I've had a fully loaded 23 Pro4x for 10 months now and it has been great. Love it. Very solid, decent mileage, and great off road. Nissan hit a HR with this one.
@@joemarchand8313 I was able to get mine for a few thousand below MSRP in early July, only certain larger dealers could offer that price tho, i brought an offer for that price from a dealer farther away to my local dealer and they said they couldn't do it.
Prove it. I live in Wyoming and drive at elevation a lot. I had a Taco 2014 TRD off road. Sold it and got the new Ranger. I am at 40K miles with zero issues. And it is SO MUCH BETTER at altitude. I had 2 warranty reparis on my taco first 36K miles. Ranger 0. I will never EVER go back to NA engine.
My first car was a 2000 Nissan frontier 5 speed manual with a 115k miles on it. Drove that thing until her last leg from 2009-2017. Loved that truck and now I might get the new one as an adult
I have a '23 Pro4x and love the steering feel. Coming from a sports car with tight, stiff steering, I'm used to that responsiveness. Going down the road, it's effortless to drive and only comes into play when doing u-turns or tight 90 degree turns into parking spaces. It just feels like a beefy truck and love that about it.
I love that you can still get a V-6. Everything else is a turbo 4 which are good engines but I do think if the engine doesn’t have to work as hard it will last longer.
If anyone is going to properly do a reliable turbo engine it’s gonna be Toyota. These aren’t bolt on turbos these are ground up turbo designed engines. The 2023 V6 Tacoma had 265ftlbs of torque. The new one will have 465ftlbs. That’s a significant difference.
here is the result from TFL towing up the "Ike"... Colorado 4cyl turbo / Frontier 6cyl na box trailer weight # 6800 / 6700 payload max / max squat inches 2.5 / 2.0 speed mph 60 / 60 time minutes 7.5 / 7.9 max throttle foot to floor yes / yes fuel consumed mpg 3.6 / 4.4 engine rpm 5400 / 6000 engine rpm per cylinder 1350 / 1000 conclusion for towing equal weights and speed: Colorado turbo works 35% harder, turbo consumes 22% more fuel suspension squats 25% more Nissan is the superior truck
The more I see all the new versions of midsized trucks, the more I like the Frontier. Simple is good. I personally do not like the larger and larger touch screens. I just saw a review on a 2024 Ford Ranger. Ugh. It’s a 14” screen I think. I like the 2023 Ranger better. Right now, when I replace my 2003 Silverado, I might go Frontier, or maybe the Honda Ridgeline Trailsport. Bot have NA V-6 engines. I’m old school, and I like the simplicity.
Spot on review. This is a truck from a bygone era, simple, effective, rides nicely, and is (relatively speaking) affordable, the pro4x which is really the only version to buy doesn't even come close to the MSRP of the TRDs, AT4X, Raptor (when it comes out), etc.. The only reason I didn't buy one is because there is no 4-auto, and the backseat is absolutely atrocious for space (as most mid-size trucks are). It was an outdated truck the minute they released it, but almost in a good way, its a nostalgic truck. No massive tablet, no tiny turbo engine that will probably need to be fixed after a very short time, just a nice truck all the way around. That being said i'd probably take the new Tacoma in a heart beat if i could justify spending that much, but there is something to be said for the simplicity of this truck.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you about the back seat, dude. I got lucky and found a loaded '23 PRO-4X a couple weeks ago, and in the color I was looking for, and I LOVE IT! It drives great, has plenty of power, and looks friggin' awesome. First of all, I don't haul around a bunch of adults in my back seat, so "room" is not really a big issue. We use the back seat for extra storage when my wife and I go on vacation for a couple weeks, or for just a weekend getaway. Bad decision on your part for not buying one. Plus, I would never buy any 4 cyl vehicle, especially a truck... turbo or otherwise. Bottom line? Toyotas are way more expensive than Nissans and offer absolutely nothing to consumers that can justify it. For my money, it is no contest...the Frontier is better equipped...better looking...performs off the road better...and are...wait for it... LESS EXPENSIVE!
The back seat area of the Tacoma is awful. I could not get my feet between the seats. Watching multiple videos on both the Tacoma and Frontier the Frontier appears to have more room. I hope to visit the Nissan dealer soon and see for myself. Terry
i still drive cars from the 90's... heavy steering is my preference. it let's you feel more connected to the vehicle imo. i've only just recently started kicking around the idea of buying a new vehicle, since the aforementioned 90's vehicles are starting to fall apart. i saw one of these frontier's in the wild and had to do another lap in the parking lot to get a look at it. they're a pretty good looking truck.
i started with this truck, for the one i was going to get... then i moved to GMC canyon.... then it was the chevy colorado trail boss. then back to GMC, then back to Chevy... and now im back do nissan... because its the only midsized truck that has a V6 anymore. except for i think the jeep. so here i am again. lol. also the 2024 version might have 385 lb of torque... thats nice.
tbh I love the steering , my 2007 nissan xterra had heavy steering and the 2017 ford 250 i drive at work steering feels the same , ive driven light steering vehicles and it feels annoying . I don't get tired of harder steering and feel better control with it
I was in the process of buying a 2020 Taco TRD OR & happened to see the New style frontier and after some research fell in love. Only had my 22 Pro 4x for a week but it's been so fun to drive. Smooth, comfortable, functional, and definitely one of the best looking trucks out right now. Bulletproof drivetrain, with a proven engine & Trans that was out 2yrs before the body change. Got my 22 fully loaded pro4x with 15k less miles for 3K cheaper than that 2020 taco off road with minimal upgrades. Resale hold up very well for frontiers too!!!
Awesome review and very accurate too! I recently purchased a 24 Frontier SV RWD with practically no options, didn't get the convenience or technology package, I didn't want any of it, instead I got the tow package and that's all I needed. I wanted an old fashion truck to do truck stuff. My in town mpg is 15-17 mpg, stop and go traffic kills the gas mileage but on the open road whether it be a rural highway or the interstate I get close to 25 mpg and occasionally close to 30mpg if I keep the speed down to 55mph.
I disagree, try driving the Tacoma for a long period of time on the highway is cumbersome the ergonomics of the seat is absolutely terrible. The 2024 year model will be much better yet price will be much more.
@@chrisx5127 exactly, they took the same frame from the older generation and added a naturally aspirated 3.8l with a transmission they pulled from the titan. the frontiers reliability ratings is excellent. just type is frontiers reliability rating in google. There is no substance to the comment.
Better than the Ranger? I do think so. The steering wheel isn’t even telescopic and the infotainment screen is the slowest of them all. This thing came out yesterday, and is already outdated
Have had my 2022 Pro 4X now for 2 years. Very happy with it. 2 things I don't like. The delay in acceleration, and no seals in the tailgate area letting dust into the bed. I love to drive dirt roads in the mountains, and this truck does the job.
i like heavy steering. i drove a friends suv the other day for a road trip and the steering was so light every input felt like i was veering out of the lane on the highway.
Do you drive in a larger city at all? I ask because I bought my 23 pro4x and live in a decent sized city averaging 16 and that's with auto start stop off because I hate it😅
I just purchased a 2022 Nissan frontier pro4x and could not be more pleased! Coming from a f150 plantnum. I preferred the frontier old school truck feel over the ford new tech thay no surprises there where all ways breaking this truck and hope is more reliable then the fancy ford !!
Reviews like this tell us nothing. 90% of Americans use their trucks as grocery getters. For them, a turbo can make sense; acceleration and mpg. I respect Toyota, but the seats are among the most uncomfortable for taller drivers. Nissan makes a truck for those who know and appreciate a real truck. There is no replacement for displacement. This becomes very apparent when loaded 1000# while towing 5000#: any and all advantages of turbos disappear. Hard to believe, but the Nissan 6cyl will achieve better mpg and handling than any 4cyl turbo when tow/haul for days on end. Driver fatigue is much less with the Nissan: great seats. When tow/haul daily, very doubtful any 4cyl turbo will last past 100k miles: but the Nissan will go +200k. "Ask me how I know all this and more.'"😊 For a real truck, better than the Frontier is the diesel-powered Navara; but sadly unavailable in USA.
yup they are like me... Im not really off roading or need max hauling or payload I just want a decent truck but I also like ones that LOOK nice... so im down to the Ridgeline(truckette??) which is OK but offers me everything I need and a LOT more space then a regular truck..or a "regular" truck and in those I have in the past had a Tacoma(first year redesign 1995) and a 1999 and 2007 Frontier... they were fine.. but as a daily commuter back and forth to work sucked because bad MPG.. Switched to SUV for a long time even a Dodge Charger R/T AWD for a while.. but now that im retired I think the bed would be useful, MPG has gotten acceptable.. so truck time again.. Of all the ones I looked at it came down to the Ridgeline and Pro4X Frontier either would do anything I want.. I like the looks of the Frontier though vs the Ridgeline
Give me some decent amenities but keep it more simple, I dont need 14" screens, Turbos, and tons of fancy software... I do like some tech I dont want to go back to 1999(my last Frontier) but I dont need everything to be electric or heated and cooled..seems like a bunch more to go wrong..Im actually looking at the Pro4X in a 23 or 24 because it had the V6...its simpler then the turbos and less to go wrong. I will like/take comfortable seats, still want my climate control(both sides), even heated seats, power windows, decent room and power, I dont need the one thats "the best or most" of everything and thats loaded with stuff i will never use or even want.. I think this new Frontier in the Pro4X just looks great and has what I need/want and isnt overkill. Its not a luxury car I dont need it optioned like one(GMC/Chevy looking at you here) just more stuff to go wrong 6K miles after your warranty is out..
I prefer it being basic. I need my truck to last 200k. And other than dealing with the direct injection it should be solid hopefully. When the new taco comes out I'm gonna be interested in the comparison.
@@faheemabbas3965they should have their D4S system in the new turbo Tacoma engines? I too am worried about the DI engine in the Frontier since it doesn’t have the extra set of injectors to clean the valves.
I used to drive my 2007 Tundra double cab with the 8' bed to Cambridge every day. It's a difficult place to park any size vehicle larger than a smart car. And those bike lanes...
PURE BULK!!! no thanks! I had a 1993 Nissan SEV6 King cab 4x4! the best Nissan truck ever made for the US market in that period..... wish they'd still make them like they used to.
we're never gonna get mini-trucks like we used to... big daddy EPA says no. i still own a 1995 ford ranger w/ manual tranny. awesome truck, was my grandad's old truck. i'll never get rid of it.
@@spyker_aileron Nice!! keep it, I have a 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 5 speed with the 22re and sits on 35's with 5:29 gearing and gets 22 mpg using PURE gasoline, no E10 crap.
I have a 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR. I love the truck but the seats are very uncomfortable. I can't drive around town without having bad back pain. How are the seats in the new Frontier?
I’ve I’m being completely honest, when I first drove a frontier the only thing I wasn’t a big fan of at first was the steering. Regardless, I still can’t wait to purchase a Pro 4x of my own
I have a Tacoma and very very disappointed that they went that 4 cylinder with the turbo I’m planning to change my truck next year and I am going to get the Frontier because still a truck and that’s what it matter ❤
When the refreshed frontier came out I was a little disappointed that it was just on par with the other trucks available at the time, and also worried it be way behind after all the other trucks were updated. I was expecting great things from Toyota, not that impressed at the moment. Chevy Colorado is a very nice truck and the new ranger looks very promising. I’m not worried about turbo’s but not a fan of unnecessary electronic complications. So I’m back looking at the frontier again. Nice review.
I have a 2014 Ram Laramie and I have a power rear sliding window. I have 2022 Nissan Frontier as well and it doesn't have it so its disappointing they dont have it
Difference between 2022 and 2023 Frontiers is the steering which was updated from hydraulic power steering to engine speed sensitive hydraulic power steering and at low speed turn I was pleasantly surprised I got none of that reviews of heavy steering.
Nissan Frontier Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed frame Dana 44 locking rear (pro 4X) Dana front diff, Spicer transfer case, powerful VQ engine, rear disc brakes, bullet proof made in the good ol' USA. Tacoma=33:1 crawl ratio, C frame (with on going frame recalls due to corrosion) rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax. To be honest all the new tech on the newer pick ups are failing miserably. Andre from TFL bought a Trail Boss and his LCD screen which is the tach and speedo just turned off. Sometimes less is more and I am willing to bet the new Tacoma's will be requiring premium fuel for that hybrid turbocharged 6 cylinder where the Frontier can take 87 all day. Less is more. To be honest this guy kind of comes off arrogant and prickly like he should be in a Raptor R because he just deserves it.
I have a 2006 frontier crew cab with a V6 4.0 litter engine. My older frontier is better than the new one. But the new frontier definitely looks much better though.
The Frontier's one of the most underrated trucks on the market. I was fortunate to acquire one of the last King Cab Pro4X's - a 2019 that I bought in COVID 2020 for about 30k brand new. I've never regretted getting the truck deal of a lifetime
Quotes entry level trucks price, shows a 45-48k truck in the review LOL. These midsized trucks are not worth 40k+ no matter what package they have. I looked at a 23 Pro 4x recently to move into a smaller truck, and I ended up keeping my F150. More truck, better power, better towing, bigger interior, same fuel consumption and it only costs a few grand more.
i love it. about the only big miss for me is the lack of an A pillar grab handle, as my old Fronty had. i used it all the time, even when just driving along, but especially off road technical driving. most people don't care, but it's a big one for a few.
I couldn't agree with you more!! when I do the Frontier 2025 when Trump wins rates will be cheaper. I'm going to my speed shop and have them install some kind of grab handle
If people are so concerned about fuel economy when it comes to pickup trucks, they should buy a bicycle and pull a little wagon behind themselves. I myself prefer a naturally aspirated engine and mechanical steering. Turbos and steer by wire are major problems looking for a place to happen.
Not outdated at all...quite innovative and the heavier steering is awesome when off-roading...this a direct competitor to the Tacoma and for anyone who has driven a Toyota can tell u..their transmissions are constantly gear hunting.. the nissan transmission is super smooth. Overall the Nissan better than Tacoma and offers more in cabin luxury items with a better and more software advanced infotainment unit...
The problem with Nissan is they are just heavily refreshing their vehicles. They aren’t all new. Great way to save money, but the complaints the reviewer mentioned are linked to that. Nissan and Toyota sat for many many many many years not doing much for their trucks.
Can someone please tell me if this truck is good in snow/hazardous weather conditions? I live in Northern Vt. and I need a reliable winter commuting vehicle.
I have this truck & the driver seat is awful because every time I exit the Truck I hit the reclining Bucket seat (Button) with my Thigh. All the vehicles I've ever own or driven has this never happen, why did they place the button so close to the seat is beyond me. Why did they make the button smaller or molded a lip over the button that when cost only pennies. You know how much in the pain in my A** to fix my seat each time I need to drive.
Solid truck. Solid video. However, only max payload was shared. That is not the payload on the optioned Pro4X. I bet the payload is 400 to 500 lbs LESS on this truck. I am fine sharing max payload, but share the payload on the tested truck as well. I am also a bit concerned about the safety/crash ratings of the Frontier compared to some other mid-size trucks. However, it will stay on my short-list. I am planning to buy at the end of 2024.
Safety ratings among midsized trucks, the frontier is leading the lot of them. They are now doing crash tests with rear occupants & they ALL fall a little short but the frontier still leads the pack here.
@@bradleyclapper8378 I am a Frontier fan; however, in terms of safety, I think the Ridgeline scores 5s in every category except rollover and it scores a 4. I don’t think any truck scores a 5 with the rollover.
I looked at the "new Frontier". Had a 2017 Frontier, loved it with one exception. The turning radius was horrible. The new Frontier was no better. Just as bad. That and the steering was heavy. I went with the Ford Ranger. I am not a turbo fan, liked the natural 6 the Frontier had, but the steering and turning radius on the Ranger was way better.
High tech in many newer pickups is not a benefit. Overtime the repair costs of those items will be excessive. I think it is the GM that you have to use the touch screen to turn on the lights....no thanks
If the pro4x came loaded for 40k (loaded in Nissan terms I mean) then it would make sense but decently loaded they are like 45ish which just makes no sense to buy when you can get the 2024 Tacoma for similar money. Only advantage is if you like the v6 over the turbo 4
@@sasquatchhunter86 my local Toyota dealer hasn’t had a markup on any vehicle during the last few years. Besides, we both know you can’t afford a house never mind a new Toyota.
@@celticsfaninthedesert4778 actually got a brand new 18 Tacoma 4 x4 at $33k before taxes and financing. Sold it for nearly what I bought it for ($31k) and got a Highlander for the family. Also got a house right before the c-19 housing craze. From $260 - $360K in under 4 years. Not that it has anything to do with Toyota dealers marking up prices.
The new Tacoma will be $50k plus is my guess. No clue how your fine spouting all your bullshi when Toyota hasn’t even given us a baseline price. I’ll bet the base Tacoma with bare minimum will cost more then a base pro4x. Come reply when mine ages quite well please.
I been hopping in between the Tacoma and the frontier. Toyota has done too much IMO with their design, and technology. A TC 4 cyl? Really? Might as well throw a Cadillac badging along with their TRD Pro that adds nothing but fancy badging and a cool color upgrade
Man I loved all my Nissans 1989,1993,2005. Fun trucks all around. we didn't need crawl control or that other stuff these new wave off road kids want need to go 4wheeling..... I wish they would put the cool roof racks back on them!! I'm buying one this winter and can't wait.
I've had a fully loaded 23 Pro4x for 10 months now and it has been great. Love it. Very solid, decent mileage, and great off road. Nissan hit a HR with this one.
Hey Tim, were you able to negotiate your price? I'm close to buying one....just wondering if there's wiggle room.
@@joemarchand8313 I was able to get mine for a few thousand below MSRP in early July, only certain larger dealers could offer that price tho, i brought an offer for that price from a dealer farther away to my local dealer and they said they couldn't do it.
@@joemarchand8313 A little bit. Dealer came off about 2,000 but he also gave me a good trade on my Titan Xd. So i came out ak.
@@joemarchand8313I got 4k off mine Saturday so depending on where you are you should be able to get the price down.
I'm torn between this and the Tacoma....leaning towards this.
I prefer the heavy steering, and definitely the naturally aspirated engine. Certainly will outlast any turbo four.
Prove it. I live in Wyoming and drive at elevation a lot. I had a Taco 2014 TRD off road. Sold it and got the new Ranger. I am at 40K miles with zero issues. And it is SO MUCH BETTER at altitude. I had 2 warranty reparis on my taco first 36K miles. Ranger 0. I will never EVER go back to NA engine.
@@drn13355 just wait until you hit around 60-80K… it’s comin’ 👍
@@4rr44EDoubt it.
@@drn13355obviously turbos are better at high altitude but overall naturally aspirated are less prone to breakdown
No, it will not because this engine has direct injection only. Good luck it out lasting a toyota with direct and port injection.
My first car was a 2000 Nissan frontier 5 speed manual with a 115k miles on it. Drove that thing until her last leg from 2009-2017. Loved that truck and now I might get the new one as an adult
I have a '23 Pro4x and love the steering feel. Coming from a sports car with tight, stiff steering, I'm used to that responsiveness. Going down the road, it's effortless to drive and only comes into play when doing u-turns or tight 90 degree turns into parking spaces. It just feels like a beefy truck and love that about it.
I love that you can still get a V-6. Everything else is a turbo 4 which are good engines but I do think if the engine doesn’t have to work as hard it will last longer.
Ridgeline is
still V6 with more interior room.
@@chiefman8316 But it's an old man's "truck."
@chiefman8316 that's not a truck it's a suv with a chopped rear
If anyone is going to properly do a reliable turbo engine it’s gonna be Toyota. These aren’t bolt on turbos these are ground up turbo designed engines. The 2023 V6 Tacoma had 265ftlbs of torque. The new one will have 465ftlbs. That’s a significant difference.
@@sammyjammy6647 None of the midsize have bolt on turbos.
here is the result from TFL towing up the "Ike"...
Colorado 4cyl turbo / Frontier 6cyl na
box trailer weight # 6800 / 6700
payload max / max
squat inches 2.5 / 2.0
speed mph 60 / 60
time minutes 7.5 / 7.9
max throttle foot to floor yes / yes
fuel consumed mpg 3.6 / 4.4
engine rpm 5400 / 6000
engine rpm per cylinder 1350 / 1000
conclusion for towing equal weights and speed:
Colorado
turbo works 35% harder,
turbo consumes 22% more fuel
suspension squats 25% more
Nissan is the superior truck
Have had mine for five months. I really like everything about it. Great gas mileage too.
Pros and cons so far I'm looking to buy a 23 frontier soon
there was a guy that recorded 1,000,000 MILES on his 2007 Nissan frontier ON TH-cam ! these Nissan trucks reliable!!!
Just got a 24 pro-x. It is the best decision I could’ve made after thinking over many different options !!!!!
If only nissan had kept the option of a manual transmission.
Amen. Only midsize left with a manual is one single trim of a Tacoma. Sad!
The more I see all the new versions of midsized trucks, the more I like the Frontier. Simple is good. I personally do not like the larger and larger touch screens. I just saw a review on a 2024 Ford Ranger. Ugh. It’s a 14” screen I think. I like the 2023 Ranger better. Right now, when I replace my 2003 Silverado, I might go Frontier, or maybe the Honda Ridgeline Trailsport. Bot have NA V-6 engines. I’m old school, and I like the simplicity.
Spot on review. This is a truck from a bygone era, simple, effective, rides nicely, and is (relatively speaking) affordable, the pro4x which is really the only version to buy doesn't even come close to the MSRP of the TRDs, AT4X, Raptor (when it comes out), etc.. The only reason I didn't buy one is because there is no 4-auto, and the backseat is absolutely atrocious for space (as most mid-size trucks are). It was an outdated truck the minute they released it, but almost in a good way, its a nostalgic truck. No massive tablet, no tiny turbo engine that will probably need to be fixed after a very short time, just a nice truck all the way around. That being said i'd probably take the new Tacoma in a heart beat if i could justify spending that much, but there is something to be said for the simplicity of this truck.
Total agreement, and The Back seat Sucks even the Ridgeline has more room and a V6
Try sitting in the ratcoma backseat😅
this model kind of makes me think of a 2004 Dodge Dakota
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you about the back seat, dude. I got lucky and found a loaded '23 PRO-4X a couple weeks ago, and in the color I was looking for, and I LOVE IT!
It drives great, has plenty of power, and looks friggin' awesome.
First of all, I don't haul around a bunch of adults in my back seat, so "room" is not really a big issue. We use the back seat for extra storage when my wife and I go on vacation for a couple weeks, or for just a weekend getaway.
Bad decision on your part for not buying one.
Plus, I would never buy any 4 cyl vehicle, especially a truck... turbo or otherwise. Bottom line?
Toyotas are way more expensive than Nissans and offer absolutely nothing to consumers that can justify it.
For my money, it is no contest...the Frontier is better equipped...better looking...performs off the road better...and are...wait for it... LESS EXPENSIVE!
The back seat area of the Tacoma is awful. I could not get my feet between the seats. Watching multiple videos on both the Tacoma and Frontier the Frontier appears to have more room. I hope to visit the Nissan dealer soon and see for myself.
Terry
Really a good looking pick up and dependable machine👌
I love that truck, well done brother. A good no nonsense vid
Hits almost everything I want. Just got a more paired down Pro4x and love it. Coming from a 2022 Ranger FX4
i still drive cars from the 90's... heavy steering is my preference. it let's you feel more connected to the vehicle imo.
i've only just recently started kicking around the idea of buying a new vehicle, since the aforementioned 90's vehicles are starting to fall apart. i saw one of these frontier's in the wild and had to do another lap in the parking lot to get a look at it. they're a pretty good looking truck.
i started with this truck, for the one i was going to get... then i moved to GMC canyon.... then it was the chevy colorado trail boss. then back to GMC, then back to Chevy... and now im back do nissan... because its the only midsized truck that has a V6 anymore. except for i think the jeep. so here i am again. lol. also the 2024 version might have 385 lb of torque... thats nice.
Lol I hear you , I'm looking into 23 Frontier
tbh I love the steering , my 2007 nissan xterra had heavy steering and the 2017 ford 250 i drive at work steering feels the same , ive driven light steering vehicles and it feels annoying . I don't get tired of harder steering and feel better control with it
I was in the process of buying a 2020 Taco TRD OR & happened to see the New style frontier and after some research fell in love. Only had my 22 Pro 4x for a week but it's been so fun to drive. Smooth, comfortable, functional, and definitely one of the best looking trucks out right now. Bulletproof drivetrain, with a proven engine & Trans that was out 2yrs before the body change. Got my 22 fully loaded pro4x with 15k less miles for 3K cheaper than that 2020 taco off road with minimal upgrades. Resale hold up very well for frontiers too!!!
Have a 2023 and love the steering. Needed to get used to it. Also, those 17" tires also help to make it a bit hard to turn.
Awesome review and very accurate too! I recently purchased a 24 Frontier SV RWD with practically no options, didn't get the convenience or technology package, I didn't want any of it, instead I got the tow package and that's all I needed. I wanted an old fashion truck to do truck stuff. My in town mpg is 15-17 mpg, stop and go traffic kills the gas mileage but on the open road whether it be a rural highway or the interstate I get close to 25 mpg and occasionally close to 30mpg if I keep the speed down to 55mph.
If you think the steering is difficult, you better hit the weight room.
That’s a dumb comment. I traded in a RAM 3500 for a frontier. The frontier steering sucks. The RAM was buttery smooth.
@@The_Cyberz the steering on the Frontier is fine. Hit the weight room.
@@GSPDUCKDOGlol it is a truck after all it shouldn’t feel like a fiat
This is better than the canyon/Colorado/ranger behind the Tacoma
I disagree, try driving the Tacoma for a long period of time on the highway is cumbersome the ergonomics of the seat is absolutely terrible. The 2024 year model will be much better yet price will be much more.
@@cdaniels1337 It is all about reliability.
@@chrisx5127 exactly, they took the same frame from the older generation and added a naturally aspirated 3.8l with a transmission they pulled from the titan. the frontiers reliability ratings is excellent. just type is frontiers reliability rating in google. There is no substance to the comment.
Better than the Ranger? I do think so. The steering wheel isn’t even telescopic and the infotainment screen is the slowest of them all. This thing came out yesterday, and is already outdated
@@cdaniels1337 idk man the 2024 taco new engine is a turn off for me
Yep. Hydraulic power steering is the best. Truck feels like a little tank driving it. I have the exact truck
It turns a little like a tank too, but I love mine.
Have had my 2022 Pro 4X now for 2 years. Very happy with it. 2 things I don't like. The delay in acceleration, and no seals in the tailgate area letting dust into the bed. I love to drive dirt roads in the mountains, and this truck does the job.
Absolutely adds to the authenticity of the truck! The steering gives you such a driving experience
Great truck. I’m getting 23 mpg combined with my truck. The steering is a bit heavy, but I like the feel.
i like heavy steering. i drove a friends suv the other day for a road trip and the steering was so light every input felt like i was veering out of the lane on the highway.
Do you drive in a larger city at all? I ask because I bought my 23 pro4x and live in a decent sized city averaging 16 and that's with auto start stop off because I hate it😅
Love the hydraulic assist PS vs electronic PS. NA engine is great too.
I just purchased a 2022 Nissan frontier pro4x and could not be more pleased! Coming from a f150 plantnum. I preferred the frontier old school truck feel over the ford new tech thay no surprises there where all ways breaking this truck and hope is more reliable then the fancy ford !!
Just bought a Nissan Frontier, absolutely love it
Reviews like this tell us nothing. 90% of Americans use their trucks as grocery getters. For them, a turbo can make sense; acceleration and mpg. I respect Toyota, but the seats are among the most uncomfortable for taller drivers. Nissan makes a truck for those who know and appreciate a real truck. There is no replacement for displacement. This becomes very apparent when loaded 1000# while towing 5000#: any and all advantages of turbos disappear. Hard to believe, but the Nissan 6cyl will achieve better mpg and handling than any 4cyl turbo when tow/haul for days on end. Driver fatigue is much less with the Nissan: great seats. When tow/haul daily, very doubtful any 4cyl turbo will last past 100k miles: but the Nissan will go +200k. "Ask me how I know all this and more.'"😊 For a real truck, better than the Frontier is the diesel-powered Navara; but sadly unavailable in USA.
yup they are like me... Im not really off roading or need max hauling or payload I just want a decent truck but I also like ones that LOOK nice... so im down to the Ridgeline(truckette??) which is OK but offers me everything I need and a LOT more space then a regular truck..or a "regular" truck and in those I have in the past had a Tacoma(first year redesign 1995) and a 1999 and 2007 Frontier... they were fine.. but as a daily commuter back and forth to work sucked because bad MPG..
Switched to SUV for a long time even a Dodge Charger R/T AWD for a while.. but now that im retired I think the bed would be useful, MPG has gotten acceptable.. so truck time again.. Of all the ones I looked at it came down to the Ridgeline and Pro4X Frontier either would do anything I want.. I like the looks of the Frontier though vs the Ridgeline
I want a king cab Pro4x version available in the states. Why is that so hard?
😢😢😢 I want the Pro X4
Love the Frontier, the Pro 4 X is awesome and will put last the segment
Give me some decent amenities but keep it more simple, I dont need 14" screens, Turbos, and tons of fancy software... I do like some tech I dont want to go back to 1999(my last Frontier) but I dont need everything to be electric or heated and cooled..seems like a bunch more to go wrong..Im actually looking at the Pro4X in a 23 or 24 because it had the V6...its simpler then the turbos and less to go wrong.
I will like/take comfortable seats, still want my climate control(both sides), even heated seats, power windows, decent room and power, I dont need the one thats "the best or most" of everything and thats loaded with stuff i will never use or even want.. I think this new Frontier in the Pro4X just looks great and has what I need/want and isnt overkill.
Its not a luxury car I dont need it optioned like one(GMC/Chevy looking at you here) just more stuff to go wrong 6K miles after your warranty is out..
I prefer it being basic. I need my truck to last 200k. And other than dealing with the direct injection it should be solid hopefully.
When the new taco comes out I'm gonna be interested in the comparison.
I guess the 4-cylinder only option in the new Tacoma isn’t good compared to a V6 Frontier…
@@faheemabbas3965 I guess it will all comes down to how well toyota engineered it.
@@faheemabbas3965they should have their D4S system in the new turbo Tacoma engines? I too am worried about the DI engine in the Frontier since it doesn’t have the extra set of injectors to clean the valves.
What's wrong with the direct injection⁉️
@@nervouswreck392 direct injection can will allow carbon buildup on the valves.
I used to drive my 2007 Tundra double cab with the 8' bed to Cambridge every day. It's a difficult place to park any size vehicle larger than a smart car. And those bike lanes...
I hate LED's, they are too bright and blind oncoming traffic. I'm surprised they are approved by dept of highway safety.
PURE BULK!!! no thanks! I had a 1993 Nissan SEV6 King cab 4x4! the best Nissan truck ever made for the US market in that period..... wish they'd still make them like they used to.
we're never gonna get mini-trucks like we used to... big daddy EPA says no. i still own a 1995 ford ranger w/ manual tranny. awesome truck, was my grandad's old truck. i'll never get rid of it.
@@spyker_aileron Nice!! keep it, I have a 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 5 speed with the 22re and sits on 35's with 5:29 gearing and gets 22 mpg using PURE gasoline, no E10 crap.
No that would have been the 4 cyl standard.
I rather have a heavy steering than light and numbness steering
I have a 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR. I love the truck but the seats are very uncomfortable. I can't drive around town without having bad back pain. How are the seats in the new Frontier?
I love it.. I sold my taco and for this after constant hip pain ..
Nissan owners love this truck, this guy wont wow you either!!
I’ve I’m being completely honest, when I first drove a frontier the only thing I wasn’t a big fan of at first was the steering. Regardless, I still can’t wait to purchase a Pro 4x of my own
The next gen will be a turbo I4
My mom's fully loaded Silverado (Rwd) in 2004 was 36k. This truck seems like the natural price progression instead of the craziness today
I have a Tacoma and very very disappointed that they went that 4 cylinder with the turbo I’m planning to change my truck next year and I am going to get the Frontier because still a truck and that’s what it matter ❤
Bed to small. Should be 6ft bed with double cab. Other than that, I like that they made it like a truck and not that luxury bs.
Ive been looking at the 22 Pro4x mostly because they are slightly cheaper.
Good review! Thanks!
When the refreshed frontier came out I was a little disappointed that it was just on par with the other trucks available at the time, and also worried it be way behind after all the other trucks were updated.
I was expecting great things from Toyota, not that impressed at the moment.
Chevy Colorado is a very nice truck and the new ranger looks very promising.
I’m not worried about turbo’s but not a fan of unnecessary electronic complications.
So I’m back looking at the frontier again.
Nice review.
Thumbs up if you're ready to take the Nissan Frontier for a test drive and experience its power!
2015 still running strong. see what I get for the next truck and when.
V6 FTW 🙌
Outdated is good. Ive been lookin at one of these. The main thing i dont like about the ranger is it feels like a simulator not a real vehicle
I have a 2014 Ram Laramie and I have a power rear sliding window. I have 2022 Nissan Frontier as well and it doesn't have it so its disappointing they dont have it
I like the heavy steering but you dont even notice it after you get used to it. I really don't like electric steering feels so weird and lifeless
Agree completely. I like it.
Difference between 2022 and 2023 Frontiers is the steering which was updated from hydraulic power steering to engine speed sensitive hydraulic power steering and at low speed turn I was pleasantly surprised I got none of that reviews of heavy steering.
Just text drove and totally agree. Didn't feel heavy at all.
Nissan Frontier Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed frame Dana 44 locking rear (pro 4X) Dana front diff, Spicer transfer case, powerful VQ engine, rear disc brakes, bullet proof made in the good ol' USA. Tacoma=33:1 crawl ratio, C frame (with on going frame recalls due to corrosion) rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax. To be honest all the new tech on the newer pick ups are failing miserably. Andre from TFL bought a Trail Boss and his LCD screen which is the tach and speedo just turned off. Sometimes less is more and I am willing to bet the new Tacoma's will be requiring premium fuel for that hybrid turbocharged 6 cylinder where the Frontier can take 87 all day. Less is more. To be honest this guy kind of comes off arrogant and prickly like he should be in a Raptor R because he just deserves it.
I have a 2006 frontier crew cab with a V6 4.0 litter engine. My older frontier is better than the new one. But the new frontier definitely looks much better though.
The Frontier's one of the most underrated trucks on the market. I was fortunate to acquire one of the last King Cab Pro4X's - a 2019 that I bought in COVID 2020 for about 30k brand new. I've never regretted getting the truck deal of a lifetime
This truck sounds like a success..
I like heavier steering
Quotes entry level trucks price, shows a 45-48k truck in the review LOL. These midsized trucks are not worth 40k+ no matter what package they have. I looked at a 23 Pro 4x recently to move into a smaller truck, and I ended up keeping my F150. More truck, better power, better towing, bigger interior, same fuel consumption and it only costs a few grand more.
This Is the reason why I never got a toyota tacoma. You're paying all this money when you can just get a full size truck. I like the f150 as well
We want reliability, not gadgets and screens
i love it. about the only big miss for me is the lack of an A pillar grab handle, as my old Fronty had. i used it all the time, even when just driving along, but especially off road technical driving. most people don't care, but it's a big one for a few.
I couldn't agree with you more!!
when I do the Frontier 2025 when Trump wins rates will be cheaper.
I'm going to my speed shop and have them install some kind of grab handle
If people are so concerned about fuel economy when it comes to pickup trucks, they should buy a bicycle and pull a little wagon behind themselves. I myself prefer a naturally aspirated engine and mechanical steering. Turbos and steer by wire are major problems looking for a place to happen.
Not outdated at all...quite innovative and the heavier steering is awesome when off-roading...this a direct competitor to the Tacoma and for anyone who has driven a Toyota can tell u..their transmissions are constantly gear hunting.. the nissan transmission is super smooth. Overall the Nissan better than Tacoma and offers more in cabin luxury items with a better and more software advanced infotainment unit...
Can you get a manual or is it gone for good??
Z1 offroad. Is coming out with a supercharger. Says will make 375 rwhp.
The problem with Nissan is they are just heavily refreshing their vehicles. They aren’t all new. Great way to save money, but the complaints the reviewer mentioned are linked to that. Nissan and Toyota sat for many many many many years not doing much for their trucks.
4:01 starts sweating because those idk if I want a truck that’s like like a truck. Those Ranger and Tacoma look great
I wouldn’t say it maxes out at 24 mpg because I’ve gotten 26.4 mpg.
I smell bullshit
No replacement for displacement. The Frontier will age well. Hopefully Edelbrock will offer a supercharger.😃
What about a locker?
good car
i like this
I have had my 2022 for almost a year now. You get used to the steering fast and don't even notice it. Do wish it came with LED lights.
I love this truck
Can someone please tell me if this truck is good in snow/hazardous weather conditions? I live in Northern Vt. and I need a reliable winter commuting vehicle.
Great in the snow, driven in in Michigan thru two winters. Make sure you get the 4x4
@@22michiganboy Thank you, Sir.
Reliability is always in question. It’s Nissan (it saddens me, because I’ve owned a few good ones in the past.).
This truck is the best truck but affirmative action truck downgrades nissan reputation
I have this truck & the driver seat is awful because every time I exit the Truck I hit the reclining Bucket seat (Button) with my Thigh.
All the vehicles I've ever own or driven has this never happen, why did they place the button so close to the seat is beyond me.
Why did they make the button smaller or molded a lip over the button that when cost only pennies.
You know how much in the pain in my A** to fix my seat each time I need to drive.
$48,000 + is not an affordable mid size truck.
Solid truck. Solid video. However, only max payload was shared. That is not the payload on the optioned Pro4X. I bet the payload is 400 to 500 lbs LESS on this truck. I am fine sharing max payload, but share the payload on the tested truck as well. I am also a bit concerned about the safety/crash ratings of the Frontier compared to some other mid-size trucks. However, it will stay on my short-list. I am planning to buy at the end of 2024.
Safety ratings among midsized trucks, the frontier is leading the lot of them. They are now doing crash tests with rear occupants & they ALL fall a little short but the frontier still leads the pack here.
@@bradleyclapper8378 I am a Frontier fan; however, in terms of safety, I think the Ridgeline scores 5s in every category except rollover and it scores a 4. I don’t think any truck scores a 5 with the rollover.
@@deanmay338 no midsize does well with rear occupants yet the frontier scores the best overall.
The heavy steering was a deal breaker for me. Only the steering.
I looked at the "new Frontier". Had a 2017 Frontier, loved it with one exception. The turning radius was horrible. The new Frontier was no better. Just as bad. That and the steering was heavy. I went with the Ford Ranger. I am not a turbo fan, liked the natural 6 the Frontier had, but the steering and turning radius on the Ranger was way better.
I wish the pro4x came with a 6ft bed..
Can I get one in a manual transmission?
High tech in many newer pickups is not a benefit. Overtime the repair costs of those items will be excessive. I think it is the GM that you have to use the touch screen to turn on the lights....no thanks
Heavy steering heavy clutch all day 👍
a truck with a heavy feeling steering .... if you're so weak that it's an issue, maybe you shouldn't be driving a real truck 😅
If the pro4x came loaded for 40k (loaded in Nissan terms I mean) then it would make sense but decently loaded they are like 45ish which just makes no sense to buy when you can get the 2024 Tacoma for similar money. Only advantage is if you like the v6 over the turbo 4
If you think that the new Tacoma is going to be sold near MSRP, I have a beachfront house in Fresno, California to sell you!
@@sasquatchhunter86 my local Toyota dealer hasn’t had a markup on any vehicle during the last few years. Besides, we both know you can’t afford a house never mind a new Toyota.
@@celticsfaninthedesert4778 actually got a brand new 18 Tacoma 4 x4 at $33k before taxes and financing. Sold it for nearly what I bought it for ($31k) and got a Highlander for the family. Also got a house right before the c-19 housing craze. From $260 - $360K in under 4 years. Not that it has anything to do with Toyota dealers marking up prices.
@@sasquatchhunter86 nobody is impressed dude, take a hike
The new Tacoma will be $50k plus is my guess. No clue how your fine spouting all your bullshi when Toyota hasn’t even given us a baseline price. I’ll bet the base Tacoma with bare minimum will cost more then a base pro4x. Come reply when mine ages quite well please.
None of them get “better” fuel economy. All the bs does is add complexity and problems. 9 (!!) speed transmissions? No manual transmission?
Lost me at the no telescope steering wheel.
The Pro4x is a nice truck, but comes too low to the ground. Should come about 2-3” higher. 🙄
Great V6 and 9speed trans, BUT tight back seat and no ventilated seats for southern buyers
The good thing it has a v6 over the tacoma but i would still buy a tacoma over this i get more hp with 2 electeic motors. And it just looks better.
Have fun replacing those turbo's.
@@funkfarmer7125 good thing the electruc motors take stress off the turbos. And goodluck haveing a boring truck
@@310chris18this outperforms the overrated Tacoma lol. Keep trying to fit in
I been hopping in between the Tacoma and the frontier. Toyota has done too much IMO with their design, and technology. A TC 4 cyl? Really? Might as well throw a Cadillac badging along with their TRD Pro that adds nothing but fancy badging and a cool color upgrade
Wish pro4x comes in a long bed
Tacoma or Frontier ? 😢
It is ashamed tht a full size Silverado has a junk 4 cylinder turbo and no v6 gm needs to get with good job nissian
Nice truck....10 years ago, when it should have been built.
Exactly lol. Nissan so far behind. But at least they are reliable.
Man I loved all my Nissans 1989,1993,2005.
Fun trucks all around.
we didn't need crawl control or that other stuff these new wave off road kids want need to go 4wheeling.....
I wish they would put the cool roof racks back on them!!
I'm buying one this winter and can't wait.
That's kind of the point. It's a simple reliable no frills non distracting truck
That’s why it’s underrated and better than the new Toyotas! New doesn’t always mean better
I have a '23 pro4x, it's not underrated ....
Regardless of your view on the new turbo 4 motors i feel for such a new truck its already outdated