Here in Maine you can EASILY get turned around and lose track of direction at night and especially on cloudy overcast days. Moss grows on all sides of a tree so that cannot be used to orient, and compasses don’t always work. I’ve been out exploring with experienced hunters who knew the area well and we still got “lost”. If you can hunker down for the night it’s much safer than risking tramping around the tangle of undergrowth and uneven footing of boulders and ravines.
@@BigMarv55 yes, totally agree, except when it was originally just a 2 hour leisurely hike in your own neighborhood and you need to be at work to open by 7AM. 🔑😜
One thing that could use more discussion is when to decide to set up camp. Realistically, a lot of people would continue to walk around trying to get un-lost until it got dark or it set in that they were hopelessly lost.
He accompanied alot for late in the afternoon. Most would “push on hoping to extract themselves. 2 wise tools to pack- knife and ferro rod (or lighter)
I survived a freezing night in the sierra Nevada mountain range, 2’ of snow…. when I was eight years old with nothing. Again… when I was 14. Wind river range ,Wyoming. 2 foot snowstorm. Stayed in my sleeping bag for three days. Tarp lean-to and small burner to heat food and hot chocolate. hiked 50 miles into the wilderness using topo map and compass. We returned to the car a month later.
When you mentioned the wind coming through the bottom of the valley, it is a good point. I immediately thought of how the cold settles to the low spots. It will be warmer up on the hill side.
Don’t mind the critics, this was a good video and you clearly stated the purpose right at the beginning. It seems that lots of guys get upset if someone doesn’t do something their way.
Thank you for this video. It looks like you found an excellent spot to create your shelter. The level of time and effort required to create that shelter out of found, natural materials tells me that a 7' X 9' (2.13 m X 2.75 m) heavy-duty, reflective tarp and an insulated mattress (closed-cell foam or air) of some sort are worth their weight in gold. In addition to my regular fire kit, I always carry two, 30-minute road flares, for that moment when I must absolutely, positively start a fire. I like the bough bed.
Absolutely, we'd agree that being properly prepared and taking the right equipment with you is the best strategy every time! "I'd rather have it and not need it; than need it and not have it."
I was looking at the same downed tree you chose to build your shelter around. It's nice to know I had that part right. Finding high ground that's below the top of the hill is a great idea, and something that may not have occurred to me. I know you want to stay away from that bottomland which could freeze and fill with fog, sucking the life out of you. And I know the top of the hill will be windy, and even if you're on the windy side of the hill, it won't be as bad if you aren't in the open at the top. But I wasn't thinking much about it. And I didn't know about building a crib to keep the boughs from shifting around and falling out. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. A couple candy bars or something to eat and I'd be happy spending the night out there. That's 10000% better than sleeping in a pup tent at -17 degrees, with no heat, like I did in basic training. It seemed like they were going to kill us that night, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And gives you nightmares. 😉
@@UnionSportsmen I didn't sleep all night either. Whenever I started to doze off I had a full-body shiver that shook me right down to my core. I've never had shivers like that before or since, even when my extremities were going numb. The only break I got from freezing in my sleeping bag was pulling guard duty. Then I sat in a foxhole with a machine gun and was even colder. it's nights like that that make you wish you were in an igloo with a small candle for heat. Maybe the worst part was knowing that the women were all in a tent with a coal burning stove at each end while I was freezing my nuts off. It was probably too hot in there. They may say they want equality... until they get uncomfortable. Then they want heat, and cots to sleep on, instead of air mattresses on the bare ground. I swear the army could give you PTSD before you even got out of basic training.
Excellent points and I can clearly see the amount of work that went into showing us this. As your video states, “how to survive” is different to me than a how to plan and then go camp in a freezing situation. When you find yourself in a situation unplanned, these tips are invaluable. Subscribed.
My thinking would be if you’re going out in this kind of weather for a hike or a hunt and even a possible chance you might spend the night, I personally would have brought water, a small tent or tarp and or blanket. Definitely wouldn’t kneel on snow either.
One thing I learned is, when you think you have enough firewood. Double or triple it! I like big fires so I use a lot. Couple other things I would do differently than you did, but I’m not going to criticize.
I see a lot of criticism but the scenario is that you are not really prepared but have to spend the night out in cold, wet conditions. Thanks for the video. I think it would still be a miserable night, but you'd probably survive. I might cut off a sleeve of my t shirt and wear it on my head for a little warmth in that scenario.
Another method of keeping warm is building a fire and then using the fire pit for your bed and of course covering it with bows and then laying on top of them
My day pack always has a few things that I need to camp overnight, even in bad conditions or longer if needed. I have survival training, but if you have to survive vs. hasty camp, it sucks. For instance, ferro rod. Yes, but I also carry 3 lighters and matches that weigh nothing and take little room. However, I can confirm that even so-called experienced hikers don't consider beyond snacks and water.
Dont forget to put your grayl near the fire, otherwise it will freeze and your filter will not serve anything. Water filters in winter are useless unless you take extreme care of it. Good video for outdoor enthusiasts who find themselves stuck in the woods with little equipment. Here in Quebec, the cold kills every few years of people who go to the forest with their expensive trousers and boots coats and which brings little or no strict minimum equipment to survive the unexpected...
Wise to build a wood base under the fire- saved my butt when a canoe overturned on a river- helped to dry 2 people out and a great morale booster… had lunch right then
That's very true. He actually does mention that...not initially when he is leaving the low area but at 6:18 when he recaps why he picks a spot below the crest of the hill but above the stream area.
16:14 I would encourage all newcomers to pause the optics right here. THIS is why I never move more than a football field away from my well equipped vehicle, especially on a four season trek, without 2-3 jumbo size contractors bags. Preferably 4mil but 3 mil folds down better. They ride nicely, one in each cargo pocket, and the third in a jacket pocket or lumbar game pocket. It’s understandable why we wouldn’t necessarily have the perfect ultralight tarp on hand but keeping a roll of contractors bags in a vehicle has basically no downside. Even a 5mph breeze will cut through those gaps like a frozen blade. I’d guesstimate that 99% of the bush shelters we see on youtube will provide for a night of the briefest cat naps with the main focus being keeping the fire fed and moving frozen appendages back toward the heat. While trying not to think “hey I’m kinda sitting in a huge tinder bundle!” It’s the insomnia that works with lack of calories, low level anxiety and a caffeine withdrawal head pounder, to make for a pretty tough situation come day two or three. Definitely not the best mindset for trying to futz with traps, snares, twisting up primitive cordage or making ersatz fishing tackle. I lived in Erie, Pennsylvania through the winter of 2017-18 and thought about it every time I looked out the window across a frozen field “survival in that would be a bee-atch.”
Good video, just a building a crib with a fire, that will get you through the night, well done. Just boil the water, that is enough, you do not need that fancy equipment.
I’ve been backpacking since my first trip out in 1982. Sure there’s a buhzillion hacks that help preserve life. But only just. Anything less than an RV with water and propane topped off will yield a miserable, sleepless night. That’s why people don’t go out in December through March. I’m amazed that skiers and snowboarders don’t ride with basic survival supplies.🥶
Only the boughs, well stacked in opposite directions (horizontal and vertical) to create more of an air pocket. In the video we posted this week (th-cam.com/video/cjt9SX2EXVw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wlLztPNNK_PihW9C), Jason does use large branches as a base for his sleeping bag.
Imagine in this situation having also had a quality wool blanket and tarp? It wouldn't be a toasty warm sleeping bag, but levels better. If you have the experience and knowledge, even a few key items is all you need to get by and do it semi-comfortably.
As a matter of fact, our next video covers that with a different scenario - you return to a vehicle to find it dead and have no cell service but do have some additional gear to work with. That video will be posted on 11/12.
All great advice in your video, people saying about a tarp... obviously this is if you dont have a tarp. But not a great idea to sleep under a fallen tree that's stuck up, the top could be rotten. Using a fallen tree thats actually on the ground would be safer and the lower your roof is, the warmer it will be inside. Btw I have lived in the woods 😊
One big mistake - you spent time and energy locating, cutting, relocating and setting up a wind, rain and snow penetrable shelter when all you needed to bring along was a tarp to reduce the construction of the shelter.
If you are doing an activity where you aren’t planning to sleep out, it’s not likely you’d be lugging a heavy tarp, or even a backpack for that matter. You don’t carry a backpack for a six-mile afternoon hike, for instance.
@@eatwhatukiii2532 whenever I head into the woods I’m prepared for , at least, 24 hours. That’s not just for me but also for a possible casualty scenario.
winter with snow and ice, going to freeze tonight, and you're traveling light. Gut the deer on leaves and duff, put your feet in the gut pile and your head and torso as far as you can into the cavity and still breath.
👍👍👍 .. a good post, well structured with plenty useful information. I was with you all the way until you started on your 'shelter'. In this day and age, there is absolutely no reason why one cannot have a Tarp / Poncho / Similar on hand for 'just in case'. Sourcing and building an effective 'top cover' from natural materials is extremely energy-intensive and very often, not possible due to, inter alia, weather, time constraints and availability of suitable material. I like the Bough Bed for the additional insulation it affords and if one could put one together, a Tarp and Closed Cell Foam Pad would complement it well. Why Foam Pad over an Inflatable Mattress? Punctures / Reliability. That said, once I had navigated past the natural shelter, I was back on board 😁. As an aside .. the natural shelter will not act to 'radiate' heat back at you. Physics will dictate that. 'If' thick and dense enough, it may slow down the movement of air up through it, this creating a warmer 'bubble' inside the shelter. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Very good point. We are covering different scenarios. In next week's video, Jason arrives to a dead car and has a bit more gear to work with - including a tarp. Along with that video, we'll share an article about the gear Jason always carries with him - and a tarp is definitely one of them.
Lets all critique the shyt out of someone whos out there doing it, offering a viewpoint and potential advice, because from your couch you know hes wrong...😂
Well. There are loads of people like the poster of the video. Just like him, they are not “out there” 24/7. So yeah. At the time of watching the video, they might be at home, on the couch.
@Gunther-mt2bk ooh, struck a sore spot eh? It wasn't directed at you, and you know the point I was making, your rebuttal is pointless, I'm watching from the couch too...
cotton ball covered in Vaseline and paraffin wax. Check out Jason's fire starting video where he shares multiple things he uses to start a fire: th-cam.com/video/dT4APZZ9i2k/w-d-xo.html
First you build a shelter for your fire because it can snow any moment. While the fire is going and secured you can set fire on the ground where you want to make your bed and throw some rocks in the fire ,those burned rocks you can use under your bed as insulation and can hold heat for a long time.
I have a 9×12 nylon tarp and some high quality mylar blankets that are in the bottom of my hunting pack for this very reason. I shot a mule deer close to dark 4 miles back in the mountains several years ago and had to spend the night hugging a fire to stay warm 🥶 never again.
I don't understand why everyone loves the grayl. They are too expensive, they don't filter very much before needing to replace the filter and if you need more than a bottle of water they are not practical for filling other containers. Jmo
Any suggestions? Look at the bigger picture, in a bigger picture, single grayl carrtrige takes 3 years-250/150-ish liters before exchange. Will you manage to be in the woods that often that single cartridge wont last You a year at least?
You have valid points, but they are very practical for someone on the move. You're not going to need much water for an overnight. If all you have is a Grayl, then just press multiple cups at one location and drink, drink, drink like a camel prior to leaving that location. I remember going on 9 mile morning RUNS in the Marines without a single drop of water until it was over. Guys would do even longer. The trick was pounding tons of water the night before. If you're trying to be light, water is heavy AF. You can only carry so much plus additional gear, especially in rough terrain. With the titanium Grayl, you can continue to boil water if the filter goes down.
It’s true they are expensive and only hold a relatively limited amount of water but they do have other advantages which shouldn’t be overlooked. Being compact and self contained is a plus, no need for tubing or separate water bottles and the titanium version gives you the option of boiling water if the filter breaks. For me the main benefit is they filter viruses which most other filters eg Sawyer squeeze do not and whilst you may be in pristine environments largely virus free you can’t always count on it. If you travel abroad in Africa or India for example viral contamination would be a big issue. However, there may be risks closer to home; if you look at the flooding in Southern Spain or after Hurricane Helene for example the water sources could be contaminated with sewage from septic tanks or ruptured drains. With vehicles and industrial areas affected you may also expect heavy metal and chemical contamination too which I believe the Grayl will also filter. Having been very ill many years ago travelling in Africa I don’t risk it now but do your research, check the Iikely contaminants in the area you will be using it in and get a filter that provides the right protection. Water-to-go is a company that provides a similar level of purification but at a lower cost (no affiliation in case it sounds like a sales pitch) which might be useful to you?
I’d love to see all these emergency survival shelter videos show other ways to make fire, because many people caught out in a situation like this aren’t expecting it so aren’t carrying a ferorod or lighter. If you don’t have one, or lost it, THEN WHAT? Fire starting is a lifesaving skill that got us through hundreds of thousands of years of primitive living, yet most modern humans have no clue how to do it.
Old man 76 years in woods my clothing in 90 percent oh my shelter I simply drink wild stream water only boil if make I m making hot beverages I use natural shelters with simple leaf bed shelter if any could be made in twenty minutes I don't depend on a fire for warmth I often camp without fire no bigger than needed to make hot beverages 😮
You came prepared. Why didn't you bring a tarp to reduce your construction time and energy? The majority of fabric clothing allows the wind to penetrate it. Even fleece is easily penetrated by the wind and cold wind, a good reason for buying coated fabrics preventing wind penetration but still breathable for elimination of sweat. Hold your shirt and pants up to the light. If you see light penetrating the fabric then you're wearing the wrong clothing for cool and cold windy weather.
Nice video and a new subscriber.👍 Your channel just came up in my feeds. Some of the comments from the survival expert trolls are so funny! 😂 Silly gripes and 💩 from so-called 💩 “experts” that boast their self-grandeur, perfection, and regurgitate 💩 cliche soundbites from behind a keyboard while fondling their Tom Brown Tracker and all dressed up in surplus camo! 😂😂😂!
Boy oh boy when he said “unprepared” he wasn’t kidding. I go to Walmart for a midweek grocery shop better equipped 😂😂(we live at roughly the same latitude as upstate New York) Nonetheless it’s a sincere effort
hahah...we are covering the worst case in this video, but Jason always has essentials with him. We'll be posting an article at www.unionsportsmen.org soon that covers Jason's recommended essential gear.
The Grayl Titanium filter runs about $200, so not cheap. There are plenty of other options out there, so you just have to assess the pros and cons and determine your budget.
The information was sound. The word salad you used in your presentation was not. Sometimes, when people try to sound educated they throw in educated words and phrases that are inappropriate or unnecessary. This presentation was a good example of that. Work on it.
Would have liked to have seen you stay overnight. It's one thing talking about You should have proved it ...personally small tarp, lighter, army blanket, light to carry ,alot of work building that shelter...gathering all that wood and material...small tarp could carry in back pack...
I don’t get it??!!!! Hey gear that ultralight and enable you to build your shelter faster without the caveman Tarzan routine. Large Mylar blankets like S.O.L. Can fit in your bag or pack. A small tarp in helping set up a shelter!!! Why does everyone want to play Tarzan in the woods. Is this a true survival scenario or just showing off. Because if it’s a scenario then, why not carry equipment necessary for the environment, temperatures, bedding. You guys do not tell the public you scout out areas to make your videos and not of realistic scenarios. When there is no bedding materials or additional wood to create a lean-to. The TH-cam channels is full of people playing Tarzan. So on a day Hike carry gear appropriate to the weather and second you carry a Grayl filter that can clog in an instant. You guys still won’t tell people where you source your water. Because if it’s full of TANIS or Turbidity that filter will clog and become faulty. You guys are set on that filter for filtering survival. When the risk is very high for failure 😨. That’s not survival it’s a scenario a… WHAT IF. SEMPER FI
Unfortunately, people do this all the time (as the scenario plays), they go out for a “nice” winter walk in the woods or chasing the dogs or tracking the blood trail of their game animal they just shot…they only took some water and snacks with no contemplating the “Oops, Oh shit” situations that can happen to them in the absolute worst way and time. Always, always, always take the minimum gear to make your accidental extended stay in the outdoors a little easier and a lot less stressful.
@@UnionSportsmen Your in the winter months so dealing with most filters and cold water can be done with a hand pump like Katadyn. Since the water is colder it will filter out more. Katadyn makes a carbon element that be attached. If the water source “IS A FRESHWATER SOURCE” then that’s all you need the cartridge can withstand thawing better than a Grayl. Along with some titanium gear you can boil water if necessary, but only if it’s a fresh water source!!! Grayls do not filter out pollutants ONLY MINUTE amounts of pollutants( meaning very very small). If the water Carries larger amounts then you could poison yourself. That’s why people won’t tell where they source their water from… when filtering and then the cut the camera not showing the full process when drinking making people think it’s ok to use that filter on anything. Soooo the question is do you want your viewers to die out in the field or teach them right. In the beginning (all you survivalist guys stressed carrying) going back some 9 years, to carry EDC type gear. Now it’s as if it never existed. If weight is an issue like, it is with all of them, then replace the EDC with gear that actually works and not some idiots opinionated version. Right now S.O.L., and Titan pretty much make the thickest Mylar emergency blankets. But large enough to make shelters to if need be. That covers 90% of the task at making a shelter to block wind, 💨 trap body heat etc.. Emergency bivouac tents are really no good in cold temperatures. But if cut in half they make a fine lean-to. You say you want to trap heat when the fire is made. There is less loss of convection than a self made lean-to. If high winds then you can place wood over the Mylar or wrap the mylar around the wood to keep it in place. That’s your scenario simplified. Less worry and more focus on bedding and fire 🔥!!!! The ideal in which you presented is survive the night. The next day is another adventure. This is gear you can fit in your day hike pack or cargo pockets. SINCE DAVE CANTERBURY has you guys thinking everything is military and not civilian when it’s been proven he’s not military period! Military people will not allow you to be placed in harms way. They will teach them the consequences and to think in civilian terms. That’s from a real military perspective... SEMPER FI
Ehhhh.... do it for a living...? The shelter was something I wouldn't do or recommend to a newcomer to the outdoors. I'm sure I'll get heat from the folks that don't know anything about the outdoors.
I keep a couple of dollar store shower curtains in my pack for improvised shelter or warmth. Keep a bic lighter in your pocket during the winter.
Here in Maine you can EASILY get turned around and lose track of direction at night and especially on cloudy overcast days. Moss grows on all sides of a tree so that cannot be used to orient, and compasses don’t always work. I’ve been out exploring with experienced hunters who knew the area well and we still got “lost”. If you can hunker down for the night it’s much safer than risking tramping around the tangle of undergrowth and uneven footing of boulders and ravines.
Absolutely. People often get into trouble by continuing when they should stay put.
I live in ME and I carry at least a ferro rod & a knife any time I go in the woods. Night time is no time to navigate.
@@BigMarv55 yes, totally agree, except when it was originally just a 2 hour leisurely hike in your own neighborhood and you need to be at work to open by 7AM. 🔑😜
@ true, this more applies for people who are hunting/trapping
One thing that could use more discussion is when to decide to set up camp. Realistically, a lot of people would continue to walk around trying to get un-lost until it got dark or it set in that they were hopelessly lost.
Good advice, and you're right. That's what often gets folks into more trouble.
He accompanied alot for late in the afternoon. Most would “push on hoping to extract themselves.
2 wise tools to pack- knife and ferro rod (or lighter)
Excellent advice regarding pacing yourself to help regulate your core temperature.
I survived a freezing night in the sierra Nevada mountain range,
2’ of snow…. when I was eight years old with nothing.
Again… when I was 14.
Wind river range ,Wyoming.
2 foot snowstorm.
Stayed in my sleeping bag for three days. Tarp lean-to and small burner to heat food and hot chocolate.
hiked 50 miles into the wilderness using topo map and compass.
We returned to the car a month later.
Holy smokes! I bet you have some stories to tell from those experiences.
When you mentioned the wind coming through the bottom of the valley, it is a good point. I immediately thought of how the cold settles to the low spots. It will be warmer up on the hill side.
He’s on a plane just lower from the crest of the hill
Don’t mind the critics, this was a good video and you clearly stated the purpose right at the beginning. It seems that lots of guys get upset if someone doesn’t do something their way.
Thank you for this video. It looks like you found an excellent spot to create your shelter. The level of time and effort required to create that shelter out of found, natural materials tells me that a 7' X 9' (2.13 m X 2.75 m) heavy-duty, reflective tarp and an insulated mattress (closed-cell foam or air) of some sort are worth their weight in gold.
In addition to my regular fire kit, I always carry two, 30-minute road flares, for that moment when I must absolutely, positively start a fire.
I like the bough bed.
👍👍👍 .. my thoughts too regarding the Tarp and a Closed Cell Foam Pad.
Absolutely, we'd agree that being properly prepared and taking the right equipment with you is the best strategy every time!
"I'd rather have it and not need it; than need it and not have it."
I was looking at the same downed tree you chose to build your shelter around. It's nice to know I had that part right. Finding high ground that's below the top of the hill is a great idea, and something that may not have occurred to me. I know you want to stay away from that bottomland which could freeze and fill with fog, sucking the life out of you. And I know the top of the hill will be windy, and even if you're on the windy side of the hill, it won't be as bad if you aren't in the open at the top. But I wasn't thinking much about it. And I didn't know about building a crib to keep the boughs from shifting around and falling out. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. A couple candy bars or something to eat and I'd be happy spending the night out there. That's 10000% better than sleeping in a pup tent at -17 degrees, with no heat, like I did in basic training. It seemed like they were going to kill us that night, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And gives you nightmares. 😉
Yep, -17 in a pup tent doesn't make for a fun night.
@@UnionSportsmen I didn't sleep all night either. Whenever I started to doze off I had a full-body shiver that shook me right down to my core. I've never had shivers like that before or since, even when my extremities were going numb. The only break I got from freezing in my sleeping bag was pulling guard duty. Then I sat in a foxhole with a machine gun and was even colder. it's nights like that that make you wish you were in an igloo with a small candle for heat. Maybe the worst part was knowing that the women were all in a tent with a coal burning stove at each end while I was freezing my nuts off. It was probably too hot in there. They may say they want equality... until they get uncomfortable. Then they want heat, and cots to sleep on, instead of air mattresses on the bare ground. I swear the army could give you PTSD before you even got out of basic training.
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. Always stay safe out there.
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Thank you for this video! You did a great job demonstrating and explaining what to do if you are unprepared for camping and have to survive.
Excellent points and I can clearly see the amount of work that went into showing us this. As your video states, “how to survive” is different to me than a how to plan and then go camp in a freezing situation. When you find yourself in a situation unplanned, these tips are invaluable. Subscribed.
Very good point. Jason is ALWAYS prepared, but we realize that many people are not...so it's wise to know what to do if you don't have gear.
Appreciate the Helpful tips, keep them coming, have a nice week
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Thank you for this excellent teaching video--I hope over time it may save some of your viewers lives. Barton
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Very fun to watch. Very informative. Glad I found your channel.
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My thinking would be if you’re going out in this kind of weather for a hike or a hunt and even a possible chance you might spend the night, I personally would have brought water, a small tent or tarp and or blanket. Definitely wouldn’t kneel on snow either.
One thing I learned is, when you think you have enough firewood. Double or triple it! I like big fires so I use a lot.
Couple other things I would do differently than you did, but I’m not going to criticize.
First time I've heard the term "military crest". Explain please. Great video.
Military crest of a hill...just below the top so you don't make an outline walking on the hill top. Good for a wind break too.
@@brandyhouston2105Now I know! Thanks for replying.
It's the special flavored toothpaste you use when on military missions .
I see a lot of criticism but the scenario is that you are not really prepared but have to spend the night out in cold, wet conditions. Thanks for the video. I think it would still be a miserable night, but you'd probably survive. I might cut off a sleeve of my t shirt and wear it on my head for a little warmth in that scenario.
Good idea. You lose a lot of heat from your head.
Another method of keeping warm is building a fire and then using the fire pit for your bed and of course covering it with bows and then laying on top of them
That's a good idea
My day pack always has a few things that I need to camp overnight, even in bad conditions or longer if needed. I have survival training, but if you have to survive vs. hasty camp, it sucks. For instance, ferro rod. Yes, but I also carry 3 lighters and matches that weigh nothing and take little room. However, I can confirm that even so-called experienced hikers don't consider beyond snacks and water.
Dont forget to put your grayl near the fire, otherwise it will freeze and your filter will not serve anything. Water filters in winter are useless unless you take extreme care of it. Good video for outdoor enthusiasts who find themselves stuck in the woods with little equipment. Here in Quebec, the cold kills every few years of people who go to the forest with their expensive trousers and boots coats and which brings little or no strict minimum equipment to survive the unexpected...
Good advice about the Grayl.
Good information for sure! Thanks, enjoyed your video!!!🇺🇸👍
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Great video! Thanks for this USA
I have taken 3 classes at hoboforge survival Jason knows his SH#& ,
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Wise to build a wood base under the fire- saved my butt when a canoe overturned on a river- helped to dry 2 people out and a great morale booster… had lunch right then
I was surprised he didn't mention that cold air settles in the low areas, another reason not to set up in a valley area.
That's very true. He actually does mention that...not initially when he is leaving the low area but at 6:18 when he recaps why he picks a spot below the crest of the hill but above the stream area.
@UnionSportsmen ahh, that he does. My comment was premature then, ty👍✌️
@@majordave4789 hahahah...well, thanks for watching!
enjoyed the video!
16:14 I would encourage all newcomers to pause the optics right here. THIS is why I never move more than a football field away from my well equipped vehicle, especially on a four season trek, without 2-3 jumbo size contractors bags. Preferably 4mil but 3 mil folds down better. They ride nicely, one in each cargo pocket, and the third in a jacket pocket or lumbar game pocket. It’s understandable why we wouldn’t necessarily have the perfect ultralight tarp on hand but keeping a roll of contractors bags in a vehicle has basically no downside. Even a 5mph breeze will cut through those gaps like a frozen blade. I’d guesstimate that 99% of the bush shelters we see on youtube will provide for a night of the briefest cat naps with the main focus being keeping the fire fed and moving frozen appendages back toward the heat. While trying not to think “hey I’m kinda sitting in a huge tinder bundle!” It’s the insomnia that works with lack of calories, low level anxiety and a caffeine withdrawal head pounder, to make for a pretty tough situation come day two or three. Definitely not the best mindset for trying to futz with traps, snares, twisting up primitive cordage or making ersatz fishing tackle. I lived in Erie, Pennsylvania through the winter of 2017-18 and thought about it every time I looked out the window across a frozen field “survival in that would be a bee-atch.”
Would one of those silver thin emergency blankets work in this kind of situation?
Jason actually uses one of those in our next video, which is a slightly different scenario. (will be posted on 11/19)
Good video, just a building a crib with a fire, that will get you through the night, well done. Just boil the water, that is enough, you do not need that fancy equipment.
Right on brother. Thanks for sharing 🎉🎉
Good video bro!!
Thanks. Hope to do some filming next season. I like your Vancouver Island videos.
I’ve been backpacking since my first trip out in 1982. Sure there’s a buhzillion hacks that help preserve life. But only just. Anything less than an RV with water and propane topped off will yield a miserable, sleepless night. That’s why people don’t go out in December through March. I’m amazed that skiers and snowboarders don’t ride with basic survival supplies.🥶
Being resourceful, use your belt to make a larger bundle more manageable- it makes your resource trips more efficient
Nice tip!
Bravo!
And, Upstate NY is a VERY big place.
When you made the crib, did you have large branches on the bottom, or only the boughs on the ground to lay on?
Only the boughs, well stacked in opposite directions (horizontal and vertical) to create more of an air pocket. In the video we posted this week (th-cam.com/video/cjt9SX2EXVw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wlLztPNNK_PihW9C), Jason does use large branches as a base for his sleeping bag.
groves of spruce trees often make excellent places to shelter, with much less work.
Good explanation thanks
Most practical no BS video. Straight to the point AND
realistic scenario that many of us have found ourselves more than once.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Imagine in this situation having also had a quality wool blanket and tarp? It wouldn't be a toasty warm sleeping bag, but levels better.
If you have the experience and knowledge, even a few key items is all you need to get by and do it semi-comfortably.
As a matter of fact, our next video covers that with a different scenario - you return to a vehicle to find it dead and have no cell service but do have some additional gear to work with. That video will be posted on 11/12.
All great advice in your video, people saying about a tarp... obviously this is if you dont have a tarp. But not a great idea to sleep under a fallen tree that's stuck up, the top could be rotten. Using a fallen tree thats actually on the ground would be safer and the lower your roof is, the warmer it will be inside.
Btw I have lived in the woods 😊
That's good advice!
Thanks for the video.
One big mistake - you spent time and energy locating, cutting, relocating and setting up a wind, rain and snow penetrable shelter when all you needed to bring along was a tarp to reduce the construction of the shelter.
Very valid point.
He just wanted to make a video calm down go featherstick your arm
If you are doing an activity where you aren’t planning to sleep out, it’s not likely you’d be lugging a heavy tarp, or even a backpack for that matter. You don’t carry a backpack for a six-mile afternoon hike, for instance.
@@eatwhatukiii2532 whenever I head into the woods I’m prepared for , at least, 24 hours. That’s not just for me but also for a possible casualty scenario.
@@eatwhatukiii2532always carry a tarp or at least a space blanket for shelter
How do you deal with wind changing direction and figuring bed out?
winter with snow and ice, going to freeze tonight, and you're traveling light. Gut the deer on leaves and duff, put your feet in the gut pile and your head and torso as far as you can into
the cavity and still breath.
Thanks for Sharing
You bet!
👍👍👍 .. a good post, well structured with plenty useful information.
I was with you all the way until you started on your 'shelter'. In this day and age, there is absolutely no reason why one cannot have a Tarp / Poncho / Similar on hand for 'just in case'. Sourcing and building an effective 'top cover' from natural materials is extremely energy-intensive and very often, not possible due to, inter alia, weather, time constraints and availability of suitable material.
I like the Bough Bed for the additional insulation it affords and if one could put one together, a Tarp and Closed Cell Foam Pad would complement it well. Why Foam Pad over an Inflatable Mattress? Punctures / Reliability.
That said, once I had navigated past the natural shelter, I was back on board 😁.
As an aside .. the natural shelter will not act to 'radiate' heat back at you. Physics will dictate that. 'If' thick and dense enough, it may slow down the movement of air up through it, this creating a warmer 'bubble' inside the shelter.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Very good point. We are covering different scenarios. In next week's video, Jason arrives to a dead car and has a bit more gear to work with - including a tarp. Along with that video, we'll share an article about the gear Jason always carries with him - and a tarp is definitely one of them.
Wow! Snow in Up state New York already? 🤔
We filmed this in January. Good observation.
Well done! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Lets all critique the shyt out of someone whos out there doing it, offering a viewpoint and potential advice, because from your couch you know hes wrong...😂
Preach!
Well. There are loads of people like the poster of the video.
Just like him, they are not “out there” 24/7.
So yeah. At the time of watching the video, they might be at home, on the couch.
@Gunther-mt2bk ooh, struck a sore spot eh? It wasn't directed at you, and you know the point I was making, your rebuttal is pointless, I'm watching from the couch too...
@ no more than the sore spot that got you mouthing off…….
@Gunther-mt2bk I will always back someone productive, and that's hardly mouthing off,
Lot of good tips and advice. Biggest takeaway tho, bring a damn tarp lol
We are covering the worst case, but yes, a tarp would definitely be wise. LOL.
How did you keep that Grail filter from freezing?
What white think did you strike your flint spark into to make fire?
cotton ball covered in Vaseline and paraffin wax. Check out Jason's fire starting video where he shares multiple things he uses to start a fire: th-cam.com/video/dT4APZZ9i2k/w-d-xo.html
Video was good but if I never have to hear the words Hemlock bow again it’ll be too soon.
First you build a shelter for your fire because it can snow any moment. While the fire is going and secured you can set fire on the ground where you want to make your bed and throw some rocks in the fire ,those burned rocks you can use under your bed as insulation and can hold heat for a long time.
Union 716 baby!
I have a 9×12 nylon tarp and some high quality mylar blankets that are in the bottom of my hunting pack for this very reason. I shot a mule deer close to dark 4 miles back in the mountains several years ago and had to spend the night hugging a fire to stay warm 🥶 never again.
how long did that small amount of small wood actually last when you were filming?
I don't understand why everyone loves the grayl. They are too expensive, they don't filter very much before needing to replace the filter and if you need more than a bottle of water they are not practical for filling other containers. Jmo
We appreciate your insight. Is there a filter you prefer?
Any suggestions? Look at the bigger picture, in a bigger picture, single grayl carrtrige takes 3 years-250/150-ish liters before exchange. Will you manage to be in the woods that often that single cartridge wont last You a year at least?
@@patrykogorek7951 That's a good point.
You have valid points, but they are very practical for someone on the move. You're not going to need much water for an overnight. If all you have is a Grayl, then just press multiple cups at one location and drink, drink, drink like a camel prior to leaving that location.
I remember going on 9 mile morning RUNS in the Marines without a single drop of water until it was over. Guys would do even longer.
The trick was pounding tons of water the night before.
If you're trying to be light, water is heavy AF. You can only carry so much plus additional gear, especially in rough terrain.
With the titanium Grayl, you can continue to boil water if the filter goes down.
It’s true they are expensive and only hold a relatively limited amount of water but they do have other advantages which shouldn’t be overlooked. Being compact and self contained is a plus, no need for tubing or separate water bottles and the titanium version gives you the option of boiling water if the filter breaks. For me the main benefit is they filter viruses which most other filters eg Sawyer squeeze do not and whilst you may be in pristine environments largely virus free you can’t always count on it. If you travel abroad in Africa or India for example viral contamination would be a big issue. However, there may be risks closer to home; if you look at the flooding in Southern Spain or after Hurricane Helene for example the water sources could be contaminated with sewage from septic tanks or ruptured drains. With vehicles and industrial areas affected you may also expect heavy metal and chemical contamination too which I believe the Grayl will also filter. Having been very ill many years ago travelling in Africa I don’t risk it now but do your research, check the Iikely contaminants in the area you will be using it in and get a filter that provides the right protection. Water-to-go is a company that provides a similar level of purification but at a lower cost (no affiliation in case it sounds like a sales pitch) which might be useful to you?
I’d love to see all these emergency survival shelter videos show other ways to make fire, because many people caught out in a situation like this aren’t expecting it so aren’t carrying a ferorod or lighter. If you don’t have one, or lost it, THEN WHAT? Fire starting is a lifesaving skill that got us through hundreds of thousands of years of primitive living, yet most modern humans have no clue how to do it.
Check out Jason's fire starting video where he covers 5 different methods: th-cam.com/video/dT4APZZ9i2k/w-d-xo.html
Nice !!! Great video 👍
Flowing water. It ain’t cold. I don’t consider it cold unless it’s -20C (-4F).
-4F is child's play... -5F is cold
Surviving the bureaucracy and over-regulation in NY is far more difficult than surviving the cold.
Thank you for a great video. Keep up the good work. God bless.
To keep a fire going all night, get 4x as much wood as you think you need!
Absolutely!
This video is with out anything guys teaching u how to 😊
Melt snow for water
Rocks , not close to the river would be great to keep the shelter warm…. Given time, of course
Great advice
Tinder fungus also
It's hard to press the grayl. Probably hard to do it on a boat or kayak
Do you have a filter you prefer to use?
Nitap!
Old man 76 years in woods my clothing in 90 percent oh my shelter I simply drink wild stream water only boil if make I m making hot beverages I use natural shelters with simple leaf bed shelter if any could be made in twenty minutes I don't depend on a fire for warmth I often camp without fire no bigger than needed to make hot beverages 😮
Poncho and space blanket. Not much space and quick shelter.
Surely it would be better to take a shelter and insulation with you. Finding enough dry wood and tinder is highly dependent on luck.
You came prepared. Why didn't you bring a tarp to reduce your construction time and energy? The majority of fabric clothing allows the wind to penetrate it. Even fleece is easily penetrated by the wind and cold wind, a good reason for buying coated fabrics preventing wind penetration but still breathable for elimination of sweat. Hold your shirt and pants up to the light. If you see light penetrating the fabric then you're wearing the wrong clothing for cool and cold windy weather.
Did you die that night ?????????????/
Sure didn't :)
Great video. Very similar how we do it in Alaska where I live
Thanks for watching!
Nice video and a new subscriber.👍 Your channel just came up in my feeds.
Some of the comments from the survival expert trolls are so funny! 😂 Silly gripes and 💩 from so-called 💩 “experts” that boast their self-grandeur, perfection, and regurgitate 💩 cliche soundbites from behind a keyboard while fondling their Tom Brown Tracker and all dressed up in surplus camo! 😂😂😂!
Thanks for the laugh. LOL
Boy oh boy when he said “unprepared” he wasn’t kidding. I go to Walmart for a midweek grocery shop better equipped 😂😂(we live at roughly the same latitude as upstate New York) Nonetheless it’s a sincere effort
hahah...we are covering the worst case in this video, but Jason always has essentials with him. We'll be posting an article at www.unionsportsmen.org soon that covers Jason's recommended essential gear.
Sure wish he said how long it took to build his shelter
A lot of sound advice in this video, from foraging extra supplies as you work to sheltering.
How much are those titsnium water bottle filtrs?
The Grayl Titanium filter runs about $200, so not cheap. There are plenty of other options out there, so you just have to assess the pros and cons and determine your budget.
Good basic information but we have to remember that this is staged not the same as a real scenario
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Id have built a fire before building a shelter
"longitudical"😂
You got get warm 🥵🥵🥵🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The information was sound. The word salad you used in your presentation was not. Sometimes, when people try to sound educated they throw in educated words and phrases that are inappropriate or unnecessary. This presentation was a good example of that. Work on it.
Would have liked to have seen you stay overnight. It's one thing talking about You should have proved it ...personally small tarp, lighter, army blanket, light to carry ,alot of work building that shelter...gathering all that wood and material...small tarp could carry in back pack...
Very true. Our next video (will be posted 11/29) is a slightly different scenario, and Jason does use a tarp.
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I don’t get it??!!!! Hey gear that ultralight and enable you to build your shelter faster without the caveman Tarzan routine. Large Mylar blankets like S.O.L. Can fit in your bag or pack. A small tarp in helping set up a shelter!!! Why does everyone want to play Tarzan in the woods. Is this a true survival scenario or just showing off. Because if it’s a scenario then, why not carry equipment necessary for the environment, temperatures, bedding. You guys do not tell the public you scout out areas to make your videos and not of realistic scenarios. When there is no bedding materials or additional wood to create a lean-to. The TH-cam channels is full of people playing Tarzan. So on a day Hike carry gear appropriate to the weather and second you carry a Grayl filter that can clog in an instant. You guys still won’t tell people where you source your water. Because if it’s full of TANIS or Turbidity that filter will clog and become faulty. You guys are set on that filter for filtering survival. When the risk is very high for failure 😨. That’s not survival it’s a scenario a… WHAT IF.
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Thanks for your input. What do you prefer for water filtration?
Unfortunately, people do this all the time (as the scenario plays), they go out for a “nice” winter walk in the woods or chasing the dogs or tracking the blood trail of their game animal they just shot…they only took some water and snacks with no contemplating the “Oops, Oh shit” situations that can happen to them in the absolute worst way and time. Always, always, always take the minimum gear to make your accidental extended stay in the outdoors a little easier and a lot less stressful.
@@UnionSportsmen Your in the winter months so dealing with most filters and cold water can be done with a hand pump like Katadyn. Since the water is colder it will filter out more. Katadyn makes a carbon element that be attached. If the water source “IS A FRESHWATER SOURCE” then that’s all you need the cartridge can withstand thawing better than a Grayl. Along with some titanium gear you can boil water if necessary, but only if it’s a fresh water source!!! Grayls do not filter out pollutants ONLY MINUTE amounts of pollutants( meaning very very small). If the water Carries larger amounts then you could poison yourself. That’s why people won’t tell where they source their water from… when filtering and then the cut the camera not showing the full process when drinking making people think it’s ok to use that filter on anything. Soooo the question is do you want your viewers to die out in the field or teach them right. In the beginning (all you survivalist guys stressed carrying) going back some 9 years, to carry EDC type gear. Now it’s as if it never existed. If weight is an issue like, it is with all of them, then replace the EDC with gear that actually works and not some idiots opinionated version. Right now S.O.L., and Titan pretty much make the thickest Mylar emergency blankets. But large enough to make shelters to if need be. That covers 90% of the task at making a shelter to block wind, 💨 trap body heat etc.. Emergency bivouac tents are really no good in cold temperatures. But if cut in half they make a fine lean-to. You say you want to trap heat when the fire is made. There is less loss of convection than a self made lean-to. If high winds then you can place wood over the Mylar or wrap the mylar around the wood to keep it in place. That’s your scenario simplified. Less worry and more focus on bedding and fire 🔥!!!! The ideal in which you presented is survive the night. The next day is another adventure. This is gear you can fit in your day hike pack or cargo pockets. SINCE DAVE CANTERBURY has you guys thinking everything is military and not civilian when it’s been proven he’s not military period! Military people will not allow you to be placed in harms way. They will teach them the consequences and to think in civilian terms. That’s from a real military perspective...
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@@HotZone97 yeppers 🙊 oops for to pack the tooth brush 🥹😅😂🤣😝😜🤪🤓. Love what you said.
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Too much time and work. Just carry a gortex bivey and a poncho.
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Ehhhh.... do it for a living...? The shelter was something I wouldn't do or recommend to a newcomer to the outdoors. I'm sure I'll get heat from the folks that don't know anything about the outdoors.
Practice camping without a fire or carrying water it will make you a much better woodsman if you make it 65 years like then you can teach the old ways
@@fredflintstone6163 ehhhh....? Okay.?