Laz Diaz Calls Nestor Cortes for Quick Pitch, But For a Needlessly Complex Reason: Keep it Simple!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Umpire Laz Diaz called Yankees pitcher Nestor Cortes for a quick pitch vs Chicago's Corey Julks one pitch after Cortes delayed his delivery with a "slow pitch", but complicated matters by citing a technical rule about stepping off and on the rubber instead of a more obvious one. Umpires, keep your calls simple! Article: www.closecalls...
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YOU CANNOT HAVE A BALK WITH NO RUNNERS ON BASE.
This is an illegal pitch because it is a quick return pitch. The pitch prior (the "slow pitch") isn't something subject to penalty (because the bases are empty), but it could get a "don't do that" instruction if the umpire wishes to give it.
It would appear Nestor's delivery clipped from the 1st inning at 0:24 also features a toe-tapping step off/step on movement. For that point about consistency at 5:25.
I appreciate the consistency in your attire for the Nestor videos 😂
This is the best baseball TH-cam channel by far, IMHO. I look forward to every video.
Second best. Jomboy is the best.
@@poluticon Jomboy's problem is that he rarely knows the rules, and calls things "judgement calls" when they're really black and white and he just doesn't know the rules himself to correctly make the call. He can be entertaining, but he does a lot of videos on controversial calls and doesn't explain the correct call himself. It also doesn't help that he is biased towards the Yankees, you're not going to see him do a video on the Mariners' incredible comeback against the Yankees.
Had not heard the lizard/elephant example - we've always said - don't go fishing for minnows, only catch the muskies
I'm a city boy, and even I can appreciate that one. 👍
I don't like it. You fish for minnows and then use them to catch the bigger fish.
@@joeg5414 LMAO you do not fish for minnows, you trap them
Lindsey should be an MLB umpire.
Just my opinion, but she should be MLB's head of umpiring.
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I want to say she was an umpire before she had to stop cause of injury. Pretty sure it was mentioned in some video before but I could also be wrong. She still does an amazing job with these videos though
It may not be in the rulebook, but MLB issued a statement that going forward a fake pitch, like Cortes', is to be called an illegal pitch.
Whats a fake pitch?
@@GregAustin-w2sshe shows it, it’s that little fake throw then the actual thrown
Great explanation. Even when I don't necessarily agree with some of your interpretations I enjoy your videos. Thanks
was waiting for this video
Same here.
I'm on the pitcher's side here. The difference or time gap between alert and reasonably set is kind of arbitrary. I feel like some batters never stop moving the bat UNTIL the pitcher starts his motion.
But for the pitcher's sake I hope they start calling more of his nonsense illegal pitches. Eveything he's doing is pretty stupid. He's only making himself less effective. Timing disruptions are a real tool for pitchers to use. I've been watching Trevor Bauer's YT channel and his break downs of his starts. He uses a full windup, a leg kick and a slide step. The difference between the slowest and fastest delivery is 1 second or less. Thats all the timing disruption needed. Not doing something like looks like interpretive dance lol
Sorry Yanks, but I really hate Nasty Nestor. He's always pushing the limits with his delivery motion, playing mind games, etc. I suppose I'd find all the trickery amusing if I were a NYY fan. But as it is, I can't stand it and am glad some umps have the balls to call him out.
I hate the Yanks but I like Nestor. He's fun to watch and his mind games are very creative IMO.
I think this pitcher is being super creative, he’s just trying to push the boundary of the rules. As for the quick-pitch, the batter was set and ready to go, therefore the pitch should have been legal. Pitcher is just mixing up his timing is all.
Wrong, but thanks for playing. The buffoon stepped off the runner and then stepped into the rubber and pitched quickly. He’s a joke.
@@rayray4192 I think your confused.
@@GregAustin-w2s does anyone really care what you think.
Semi related question if you have a moment to answer: When I was just a year or two into umpiring, I got an umpire chief who was a total hardass. Everything by the book. To the point where every time a pitcher brought their pitching hand to the mouth he added a ball to the count. I never read that rule, and I’ve never seen anyone else in more than a decade since call that. Is it even a rule?
Yes. But the first time for each pitcher should be a warning.
Very well explained. Thank you Lindsay.
Why is Cortez even arguing? He knows exactly what he did smh.
Cause he is a Yankee player, it’s in their blood to complain about everything that doesn’t go their way.
@@benwohleber7537just like a Yankee hater trying to call out Cortes, whawhawha
@@TheNaharaiRight so I don't have a strong opinion on the Yankees at all. They're fine. I'm not really a hater of any team.
Cortes is a big baby.
Because he wasn't called for what he knows he did, a quick pitch. Over half of MLB pitchers do the lift and tap on the pitchers rubber.
@@StevenHusak that's bs, because he still knew exactly what he did
Every time I see a Nestor Cortez highlight I think of like a 7 year old pitcher who thinks he's clever and has figured out a way to get strikes his arm won't earn.
Umps need to start issuing a don’t do that to him and calling him for the quick pitches. He knows what he is doing and it needs to end.
Interesting. So, then Spencer Strider might be the only pitcher (or at least the only one I can think of) that never loses contact with the rubber in his wind up. He starts with his plant foot parallel with the rubber.
So, could a pitcher in the stretch also be called for a quick pitch on a slide step to the plate? If that pitcher lifts his leg one on pitch, then slide steps on the next pitch? I have never seen or heard of that happening to a pitcher, but based on the wording of the rule, it would make sense if that would be called.
Slide step toward home is a legal strategy to get a runner stealing a base. It’s not considered a quick pitch. A quick pitch had intent to catch a hitter off balance. A slide step is acceptable and all hitters are aware it’s legal.
Keeping the foot on the rubber while pivoting seems like the rule in soccer where a goalkeeper has to have both feet on the line at the time of a penalty kick. No one does it, and whenever some eager-beaver official starts calling it, they have to call it three, four times in a row because the players don't know how to do it any other way.
A quick pitch is a judgement call. We are not all going to agree, but if his quick pitch is going to be called then should the pitch before since they are both meant to disrupt timing.
How in the world did Nestor get this far in his career doing crap like this?
“Crap” 😂🤡
Im sure he has had some effect with it. But personally I have never seen Cortes actually follow up with a good pitch after his hijinks
He got there BY DOING THIS TRASH
Thank you Lindsay for helping me understand these new rules in baseball 🎉
It's really not a new rule.
Not sure I agree.. replay shows the hitter completely ready to recieve the pitch... this is just an attempt to change his timing so the hitter can't use his motions timing... Personally, this looks a little like... it looks weird so it must be wrong... I was always told a QP is when the hitter is clearly not yet ready... here, he just sped up his delivery...
It's the obvious intent to deceive
quick pitch and no
I can see that argument, although it seems a little too close between the batter getting set and the pitch being delivered. I didn't go frame by frame, but it wouldn't surprise me if the delivery was started before the batter was reasonably set. I agree it does look weird, there's nothing wrong with speeding up the delivery though. I feel like if he had waited to pitch even like a second more, it would still be a faster delivery but batter wouldn't of just gotten set and wouldn't be as caught off guard by the pitch. It was close though
Compare the normal routine of the batter, and then the movements for this pitch. They're clearly cut off. So he's not ready.
You really need glasses. Look at his bat, it goes from going to set position at normal speed to the body and bat rushing to be able to hit.
What I don't see is what defines this as quick as opposed to perfectly timed. The batter does his bat windup, has it in position, pauses there briefly and then the pitch. That looks like it should be reasonably set, so what makes this early rather than perfectly timed?
Excellent call, the giveaway is Díaz isn’t even set himself.
I’m sure if the umpires could clearly and concisely explain with reference to the rules, the arguments would be a lot simpler.
They normally do, and honestly, no. I had a play a couple weeks ago where I explained the rule very well using rule book terminology. Manager was having non of it. I then gave a second explanation using no rule book terminology, he shut up, and walked away. He later told me "the second explanation was way better than the first."
I know after you explain this, I'm going to feel like an idiot...but.. here I go anyway :facepalm:. When a pitcher is in set, and normally does a high leg kick for 90% of the game, and then does a slide step, how would that not fall under the category of a quick pitch using this reasoning? (I understand it's legal, and happens all the time to try and prevent stealing. But this video has me questioning the legality of either this one, or the slide step.)
Slide step is not a quick pitch designed to catch a batter off guard and off balance. In 33 years I’ve never seen a hitter off balance on a slide step pitch. It’s a normal part of baseball. A quick pitch is about intent to gain an unfair advantage.
@@rayray4192 you ever watch any Trevor Bauer videos? Slide step can for sure be used to catch batter off guard, and, absolutely used to deceive runners. (I know it’s legal, I’m playing devils advocate based on Lyndsays rulings) So, WHY is it legal vs the other? Rule citation?
Love your content, Lindsay!
Question: is there any further definition of “off balance”?
My thought is…all pitchers are trying to catch a batter off balance.
In this instance, the batter was locked in, in his full hitting position, and…Nestor got him!
The *effect* is almost exactly like throwing a fastball after a changeup. Timing is way off and the batter is caught…off balance.
For me, “off balance” would include things like “hasn’t put his second foot down while getting into the batters box”, or “is setting himself in the box and taking a breath while looking at his bat”, things like that.
Because otherwise, Nestor could start the game with that “quick pitch” motion, throw 2-3 like that, claim that’s his natural motion, and then mix it up the rest of the game with his other more traditional motions.
Nester Cortez would make a great Bush league travel ball coach. Keep doing what you do, Nester. Plenty of parents out there to call you the trash you are.
2:18 Did he, or did he not pick up his pivot foot, causing him to disengage the rubber, then re-engage before throwing the pitch?
He always disengages the rubber like that. Lot of pitchers do.
could that consider be a balk by cortes
Would need runners on base.
First time I disagree with you. The batter was set.
If they're forced to cut out part of their normal routine of getting set, then no, they're not set....
Cortes’ motion was quick in a clear attempt to catch the batter off guard. That is the definition of quick pitch.
@@MwD676 no it is not. Now that the pitch clock exists, we see the umpires routinely remind the pitchers to allow the hitters to get set and to make eye contact and then they can begin the pitch process. Once the hitter is set and ready, you can tweak your wind-up any way you want. If Nestor would have given the hitter another second or so, there would be nothing wrong with that delivery. No where in the rule book does it state that you have to keep the same wind-up allowing hitters to perfect their timing
I love Laz's old school attitude
One of the 3 worst umpires in MLB
If he's already been told don't do it then it is illegal.
that caster was way too excited for a quick pitch call 😂
White Sox are tied for the least wins in baseball so the broadcasters need SOMETHING to get excited about… the team itself isn't gonna provide it.
Me before watching the video, looking at the title: Uh oh, it's Laz...
Me after watching the video: Well, that coulda been worse, but yeah...KISS.
Please explain why they ruled that you can't karate chop the ball out of someone's glove at first base (I think both Robbie Grossman and ARod have both been called for this?) but Bellinger at the end of the game today can karate chop the ball out of the catcher's hand when he's showing the ump the ball after tagging him out?
Also, how does this fit in with the "you can't slam into the catcher to knock the ball loose" rules that were added after the Posey collision?
I've begun to hate New York almost as much as the umps.
Without looking at what happened, my best guess would be it's some sort of retired runner interference. As for not being able to slide into the catcher, those rules are likely about protecting against injury (potentially same with bonafide slide although I'm not sure) by slamming into them. By contrast, karate chopping the ball out of the glove doesn't bring with it the same risk of injury as colliding with someone with your full body weight and such
Bellinger karate chopped it out of his hand? Posey rule??? LMAO. Keep stretching.
Now I see why Laz calls pitches 15 inches off the plate strikes, he's too busy staring at the pitcher's feet.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on the walk-off play between the Pirates and Cubs today. My main thought: Wrigley apparently has eight whole cameras in the entire park.
It was only a quick pitch because Cortes quick pitched Laz Diaz 😂
Cortes better hope he never see’s an at bat, cause he’s getting beaned with all this bullshit he pulls lol
you have issues.
I doubt anyone is going to hit him for it.
How to piss off the umpire 101...
If Nestor was at all worth a shit, he wouldn't have to do this nonsense
Spot on. He is a clown. Pitch the ball better and stop with the Banana Ball stuff (which is great but not in MLB).
But Lindsay, maybe Lance likes little lizards better than ponderous pachederms 😊.
Came dancing across the dirt mound, Cortez Cortez ....
"Reasonably set" is subjective. Nestor has every right to argue.
Disregard reasonably set. It was a quick pitch either way.
God Nestor Cortes gets on my nerves... I find that delayed or quick delivery like he does are disrespectful...
I love it. Finally a bit of personality
It depends who does it... Adrian Beltre was hysterical with his antics. Yankee players are just obnoxious (except Judge - he's the only Yankee with class).
If MLB would just extend the balk rules to call an illegal pitch when a pitcher commits a "balk" with no runners on base, like it should, instead of creating new BS rules to cover things like the shift or limiting pickoff throws, conversations like this one cease to exist.
Baseball knows what it needs to do, it just refuses to do it.
The penalty for a balk is to advance all runners a base. Since there are no runners, an illegal pitch with no runners on base causes a ball to be added to the count. Seems about right to me.
Laz is not the best, but if you side with Nestor on this issue you're dumb lol
This is the reason baseball sucks.
The call, or Cortez being a clown?
@@jeremygoldenberg9617 obviously the call. Nestor make the game fun to watch.
@@poluticon Really? Watching him act like a clown and throw the ball 4 feet above the zone made the game fun? I guess we have a very different appreciation of the game...
@@jeremygoldenberg9617 yeah I’m not an old codger like you so I appreciate the excitement he brings
@@poluticon I must've missed when 32 became an "old codger" but you do you.
Great explanation and remedy. Thanks CCS
, but okay. There's nothing that says you have to have a certain length of emotion when you go to pitch. The batter had his head up and was ready to hit, there's no issue here, other than umpires don't know how to interpret rules.