T6 Medium | The Lost Sherman Prototype
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- The US Army found themselves outmatched in 1940, as Germany showed the true power of armour to the world. In response to this, the US rushed to design what would become the M3 Lee and M4 Sherman. Somewhere between those vehicles lies the Medium Tank T6, a prototype vehicle that would eventually become the Sherman. Only one was built, and nobody knows where it went...
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The T-6 may not have entered it combat but it sure did do a lot of important service for the war effort. Great job telling the story.
The US referred to the M4 as an M4. The designation "Sherman" was added by Great Britain. All US tanks in British service were given names of US Generals, hence Lee, Grant and Sherman. The US forces then started using the British designation.
I have read that Churchill couldn't remember all the different alpha numerical designations so he asked for the vehicles to be named so he could remember them easier.
@@Anlushac11 Never heard that. My understanding is the US had 2 versions of the M3 tank so the UK to help distinguish, called one a Lee and the other a Grant.
@@KP-viking88 The Grant was a British modification
They removed the machine gun coupala from the Lee and a few other modifications
@@demanischaffer Both variants were produced in the US and both variants saw service with British forces. The names Lee and Grant were given to distinguish between the 2, as per my original post
@@KP-viking88 The M3 medium was the US designation. The Brits named the US version the Lee. The Brits didn't like the radio operator down in the hull. In British tanks the radio was typically in the turret next to the commander. The Brits designed and cast their own turret for the M3 that removed the commander's MG turret and added a turret bustle to mount the radio in. These M3's with the new turret were designated Grants.
Looks like Brits designed the Grant turrets but the US produced the British specified turret, over 500 in my home state in Hammond Indiana. There was a lot of arguing between the Brit designers and the US designers. The Brits wanted a number of Grant turret features added or changed, the US was reluctant to change anything so they could finalize the design and start production.
Building in extra room for a hypothetical larger engine is the exact kind of logistical consideration that won WW2
Good video exploring subjects not covered by The Chieftain or The Tank Museum!
I'm pretty sure The Chieftain has covered the T6 in one of his videos. Maybe not as a separate subject but as part of the development of the M4. Too many videos to search though.
@@johnknapp952 No, I've not really spent much time on the specifics of T6.
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In a way, the T6 is also the predecessor to the Ram series of tanks. May I suggest a possible future video on the early series of British tanks such as the Vickers Mk IV and Carden Lloyd tankette?
What do you find interesting about these tanks in particular?
@@RedWrenchFilms I've become very interested recently about inter-war tanks and their doctrines used by countries like Britain and Hungary. Mostly because those same/similar tanks and doctrines laid the groundwork for how those countries preform during WW2. (Sorry for the late reply and if it's a bit vague)
Just watched and immediately subscribed because I liked very much this video and just looked a couple of days ago looked your video on the "failure" of the RAM tank that was very interesting as well. Although I know quite well the story of the Sherman and it's enormous production I never seen or heard about the lost T6 prototype let alone the photos of the prototype. I was very surprised that there was no hatch for the assistant driver but a dome-like in its place! Luckily it was not putted in production with this configuration and I didn't know that it was originally intended to have side hatches. Unfortunately little thought to preserve the T6 prototype was ever done so only the first production Sherman named "Michael" has been preserved at Bovington museum, in this the British has been more historical minded! Good job and looking forward to see your new videos 👍👍👍
Same lol
Bovington have the M4 prototype named 'Michael'
That isn't actually the prototype, Michael was the first Sherman ever sent to the UK. It's a great surviving example of an early Sherman however.
Great vid I enjoyed seeing the link from M 2 and the attempt to keep as many existing parts from existing M 3 production as possible
The T6 was originally meant to be the M3 Medium and this design was from the mid 30s and was meant to replace the incredibly outdated M2 Medium. This changed when America sent some of its M2s to help Britain and their performance was lacking. The US needed a new tank not only for themselves but for others as well. The US ARMY GROUND FORCES wasn’t going to rush the design T6. Therefore a new tank was quickly drawn up to serve as a stop-gap vehicle until the T6 finished development. The T6 then became the M4.
Tactical coordination by radio was a big factor in German victories in Poland and France. Interesting that US AFV radios proved to be the best, hands-down.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the T6 was scrapped. It occupies something of a strange position. It's not one of the final versions with battlefield fame that might excite people. And, at the same time, it's not in its original form because it's been used as a test vehicle, so it's no longer "pure". It's not the prototype, anymore. It WAS the prototype; but now it's got all kinds of mods.
It might have had better odds of preservation if they'd made it, tested it, figured out what they didn't like, and then mothballed it as it was instead of using it to test new parts.
After the T28 showing up - you never know, but it is highly unlikely at this point. I find it fascinating that the T28 was forgotten for so long and nothing happened to it; makes me think that maybe the last person to drive/ park it made sure it was in a place no likely to be found hoping the it’s value would be realized as an important piece of history when found in the future.
Someone at Aberdeen proving grounds should haul all prototypes off of the the proving grounds and put them in a museum
Another outstanding video and presentation.
I found this through a link and I’m not disappointed great video.
Great video on a forgotten tank!
Thank you.
I swear to god I've SEEN a photo (1970s?...it was in color but it had that sepia type tone over it) of The T6 at Aberdeen before, it was completely rotten but compared to other tanks there it seemed fine...wonder what happened to it?
Thank you1 Outstanding history that had been overlooked.
Imagine that the military considering the cost never happens now. That extra front armour could've saved a lot of lives.
Really interesting video, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
All WoT Player who grind the US Tank line love the T6 , because it replaces the horrible M3 Lee, the grave of the seven brave.😜
Maybe should fly a drone around Aberdeen and see what's out there. 😂 Still a lot of unexploded ordnance...
cool video, well done!
Unlike the Panther tank recently confiscated by German authorities, it is unlikely the T6 is in someone's basement.
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0:46, correct me if i am wrong but I am sure I counted 5 crew members, did you forgot the radio operator and the driver?
I'm talking about the turret here I think. 3 man turret, 5 man crew.
Most of the German tanks in France in 1940 were Mark i's (2X7.92 machine guns) and Mark II' (20mm gun), The Mark IV of the period was armed with a low velocity 75mm howitzer - not an antitank gun. Here are the numbers Panzer I, 554
Panzer II, 920
Panzer III, 349
Panzer IV, 280
Czech built Panzer 35T, 118
Czech built Panzer 38T, 207
Command Tanks, various types , 154
For a total of 2,582 tanks fielded, .France had over 3200 tanks, the BEF had around 200. The difference was the superior German doctrine, not number or quality of tanks
Note that the Mark III of 1940 was armed with a 37mm gun - the same as the US medium and light tanks of the period. The M4 was given a 75mm, because Ordnance realized the unending race between gun and armor would demand it by the time the M4 came into service
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Haha I always talk way too quickly but during a phone call it's even worse! Being from Ireland definitely doesn't help...
Thank you
T6E1 grizzly when it sees a M4 sherman: *PAIN*
Great video , thank you !
Interesting content well synced to the images.
I never knew about this particular tank
Drawing showed five tank crew?
cross reference with ram and montreal railcar where it was built nyab too
Great video
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Olde tanks never die. They just rust away.
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But the Canadians produced the Ram well in advance with arguably a better gun, the ubiquitous 6 pdr.
The Ram was not a better design though. The turret ring was much smaller. The 6 pounder was a better hole-puncher than the 75mm but had no HE ammo (until late in the war when it didn't matter any more). The transition from 57mm to 75mm was one of the main reasons why British armor units were re-equipping with M4s as fast as possible during 1942-43. By mid-1943 the only tanks left with 6 pounders (57mm) were Churchills, and the last mark of the Churchill had the 75mm as well.
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that cringe intro "hundreds of panzer 3 and 4s" yeah no they barely had those in poland where the armor failed hard in many respects and france was carried out by early designs and tanks like the 35t and 38t and "ultra modern" not really german tanks were often worse then competitors , the part where they generally were good were the radios and not using single or two man turrets and really not much else at every other point there was parity and advantage for other nations tanks
Even in Poland in 1939 Germany did have "hundreds" of Pz IIIs and Pz IVs - over 300 in fact. By the time we get to France in 1940, they had over 600 of these vehicles. In both of these conflicts the Pz III and IV outnumbered the 35T and 38T so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Additionally, they were incredibly capable and modern vehicles for reasons I talk about in the video and reasons you have actually repeated. Tanks with a single, large calibre gun in a 3 man, fully rotating turret, fully equipped with radios. That was ultra modern for 1940. Maybe not the "best" in terms of firepower or protection but this isn't War Thunder. In the next few years almost every tanking nation would follow their example, so seems pretty modern to me.
@@RedWrenchFilms He must have thought you were a werhb.
The lack of creativity in US model names is almost as cringe as the German cocaine party naming schemes
"hanz what if we changed the name for the third time this year. EXCELLENT, I WILL POUR THE YEGERMEISTER"
M-3 Stuart was a light tank, not medium.
The M3 Medium I'm talking about is the M3 Lee.
Sadly I’m sure I have seen that exact tank being used as a target for air gunnery training years ago ( now I start the mission of finding it ugh lol )
It would actually be a huge deal if you managed to find it!
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