Why Did This Happen?
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- Why would the propeller on a P-3 Orion stop rotating? It may look like an accident, but it's #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #shorts
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"Slow down if you wanna last long" best advice my father ever gave me.
It's not really a good advice
not good if its your wife who told you xD
😂
😂
I agree to that
"Slow down if you wanna last long".
That sounds like an advice people can use daily. 👀
Sounds like *great* advice!
Better not tell that to COVID
Daily😳
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That's kinda su-
"We shut down another engine or two and we'll be up here all week"
LOL!
Sadly, i know a few people that would make sense to.
"Ignorance is bliss, and i know a lot of happy fuckin people"-Dug
"Hey guys! Bet if we shut three down we could beat the record for longest time airborne without aerial refuel!!"
"If we shut them all down we could be up here the rest of our lives"
@@Damocles54 😂
@@Damocles54 except on a P-3 that works… they went the longest time without aerial refueling
"Slow down if you wanna last long"
Greatest advice ever
THATS WHAT SHE SAID
@@brythkaltaris **Accidentally makes her gregnant**
That's what she said
Being chased by a bear
GREGNANT
Bruh, this channel and it's puns ARE THE BEST
He always has good puns for us.
You said it bro
Right!!? Mf said, “so the moral of the story is, slow down, if you want to last long!”. F**king words or wisdom. We all know what he’ talm bout 👍🏽😅🤤🍑🍆
You read my mind I was just going to comment the same exact thing strange.
the prop guy
“Slow down if you wanna last long”
-Master Oogway
Oh no
@@Suspicious259 hail nah
That’s what she said
Noodles, no noodles
"Speed up if you just wanna nut."
-Master Goo-yay
*PRO TIP:* If you turn off *ALL* the engines, you’ll be the first one to the scene of the crash!
Amen 🙏🏼
@@Salbarricades
The women and children, too!
Most airplanes are actually quite capable of gliding. Even the big jumbojets. So as long as there is a safe place to land in the vicinity, mere engine failure is not that big a problem.
@@Kackpuh * *Salutes Captain Obvious* *. Yes captain, I’m well aware of that. It was a joke
The propeller is used to cool down the pilot. If all the propellers stop, the pilot will start to sweat.
"Slow down if you wanna last long"
-That's what she said
*sobbing in the corner
but it is not what you think
@@JG-xm8jy >>> YES IT IS...😊
@@JG-xm8jy bro 😂
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman it is literally the channel name, you can't trust your brain
www.youtubeuis.com/watch?v=kkY-5QNbmnsM
I was a ground engineer on RNZAF 5 Squadron P3bs in the early 1970s.
They were the best sunhunters at the time in the Pacific
Right on! It seems you and I served in similar squadrons with similar aircraft at the time and with similar roles and areas of operation.
I served with the U.S. Navy’s Reconnaissance Squadron 2 or VQ-2 stationed in Rota, Spain in the late 1980’s & beyond.
I had the time of my life and got the opportunity to deploy, detach, TAD and take liberty to all sorts of foreign countries while stationed in Spain.
Thank you for your service!!
✌🏽🇺🇸 🇳🇿🙏
Good to know Kiwi's know how to last long.
@@knowahnosenothing4862 We're up all night, it's called nocturnal.
VP1, 1981-1984, Barber's Pt Hi. We had Super B's
“Slow down if you wanna last long” best advice my StepSis ever gave me.
😂😂 shit.
😂😂
Sweet home Alabama.
Ay yo
Ayo
Mad Kiwis doing it over water too.
I mean, it’s the only safe landing strip, not many places to land between the towns, cities, mountains, valleys and hills
I think most crews are over the sea due to it being an anti submarine aircraft.
@@josephgraham1590 I don’t think nz has anti submarine capabilities hahaha
@@fpsdovah2572 nz has its own dragons and visiting helicopters that can drop things that go boom.
Almost like that’s where the submarine’s are…
In 1987 I rode a P-3 for 20 hrs 35 min. It was FAM flight for Midshipman training. During our brief it was said that 20 hour flights were common. The P-3 Orion had beautiful long legs for a propeller aircraft was one of the fastest.
“But it’s not what you think” always makes me wonder what crazy crap is going to happen
Well Not me
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@@NotWhatYouThink that’s the first time I was first
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A propeller is actually just big fan to keep the pilot cool.
When it stops you can watch the pilot start sweating...
😂
Clever.
r/TechnicallyTheTruth
lol
Well yes, but no!
“I’m a P-3 guy and I’m ok, I drink all night and fly all day”
AW here. The P-3 was the best duty anyone could ever ask for.
@@jtay1393 AT here, agreed. Best avionics ever
A guy I knew was a P-3 crew..one big party
AD here, loved that airplane
@@jtay1393 - Former AX, AW Jez/Julie/ in-flight tech, and Mustang LCDR TACO. Logged over 4000 hours.
The delivery and voice acting on the jokes has gotten REALLY good.
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"slow down if you wanna last long"
*that's what she said*
Also her: "Faster, faster."
😂
@@np4029 8878 its u 70.35 I 66 it y yt yt u u y u 61.84 me
slows down*
feels way better*
nuts instantly"
AYOOOO
My Dad was a P3 pilot and he said they routinely shutdown multiple engines while on station to conserve fuel as they always wanted a reserve just in case... lol
Totally thought this was going to be about the camera frame rate being in sync with the rotational speed.
Guess it wasn't what you thought, huh
Thought the same thing. Cheers bud
Same here, until I saw the paint on the prop.
Aha!! It wasn't what you thought!
About the only instance!
On another note, I love your supposition, about the frame rate
yes, me too
I’ve noticed lately, this is not the first time he’s used sexual innuendo in his video and I’m here for it! Haha keep it up
69 likes, perfect, time to not like your comment.
Keep it up.lol
I didn't even notice a sexual innuendo until you mentioned it 🙄. Goes to show what occupies a person's mind 😏😂
Haha segs joke haha
I think he used this trick (it never gets old) from the start of his channel XD
"Slow down if you wanna last long!" - BEST advice my wife gave me!! 🤣👍
Tell her to shut up
"Slow down if you want to last longer"
Polnareff: yeah
😔
THATS WHAT SHE SAID
Jojo polnareff?
@@smallgokudrip752 yes, Remember he became a turtle
Yeah yeah. Unlimited lifespan
Your ongoing innuendos are noticed and appreciated. I think they’re funny.
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I’m a former US Navy P-3 ground pounder. Lots of times I’d help send a plane off towards the end of my shift and come back 12 hours later and see the same plane arrive back (with a list of pilot write ups!).
Great plane but could be a maintenance hog at times.
Got to fly across the Pacific three times as a passenger on P-3’s. Also several other shorter flights. Shutting down an engine was standard operating procedure. The good pilots could shut an engine down and no one would notice.
Flying on a turboprop across the Pacific isn’t something I want to experience again. It took forever!
Also flew from Moffett Field to Hawaii on one for a “good deal” trip. A jet takes four and a half to five hours. A P-3, eight hours!
I should add that a P-3 can’t fly across the Pacific non-stop. We had to make several stops.
@@DardanellesBy108 my brother flew on P3's. Told me how they were up and were to be relieved. The relief on pre inspection was grounded. The next one took off and had a in-flight emergency,turned around and landed.
They stayed up in pattern until relieved. Engines quit on final approach and landed
@@DardanellesBy108 Thank you for your service! I was a former P-3 Flight Engineer. We would shut down the #1 to save gas because it was the only engine without an electrical generator. The P-3 actually could be configured to have enough fuel range to fly non-stop across the pacific but only if you flew it below the amount of fuel required to return safely home. IF you attempted to take that bird across the pond non-stop, you could end up with a mechanical failure mid way that resulted in not having enough fuel make it home or to your destination. It's not that it couldn't be done, but that it wasn't worth the risk of ditching at sea.
I used to live in Sunnyvale, CA in the late 70’s. My apartment was about a mile from the end of the Moffit Field and I enjoyed watching the P-3’s on their approach to landing. There was also the occasional flight of fighter planes that would come in as well. Never tired of watching them. (I was also in the process of getting my private pilot certificate at the time so I was always watching anything that flew!)😀
I was an AE (aircraft electrician) on the P3 Orion for over 10 years. Flying P3's on station with two engines shut down is normal and is called loiter configuration. Those big T-56 Alison engines are overpowered for the airframe and the aircraft can get by with only one if need be. Before being configured for Naval anti submarine warfare, they were the Lokheed Electra passenger aircraft. First flight was December 6, 1956. Two Electras crashed ending their use in civil aviation but they had a long and proud life in the U.S. Navy.
I was an AE also in the 70's. What a bird the P-3 was. Great memories.
The problem with the Electra was the triangular engine mount. They had problems with the engine oscillating and breaking loose. Once they went to a trapezoidal mount, with 4 attachment points, the issue was corrected.
P.S. I was a Dub. Sensor 1. 4,500 hours. NATOPS Instructor. Served 1975-1995, retired as an AWC.
@@jimtownsend7899 Sounds like you had a great career with P-3's. I wasn't aware of the engine mount issues, that's interesting. I can't imagine one of those engines falling off. That would get my heart racing! lol
@@richardsteinbergmakingknives Your heart wouldn't race for long! 😖
And thanks. Yes, it was quite a love affair. Stinky, bumpy, noisy, leaky; but that plane loved me anyway! 😁
My father flew P-3’s for 12 years. I think the lines, proportions, and angles make it a beautiful airplane. Engines sound very unique also. Probably my favorite plane.
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"Slow down if you want to last long"
Good advice
"slow down, if you wanna last long" kinda feel me moved ngl
Interestingly, I heard some cars do the same thing: when in "eco" mode, they fire only two of their four cylinders.
My 98 kia took this advanced technology one step further, cylinder #3 never fired at all.
As far as I know this has not been implemented in any four cylinder engines for production cars. But it definitely has been used in some cars/trucks with more than 4 cylinders.
My car is a hybrid and just fires zero cylinders most of the time when the power needed is ~ 5 horsepower or less since that can comfortably be provided by its electric power system... typical hybrid car energy saving strategy
@@julianbrelsford I did a bit of research and apparently you're correct. There's the Chrysler's Multi-Displacement System (MDS) that works with V8 engines and the Honda's Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) for their V6 engines. There could be more systems around, I just remembered hearing about that method and wanted to share it.
@@grogdocr 😂😂 that’s some real fuel economy
www.youtubeuis.com/watch?v=deRHlcbwuucQ
They “feathered” the propeller after shutting the engine down, you will notice.
It is one thing to slow down; quite another thing to make sure you don’t create drag.
what mean
@@chadocracy They angled the turned off prop into the wind so it wont make drag
@@chadocracy propeller planes have to angle their propellers to be effective when flying so when they shut it off they angled it to face straight forward to not make drag.
The prop is automatically feathered as part pulling the Emergency Shutdown handle.
@@Pitchlock8251 are you sure about that? Normal procedure to reduce power and use the fuel cutoff and feather.. Its been 57 years I might not be remembering correctly.
The P-3s were amazing. We've seen them dive at runways while the Navy handler was telling our group how they need miles and miles of approach to land. And they're based on a 1950s airliner design.
Are*. Still in service my guy.
Flew as an Air Crewman on P-3's in the 80's.
True, the Lockheed L-1088 Electra!
"Slow down if you wanna last long" is not what you think
The amount of sacrifices we ask of our service men and women. Respect.
You’re right.
“Slow down if you wanna last long”
Brushing my teeth while watching this. About to take that advice straight to the bedroom. Wish me luck
Update?
@@Mystic_Aris If I recall correctly the wife probably shot down my advances. She's pregnant and never wants it now lmao
@@TJ-bk9vf one month later and I am genuinely concerned that my brother still hasn't gotten any
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom actually got me a piece last night. The second trimester is a lot better than the first! Your concern is appreciated.
Haven't seen the inside of a P-3 in 7 years. Recognized all the interior shots. But yes, they usually shut down No. 1 since it doesn't have a generator while they're on station. No. 2 and 3 have generators and sources for bleed air and No. 4 has a generator attached to it as well.
I was looking at the approach plate lol. Training myself to fly cause simming is a passion of mine.
Looks like a Charlie bird.
Yeah, correct, #1 preferable engine to loiter.
VP-10 '75-'77. Spotted that feathered #1 right away.
@@richsinger4620 did you ever fly the P-3?
Now if my car needs to save gas, I'll turn off the engine and run on broken dreams
I'm almost 60yrs old.. i think my whole life has run on broken dreams and too little sleep.. 🤢🤏
@@francom6230 🥺😥
@@francom6230 go skydiving or play some airsoft. Or get yourself a powered paraglider
Hey my truck will shut off 4 cylinders to save fuel
Those Allison engines are pure power
That’s what I wanted to hear 🇳🇿 💪
Cant wait to see the p8 in our skies.
Yes 🇳🇿
Kia ora
Id never heard that fact but hey it just shows us kiwis are great at adapting to problems
Our only airforce achievement lmao
Dang, NWYT be giving life advice. Now, what they said in this video is actually good advice, I have followed it in the past and it has made life a *lot* better.
RIP P-3. You’re service to the Navy was invaluable. Much to be expected from the P-8s
Jacksonville still has a couple. Not many though.
The EP-3 is still going to be in service for another five years or so. They are still in work on its replacement
P-8 ,has "big shoes" to fill
"slow down if you wanna last long"
I know you're a man of culture
I think they’re funny.
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Absolutely love this dude ❤️
Turn progressively more engines off to increase flight time, except the last one, turning the last one off greatly reduces flight time. (technically to zero as you're gliding from that point).
It’s zero because they’re underwater lol
I'm guessing your comment was aimed at the American market, cos the rest of the world could work out if you shut down all engines, your gliding! So the brackets must have been for the yanks, that, or your just captain obvious!
@@timfagan816 My point was it could be debated as to whether 'gliding time' counted as 'flight time' or not, since it's no longer 'powered flight'. I don't want to open a debate about it as, in either case, gliding time is significantly less than powered flight time no matter how many engines.
@@ekij133 right!
P3 only needs one engine with 1/4 fuel. 4 engines with full tank
I can confirm that it is/was standard procedure to shut down and feather #1 and #4 to conserve fuel for maximum loiter time. I never went 21 hours though!
Sound like a FE, MY FAVORITE PERSON
I was a P-3 Aircrewman for 20 years. I had a PPC (Patrol Plane Commander) who used to loiter 1 and 4 on a regular basis. I used to make the snarky comment, "If we shut down 2 engines to stay longer, why don't we just shut down the other two and stay all week?"
Good to see our home New Zealand being finally recognised for something
We're also know for having some of the best military trackers and our average soldier is basically the same as the US Marines
I was taught this lesson through studying bobby seale. Him and his smuggler planes were able to withstand larger aircrafts because they went on minimal power, essentially waiting out the larger aircrafts fuel consumption so that the smugglers could complete their routes uninterrupted.
Barry Seal RIP '84, Bobby was long gone by then but not forgotten
I took that moral of the story at heart. Am now lasting longer than I can manage!
"slow down if you want to last long" i will remember that LOL
Yeah that’s us Kiwis… 21 hours, also the pilots were watching a movie and writing an award winning novel at the same time. Also they fly upside down because we’re on the bottom of the planet. Basically we’re the best 😎
Yeeee bah kiwis rekt those Americans
Kiwis were always bad asses at ASW during joint ops
@@richardclapp256 what’s ASW?
@@lavasharkandboygirl9716 anti-submarine warfare
@@richardclapp256 that’s so cool to hear, I’m a kiwi but don’t know much about our military
P-3’s can cruise on one engine, but they normally only feather two for safety.
21hrs! Here in NZ we'll have a Massey Ferguson running off an oily rag for days ! 🤣🤣🤣
Good on ya mate
And then run a real Mini (not the BMW crap) on the remaining fumes from the rag for a week.
Yes yes
Correct even with some cars
kiwis for life am in Henderson Auckland
“Slow down if you wanna last long”. Brilliant.
Great advice for these young whipper snappers
I was flying as a child about 7 with my grandma. That’s when almost all commercial planes were propeller. Three of 4 engines went out for over 5 minutes. 2 were on fire. My grandma was so scared.
The shutting down of engines for loiter operations was all determined by several factors, gross weight, outside air temperature, operating altitude, icing conditions and mission requirements. If a nuclear attack was imminent, we would have done whatever is necessary to prevent a enemy sub from launching their missile's. Even if it was a one-way trip for the airplane and crew.
WE....mate I seriously doubt you flew this plane, but if....it's a bit weird to comment your own flight & it's even more strange to reveal actions that would have been taken...if...although known you shouldn't talk about this Mr Randal it's classified information, leave it to a pro.
@@marcelhulsman5297 Please explain your comment, I don’t understand what so ever.
@@marcelhulsman5297 My thoughts exactly.
@@marcelhulsman5297 brain.exe has stopped responding
You should delete. I don't talk about engineer unit operations in war time. An enemy knowing what our move will be, they can incorporate it in their war games.
My grandpa flew P-3’s during the Cold War. Whenever anyone would thank him for his service he’d always reply with “my pleasure, I had a hell of a good time in the navy!”
Best naval service ever..always good chow cause we stayed on naval air stations on the ground. Bars were accessible, most towns were ours to play in.
As long as you didnt get stationed in Iceland or diego garcia, all was fine
I was an officer and flew C-130s in the USAF in the 1980s and 1990s. When the military was a man's world. We had a crazy f_cking GREAT TIME. It was getting paid to travel the world and have the time of one's life. I travelled everywhere and stayed mostly in 4 to 5 star hotels and was treated like a king.
Prior to that I was an ENLISTED Marine. So I know how tough and shitty military life can be. But I always claim the Marine Corps even though flying for USAF was a picnic once I was operational and flying the line and knew what I was doing. Ah shit, relative to being a Marine, it was a picnic during Air Force OTS and flight training. Survival School was no picnic, but compared to Marine Corps Recruit Training, anything, even SERE Training was a picnic.
When people say, "Thank you for your service", I tell them I had the time of my life. My uncle went war in in WWII. I went to "Whore" around the world and the Herky Bird was my coach.
Orions: THE finest ASW platform, ever!
@@pootthatbak2578 and you could get lucky and not have to move all the time, my Dad did 27 years, and had 4 duty stations, Guam, Pax River, Jacksonville and Dallas. And when he retired in Dallas, he ran the L3 civilian side of the project for another 20 years. He spent a lot of time on P3s, some on C130s, and a couple years on ES-3As, a lot of time on sub hunters, but never did any sub hunting
if you want cocktails and tropical beaches, fly maritime. best 10yrs of my career.
My dad served 15 years as an aircrew in P-3, he’s retired in 1994 from the Navy. It’s my favorite airplane because it’s so reliable.
We're actually retiring the Orion's here in New Zealand, replacing them with P-8s
That’s the plan but I hope you’re not holding your breath waiting for that to happen
@@konewone361 the first one has already had its first flight.
@@konewone361 The first one arrives into NZ mid next month.
These fancy new jets that we could not run, but all that speed comes at a heavy price. They can go fast and we could go slow...for a long time.
- Barry Seal, American Made (2017)
I just don't see the advantage of the P-4 Poseidon over the P-3 Orion. I'm going to miss the Orions.
you ever notice how "not what you think" is so positive about the US military and US political goals
Kiwi's always the best at being tight arses with everything 😂
not wrong 🤣
I live in New Zealand and we just work smarter not harder 🤣🤣🤣
No hate though bro it's your opinion so no one should take it to offense I don't 🤣🤣
They actually swapped all the engines out for corolla engines, for extra efficiency too.
21 hours airborne isn't bad for a flightless bird
@@jesseandrew8733 so true lmao
"Slow down if you wanna last long"
*Well, tbh that's what she actually said*
My father was in VP-30 for a while at Patuxent river. He did the parts ordering for the Orions. He then went to carrier duty again. I loved living there as a kid. The squadron moved to NAS Jacksonville.
The intro line “seeing *THIS, usually makes people… crAp* their pants
Absolutely ***chefs kiss*** perfect.
Engine Driven Compressors are functional only on the 2 and 3 engine. The EDC is used for pressurization and air conditioning, although you can fly on one EDC. You will have to fly lower. You can fly on two engines in the Orion easily. You can also fly on one engine in a 737. Worked on both of them for over 12 years.
So the pressurization & air conditioning only come from 2 and 3 but they still produce rated power as in engines 1 and 4 right??
@@collins9708 Correct. I’m not an Flight Engineer only a mechanic, but using only two engines would require feathering of the propellers though, I’m almost certain. I’ve flown in them countless times and turned them on the ground more time than I care to remember.
@@Breatheable A&P ?
@@collins9708 I was an AME in the Navy for 13 years. I worked on A-4’s for about six months, P-3’s for nine years and P-8 Poseidon’s for three years (737). I messed my back up pretty good. I couldn’t squirm around in aircraft anymore. I’m qualified for the airframes side though.
@@Breatheable ah nice, I'm in school right now for A&P
Thank you for this advice sir... I wont forget it
LOL! “Slow down if you want to last long”
Me looking at my 2 toddler boys: Pfft, that didn’t work for daddy 😒
I used to fly on this plane as an IFT. Best years of my life. Go Navy!
I get to see them fly overhead all day long. They look so cool I would kill to fly in one.
I was a ground pounder AT with VP-46 back in 87-91. Which squadron were you in?
IFT also, in VP-48 early 80s.
VP-1 AMS3 Whatup Shipmate
Still tattooing out of the CC in Qatar? 😉
My brother was a member of p3's crew out of Jacksonville. He flew many hours during the Cuban missile crisis.
I’m really loving the morale of the story 🍻
The perfect bedroom advice at the end lmao
Good ole papa chuck keeping us safe for 60 years
I live near a naval air station and get to watch these fly over all day long. Their normal circular flight path goes over my school and house and I love just watching them all day. I personally think they look a lot cooler than the p-8s which also fly the same path
Though, the P-8 can’t do most of what the P-3 could. Weird huh. Well, sometimes old tech is just better tech. Remember that as you get older. I worked on them for 10 years. Loved and miss every bit of it. Enjoy those propellers humming over you.
21hrs must've been done on a single engine? It's very cool the way they can feather the props. I'm always amazed by the strength of the joints on prop and helo blades. Movable and reliable even with so much force acting on them.
no probably just planned on a long flight so instead of turning off engines throughout the flight they just ran on 2 the whole time. also probably had some extra fuel
My dad actually got an air medal for landing a P3 with three burnt out engines in the 80s. Wild stuff but it is possible
@@boldandbrashcrafts727 I am not be surprised to learn that it will stay in the air on one engine. They are powerful turbojet engines. And if you have 3 on standby (not broken) then you're golden.
They never "loitered" more than 2 engines.
This explains something I saw once near Moffett Field in the San Francisco Bay Area. I watched a P-3 shut an engine off while flying and thought "That can't be good" didn't realize that was normal.
“Slow down if you wanna last long”
AHAHAHA thanks bro 😭
Fun fact: if you shut down all the engine, you can land faster than usual.
I had the pleasure at the Moffet Field Naval Airstation Air show. Watching as an F-16 and a P-3 Orion performed a simultaneous climb out from a full stop to 10,000 feet. Both aircraft reached 10,000 at the same time. I am still impressed with this performance. This was a fantastic aircraft for the U.S. Navy.
I worked next door at the Frank Azuna AFB for IBM as a Series 1 Engineer.
This brings to mind a story seen in 1990s book about Air National Guard: Atlantic Coast F-16s would intercept Soviet Tu-something Bears just idling up and down the US East Coast and after some time flying in formation taking photos and exchanging gestures the Bear pilots would firewall their throttles, the turbines would belch smoke, and those big props would bite enough air to accelerate at such a rate the jets had to select afterburner for a bit to catch up.
My dad said most of the time they would run on 2 props when they got to their AO. When the Navy decided to go with the P-8 jet engine aircraft for sub hunting he would tell me, "Yeah you can get there faster but how are you supposed to conserve fuel while dropping buoys looking for Russians?" That's the advantage of turbo-props to jet engines, staying on target longer at lower speeds. VP-69 West Coast boys didn't run away in desert storm like East coast crews when the computer went out. They could navigate at night with a sexton. Whoever is still flying the Orion over the Tri-Cities, WA you make me smile every time I watch you do the low and slow circles
Haven't flown the P-3, but it's successor is quite good at maximizing onsta times...with endurance mode and HAASW (weather permitting) I'd say you could do just fine ha
Not to mention the P-3 is just straight up iconic
Flew in p3's for 8 years on east coast. We flew on 2 engine at 1k feet all the time in the Mediterranean or when we were at higher altitudes in the Atlantic. P3's are an awesome aircraft.
AO?
AO = Aviation Ordnanceman or Area of Operations
nice moral, I will totally use it ..... in my plane piloting YES YES.
VP-48 P-3 Mechanic here.
Our squadron rarely ever did this as it puts huge strain on the props that are carrying the load. Side note...I don't ever remember our P-3s ever being fully fueled...often the center fuselage tank only carried minimum fuel...to keep the seals affective. Total work horses...Same people that make the C-130.
Kiwi's are known for their staying power - that's why, just like the Trojans, they were chosen to defend the Pass of Thermopylae ;-)
Also cause we're stubborn
So good, you got ripped off by the bot. _Excellent_ use of wordplay, my dude.
Somewhere, sometime it’s bound to be said without a thought: what if they just shut down all four engines? I mean, won’t they really conserve a lot of fuel then???
You actually can fly reasonable distances without engines even in non-gliding airplanes, granted for a shorter time than gliders. Small planes often entirely shut off their engines when landing because there just isn’t enough drag to slow down the plane enough without it. Since this particular plane is designed for low power flights I wouldn’t be surprised if they could get a very long glide time out of it.
@@Natibe_ that’s wrong, I don’t know of a single airplane that is designed to land with shut off engines
@@oakleyswoodworking5748 I mean, they land with them. Not fly. My Cessna’s prop often isn’t even spinning if I land in a headwind. But glide distance IS a thing, it’s one of the specs you specify when coming up with a new plane design. Often the FAA won’t cert your experimental if it can’t glide without power for x distance from y height, it’s why there are no private VTOL planes. They drop outta the sky like rocks, even helicopters autorotate when the engine goes off so you can still crash land em with some degree of safety.
Are they meant to glide indefinitely off thermals like a glider? No. Are they meant to be able to controlled land 5 miles away on a runway with no engine power from 3k ft? Yeah. They are.
They actually would if the wind speeds were high enough and they needed to stay on target. The wind would generate the air speed they needed to stay aloft, and they would basically have no ground speed.
"Slow down if you wanna last long"
Best advice the football team gave me
I absolutely love your inside jokes, they're quite subtle yet elegant
Similarly, In swimming too you need to move your hands and legs swiftly so that you can move further
Fun fact:
The Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm did a similar thing back in the Cold War with their Gannets who had two contra-rotating props, which were actually powered each by their own engine
So on long flights they'd just shut one down and fly the rest of the mission on one engine, unfortunately a Gannet is a tad less comfy than a P-3
One of the nicest aircraft I've ever worked on and fun to fly in
"Slow down if you wanna last long"
can also be implemented in night battles
The Fairey Gannet was a Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm anti-sub warfare plane that flew from carriers. It had two turboprop engines connected to a gear box with a single shaft double prop. It would use both props for taking off and then when airborne and cruising would shut down one engine and prop. It could thus stay in the air for a good 6 hours
"We lost engine one"
"And engine two is no longer one fire"🐧
It’s only a matter of time 🐧
the Fairey Gannet used for the same purpose had two engines. It was routine to switch off one engine on patrol .
My guy over here really just said “slow down if you wanna last long”
The aircraft is actually designed to be able to fly on a single engine. It's most stable with one running on each wing, but it can easily stay aloft with one engine running total.
Wtf
Not surprised, the P-3 is a legendary machine
@@zarrowthehorse It doesn’t need a hell of a lot of speed to stay aloft. It has very large wings. It has 4 engines for redundancy and to be able to carry a lot of weight, but if it isn’t loaded up, a single engine will do to stay up (not take off) and land.
You won’t stay aloft long in a P3 with a full crew on a single engine.
Uhmm no it can't fly on 1 engine only, but that will help it glide to the ground slower. Minimum to fly and land (not takeoff) is 1 engine running on each wing.
Why is the « it’s not what you think » so iconic that it just pops in my head when I hear that voice??
I have a question, why don't the propeller continue spinning flying through the air? Is it because it's too heavy?
They rotate the blades so that they face the direction of the flight and therefore dont rotate. The might also lock the propeller axis so that it just stands still (I'm not sure though)
Because that would be drag. A spinning propeller has a surface area the same of a flat disc similar to propeller's radius. So if you're conserving fuel you don't want to create unnecessary drag slowing you down and drag ofc increases fuel consumption so since most props are variable pitch they just do that. Side note: if your multi engine aircraft engine failed you need to stop it from windmilling for the same reason
There so much friction and mechanical stuff involved, but most importantly they make the blade flat and with the wind so that theres less drag.
I worked on P-3’s. It’s been 30 years since getting out of the Navy but I think my memory is correct: When the props are feathered there is a locking mechanism that keeps the prop from windmilling.
@@jeanpotato7532 In the RGB reduction gear box that the prop is attached to has what we call ( the prop brake). It is a cone shape spring loaded disk that applies pressure onto another rotating disk. When the engine rotates oil pressure keeps these disk separated.
The propeller at the beginning of the vid stays parralel to the direction of flight because it minimises the friction with the air,making the plane glide longer
The plane isn't gliding; it flying on 3 powered engines to increase fuel efficiency and time on station.
@@danepcarver4951 yes,but anyway;)
Yea it’s called feathering the prop
I was Air Crew on a P-3C flying out of Misawa Japan. One engine shut down was common. Two engine was not that unusual. If you were light enough the P3 could fly on one engine. Which we had to did in a similar situation one time. But we climbed up to 10,000 feet AGL and lit off the APU so we could restart one of the other engines if that last engine craps out, we could restart another engine before we reached ground level. the P3 has the glide ratio only slightly getter than a brick!
We only did 18 hours airborne. And we had to stop at Iwakuni for JP5 to get back home.
This is the same reason SOCOM is running trials for a new turboprop overwatch aircraft instead of relying on jet tech. You can make decisions on the fuel flow rate and engine operations for a prop that you simply can't with a jet, which needs a constant, precise amount of fuel. These new overwatch aircraft (which I think will be the Wily, I've seen so many Wily flights out of Eglin the last couple months) will need the ability to deploy troops, munitions, and provide ISR support as well as general overwatch, which means they need to be able to linger far longer than their initial flight plan called for.
Fun fact;
Lockheed made a civilian counterpart to the P3 called the L188 "Electra"
And another fun fact - Even though the Electra no longer serves passenger flights, it's still used as a cargo hauler. The last few airworthy examples can be found in Canada, where Buffalo Airlines still operates the type for cargo that their DC3 and C46 fleets can't carry.