To any of you wondering "Who is this guy and why should I listen to him?" I've been a member of ACR since around 2016 and I thought I was fast until... I found Jardier. Another member of ACR told me to find him on TH-cam and to try and beat his Race Room times to find out if my pace was good enough on PC.. I found out I could only either match his times or beat his top times about 30% of the time which isn't easy at all. Jardier in his prime (Not that he's not a killer on the track even now days) WAS FAST!! (A lot of his Race room times still stand today many years later) It took me forever to figure out how he done those laps with so little wheel input. Their is a reason he's won AOR leagues multiple times, and continues to make so called "Aliens" very nervous when he's in a lobby. I'll bet if you race him "Clean" you find yourself very frustrated, which is why he gets wrecked a lot by someone dive bombing him. A lot of drivers are technically good at driving, but jardier is more like myself in the fact that he's mostly self trained but that doesn't take away from him being a damn good driver. Anytime someone ask "How did you get so and so time at laguna Seca as an example" I send them here to give them a visual example of what smooth driving looks like, and to prove that aggressive driving and late breaking isn't really fast at all. If you want to learn how to be quick just study this guy and you'll be fine, and If I sent you here from a race.. Hello =) -ACR Neptune P.S: Remember "Smooth is Fast" or better yet "Drive as if you were trying to pet a snarling, angry Pit Bull"
I’m also around 1:46.3 in Porsche. Though I’ve identified where I can gain more speed.. my issue is not carrying enough speed through corners, and also still braking a little too early in some spots.
Hey Jardier, a good content for you channel would be take random replays from your subscribers or memberships and give then tips to improve their lap ( sorry for my bad english, im from Brazil and love to watch your videos ). Cheers!
Just bought ACC and have a 4H race in a week hope this will improve my time, I am on the 42:5 terrain for now, aiming for 41 to start, if possible high 40. Loved this lap guide
Just what I was looking for - cheers Jardier, great work. Might want to make those breaking points clearer with a line across the track for future vids?
thanks again for another track guide !! Just ask for more ! Really nice advices and improve my hotlap everytime I look at your track guide vids. Thanks for the time man, really appreciate
Awesome video, we just got this on console and it's such a cool but brutal track when you are chasing those last tenths. My sessions are normally just that half hour of pain without the payout at the end - it's great to see aliens struggling tho, maybe you are human afterall..., and gives us normal guys some hope
This was excellent!! Thanks :) I need training, i can only get 1:46 with my Lexus, but it is a really fun track. I have been at this 3 months and love SIM racing
Enjoyed the video Jardier, I will never come Close to a 1:40:100 but I'm sure this Track Guide will Help me improve. Thank you for the video mate, Oh and the kind words.
LOL, my goal always is to be within 5 secs behind... :D I think it's the thousands of hours Jardier put into racing, so experience wins. Also, i've never done that throttle pedal fiddling. Maybe it really helps. BTW: Acque Minerali, he pressed and released the throttle 5 times (!) just on the entry. I did it maybe once? Maybe...
He is in hotlap mode, so tyres have almost perfect grip and track is in perfect condition as well. That being said, even in this mode, there are some very strange results, for example top^speed I can get even when changing rear wing is 5 km/h lower, even with a MUCH BETTER exit (which is NOT the case) you can't get 5 km/h more at 260+ km/h on a so small straight line, so his car accelerates faster, no matter what. I tried changing ECU MAP, which enhances a bit more my own results but there is still a huge delta time between him and me. I really don't know how he manages to get that fast, it is not obviously driving skills (ok he is a bit better than me but NOT 3 seconds faster, there are even some turns I am faster soo...), it seems to be something else but I fail to see what. I don't use any help, at all, maybe there is something to not disable, don't know...but very interesting, indeed. And don't think I'm trying to avoid my own lack of skill, I'm really aware of my capabilities and I know that after driving for years on iRacing I avoid "mistreating" the car because it meant death each time in iRacing (huge tyre grip problem in iRacing that prevents attacking to gain time, not to mention car contacts that were a spin 95% of the time....all those habits need to be forgotten in ACC, trust me it doesn't come in 1 lap). I'm 100% sure that even with much better skills (an friend of mine that have a 8k iRating is doing the same lap times as me in ACC for example) I won't be able to gain 3 seconds...3 seconds is HUGE on a 1:40ish lap, it is really a huge time delta that needs some explanations.
@@jean-marctrappier4436 if you watch the live preview race for the Imola DLC with TH-camrs & developers, you'll see most of the top drivers were able to hit 1.40 to 1.41 in qualifying (not Hotlapping). Not everyone at the event was able to hit those times, but all of the top 15 were able to, and that's with almost no practice at Imola in ACC. A couple of the devs, Darin & Vasilakos, drove 42s. They didn't suggest that anything suspicious was going on with the top simracing TH-camrs. It's just years - for some, decades - of simracing experience th-cam.com/video/oY8rgkzXWI8/w-d-xo.html
@@91Fusion Some misconception here, I didn't pretend something was suspicious, at all...I am just wondering why us (me and some other iRacing pilots that are enjoying ACC as well) are driving 2 to 4 seconds slower than ppl on ACC, there must be a reason and beyond the different parameters and setup options that we don't have in iRacing, I think there is the chassis flex and the tyre model that play a great role here. In iRacing I avoid as much as I can to "hurt" the car, I try to be the smoothest I can because it is the only way to drive fast in iRacing. The tiniest slide is either a lot of time lost or spin, so we learned to avoid this as much as we can, so we don't attack the corner as much as you can in ACC. I think the problems lies here or is part of the problem. Track is not exactly the same neither, kerbs are much more dangerous in iRacing than in ACC (imho). That being said, I would LOVE to get telemetry from someone driving that fast to understand where I lose all this time because I can understand being 1 second slower than others but 4 seconds from top pilots and even 2 seconds from DEVS (!!!!), something is terrible wrong here so there is something I don't understand in ACC that prevents me from being quicker. Me and other ppl I talk about are also simracing for years, decades even...it is not the only reason then, there is something else. For example my feeling with FFB is very strange, I have serious issues feeling the car perfectly like I do in iRacing or rF2, ACC have something very strange in its ffb, can't get it to be like I want it to be, missing a lot of information. Yeah I know what some are thinking, "it is because ACC don't add fake effects, nia nia nia"...no, it is not, some information that SHOULD be present aren't, I don't fell when I lose rear, I don't fell when I brake, etc...very disturbing.
Wonderful guide! I've ran laps here today, very fun track! Really nice flow. Second to last and last corner are really difficult for me. But I'm going to learn, and hopefully master this track.
And here I am struggling to even hit the 1.44 😂 Thanks for the great guide. I'll do my best to use your tips to hopefully shave off at least a few tenths.
tbh , thats a really difficult truck! one question. in second shicane and the turn after piratella, are u braking in a straight line or braking under a small wheel rotation?
I have to work a lot to get at least a little bit closer to that time... for now I am doing 1:50s :D (with the Ferrari 2020) Far far away :D But I am at the beginning with my CSL Elite and learning the ACC.
@@WontedMender8 True. But, even if the porsche can brake later, i think i'm losing time because i'm too late on the accelerator after the corners followed by long straights.
How can you make this time when after trying very hard, taking huge risks and modifying the setup (not in hotlap, main difference) I only managed to make 1:43.9 ? It is almost 4 seconds better, no way in hell it is possible to gain even 2 seconds with the car I had and the track I had...what is so different ? Ok I was driving the Ferrari and the Porsche but it doesn't explain everything... EDIT : I tried in hotlap mode and I managed to make 1:42.8, this is still more than 2.6 seconds, I checked speed delta in every corner and even if there is some, it doesn't explain more than 2.5 seconds in the end, something extremely strange here...would love to know why is that. Can it be ECU MAP ? I used the default 2, I see you are using 1, can it explain this ?
Replying to myself : well, my settings were green track, 42°....changed to optimum and 27° and very surprisingly, I did a 1:41.7 at 2nd try...changes A LOT of things...pretty sure I can get to 1:40 as well (high 1:40, not low)
Damn I tried to memorize what you said by cutting corners and using your brake markers and came down to a 1:43.9 but getting to a 1:40 isn't going to happen
Well a direct drive wheel is also a little bit easier to catch slides unlike non dd wheel bases. Also practice and practice you start to learn where you can get better just takes time.
You can get it up to pace but you will struggle in race situations because of low top end speed. With fuel load it's actually very stable over the curbs but you have to drive much safer when it's nearing empty. Braking zone into Aqua Minerale is hella difficult but it's possible to have a consistent line with the Porsche as well.
23mns to get you're good hotlap. You don't know what suffering is. Takes me several hours and nowhere near that time. Great track guide give the dog a pat from me.
I cannot understand why everyone has to pronounce in a wrong way every fucking italian name. It is not that difficult, it's not Imòla, it is Imola, east.
I was happy with my 41.5 but not have to go back re try it after this 🤦♂️🤣 don't know where or even if I could find 1.4 seconds from. A 40.1 is mighty around here
To any of you wondering "Who is this guy and why should I listen to him?"
I've been a member of ACR since around 2016 and I thought I was fast until... I found Jardier.
Another member of ACR told me to find him on TH-cam and to try and beat his Race Room times to find out if my pace was good enough on PC.. I found out I could only either match his times or beat his top times about 30% of the time which isn't easy at all.
Jardier in his prime (Not that he's not a killer on the track even now days) WAS FAST!! (A lot of his Race room times still stand today many years later) It took me forever to figure out how he done those laps with so little wheel input. Their is a reason he's won AOR leagues multiple times, and continues to make so called "Aliens" very nervous when he's in a lobby. I'll bet if you race him "Clean" you find yourself very frustrated, which is why he gets wrecked a lot by someone dive bombing him. A lot of drivers are technically good at driving, but jardier is more like myself in the fact that he's mostly self trained but that doesn't take away from him being a damn good driver. Anytime someone ask "How did you get so and so time at laguna Seca as an example" I send them here to give them a visual example of what smooth driving looks like, and to prove that aggressive driving and late breaking isn't really fast at all. If you want to learn how to be quick just study this guy and you'll be fine, and If I sent you here from a race..
Hello =)
-ACR Neptune
P.S: Remember "Smooth is Fast" or better yet "Drive as if you were trying to pet a snarling, angry Pit Bull"
Awwww thanks mate!!!!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍
When you were trying to get the best hotlap in merc and kept getting track limits, we've all felt that pain
Definitely! This track feels so strict in that regard ...
I feel the track limits r Inconsistent. Cut a corner and no warning next lap u do the same and u get a warning
Jardier, 1.40.8 bad lap, meanwhile i'm doing 1.46 and i'm satisfied xD very nice man!
same, cant get below 46's and its so frustrating
Did you guys get it? In 720s I'm at 1:46:212
I’m also around 1:46.3 in Porsche. Though I’ve identified where I can gain more speed.. my issue is not carrying enough speed through corners, and also still braking a little too early in some spots.
Great job Jardier! Really liked the 3rd person view in slow mo for the brake points and your comments on car positioning/track limits!
Hilarious editing. Thanks for showing us the range of emotions we all experience 😄.
Hey Jardier, a good content for you channel would be take random replays from your subscribers or memberships and give then tips to improve their lap ( sorry for my bad english, im from Brazil and love to watch your videos ). Cheers!
That tip to aim at crane (forklift?) was just ACE. Helped a lot
Just bought ACC and have a 4H race in a week hope this will improve my time, I am on the 42:5 terrain for now, aiming for 41 to start, if possible high 40.
Loved this lap guide
imola is easily in top3 my favs. nice vid)
Just what I was looking for - cheers Jardier, great work. Might want to make those breaking points clearer with a line across the track for future vids?
thanks again for another track guide !! Just ask for more ! Really nice advices and improve my hotlap everytime I look at your track guide vids. Thanks for the time man, really appreciate
Awesome video, we just got this on console and it's such a cool but brutal track when you are chasing those last tenths. My sessions are normally just that half hour of pain without the payout at the end - it's great to see aliens struggling tho, maybe you are human afterall..., and gives us normal guys some hope
Thanks for this! I am struggling to control the car when driving super aggressively. This ones going to take a lot of practice!
This was excellent!! Thanks :) I need training, i can only get 1:46 with my Lexus, but it is a really fun track. I have been at this 3 months and love SIM racing
Great guide 😁 I just started learning Imola a few days ago and already love it. Challenging and fast, a blast!
Just in time for a lap on the new track!
Enjoyed the video Jardier, I will never come Close to a 1:40:100 but I'm sure this Track Guide will Help me improve. Thank you for the video mate, Oh and the kind words.
I'm 3 seconds slower than you and I have no idea how. You get some godlike grip. Unreal driving skill well done.
Same, I did 1:44 and I was very happy haha
LOL, my goal always is to be within 5 secs behind... :D I think it's the thousands of hours Jardier put into racing, so experience wins. Also, i've never done that throttle pedal fiddling. Maybe it really helps. BTW: Acque Minerali, he pressed and released the throttle 5 times (!) just on the entry. I did it maybe once? Maybe...
He is in hotlap mode, so tyres have almost perfect grip and track is in perfect condition as well. That being said, even in this mode, there are some very strange results, for example top^speed I can get even when changing rear wing is 5 km/h lower, even with a MUCH BETTER exit (which is NOT the case) you can't get 5 km/h more at 260+ km/h on a so small straight line, so his car accelerates faster, no matter what. I tried changing ECU MAP, which enhances a bit more my own results but there is still a huge delta time between him and me.
I really don't know how he manages to get that fast, it is not obviously driving skills (ok he is a bit better than me but NOT 3 seconds faster, there are even some turns I am faster soo...), it seems to be something else but I fail to see what.
I don't use any help, at all, maybe there is something to not disable, don't know...but very interesting, indeed.
And don't think I'm trying to avoid my own lack of skill, I'm really aware of my capabilities and I know that after driving for years on iRacing I avoid "mistreating" the car because it meant death each time in iRacing (huge tyre grip problem in iRacing that prevents attacking to gain time, not to mention car contacts that were a spin 95% of the time....all those habits need to be forgotten in ACC, trust me it doesn't come in 1 lap). I'm 100% sure that even with much better skills (an friend of mine that have a 8k iRating is doing the same lap times as me in ACC for example) I won't be able to gain 3 seconds...3 seconds is HUGE on a 1:40ish lap, it is really a huge time delta that needs some explanations.
@@jean-marctrappier4436 if you watch the live preview race for the Imola DLC with TH-camrs & developers, you'll see most of the top drivers were able to hit 1.40 to 1.41 in qualifying (not Hotlapping). Not everyone at the event was able to hit those times, but all of the top 15 were able to, and that's with almost no practice at Imola in ACC. A couple of the devs, Darin & Vasilakos, drove 42s. They didn't suggest that anything suspicious was going on with the top simracing TH-camrs. It's just years - for some, decades - of simracing experience th-cam.com/video/oY8rgkzXWI8/w-d-xo.html
@@91Fusion Some misconception here, I didn't pretend something was suspicious, at all...I am just wondering why us (me and some other iRacing pilots that are enjoying ACC as well) are driving 2 to 4 seconds slower than ppl on ACC, there must be a reason and beyond the different parameters and setup options that we don't have in iRacing, I think there is the chassis flex and the tyre model that play a great role here.
In iRacing I avoid as much as I can to "hurt" the car, I try to be the smoothest I can because it is the only way to drive fast in iRacing. The tiniest slide is either a lot of time lost or spin, so we learned to avoid this as much as we can, so we don't attack the corner as much as you can in ACC. I think the problems lies here or is part of the problem. Track is not exactly the same neither, kerbs are much more dangerous in iRacing than in ACC (imho).
That being said, I would LOVE to get telemetry from someone driving that fast to understand where I lose all this time because I can understand being 1 second slower than others but 4 seconds from top pilots and even 2 seconds from DEVS (!!!!), something is terrible wrong here so there is something I don't understand in ACC that prevents me from being quicker.
Me and other ppl I talk about are also simracing for years, decades even...it is not the only reason then, there is something else. For example my feeling with FFB is very strange, I have serious issues feeling the car perfectly like I do in iRacing or rF2, ACC have something very strange in its ffb, can't get it to be like I want it to be, missing a lot of information. Yeah I know what some are thinking, "it is because ACC don't add fake effects, nia nia nia"...no, it is not, some information that SHOULD be present aren't, I don't fell when I lose rear, I don't fell when I brake, etc...very disturbing.
Thank you. Your track guides are aways a big help :)
Wonderful guide! I've ran laps here today, very fun track! Really nice flow. Second to last and last corner are really difficult for me. But I'm going to learn, and hopefully master this track.
And here I am struggling to even hit the 1.44 😂 Thanks for the great guide. I'll do my best to use your tips to hopefully shave off at least a few tenths.
Brilliant video Jardier. I’ll be trying my best to get up to speed and keep you behind me longer in the next community race 😉
tbh , thats a really difficult truck! one question. in second shicane and the turn after piratella, are u braking in a straight line or braking under a small wheel rotation?
Thank you, Jardier. That was BRILLIANT!
is 1:40.2 still a realistic lap time considering the v1.8 update? i can barely get into 1:44s :'(
When i release the brakes on the amg, the back of the car slides away. Should i do more trailbraking? Or is it more setup wise?
Great guide - Thanks Jardier!
Jardier: This is going to be the lap
Doggy: Hello, I am your difficulty tweak :)
good guide Jards. What do you do now I wonder? Been hitting low 1:33's in the Aston today and I'm sure you're faster than that.
how do you manage a 1:33 here?
@@crazylicious6979 sorry dude, got my timing completely wrong. I'm nowhere near that! I guess cider confused my brain. Love Jards btw
Great video, Jardier. Super helpful!!!
Thanks J. I watched this video like 5 times. And I practiced all night, I'm fucked now. And my lap time is nowhere near even. Hie hie ho ho ha ha.
thankyou mate very helpful as always great video 👍
And each setup you use here!
This is very helpful Jardier, thank you. 👍👍
Thank You !
Awesome duder! The effort is appreciated
I have to work a lot to get at least a little bit closer to that time... for now I am doing 1:50s :D (with the Ferrari 2020) Far far away :D But I am at the beginning with my CSL Elite and learning the ACC.
I see Jimmer gave you the power to do the 1:40.1 **sees no punterino shirt**
I cut 6 seconds off my time since last week.. 1:45 now, so happy, but here is a man calling 1:40:8 bad..
LOL, best time in Ferrari EVO as of yet 1:45.2... only 5 seconds to gain :D
i'm at 46.2..... :D
Thanks
What do you think about the Nissan on Imola? Nice video Jard :)
Some Sosig good...some sosig bad...hahaha good video Jardier, cheers
I feel like i can brake a lot later with the porsche. Is it just because of the different car?
maybe i'm entering too fast sacrificing the exit.
Different cars have different braking zone but ABS, brake bias and how the car is set up all play a part in how the car brakes as well
@@WontedMender8 True. But, even if the porsche can brake later, i think i'm losing time because i'm too late on the accelerator after the corners followed by long straights.
love ur videos mate, thanks :)
thanks for the excellent vid .really appreciate the advice. ✌
Why this is fantastic!!
Very nice "drug guide". Thanks.
Ciao Jardier thank you very much for the great advice🤞
Thanks Jardier. Love it..
i am italian, you are good youtuber
deserved a Like . ;)
1 second faster than GT2 world record IRL.
10:28 Had me laughing :D
some people are like: "i dont know if to buy this DCL".
me: REALY ?
That's the fastest thing i bought in my entire life lol, not even a slight hesitation xD
pog video jards!
did a fckin 1.38 today in AMS2 and invalidated it at the last bit
is it just me or the old AMG feels funny now with the new tyre model? very different grip with the 2020 evo
Yep:)
Yours dog is so cute😂
RIP GT-R GT3. no love for Godzilla
I like that shirt tho J I M M E R
How can you make this time when after trying very hard, taking huge risks and modifying the setup (not in hotlap, main difference) I only managed to make 1:43.9 ? It is almost 4 seconds better, no way in hell it is possible to gain even 2 seconds with the car I had and the track I had...what is so different ? Ok I was driving the Ferrari and the Porsche but it doesn't explain everything...
EDIT : I tried in hotlap mode and I managed to make 1:42.8, this is still more than 2.6 seconds, I checked speed delta in every corner and even if there is some, it doesn't explain more than 2.5 seconds in the end, something extremely strange here...would love to know why is that. Can it be ECU MAP ? I used the default 2, I see you are using 1, can it explain this ?
Replying to myself : well, my settings were green track, 42°....changed to optimum and 27° and very surprisingly, I did a 1:41.7 at 2nd try...changes A LOT of things...pretty sure I can get to 1:40 as well (high 1:40, not low)
Oh yeah 42 C is waaaay too hot :)
I went out did a 1:45.5 and thought wow ok not bad, then I watched this video 🤦🏻♂️..how are you so fast???
Damn I tried to memorize what you said by cutting corners and using your brake markers and came down to a 1:43.9 but getting to a 1:40 isn't going to happen
Well a direct drive wheel is also a little bit easier to catch slides unlike non dd wheel bases. Also practice and practice you start to learn where you can get better just takes time.
its so easy, how come i didnt think of this
I‘m soo far away in the same car, i even refuse to post my time🥵
No one ever talks about the porsche :(
I feel like Porsche would be good here but I am not sure with the curbs. Can the porsche handle Imola curbs you think?
You can get it up to pace but you will struggle in race situations because of low top end speed. With fuel load it's actually very stable over the curbs but you have to drive much safer when it's nearing empty. Braking zone into Aqua Minerale is hella difficult but it's possible to have a consistent line with the Porsche as well.
Being fast here in porsche is pretty hard..
You will suffer because of your top speed but worth the try.
23mns to get you're good hotlap. You don't know what suffering is. Takes me several hours and nowhere near that time. Great track guide give the dog a pat from me.
I cannot understand why everyone has to pronounce in a wrong way every fucking italian name.
It is not that difficult, it's not Imòla, it is Imola, east.
why so slow ? xD
4th
This guy should have won the last download code @Jardier - He can see into the future
My PB is 41.9. Now i have to train harder. I was thinking tha I was did a superb job. And now Im realising that how shit my lap is :(
I was happy with my 41.5 but not have to go back re try it after this 🤦♂️🤣 don't know where or even if I could find 1.4 seconds from. A 40.1 is mighty around here