I grew up on the SC-3000, still have it to this day with the SF-7000, tape deck, modem, printer and a veriety of controllers for it. Absolutely love this system along with the games and that version of Wonderboy is the best ! 🙂
I did this conversion a little while ago BUT you can do it very neatly using the same type of connector (DIN-8) simply by replacing the existing DIN-5. On my SC3000 adding the DIN-8 was simple as the motherboard even had the extra pin holes with traces that led to solder points where I could add the RGB signals from the TMSRGB. The beauty is then after the mod you can still use the existing DIN-5 composite cable (as it’s backwards compatible with the DIN-8 pin out) and the new pinout is compatible with SMS and MD1 RGB connector.
@10:22 is encouraging to me. I'm apparently not the only person who sometimes gets the shakes working on these things. I get so worked up over worry about screwing up a fix that I sometimes wonder if it's just hypertension or Parkinsons'. Thank you Mr. Lurch for sharing.
My first computer! Think I was 15. Better graphics than the more popular C64 games. In fact, the BASIC language I learnt on the 3000 was more fully utilised than the 64's version - the computers my school used to teach it on. (Simple commands were fine, but doing more complex things like drawing graphics... So instead of using BASIC's "line" command to draw lines, on the C64 you would have to use a proprietary peak or poke command with a correct memory address.) Years later, when I moved to BASIC programming on IBM PCs in Year 10, I already knew all the commands from my Sega SC-3000's BASIC!! The other students struggled as they hadn't learnt the full command set.
Nice video, I just got a SC-3000 last week as well as a mk1 sg. The mk2 sg actually has rgb and sync test points you can pull from and run through a triple bypass while the othello multivision and I believe mk1 sg use a 9918 chip. Just subbed!
A family friend had the SC-3000H when I was a kid. I enjoyed playing with it when I went to their place, mainly because it was different to the Commodores I used at school and home. That's a schmick looking RGB mod, and congrats on extracting this SC-3000 from Mark, it must've been a tough job. 😆
Clean install! I love the idea of using a mini-DIN where the modulator was and bonus points for wiring up a disconnect. Have you seen the new & inexpensive F18a alternative that's been developed recently? It replaces the VDP entirely and give you HDMI output.
14:15: Somehow it's unreasonably funny to me how this machine says "Export Version With Diereses" right there in pride of place on the home screen. [There's a Diaeresis (diacritic) Wikipedia article, in case anyone's wondering.]
I would recommend you go with a screw mounted connector as you wouldn't need the printed part and wouldn't have issues "pulling out". Searches for "panel mount s video connector female" or "screw mount s video connector female" show a few options. I know your options are more limited where you live.
Great vid as always! Love the SC-3000, have spent a LOT of time with them now. If you ever want to revisit, might I recommend using a 9-pin mini DIN and pinout compatible with Sega Mega Drive 2 AV cables. You can also pick up composite signal right on the TMS-RGB for the cable
10:40: D'oh! I would have like to have seen the "header socket" connector that mates to the pin connector up close. Possibly even see you plug and unplug it. Never mind, carrying on...
Nice, I believe the early models of the SG-1000 Mk II can be modded using the same method as they should have the same chip. (later models have a Sega chip that outputs RGB and can be modded more easily)
I love my 3000H because it's so, so bad. I adore that it looks like such a cool computer, but it's just such a terrible machine. I don't think I'd ever do this mod because the poor video quality is part of what makes it so great.
I remember these machines been like the poor end of the video game market, the Vic 20 and 64 outdid the Sega, and it mainly went well in the US while Australians had the C64 as a success
By SC-1000, do you actually mean SG-1000? Same goes for the Mark II? Maybe I'm just talking about things I know nothing about, having never used one of these machines.
I think you could be right. The memory reads correct when running basic from the multi cart, but not from the original basic cart. Seems the original cart may be faulty
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I grew up on the SC-3000, still have it to this day with the SF-7000, tape deck, modem, printer and a veriety of controllers for it.
Absolutely love this system along with the games and that version of Wonderboy is the best ! 🙂
I did this conversion a little while ago BUT you can do it very neatly using the same type of connector (DIN-8) simply by replacing the existing DIN-5. On my SC3000 adding the DIN-8 was simple as the motherboard even had the extra pin holes with traces that led to solder points where I could add the RGB signals from the TMSRGB.
The beauty is then after the mod you can still use the existing DIN-5 composite cable (as it’s backwards compatible with the DIN-8 pin out) and the new pinout is compatible with SMS and MD1 RGB connector.
@10:22 is encouraging to me. I'm apparently not the only person who sometimes gets the shakes working on these things. I get so worked up over worry about screwing up a fix that I sometimes wonder if it's just hypertension or Parkinsons'. Thank you Mr. Lurch for sharing.
mine is too much coffee :D
@@MrLurchsThings Damn... I was hoping you wouldn't say that. I drink no coffee. :)
Ah, I've been eyeing up a SC-3000 for a long time myself. 💖 I'll definitely have to keep in mind that they can be RGB modded relatively easily.
My first computer! Think I was 15. Better graphics than the more popular C64 games.
In fact, the BASIC language I learnt on the 3000 was more fully utilised than the 64's version - the computers my school used to teach it on. (Simple commands were fine, but doing more complex things like drawing graphics... So instead of using BASIC's "line" command to draw lines, on the C64 you would have to use a proprietary peak or poke command with a correct memory address.) Years later, when I moved to BASIC programming on IBM PCs in Year 10, I already knew all the commands from my Sega SC-3000's BASIC!! The other students struggled as they hadn't learnt the full command set.
When you popped the connector into the hole, I was half expecting you to whip out a hot glue gun.
That would have been one of the only valid uses for hot glue, NGL 😂
Great improvement to the image.
In the introtekst machine has 12k bytes free, at the end it has an rgb mod and suddenly 26k bytes free. Wunderbar!
Nice video, I just got a SC-3000 last week as well as a mk1 sg. The mk2 sg actually has rgb and sync test points you can pull from and run through a triple bypass while the othello multivision and I believe mk1 sg use a 9918 chip. Just subbed!
A family friend had the SC-3000H when I was a kid. I enjoyed playing with it when I went to their place, mainly because it was different to the Commodores I used at school and home. That's a schmick looking RGB mod, and congrats on extracting this SC-3000 from Mark, it must've been a tough job. 😆
Clean install! I love the idea of using a mini-DIN where the modulator was and bonus points for wiring up a disconnect. Have you seen the new & inexpensive F18a alternative that's been developed recently? It replaces the VDP entirely and give you HDMI output.
Amazing item, like you, master system was my first game console, best regards from Portugal
I like exploring (at-least to me) obscure things, Especially computers. Interesting that they are based off the SG1000 early home consoles.
We were also a Sega household. If the Sega SC-3000 had been released here in the states, I would have bought one, for sure.
14:15: Somehow it's unreasonably funny to me how this machine says "Export Version With Diereses" right there in pride of place on the home screen.
[There's a Diaeresis (diacritic) Wikipedia article, in case anyone's wondering.]
Everyone have their own childhood computers and collect them will be satisfying no matter how good the computer it is.
great to see some SEGA love, made my day :)
LGR would love to get his hands on your monitor.....nice video
You prounce sega correctly! 👍
I dunno, I reckon it's quite a stylish-looking system.
Anyway, that was a very neat and satisfying mod!
Agreed. It’s a looker for sure.
Great work and a very interesting machine. I'm tempted to get one of those RGB boards for my MSX as I'm fairly sure it uses the same chip.
It does! In fact that was the other machine I put one in.
@@MrLurchsThings cool, I've ordered 5 PCBs but it'll take a while to pull together all the parts I need.
So what is it? Who used it and where? What did you do with it and what are the specs? More info please. Another video perhaps?
Seems like a fairly easy install. I've got a few TI99 4/a that I could see adding this to one.
I did it a while back on my TI (there’s a video somewhere).
That is nuts dood!
Is that a Mac SE30 in the background? :D
I would recommend you go with a screw mounted connector as you wouldn't need the printed part and wouldn't have issues "pulling out". Searches for "panel mount s video connector female" or "screw mount s video connector female" show a few options. I know your options are more limited where you live.
Great vid as always! Love the SC-3000, have spent a LOT of time with them now. If you ever want to revisit, might I recommend using a 9-pin mini DIN and pinout compatible with Sega Mega Drive 2 AV cables. You can also pick up composite signal right on the TMS-RGB for the cable
I did go looking for a panel mount 9-pin for that reason, but couldn’t find anything I was happy with.
@@MrLurchsThings yeah I'm not sure one exists... Maybe a sub PCB can be made to pick up the RF mod pin holes.... 🤔
@@MrLurchsThings incidentally, if the MITEC ever fails, I have an FPGA replacement ready to go 😅
Yeah. Maybe. Kinda like a breakout board with the header pins and that mounts using the ground holes from the RF can.
10:40: D'oh! I would have like to have seen the "header socket" connector that mates to the pin connector up close. Possibly even see you plug and unplug it. Never mind, carrying on...
I still kick myself for letting my SC3000H and modem for it go. :)
Nice, I believe the early models of the SG-1000 Mk II can be modded using the same method as they should have the same chip. (later models have a Sega chip that outputs RGB and can be modded more easily)
I did it but it requires a little bit more effort
Very nice! That Loderunner port seems to run fast, right?
yeah, it feels a little quicker than your average port.
The French Yeno one has SCART RGB out of the box 😅 But it has an AZERTY keyboard 😢
I have this feeling you just lost your Aussie Card, it's "See-ga" 😀
Didn’t I make that point in the intro?
@@MrLurchsThings You did, but you know, we feel betrayed, hurt and even worried how your going to pronounce 'solder' in future.
@@DavidAStephenson /shudder
I am so confused by this comment 😂
I love my 3000H because it's so, so bad. I adore that it looks like such a cool computer, but it's just such a terrible machine. I don't think I'd ever do this mod because the poor video quality is part of what makes it so great.
You mean "so so... " great!
I remember these machines been like the poor end of the video game market, the Vic 20 and 64 outdid the Sega, and it mainly went well in the US while Australians had the C64 as a success
By SC-1000, do you actually mean SG-1000? Same goes for the Mark II? Maybe I'm just talking about things I know nothing about, having never used one of these machines.
Yup. SG1000.
And no you can not do this on an SG-1000, it has the more basic TMS-9918 which isn’t directly supported by TMSRGB
Something not quite right about the available ram on the boot screen on the first half of the vid....
I think you could be right. The memory reads correct when running basic from the multi cart, but not from the original basic cart. Seems the original cart may be faulty
seegah
Large electrostatic charges are generated when tape is pulled from a roll.
What is the benefit of an ESD Kapton Tape vs. a regular Kapton Tape?
April 14, 2023
ESD (electrostatic discharge) Anti-Static Kapton tape has a conductive adhesive that helps to dissipate static electricity and prevent damage to sensitive electronic components. The main benefit of using ESD Kapton tape over regular Kapton tape is its ability to protect sensitive electronic components from electrostatic discharge.
I’m not sure what your point is?