High Definition" video), my parents and I were watching a movie, paused it for a bathroom break, and my mom commented that the picture on the screen "could be a Rembrandt."
Now I sell $98 TVs that people complain have 1080p screens instead of 4K and they're "mediocre".
I remember Penn Jillette reacting to the first trick and pointing out that it would probably not have been an impressive trick for the audience since it's too perfect and there is only way it could be done.
Im pretty sure micheal cane’s character in the movie also told hugh jackman that it was “too perfect” but he didnt listen to him
I would like to see a historical discussion in full detail on The Prestige much like how you talked about The Illusionist at the end. Specifically, I’m curious to know if they actually killed birds back then and how/when magicians changed their methods.
Also, I would like to know your thoughts about the main piece of monologue in the movie presented by Michael Cain where he explains the 3 steps of a prestige and how much truth that has.
I just discovered your channel, I’m loving the reaction videos! I was a big fan of card tricks years ago and recently coming back to it. I just found my old bicycle ghost gaff decks, absolutely beautiful cards!
All I could think was Wes’s pocket looks like a silhouette of a cats face...
U mean optimus prime
Joshua jay always have a emotional story that perfectly fits his magic routines😇👏👏👏
Nice content bro👍
I've had a pretty bad couple days. But for some reason, seeing his smile at the paul rudd clips just made me feel so much better.
Strong opening, The Prestige is one of my favorite movies ever!
The Prestige is not only the best magic movie but it is one of the best movies ever made in general.
I especially liked when Hugh Jackman was disguised as Hugh Jackman
theres a scene from magnificent 7 where Chris Pratt does a magic trick, you should check that one out
That was actual pretty interesting! Thanks for clearing some things up for me ;-) Looking forward to more of this.
Loved this video Wes! Keep diving into movie magic! Maybe add "The Sting" and "Shade" to the list? Would still love to see that genuine orange tree illusion.
I loved seeing you review these movies. I watch another channel where they get real magicians, real doctors, real physicists, or real whatever is in the movies they are showing and then they have them watch it and they have them review the movie and say if it’s real or not. So this was like that but way better not so clinical feeling like their channel is. Keep up the awesome content....we are all loving it!
Omg I love the prestige, my all time fav! I’ve been waiting for ages for this video! Thank you so much, i’ve always wanted to know what’s real or not in those movies about magic! Great video keep the good work!!
The ending of the prestige is one of the most haunting movie conclusions I've ever seen. It has been years and years since i saw the movie and i still feel the experience in my gut of the end.
The thing that annoyed me about The Illusionist was how much of the magic was CGI that could have been done for real in camera.
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So looking forward to more of these! And I agree that giving film audiences the right feeling is more important that being exactly realistic, but I still like to know the physics behind the illusions. I love Jim Steinmeyer's books for their details about the history of magic.
That Paul Rudd movie character is just like you I swear to god that's you.
Watching Wandavision? There was a nice little nod to that Antman scene in episode 4 😉 (with the Jimmy Woo character)
The shuffles from The Sting! That had some good editing
Absolutely, I would love to see more NYSM. How about Disney's Magic Camp too? I expected it to be more movie than magic and was pleasantly surprised.
I agree about the tree trick. @9:27 When I saw the original trick from many years ago, I was truly amazed. I kept thinking... "No Way!!
Your commentary is positive and great
This is a great premise Wes. So good! 👍👍👍
this is a REALLY cool video, genuinely really interesting. Thanks for sharing 😊
Might I suggest looking at the card trick Jeremy Piven does in Smokin' Aces.
What's the name of the force he uses for the 7♦️ trick? 🤔
hey at 3:04 whats that force called and when can i learn it, it look really good.
Great video. Love how Chris and Eric are trolling you. :)
This is awesome Wes. Great content. Im a new subscriber, you gotta do more of these. I came here from Chris's channel lol but I'm here now. Any content that involves you just riffing about funny movie scenes or reddit magic would be hilarious every time.
What’s the name of the real version of the growing tree illusion?
Talk about the Netflix Show “Magic for Humans” and what tricks are vfx/camera tricks vs practical.
You can assume he lies but he says there's no camera tricks if I'm not mistaken.
The guy on magic for humans is legitimately a magician and can, in all likelihood do everything show on camera for real.
I don’t think any of them are straight up VFX but I do think they cut out certain parts of the tricks that would make the method obvious on repeat viewings.
@@antoniodiavolo that's entirely possible as well, however I haven't seen the show recently enough to confirm that.
I know any setup would be done off camera, making reverse engineering the tricks incredibly difficult.
Jonathan Gilson One of their main claims is no camera tricks or stooges so ig it depends on what you define as a camera trick.
Imo, a camera trick would be a trick that could only work on camera. So that would mean like most of the stuff Criss Angel used to do on Mindfreak.
I think all of these tricks can be (and are) performed live for real people, but as I said the important bits (like forces) are done off camera so viewers can’t reverse engineer it easily. And tbh Im fine with that.
Really great video! Love this content, man!
Okay, first and foremost, I admit that I have way more important shit to do than watch Wes watch magic on television and movies and discuss how it was done. And yet, this is my 8th (?) video I've watched in a row...
I just love how the pen and teller fool us trophy looks like if says F U! How dare you fool us!
Please review the show, “perception.” It’s so awesome and I have always wondered how accurate it was.
I love this video idea man 👏🏻
When you said about the illusionist, I thought you might look at peppas ghost. Oddly enough had to have the same conversation about it as you did with the orange tree. Love how it was done but knew it would have been a lot different in person.
I enjoyed this, and would love to see a part II that tackles movies that depict card hustling like Rounders, Shade, etc
Pls i beg do one for Disneys Magic Camp and Sleight
Can you react to the scene in now you see me during the ferry ride where Dave Franco’s character bends a spoon without touching it ? Or jus that of the other magic
Jerek 120 (Disturb Reality) broke down the Now You See Me card trick also isn't the handcuff interrogation scene from Now You See Me technically the same as the handcuff scene in The Prestige
Awesome format! Happy to know that there will be more of this!
If you want suggestions maybe take a look at some stuff of this "The Mentalist" TV series, I never watched? :D
There is a great little sequence in Mission Impossible 1. When Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise) has the floppy disk with the NOX list and he do some sleight of hand making it disappear then get it out of the woman's coat
Enjoyed it. Also, prefer Prestige over Illusionist too. Thank you.
Don't know why, but, magic or not, one of the best reviews i've seen in a while.
hey could you take a look at some of the card trick in white collar
Speaking of magic in movies, did you ever see the TV series "Jonathan Creek?" Alan Davies works as a creative consultant to a stage magician while also solving mysteries (because solving mysteries is the number two occupation in British TV series).
"Emotionally true, not factually true" = Professional Wrestling.
Sumo is both emotionally and factually true
Well Jesse Eisenberg actually fooled Wes cause that 7 ♦️ force is no skill required!!!! Lollllll HE FOOLED YOU WESLEY!!!! Maybe for you, road work was the right career choice.
you do it then
Lollll
@@BalderDye yeah @Eric Leclerc if it's so easy let's see you do that force. FAT CHANCE! 😂
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Gotta love Now you see me for using theory 11 cards!
3:19 how do they force you to think 7 diamonds when you could see other cards?
I think it's less of force and more of people choosing the easiest cards to remember. I once forgot what the hell a spade was for years (in terms of cards). So of course I'd choose a diamond or heart if I ever could, during such magic tricks (I also forget club is a house as well). Then of course people have favorite numbers and it always seems to be odd ones. Possibly because we don't expect magicians to choose odd because...well odd numbers are difficult to work with in math so why choose it for a trick? Now the color is always the hardest part and that I would say is once again based on people forgetting about spade and club houses, and diamonds and hearts are always red so I can imagine red would be a fan favorite. But I'm not a magician I just love the craft and cardistry so I am taking guesses from the little I know.
It's a psychological trick. The card in front of the seven of diamonds is filed so when he rifles through the deck the seven of diamonds shows up much longer than the other cards, which causes most people to fixate on that one card
Rick Jay was the man. Nice video. Thanks!
Bubble + Wires is fine, for some things... trying to pull off small object levitates inside bubbles would be about the extent of it though. Having a (dry) performer hop into the bubble wouldn't work though, and even to consistently get bubbles of that size might make it not work often enough.
Everytime they do that 7 of diamonds force, the first time around I keep seeing 5 of spades.
The tricks in Now You See Me were mostly hand doubles, to the extent that sometimes Jesse Eisenberg didn't even know how they were done!
Can you please explain whether or not the trick in NYSM2 where he falls into a puddle is real?
would've been neat if they showed edward norton's character backstage, fiddling with the actual mechanical illusion, so the viewer can clue into the fact that the effect they showed was kinda the theater audience's mind filling in the gaps/embelishing their perception of the trick on their own
3:35 The only problem is, she never said her card out loud, so why was the crowd cheering? And if they all looked and "saw" the 7 of Diamonds, did no one find it suspicions, that they all "saw" the same card?
Now I have the only one question. How did you do your trick to get your troffy? :)
Can you review Lord of Illusion
I thought the 7 of diamonds “force” was a camera trick where they just showed the 7 for 2 frames, cool to know they can do it either way!
Please react to the audience teleportation in "The Incredible Burt Wonderstone" 😂😂😂
I LOVE RICKY JAY literally watch Ricky Jay and his 52 assistants i finally learned the opening 4 queen trick but yea definately reccommend it
In NYSM, on top of the force, if you back up to where he’s practicing in the loft, as the camera pans around the room, behind a beam, is a 7D stuck to it in the shadows just visible to prep the movie audience for the coming force.
Maverick with Mel Gibson! Smooth talking, self depricating Riverboat card cheat! 🙌
Love that movie
When’s the next one of these coming out
I think that the bubble thing is optical illusion using light and projection n also wire to make her fly.
You must see the “The Illusionist (Deception” serie!
Love this! Cool info!
The incredible Burt wonderstone of course!
Including the last trick?
How did he force the 7 of diamonds? The only card I could make out clearly the first time was 7 of clubs
Have you seen the Prestige? The two doors trick is not fake (although as filmed is) but has a solution tied to major plot reveals. The impossibility of the trick and the rivalry driven by it is central to the story. The trick is intentionally "impossible" in the story, that's the point of it. You really should watch the movie. It is excellent.
So regarding the bubble having it float and jump into it would not be possible. Still, you could do something very similar; you can form a bubble above someone and have them move inside. The issue is it won't like long, and it's hard to do without having it pot unless you use a specific mixture; you can use ad chemicals to the bubble soap mix that makes it so it's possible to have the bubble so it won't pop on impact when inside and touching the sides. Also, if you had the person set to an invisible floating rig, you could have the person float away with the bubble intact, but the number of things that could go wrong would be enormous.
Check out some old videos of Melody Yang Gazillion Bubble Show.
Demonstrates different types of bubble equipment use that you could use to get a similar effect. Yes I'm way to into bubble magic/science :P
I'm no magician so great respect for your opinion and I accept that the forced 7D on "Now you see me" can be done in real life. But I think that for the filmed trick I think they did it digitally. My reasons for thinking this is that the card shows for exactly 2 frames. I might be wrong, but I think that's probably the fast and easier way to do it.
I'm subscribing, good shit . . Kudos 👍
loved this video! I actually once thought of buying a variation of Robert-Houdin's "Marvelous Orange Tree", obiously changed my mind after seeing the price. Such a beautiful act though!
More please!
Great commentary
The problem with the "Now You See Me" flicks is that the "magicians" basically have superpowers. It would've been much more interesting if they'd done things that could actually be done.
Alright alright im subbing haha GOOD CONTENT!
Can you react to this magician show i think its called the greatest magician tricks unrevealed its a dude with a black mask on and hes basically explaining how magic tricks work i think it would be interesting if you react to it
I want to see one for Incredible Burt Wonderstone
This is a really good idea. If I had frens I would share this
😂 👊🏻
Start a series
I heard the Christian Bale magic at the end of Prestige is real too, they had 100 clones and actually killed them over the course of the shoot
So method :)
Slight thing you might have missed for the movie part of “now you see me” the bubble girl effect was portrayed as a hollow graphic effect not a flying effect (foreshadowing act3 the vanish into cash) The trick is still Hollywood at this time, but maybe another 10 or 15 years maybe doable.
Ahhhhh you’re right. I didn’t fully consider the rest of the movie. Same result I guess but I did miss that.
My question is that during the one with the cards and building, why is everyone cheering when she never told anyone what her card was. How do they know he got it right?
I think they were impressed by the big scene
Great video
Nice
Thanks for the info bro
Flying in a bubble like that no. But Siegfried and Roy actually have done an incredible version of flying in a bubble above the audience which I believe that was inspired from.
I know you asked for movie suggestions, but consider adding Arrested Development to the mix.
Do that new one... Magic Camp 😎😂