I recently came across a puzzle game that has nihon pro baseball teams that plays like puyo puyo but has baseball aspects to it. They even have drop patterns like Puzzle Fighter. Game came out on super famicom and it made me wonder why something like this did not happen in the states with the mlb.
@@clashmanthethird It's called Pro Yakyuu Nettou Puzzle Stadium for the super Famicom. It's on my cart hunt list to have a physical copy of this fun fest.
@Allyson Mendes Uber hyped. Also heard of a League MMORPG when they announced all those games a few years ago. Heard rumors it was canceled. I really hope that wasn't true.
Don't forget being able to spectate any match going on. It's one thing to see a lobby with a large number of players and reading some chat, but being able to easily see what they're doing, completes the experience. Entering a room that's full of shit talk, then seeing the chat go silent, the spectator number grows on specific match, then seeing the chat explode after the conclusion of that match is priceless.
That's one of the things I was thinking as well, yeah. I love entering fighter lobbies purely to spectate. Since my youth of playing Tekken with family, I loved just putting 2 CPUs to fight and make stupid bets on who can beat who, essentially discovering the fun of Salty Bets before I knew what that even was. Not only do I love Salty for that reason, but games like +R with it's revised quick match lobby and Fightcade with it's big player lobbies give this whole thing a whole new dimension, what with actual players with skill-gaps making it more than simple guess-work. An all-access, on-demand venue for live matches, complete with chat is just the kind of shit I'll throw on while getting drunk on a lazy weekend by myself.
some of my friends are so lazy when it comes to setting up things, they can't be bothered to download the fullset, set up the paths etc, this auto download script is great!
Even me who i am experienced dealing with roms to play online around 17 years ago in the kaillera and GGPO days i still can't be bothered with that today i just backed up my roms but some don't work anymore, the script is a godsent
@@huevonesunltd i'm from the kaillera days too, i don't mind setting this stuff up, it's a lot easier than the retroarch 240p stuff i go through on my rgb modded PC/CRT TV
@@vdfritzz The more problematic thing for me was finding the exact version that would work in the emulator without downloading the full romset(and sometimes these didn't work) because some sites uploaded them as split files or merged with bios with missing files, or the split bios with varying file sizes, hard to tell it was a matter of downloading the same file from different sites and do some trial and error. At some point these roms got harder to get separately , now i just use the script or the archive
@@chronology556 my PC has an older ATI card with a modded driver called CRT Emu Driver, which enables it to output true 15khz RGB through it's VGA port, to RGB mod a CRT TV you have to watch a video on it, it's really cool, basically every old tv is RGB capable but manufacturers only made ports for RCA, sometimes Svideo and component, it's kinda easy but not really to modify these tvs, in the end the picture quality is INSANE, the videos on the topic don't make it justice because of how crt technology works, you have to see it for yourself to grasp how good the picture looks, things that are bright actually SHINE like "true" light, a simple lava level on an old platform game suddenly lights up, the ray of sunlight hitting the stais on the temple of time in zelda ocarina of time look so bright compared to the background, it becomes so immersive (i guess the best HDR panels today are starting to mimic this)
I was 9 years old carrying a milk crate into the arcade to play SF2 an to be able to see over the crowd. I still remember my first three hit combo with Guile.
App literally felt like a dream come true when I found it in 2016, I only wished for two additional games 90% of the community wanted as well. Now not only did they add that shit, they made netcode that shits every past attempt at online for said games as well. Prolly my favorite gaming project to date.
The joining multiple lobby system is one of the greatest and underrated features for online fighting games. It's the closest thing to emulating an arcade experience. Having a user be able to say "I want to play game X, but I'm also willing to play game Y or Z if someone challenges me", makes all the difference. I wish we could do this with steam as well
as someone who came from Smash, I thought all non-Nintendo fighting games had this level of support like Fightcade 2 does. Tried newer titles and I realize how amazing it is that I can play 3rd Strike at the quality it is. Fightcade 2 really is a miracle
Fightcade adding Flycast games recently allowed DOA2 to be played online with rollback, and with that being my favorite fighting game of all time, it makes me happy seeing a community and tournaments rise up around the game. Yes, I know I said DOA2 is my favorite fighting game, don't @ me
Where is this DoA2 with rollback?! My XBox is having some issues with it's power supply, so it's been disassembled and sitting on a chair in my living room for months waiting for a repair! I really miss playing DoA 2 and 3 on it.
Until Capcom gets their act together and gives Darkstalkers a proper chance with a PC release, I’ll enjoy Vampire Savior on Fightcade 2 and the community surrounding it.
I hear that Darkstalkers / Vampire Saviour got a re-release a little while ago. They only adapted part of the series, not all of the games. That weird decision, and the level of marketing behind it, probably explains why that release of the games was a dud.
@@Thalanox Nah Capcom released that "Collection" with the full intent for it to fail so they didn't have to revive the series. Darkstalkers Chronicles had more content and it was a PSP game!
It just surprises me how LONG it takes for you to get matches on official releases of games compared to fightcade. I have to go through multiple loading screens and multiple menues, AND a lobby in strive just to play one match. It's just so dumb. And of course, no chat functionality or anything that boosts community interaction in these games.
@@DARS_04 a Roman cancel is one of the most versatile mechanics. It stops the match for a second, and this pause can be used to stop the opponent’s offense, cancel an animation to do ridiculous combos, make your mixups harder to read and allow you to get out of highly laggy moves to avoid being punished. The best thing about this is that it comes from Guilty Gear, where you can get the meter to use it from everything, even WALKING towards your opponent, easily
Great video! However, one thing that I would like to mention is that the 2017 Fightcade 2 launch being an upgrade was not an understatement, but an overstatement. It was so bad that nobody played on FC2 at all. Despite it's promises, the launch was met with horrible reception. Players that had good netcode in FC1 had unplayable matches in FC2 due to worse netcode (somehow). If anyone would have played on FC2 back then, it'd probably be because Jackie Chan Fists of Fire wasn't on FC1. Somewhere between summer and fall of 2020, not only did FC2 get a MASSIVE improvement on their netcode, but also force people to migrate from FC1. It took them 3 years to actually make Fightcade 2 to work, and now it has become the place we all know and love. It's funny though, since FC1 was barebones, most people played on RedGGPO instead during late 2019/early 2020 and now it's pretty much dead. Other than that, great video!
I had a feeling you'd make this video sooner or later. Most of the modern "innovations" have made it harder to "just play games". Fightcade is the opposite, just games, nothing else.
I wish old 3D games got the same love 2D ones did. Though, Power Stone for Dreamcast got rollback support on emulators recently, so that might mean something in the future. Imagine Virtual-On with rollback, hooooo man.
Fightcade is awesome: -Go in, enter KoF 98' and 02' servers. - _"Who wants to catch these hands?"_ -Catch a significant amount of hands with my face - "ggs, same time tomorrow?"
@Thalanox Fightcade has _vanilla_ 02', not _UM._ Totally different games in terms of balance with like 1/2(?) the roster. Kim/Angel/Athena can stomp you like a Storm/Cable/Magneto any day of the week. As for the community, I can speak for the South Americans and say they are pretty chill. Some claim to have been playing since the 00's, and when they win a ft10 0-10 using random teams without so much as breaking a sweat, you better believe them. Once I typed in the chat mentioning a mixup they did to me and _I had to explain the concept of a crossup to the guy that crossed me up like 20 times._ I've seen Mexican streams on _Facebook, ffs._ All in all, you can tell they are there to mess around and have fun.
At last someone talks about it! By now, i might have been playing FG on Fightcade for only a year, but man was it worth it. Just yesterday was i playing Vampire Saviour with the friend i started my journey throught Fighting Games and i can tell you that might have been impossible without fightcade. Just remembering how neither of us knew much about the game or FGC concepts for that matter back then, and how fun it was just to do random stuff, and to get better little by little on the game (Even thought he rarely put much thought on anything besides tick throws xd). I appreciate fightcade a lot for letting me get in so easily on Fighting games, as they showed me just how much better you can be yourself when you put both mind and body into it and how sometimes i have to first understand the ppl i play against to get a chance on beatin shenlong. Great vid man, it brought back some good memories. PD: Srry if it seems scrambly, im a second language speaker and this felt quite emotional to me.
I wish more modern FG's had a chat. Sure people don't want to hear others being toxic but I'd take the ability to ask what I can improve on, help others and make jokes over not being able to
Them's Fightin' Herds is great for this. It's also got a fantastic lobby system, a sort of roguelike / dungeon crawler mode everyone in the lobby/server can participate in, and you can invite other players into your training mode for specific tips and training. I learned a lot from a guy I met there.
I don't doubt that but sometimes you just see someone pull off something you don't understand how it works and just wanna ask like "yo was that an unblockable setup" or something. Not gonna join a discord for every fighting game I play
@@doomman7349 the point what they meant is to join on discord because there you can ask them "how to get better at the game" like your question about the unblockable setup.
I know what they meant, in which case again, I don't want to join a discord for a game when I just want to figure out something I might not be able to find immediately in a video or wiki page
the chat feature is seriously so good, my positive experiences outweigh the bad ones heavily. fightcade was one of my first fighting game experiences, and i'll never forget the 3s Akuma player who told me how to avoid raging demon. from there, they made sure to do it as much as possible in a match so i could jump it. i didn't ask for anything, yet they took time out of their day to show me something that's incredibly basic to almost any player. i think about that person a lot, and i always try to channel them whenever i see someone new & i try to offer them help. this help would be so much harder to offer without the chat system.
I remember playing JoJo with Polnareff mirrors, and both of us would say "BRAVO!" when landing his super. Once he didn't say it, and the game grinded to a halt, and he put "I forgot to bravo" in the chat. It was hilarious.
coming from mostly smash and non fighting games experience finding out about fightcade a month ago is like discovering the library of alexandria. Emulation is already amazing for experiencing older games but having that emulation AND great online AND community lobbies AND essentially a greatest hits of fighters from the older generations is absolutely fantastic
If you're referring to the game footage at the timestamp it's called Windjammers. Found out about the game through people getting hype for it at an FGC event.
The thing i love the most about FC and older games is how quick you get games going, no loading screens or anything, as soon as the final round ends you are almost at the beginning of the next one. Personally i enjoy 3S, Garou and Akatsuki rn
I've never been one for locals, lobbies, running long sets, using in game chat or getting gud but just being able to play an old ass fighting game online and play a few matches and call it a day with relative ease is a godsend.
Great video! I remember also there was a platform called 2DFighters or so. GGPO, 2DFighters and Fightcade..It's amazing how rollback was a thing and just recently it's becoming a standard (fingers crossed) in modern FGs. Also, I've been subbed to your channel for a longtime and never got the chance to say that your logo is awesome, love Vital Remains !
I would give nearly anything to have a Gunz like experience with modern graphical and gameplay improvements again, like it was in 2006 We got laptops from the highschool and would put Gunz on it, back when schools getting laptops was a new thing
Absolutely love Fightcade, I’ve played so many obscure and amazing fighters on there over the years as well as the well known stuff. I legit probably spend more time on there than I do playing the newer games that I own.
Because of fightcade 2 I learned that 3S is my favorite fighting game of all time. I never had the chance to play it - even in arcades growing up. Not only that - but for whatever reason the community is amazing. Love being able to chat in and out of the games. Honestly the most positive online fighting game experience I've ever had.
Without Fightcade, I wouldnt of known about most of these games. Its the main reason why I started loving FGs. I actually started on Injustice 2, and really got into DBFZ around season three. Heard about Fightcade, and got hooked on 3s and the Marvel games. Great video!
This reminds me that for all I liked the gameplay, my actual favorite part about TFH was its lobby system. Specifically I liked that it not only provided the ability to quickmatch in it or to challenge people you see but that it also tried to emulate the feeling of playing in an arcade with the battle shrines. I grew up as a kid standing in lines and watching matches while peaking my head out from behind others. It's an experience I haven't had in years, but TFH gave me that experience again online and it was wonderful. Just being able to stand there and watch matches against the current champ while people chat off to the side. Things like this and Fightcade 2's various functions just matter a lot, really. Fighting games are a very social genre. I suppose hanging out in community discords works to an extent, but I do think that the games themselves need to be supporting community features more.
13:28 I only got into granblue versus because literally the last tournament I went to before quarantine had a hype granblue grand finals. If quarantine started a bit earlier, I doubt I would've cared about the game
And it's sadly true. The FGC is fragmented in such a fashion these days, which also gives birth to a ton of posers who want clout from the bigger names that have just as much bias towards and against other radical fighters (or anything not their main fighter in general). They also fail to apply the knowledge from their own fighting games to all other fighting games in general (e.g. dodge-timing in Demon Slayer Hinokami they will complain about compared to perfect-parrying everything in 3rd Strike which is essentially the same thing; both full-offense-nullfying scenarios should have advanced-yet-obvious workarounds).
I legit got taught the boxer throw loop from a boxer player I ran into playing st, sure it can be full of salt some times but chat does actually get used for good sometimes.
the term FGC to encompass every single fighting game player is magical to me. you really cant say the same to any other genre of video games. like its always the league community or the dota community not the moba community as a whole.
Fightcade is awesome. Partially due to space, and also because I have trouble with the download, I generally don't use FC much. But when I do, it's really good. Someday I'll get around to redownloading it for good, and when I do I'll finally get good at SF3 and Garou. Side note, I think the reason Alpha 2 didn't have a training mode in 30th was because Alpha 3 kinda covers some of 2's aspects. That being said, 30th is best for Arcade mode, not online, and unless we get a good modern port for older games (or an updated version of good quality), FC is probably the best place.
There can be someone playing TMNT Tournament Fighter at any point of the day? The BAD TMNT Tournament Fighter that I bought as a kid thinking it was the same as the SNES one? Because I might have to give this "Fightcade" stuff a spin.
Excellent vid. Early on I (mistakenly) thought you were going to dive into what is and isn't allowed on the platform. Fighting games rule, but so do platform fighters and arena fighters. I'm trying to revive an old dead game (DESTREGA) but it's too niche for an already incredibly niche community, and without an easy place to emulate it feels like the game won't ever reach that hands of people that would enjoy it. I'm incredibly happy that fans have gone so far beyond what companies aren't willing to do, but it feels like you aren't allowed in the club unless you want what other people already want.
I remember the days of using GGPO FBA to play Gator:MOTW or VSAV and Alpha3 back in 2010. So crazy to see rollback on even Dreamcast now. Like we can actually play online confidently through official games now. That would’ve been crazy to think a dev cared about online back then. Guess we have the audience to warrant it now?
Fight case is such a good program, but unfortunately I’m Australian so there’s only a couple people ever around. Although I did play one match of street fighter: the movie the game and it was amazing
Thank you for putting this video together. I had tried fightcade several months ago but the complexity made me leave it. Now with these updates I'm really enjoying it. The dilemma is the piracy of roms though.
Stuff like this is why copyright law should be rolled back (pun somewhat intended) Imagine what amazing advancements in gaming technology we would have if legacy games went public domain after a decade of abandonment by the publisher.
This just blew up recently I think, I'm seeing a ton of new stuff about it on TH-cam can't wait to see some of these classic games get new life, I'm looking forward to samsho
Fightcade is really the only reason anyone plays Jojo's outside of Japan. From what I know, in America the cabinets for Jojo's back in the day were few and far between. I don't think it's a stretch to say that with Jojo as a franchise becoming more popular along with fightcade, that it's far more popular in 2021 than it was when it released 20+ years ago
installed fightcade cuz I wanted to try jojo's and street fighter online, then I realized it's got an everything-emulator built in and now I have a bunch of roms of all kinds of arcade games to play casually with friends or by myself
How does this handle players cheating with autofire? Back in the day I used to play CPS2 games in Kaillera and autofire was rampant until the developer put an autofire detector and would announce cheaters detected to the whole lobby. Then everyone knew to avoid that player.
Fightcade keeps so many great games avaliable for rollback online that its surreal, practically everything avaliable in Flycast isn't playable online (or at all, without emulation) and years before the 30th anniversary collection of SF came out, I was already playing years ago SFA3 so many times. Truly an absolute miracle for anybody that loves fighting games (and even useful for playing certain coop games online like Metal Slug). Also playing SF2 Rainbow Edition online with someone else is...definitely a crazy trip, and something that would never have happened if GGPO/Fightcade did not exist lol
I’ve been using fightcade and ggpo for years. I’ve been telling people since then to try it. It has changed my life since I first got it to run. Thank you for telling more people about it
Shout out to TheoryFighter for using the gameplay of me vs the known scrub dilpickle during a mvc tourny where I bodied him twice with incredible ease @ 8:04 much respect
I tried to set up Final Burn Neo in RetroArch but I gave up, but after watching what it's possible on Fightcade, I'll give it another try P.S: Oh yeah also MARVEL VS CAPCOM 2 on PC and online, yeah, I must setup Fightcade 2 asap
This is the coolest thing to happen. How does this free program do so much right compared to so many other companies that create online multi-player and get paid so much money to do it. Can't they learn something from fightcade?
The app definitely made me discover tons of classic gem and allowed me to stick around playing fg instead of just playing them occasionally. I'll say though, while the community is cool on the feature side of things like Lua scripting, the community itself...eeeeeeeh. It's probably an unfortunate consequence of having such a good app but it's rare the chat rooms aren't filled with assholes and it makes it really hard to...wanna learn to play the games.
My only problem with Fightcade is that the updater is absolute shit. Other than that this thing is the best thing I have in my computer after my profile picture.
its kinda weird that my first major experience with fighting games was the transition from fightcade 1 to fightcade 2, I got lost in the new UI and went on to play other games cause I wasnt too invested (I was in only for the jojos)
Man I miss my ps2 and the copy of cvs2 and mvc2 😢 11:17 I loved CVS2 soo much. After school up to my room to play it. And not knowing how many people around the world loved this game too. Would’ve been sick to have been able to have it online
I'd been trying to get this thing to work for a while but the autorom jsons saved it. Thanks for showing me those! I /finally/ got to play some CVS after all these years. Not hopping in matches yet to, not a masochist.
Hearing all these different fighting games get rollback just saddens me more that "BlazBlue Central Fiction" still hasn't gotten it yet. Especially when you realize that the community for that game is STILL very much active, and posts content for the game constantly, whether that be on discord, or twitter with them leaving hashtag "#BBCFROLLBACK" at the end of each post. Seriously, the fact that this game is arguably the most complicated and especially UNIQUE fighting game on the 2D market, with the series at one point DOMINATING the Japanese arcade scene, with pro players from various other fighting game series playing the game at once ( examples of some Japanese guilty gear players being Kaqn and Buppa, and even guilty gear content creators like Majin Obama said that "BlazBlue Central Fiction is WAY harder than Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2" with pro Zato player in XRD who is Beatifuldude agreeing with him, and then you add that to the fact that one of the best Sin Players in XRD who is Kizzie Kay saying that BBCF is his favorite game) yet despite all the game's praise it's gotten over the years it STILL doesn't have rollback yet is baffling to me
If the wifi players think wifi is an acceptable connection, let them play with each other. They shouldn't get to ruin the experience for those who have put the effort into having a proper connection.
Fightcade 2 is def the best thing that happen to me for the last 2 years
LETS GO JUSTIN!!!!
Hey
Says a lot of the state of the FGC. Might actually blossom into something more now that we have rollback.
WATCHING JUSTIN PLAY FIGHTCADE 2 IS DEF ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO HAPPEN TO ME OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS 😂
=)
100% agree
It's amazing how it went from just the popular fighting games, to now expanding to beat em ups, dreamcast games, puzzle games. It's really amazing.
I recently came across a puzzle game that has nihon pro baseball teams that plays like puyo puyo but has baseball aspects to it. They even have drop patterns like Puzzle Fighter. Game came out on super famicom and it made me wonder why something like this did not happen in the states with the mlb.
Even golf games.
Competitive Neo Turf Masters is quite a sight to behold.
It's like a real arcade!!!!!
@@striderhanzo bro what's the name of that game this sounds sick
@@clashmanthethird It's called Pro Yakyuu Nettou Puzzle Stadium for the super Famicom. It's on my cart hunt list to have a physical copy of this fun fest.
"It saved me from a life of playing Dota"
I wish a game had saved me from getting into League lol I feel this
No way i love fighting games and mobas
I pray for you trying to balance both genres, itll end you
Real life, baby!!
@Allyson Mendes Uber hyped. Also heard of a League MMORPG when they announced all those games a few years ago. Heard rumors it was canceled. I really hope that wasn't true.
@@LargeInCharge77 Godspeed, Memorizer
"The Iraq War got rollback before Smash Ultimate" is a sentence I never thought I'd hear, but god damn
i completely forgot i posted that initially jesus fuck
It did tho
im pretty cracked at that one tbh
Don't forget being able to spectate any match going on. It's one thing to see a lobby with a large number of players and reading some chat, but being able to easily see what they're doing, completes the experience. Entering a room that's full of shit talk, then seeing the chat go silent, the spectator number grows on specific match, then seeing the chat explode after the conclusion of that match is priceless.
That's one of the things I was thinking as well, yeah. I love entering fighter lobbies purely to spectate. Since my youth of playing Tekken with family, I loved just putting 2 CPUs to fight and make stupid bets on who can beat who, essentially discovering the fun of Salty Bets before I knew what that even was. Not only do I love Salty for that reason, but games like +R with it's revised quick match lobby and Fightcade with it's big player lobbies give this whole thing a whole new dimension, what with actual players with skill-gaps making it more than simple guess-work. An all-access, on-demand venue for live matches, complete with chat is just the kind of shit I'll throw on while getting drunk on a lazy weekend by myself.
It truly is an online arcade
some of my friends are so lazy when it comes to setting up things, they can't be bothered to download the fullset, set up the paths etc, this auto download script is great!
Even me who i am experienced dealing with roms to play online around 17 years ago in the kaillera and GGPO days i still can't be bothered with that today i just backed up my roms but some don't work anymore, the script is a godsent
@@huevonesunltd i'm from the kaillera days too, i don't mind setting this stuff up, it's a lot easier than the retroarch 240p stuff i go through on my rgb modded PC/CRT TV
@@vdfritzz The more problematic thing for me was finding the exact version that would work in the emulator without downloading the full romset(and sometimes these didn't work) because some sites uploaded them as split files or merged with bios with missing files, or the split bios with varying file sizes, hard to tell it was a matter of downloading the same file from different sites and do some trial and error.
At some point these roms got harder to get separately , now i just use the script or the archive
@@vdfritzz Say what? Can you elaborate what you did to do that? RGB Modded PC/CRT TV?
@@chronology556 my PC has an older ATI card with a modded driver called CRT Emu Driver, which enables it to output true 15khz RGB through it's VGA port, to RGB mod a CRT TV you have to watch a video on it, it's really cool, basically every old tv is RGB capable but manufacturers only made ports for RCA, sometimes Svideo and component, it's kinda easy but not really to modify these tvs, in the end the picture quality is INSANE, the videos on the topic don't make it justice because of how crt technology works, you have to see it for yourself to grasp how good the picture looks, things that are bright actually SHINE like "true" light, a simple lava level on an old platform game suddenly lights up, the ray of sunlight hitting the stais on the temple of time in zelda ocarina of time look so bright compared to the background, it becomes so immersive (i guess the best HDR panels today are starting to mimic this)
I was 9 years old carrying a milk crate into the arcade to play SF2 an to be able to see over the crowd. I still remember my first three hit combo with Guile.
@Super Mario close, j. Hp, cr.lp, Sonic boom
App literally felt like a dream come true when I found it in 2016, I only wished for two additional games 90% of the community wanted as well. Now not only did they add that shit, they made netcode that shits every past attempt at online for said games as well. Prolly my favorite gaming project to date.
The joining multiple lobby system is one of the greatest and underrated features for online fighting games. It's the closest thing to emulating an arcade experience. Having a user be able to say "I want to play game X, but I'm also willing to play game Y or Z if someone challenges me", makes all the difference. I wish we could do this with steam as well
as someone who came from Smash, I thought all non-Nintendo fighting games had this level of support like Fightcade 2 does. Tried newer titles and I realize how amazing it is that I can play 3rd Strike at the quality it is. Fightcade 2 really is a miracle
Fightcade is a godsend to people who wanna play old classic fighting games online whenever they want.
@@yourbenevolentsaviorgill5547 accent core+R in 2022 feels amazing
Fightcade adding Flycast games recently allowed DOA2 to be played online with rollback, and with that being my favorite fighting game of all time, it makes me happy seeing a community and tournaments rise up around the game.
Yes, I know I said DOA2 is my favorite fighting game, don't @ me
Heh tiddies
DoA is great
Where is this DoA2 with rollback?! My XBox is having some issues with it's power supply, so it's been disassembled and sitting on a chair in my living room for months waiting for a repair! I really miss playing DoA 2 and 3 on it.
@@Thalanox As I said, it's on Fightcade, specifically it's the Japanese special edition for Dreamcast
Until Capcom gets their act together and gives Darkstalkers a proper chance with a PC release, I’ll enjoy Vampire Savior on Fightcade 2 and the community surrounding it.
yo nice sack, how's mine?
I hear that Darkstalkers / Vampire Saviour got a re-release a little while ago. They only adapted part of the series, not all of the games. That weird decision, and the level of marketing behind it, probably explains why that release of the games was a dud.
@@Thalanox Nah Capcom released that "Collection" with the full intent for it to fail so they didn't have to revive the series. Darkstalkers Chronicles had more content and it was a PSP game!
@@0utrunner237
They did release it a second time as part of a more general collection alongside stuff like Red Earth.
It just surprises me how LONG it takes for you to get matches on official releases of games compared to fightcade. I have to go through multiple loading screens and multiple menues, AND a lobby in strive just to play one match. It's just so dumb.
And of course, no chat functionality or anything that boosts community interaction in these games.
At least official releases let you use either the d pad or analog stick without having to manually rebind.
one of the coolest custom roms on fightcade is Jojo's but with roman cancels, it's actually crazy
Where!? That sounds cool, and I dont even knw what a Roman Cancel is!
Wait what? Lol. There's a modded Jojo's with RC's??
What’s it called?
WHAT
@@DARS_04 a Roman cancel is one of the most versatile mechanics. It stops the match for a second, and this pause can be used to stop the opponent’s offense, cancel an animation to do ridiculous combos, make your mixups harder to read and allow you to get out of highly laggy moves to avoid being punished. The best thing about this is that it comes from Guilty Gear, where you can get the meter to use it from everything, even WALKING towards your opponent, easily
Great video!
However, one thing that I would like to mention is that the 2017 Fightcade 2 launch being an upgrade was not an understatement, but an overstatement. It was so bad that nobody played on FC2 at all.
Despite it's promises, the launch was met with horrible reception. Players that had good netcode in FC1 had unplayable matches in FC2 due to worse netcode (somehow). If anyone would have played on FC2 back then, it'd probably be because Jackie Chan Fists of Fire wasn't on FC1.
Somewhere between summer and fall of 2020, not only did FC2 get a MASSIVE improvement on their netcode, but also force people to migrate from FC1. It took them 3 years to actually make Fightcade 2 to work, and now it has become the place we all know and love. It's funny though, since FC1 was barebones, most people played on RedGGPO instead during late 2019/early 2020 and now it's pretty much dead.
Other than that, great video!
I recall having fun on fightcade back in the day, but when I I tried fightcade2 it felt a step back and things didn't seem to work.
Yeah FC2 was really bad back then.
For the longest time FC2 was mostly just Koreans playing KoF lmao.
I had a feeling you'd make this video sooner or later. Most of the modern "innovations" have made it harder to "just play games". Fightcade is the opposite, just games, nothing else.
The only thing that bothers me is the 3 game limit if you're not in patreon
@@jamessicard1705 well everything runs on money. They could have limited it to 1 game and it will still be a success
I literally just got fightcade 2 working yesterday and I’ve been ADDICTED
I wish old 3D games got the same love 2D ones did. Though, Power Stone for Dreamcast got rollback support on emulators recently, so that might mean something in the future. Imagine Virtual-On with rollback, hooooo man.
Hoooo mama
The most respected 3d game I can think of is Soul Calibur 2. Maybe Tekken 3 or 4. I never played the Tekken games before.
@@Thalanox Tekken 1-3 for sure, followed by its predecessor Virtua Fighter.
Fightcade is awesome:
-Go in, enter KoF 98' and 02' servers.
- _"Who wants to catch these hands?"_
-Catch a significant amount of hands with my face
- "ggs, same time tomorrow?"
How does the KoF 02 UM crowd compare to the KoF 02 UM crowd on the modern version of the game? It got a rollback update a year or so ago.
@Thalanox Fightcade has _vanilla_ 02', not _UM._ Totally different games in terms of balance with like 1/2(?) the roster. Kim/Angel/Athena can stomp you like a Storm/Cable/Magneto any day of the week.
As for the community, I can speak for the South Americans and say they are pretty chill. Some claim to have been playing since the 00's, and when they win a ft10 0-10 using random teams without so much as breaking a sweat, you better believe them. Once I typed in the chat mentioning a mixup they did to me and _I had to explain the concept of a crossup to the guy that crossed me up like 20 times._
I've seen Mexican streams on _Facebook, ffs._
All in all, you can tell they are there to mess around and have fun.
Never f with mexicans and brazilians. you should've known better.
At last someone talks about it!
By now, i might have been playing FG on Fightcade for only a year, but man was it worth it.
Just yesterday was i playing Vampire Saviour with the friend i started my journey throught Fighting Games and i can tell you that might have been impossible without fightcade. Just remembering how neither of us knew much about the game or FGC concepts for that matter back then, and how fun it was just to do random stuff, and to get better little by little on the game (Even thought he rarely put much thought on anything besides tick throws xd).
I appreciate fightcade a lot for letting me get in so easily on Fighting games, as they showed me just how much better you can be yourself when you put both mind and body into it and how sometimes i have to first understand the ppl i play against to get a chance on beatin shenlong.
Great vid man, it brought back some good memories.
PD: Srry if it seems scrambly, im a second language speaker and this felt quite emotional to me.
I wish more modern FG's had a chat. Sure people don't want to hear others being toxic but I'd take the ability to ask what I can improve on, help others and make jokes over not being able to
Able and Disable Chat is the only option
Them's Fightin' Herds is great for this. It's also got a fantastic lobby system, a sort of roguelike / dungeon crawler mode everyone in the lobby/server can participate in, and you can invite other players into your training mode for specific tips and training. I learned a lot from a guy I met there.
I don't doubt that but sometimes you just see someone pull off something you don't understand how it works and just wanna ask like "yo was that an unblockable setup" or something. Not gonna join a discord for every fighting game I play
@@doomman7349 the point what they meant is to join on discord because there you can ask them "how to get better at the game" like your question about the unblockable setup.
I know what they meant, in which case again, I don't want to join a discord for a game when I just want to figure out something I might not be able to find immediately in a video or wiki page
the chat feature is seriously so good, my positive experiences outweigh the bad ones heavily. fightcade was one of my first fighting game experiences, and i'll never forget the 3s Akuma player who told me how to avoid raging demon. from there, they made sure to do it as much as possible in a match so i could jump it. i didn't ask for anything, yet they took time out of their day to show me something that's incredibly basic to almost any player.
i think about that person a lot, and i always try to channel them whenever i see someone new & i try to offer them help. this help would be so much harder to offer without the chat system.
I remember playing JoJo with Polnareff mirrors, and both of us would say "BRAVO!" when landing his super. Once he didn't say it, and the game grinded to a halt, and he put "I forgot to bravo" in the chat. It was hilarious.
Lucky
coming from mostly smash and non fighting games experience finding out about fightcade a month ago is like discovering the library of alexandria. Emulation is already amazing for experiencing older games but having that emulation AND great online AND community lobbies AND essentially a greatest hits of fighters from the older generations is absolutely fantastic
13:41 Perfect comparison right here. Encapsulates what's great about the local FGC and how that can be seen in Fightcade.
WHAT GAME IS THAT
If you're referring to the game footage at the timestamp it's called Windjammers. Found out about the game through people getting hype for it at an FGC event.
The thing i love the most about FC and older games is how quick you get games going, no loading screens or anything, as soon as the final round ends you are almost at the beginning of the next one.
Personally i enjoy 3S, Garou and Akatsuki rn
I've never been one for locals, lobbies, running long sets, using in game chat or getting gud but just being able to play an old ass fighting game online and play a few matches and call it a day with relative ease is a godsend.
Great video! I remember also there was a platform called 2DFighters or so. GGPO, 2DFighters and Fightcade..It's amazing how rollback was a thing and just recently it's becoming a standard (fingers crossed) in modern FGs.
Also, I've been subbed to your channel for a longtime and never got the chance to say that your logo is awesome, love Vital Remains !
I've been calling it the fighting game collective for ages now.
"We don't even have to wait for Digital Eclipse to re-release the game
and mess it up"
I pray to god they somehow get it right this time
I'll write a comment, read it 15 times, post it, only to come back later and find out there's a massive typo I didn't see
I would give nearly anything to have a Gunz like experience with modern graphical and gameplay improvements again, like it was in 2006
We got laptops from the highschool and would put Gunz on it, back when schools getting laptops was a new thing
Absolutely love Fightcade, I’ve played so many obscure and amazing fighters on there over the years as well as the well known stuff. I legit probably spend more time on there than I do playing the newer games that I own.
Because of fightcade 2 I learned that 3S is my favorite fighting game of all time. I never had the chance to play it - even in arcades growing up. Not only that - but for whatever reason the community is amazing. Love being able to chat in and out of the games. Honestly the most positive online fighting game experience I've ever had.
Without Fightcade, I wouldnt of known about most of these games. Its the main reason why I started loving FGs. I actually started on Injustice 2, and really got into DBFZ around season three. Heard about Fightcade, and got hooked on 3s and the Marvel games. Great video!
This reminds me that for all I liked the gameplay, my actual favorite part about TFH was its lobby system. Specifically I liked that it not only provided the ability to quickmatch in it or to challenge people you see but that it also tried to emulate the feeling of playing in an arcade with the battle shrines. I grew up as a kid standing in lines and watching matches while peaking my head out from behind others. It's an experience I haven't had in years, but TFH gave me that experience again online and it was wonderful. Just being able to stand there and watch matches against the current champ while people chat off to the side.
Things like this and Fightcade 2's various functions just matter a lot, really. Fighting games are a very social genre. I suppose hanging out in community discords works to an extent, but I do think that the games themselves need to be supporting community features more.
Fightcade is a dream come true all the classics at your fingertips for you to play until your eyes bleed 👀🩸😎🤙🏾
11:05
Wait a minute, I CAN PLAY RIVAL SCHOOLS AGAIN?
For people who can't spend a good 60 bucks on a fg, I love fightcade with all my heart
13:28 I only got into granblue versus because literally the last tournament I went to before quarantine had a hype granblue grand finals. If quarantine started a bit earlier, I doubt I would've cared about the game
Name dropping jojos in a video that'll get over 1K views is a blessing I always take for granted
As someone who hates the lack of instantaneous play in online that feature to do matchmaking in multiple games at once sounds godly.
This needs to spread more. I just found out about this on accident by typing Street Fighter 3 online. Amazing.
And it's sadly true. The FGC is fragmented in such a fashion these days, which also gives birth to a ton of posers who want clout from the bigger names that have just as much bias towards and against other radical fighters (or anything not their main fighter in general).
They also fail to apply the knowledge from their own fighting games to all other fighting games in general (e.g. dodge-timing in Demon Slayer Hinokami they will complain about compared to perfect-parrying everything in 3rd Strike which is essentially the same thing; both full-offense-nullfying scenarios should have advanced-yet-obvious workarounds).
Love playing Marvel Vs Capcom 2 and 3rd Strike on Fightcade
I legit got taught the boxer throw loop from a boxer player I ran into playing st, sure it can be full of salt some times but chat does actually get used for good sometimes.
As a smash player, not much has changed has it
lol
"faceless Ken"
Ken mentioned!!!
the term FGC to encompass every single fighting game player is magical to me. you really cant say the same to any other genre of video games. like its always the league community or the dota community not the moba community as a whole.
Fightcade is awesome. Partially due to space, and also because I have trouble with the download, I generally don't use FC much. But when I do, it's really good. Someday I'll get around to redownloading it for good, and when I do I'll finally get good at SF3 and Garou.
Side note, I think the reason Alpha 2 didn't have a training mode in 30th was because Alpha 3 kinda covers some of 2's aspects. That being said, 30th is best for Arcade mode, not online, and unless we get a good modern port for older games (or an updated version of good quality), FC is probably the best place.
Max's reaction after realizing that is practically etched in my mind.
"fUcKiN tRaInInG mOdE"
There can be someone playing TMNT Tournament Fighter at any point of the day?
The BAD TMNT Tournament Fighter that I bought as a kid thinking it was the same as the SNES one?
Because I might have to give this "Fightcade" stuff a spin.
Unlikely haha
Spain's better coders just doing this for fun... They deserve a monument xD :-)
Now I wish I had a PC
Excellent vid. Early on I (mistakenly) thought you were going to dive into what is and isn't allowed on the platform. Fighting games rule, but so do platform fighters and arena fighters. I'm trying to revive an old dead game (DESTREGA) but it's too niche for an already incredibly niche community, and without an easy place to emulate it feels like the game won't ever reach that hands of people that would enjoy it.
I'm incredibly happy that fans have gone so far beyond what companies aren't willing to do, but it feels like you aren't allowed in the club unless you want what other people already want.
OH BOY. YOU HAVE NO IDEA...
Community will always be better than company
I remember the days of using GGPO FBA to play Gator:MOTW or VSAV and Alpha3 back in 2010. So crazy to see rollback on even Dreamcast now. Like we can actually play online confidently through official games now. That would’ve been crazy to think a dev cared about online back then. Guess we have the audience to warrant it now?
Florida man spotted
@@r1l426 I don’t understand. I’m not in FL scene
@@otterdonnelly9959 Gator motw
You mean GAROU, not gator
@@r1l426 lol missed inputs frfr
Fight case is such a good program, but unfortunately I’m Australian so there’s only a couple people ever around. Although I did play one match of street fighter: the movie the game and it was amazing
everybody loves some good kusoge
Thank you for putting this video together. I had tried fightcade several months ago but the complexity made me leave it. Now with these updates I'm really enjoying it. The dilemma is the piracy of roms though.
Buy an official release/rerelease of a game you value, when it's available.
This probably the greatest and impressive feats of a community
Stuff like this is why copyright law should be rolled back (pun somewhat intended)
Imagine what amazing advancements in gaming technology we would have if legacy games went public domain after a decade of abandonment by the publisher.
Copyright laws will be updated will someone starts fighting for it. And we know politicians don't have souls so
Your gaming taste = instant subscribe
This just blew up recently I think, I'm seeing a ton of new stuff about it on TH-cam can't wait to see some of these classic games get new life, I'm looking forward to samsho
Fightcade is a godsend. Only thing this needs is some kind of private lobby system or player rotation
Fightcade is really the only reason anyone plays Jojo's outside of Japan. From what I know, in America the cabinets for Jojo's back in the day were few and far between. I don't think it's a stretch to say that with Jojo as a franchise becoming more popular along with fightcade, that it's far more popular in 2021 than it was when it released 20+ years ago
installed fightcade cuz I wanted to try jojo's and street fighter online, then I realized it's got an everything-emulator built in and now I have a bunch of roms of all kinds of arcade games to play casually with friends or by myself
3:05 Skullgirls saved me from getting addicted to Dota
Praying that flycast input delay gets adjusted soon, cause I'd love to grind MVC2
There's no scenario where I'd ever want to hear what a Ken player has to say lol
Why?
I wish all fighting games have a trial mode and tutorial mode to teach newer players how to play it
How does this handle players cheating with autofire? Back in the day I used to play CPS2 games in Kaillera and autofire was rampant until the developer put an autofire detector and would announce cheaters detected to the whole lobby. Then everyone knew to avoid that player.
They don't allow to auto fire, also kalliera is dead unless you play 64
Fightcade keeps so many great games avaliable for rollback online that its surreal, practically everything avaliable in Flycast isn't playable online (or at all, without emulation) and years before the 30th anniversary collection of SF came out, I was already playing years ago SFA3 so many times. Truly an absolute miracle for anybody that loves fighting games (and even useful for playing certain coop games online like Metal Slug). Also playing SF2 Rainbow Edition online with someone else is...definitely a crazy trip, and something that would never have happened if GGPO/Fightcade did not exist lol
I’ve been using fightcade and ggpo for years. I’ve been telling people since then to try it. It has changed my life since I first got it to run. Thank you for telling more people about it
Fightcade 2 saved my mom from depression
Shout out to TheoryFighter for using the gameplay of me vs the known scrub dilpickle during a mvc tourny where I bodied him twice with incredible ease @ 8:04 much respect
"laughs in most of my matches crashing in a black screen".
I tried to set up Final Burn Neo in RetroArch but I gave up, but after watching what it's possible on Fightcade, I'll give it another try
P.S: Oh yeah also MARVEL VS CAPCOM 2 on PC and online, yeah, I must setup Fightcade 2 asap
Now fightcade has integrated Training mode! Pog!
I miss playing fighting games in person
Damn, I'd wish Tatsunoko vs Capcom had rollback too u.u
10:23 - you mean "4rd Strike" 😂
This will be great on the Steam Deck.
Fuck that bro, no one wants to play people on wifi
This is the coolest thing to happen. How does this free program do so much right compared to so many other companies that create online multi-player and get paid so much money to do it. Can't they learn something from fightcade?
That would require effort and paying attention to their community, time that could be spent on which yacht they wanna buy
I miss the 3rd Strike room on GGPO so much. Good old days.
SHOUTS OUT TO FIGHTCADE 2
Since the recent rollback update i have had so much fun playing Akatsuki and CVS2
The app definitely made me discover tons of classic gem and allowed me to stick around playing fg instead of just playing them occasionally. I'll say though, while the community is cool on the feature side of things like Lua scripting, the community itself...eeeeeeeh. It's probably an unfortunate consequence of having such a good app but it's rare the chat rooms aren't filled with assholes and it makes it really hard to...wanna learn to play the games.
It has Breaker's Revenge. It wins by default.
My only problem with Fightcade is that the updater is absolute shit. Other than that this thing is the best thing I have in my computer after my profile picture.
its kinda weird that my first major experience with fighting games was the transition from fightcade 1 to fightcade 2, I got lost in the new UI and went on to play other games cause I wasnt too invested
(I was in only for the jojos)
Man I miss my ps2 and the copy of cvs2 and mvc2 😢 11:17 I loved CVS2 soo much. After school up to my room to play it. And not knowing how many people around the world loved this game too. Would’ve been sick to have been able to have it online
2:45 is the most relatable thing of all time
I cannot stop to watch this video. It's amazing!
Been playing since Fightcade 1, but 2 is the truth.
I'd been trying to get this thing to work for a while but the autorom jsons saved it. Thanks for showing me those!
I /finally/ got to play some CVS after all these years.
Not hopping in matches yet to, not a masochist.
Hearing all these different fighting games get rollback just saddens me more that "BlazBlue Central Fiction" still hasn't gotten it yet. Especially when you realize that the community for that game is STILL very much active, and posts content for the game constantly, whether that be on discord, or twitter with them leaving hashtag "#BBCFROLLBACK" at the end of each post. Seriously, the fact that this game is arguably the most complicated and especially UNIQUE fighting game on the 2D market, with the series at one point DOMINATING the Japanese arcade scene, with pro players from various other fighting game series playing the game at once ( examples of some Japanese guilty gear players being Kaqn and Buppa, and even guilty gear content creators like Majin Obama said that "BlazBlue Central Fiction is WAY harder than Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2" with pro Zato player in XRD who is Beatifuldude agreeing with him, and then you add that to the fact that one of the best Sin Players in XRD who is Kizzie Kay saying that BBCF is his favorite game) yet despite all the game's praise it's gotten over the years it STILL doesn't have rollback yet is baffling to me
it will most likely get it soon, steam files are being updated with somethin
Well
Someone hit me up with the rompack preferably without a torrent 🤫
GUNZ?!?! Now that's a real blast from the past!! One of my baby's first MMO games!
Without Fightcade, I would have never played Jojo HFTF and really got into the FGC.
Okay fine, I'll try fight cade already. Geez
Developers don't gate wifi players because it would be equivalent to not letting a portion of the install base even try to play the game
Maybe they should learn to run cable, it's not even hard.
If the wifi players think wifi is an acceptable connection, let them play with each other. They shouldn't get to ruin the experience for those who have put the effort into having a proper connection.
Hell yea it bring everyone that wants to play together without hassle of asking on discord. I hope more people learn about it
Great video yet again my dude