I don’t have any coding skills but I built a motorized masking system with a roller blind motor. When I detect the black bars I push a button on the remote to move the masking panels into place. I posted a little video of it in action here on TH-cam. Masking makes such a difference for perceived contrast I highly recommend people consider it.
It's great that everything is finally coming together for you. I wanted to do this for the longest time, but dont have the right setup for it or the funds lol. Way to stick with it. Just the satisfaction that you did it all yourself. And everything works is probably more rewarding than the benefit of no gray bars. Great job tony
I feel like if you released the screen + coded system you'd have a few customers, I for one would absolutely be interested in getting this installed in my room as I've been debating between aspect ratios for a long time and this would solve all the issues 😂
This is definitely an option, however there is still a bit to go to make it a viable product for someone to have in their home, especially the stability testing needed or an easy way to restart the system which i am close to finishing. I am definitly open to the suggestion though, as I do have some plans brewing in the new year!
Tony, would you mind sharing what material you are using to mask the black bars? I have a scope screen and over scan the projector so to fill the screen. This leaves grey bars projected above and below the screen. I am considering covering the front wall of my HT with light absorption material to counter this.
Yea this is kind of ridiculous. Motorized masking is cool and all but goddamn, the diminishing returns would be way too much for me. Grey bars annoy me too but not 20k annoying.
@BuildMontage Me too. Cost me less than $50. Not motorized or anything, but even that is doable with easily obtained already-existing tech meant for blinds or curtains. How can they possibly justify $20k? Even if it has both horizontal and vertical masks, and an App that controls it, with preprogrammed modes. Considering you can get a mind-blowing laser projector for like $15k. I can see why they charge so much for a laser projector, but some motorized panels with an App for $20k? Common now.
That's quite the exaggeration on the cost of purchasing a masking screen. SeymourAV Proscenium masking screens start at $3700USD shipped, up to the $6000USD range. Much more affordable than you're letting on.
I'm finding the placement of the rear and surround speakers odd. In my opinion they seem too high and the tweeters are not at ear level or at least pointing to the main listening position. My understanding is that you'll be hearing the off axis response from rear and surround speakers. Also I think the headrests of the seats are too high and will block the sound of the speakers. In my living room which just has a Samsung soundbar with rear speakers, I made sure my reclining sofa also has power headrests that fold down and don't block the sound from the rear speakers. I'm wondering whether you are getting good advice from your installer.
I believe those are 80x 60 or 80x 80 dispersion so its completely fine, but for that perfect point it just needs to invert speakers that would cake easy
Just noticed what I think are wide surrounds and I also think they are too high and to me they looked to be mounted with the tweeter pointing above the listening position. I noticed they are angled but not pointing down. I reckon I could do a better job for a lot cheaper. It wouldn't look as good as this theatre but it would sound better.
In my opinion for the cost of the Trinnov, I could put together a better sounding theatre. I observed your room looks to be treated so I would keep that but ditch the whole system including the Trinnov.
Everything in the room is within spec. I am the installer and have placed things within the room according to the constraints of the dimensions. The dispersion of the HF also feels perfectly fine, and the Trinnov as well with the optomizer does an incredible job at time aligning everything to the seated position. It's easy to make judgements without understanding everything that has gone into the design, and the truth is, for where this room started, you would have to see it and experience it to understand why it's been done this way. But of course, I'm very used to detractors so it doesn't bother me at all :) I hope you enjoy your system and it makes you happy because that's all that matters in the end. This is the best I could have done with the dimensions I am stuck with - also , video can be misleading. I could invert the speakers as well, but it won't really make much of a difference - I have tried both ways :)
You are very talented, brother. I hope you cherish your I.t gifts. Be interesting to hear your thoughts in Transfromers 5. That has an impossible amount of ratio shifts through out, it seemed counter intuitive. 😊😅. GREAT work.
For the masking algorithm I would just batch process my files with whatever algo handbrake uses to detect crop out black bars, and then hardcode the aspect in with each file, no need to detect any files on the fly. Would work just fine with my Plex setup
I love the MadVR and have the HTPC version running in my room now, but, not the budget, I just don't like the manipulation of the image. I like to watch in the aspect ratio of the director's intention... it is so much better for me when I watch IMAX and then I watch scope... on the same screen without compromise.
@@BuildMontage cool, will you hook up your equipment in the HD Fury or the Trinov and just have your projector connected to the HD Fury? I have the VRoom as well and I haven't hooked up mine yet. I need to hook it up.
I’m undecided at this stage I may connect everything to the Trinnov first and then single out to the HTPC but that creates audio lag so I need to solve that problem next.
As somone who frequently goes to the cinema, it always irks me that most locations have disabled thier masking systems and I have to see grey bars. If there's a miniscule chance I'll be able to own a home theater one day, masking system is a top priority, if I can go for a projector screen.
Great video and it's awesome to see it all coming together. How noisy are the actuators when they are moving? I imagine they most of the noise is "masked" (hah get it?) since the actuators are behind the wall.
Well regardless what you may think there is no issue with how it sounds. I had lower backed chairs before and it pretty much is the same experience… either way this is how I have it for now. I may change the chairs up soon as I don’t want to wait for the delivery >.
Great video. Love the masking: For my money, screen masking is the most frequently over-looked and under-appreciated aspect of home theatre by a majority of AV TH-camrs. As far as I'm concerned, it's one of the non-negotiable essentials, love what you've done with yours. EDIT: I typed this whilst watching - I now realise your masking actually shifts *during* VAR films, which is kind of incredible. When directors implement this well, I'm sure it's great (eg Maverick ...although I do think it was a massive mistake for the first five-ten minutes of that film to be opened up), but with one of those later Michael Bay Transformers films your masking would be going up & down like a yo-yo! (Easy & sensible solution though - don't watch Michael Bay Transformers films..!) Cheers, and merry Christmas.
Hey man, thanks :) Yes the shifting inside the movie was my grail target and I was able to get it done! It's not perfect but nothing ever is, and it's more than accurate enough for you to enjoy it during a movie. Joker 2 has 3 AR changes and it handled them all perfectly except one time where it detected incorrectly but I didn't notice right away as it was only a small crop change. So, if I refine it further and can package it up into something "sellable" I will but I feel more people are against the idea than are for it based on the comments.
@@BuildMontage It's a superb idea of yours, and brilliantly executed. I kind of get a little depressed at how much MadVR has been promoting its "non-linear stretch" thing, and how quite a few people seem to have embraced that feature - your solution is massively superior in my opiniom. I'd definitely love to see a video going into more detail on this, you should be enormously proud of it.
@@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker Thank you :) I just feel really passionately about no compromises when it comes to watching as the director intended. I do love MadVR/Lumagen for their tonemapping abilities but I don't apply any of the enhancement features, just the pixelshader tonemapping for HDR to SDR so you get a brighter image with better accuracy - but no other changes, you get to watch it in the correct aspect without grey bars. I will definitely be doing a video on the system in more detail in the new year when I have everything setup in the room :)
I will aim toward that goal but it's in so many different components right now that I need to simplify it and minaturise it... if I do, I will definitely post about it on the channel. I will also be doing a full deep dive into the masking system and show it up close in a separate video for those interested.
The screen masking is very cool, and the subs should be an interesting video. Question on your riser, what dimensions did you go? I'm building a house with a 4.3m x 5.45m theatre room and was thinking of going for a 30cm high, and 170cm deep riser. Hopefully that is big enough to comfortably have a second row, but not too big that the front row isn't in a good spot. I also noticed your projector is mounted on what looks like a floating shelf. Any details or videos with what you have done there? Cheers!
Yes 30cm high is better than what I have which is 17cm - but - I have a depth of 180cm which works out will. Youre room is slightly bigger than mine so it should be fine. The shelf for my projector I over engineered it to hold the weight - I didnt make a video on how I did it but it was very time consuming to get it all in place and hold the heavy beast of a JVC.... Make sure you drill into studs and use heavy duty anchors.
Well if it’s affordable I would be willing to buy the software and the motorized equipment as a do it yourself kit… The market may not be big but some people are into the masking. Cool video!
That's really interesting as it's actually just lower than it should be. When reclined, my feet are just under the bottom bezel which means I can't raise my knees up. I should have had the screen about 1 foot higher to make it more comfortable but being most of what I watch is in cinemascope the angles are actually perfect.
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I would be very interested in that either paying to have it installed or pay for the program and materials👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽❤️❤️❤️ but please make it affordable! 🤷🏽♂️
Even when you go all in and get a masking screen, depending on which control system you use the software might still be lacking. I wound up having to write the software myself too. If you want to stress test your algorithm try playing “Everything Everywhere All At Once”!
Thanks for the suggestion - I have stress tested this a LOT using Top Gun Maverick and other movies, like Intersteller. It doesn't peform 100% which is a given but it works really well. I use Home Assistant and as such I coded my own dashboard and control system so when I get the Unfolded Circle remote, I will also be able to control it through there :)
So I am 4:20 in, I have had to stop the video to write this. About a minute ago at the curtains, after seeing the wave forming setup. I came to the conclusion that you would probably take my award for best "creator" home cinema and best home cinema journey! With the self coding of the masking, yes you definitely get those accolades. Edging youthman for the journey and Shane Lee for the cinema. I remember your Krix baffle wall, the issue you had with room modes before adding that extra sub, I remember the progression of the room before the Krix wall and now you have done it all again! The addition of wave forming and all the trick bits! I am in awe of what you have achieved! Congratulations and Here's to 2025! I look forward to what it brings for the channel
Man, high praise, it's super kind of you. I don't see myself in competition with either of those guys, I love Youthman and Shane's channels, both are doing it full time, where as I work as well so TH-cam is an aspiration for me more than work... Hopefully I will get my other videos out soon, especially waveforming, once my Trinnov is back in action. Thanks for the support and see you in 2025!
@BuildMontage yeah it's not about competition and I think in my head both Shane and youthman have held the same accolade 🤣, it just an appreciation of the hobby and yours (and there's) application of it! I get such a kick and I am thoroughly entertained by what you guys achieve. It keeps me going and striving for what I am going to do next. Thanks to all of you for the effort you put in for both yourselves and us the viewers! Again all the best and see you in 2025!
About your masking system: I find it cool that you could come up with a DIY project that you're satisfied with, and at a low cost. I just don't think I could live with the distraction of having it move during the movie. When you see an IMAX film with different aspect ratios, there are no moving panels: letterbox bars are the norm. Probably because it would annoy the hell out of moviegoers. But hey: I get that you're proud of your kit. I also get the indifference of other home cinema enthusiasts: black bars are way less annoying than moving panels.
Oh it's definitely not annoying. 99% of movies don't have shifting aspect ratios, so the real advantage is going from the movie poster wall without a crop, to a nice crop before the movie even starts. So you don't even notice it happen. It was difficult to film because it happens way to quick in most cases. Also, the beauty of the system is I made it so you can simply have a manual mode even for the shifting movies, either disable it or just put it to one aspect ratio and enjoy the movie. It's all about choices, and for me, I love having the pure immersion during a scope movie even with the awesome black levels from JVC. It turned out exactly how I wanted it to :)
Your masking system is really amazing. Especially since you have it working with a drop screen! More than a decade ago, I built a masking system over a fixed on-wall screen. It was all manual and usually required two people to turn wingnuts to lock in the top and bottom masks. Back then, movies didn't change aspect ratio mid-roll, so it was not as much of a bother as it sounds. That, and I only used the system for movies...no TV programs. I agree with you that adding a masking system makes a massive difference. I'm surprised that more folks are not interested in licensing your solution. Perhaps they have never experienced the results first-hand outside of a commercial cinema. I have considered doing a masking system for a new theater room I'm building, but I have to go with a drop screen. I had assumed that masking and drop screens were incompatible, but you have proven that wrong. I'm impressed!
Been a follower for awhile, its amazing to see all the progress of your room and whats its turned into. Glad you filmed everything and brought us on this journey with you!
I don't get into arguments with people trying to justify my decisions. If you don't like what I've done, move on. I never push my opinions on others either but I don't know what "ungrounded" statements I made about the audio in my room in this video. You are making assumptions without actually seeing the speaker layout or understanding the constraints in the room and compromises that needed to be made which do not diminish the experience. Krix/Trinnov is a superb combination and I have the speaker either in tollerance or close enough to it that the Trinnov can compensate for it with the optimizer. I'm happy and that's all that matters to me!
Nice masking system! I made a basic masking system myself, with similar actuators and arduino. IR from Harmony remote to trigger the different aspects. My idea for auto detection was to add a number of light sensors to the main screen or a 2nd small LCD screen to detect the black bars. The prototype small LCD worked ok at abasic level, but i haven't got around to implementing it.
Thats awesome! My system works totally off an algorithm analysing the feed through a capture card, but I love hearing how others are implementing it. My hope is to make the screen and masking and system all in one - which is going to be no small feat.
Thanks :) That's the exact reason I did it, so I didn't have to manipulate the image and just allow it to display without grey bars. The irony is that this system could also do side masking as well with a few modifications :)
I enjoy the video clip about your masking you did a great job and does make difference watching movies 🎬 what i learned about it through watching videos. I am looking forward to your next video clip before Christmas 🎄 .
Jesus. Cool trick but this is one helluva lot of effort to just overcome the limited contrast of a projector. And isn’t this a JVC? Aren’t the black levels good enough? Maybe big TV time?
Yes, it isn't for everyone but for me, it has brought me that extra little bit of immersion which I was craving. JVC is greate 100% but even that slight grey bar annoyed me - so I killed a fly with a machine gun :)
I don’t have any coding skills but I built a motorized masking system with a roller blind motor. When I detect the black bars I push a button on the remote to move the masking panels into place. I posted a little video of it in action here on TH-cam. Masking makes such a difference for perceived contrast I highly recommend people consider it.
That's awesome! I wonder if I've seen it - feel free to link it here.
It's great that everything is finally coming together for you. I wanted to do this for the longest time, but dont have the right setup for it or the funds lol. Way to stick with it. Just the satisfaction that you did it all yourself. And everything works is probably more rewarding than the benefit of no gray bars. Great job tony
Yes this is true, it became an obsession for me to solve and took me around 8 months to get it all done :)
All coming together nicely. Looks great. Are they 12inch Krix Subs at rear?
Yes they are the Vokcanix Slim
I feel like if you released the screen + coded system you'd have a few customers, I for one would absolutely be interested in getting this installed in my room as I've been debating between aspect ratios for a long time and this would solve all the issues 😂
This is definitely an option, however there is still a bit to go to make it a viable product for someone to have in their home, especially the stability testing needed or an easy way to restart the system which i am close to finishing. I am definitly open to the suggestion though, as I do have some plans brewing in the new year!
Tony, would you mind sharing what material you are using to mask the black bars? I have a scope screen and over scan the projector so to fill the screen. This leaves grey bars projected above and below the screen. I am considering covering the front wall of my HT with light absorption material to counter this.
Sure: amzn.to/3P9G4K8
@ you are a champion. Thank you for sharing mate.
Masking system that costs $20,000?? I think you can find a better deal somewhere else lol.
Yea this is kind of ridiculous. Motorized masking is cool and all but goddamn, the diminishing returns would be way too much for me. Grey bars annoy me too but not 20k annoying.
Seymour screens does motorized masking for a much lower price
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Yep I built my own!
@BuildMontage Me too. Cost me less than $50. Not motorized or anything, but even that is doable with easily obtained already-existing tech meant for blinds or curtains.
How can they possibly justify $20k? Even if it has both horizontal and vertical masks, and an App that controls it, with preprogrammed modes. Considering you can get a mind-blowing laser projector for like $15k. I can see why they charge so much for a laser projector, but some motorized panels with an App for $20k? Common now.
That's quite the exaggeration on the cost of purchasing a masking screen. SeymourAV Proscenium masking screens start at $3700USD shipped, up to the $6000USD range. Much more affordable than you're letting on.
@@ballstadt not here in Australia it’s not. And not for motorised masking. It’s substantially more.
Looking good!
Thanks Shane!
I'm finding the placement of the rear and surround speakers odd. In my opinion they seem too high and the tweeters are not at ear level or at least pointing to the main listening position. My understanding is that you'll be hearing the off axis response from rear and surround speakers. Also I think the headrests of the seats are too high and will block the sound of the speakers. In my living room which just has a Samsung soundbar with rear speakers, I made sure my reclining sofa also has power headrests that fold down and don't block the sound from the rear speakers. I'm wondering whether you are getting good advice from your installer.
I believe those are 80x 60 or 80x 80 dispersion so its completely fine, but for that perfect point it just needs to invert speakers that would cake easy
Just noticed what I think are wide surrounds and I also think they are too high and to me they looked to be mounted with the tweeter pointing above the listening position. I noticed they are angled but not pointing down.
I reckon I could do a better job for a lot cheaper. It wouldn't look as good as this theatre but it would sound better.
In my opinion for the cost of the Trinnov, I could put together a better sounding theatre. I observed your room looks to be treated so I would keep that but ditch the whole system including the Trinnov.
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Everything in the room is within spec. I am the installer and have placed things within the room according to the constraints of the dimensions. The dispersion of the HF also feels perfectly fine, and the Trinnov as well with the optomizer does an incredible job at time aligning everything to the seated position. It's easy to make judgements without understanding everything that has gone into the design, and the truth is, for where this room started, you would have to see it and experience it to understand why it's been done this way. But of course, I'm very used to detractors so it doesn't bother me at all :) I hope you enjoy your system and it makes you happy because that's all that matters in the end. This is the best I could have done with the dimensions I am stuck with - also , video can be misleading. I could invert the speakers as well, but it won't really make much of a difference - I have tried both ways :)
You are very talented, brother. I hope you cherish your I.t gifts. Be interesting to hear your thoughts in Transfromers 5. That has an impossible amount of ratio shifts through out, it seemed counter intuitive. 😊😅. GREAT work.
Very nice room, what is the screen size?
The room itself is 3.6m x 4.6m x 3m
@BuildMontage and the screen?
@@gustavoesquivel6116 sorry I misread, it's 130" acoustic transparent roll down screen in 16:9 Aspect.
For the masking algorithm I would just batch process my files with whatever algo handbrake uses to detect crop out black bars, and then hardcode the aspect in with each file, no need to detect any files on the fly. Would work just fine with my Plex setup
@@dolbyman that could work for your personal library but this system works with any source :)
@@BuildMontagedoes it have to run on the same computer, or does it analyze the hdmi signal so it can work with any device??
It runs on a computer but sends to the arduino to shift the motors wirelessly.
Great job. It looks great
Congratulations you hit 50k
Appreciate it!
Looks really good! Well done. I also ordered the Valencia Monza's for my home theater. Stylish looking chair.
its not big enough, loud enough, and bright enough. We need GameChangers Boys, not same old same old
You will love them!
Hey mate.
Why don't you like the madvr/processor method through non linear stretch?
Cost, or you've tried it, and too many artifacts?
I love the MadVR and have the HTPC version running in my room now, but, not the budget, I just don't like the manipulation of the image. I like to watch in the aspect ratio of the director's intention... it is so much better for me when I watch IMAX and then I watch scope... on the same screen without compromise.
Looking good. I do have a question. Since you are upgrading your Trinov to a 2.1 board how will you hook up your HD Fury? Thanks again.
Yes I will as I will still be using the HTPC madvr which requires if :)
@@BuildMontage cool, will you hook up your equipment in the HD Fury or the Trinov and just have your projector connected to the HD Fury? I have the VRoom as well and I haven't hooked up mine yet. I need to hook it up.
I’m undecided at this stage I may connect everything to the Trinnov first and then single out to the HTPC but that creates audio lag so I need to solve that problem next.
@@BuildMontage got it, trying to decide myself. My Arcam has a 2.1 board and I am running Dirac.
@ I think it’s worth doing depending on what you’re trying to achieve
hi Tony great job, I'm in love with your screen, I would love to have a screen like yours mate, once again great job, ignore the negative comments.
I appreciate the kind words of encouragement :)
As somone who frequently goes to the cinema, it always irks me that most locations have disabled thier masking systems and I have to see grey bars. If there's a miniscule chance I'll be able to own a home theater one day, masking system is a top priority, if I can go for a projector screen.
Yeah this is me... it has to be masked now :)
Great video and it's awesome to see it all coming together.
How noisy are the actuators when they are moving? I imagine they most of the noise is "masked" (hah get it?) since the actuators are behind the wall.
They are pretty quiet. If the movie is playing you definitely can't hear them.
Nice theater What's your dimensions of your room
You can watch a full tour of the room just before the current iteration - however it is 3.6m x 4.6m x3m (high) :)
Making all this effort and then putting seats with high headrests is for me mind blowing.
Destroying the surround sound!
The speakers HF clear the top of the chairs and also when you recline the line of sight hits your ears perfectly.
@ Ears and sound doesn’t function that way.
Well regardless what you may think there is no issue with how it sounds. I had lower backed chairs before and it pretty much is the same experience… either way this is how I have it for now. I may change the chairs up soon as I don’t want to wait for the delivery >.
@@BuildMontage If it works for you, go for it.
Great video. Love the masking: For my money, screen masking is the most frequently over-looked and under-appreciated aspect of home theatre by a majority of AV TH-camrs. As far as I'm concerned, it's one of the non-negotiable essentials, love what you've done with yours. EDIT: I typed this whilst watching - I now realise your masking actually shifts *during* VAR films, which is kind of incredible. When directors implement this well, I'm sure it's great (eg Maverick ...although I do think it was a massive mistake for the first five-ten minutes of that film to be opened up), but with one of those later Michael Bay Transformers films your masking would be going up & down like a yo-yo! (Easy & sensible solution though - don't watch Michael Bay Transformers films..!) Cheers, and merry Christmas.
Hey man, thanks :) Yes the shifting inside the movie was my grail target and I was able to get it done! It's not perfect but nothing ever is, and it's more than accurate enough for you to enjoy it during a movie. Joker 2 has 3 AR changes and it handled them all perfectly except one time where it detected incorrectly but I didn't notice right away as it was only a small crop change. So, if I refine it further and can package it up into something "sellable" I will but I feel more people are against the idea than are for it based on the comments.
@@BuildMontage It's a superb idea of yours, and brilliantly executed. I kind of get a little depressed at how much MadVR has been promoting its "non-linear stretch" thing, and how quite a few people seem to have embraced that feature - your solution is massively superior in my opiniom. I'd definitely love to see a video going into more detail on this, you should be enormously proud of it.
@@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker Thank you :) I just feel really passionately about no compromises when it comes to watching as the director intended. I do love MadVR/Lumagen for their tonemapping abilities but I don't apply any of the enhancement features, just the pixelshader tonemapping for HDR to SDR so you get a brighter image with better accuracy - but no other changes, you get to watch it in the correct aspect without grey bars. I will definitely be doing a video on the system in more detail in the new year when I have everything setup in the room :)
Ignore the nay-sayers! Great job! I would love to see how you did this!
Thank you
This is amazing please make it a product for sale. I need this masking system.
I will aim toward that goal but it's in so many different components right now that I need to simplify it and minaturise it... if I do, I will definitely post about it on the channel. I will also be doing a full deep dive into the masking system and show it up close in a separate video for those interested.
Tony, do you still have your star ceiling or did you do away with that also?
Yes new star ceiling - link to my friend Marty's company in the description. Also have a new video on it coming too!
The screen masking is very cool, and the subs should be an interesting video. Question on your riser, what dimensions did you go? I'm building a house with a 4.3m x 5.45m theatre room and was thinking of going for a 30cm high, and 170cm deep riser. Hopefully that is big enough to comfortably have a second row, but not too big that the front row isn't in a good spot. I also noticed your projector is mounted on what looks like a floating shelf. Any details or videos with what you have done there? Cheers!
Yes 30cm high is better than what I have which is 17cm - but - I have a depth of 180cm which works out will. Youre room is slightly bigger than mine so it should be fine. The shelf for my projector I over engineered it to hold the weight - I didnt make a video on how I did it but it was very time consuming to get it all in place and hold the heavy beast of a JVC.... Make sure you drill into studs and use heavy duty anchors.
Room looking good
Thanks!
hi Tony hope you are well
Thanks, you as well :)
Love your setup❤
Very cool implementation all around Tony! Nice 👍
Thank you!
Id be lining up for that software! Definitely interested
Hopefully if there is enough interest in it I might try to release it as a product.
Nice change to the sign off message 😉
Wait Tony, I hear Sony has new Holodeck technology… better tear all that out…
Looks nice Tony congrats.
HA! Will do!
Well if it’s affordable I would be willing to buy the software and the motorized equipment as a do it yourself kit… The market may not be big but some people are into the masking. Cool video!
If I can make it work I will 100%
+1
Your theatre looks great and it is alot better masking your screen I use two different screens not as good as yours though
It was a crazy passion I had that I know isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Super, super impressive Tony
Appreciate the feedback. I'm very happy with the end result.
@@BuildMontage You should be proud too. You have a skill outside of your hobby that you have been able to tap into to make your hobby even better.
Great build Tony, but for me, that screen is WAY too high, but I guess there wasn't much choice with the masking install...many kudos brother!👍👍
That's really interesting as it's actually just lower than it should be. When reclined, my feet are just under the bottom bezel which means I can't raise my knees up. I should have had the screen about 1 foot higher to make it more comfortable but being most of what I watch is in cinemascope the angles are actually perfect.
Okies, must just be the angle it looks
@BuildMontage
Your HT is awesome love your channel
Thank you for sticking around for over four years :)
Awesome great work!
Appreciate the support!
very impressive
Thank you
👍👍👍👍👍👍 awesome build
Thanks for supporting my channel Nathan :)
I wish I had your patience!
Patience was not a choice haha!
Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
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Congrats!!
I would be very interested in that either paying to have it installed or pay for the program and materials👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽❤️❤️❤️ but please make it affordable! 🤷🏽♂️
It’s definitely a goal I’m aiming for.
Even when you go all in and get a masking screen, depending on which control system you use the software might still be lacking. I wound up having to write the software myself too.
If you want to stress test your algorithm try playing “Everything Everywhere All At Once”!
Thanks for the suggestion - I have stress tested this a LOT using Top Gun Maverick and other movies, like Intersteller. It doesn't peform 100% which is a given but it works really well. I use Home Assistant and as such I coded my own dashboard and control system so when I get the Unfolded Circle remote, I will also be able to control it through there :)
I’d love the Christmas video
Will do mate! Christmas eve Sydney time I will release it :)
Super cool project! Enjoyed watching your journey over the last 2 years…..
Thank you :)
That is nice! Theater is looking great as well. By the way if you feel destroying another theater, hit me up 😁 I got one here for ya.
HAHA!
So I am 4:20 in, I have had to stop the video to write this. About a minute ago at the curtains, after seeing the wave forming setup. I came to the conclusion that you would probably take my award for best "creator" home cinema and best home cinema journey! With the self coding of the masking, yes you definitely get those accolades. Edging youthman for the journey and Shane Lee for the cinema. I remember your Krix baffle wall, the issue you had with room modes before adding that extra sub, I remember the progression of the room before the Krix wall and now you have done it all again! The addition of wave forming and all the trick bits! I am in awe of what you have achieved! Congratulations and Here's to 2025! I look forward to what it brings for the channel
Man, high praise, it's super kind of you. I don't see myself in competition with either of those guys, I love Youthman and Shane's channels, both are doing it full time, where as I work as well so TH-cam is an aspiration for me more than work... Hopefully I will get my other videos out soon, especially waveforming, once my Trinnov is back in action. Thanks for the support and see you in 2025!
@BuildMontage yeah it's not about competition and I think in my head both Shane and youthman have held the same accolade 🤣, it just an appreciation of the hobby and yours (and there's) application of it! I get such a kick and I am thoroughly entertained by what you guys achieve. It keeps me going and striving for what I am going to do next. Thanks to all of you for the effort you put in for both yourselves and us the viewers! Again all the best and see you in 2025!
About your masking system: I find it cool that you could come up with a DIY project that you're satisfied with, and at a low cost. I just don't think I could live with the distraction of having it move during the movie. When you see an IMAX film with different aspect ratios, there are no moving panels: letterbox bars are the norm. Probably because it would annoy the hell out of moviegoers. But hey: I get that you're proud of your kit. I also get the indifference of other home cinema enthusiasts: black bars are way less annoying than moving panels.
Oh it's definitely not annoying. 99% of movies don't have shifting aspect ratios, so the real advantage is going from the movie poster wall without a crop, to a nice crop before the movie even starts. So you don't even notice it happen. It was difficult to film because it happens way to quick in most cases. Also, the beauty of the system is I made it so you can simply have a manual mode even for the shifting movies, either disable it or just put it to one aspect ratio and enjoy the movie. It's all about choices, and for me, I love having the pure immersion during a scope movie even with the awesome black levels from JVC. It turned out exactly how I wanted it to :)
Hisense px3 pro ust video review please
I'd love to but I haven't been contact by Hisense to do any reviews yet.
Your masking system is really amazing. Especially since you have it working with a drop screen!
More than a decade ago, I built a masking system over a fixed on-wall screen. It was all manual and usually required two people to turn wingnuts to lock in the top and bottom masks. Back then, movies didn't change aspect ratio mid-roll, so it was not as much of a bother as it sounds. That, and I only used the system for movies...no TV programs.
I agree with you that adding a masking system makes a massive difference. I'm surprised that more folks are not interested in licensing your solution. Perhaps they have never experienced the results first-hand outside of a commercial cinema.
I have considered doing a masking system for a new theater room I'm building, but I have to go with a drop screen. I had assumed that masking and drop screens were incompatible, but you have proven that wrong. I'm impressed!
It’s amazing how a small change like masking can make such a big difference, right?
Been a follower for awhile, its amazing to see all the progress of your room and whats its turned into. Glad you filmed everything and brought us on this journey with you!
Thank you :) I can see you have been subbed for four years. Thank you :)
😅😅😊😊. Mk
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I'd like to leave this here for a more grounded and objective take on home theatre audio: th-cam.com/video/Z-XeBZnTyRc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l_tDUju6sW3WJ1L1
I don't get into arguments with people trying to justify my decisions. If you don't like what I've done, move on. I never push my opinions on others either but I don't know what "ungrounded" statements I made about the audio in my room in this video. You are making assumptions without actually seeing the speaker layout or understanding the constraints in the room and compromises that needed to be made which do not diminish the experience. Krix/Trinnov is a superb combination and I have the speaker either in tollerance or close enough to it that the Trinnov can compensate for it with the optimizer. I'm happy and that's all that matters to me!
The room looks amazing.
Looks phenomenal buddy. Can’t wait to see the final outcome
Nice masking system! I made a basic masking system myself, with similar actuators and arduino. IR from Harmony remote to trigger the different aspects. My idea for auto detection was to add a number of light sensors to the main screen or a 2nd small LCD screen to detect the black bars. The prototype small LCD worked ok at abasic level, but i haven't got around to implementing it.
Thats awesome! My system works totally off an algorithm analysing the feed through a capture card, but I love hearing how others are implementing it. My hope is to make the screen and masking and system all in one - which is going to be no small feat.
Wow, I congratulate you, it's one of the best ideas I've seen about how a movie should actually look.
Thanks :) That's the exact reason I did it, so I didn't have to manipulate the image and just allow it to display without grey bars. The irony is that this system could also do side masking as well with a few modifications :)
I enjoy the video clip about your masking you did a great job and does make difference watching movies 🎬 what i learned about it through watching videos. I am looking forward to your next video clip before Christmas 🎄 .
Thanks Gary!
Jesus. Cool trick but this is one helluva lot of effort to just overcome the limited contrast of a projector. And isn’t this a JVC? Aren’t the black levels good enough? Maybe big TV time?
Yes, it isn't for everyone but for me, it has brought me that extra little bit of immersion which I was craving. JVC is greate 100% but even that slight grey bar annoyed me - so I killed a fly with a machine gun :)