Other clarifications: 1. Yes I'm still doing Reconquista, in fact I'm gonna start Reconquista-ing much HARDER now that I won't be wasting time arguing with Catholics 2. Yes I'll still teach on historic Protestantism, but only to help get people educated, not to try and argue for it contra Catholicism/Orthodoxy
I have really learned a lot from your videos. I would like to drop the idea of you putting your information into printable documents that can be purchased. I am a note taker and it would be great to have some of the graphs/charts/dates/symbols/visuals that you show on your slides. They would be wonderful to reference. Just a thought! Thanks for all you do! ✝️
A house divided cannot stand. -Jesus It's better that we all listen to each other and not have an "Us vs Them" mentallity when discussing other denomenations.
Heads up: "they" don't see it like that, and they would prefer that "YOU" not exist. Hell is getting closer and closer to prevailing against the gates because of people like you.
@@dinugs4052if you want protestants to stop leaving established denominations, maybe stop committing acts of heresy? Alternatively, we could all set aside our bad blood and worship the God who created us and loves us
I think your skillset isn't necessarily geared toward debate and polemic stuff. What you are truly talented at is popularization. You take big ideas and make them digestible for the masses, and I'm not sure of anyone online who can do it as well as you. I see what you're trying to do and I appreciate it. And may God favour your re-conversion of the mainline.
Agreed. Yet, I’m glad that he went through this whole apologetic phase because now he’s prepared to answer a great variety of questions if he ever meets someone who needs those questions answered of encounter another situation where he needs to use that knowledge.
I love my fellow Catholic Brothers and sisters in Christ however I'm very happy to stay at the Episcopal Church. The Episcopal Church that I attend is in between moderate and conservative.
@@2010Juve Protestants can't stand against the evil of the world because many of them are part of it. They simply don't have the grace of God. Protestantism was the slippery slope that led to the mess we're in after all.
Pentacostal here. Much love to our Catholic brothers and sisters! We may not agree on church politic but we are united in the body of Christ first and foremost. Forever I will stand with you against the enemy and his minions. We are all under attack outside and in. We all have a lot of work to do and we can put a pin in the fun debates for now. We got souls that need the gospel and pagans at the gates, so roll up those sleeves and lets get to it!
This kind of mentality sounds nice on paper but we don't stand side by side with heretics, protestants or otherwise. Would you stand side by side with a nesotorian against the 'evil of the world, no they are part of the evil in this world and working with then is heretical
Orthobro here. I know it can be hard to say "hey this was a bad path im going rediect" and im disappointed that some online Catholics, Orhtodox and even some protestant voices cheered your rediect as if it was a victory. i am glad you are working to fix reformed protestantism and i do agree it would be better for everyone to focus on that which most people arent focus on and less on defending protestantism which is covered. I do hope you consider seminary school. And good luck on your project.
If your orthodox you should recognize him as a source of leading people astray, protestants are heretics and the less people given false information the better
Why stay reformed when you go back to the true one there should be no “fixing” here how can you be in communion with the right Church and say the wrong thing.
@owlpatrol8376 If your church established a branch in Japan or China, would you say they are larping as Americans or say, "Thank God they found the truth!"? I have found the truth and I don't care if it's alien or strange to my culture. If you wish to find the truth come larp with me.
Your videos have made it to Japan! One of my students, who isn't a believer in anything, was excited to share Redeemed Zoomer with me. Great work with an impressive level of detail presented in nice, concise packages. Balance is everything, keep enjoying what you are like doing and God will take care of the rest.
@@TheSeeking2know Thank you for your kind words indeed may they find faith in Christ. Japan a hard land for the Lord's truth to take hold, yet local Church even though small in number are full of love for our great God. Have a wonderful day/night TheSeeking2know from JP🗾
Im a converting Christian from an Islamic background raised in tunisia catholic orthodox and protestant we're all one in christ please stop fighting for some theological differences when people die without knowing our lord and when extreme secularism and atheism grows rapidly.. Wake up please we are united in christ we need to love and accept each other even when we disagree ❤🙏
Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Divided we fall, United we stand, infighting between denominations is a plot from the enemy to distract us and to divide us when in reality we are all under one Kingdom and One God Trinity.
As a catholic i can reliably say Protestants and their zeal brought me back to Christianity and i returned home to the catholic church with a fire unlike anything else. Protestants give you the fire and Catholicism remind you of history and fullness of the church. Thank you RZ.
I believe every church has its truths and deceptions (as a reflection of the imperfect humans that make it up) And that we all have a lot to learn from every branch of Christianity (so long as it doesn't breach essential doctrines such as Jesus being the son of God, and the Trinity)
@@joelsweeney4024 every church takes from something and only one (two) predate the bible. Research pentecost more then rethink your man made "corruption"
This is exactly what's happening in a muslim majority Indonesia where Christians are minority, Christians living in Christian majority county need to understand how important it is to taking care of each other. It's not unusual for Muslims to learn the basic of Trinity etc from Protestant courses, smaller churches before they decided to join either Catholic or Orthodox Church. God bless you.
Catholicism is spiritually dead. Thats why you needed protestantism to bring you back to life. Catholicism doesnt have the fullness of the church because it severely lacks God’s Holy Spirit.
I'm one of those followers that is converting to Roman Catholic. You were a gateway drug to me wanting to learn more about the Church, and I thank you very much for contributing to my elementary education on that subject. Peace and Love to you Brother, I know you've taken jabs at Catholicism, but I've always seen it as a sibling playfully smack-talking instead of an enemy attacking. I see your mission as important, more faithful protestants is good for the world. I hope that they would all come home eventually, but I'd rather have faithful protestants than semi-secular liberals 100% of the time.
@@JORA52 Just more works-based salvation 😐 Edit: To respond to everyone, I'm talking about those who believe that one must "live out" their faith in order for it to be "justified" in the eyes of God; which is just a fancy way of saying that your works have anything to do with salvation, which is unbiblical. Many Orthodox and Catholics believe in this false version of faith, while many in these denominations also believe in the truth, despite this. My comment is speaking about the abundance of people who DO believe in the false doctrine of works + faith, not generalizing or saying that the church's statements of faith necessarily agree with it. Orthodoxy and Catholicism, or at the least, many within it, tend to promote this false doctrine, hence why I would be amiss to recommend it as a first choice of denomination. To be clear: Faith is alone what saves us (hopefully I mustn't explain how, or why this is necessary), and works come from genuine faith; HOWEVER, those works have nothing to do with actually SAVING us; if I had faith but no works, I'd still be saved. It's just unlikely such would occur, as works reflect genuine faith.
It’s not really works based at all unless you straw man it. Orthodox completely believe you are saved by the grace of god alone, but that grace leads to becoming christ like, and being christ like includes doing good works.
as a Catholic I honestly appreciate you being charitable when discussing classical Christianity. I also appreciate seeing the other side and I respect your beliefs. We all must work together to defeat the REAL enemy, liberalism and anti-christian culture
I think this is a good idea brother. Your strength is in your ministry. The Reconquista, not in debating. Focusing on your ministry is much more fruitful. Love ya man, God bless you. Will always be praying for you - DJ
This is very humble of you, Brother. Thank you for your honesty. Thank you also for pointing to those who are more qualified. God bless and keep you, RZ.
@@sirllamaiii9708 Just as Paul says, we are each different parts of the body with our own unique purpose. Not everyone is a foot and not everyone is a hand.
You biggest problem is your belief in the blasphemous trinity, a fourth century invention. Protestantism is just another branch of Trinitarianism and is corrupt. Abandon the false creeds, turn to the Jesus creed in Mark 12, the Shema. You should try chat with Sir Anthony Buzzard, you would learn far more from him than any seminary
As a Brazilian Catholic I do think this was a good decision in your part. It's also true that we are in a much worse state here. Let's get our Churches back!
As a Catholic we really need to get our own house in order. The liturgy wars… and the fact I see more pope bashing from Catholics than non-Catholics now.
Definitely respect trying to avoid fostering hostility, it's a big problem in the church. I understand it's important, these issues that divide us, but not more important than the core of Christian faith John 17:20-23
As a catholic I LOVE how strong you are, if I only do half of the job you are doing, I really struggle of laziness and looking at you is like, wow, a young man that looks like want to love Christ with his heart, God bless you You know, one of the most important things that keep me out of protestantism is why they don't confess their sins to a priest while the early christians did it, that is something that I don't undestand
Is confession to an elder in scripture? I don't believe so. Is it a requirement for salvation? No. If the early church did it then is it consistent? From my study not much is consistent outside in the early church. The earliest churches - closest to the apostles - faltered in scripture - like the addition of work, circumcision, to the gospel of salvation by grace and through faith.
@blissseeker4719 Jesus tell his apostles that he’s giving them the power to forgive sins. Unless you think that this power was exclusive to the apostles and they didn’t give it to the bishops and priest they ordained, so I don’t see how confessing to a priest isn’t biblical
RZ I just want to thank you for helping me in my introduction to orthodoxy, you're the first youtuber I watched that actually made me question protestant beliefs.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 you are good . just don’t go start debates with Catholics & orthodox . You can also go sharpened your knowledge of traditional protestantism by like talking to people that are more knowledgeable about traditional protestantism then you are .
@@redeemedzoomer6053 you can defend and teach something that you believe in without bashing anyone. Except Islam & non-Christians because they are obviously false believes .
@@redeemedzoomer6053 You actually are. You're very well spoken and clear, charitable to opposing views/sides, can simplify complex topics to make them easier to understand in a fun way. I appreciate the feeling of wanting to stop what you feel is dividing our family of believers. Each side demonizes and doesn't listen to the other side. Not everyone, but as a general statement. Don't stop making content on TH-cam, bro. Your videos have greatly helped me to learn and understand so much about my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who are of different denominations by discussing both the differences and similarities in a very charitable and fair way, which has helped me to come to a similar conclusion as you: to stop demonizing and fighting other denomination. To get rid of the "Us vs Them" mentality and sympathize and empathize and genuinely listen to someone with differing viewpoints. To consider them a person just like me who is a beggar who has found living bread in Jesus Christ instead of focusing on being right and "winning" the argument. I get what you mean, to stop defending Protestantism against Catholics/Orthodox, but I really hope you consider and think about continuing to make content about Christianity in general. Again, your videos on the different denominations has been invaluable, but I mean you could begin to cover some of the many other topics related to Christianity besides denominational differences. Even if you do decided to make something about denominations or a video that would include discussing differences between any denominations, I know that you'll do so in a very charitable, fair, and fun way. Love you bro and keep up the good work for the kingdom and for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Peace
I go to a seminary and can confidently say that there are still good ones out there, but yeah as an aggregate the quality of seminary education has steeply declined.
Bro I get it ❤️ every denomination is becoming more and more progressive in the wrong ways. Tradition is thrown out the window. The church I go to now is non-denominational but my real walk with Christ is personal and with my family obviously my beliefs are the ones found in the Bible nowhere else
I'm lucky my (non denom) church still clings to biblical values, just not at the most literal (i.e. no radical LGBTQ acceptance but also not saying to stone people)
I found your channel to learn more about Christianity and it's been so helpful. Was baptized in June at the non-denominational church my family goes to, and now I've just enrolled in OCIA (formly RCIA) at my local Parish.
I'm a Catholic. Your intellectual honesty, speaking in such a frank manner about what you believe are and have been your shortcomings, mistakes you've made, and the reasons why you shouldn't be considered a major apologist are deserving of nothing but respect. I really do enjoy listening to Gavin Ortlund and Dr. Jonathan Cooper btw. Even if I don't always agree with them (and recently less frequently with Dr. Cooper than with Gavin Ortlund), they are great to listen to. God bless.
Have you watched Gavin's video regarding iconography? If so I wonder how you reconcile yourself with the Catholic church and their anathemas against other Christians.
I must say, though I've considered the Roman Catholic church and, less so, the Orthodox churches, you have done much to encourage me to strengthen my faith, learn, study, and know why I believe in what I believe, why I'm a protestant. I am a better Baptist because of you, a better Christian
I was born Catholic in 1984, in 2005 I became Muslim, in 2007 I became Protestant. In 2019 I came back to the Catholic Church. I'm Brazilian and I'm not alone.
@rjltrevisan lol, seeing a Brazilian Muslim is rarer than seeing the funeral for a dwarf. Brazil has more Lebanese than Lebanon but some how so few Muslims. Jesus wasn’t playing in his promise to King Afonso I
I want 1400s-1800s music, architecture and THEOLOGY and speech. A calm pastor is better than a rockstar pastor. Protestant churches should be protestant again. Not non-denominational ted talk rock bands at warehouses. Conservative and pure.
The early church met in people’s homes and hidden areas, why should we focus on architecture? Why should we limit ourselves to certain worship styles, does not the intent of the heart matter?
@@Mammothsaber-4457 the early church also met in fields and synagogues. And God had prophets build the temple of Solomon, as well as field preaching or even a Punic house preaching. God allows house preaching and field preaching. But WHEN it's a temple. We look at Solomon's temple. It's not salvific but it's respect. So it's good to have a nice church. I'm not demanding cathedrals of mass marble and stone. But a very respectable average church. If Americans for example build the capitol in the capital. We can build churches. I'd rather people preach on fields than ugly buildings. Jesus preached at a mountain not a brothel. There was literally a brothel bought in California and turned into a church. 😑
@@Mammothsaber-4457 true, but that was temporary and out of necessity. To worship openly would get them killed, so building an edifice to the Christian God was out of the question. Aside from those few hundred years, where in the bible is worship of God Almighty relegated to hovels with the curtains drawn? Nowhere. Just the opposite. God commanded a temple be build where he resided in the Holy of Holies. As to worship styles (liturgy), St. Justin Martyr described the liturgy and worship service to the Roman Emperor- and it is just about identical to modern Catholic / Orthodox worship. Justin Martyr wasn't describing what worship *ought to be, he was describing how it *was, just a few generations removed from the Apostles. The liturgy was long in use already, even if they weren't yet building grand churches. Worship style is as ancient as the faith itself.
@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 God told David “ Would you build a house for me for me to dwell in? For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Israel up from Egypt even to this day, but have moved in a tent and a tabernacle. Wherever I have moved about with all the children of Israel have I moved about with all the children of Israel have I ever spoken a word to anyone from the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to Shepard my people, saying ‘why have you not made me a house of Cedar’’” ( 2 Samuel 7:5-7). God did not command David to build a temple, he accepted David’s desire to build a temple to him, though it was ultimately Solomon who built the temple since David had blood on his hands as a warrior. The appearance of a church is not as important as the heart that worships in that church for our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit who dwells in us ( 1 Corinthians 19 ). As to worship style, David worshipped God I a way that made him look undignified to others and was blessed for it ( 2 Samuel 6:14-16). Jesus said in John that it matters not where you worship but that you worship him in spirit and truth (John 4:21-24). God does not judge how or where we worship but rather that we worship with our all heart and soul.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 it does not matter where you worship but that you worship with a true heart (John 4:21-24), the disciples worshiped in an upper room and they were baptized with the Holy Spirit. Paul and Silas worshiped in a prison and they were miraculously set free and led their guard and his family to Chris. Jesus ate and dined with sinners prostitutes and tax collectors yet he never rejected their belief, I’ve been to church buildings that were once Mormon temples and movie theaters and I can tell you the worship there was no less authentic than it was in some fancy custom built building. God looks at the heart that’s what matters most to him.
As a non denominational Christian, I will *NEVER* convert to the world's evil, I say *NO* to pride, *NO* to tolerance, and will *NEVER* become accepting of the evil of the end times. As a protestant myself, I see all too many fellow protestants waving the white flag to the world, but I will fight this terrible shift or die trying.
I totally vouch for that. But please don’t think that going to a liberal church to change them from the inside is accepting evil, just like when the atheists went to church to corrupt it, they didn’t do it cause they accepted God, but rather cause they wrre trying to hijack it. This is what Reconquista is about. Hijacking the church back with correct theology
RZ described “classical Protestantism” as saying :baptism saves, we truly eat Jesus during the Eucharist, and that Mary is the mother of God. Bro literally just destroyed 99% of all denominations 💀
"i dont think i kept any people protestant" You kept me tbh. My only struggles is choosing between Anglicanism, Methodism and leaving non-denominationalism church that i actually work for. But i have absolutely no intention becoming eastern or oriental Orthodox or catholic or assyrian church.
@@abominable.7800 Not him but the only reason I am not catholic is that Prayers to saints and an, in my opinion, excessive veneration of Mary does not sit right with me and I don't think it ever will. That's not to say that I do not believe that the saints and Mary especially should not be afforded a place of honor, rather I believe it is problematic to pray towards anyone but god, or the thought that you NEED someone to intercede on your behalf to the omniscient god.
@@TheJman423 Yeah that's why I'm not a Catholic either. God is omnipotent, he hears all, so I don't get intercession. Unless they have actually been granted special privilege by God I don't see how finite humans can hear the prayers directed toward them.
Lets be honest, be it Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox when it comes to the social issues we have today, if you are traditional in any of these traditions, you agree.
I think protestant apologetics are important. Claiming that someone is outside the church is a really big deal and needs to be evaluated as either true or false so we can get to the truth for the sake of our souls. However, I respect this take because the debate honestly has a lot to do with historical claims and scholarship, so even a Catholic or Orthodox (or Protestant of course) shouldn't really be speaking about these issues if they haven't taken the time to really study. It is kinda interesting that Gavin Ortlund is one of the main protestant apologists at this time since he also did not intend originally to do that on TH-cam, but he puts so much effort into intellectual honesty so I'm really glad he ended up in that space.
This. Claiming another Christian is outside the "True Church" is implying they are outside the Body and therefore unsaved.. the arrogance of that belief is one of the main reasons I would never take Catholicism seriously
@@bonivermectin4087 i would take it seriously if it were true but I feel like it would take a lot for me to believe that because I have seen God work through Protestant churches. Also, I have seen numerous people claim in the comments section that they converted to either Catholicism OR Orthodoxy after studying church history, indicating that the issues of a "true denomination" aren't extremely clear. It seems that if there is a one true church, you kinda have to just guess after reading a few church fathers and hope you got the right one
I became christian in december and started to go to a pentecostal church, what I realized is that it doesn't feel right to worship to pop music and just the culture in swedish pentecostal churches. I am also very tired of the young earth creationists within those circles. I am going to become a priest in the church of sweden instead of becomming a pastor in the pentecostal church. I know the church of sweden has some woke things about it but that is also something I want to be able to change back to the way the church should be. Charismatic christianity where we dont even sing psalms only pop songs about Jesus feels so empty and not spiritual at all.
The solution the churches, both Catholic and Protestant, used in Hungary, is to keep the traditional psalms in the church, but organize occasional Christian pop music concerts. But the latter are not in competition with the regular church services, but most often after-church events. Or once per month there is a "special" church service with more modern songs in the church, but with just plain acoustic guitars, no drums or smoke machines etc. It seems to work well so far.
@@praevasc4299 Wait, it is a thing in Hungary? I am only met with in church guitars, but not this big events. Though shame on me I wasn't in church in a long time.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 I'm most familiar with Hungarian churches in neighboring countries with significant Hungarian population. And yes, such events started to become increasingly common.
@DarcyTheManstop I'll be praying for you to become a pastor in the church of Sweden. I don't know too much about Sweden, but I do know that they are one of the more secular countries we have. Godspeed friend!
This video really resonates with me. Two years ago I started studying and researching Protestantism, Catholicism and Orthodoxy; to this day and after all that time I am still a Protestant and I am convinced that it is the “truest” form of Christianity. However, recently I got fed up with all this situation of Catholics VS Protestants, Orthodox VS Protestants and so on. What Zoomer says is very true, there is always a lot of tension and even hatred when people aproach these topics/debates. So, as a personal conviction, I have decided to stop getting so involved in Protestant apologetics and rather, in general Christian apologetics (especially against sects, such as Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses) to defend pure Christianity, so to speak. I think that regardless of our denominational differences, all of us as followers of Jesus can glorify the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in our lives by loving the one who hates us, helping the poor, obeying the commandments of our Lord and expanding the kingdom of God on earth. God bless all my brothers and sisters in Christ around the globe.
LCMS Lutheran churches are generally both traditional and conservative. I did look at the ELCA first and am so glad they split. I did a lot of research into different denominations first. I originally wanted to be Catholic but couldn’t do it (son and family are Catholic). Then I attended my local LCMS church and have found my home.
Damn… I didn’t even know that but thankfully I struck gold with my Lutheran Church, it’s in the LCMS. It’s certainly not Liberal, but it’s also not tunnel-focusing on politics like the conservative Baptist church nearby.
To see if they are conservative and traditional, ask them if they oppose women priest and gay marriage. If they accept both things. Then it’s just a matter of time to them also accept that Jesus not physicially ressurected from the dead.
You mentioned some followers converting to Catholicism. It's good to remember that the overwhelming majority of conversions in the West are away from Catholicism and into either the "none" category or Protestantism. The high profile Protestant to Catholic conversions are quite rare, even if they garner more attention.
@@Jakov-or7fp In terms of conversion, no one is growing. According to recent survey data, Catholicism is down to 20% of the US population from 24% in the 2000's, and most of these don't even regularly attend Mass weekly. Every time you see one high energy conversion video about a single convert story, just remember that Christianity, including Catholicism, has lost tens of millions of believers in America over the last few decades. Online apologetics has done nothing to stop this trend.
Yeah, cause Catholic is a culture more than a religion. I’m my country Brasil. At least 20% of the people self identify as Catholic even though they haven’t walked on a church after the baptism as a 8 days old baby
This is good. As en ex protestant now Catholic, I salute your efforts. Protestantism is often in bad shape, and your focus is clear. Bring back real faith in Christ to the protestants. Most protestants I meet nowadays have a very lukewarm faith except for those more into fundamentalism who have a strong but quite often uninformed faith. May the Holy Spirit guide and direct you in your life's quest. Also I am cheating a bit, as Catholics usually get better when the protestants around them get better...
I like that you called yourself a gateway drug as that is what you were to me and one of the first few channels that led me into learning about theology more.
I am Catholic myself, in my hometown there was practically a church on every corner, both Mainline Protestant and Catholic, all businesses were closed on Sundays and the Churches were packed. That is no longer the case, many of the Churches are closed or demolished or have few attending. What was a healthy community is sadly lost in many towns throughout the United States. I do see a return to tradition among my fellow Catholics and Protestant friends. New Subscriber.
When I was a Pentecostal anti-Catholic, I didn’t even know what orthodox mean. I studied great schism in school but I don’t think I paid too much attention to that. I have no idea what an anti-orthodox Protestant looks like.
@MichaelMayor-i5x I used to see the Orthodox as too similar to Catholic but without a Pope and so they were met with similar disdain. After researching both and talking to people from both traditions, I know that's not the case and they are not my enemies. Some of the most enthusiastic and knowledgeable Christians I've ever met were Catholic and Orthodox.
@@MichaelMayor-i5x We don't have any historical conflict or quarrel with Orthodoxy. We have some theological differences, but we also have some theological differences with each other. I think Oriental Orthodoxy is better than Eastern Orthodoxy. Even though they don't accept all of the ecumenical councils, they are more similar to us theologically than Eastern Orthodoxy, and certainly closer than Roman Catholicism.
@@Procopius464 it^s funny you said that the Oriental Orthodoxy is better even though they don’t accept EO all the ecumenical councils. But protestants don’t accept it either, cause in the 7th ecumenical council it was established that iconoclasm was false, but all protestants are iconoclasts, not only the evangelical, but even the traditional.
@@MichaelMayor-i5x I don't think you know much about the original Protestant movements. The Lutheran view on the ecumenical councils is that they are correct because they agree with the Bible, but are not infallible because they were written by men. So we don't have a problem with the OO for not accepting all of the councils, because they do accept the Bible which is more important than any of the councils. Also, in my church we have an actual Crucifix in the front. So I don't know how that makes us iconoclast. The older traditional churches will make use of stained glass windows depicting Jesus and the apostles. Some types of Protestants think it's wrong to have images of any sorts in the church, like the Puritans, and to a lesser extent Baptists. The debate over the appropriateness of images is an old one, and it's one that's still going on with some Protestant factions. Personally I prefer an elaborate church. My main concern with EO is that a lot of them teach that you have to be in their church to be saved. This is not a Biblical teaching, and it's also dangerous, because putting your faith in anything other than Jesus leads to destruction.
There are no divisions in Heaven so I hope to see you there and I pray to be there too! God bless! By the way, my last plug, the Institute of Catholic Culture offers free theology classes taught by professors at various universities. There are quite a few Protestants in the course I am taking now on patristics. That covers the period where we were truly one, for the most part. Maybe you want to join us along with other Protestants. We all just want to learn more about God.
According to Protestantism we all should interpret this verse personally, but I just can’t think in what this sentence is supposed to mean. Do you have any idea and can share with me ?
@@MichaelMayor-i5xyou as a Christian will be judged first. Either walk the walk or GOD will place you on a side. Either for GOD or the world. Can't have both. I learned. Your choice will be made of you fence sit
Your videos have helped me rediscover my love for Christ. You give simple clear explanations to complicated topics. I am one of your viewers that went from being a skeptic and a doubter and not going to church, to exploring denominations and different churches, to returning to Catholicism but I truly believe the Holy spirit is working through you to help people rediscover their love for Christ. Cheers
Saw the horrific news on Twitter 😢😢😢 In all seriousness, though, good luck on your new path, man. I used to just have your videos playing in the background because I found them very interesting!
Not a Protestant. I love your channel because you do such a good job explaining Protestantism for me. Glad to hear you're making my primary interest in your channel your main thing.
As a fellow protestant, yet really admiring and considering becoming Catholic, you unironically have shown me the light that was Catholicism and Orthodoxy in a world full of great (and not so great) churches and denoms. But always missing something.
@@apostolicapologetics4829 Q1: Whether it's indulgences in the 16th century, or the abuse scandals of the 20th/21st, the common thread is a massive bureaucracy that will always try to preserve its own power and avoid accountability. It's always been the power structure of the RCC that has enabled its worst abuses, not faithful Catholic lay-persons. Q2: Congregationalist, but I could easily go for Presbyterian/Continental Reformed.
I may not agree with you on everything Zoomer but I’ve always loved your content. You’ve always been educational and relatable in your presentation of the gospel. From one zoomer to another keep it up man, God bless 🙏🏻
@@jr8260He was never that good, there is No Victory If Mike Tyson Beats Up a above avarage Guy and the Guy stops fighting, Just Like Zoomer stopping debating, he's a above avarage debater but Not a great one, there is no Victory to be celebrated
Love you clarifying this. Still not tracking why being contemporary is bad… most traditions were once… contemporary 😂😂😂 if we’re talking about the sacraments and beauty, that exists in some non denominational churches.
I appreciate your humbleness and openness, especially after 2:30 where you make the point of you not being qualified. Recognizing your flaws and where you lack and being honest about that is commendable.
Thanks for being genuine sir. Im a Baptist and though I don't always agree with your takes I greatly appreciate your God-given ministry in making faith more easy for the new generations to understand. I felt your videos about church history and introducing what each denomination is all about are your best ones. May God continue to bless your ministry! o7 Edit: I'd like to add the simple explanation of what each book of the Bible is all about among your best videos.
The thing about protestantism, as far as I understand it, is that your don't have to follow the Church. If the Church becomes corrupt, it doesn't corrupt the faith. In Catholicism, however, the Church IS the faith. The Pope sets the course. And the current Pope is perhaps the most anti-Catholic Pope in a long while. And that is the main reason I don't agree with Catholicism. But I like how you put it. "Help Protestants become more Protestant." Yeah, there's a definite need for that.
When two or more are gathered in His name, He is among them. That is even true online and across branches of Christianity. Also, yes, you are probably not as educated or (maybe) as smart as let's say Jimmy Akin or Jordan Cooper, but then again, neither am I. I just watched a discussion between the two of them, and it left me bewildered. Your videos, on the other hand, always teach me something.
Redeemed Zoomer, Great video. I’m a Catholic who loves your content. The West is in need of faithful Christians who will stand up for the traditional faith. I wish you great success in the reconquista. It is sad that humans were not able to preserve the Church that Christ started. As a Catholic I lament that we have lost so much from the centuries of division and disunity. Sincerely, it would be better to have Protestant traditions that uphold their historical beliefs than to have the liberalized Unitarian versions to which it seems many have devolved. From my admittedly biased perspective, it is not surprising. When the authority of the Church was thrown out. Protestants started down a slippery slope of private interpretation and moral relativism. I pray that it can be reversed. God bless you.
If it means anything, thanks to the Holy Ghost who brought me to your channel, I found my new church home in the Lutheran faith thanks to your map and I was once a Catholic.
Not sure if you've already talked or heard about this, but have you considered partnering with a group like 9marks? They're based in Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington DC, and their goal is to have a network of sorts to make churches healthy again. The Pastor of the church wrote a book "9 Marks of a Healthy Church," and that's sort of where they started. It is definitely more Baptist leaning (which I am) but our church prays for Anglican / other denominational faithful churches in our area. It just crossed my mind since they also have a church search feature, of which you'll find Baptist and Presbyterian churches as well. Not sure if you weren't aware of their existence, or aren't interested for whatever reason but maybe there's potential there to partner with them in some way to help save mainline denominations!
Seconding this statement, I actually found my home church through 9marks and to see RZ work with them to make a multi-denominational search and locator that isn't just Baptist would be an amazing thing.
@@CoryW-h3q What I realize now that I couldnt back then was that He was always with me, It was me that was turning my back on HIm (hence the "journey"). He loves us so much, that if we choose to deny Him, He let's us. But just like it was a choice of mine to walk away, by His grace and mercy, I decided to open my heart to Him. I began to seek Him out, to find out His story, His commandments, to get to know Him through prayer and fasting. This is where Zoomer comes in. Zoomer, along with many others in my newfound fervor for the Lord, helped explain things I never understood about Jesus, the Bible, and its History. And so...there's no other way to say it but He reveled Himself to me, through all of it. I have no doubt in the Lord now, I fully Trust in Him, and Love Him. I was His lost sheep, and He loves me so much, He knocked on my heart so loud i could not deny it. I am not worthy, and yet, He loves me, and for that, I will forever be gratefull.
Thank you for this and I am most grateful. I have literally just tried (an hour or so ago on a different site) to expound in a comment exactly what your video states. It was not a bad effort, but as usual those that feel they must ‘protect’ have immediately come out and misconstrued what I was saying. As a protestant I object to protestants calling out brothers and sisters in Christ who may be Catholic. I used the exact teaching of Christ to “take the log out of your own eye etc”. Western protestantism is in a very difficult area where certain false leadership is attempting to enforce non Christian beliefs into that community. However, we cannot escape that if we just say “yes, but look at what the Pope just said”? Make that make sense. However, well said Brother and I agree with you, we have to sort house.
I'm a Lutheran because I believe we have the tradition closest to the original Church founded by Christ...that being said, frankly, anyone who believes in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist is legit to me. I have more in common with a Catholic than I do with an atheist. I will never stand against my brothers and sisters in Christ. We may have theological differences, but those are relatively minor compared to the secularist, borderline evil ideologies that control modern societies
Part of the issue I'm seeing is that there has been more understanding one way than the other. As a protestant in the more evangelical space, it really does feel degrading to my personal experience, my testimony, and how God has impacted me when the older traditional churches do happen to just attack our forms of worship and expressions of faith because its not "trad enough". Criticism and teasing is one thing, but even as a minority the most vocal voices are still the ones being heard.
As a Presbyterian, I sort of enjoy the discourse in Protestantism and some rebellion from churches. I’m a huge advocate of Sola Scriptura and I fundamentally believe that man is sinful and fallible, and therefore institutions of man, such as Churches, are corruptible. By questioning the churches, and exploring the faith thru scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we are acting as true Protestants. Salvation is achieve thru faith alone, no man and no church can ever grant salvation.
Other clarifications:
1. Yes I'm still doing Reconquista, in fact I'm gonna start Reconquista-ing much HARDER now that I won't be wasting time arguing with Catholics
2. Yes I'll still teach on historic Protestantism, but only to help get people educated, not to try and argue for it contra Catholicism/Orthodoxy
Q: Did protestants historically believe in free grace?
That’s such a big relief to hear.
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I have really learned a lot from your videos. I would like to drop the idea of you putting your information into printable documents that can be purchased. I am a note taker and it would be great to have some of the graphs/charts/dates/symbols/visuals that you show on your slides. They would be wonderful to reference. Just a thought! Thanks for all you do! ✝️
tbf as a Minecraft youtuber, you've probably herded more sheep than many pastors
make this the most liked comment for no reason
edit: bro how so many dang likes? Thx tho
Okay as long as my reply becomes the most liked reply
@@Sderror404 I got you bro
Then edit your comment so nobody knows why we liked it
Brothers! Unite around this comment!
Yooooo!
A house divided cannot stand. -Jesus
It's better that we all listen to each other and not have an "Us vs Them" mentallity when discussing other denomenations.
Heads up: "they" don't see it like that, and they would prefer that "YOU" not exist.
Hell is getting closer and closer to prevailing against the gates because of people like you.
“A house divided cannot stand”- Almost like Protestants should stop apostatizing from the house.
@dinugs4052 look at you, poking the beams holding up the roof.
@@dinugs4052if you want protestants to stop leaving established denominations, maybe stop committing acts of heresy?
Alternatively, we could all set aside our bad blood and worship the God who created us and loves us
@@dinugs4052You're a Catholic not because of any of their doctrines, but because you saw a pretty church.
Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox, we’re all united in Christ. ✝️☦️⛪️
Denominational infighting is stupid.
@@Pepethefrog-rm1ud amen
@@imperialbricks1977except Catholic and Orthodox doctrine is not Biblical!
@@vickihogan8207 The Church Fathers would disagree 😘
@@vickihogan8207c'mon man, you put this under a comment about Christians being united instead of fighting each other
I think your skillset isn't necessarily geared toward debate and polemic stuff. What you are truly talented at is popularization. You take big ideas and make them digestible for the masses, and I'm not sure of anyone online who can do it as well as you. I see what you're trying to do and I appreciate it. And may God favour your re-conversion of the mainline.
Amen
I agree.
He's an orator. He only satisfies the passions of those he speaks to. He doesn't need to be right.
It would still be good for him to study the Church Fathers and Patristics. The form of Christianity he professes to subscribe to is couched in these.
Agreed. Yet, I’m glad that he went through this whole apologetic phase because now he’s prepared to answer a great variety of questions if he ever meets someone who needs those questions answered of encounter another situation where he needs to use that knowledge.
Catholic here. All Christians must stand together against the evil of this world. I hope all come to the Catholic Church, but i love you all.
I love my fellow Catholic Brothers and sisters in Christ however I'm very happy to stay at the Episcopal Church. The Episcopal Church that I attend is in between moderate and conservative.
@@2010Juve Protestants can't stand against the evil of the world because many of them are part of it. They simply don't have the grace of God. Protestantism was the slippery slope that led to the mess we're in after all.
Pentacostal here. Much love to our Catholic brothers and sisters! We may not agree on church politic but we are united in the body of Christ first and foremost. Forever I will stand with you against the enemy and his minions. We are all under attack outside and in. We all have a lot of work to do and we can put a pin in the fun debates for now. We got souls that need the gospel and pagans at the gates, so roll up those sleeves and lets get to it!
This kind of mentality sounds nice on paper but we don't stand side by side with heretics, protestants or otherwise. Would you stand side by side with a nesotorian against the 'evil of the world, no they are part of the evil in this world and working with then is heretical
Presbyterian here. Love you all.
Orthobro here. I know it can be hard to say "hey this was a bad path im going rediect" and im disappointed that some online Catholics, Orhtodox and even some protestant voices cheered your rediect as if it was a victory. i am glad you are working to fix reformed protestantism and i do agree it would be better for everyone to focus on that which most people arent focus on and less on defending protestantism which is covered.
I do hope you consider seminary school. And good luck on your project.
If your orthodox you should recognize him as a source of leading people astray, protestants are heretics and the less people given false information the better
Larper 😂
@@owlpatrol8376you Sound Like laroer yourself
Why stay reformed when you go back to the true one there should be no “fixing” here how can you be in communion with the right Church and say the wrong thing.
@owlpatrol8376 If your church established a branch in Japan or China, would you say they are larping as Americans or say, "Thank God they found the truth!"?
I have found the truth and I don't care if it's alien or strange to my culture. If you wish to find the truth come larp with me.
Your videos have made it to Japan! One of my students, who isn't a believer in anything, was excited to share Redeemed Zoomer with me. Great work with an impressive level of detail presented in nice, concise packages. Balance is everything, keep enjoying what you are like doing and God will take care of the rest.
Great testimony. Hoping they go deeper and eventually find faith in the Lord.
@@TheSeeking2know Thank you for your kind words indeed may they find faith in Christ. Japan a hard land for the Lord's truth to take hold, yet local Church even though small in number are full of love for our great God. Have a wonderful day/night TheSeeking2know from JP🗾
Three self patriotic movement Zoomer coming
Haters will say this will never happen
Redeemed Zoomer quitting apologetics will be remembered for centuries
Tbf, he's still doing Christian apologetics, just not Protestant apologetics
@@kze24 I was supposed to say "generations" so I screwed up the meme anyway
@@DruckerYTA Did you screw it up, or is it just a prophecy waiting to happen?
Basically he's saying he doesn't want to do Catholics vs Protestant apologetics anymore. That's it.
Will be remembered for minutes *
Im a converting Christian from an Islamic background raised in tunisia catholic orthodox and protestant we're all one in christ please stop fighting for some theological differences when people die without knowing our lord and when extreme secularism and atheism grows rapidly..
Wake up please we are united in christ we need to love and accept each other even when we disagree ❤🙏
We must just fix each overs problems and become more similar so that we are 100 percent united in Christ
God bless you brother, jesus loves you
God bless you, keep following the commandments of Christ and loving your neighbor
May God in Christ lighten your path and be with you in all your sufferings and joys.
Matthew 22:36-40
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Divided we fall, United we stand, infighting between denominations is a plot from the enemy to distract us and to divide us when in reality we are all under one Kingdom and One God Trinity.
As a catholic i can reliably say Protestants and their zeal brought me back to Christianity and i returned home to the catholic church with a fire unlike anything else. Protestants give you the fire and Catholicism remind you of history and fullness of the church. Thank you RZ.
I believe every church has its truths and deceptions (as a reflection of the imperfect humans that make it up)
And that we all have a lot to learn from every branch of Christianity (so long as it doesn't breach essential doctrines such as Jesus being the son of God, and the Trinity)
@@joelsweeney4024 every church takes from something and only one (two) predate the bible. Research pentecost more then rethink your man made "corruption"
This is exactly what's happening in a muslim majority Indonesia where Christians are minority, Christians living in Christian majority county need to understand how important it is to taking care of each other.
It's not unusual for Muslims to learn the basic of Trinity etc from Protestant courses, smaller churches before they decided to join either Catholic or Orthodox Church. God bless you.
Me after watch The Chosen
Catholicism is spiritually dead. Thats why you needed protestantism to bring you back to life. Catholicism doesnt have the fullness of the church because it severely lacks God’s Holy Spirit.
I'm one of those followers that is converting to Roman Catholic. You were a gateway drug to me wanting to learn more about the Church, and I thank you very much for contributing to my elementary education on that subject. Peace and Love to you Brother, I know you've taken jabs at Catholicism, but I've always seen it as a sibling playfully smack-talking instead of an enemy attacking. I see your mission as important, more faithful protestants is good for the world. I hope that they would all come home eventually, but I'd rather have faithful protestants than semi-secular liberals 100% of the time.
Check out Eastern orthodoxy
@@JORA52 Just more works-based salvation 😐
Edit: To respond to everyone, I'm talking about those who believe that one must "live out" their faith in order for it to be "justified" in the eyes of God; which is just a fancy way of saying that your works have anything to do with salvation, which is unbiblical. Many Orthodox and Catholics believe in this false version of faith, while many in these denominations also believe in the truth, despite this. My comment is speaking about the abundance of people who DO believe in the false doctrine of works + faith, not generalizing or saying that the church's statements of faith necessarily agree with it. Orthodoxy and Catholicism, or at the least, many within it, tend to promote this false doctrine, hence why I would be amiss to recommend it as a first choice of denomination.
To be clear: Faith is alone what saves us (hopefully I mustn't explain how, or why this is necessary), and works come from genuine faith; HOWEVER, those works have nothing to do with actually SAVING us; if I had faith but no works, I'd still be saved. It's just unlikely such would occur, as works reflect genuine faith.
@@limejelo it's not purely works based
@@JORA52no they can’t hold a council, and are back and forth on contraception, divorce, etc. it’s like Protestantism. Pick a church who agrees
It’s not really works based at all unless you straw man it. Orthodox completely believe you are saved by the grace of god alone, but that grace leads to becoming christ like, and being christ like includes doing good works.
as a Catholic I honestly appreciate you being charitable when discussing classical Christianity. I also appreciate seeing the other side and I respect your beliefs. We all must work together to defeat the REAL enemy, liberalism and anti-christian culture
Amen 🙏
I think this is a good idea brother. Your strength is in your ministry. The Reconquista, not in debating.
Focusing on your ministry is much more fruitful.
Love ya man, God bless you. Will always be praying for you
- DJ
You did represent Catholics well on your faith series video. Thank you and good luck!
the most evil organization to ever exist
As a Roman Catholic I appreciate you. Never considered you hostile for having different beliefs.
@@tuckerbugeaterHow so?
@@tuckerbugeaterthe organization that does the single most service to others?
Thankyou for your opinion but once catholic always catholic. Ave Ave Christus Rex@@tuckerbugeater
God bless you Redeemed Zoomer! You have done such a great job at spreading the gospel to so many people, keep doing what you feel you do best! 🙏🏻✝️
That took a decent amount of humility and a good amount of honesty...respect you a ton for it
This is very humble of you, Brother. Thank you for your honesty. Thank you also for pointing to those who are more qualified. God bless and keep you, RZ.
Not everyone is Mike Winger, and that's okay. Not everyone has time to make a 2-hour video answering 20 different questions about Christianity.
To each their own y'know? Everyone's got a gift
@@sirllamaiii9708 Just as Paul says, we are each different parts of the body with our own unique purpose. Not everyone is a foot and not everyone is a hand.
Tbf Winger is also terrible at arguing against Catholicism.
You biggest problem is your belief in the blasphemous trinity, a fourth century invention. Protestantism is just another branch of Trinitarianism and is corrupt. Abandon the false creeds, turn to the Jesus creed in Mark 12, the Shema. You should try chat with Sir Anthony Buzzard, you would learn far more from him than any seminary
Mike winger is a nerd
As a Brazilian Catholic I do think this was a good decision in your part. It's also true that we are in a much worse state here. Let's get our Churches back!
This video made me realize how strong of a New York accent Zoomer has.
As a former anti-Catholic Protestant turned Catholic apologist, I can respect this.
As a Catholic we really need to get our own house in order. The liturgy wars… and the fact I see more pope bashing from Catholics than non-Catholics now.
Based
Same, former Protestants make the best Catholics.
This guy makes sense. Love builds up.
@@crispminer cucked
Definitely respect trying to avoid fostering hostility, it's a big problem in the church. I understand it's important, these issues that divide us, but not more important than the core of Christian faith
John 17:20-23
I’m Catholic. Your videos are great. Very fascinating.
❤️
Bro suddenly owned that Italian NY accent
Word 😂😂😂😂
lmao thought I was the only one who noticed that
@@davidcarvalho5003 it’s funny cause it makes him sound way more fed - up than he is lol
As a catholic I LOVE how strong you are, if I only do half of the job you are doing, I really struggle of laziness and looking at you is like, wow, a young man that looks like want to love Christ with his heart, God bless you
You know, one of the most important things that keep me out of protestantism is why they don't confess their sins to a priest while the early christians did it, that is something that I don't undestand
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because I confess in secret, directly.
Is confession to an elder in scripture? I don't believe so. Is it a requirement for salvation? No.
If the early church did it then is it consistent? From my study not much is consistent outside in the early church. The earliest churches - closest to the apostles - faltered in scripture - like the addition of work, circumcision, to the gospel of salvation by grace and through faith.
@blissseeker4719 Jesus tell his apostles that he’s giving them the power to forgive sins.
Unless you think that this power was exclusive to the apostles and they didn’t give it to the bishops and priest they ordained, so I don’t see how confessing to a priest isn’t biblical
Lutherans do bro
RZ I just want to thank you for helping me in my introduction to orthodoxy, you're the first youtuber I watched that actually made me question protestant beliefs.
This guy cathpilled tbh but it was Trent Horn that made me see the issues with protestantism and the beauty of the Catholic church.
@@rayhanakram9912Sameish, Gavin Ortlund and Mike Winger didn't really defend protestantism well
@@catholic_zoomer_brsame as well
@@abominable.7800 Ever watch Joshua Schooping or “The failure of Eastern Orthodoxy”?
You should continue defending & teaching traditional protestantism . While at the same time trying to make protestantism better today .
I'm not good at it tho lol
@@redeemedzoomer6053 you are good . just don’t go start debates with Catholics & orthodox . You can also go sharpened your knowledge of traditional protestantism by like talking to people that are more knowledgeable about traditional protestantism then you are .
@@redeemedzoomer6053 you can defend and teach something that you believe in without bashing anyone. Except Islam & non-Christians because they are obviously false believes .
@redeemedzoomer6053
You're a smart dude, Zoomer. The problem is Protestantism is indefensible.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 You actually are. You're very well spoken and clear, charitable to opposing views/sides, can simplify complex topics to make them easier to understand in a fun way. I appreciate the feeling of wanting to stop what you feel is dividing our family of believers. Each side demonizes and doesn't listen to the other side. Not everyone, but as a general statement.
Don't stop making content on TH-cam, bro. Your videos have greatly helped me to learn and understand so much about my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who are of different denominations by discussing both the differences and similarities in a very charitable and fair way, which has helped me to come to a similar conclusion as you: to stop demonizing and fighting other denomination. To get rid of the "Us vs Them" mentality and sympathize and empathize and genuinely listen to someone with differing viewpoints. To consider them a person just like me who is a beggar who has found living bread in Jesus Christ instead of focusing on being right and "winning" the argument.
I get what you mean, to stop defending Protestantism against Catholics/Orthodox, but I really hope you consider and think about continuing to make content about Christianity in general. Again, your videos on the different denominations has been invaluable, but I mean you could begin to cover some of the many other topics related to Christianity besides denominational differences. Even if you do decided to make something about denominations or a video that would include discussing differences between any denominations, I know that you'll do so in a very charitable, fair, and fun way.
Love you bro and keep up the good work for the kingdom and for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Peace
Guys, Catholic Zoomer any day now.
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I'd unsubscribe
the more we Catholics leave post like this the more he wont out of spite
me when I'm in an idolotry competition and my oppenent is a Catholic: 😮
I hope lol
I've seen what's coming out of seminary these days... You're doing way better than most.
I go to a seminary and can confidently say that there are still good ones out there, but yeah as an aggregate the quality of seminary education has steeply declined.
@@johngalt5166 I'm literally going through text books being used at Columbia that are more Marx than Mark.
@@joesouthwell4080good one.
@@joesouthwell4080 Yeah Ivy Leagues and high ranking schools are the worst for sure.
Semitary* school
Bro I get it ❤️ every denomination is becoming more and more progressive in the wrong ways. Tradition is thrown out the window. The church I go to now is non-denominational but my real walk with Christ is personal and with my family obviously my beliefs are the ones found in the Bible nowhere else
I'm lucky my (non denom) church still clings to biblical values, just not at the most literal (i.e. no radical LGBTQ acceptance but also not saying to stone people)
All non denominational churchs ruin the world
I found your channel to learn more about Christianity and it's been so helpful. Was baptized in June at the non-denominational church my family goes to, and now I've just enrolled in OCIA (formly RCIA) at my local Parish.
same! joining the church in 2025
Same bro! Since I haven't been baptized I have to wait until 2026 but I'm excited.
@@dryayman1884 Why do you have to wait until 2026?
I'm baptist, and I love your content. Keep it up! ❤
I'm a Catholic. Your intellectual honesty, speaking in such a frank manner about what you believe are and have been your shortcomings, mistakes you've made, and the reasons why you shouldn't be considered a major apologist are deserving of nothing but respect.
I really do enjoy listening to Gavin Ortlund and Dr. Jonathan Cooper btw. Even if I don't always agree with them (and recently less frequently with Dr. Cooper than with Gavin Ortlund), they are great to listen to.
God bless.
Have you watched Gavin's video regarding iconography? If so I wonder how you reconcile yourself with the Catholic church and their anathemas against other Christians.
@@blissseeker4719 I said I enjoy listening to him. I didn't say I agree with his heretical positions.
I must say, though I've considered the Roman Catholic church and, less so, the Orthodox churches, you have done much to encourage me to strengthen my faith, learn, study, and know why I believe in what I believe, why I'm a protestant.
I am a better Baptist because of you, a better Christian
Baptist are heretics
@@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613 because?
@@Simplement_Chrétien Baptists are Calvinist and the reason why Presbyterian Church is also heretical
@@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613Baptists are NOT Calvinist.
@@fighterofthenightman1057 they share the same views as the puritans, how are they not Calvinist?
Hey man, really respect you and your goodwill. Thanks for aiming for the good and not just controversy and likes. God guide you
You've got an incredible level of humility my brother! God bless you
I was born Catholic in 1984, in 2005 I became Muslim, in 2007 I became Protestant. In 2019 I came back to the Catholic Church. I'm Brazilian and I'm not alone.
@rjltrevisan lol, seeing a Brazilian Muslim is rarer than seeing the funeral for a dwarf. Brazil has more Lebanese than Lebanon but some how so few Muslims. Jesus wasn’t playing in his promise to King Afonso I
@@MichaelMayor-i5x I was through some Turkish friends who came here to make a school. And your knowledge of Luso-Brazilian culture is commendable!
@@rjltrevisan Hue ?
I want 1400s-1800s music, architecture and THEOLOGY and speech. A calm pastor is better than a rockstar pastor. Protestant churches should be protestant again. Not non-denominational ted talk rock bands at warehouses. Conservative and pure.
The early church met in people’s homes and hidden areas, why should we focus on architecture? Why should we limit ourselves to certain worship styles, does not the intent of the heart matter?
@@Mammothsaber-4457 the early church also met in fields and synagogues.
And God had prophets build the temple of Solomon, as well as field preaching or even a Punic house preaching.
God allows house preaching and field preaching. But WHEN it's a temple. We look at Solomon's temple.
It's not salvific but it's respect. So it's good to have a nice church.
I'm not demanding cathedrals of mass marble and stone. But a very respectable average church.
If Americans for example build the capitol in the capital. We can build churches.
I'd rather people preach on fields than ugly buildings.
Jesus preached at a mountain not a brothel.
There was literally a brothel bought in California and turned into a church. 😑
@@Mammothsaber-4457 true, but that was temporary and out of necessity. To worship openly would get them killed, so building an edifice to the Christian God was out of the question. Aside from those few hundred years, where in the bible is worship of God Almighty relegated to hovels with the curtains drawn? Nowhere. Just the opposite. God commanded a temple be build where he resided in the Holy of Holies.
As to worship styles (liturgy), St. Justin Martyr described the liturgy and worship service to the Roman Emperor- and it is just about identical to modern Catholic / Orthodox worship. Justin Martyr wasn't describing what worship *ought to be, he was describing how it *was, just a few generations removed from the Apostles. The liturgy was long in use already, even if they weren't yet building grand churches. Worship style is as ancient as the faith itself.
@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 God told David “ Would you build a house for me for me to dwell in? For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Israel up from Egypt even to this day, but have moved in a tent and a tabernacle. Wherever I have moved about with all the children of Israel have I moved about with all the children of Israel have I ever spoken a word to anyone from the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to Shepard my people, saying ‘why have you not made me a house of Cedar’’” ( 2 Samuel 7:5-7). God did not command David to build a temple, he accepted David’s desire to build a temple to him, though it was ultimately Solomon who built the temple since David had blood on his hands as a warrior. The appearance of a church is not as important as the heart that worships in that church for our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit who dwells in us ( 1 Corinthians 19 ). As to worship style, David worshipped God I a way that made him look undignified to others and was blessed for it ( 2 Samuel 6:14-16). Jesus said in John that it matters not where you worship but that you worship him in spirit and truth (John 4:21-24). God does not judge how or where we worship but rather that we worship with our all heart and soul.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 it does not matter where you worship but that you worship with a true heart (John 4:21-24), the disciples worshiped in an upper room and they were baptized with the Holy Spirit. Paul and Silas worshiped in a prison and they were miraculously set free and led their guard and his family to Chris. Jesus ate and dined with sinners prostitutes and tax collectors yet he never rejected their belief, I’ve been to church buildings that were once Mormon temples and movie theaters and I can tell you the worship there was no less authentic than it was in some fancy custom built building. God looks at the heart that’s what matters most to him.
As a non denominational Christian, I will *NEVER* convert to the world's evil, I say *NO* to pride, *NO* to tolerance, and will *NEVER* become accepting of the evil of the end times. As a protestant myself, I see all too many fellow protestants waving the white flag to the world, but I will fight this terrible shift or die trying.
I totally vouch for that. But please don’t think that going to a liberal church to change them from the inside is accepting evil, just like when the atheists went to church to corrupt it, they didn’t do it cause they accepted God, but rather cause they wrre trying to hijack it. This is what Reconquista is about. Hijacking the church back with correct theology
Do you accept rock and roll in your church? Also, how are you a Protestant if you're non-denominational?
@@Procopius464 he’s a protestant in a vague sense like mormons, jehova witness and adventists of the seven day are protestants
Well said, and keep the content flowing brother. Much love and God bless.
This is truly a game changing moment.
Abe Lincoln...................
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Would you say... Mind blowing?
@@jupitergolden yup
@@jupitergoldenmore like… LIBERATING
RZ described “classical Protestantism” as saying :baptism saves, we truly eat Jesus during the Eucharist, and that Mary is the mother of God.
Bro literally just destroyed 99% of all denominations 💀
And 99% of the Reformers affirmed that.
Whatever it is, it's not biblical.
He isn't wrong for the most part. I mean, "baptism saves" kind of leaves out the Sola Fide part, but where is he wrong?
Well as a non-denom, he destroyed just baptists and non-denoms
Yeah, but he destroyed 99% of baptists and non-denominational churches
"i dont think i kept any people protestant"
You kept me tbh.
My only struggles is choosing between Anglicanism, Methodism and leaving non-denominationalism church that i actually work for.
But i have absolutely no intention becoming eastern or oriental Orthodox or catholic or assyrian church.
why not? out of curiosity
@@abominable.7800 Not him but the only reason I am not catholic is that Prayers to saints and an, in my opinion, excessive veneration of Mary does not sit right with me and I don't think it ever will. That's not to say that I do not believe that the saints and Mary especially should not be afforded a place of honor, rather I believe it is problematic to pray towards anyone but god, or the thought that you NEED someone to intercede on your behalf to the omniscient god.
Looking into lutheranism and anglican for me. Currently more particular baptist
@@TheJman423 Yeah that's why I'm not a Catholic either. God is omnipotent, he hears all, so I don't get intercession. Unless they have actually been granted special privilege by God I don't see how finite humans can hear the prayers directed toward them.
@@abominable.7800 not enough autonomy in Catholicism. But I do praise Catholicism for being very multiracial.
Lets be honest, be it Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox when it comes to the social issues we have today, if you are traditional in any of these traditions, you agree.
I think protestant apologetics are important. Claiming that someone is outside the church is a really big deal and needs to be evaluated as either true or false so we can get to the truth for the sake of our souls. However, I respect this take because the debate honestly has a lot to do with historical claims and scholarship, so even a Catholic or Orthodox (or Protestant of course) shouldn't really be speaking about these issues if they haven't taken the time to really study. It is kinda interesting that Gavin Ortlund is one of the main protestant apologists at this time since he also did not intend originally to do that on TH-cam, but he puts so much effort into intellectual honesty so I'm really glad he ended up in that space.
This. Claiming another Christian is outside the "True Church" is implying they are outside the Body and therefore unsaved.. the arrogance of that belief is one of the main reasons I would never take Catholicism seriously
@@bonivermectin4087 i would take it seriously if it were true but I feel like it would take a lot for me to believe that because I have seen God work through Protestant churches. Also, I have seen numerous people claim in the comments section that they converted to either Catholicism OR Orthodoxy after studying church history, indicating that the issues of a "true denomination" aren't extremely clear. It seems that if there is a one true church, you kinda have to just guess after reading a few church fathers and hope you got the right one
I became christian in december and started to go to a pentecostal church, what I realized is that it doesn't feel right to worship to pop music and just the culture in swedish pentecostal churches. I am also very tired of the young earth creationists within those circles. I am going to become a priest in the church of sweden instead of becomming a pastor in the pentecostal church.
I know the church of sweden has some woke things about it but that is also something I want to be able to change back to the way the church should be. Charismatic christianity where we dont even sing psalms only pop songs about Jesus feels so empty and not spiritual at all.
The solution the churches, both Catholic and Protestant, used in Hungary, is to keep the traditional psalms in the church, but organize occasional Christian pop music concerts. But the latter are not in competition with the regular church services, but most often after-church events. Or once per month there is a "special" church service with more modern songs in the church, but with just plain acoustic guitars, no drums or smoke machines etc. It seems to work well so far.
@@praevasc4299 Wait, it is a thing in Hungary? I am only met with in church guitars, but not this big events. Though shame on me I wasn't in church in a long time.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 I'm most familiar with Hungarian churches in neighboring countries with significant Hungarian population. And yes, such events started to become increasingly common.
@DarcyTheManstop I'll be praying for you to become a pastor in the church of Sweden. I don't know too much about Sweden, but I do know that they are one of the more secular countries we have. Godspeed friend!
I don’t see the problem with worshipping in a pop style? As long as you’re worshipping God what does it matter which style of music you choose?
This video really resonates with me. Two years ago I started studying and researching Protestantism, Catholicism and Orthodoxy; to this day and after all that time I am still a Protestant and I am convinced that it is the “truest” form of Christianity. However, recently I got fed up with all this situation of Catholics VS Protestants, Orthodox VS Protestants and so on. What Zoomer says is very true, there is always a lot of tension and even hatred when people aproach these topics/debates. So, as a personal conviction, I have decided to stop getting so involved in Protestant apologetics and rather, in general Christian apologetics (especially against sects, such as Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses) to defend pure Christianity, so to speak. I think that regardless of our denominational differences, all of us as followers of Jesus can glorify the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in our lives by loving the one who hates us, helping the poor, obeying the commandments of our Lord and expanding the kingdom of God on earth. God bless all my brothers and sisters in Christ around the globe.
we have Islam taking Europe .time to act like a Body and defend humanity from the storm that Islam will bring , once again.
I see that ring bro, congratulations! I wish you and your wife a lifetime of happiness : )
LCMS Lutheran churches are generally both traditional and conservative. I did look at the ELCA first and am so glad they split. I did a lot of research into different denominations first. I originally wanted to be Catholic but couldn’t do it (son and family are Catholic). Then I attended my local LCMS church and have found my home.
But they abandoned the episcopate! Bring it back!
only a tiny and insignificant portion of the ELCA came from seminex. The LCMS came from a split from the German church.
Damn… I didn’t even know that but thankfully I struck gold with my Lutheran Church, it’s in the LCMS. It’s certainly not Liberal, but it’s also not tunnel-focusing on politics like the conservative Baptist church nearby.
To see if they are conservative and traditional, ask them if they oppose women priest and gay marriage.
If they accept both things. Then it’s just a matter of time to them also accept that Jesus not physicially ressurected from the dead.
@@MichaelMayor-i5x LCMS rejects both.
You mentioned some followers converting to Catholicism. It's good to remember that the overwhelming majority of conversions in the West are away from Catholicism and into either the "none" category or Protestantism. The high profile Protestant to Catholic conversions are quite rare, even if they garner more attention.
also i really believe some people are telling him that just in hopes to piss him off
Chatholicism is still growing faster than protestantism in the US If I heard right
@@Jakov-or7fpOnly by immigration, not conversion.
@@Jakov-or7fp In terms of conversion, no one is growing. According to recent survey data, Catholicism is down to 20% of the US population from 24% in the 2000's, and most of these don't even regularly attend Mass weekly. Every time you see one high energy conversion video about a single convert story, just remember that Christianity, including Catholicism, has lost tens of millions of believers in America over the last few decades. Online apologetics has done nothing to stop this trend.
Yeah, cause Catholic is a culture more than a religion. I’m my country Brasil. At least 20% of the people self identify as Catholic even though they haven’t walked on a church after the baptism as a 8 days old baby
This is good. As en ex protestant now Catholic, I salute your efforts. Protestantism is often in bad shape, and your focus is clear. Bring back real faith in Christ to the protestants. Most protestants I meet nowadays have a very lukewarm faith except for those more into fundamentalism who have a strong but quite often uninformed faith. May the Holy Spirit guide and direct you in your life's quest. Also I am cheating a bit, as Catholics usually get better when the protestants around them get better...
I like that you called yourself a gateway drug as that is what you were to me and one of the first few channels that led me into learning about theology more.
Definitely, he is really good at that.
Hey man, no bad faith, just good faith!
God bless you brother. We are all united in Christ.
I am Catholic myself, in my hometown there was practically a church on every corner, both Mainline Protestant and Catholic, all businesses were closed on Sundays and the Churches were packed. That is no longer the case, many of the Churches are closed or demolished or have few attending. What was a healthy community is sadly lost in many towns throughout the United States. I do see a return to tradition among my fellow Catholics and Protestant friends. New Subscriber.
I myself have become a lot less hostile towards Catholics and Orthodox. I love them both. Conversion has been in my thoughts.
When I was a Pentecostal anti-Catholic, I didn’t even know what orthodox mean. I studied great schism in school but I don’t think I paid too much attention to that. I have no idea what an anti-orthodox Protestant looks like.
@MichaelMayor-i5x I used to see the Orthodox as too similar to Catholic but without a Pope and so they were met with similar disdain. After researching both and talking to people from both traditions, I know that's not the case and they are not my enemies. Some of the most enthusiastic and knowledgeable Christians I've ever met were Catholic and Orthodox.
@@MichaelMayor-i5x We don't have any historical conflict or quarrel with Orthodoxy. We have some theological differences, but we also have some theological differences with each other. I think Oriental Orthodoxy is better than Eastern Orthodoxy. Even though they don't accept all of the ecumenical councils, they are more similar to us theologically than Eastern Orthodoxy, and certainly closer than Roman Catholicism.
@@Procopius464 it^s funny you said that the Oriental Orthodoxy is better even though they don’t accept EO all the ecumenical councils. But protestants don’t accept it either, cause in the 7th ecumenical council it was established that iconoclasm was false, but all protestants are iconoclasts, not only the evangelical, but even the traditional.
@@MichaelMayor-i5x I don't think you know much about the original Protestant movements. The Lutheran view on the ecumenical councils is that they are correct because they agree with the Bible, but are not infallible because they were written by men. So we don't have a problem with the OO for not accepting all of the councils, because they do accept the Bible which is more important than any of the councils. Also, in my church we have an actual Crucifix in the front. So I don't know how that makes us iconoclast. The older traditional churches will make use of stained glass windows depicting Jesus and the apostles. Some types of Protestants think it's wrong to have images of any sorts in the church, like the Puritans, and to a lesser extent Baptists. The debate over the appropriateness of images is an old one, and it's one that's still going on with some Protestant factions. Personally I prefer an elaborate church. My main concern with EO is that a lot of them teach that you have to be in their church to be saved. This is not a Biblical teaching, and it's also dangerous, because putting your faith in anything other than Jesus leads to destruction.
There are no divisions in Heaven so I hope to see you there and I pray to be there too! God bless!
By the way, my last plug, the Institute of Catholic Culture offers free theology classes taught by professors at various universities. There are quite a few Protestants in the course I am taking now on patristics. That covers the period where we were truly one, for the most part. Maybe you want to join us along with other Protestants. We all just want to learn more about God.
"Judgment must begin at the house of God" - 1 Peter 4:17
According to Protestantism we all should interpret this verse personally, but I just can’t think in what this sentence is supposed to mean. Do you have any idea and can share with me ?
@@MichaelMayor-i5xyou as a Christian will be judged first. Either walk the walk or GOD will place you on a side. Either for GOD or the world. Can't have both. I learned. Your choice will be made of you fence sit
Your videos have helped me rediscover my love for Christ. You give simple clear explanations to complicated topics. I am one of your viewers that went from being a skeptic and a doubter and not going to church, to exploring denominations and different churches, to returning to Catholicism but I truly believe the Holy spirit is working through you to help people rediscover their love for Christ. Cheers
Saw the horrific news on Twitter 😢😢😢
In all seriousness, though, good luck on your new path, man. I used to just have your videos playing in the background because I found them very interesting!
Not a Protestant. I love your channel because you do such a good job explaining Protestantism for me. Glad to hear you're making my primary interest in your channel your main thing.
As a fellow protestant, yet really admiring and considering becoming Catholic, you unironically have shown me the light that was Catholicism and Orthodoxy in a world full of great (and not so great) churches and denoms. But always missing something.
As a former Catholic, thank you for helping me become more Reformed.
@carlosjennings7707. I hope and pray that one day, you can truly discover what Catholicsm really is. God bless !
@@jeremiahong248I was catholic but the pope is a evil globalist.
@carlosjennings7707 Why did you leave the Catholic Church? What kind of Reformed Church did you join?
@@apostolicapologetics4829 Q1: Whether it's indulgences in the 16th century, or the abuse scandals of the 20th/21st, the common thread is a massive bureaucracy that will always try to preserve its own power and avoid accountability. It's always been the power structure of the RCC that has enabled its worst abuses, not faithful Catholic lay-persons.
Q2: Congregationalist, but I could easily go for Presbyterian/Continental Reformed.
@@jeremiahong248 Thank you, that's very kind of you. I'll pray for you as well.
I had heard about you from others but am glad to hear you sharing here. I appreciate your honesty, humility and candor. Thanks for sharing.
I may not agree with you on everything Zoomer but I’ve always loved your content. You’ve always been educational and relatable in your presentation of the gospel.
From one zoomer to another keep it up man, God bless 🙏🏻
Got scared when I saw the title but 100% agree
Fr 😫
Announcing it like this just gives your enemies fuel and makes them think they won and we’re vindicated
We have won and are vindicated.
@@jr8260He was never that good, there is No Victory If Mike Tyson Beats Up a above avarage Guy and the Guy stops fighting, Just Like Zoomer stopping debating, he's a above avarage debater but Not a great one, there is no Victory to be celebrated
Teaching Protestant theology correctly is the best defense/apology
Love you clarifying this. Still not tracking why being contemporary is bad… most traditions were once… contemporary 😂😂😂 if we’re talking about the sacraments and beauty, that exists in some non denominational churches.
I appreciate your humbleness and openness, especially after 2:30 where you make the point of you not being qualified. Recognizing your flaws and where you lack and being honest about that is commendable.
Thanks for being genuine sir. Im a Baptist and though I don't always agree with your takes I greatly appreciate your God-given ministry in making faith more easy for the new generations to understand.
I felt your videos about church history and introducing what each denomination is all about are your best ones.
May God continue to bless your ministry! o7
Edit: I'd like to add the simple explanation of what each book of the Bible is all about among your best videos.
Catholic Brothers, report here to say thanks to Redeemed Zoomer and all of his amazing work:
Does this mean you can make more denominations explained videos 👀
Still hoping for an Anglican one….👀
As a Catholic, I am still thankful because you brought me to Christianity. (Though I became Catholic lol)
God bless you in all your endeavors. All for the greater glory of God!
Anyone who is baptized and Prays the Lord's Prayer is a Brother in Christ.
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Trad-Caths & Orthobros: “my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.”
🤣🤣🤣 bruh
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Stay strong dude. Seek to love God and know Him and be faithful till the end. You don't labor in vain.
The thing about protestantism, as far as I understand it, is that your don't have to follow the Church. If the Church becomes corrupt, it doesn't corrupt the faith. In Catholicism, however, the Church IS the faith. The Pope sets the course. And the current Pope is perhaps the most anti-Catholic Pope in a long while. And that is the main reason I don't agree with Catholicism.
But I like how you put it. "Help Protestants become more Protestant." Yeah, there's a definite need for that.
When two or more are gathered in His name, He is among them. That is even true online and across branches of Christianity. Also, yes, you are probably not as educated or (maybe) as smart as let's say Jimmy Akin or Jordan Cooper, but then again, neither am I. I just watched a discussion between the two of them, and it left me bewildered. Your videos, on the other hand, always teach me something.
RZ has been given a seat at the Christian TH-camr Council, but he has not yet earned the rank of Master.
I am an oriental orthodox, and I respect you greatly. God bless you
Redeemed Zoomer,
Great video. I’m a Catholic who loves your content. The West is in need of faithful Christians who will stand up for the traditional faith. I wish you great success in the reconquista.
It is sad that humans were not able to preserve the Church that Christ started. As a Catholic I lament that we have lost so much from the centuries of division and disunity. Sincerely, it would be better to have Protestant traditions that uphold their historical beliefs than to have the liberalized Unitarian versions to which it seems many have devolved.
From my admittedly biased perspective, it is not surprising. When the authority of the Church was thrown out. Protestants started down a slippery slope of private interpretation and moral relativism. I pray that it can be reversed. God bless you.
If it means anything, thanks to the Holy Ghost who brought me to your channel, I found my new church home in the Lutheran faith thanks to your map and I was once a Catholic.
Not sure if you've already talked or heard about this, but have you considered partnering with a group like 9marks? They're based in Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington DC, and their goal is to have a network of sorts to make churches healthy again. The Pastor of the church wrote a book "9 Marks of a Healthy Church," and that's sort of where they started. It is definitely more Baptist leaning (which I am) but our church prays for Anglican / other denominational faithful churches in our area. It just crossed my mind since they also have a church search feature, of which you'll find Baptist and Presbyterian churches as well. Not sure if you weren't aware of their existence, or aren't interested for whatever reason but maybe there's potential there to partner with them in some way to help save mainline denominations!
Seconding this statement, I actually found my home church through 9marks and to see RZ work with them to make a multi-denominational search and locator that isn't just Baptist would be an amazing thing.
Catholic here. Love your channel!
“We have everything to gain by speaking to each other”
- Metropolitan Kallistos Ware
Think you are going at it with a good approach and I know God will be with you in it. ✝️🙏🏻
We need to forge further cooperation between all denominations
RZ, you’re still my favorite Sicilian, Jewish Protestant.
I have a lot of love and respect for you Zoomer, a lot of your videos helped me on my journey back to God. I am now a Catholic.
How are you with GOD now?
@@CoryW-h3q What I realize now that I couldnt back then was that He was always with me, It was me that was turning my back on HIm (hence the "journey"). He loves us so much, that if we choose to deny Him, He let's us. But just like it was a choice of mine to walk away, by His grace and mercy, I decided to open my heart to Him. I began to seek Him out, to find out His story, His commandments, to get to know Him through prayer and fasting. This is where Zoomer comes in. Zoomer, along with many others in my newfound fervor for the Lord, helped explain things I never understood about Jesus, the Bible, and its History. And so...there's no other way to say it but He reveled Himself to me, through all of it. I have no doubt in the Lord now, I fully Trust in Him, and Love Him. I was His lost sheep, and He loves me so much, He knocked on my heart so loud i could not deny it. I am not worthy, and yet, He loves me, and for that, I will forever be gratefull.
Thank you for this and I am most grateful. I have literally just tried (an hour or so ago on a different site) to expound in a comment exactly what your video states. It was not a bad effort, but as usual those that feel they must ‘protect’ have immediately come out and misconstrued what I was saying. As a protestant I object to protestants calling out brothers and sisters in Christ who may be Catholic. I used the exact teaching of Christ to “take the log out of your own eye etc”. Western protestantism is in a very difficult area where certain false leadership is attempting to enforce non Christian beliefs into that community. However, we cannot escape that if we just say “yes, but look at what the Pope just said”? Make that make sense. However, well said Brother and I agree with you, we have to sort house.
NO please don't stop. You do such a good job breaking down big ideas. You could do it in your whiteboard videos still
unarmed rdz before GTA 6 is crazy
You should make "understanding" videos of protestantism. But i agree that rebuking catholicism or Orthodoxy isn't necessary.
I'm a Lutheran because I believe we have the tradition closest to the original Church founded by Christ...that being said, frankly, anyone who believes in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist is legit to me. I have more in common with a Catholic than I do with an atheist. I will never stand against my brothers and sisters in Christ. We may have theological differences, but those are relatively minor compared to the secularist, borderline evil ideologies that control modern societies
Part of the issue I'm seeing is that there has been more understanding one way than the other. As a protestant in the more evangelical space, it really does feel degrading to my personal experience, my testimony, and how God has impacted me when the older traditional churches do happen to just attack our forms of worship and expressions of faith because its not "trad enough". Criticism and teasing is one thing, but even as a minority the most vocal voices are still the ones being heard.
As a Presbyterian, I sort of enjoy the discourse in Protestantism and some rebellion from churches.
I’m a huge advocate of Sola Scriptura and I fundamentally believe that man is sinful and fallible, and therefore institutions of man, such as Churches, are corruptible.
By questioning the churches, and exploring the faith thru scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we are acting as true Protestants.
Salvation is achieve thru faith alone, no man and no church can ever grant salvation.
The bible says the church is the pillar of truth so that means it can't be corrupt in its essence
@@Chance_Rice the church in the Bible is the Church of Christ, not your local church you attend.