Wallace Collection Longsword A479
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- Dr Tobias Capwell of the Wallace Collection and Tod Todeschini of Tods Workshop chat about the German longsword A479 from the Wallace Collection and Tods reproduction of the sword.
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If it's cobbled together from many different swords, can we say it's literally a "Bastard Sword"?
Frankensword. "It's alive!!"
What a strange feeling it must have been to realize that by making an effective fighting sword one had introduced inaccuracies. A good deal of Dr. Capwell's comments seem to be (legitimate) criticisms of the composite Wallace piece! So lovely to see his appreciation for your work!
Some of the most interesting content on youtube!
Kinda surprised that there are "only" 12k subsribers to this channel... That will go up I believe!
bandholm Oh yes, definitely
And now 244k. In the middle of a pandemic.
@@TripperJonMD 331k! Lockdowns were good for Tod's channel :D
I learn so much from these videos with you and Toby. I don't think there's anything else out there like them. Craftsman + scholar-practioner is hard to beat.
I love these videos you make with Dr. Capwell. I’d say that it’s not just brilliant from a marketing perspective, but you’re both so knowledgeable; it really is quality content.
These videos you two are doing together might be the best discussions of medieval arms that I've ever come across. Please, please keep them coming. They are absolute nectar to me.
Did he say, Julian Asange bought that sword? Awesome, if so.
I love these discussions, and I hope you keep doing them!
A lot of the men at arms thought of their arming sword as more than a tool for war, I think they were emotionally attached to the arming sword, it became expected for a knight to have one, for a symbol more than anything else, and I think the arming sword is still one of the most beautiful and symbolic swords in history.
Great Video.
Keep up the good work Todd.
You're amazing!
This sword and the reproduction especially the reproduction are stunning to say the least.
Another amazing sword. It's really nice to see both of the swords together
Surprised by the length of the blade. I'm hardly an expert but it seems somewhat shorter than other longswords I've seen. I actually like it a great deal. Interesting that the reproduction makes the weapon more functional than the original. Wish I could afford a commission from Tod.
Did you say the sword belongs to Julian Assange? Is he planning a dramatic escape from the embassy?
Oh the irony of me reading this today
Haha I thought this too, at first. Unfortunately no, though, he’s talking about someone who frequents a forum that a lot of Arms & Armor enthusiasts are on who happens to have a similar name.
@@Boggsy. what forum may I ask?
@@FeArmizare myArmoury. There’s a thread on the first A479s he built.
Seeing this one on Matt's channel made my jaw drop. Cheers! .)
Did not expect Julian Assange to be in a Tod's Workshop video!
Tod,
I practise HEMA, and have seen this sword before (and admired your reproduction). It seemed to me that the alleged "finger ring", in conjunction with all of the other bars on the guard, would be incredibly useful for protecting your fingers when binding and winding, which is one of the trademarks of German (especially Liechtenauer) lineage longsword fencing.
For a right handed fencer getting into a bind with another right handed fencer, when you perform certain winding motions, you may manoeuvre your opponent's blade, inviting it to slide up very close to your fingers, if not right up to the guard. This brings their weak to your strong, at which point you can perform a thrust, hew, or slice. Without feeling out your opponent's pressure perfectly and without your hands and blade being at the perfect angle, your opponent's blade may angle too steeply toward you, slicing into your protruding knuckles or side of your finger, sometimes at great speed if their blade slides down yours too quickly.
You wouldn't have to have your finger through the ring for a shape like this to be incredibly beneficial. Essentially, it behaves like the schilt of a federschwert (blunt training sword with a flared base of its blade for others that are reading). It would keep your opponent's blade against the strong of your sword, while keeping it a safer distance from your fleshy hand bits.
Great video! Thanks for all that you do!
Gee, I really liked that 800 year old sword I saw in the museum today. I think I'll go home and make one. 😲
At 10:54, one can clearly hear the rattling of the pieces because everything is do loose on the original.
I wonder if the original inspired Boromir's sword in the Lord of the Rings films.
It would be interesting where Peter Lyon got the inspiration for Boromir's sword. If the blade shape is because of the want of a good general thrusting and cutting sword it would make perfect sense for the character and Gondor. Boromir was a very practical character very experienced in war and would know what he likes and wants in a sword.
Boromirs sword i think is quite typical early style bastard sword. So there are lots of swords that might have inspired it in museums. Swords like this would also be without later style guard etc.
The resemblance is only VERY superficial, mostly both have a broad, triangular blade and the curved down guard.
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Boromir's weapon doesn't have the additional parts to the guard, and the design of any single part of the sword is different, from the fuller in the main blade over the construction of the guard, the form and material of the grip and the form and shape of the pommel. They are nothing alike.
Love these comparison videos. Capwell seems like such a chill guy. Was the sound from just one mic btw? If so the end leveling result was really nice considering.
I feel like whoever did the modeling for the Dark Souls series used this particular sword as inspiration for the "Broadsword" in the game. It has the same thick but slightly shorter blade and arching crossguard, though I don't think it has any of the rings on it.
Reason 4,297 why Tod is #1 in my heart.
You're bloody good Tod.
Would be interesting to see a backtracking thingie on that blade using Peter Johnssons ideas on proprtions of the sword. I think it could be a lovely mid 15th c armingsword.
Beautiful sword
it was on a cold steel blade. it was very strange. i have never done it again. now i will use chlorine granuals (used for pools) to get a bit of pitting if i really need to.
Beautiful work Tod.
Seems short for a longsword, no?
Tod's is better than the original, as usual.
@@tods_workshop: Do you know if the tang has been elongated to accommodate a hand-and-a-half grip? Because to me it looks like an Oakschott XV...or perhaps XVIII. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakeshott_typology
Anyway...congrats on the beautiful reproduction!!!
Considering the length of the hlit, the length of the blade and the overall proportions, would this sword be considered as a hand-and-a-half sword/"bastard sword"?
Such a beautiful sword
Very interesting sword, and beautiful reproduction. :)
Awesome, thank you!
The "Fleur de Lis" mark that Dr. Capwell points out looks more like the three-ball emblem of a pawnbroker than it does a Fleur de Lis.
The measuring the process the making of the outcome all would be great
The grip cord may have only been done for show, as it may have only ever been a wall hanger?
Thank you, an interesting sword indeed, and as many I tip my hat to you Mr Tod
Fascinating stuff!
Around two years ago, I understood that it is pointless trying to replicate originals as they were originally. If the reproduction is really top notch, it is much better (and costs much more) than the original. This is the case for the spring steel and the heat treating. The only thing that is all too rare is the research on the original specimens.
Amazing content! Thanks for this.
I did have a question if you have a minute. i try to "antique" the weapons i have made or repos that i have purchased. do you ever do that to your own pieces?
one odd thing that happened to me, experimenting with pitting a blade. i used muriatic acid and to my horror I heard almost like ice cracking and found that the blade had developed hairline fractures. of course I've never done it again but do you have any idea what what the physics would be behind that?
Maybe it was a family who was on their way up, or on their way down, and asked for the blade to be reused, but didn't have much money to spend. But wanted to seem like they were higher in status than they were, again either because they were trying to hold on to their former status, or establish themselves as new status. And so the sword was quickly and roughly redone, and the back side was left relatively unfinished as it only would be worn or hung up, lol.
Also, I've recently been giving serious thought to commissioning one of these sorts of sword for exactly the reasons Toby discusses at around 4.30, I'd love one!
you would go with an arming sword over a short sword or seax?
@@Ugly_German_Truths Well I wouldn't go for a seax when I'm doing late fifteenth century!
I'd love to be as interested in anything as you guys are in swords.
My thoughts are the width of the blade may relate to the size of the users hand griping the blade my guess is that finger hook is a way to direct the grip maybe for added confidence knowing that hook is a last point of leverage when working with the guard giving a opponents edge something to run off above the fingers just thinking of why. I think the forger may have had an experience alone the missing finger line. May have used the hook as a selling point for a rough swords I like it thanks for telling me man. Old Vs new loved both comparisons
Great video, thanks.
There are so many Phd's that could be written on that collection.
That indeed is a really great idea.
Just seeing this video. This sword looks like someone wanted to combine the traditional medieval sword with a roman gladius. A thrusting point with a broad blade and a solid slashing edge.
Fantastic video! Towards the end (19:36) you mention constructing a Landsknecht style scabbard for Nathan Robinson - I tried to track down pictures of that piece myself but sadly I came up empty handed. Do you or Nathan have pictures of that scabbard anywhere?, as I'd love to see it!
Wow, its as lovely as I'd imagined it would be. Excellent craftsmanship, and thank you for taking time out of your day to throw me the link!
tobias is SO COOL
Another great sword but where is the making of?
So much skill
I thought at the beginning when the museum curator was talking about it basically being a composite wallhanger that he was kinda taking the piss out of him. I'm glad it didn't turn out to be so :)
I would think they did not start their day with this video's content, but had a long talk before doing the recording, where such things would definitely have come up and they could decide what parts of the discussion to take over into the video made at the end of their meeting. A bit of showmanship? Sure, but would you risk to waste an hour or more to film a talk that ends up not having all the information and thoughts you'd want it to have? After all Todd is a movie armorer, he knows how valuable a bit of make belief is.
I wonder if the sword is left handed or the hilt at least might that make the finger ring useable? Maybe not to put your finger all the way through but just to seat your finger
This is great stuff.
God that's a nice sword.
A very nice sword, the "Finger-ring" is not really my style, but I wouldn't mind having one without.
Or as they say, better to have it and not need it, then to need it not have it
Carpenters will change a handle on a hammer. Grips on guns are changed. A drill bit fits a T-handle, an 'egg beater', or a power drill. A good proven blade just might be refitted over time, and custom fitted to an individual.
I'm curious whether this content is demonetized?
Exquisite!!
Tod, fan of your work but gotta be honest. These vids are my least fave but only because of the presentation area. Maybe they have a well lit meeting room or similar?
Sword with a snake on the hilt? Blackadder confirmed.
Did he say Julian Assange at like 13:30?
Brescia Spadona when?
wot is social class of Quillon dagger
Whys it so short?
What's the chance that it was a blade from a broken longsword just re-manufactured into a good looking wall hanger by a guy looking to make a profit from some well to do collector that may not have been super keen to be 100% historically accurate? I always suspected that the dirk originated from someone re-fitting a broken family blade, into a functional tool to keep it "alive" so to speak.
ring wraith swords from LOTR!
What exactly does the Wallace Collection mean? It sounds like it means William Wallace Collection but well it seems to not be the case. Is it a wing in the museum? Is it the name of the original curator? Is it a Collection of stuff that supposedly belonged to that period? Is it stuff that at one time or another was.. Idk. Suppose I mean WHY the name Wallace Collection?
It's from the name of the family who made/donated the collection:
The Wallace Collection is a national museum which displays the wonderful works of art collected in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries by the first four Marquesses of Hertford and Sir Richard Wallace, the son of the 4th Marquess. It was bequeathed to the British nation by Sir Richard's widow, Lady Wallace, in 1897.
www.wallacecollection.org/collection/
Type 16 oh. Makes sense now. Thank you.
No problem. Have a good day.
William "Braveheart" Wallace owned all of the items in the collection. They were taken from him and made into an exhibit when he was executed in 1995.
@@lordmonty9421 I think you'll find it was back in 1998, when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
Didn’t know jimmy kimmel was into swords
Swords hilt wobbly? THEN GET IT FIXED OR RESTORED! Unless that hurts the value of the sword...
Why not make finnish swords. Our culture was destpyed by christiany. Did you know that ultra rare vikings ulfberh swords are found second most in finland. Our history is being supressed. Why sagas tell that anchient finnish kingdom made viking countries.
"small pommel from something else." Let's be HONEST about Toby Capwell here: He's a third rate historian to be making such solid claims like that without the right knowledge. It's a coin toss whether or not these kind of statements are correct, and that is the unfortunate hallmark of a researcher dominated by his own ego, probably carrying a huge chip on his shoulder from some negative treatment he received earlier in his life. I like Toby Capwell as a person, but I have to be upfront honest with my assessment of his professional opinion. The fact that he did not attempt to pursue the makers mark on the blade yet speaks so definitively about its make, truly speaks volumes about his ego, and it is rather unfortunate for the historian community. He should have done his job. Realize that this is just one man's opinion on another, so take that for what it's worth, and again I like Toby Capwell as a human being. I just grow tired of seeing so many others in the similar line of work like various types of scientists and the like that equally make ego-based claims that are not able to be known, yet the put them forward as casual fact. When a researcher glazes over an important factor based on their opinion and expects you to except it as CASUAL fact, like "no big deal, this is just how it is." you are certain that this researcher is kind of a hack.