0:00 Dickie V reacts to Baylor taking down Gonzaga. 1:45 Where does Baylor rank among the greatest college basketball teams? 3:38 Stephen A. thinks Baylor should have been ranked No. 1.
Bull. Gonzaga wasn’t overrated. They were undefeated and deserved the #1 ranking. They destroy every big name school they played this year. Baylor wasn’t underrated. When you have 2 losses its hard to rank you higher than an undefeated team.
@@steveno7058 Baylor could've been undefeated had it not been for a few weeks of COVID-19. Yet, all the while, they were close to Gonzaga all season long.
Baylor....Humble, hungry, highly motivated, reserved, fast, excellent defense, too many offensive weapons, always looking for the open guy, amazing ball movement, zero slack aggresiveness with continuous and non stop drive, excellence in coaching, hardened. Need not say more... They came to the battle with losing not being an option. For the past week all that was heard from the sports press was Gonzagas greatness, How do you like them now? Sic' em Bears..
Gonzaga was not overrated, they made it to the Championship. They simply lost to the only team that was better than them. When it comes to the top 5 rankings, it's always a toss-up.
@Bryan J Desire It’s only one game bro. Anything can happen in one game. Baylor was super hot from 3FG, shooting 44% 3FG which is way higher than their season average. One game is one game. Remember last year when the Lakers lost one game to Houston in the playoffs
In regard to being exhausted from Saturday, Dickie V straight facts about that - "If you're gonna be a National Championship team, you gotta get it done."
The man is admitting he made a mistake. Give him credit for being a man. Oh.. for transparency. I picked Gonzaga to win it all too, but after I watched the Houston game I picked Baylor. You could tell the Baylor defense was better.
Clearly Gonzaga was physically over matched it looked like a high school team that never spent a day in the weight room versus a college basketball team.
Look at the Baylor players AVERAGE AGE 23 YEARS OLD REPORTED BY SPORTS WRITERS February 5th, 2021. Two players 24.5 years old!! This is close to peak ages for NBA players.... In fact the reporter said the Baylor players starting 5 was OLDER than the Chicago BULLS starting 5!! Fact...
@@salmonkill7 Respectfully, it doesn’t look like any of the Gonzaga players and spent 10 minutes in the gym in their life. Time to create a sports performance program like the rest of the world. Much props to Gonzaga and all that they’ve created though amazing team
@@oceanblue22 I agree with you 1000% you need to be both muscular and fast and tall. No argument there. .That said AVERAGE AGE OF 23 for Baylor starting 5. 3 more years of weight room work!! This was the difference. I do think Baylor playing a 8 to 10 man rotation helped their freshness. Zags play 6 to 7 guys the entire game!! KISPERT had open looks all tournament and he didn't deliver that happens with even the best 3 point shooters. Baylor was lights out from 3!! This has a demoralizing effect on a team. Suggs was the first 5 STAR ZAGS recruit in this small school of 5000 students. Next year we get 2 more 5 STAR RECRUITS coming. Zags Will eventually get their title... Lets remember John Stockton gave ZAGS a little mention but they were UNKNOWN TINY UNIVERSITY in Spokane, WA. THEY WILL GET THERE. ADD SABONIS AND JACK COLLINS to the Zags team with a 21 year old Johnathon Williams. Imagine that... Age makes a huge difference. Michael Jordan at 23 versus 19....
@@salmonkill7you’re on every comment making excuses, You’re complaining about them only playing 6 or 7 players but they did the same thing in an overtime game against UCLA Saturday. Gonzaga was nowhere near as good as Baylor. Zion Williamson is 19 and is more athletic and stronger than most of the 30 year olds in the nba. Age has nothing to do with anything in Basketball. Gonzaga played weak competition and folded when they played a good team. Plain and Simple buddy!
That and they are 23 years old average age starting 5!! Great team however Baylor is great!! ADD Johnathon Williams and Sabonis and Zach Collins to Zags so building an older adult squad makes a huge difference. Me personally I would rather watch NBA if the College players are 23 years old average. A NCAA sports writer reported these Baylor players ages Feb. 5th 2021 and I verified that. Still AWESOME BAYLOR TEAM!!
@@salmonkill7 you’re tryna passively aggressive make excuses you’re not slick !!! 1 and dones is fairly new to college ball. NCAA use to routinely have older kids in school , it’s college not freaking high school
It’s still hard for him to admit Gonzaga is not the best team. You can feel his energy he’s disappointed in Gonzaga. But yea he didn’t make any excuses, his energy was kind of off though.
I feel like Baylor should’ve been ranked 1 earlier in the season, but Gonzaga had to be overall #1 going into the NCAA tournament undefeated. Everyone knew Baylor was capable of dominating Gonzaga though all season.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 Baylor did not “get embarrassed” by Kansas. They lost on the road just 3 days after half the team had COVID for 3 weeks and were unable to practice more than twice over that span. Far from embarrassing.
When high rated Bluebloods get beat badly, no one says they were overrated. In 2008, UNC was the overall #1 seed in a year when all #1 seeds made it and were great clubs. When Kansas curbstomped them in the semifinals, nobody questioned if they were overrated or didnt belong. UNC came back and won the title the next season. Same year, Memphis beat a UCLA team by 18 that had Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook and Darren Collison. Nobody said UCLA was overrated. That Memphis team was very similar to Gonzaga in terms of playing in a weak league but playing a monster non-conference schedule. Had they lost badly to Kansas, the overrated talk would start The narrative anytime a non power 5 school has a really bad game in the tournament is the exact same. Their conference doesnt prepare them... they are overrated etc etc... its a stupid argument. Great teams get beat and anything can happen in a one game scenario
It looked like the first time they ran into real competition because it was the first time. They blew out teams like Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia. Baylor was the only team in the country good enough to beat them
Missed crucial free throws, could not grab boards , relied on jalen for everything yet couldn’t get the ball to him In open space. Holy those light skin boys were looking shook no cap
@@chrisuncleahmad789 The refs let any team that wants to play rugby play rugby. This is the way the game has evolved. IMO, the game was not broken in the 70's when they didn't allow all the hand-checking, riding and pinballing of drivers and cutters. If you put your hands or body on someone outside of the low post area, you expected a foul to be called. However, the networks thought it was broken. Perhaps the ratings were down. They wanted to see slam dunks and threes, not games interrupted by foul calls and free throws. One downside of putting more discretion in the hands of officials to decide when it's a "no call" and when it isn't, is that you have a recipe for a double standard when one team plays more physically than the other. You also give the refs a way to determine the outcome by design, if that's what they want to do. They can call everything close on one end and loose on the other. To me, the game would be better and fairer if they called all those "nickel and dimers". Players and coaches would have to adjust, and they would or else it would become a FT shooting contest with starters fouling out right and left. I don't see it happening, however.
Gonzaga is a legitimately good team. I think what hurt them the most was playing in the WCC. It is not the same as playing in a P5 conference like the ACC, BIG, Big12 or others. You have to be on your game every night in those leagues or you will get beat. In the WCC, 3/4 of the teams are weak and you can cruise through most of the conference schedule. It hurts a team like Gonzaga in keeping sharp.
All good points made, but one thing I didn't notice being mentioned in this video was turnover ratio. Baylor had a great combination of great defense and a great ability to control the ball. Too many guys that could handle the ball and too many guys that could steal it.
It's not always about the best team winning it all, it's about the individual matchups along the way. Baylor was more assertive, hungry and clearly posed matchup problems for Gonzaga
I wish they would have answered the question regarding where Baylor ranks all time. They're the best team I've ever seen. The '90 UNLV team won the championship by 30. This Baylor team would beat them.
If Gonzaga was going to be considered “one of the best teams ever” if they would’ve beat Baylor, and then Baylor beat the brakes off of them so why isn’t Baylor being considered?
@@chrisuncleahmad789 bad take - had Baylor not ran into a mandatory COVID pause, I firmly believe they may have gone undefeated. KU was lucky to make the tournament this year
Thank you, Max! COVID really messed us up when we had to face Kansas and OK State. If it was for the COVID pause, we really could have come into this game undefeated. Once the tournament got going, we were back. And people should have known that from the way we beat on Wisconsin in the second round. Once we demolished Houston, and saw Gonzaga barely escape UCLA, I knew that we were gonna jump on them.
Um my ncaa oficiandos... why is no one talking about the transfer portal. This team did not start their careers at Baylor. These guys are the brooklyn nets. Start talking about it!
If you take into consideration what Vitale says right here @6:40 then the answer is yes...Gonzaga was overrated. Saying overrated isn’t saying they weren’t a great team,they just wasn’t the best team. Being undefeated (while playing well) will give that appearance,but their record was taking away spotlight from how good Baylor actually was. I felt all along if Baylor played Gonzaga,they would beat them down like that because of the makeup of their team physically. IMO Suggs is the only player that would compete for a starting job on Baylor’s team. They weren’t worn down from that UCLA game,their weaknesses were just exposed. That’s all.
From the start, it's not Gonzaga's fault for being ranked no.1 in the first place. So if you to place any blame, it should be on the college basketball sportswriters and coaches, period.
How is Gonzaga "tired" from the game against UCLA when they play all those cupcakes and no-names in the WCC leading up to the NCAA tournament year in and year out? GTFOH 😂
@@steveno7058 What happened wasn't freakish, though. Physically, ZGonzaga got knocked back throughout the game, but mentally they got blitzed the first 4-6 minute stretch. I knew they were going to have a tough time on both ends of the floor, and they did. Baylor was the superior team and the markers for the outcome of this game were there throughout the early rounds.
No, Baylor outplayed them from the get-go. They defended well and were hot from downtown. Gonzaga was a great team, but Baylor was just flat-out better. It was pro-Baylor more than anti-Gonzaga.
Yeah, but GU blew out like half of the good Big12 teams this season. Kansas, West Virginia, Oklahoma. They also beat Iowa, Auburn, UCLA and USC. If they were scrubs they wouldn't have sniffed the elite eight. Truth is, Baylor was just on another level. Than everybody.
Zags was a let down. They didn't bring it. Baylor wanted it so much more. Baylor are the better team, by a lot. They play 10 times, Baylor wins 10 times, and I thought Gonzaga would win the game. After seeing the athletes on the floor, Baylor just way more talented and strong for the little bulldogs.
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND I AGREE WITH ALL YOU SAID. ...but... Look a little deeper and Baylor had an average age of 22.5 year old for their starting 5!! They had two 24.5 year olds. Imagine a ZAGS team this year with Jack Collins and Sabonis. Both these guys would easily be within the Baylor players average ages. It's not really a level playing field. Great Baylor basketball 🏀 team hats off to them!! Personally I don't want to watch 19 year olds playing 23 year olds. If so I'll watch NBA and quit watching NCAA basketball....
@@salmonkill7 I agree, that makes sense because it looked like me posting up my 14 year old. Baylors PG would bully anyone I bet. He'll be a great pro I think. He's tough as nails.
It was one game dude. Baylor was unreal hot from 3FG shooting 44% which is ridiculously high for a college team. What if Baylor was cold and shot 20% 3FG? Totally different ball game with more transition opportunities for Gonzaga. Anything can happen in one game. That is the magic of the tournament.
@@bewee Definitely pro player!! I was shocked to find out the ages of Baylor players both 23 year old AVERAGE for starting 5 and two 24.5 year olds!! The very large and muscular player from Africa. I was involved with youth baseball and you cannot trust ages of players from third World countries. Why? Because the poor children are not born in a Hospital like Developed Nations. They have no National birth certificates. You can make up any old darn are to make them relevant ESPECIALLY WHEN PRO CONTRACTS ARE ON THE LINE!! I am not a HATER!! BAYLOR DESERVED TO WIN but I really don't want to see OLD GROWN MEN PLAYING COLLEGE BALL. This Baylor team 2021 EASILY DEFEATS the Roy Williams 2017 NCAA champions. No contest!!
Gonzaga is the greatest mid major program of all time, and Mark Few is one of the greatest college coaches perhaps of all-time. but as witnessed in 2017 and now four years later in 2021, they are still not quite on the level of the best power conference teams. Baylor was just a better team in every aspect of the game.
It was like a basketball team built like a football team versus a finesse basketball team. They had them wide bodies strength how do you give up eight offensive rebounds to one man like he was Dennis Rodman out there just with broad shoulders and brute strength so even if they missed they got the rebound but what do people aren't understanding too is the quickness and foot speed there was a big difference in foot speed and quickness. And by the time Suggs and the boys got their feet they're already down 15 so it was a wrap by the end of the first half. Even though they got it to 10 Baylor was never going to let them get closer than that and then they had those three guards that can take you off the dribble at the same time and shoot from deep there was no answer whatever the zags did they had an answer for Timmy and the boys. They even try to go to zone and then they were still wetting them from deep. Honestly believe and what Shannon Sharpe was saying the other day when he said that I think this team if they played each other five times I can't see the zag is winning more than one game. It's just a bad matchup they don't have the quickness they don't have the strength they don't have the speed. Last night I think Bailey would have beat anybody hands down the physicality the hunger they were going after every loose ball came up Baylor ball
@@chrisuncleahmad789 It was the championship game the referees are going to allow you to play they're not going to be the star of the show calling tic tac calls Gonzaga had a man up and match the intensity and they couldn't do it. And it wasn't like Baylor was clutching grabbing holding pushing they tested them chest to chest.
Lol you can’t make it to the title game in this sport without being a great team. Baylor was just better in every respect. Baylor was way too athletic for Gonzaga to win in the halfcourt, but Gonzaga couldnt speed the game up in transition because Baylor was hitting way too many shots and killing them with offensive rebounds.
Nope, no excuses. My team didn't have it that night and played like absolute garbage. They stunk up the joint and should be embarrassed by their performance in front of the whole world.
People talk about Baylor being undefeated had there not been COVID. Or Gonzaga being better had they not have had the break. I think we are all forgetting they were supposed to play early in the season and canceled it. We would have had much better information with which to make an educated outcome for this game if they had played.
Steve A would pick Gonzaga. Just like everyone else. Hate to tell you that wasn't a charge and that buzzer beater should have never even happened. That's why they lost. They could barely beat an 11 seed.
They were 100% NOT overrated. They were literally ranked the best team in the Nation with the best record. Nobody was above them! They were literally first. They just lost in the championship game. If the unanimous best team loses in the championship that in no way shape or form makes them underrated
Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. No, Baylor did not deserve to be ranked number one during the season. They lost two games and they struggled in some others (against non-tourney teams). Gonzaga, meanwhile, did nothing to justify dropping them from the #1 spot throughout the season. Every win except one (West Virginia) was by double digits! But in the end, Baylor proved to be the strongest team and the last one standing. That's how it goes in college hoops, and that's why we love it.
Anyone who says Gonzaga was tired because of their previous game obviously hadn’t been paying attention to Baylor throughout the Tournament. Baylor consistently dominated their opponents with their defense and athleticism the whole tournament. They made every team look weak and tired, and they did Gonzaga just like the rest of them.
This comment is absolutely right. Suggs was outstanding, but the rest of the Zags were who we thought they were. They looked exactly like WCC athletes. Baylor was way to athletic.
GU seemed jittery coming into the final 4. I could see that even against UCLA Suggs seems to have kept it steady. In the final, from the start, when Baylor came down and got 3 offensive rebounds before scoring, that was a shock. Then Suggs goes out with two fouls. They lose confidence. The Gonzaga story would have been a better story. Most people wanted Gonzaga to win. But unfortunately, Baylor was the better team. If it was a 5 game series I think GU would have won one or two games. But Baylor too big strong and quick. Maybe next year.
0:00 Dickie V reacts to Baylor taking down Gonzaga.
1:45 Where does Baylor rank among the greatest college basketball teams?
3:38 Stephen A. thinks Baylor should have been ranked No. 1.
I'm not surprised
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The Zags weren’t overrated, Baylor was underrated.
Amen
Combination of both
Bull. Gonzaga wasn’t overrated. They were undefeated and deserved the #1 ranking. They destroy every big name school they played this year. Baylor wasn’t underrated. When you have 2 losses its hard to rank you higher than an undefeated team.
@@steveno7058 Baylor could've been undefeated had it not been for a few weeks of COVID-19. Yet, all the while, they were close to Gonzaga all season long.
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Baylor owned that game within the first few minutes.
i bet you give some good gawk gawk
@DaShahn Draper even better
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@@johnnyharris1691 LMAO
I love listening to Dickie V. He a living legend
Baylor....Humble, hungry, highly motivated, reserved, fast, excellent defense, too many offensive weapons, always looking for the open guy, amazing ball movement, zero slack aggresiveness with continuous and non stop drive, excellence in coaching, hardened. Need not say more... They came to the battle with losing not being an option. For the past week all that was heard from the sports press was Gonzagas greatness, How do you like them now? Sic' em Bears..
@AE S - Well said. Very true.
FIRE!!!
U know who else is humble drew timme
😂 but only when they r playing real competition
Dickie V is a f*cking legend. Respect.
Facts
Dickie V helped shaped college basketball to where it is today. He's a Legend.
Major facts
Just another guy with a big mouth. 🙄
@@J.T3643 sounds like he's pinching a loaf...
Max sound like he just Learnt to use Baylor in a sentence
Im dead
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Max is a legend in his own mind...
He's a clown. Total idiot.
Gonzaga was not overrated, they made it to the Championship. They simply lost to the only team that was better than them. When it comes to the top 5 rankings, it's always a toss-up.
@Bryan J Desire It’s only one game bro. Anything can happen in one game. Baylor was super hot from 3FG, shooting 44% 3FG which is way higher than their season average. One game is one game. Remember last year when the Lakers lost one game to Houston in the playoffs
Yea against garbage are teams all season long.. look at their schedule soooo dam weak move them to the Acc or big ten SEC they suck...
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@@JohnSmith-pg4di Wdym usc and UCLA ain’t weak.
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I love Dicky V !! Please appreciate him while he’s here . Great mind !
Gonzaga is a mid major powerhouse that ran into Big Conference powerhouse. Classic case of good big man always beats good little man
Dicky V comes in and BLOWS UP THE PARTY! BOOM BABY!
They’re talking about Gonzaga more than Baylor
..Gonzaga was UNDEFEATED ALL YEAR LONG..that's why...🤔
Nobody cares about Baylor that’s why
@@i.p.freely1405 It's still ridiculous that they talked more about the second-place team instead of the national champions.
They're trying to justify their reasoning for voting Gonzaga #1 all season long, the experts hate to admit when they're wrong !
@@johnpena9165 this is it!
Baylor was on freaking fire! They smoked everyone. Go Bears! Sic’em! What a class act. So proud of them.
In regard to being exhausted from Saturday, Dickie V straight facts about that - "If you're gonna be a National Championship team, you gotta get it done."
Stephen A picking gonzaga to win and then complaining about their conference and number one ranking rubs me the wrong way
The man is admitting he made a mistake. Give him credit for being a man. Oh.. for transparency. I picked Gonzaga to win it all too, but after I watched the Houston game I picked Baylor. You could tell the Baylor defense was better.
Clearly Gonzaga was physically over matched it looked like a high school team that never spent a day in the weight room versus a college basketball team.
Look at the Baylor players AVERAGE AGE 23 YEARS OLD REPORTED BY SPORTS WRITERS February 5th, 2021.
Two players 24.5 years old!!
This is close to peak ages for NBA players....
In fact the reporter said the Baylor players starting 5 was OLDER than the Chicago BULLS starting 5!!
Fact...
@@salmonkill7 Respectfully, it doesn’t look like any of the Gonzaga players and spent 10 minutes in the gym in their life. Time to create a sports performance program like the rest of the world. Much props to Gonzaga and all that they’ve created though amazing team
@@oceanblue22 build has something to do with it - you think they dont lift weights? lol jesus
@@oceanblue22 I agree with you 1000% you need to be both muscular and fast and tall. No argument there.
.That said AVERAGE AGE OF 23 for Baylor starting 5. 3 more years of weight room work!!
This was the difference.
I do think Baylor playing a 8 to 10 man rotation helped their freshness. Zags play 6 to 7 guys the entire game!!
KISPERT had open looks all tournament and he didn't deliver that happens with even the best 3 point shooters.
Baylor was lights out from 3!!
This has a demoralizing effect on a team.
Suggs was the first 5 STAR ZAGS recruit in this small school of 5000 students. Next year we get 2 more 5 STAR RECRUITS coming.
Zags Will eventually get their title...
Lets remember John Stockton gave ZAGS a little mention but they were UNKNOWN TINY UNIVERSITY in Spokane, WA.
THEY WILL GET THERE.
ADD SABONIS AND JACK COLLINS to the Zags team with a 21 year old Johnathon Williams. Imagine that...
Age makes a huge difference. Michael Jordan at 23 versus 19....
@@salmonkill7you’re on every comment making excuses, You’re complaining about them only playing 6 or 7 players but they did the same thing in an overtime game against UCLA Saturday. Gonzaga was nowhere near as good as Baylor. Zion Williamson is 19 and is more athletic and stronger than most of the 30 year olds in the nba. Age has nothing to do with anything in Basketball. Gonzaga played weak competition and folded when they played a good team. Plain and Simple buddy!
Them boys in Spokane eating fish,them boys in Baylor eating corn fed beef and ham hoks ,to strong for them country eating boys
Facts! 😭😭😭
That and they are 23 years old average age starting 5!!
Great team however Baylor is great!!
ADD Johnathon Williams and Sabonis and Zach Collins to Zags so building an older adult squad makes a huge difference.
Me personally I would rather watch NBA if the College players are 23 years old average. A NCAA sports writer reported these Baylor players ages Feb. 5th 2021 and I verified that.
Still AWESOME BAYLOR TEAM!!
Hoop cheese
@@salmonkill7 you’re tryna passively aggressive make excuses you’re not slick !!! 1 and dones is fairly new to college ball. NCAA use to routinely have older kids in school , it’s college not freaking high school
Bahahahahaha!! 😂 Them boys eatin’ good!
Dickie V forever. What a pro
mr vitale is that old school no excuse hard italian man luv it
Hes the best
It’s still hard for him to admit Gonzaga is not the best team. You can feel his energy he’s disappointed in Gonzaga. But yea he didn’t make any excuses, his energy was kind of off though.
@@unbiascowboy1537 Not surprising. Baylor has a history of illegal and amoral behavior in their sports programs
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Plain and simple Baylor was the best team in the nation. The Zags were completely outmatched.
But still the Second best team in the nation. They were overrated by 1.
@@JeffSmith-pl2pj Agreed
Congrats to Baylor for their 2021 NCAA B-ball championship!! Well deserved!! Baylor was a better team!
They forget baylor just beat a hard defense in Houston
I feel like Baylor should’ve been ranked 1 earlier in the season, but Gonzaga had to be overall #1 going into the NCAA tournament undefeated. Everyone knew Baylor was capable of dominating Gonzaga though all season.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 Baylor did not “get embarrassed” by Kansas. They lost on the road just 3 days after half the team had COVID for 3 weeks and were unable to practice more than twice over that span. Far from embarrassing.
0:59 "Winners don't make excuses" EXCELLENT quote from Dickie V.
Dicky V is still the man
When high rated Bluebloods get beat badly, no one says they were overrated. In 2008, UNC was the overall #1 seed in a year when all #1 seeds made it and were great clubs. When Kansas curbstomped them in the semifinals, nobody questioned if they were overrated or didnt belong. UNC came back and won the title the next season. Same year, Memphis beat a UCLA team by 18 that had Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook and Darren Collison. Nobody said UCLA was overrated. That Memphis team was very similar to Gonzaga in terms of playing in a weak league but playing a monster non-conference schedule. Had they lost badly to Kansas, the overrated talk would start
The narrative anytime a non power 5 school has a really bad game in the tournament is the exact same. Their conference doesnt prepare them... they are overrated etc etc... its a stupid argument. Great teams get beat and anything can happen in a one game scenario
gonzaga got bodied.. it looked like the first time they ran into some real competition.
That’s because it was.
@@WSUFan2017 they played a couple good teams... but yeah overall they are in a weaker conference and it showed.
They looked like they never played on a blacktop before if you know what i mean🤣
@@AlphaDwg no they play in rich white gyms at schools like pepperdine lmao
It looked like the first time they ran into real competition because it was the first time. They blew out teams like Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia. Baylor was the only team in the country good enough to beat them
Max “Baylorrrrrrrr!!!” Kellerman
Tired of hearing covid excuses
Missed crucial free throws, could not grab boards , relied on jalen for everything yet couldn’t get the ball to him In open space. Holy those light skin boys were looking shook no cap
What....speak english
@@michaelrodriguez9685 they lost because they sucked. You can’t interpret this because you can’t read
Dickey V knows his basketball 🏀
Yep..he predicted Gonzaga would win by 10😒
@@WeBbillionairz ya digg
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This Baylor team was definitely one of the best college teams I’ve ever seen! No weaknesses
There shouldn’t be any excuses for Gonzaga, the refs tried to keep them in the game.
Facts bro every game I watched of Gonzaga the refs were for them it seemed like the UCLA game was so bad officiated they should of been in it
Facts
@@chrisuncleahmad789 The refs let any team that wants to play rugby play rugby. This is the way the game has evolved. IMO, the game was not broken in the 70's when they didn't allow all the hand-checking, riding and pinballing of drivers and cutters. If you put your hands or body on someone outside of the low post area, you expected a foul to be called. However, the networks thought it was broken. Perhaps the ratings were down. They wanted to see slam dunks and threes, not games interrupted by foul calls and free throws. One downside of putting more discretion in the hands of officials to decide when it's a "no call" and when it isn't, is that you have a recipe for a double standard when one team plays more physically than the other. You also give the refs a way to determine the outcome by design, if that's what they want to do. They can call everything close on one end and loose on the other.
To me, the game would be better and fairer if they called all those "nickel and dimers". Players and coaches would have to adjust, and they would or else it would become a FT shooting contest with starters fouling out right and left. I don't see it happening, however.
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Just like they do Duke , soon as they got down the whistles went crazy
Gonzaga is a legitimately good team. I think what hurt them the most was playing in the WCC. It is not the same as playing in a P5 conference like the ACC, BIG, Big12 or others. You have to be on your game every night in those leagues or you will get beat. In the WCC, 3/4 of the teams are weak and you can cruise through most of the conference schedule. It hurts a team like Gonzaga in keeping sharp.
Baylor wanted it more Gonzaga came in to relax and got their head knocked off..I❤️❤️it🏀🏀💪🤔🤔
All good points made, but one thing I didn't notice being mentioned in this video was turnover ratio. Baylor had a great combination of great defense and a great ability to control the ball. Too many guys that could handle the ball and too many guys that could steal it.
put them in a better conference
They would play in a better conference if those big conferences let them in. They don’t want to let them in.
@ Steven O bc Basketball is their only $ making sport.
It's not always about the best team winning it all, it's about the individual matchups along the way. Baylor was more assertive, hungry and clearly posed matchup problems for Gonzaga
Gonzaga caught a real beat down, no more excuses
To clarify, Dicki V isn't saying Gonzaga is making excuses. He said, Few and Kispert and all those guys told it like it was. Baylor was better.
Dickie V the greatest...when you talk they Listen 👂
Those guards put on a show!!!! Baylor made Gonzaga start their offense 5 feet pass the 3 point line!!!!! The rebounding was unmatched!!
I wish they would have answered the question regarding where Baylor ranks all time. They're the best team I've ever seen. The '90 UNLV team won the championship by 30. This Baylor team would beat them.
Baylor was more athletic, faster, stronger, and more skilled! Baylor's 4 guards scored 70points of the teams 86 points; that was the difference!
BLACK KINGS DOMINATING .. no arrogant blowing kisses to the crowd
Exactly. Timme is a joke.
If Gonzaga was going to be considered “one of the best teams ever” if they would’ve beat Baylor, and then Baylor beat the brakes off of them so why isn’t Baylor being considered?
@@chrisuncleahmad789 bad take - had Baylor not ran into a mandatory COVID pause, I firmly believe they may have gone undefeated. KU was lucky to make the tournament this year
people saying Zaga is trash is saying that BAylors win wasn't impressive
Vitale is the G.O.A.T
Thank you, Max! COVID really messed us up when we had to face Kansas and OK State. If it was for the COVID pause, we really could have come into this game undefeated.
Once the tournament got going, we were back. And people should have known that from the way we beat on Wisconsin in the second round. Once we demolished Houston, and saw Gonzaga barely escape UCLA, I knew that we were gonna jump on them.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 UNC lost, lol.
Um my ncaa oficiandos... why is no one talking about the transfer portal. This team did not start their careers at Baylor. These guys are the brooklyn nets. Start talking about it!
I am amazed at how sharp he is at his age! Big Legend 💩
Gonzaga wasn’t overrated. Baylor was underrated.
The Razorbacks played Baylor better than anyone in the tournament in my opinion.
Not just opinion...fact
Timmy was red the whole game 😂😂😂
If you take into consideration what Vitale says right here @6:40 then the answer is yes...Gonzaga was overrated. Saying overrated isn’t saying they weren’t a great team,they just wasn’t the best team.
Being undefeated (while playing well) will give that appearance,but their record was taking away spotlight from how good Baylor actually was.
I felt all along if Baylor played Gonzaga,they would beat them down like that because of the makeup of their team physically.
IMO Suggs is the only player that would compete for a starting job on Baylor’s team. They weren’t worn down from that UCLA game,their weaknesses were just exposed. That’s all.
From the start, it's not Gonzaga's fault for being ranked no.1 in the first place. So if you to place any blame, it should be on the college basketball sportswriters and coaches, period.
How is Gonzaga "tired" from the game against UCLA when they play all those cupcakes and no-names in the WCC leading up to the NCAA tournament year in and year out? GTFOH 😂
Yet Gonzaga still crushed every single big name school they played this year including in the tournament.
@@steveno7058 you'd have an argument if they didn't wet the bed and get their a$$es handed to them last night.
Go Zags? 😂
@@TheBackOfTheClassroom Not really. Anyone can lose 1 game. Freak things can happen in a 1 game scenario
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@@steveno7058 What happened wasn't freakish, though. Physically, ZGonzaga got knocked back throughout the game, but mentally they got blitzed the first 4-6 minute stretch. I knew they were going to have a tough time on both ends of the floor, and they did. Baylor was the superior team and the markers for the outcome of this game were there throughout the early rounds.
Max never saw the early 90's UNLV teams I guess. Never saw the 82 UNC team or the 91 or 92 Duke teams.
Too FEW boxouts. 18 more shots on goal for Baylor. Hustle points .
Never underestimate your opponent
Gonzaga lost this game. No excuses!!!
Baylor won this game.
No, Baylor outplayed them from the get-go. They defended well and were hot from downtown. Gonzaga was a great team, but Baylor was just flat-out better. It was pro-Baylor more than anti-Gonzaga.
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Dickie V is basketball...period.
No excuses they lost end of story
your wife won with me though
Max's face when he sees SAS get schooled is priceless
lol
Dickie V been the same age for 40yrs
Baylor playing in big12 got them ready, big 12 had 9 solid squads , zags plays in a micky mouse conference. Clearly not ready for the smoke
Yeah, but GU blew out like half of the good Big12 teams this season. Kansas, West Virginia, Oklahoma. They also beat Iowa, Auburn, UCLA and USC. If they were scrubs they wouldn't have sniffed the elite eight. Truth is, Baylor was just on another level. Than everybody.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 stop it lol lol lol
@@marquemason7726 Baylor was a fluke one year wonder
@@chrisuncleahmad789 ???..& Gonzaga wasn't??.. lol lol lol
@@chrisuncleahmad789 we hoop in big xii.. we straight Dawgs down here please believe
Zags was a let down. They didn't bring it. Baylor wanted it so much more. Baylor are the better team, by a lot. They play 10 times, Baylor wins 10 times, and I thought Gonzaga would win the game. After seeing the athletes on the floor, Baylor just way more talented and strong for the little bulldogs.
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND I AGREE WITH ALL YOU SAID.
...but...
Look a little deeper and Baylor had an average age of 22.5 year old for their starting 5!! They had two 24.5 year olds.
Imagine a ZAGS team this year with Jack Collins and Sabonis. Both these guys would easily be within the Baylor players average ages.
It's not really a level playing field.
Great Baylor basketball 🏀 team hats off to them!!
Personally I don't want to watch 19 year olds playing 23 year olds. If so I'll watch NBA and quit watching NCAA basketball....
@@salmonkill7 I agree, that makes sense because it looked like me posting up my 14 year old. Baylors PG would bully anyone I bet. He'll be a great pro I think. He's tough as nails.
It was one game dude. Baylor was unreal hot from 3FG shooting 44% which is ridiculously high for a college team. What if Baylor was cold and shot 20% 3FG? Totally different ball game with more transition opportunities for Gonzaga. Anything can happen in one game. That is the magic of the tournament.
@@steveno7058 Absolutely 💯!!!
Plus SUGGS got 2 quick fouls the first charge WAS TOTAL BS...
@@bewee Definitely pro player!!
I was shocked to find out the ages of Baylor players both 23 year old AVERAGE for starting 5 and two 24.5 year olds!!
The very large and muscular player from Africa. I was involved with youth baseball and you cannot trust ages of players from third World countries. Why? Because the poor children are not born in a Hospital like Developed Nations. They have no National birth certificates. You can make up any old darn are to make them relevant ESPECIALLY WHEN PRO CONTRACTS ARE ON THE LINE!!
I am not a HATER!! BAYLOR DESERVED TO WIN but I really don't want to see OLD GROWN MEN PLAYING COLLEGE BALL.
This Baylor team 2021 EASILY DEFEATS the Roy Williams 2017 NCAA champions. No contest!!
Gonzaga is in the WCC (Weak Cupcake Conference)
Gonzaga got OWNED!
Gonzaga is the greatest mid major program of all time, and Mark Few is one of the greatest college coaches perhaps of all-time. but as witnessed in 2017 and now four years later in 2021, they are still not quite on the level of the best power conference teams. Baylor was just a better team in every aspect of the game.
Arkansas was the 2nd best team in the NCAA tournament.
UCLA?
It was like a basketball team built like a football team versus a finesse basketball team. They had them wide bodies strength how do you give up eight offensive rebounds to one man like he was Dennis Rodman out there just with broad shoulders and brute strength so even if they missed they got the rebound but what do people aren't understanding too is the quickness and foot speed there was a big difference in foot speed and quickness. And by the time Suggs and the boys got their feet they're already down 15 so it was a wrap by the end of the first half. Even though they got it to 10 Baylor was never going to let them get closer than that and then they had those three guards that can take you off the dribble at the same time and shoot from deep there was no answer whatever the zags did they had an answer for Timmy and the boys. They even try to go to zone and then they were still wetting them from deep. Honestly believe and what Shannon Sharpe was saying the other day when he said that I think this team if they played each other five times I can't see the zag is winning more than one game. It's just a bad matchup they don't have the quickness they don't have the strength they don't have the speed. Last night I think Bailey would have beat anybody hands down the physicality the hunger they were going after every loose ball came up Baylor ball
@@chrisuncleahmad789 It was the championship game the referees are going to allow you to play they're not going to be the star of the show calling tic tac calls Gonzaga had a man up and match the intensity and they couldn't do it. And it wasn't like Baylor was clutching grabbing holding pushing they tested them chest to chest.
This guy is awesome
Lol you can’t make it to the title game in this sport without being a great team. Baylor was just better in every respect. Baylor was way too athletic for Gonzaga to win in the halfcourt, but Gonzaga couldnt speed the game up in transition because Baylor was hitting way too many shots and killing them with offensive rebounds.
Gonzaga dont play anybody is what hurt them.. Baylor was better in every way.. The refs gave Gonzaga alot of calls too
If there was a tournament in 2020 Dayton might have had something to say so Max to Baylor wins the whole thing last yr. Not so fast Max.
With Pepperdine and saint Mary 😂😂
Didn’t Baylor play Houston on Saturday as well?
Nope, no excuses. My team didn't have it that night and played like absolute garbage. They stunk up the joint and should be embarrassed by their performance in front of the whole world.
People talk about Baylor being undefeated had there not been COVID. Or Gonzaga being better had they not have had the break. I think we are all forgetting they were supposed to play early in the season and canceled it. We would have had much better information with which to make an educated outcome for this game if they had played.
Steve A would pick Gonzaga. Just like everyone else. Hate to tell you that wasn't a charge and that buzzer beater should have never even happened. That's why they lost. They could barely beat an 11 seed.
Dude. 1. that was a charge. Obviously. 2. that 11 seed is gonna be Pre-Season Top 5 next year with the same crew. They were incredibly underseeded.
@@joelkane8851 UCLA would have played Baylor better.
Sic em. Helluva season bears
I have been saying that same thing for the last 10 years about their conference
They were 100% NOT overrated. They were literally ranked the best team in the Nation with the best record. Nobody was above them! They were literally first. They just lost in the championship game. If the unanimous best team loses in the championship that in no way shape or form makes them underrated
You can't beat an athletic guards with a athletic big man that knows his role and willing to use all 5 fouls and they had 3 of them alone
Do anyone know how to get access to rewatch the game?
Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. No, Baylor did not deserve to be ranked number one during the season. They lost two games and they struggled in some others (against non-tourney teams). Gonzaga, meanwhile, did nothing to justify dropping them from the #1 spot throughout the season. Every win except one (West Virginia) was by double digits!
But in the end, Baylor proved to be the strongest team and the last one standing. That's how it goes in college hoops, and that's why we love it.
Anyone who says Gonzaga was tired because of their previous game obviously hadn’t been paying attention to Baylor throughout the Tournament. Baylor consistently dominated their opponents with their defense and athleticism the whole tournament. They made every team look weak and tired, and they did Gonzaga just like the rest of them.
Gonzaga was in this game right up through player introductions. Sic 'em, Bears!
Sic'Em 🐻
Gonzaga just Drunk so Hard after the game against UCLA 😬
The Zags were missing Athleticism ....point blank!
This comment is absolutely right. Suggs was outstanding, but the rest of the Zags were who we thought they were. They looked exactly like WCC athletes. Baylor was way to athletic.
@@bobmiller1902 Facts!!!
Right now, they are number one, okay! Can't argue that. It is what it is.
It's not How you Start like Gonzaga did with a 31-0 record. Its How you Finish like Baylor did to win the Championship.
Ucla would have been a better matchup for baylor
Amen!!
GU seemed jittery coming into the final 4. I could see that even against UCLA Suggs seems to have kept it steady. In the final, from the start, when Baylor came down and got 3 offensive rebounds before scoring, that was a shock. Then Suggs goes out with two fouls. They lose confidence. The Gonzaga story would have been a better story. Most people wanted Gonzaga to win. But unfortunately, Baylor was the better team. If it was a 5 game series I think GU would have won one or two games. But Baylor too big strong and quick. Maybe next year.
You don't have the kind of year that Gonzaga had by accident. They were a really good team that was simply outplayed when it counted. It happens.
Congrats Baylor! I hope Nate Oats can follow in your coaches footsteps and build a championship team
No disrespect to Gonzaga ....Baylor just beat the daylights out of them...it's not best of 7 but single game elimination..
Put yesterday y’all said Gonzaga was the favorite and the game was over lmaoooo
Gonzaga should be in the pac 12 but they don’t have a football team..
That would make them better, but that could shoot the competitive rank of the WCC down too much. Maybe that will happen in the future.