The Ryan Garcia thing is bizarre. I've never seen somebody fail tests, come in overweight and get treated like a hero and a victim. I know a lot of his fans aren't real boxing people, but still don't get it. Never seen anything like it.
@@mikeadams7904 I think they're quite similar in their approach, it would be a great fight for Whyte to silence the doubters or a perfect fight to see if his name deserves to be mentioned anymore.
No point. Kabayel past all that now. Makhmudov and Especially Sanchez are not wins to be sniffed at. We're looking at title contender status very soon. Parker or Ruiz would be good.
Joe Joyce beat Daniel Dubios in a great upset and now look how Frank has played with Joyce’s career. Dubios has won a interim belt, got a title shot with Usyk, has a bounce back and chance to win the IBF belt if vacated. And he’s gotten 2 Saudi paydays. Meanwhile, Joe Joyce got put in with Takam and then a bogeyman to the top guys in Zhang, in back to back devastating knockouts. Couldve pushed for Joe to get his title shot before he lost, but now he’s stuck fighting a old Chisora in a summer dust up 😂😂
Surprised Joyce hasn’t featured in Saudi yet if I’m not mistaken, the Joe Parker rematch seems like a no brainier given both available and Parker wants it
He purposely sabotaged Joyce by putting him in with the only guy in the division who, due to styles, was guaranteed to smash him up. The great shame is - Joyce is one of the only guys, also due to styles, that had a legit chance against Usyk.
@@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin What are you basing this on cause every time they've fought usyks beaten him easily. Watch the fight in the wsb, Joyce has only gotten slower since
They should have blacklisted Chisora from fighting years ago. He's already showing obvious sings of brain damage, but fish eyes wants to lecture us about "mental health" when it comes to Fury 😂
“I care about his health. I don’t like it, but yes I’ll watch it” Surely that’s at the root of the problem. He’s able to continue to fight and risk his health because people en masse, can see he’s getting old and taking damage but continue to watch him
I think fury could do with Ben Davidson now, trying to look for the knockout against usyk has been proven it’s a long reach, the guys got a chin and doesn’t know how to loose
I thought it was a joke. Oh, it is 😂. I really like Derek, wish he would stick to interviewing though. He was the only one who said something to the Ref after the Usyk fight Saturday lol
Chisora is basically Apollo Creed in Rocky 4 now. Talking to Balboa about how warriors need to fight instead of retiring. Hopefully he doesn't face a similar end.
Brick Top has been punishing him for beating Dubois. Thats why he was put in with Zhang - the one fighter in the division who might as well have been designed in a Chinese factory specifically to destroy Joyce.
One of the banes of my life is listening to people constantly tell every fighter to retire, while in the same breath lambasting them for not having 150 fights like the old timers. And Chisora in particular - people have been chanting for him to retire since at least Whyte 2, after which he went on to put in half a decade of good wins and performances while getting paid and enjoying himself. Now though...finally....I think it may indeed be time. Unless he wins lol, then I won't know what to think.
If Fury or Usyk hints at retirement Turki just gonna increase the purse to stay lol. The rematch is gonna happen. It was a great fight, the money's huge and there's no garuntees either man would do as good against another top heavyweight at this moment in time. AJ could go straight through Fury for all we know and Usyk's staring 38 years old in the face which doesn't suit his insane cardio high volume pressing style so... do the rematch, get an extra 70-100 mil EACH, then sail off into the sunset.
Blows my mind still that His Excellency is going to end up spending $1bn+ on Boxing just for the sake of it when it’s all said and done. Insane matchmaker but thanks 😂
lost 4 of last 6 and one of those was supposed to be a layup against Gerald Washington whom he struggled with. I thought he was about done over a decade ago when Klitchko beat him to a pulp.
After the Parker rematch i saw chisoraa punch resistance was gone so wanted him to retire then. If chisora is going to fight I want him to fight someone who can't punch
So you want the same commission who owns the license of the fighters in the UK and signs off the safety for each fighter to participate, to then punish warren by taking his license that they control when it's their choice in the first place to approve it? I think you are trying to consider Chisoras safety but try pointing the finger in the right place because promoters aren't going to something out of the goodness of their heart if the licensing body tells them to proceed....
I had the fight as a draw or Fury edging it by a round 🤷♂️ he was bossing Usyk round 2 till 7 and gave him 11 and 12. I don't begrudge Usyk getting the win though.
Well, why not? I don’t think it’s a particularly bad match up tbh. Seen much worse, both at back end of their career, should be a decent fight. I don’t see the problem.
The fake concern is nauseating, both are medically cleared to fight and it's obviously going to be a great fight for as long as it lasts due to the styles
Chisora is a grown man..if he wants to fight then im sure he will take responsibility for the future consequences..why is everyone so "oh he shdnt fight" they all will watch it anyway.if Derek isnt concerned why shd we be? Im sure him n his medical advisors know his state.if its ok for them its ok for me..whatever happens in the future
If Joyce has ducked Zhang he'd probably have ploughed through a few easier fights and be fighting for the IBF by now. Joe has nothing to gain from winning this fight.
If fury has any sense he won’t let his dad ever attend any of his fights again , fury can win if he concentrates listens to sugar hill and stops clowning
Back in the good ol days veterans used too fight eachother. It wasn’t uncommon for fighter that had had long days fight and careers too carry on till they wanted too stop, Chisora is a throw back in that regard
Joyce's punch resistance is probably not amazing anymore after Zhang destroyed him and Cash Ali was landing big overhand rights on Joe for free as will Chisora since Joe is utterly useless God love him. So Chisora has a chance Imho. Maybe not a great chance but he's a unit and how many Chisora bombs can Joe eat without buckling?
Funny how garcia starts exposing Disney and the nefarious antics in elite circles , then all of a sudden he fails a test. Twice. I suggest people use logic here. His last test before the fight was all clear.
Usyk looking to drop down to cruiserweight🤔 hopefully its after the rematch with fury, and usyk been stripped of the ibf it will got to Daniel Dubois vs hrgoivc and Anthony Joshua will fight the winner more than likely 💯❤️🥊
@@stephengoulding1595 you said it mate,but thats the hole point , so he can win win win with out any boxer giving him problems , i e wellcome to The politics of boxing
Ade, haven’t seen your last few videos so maybe I missed it but have you changed your camera angle? As for Joyce Chisora, couldn’t care less. Won’t be watching.
Joe Joyce Dillian Whyte
Joe Joyce Jermaine Franklin
Joe Joyce Jerrell Miller
It’s called a tune up fight for Chrisora vs Fury 4
😂😂
Yes!! That's the fight that everyone wants to see!
Fury? He just fought for undisputed. Maybe AJ vs chisora though?
@@Tommy-pz2yclol bet your fun at parties
@@Tommy-pz2yc the sacarsm flew over your head
The Ryan Garcia thing is bizarre. I've never seen somebody fail tests, come in overweight and get treated like a hero and a victim. I know a lot of his fans aren't real boxing people, but still don't get it. Never seen anything like it.
Ade is one of his biggest fan girls unfortunately.
@@TheSixYardBoxit’s down to the paymasters
It’s crazy
it really is strange but it gives us an accurate glimpse of who the younger fight fans truly are.
Haney is strongly disliked and Garcia's struggles are what the average Joe like.
I was hoping Turki was going to put on Agit Kabayel vs Dillian Whyte, that would be an extremely fun fight.
Whyte would get beat there
@@mikeadams7904 I think they're quite similar in their approach, it would be a great fight for Whyte to silence the doubters or a perfect fight to see if his name deserves to be mentioned anymore.
No point. Kabayel past all that now. Makhmudov and Especially Sanchez are not wins to be sniffed at. We're looking at title contender status very soon. Parker or Ruiz would be good.
Joe Joyce beat Daniel Dubios in a great upset and now look how Frank has played with Joyce’s career.
Dubios has won a interim belt, got a title shot with Usyk, has a bounce back and chance to win the IBF belt if vacated. And he’s gotten 2 Saudi paydays.
Meanwhile, Joe Joyce got put in with Takam and then a bogeyman to the top guys in Zhang, in back to back devastating knockouts. Couldve pushed for Joe to get his title shot before he lost, but now he’s stuck fighting a old Chisora in a summer dust up 😂😂
Surprised Joyce hasn’t featured in Saudi yet if I’m not mistaken, the Joe Parker rematch seems like a no brainier given both available and Parker wants it
He purposely sabotaged Joyce by putting him in with the only guy in the division who, due to styles, was guaranteed to smash him up. The great shame is - Joyce is one of the only guys, also due to styles, that had a legit chance against Usyk.
@@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin What are you basing this on cause every time they've fought usyks beaten him easily. Watch the fight in the wsb, Joyce has only gotten slower since
Very valid points !
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergeti tin
I don't see that. Usyk would light joyce up
the saddest ting for a boxer is when they don't know when to hang up their gloves
You missed h in ting
Joe Joyce is absolutely beatable matter of fact I think he’ll get it done
It’ll be fun to watch. Just as much right for them to fight as any other fighter.
Jermaine Franklin vs Jared Anderson. Let’s make it happen.
Chisora is stil a name in British boxing and has enough profile for Joe to use. Needs to put in a top performance.
They should have blacklisted Chisora from fighting years ago. He's already showing obvious sings of brain damage, but fish eyes wants to lecture us about "mental health" when it comes to Fury 😂
I sincerely hope you didn't use the word blacklist in regard to Mr Chisor's skin colour 😂
@AlexM-ui8me Joyce is naturally slow. Always has been.
Great channel this for boxing
Can we comment on the endless nature of Riyadh season 😂😂😂
I literally said the same thing when I heard the announcement. “WHY”
Big Del continues to give top value!!!
Frank is mad Chisora has been slating Fury post undisputed and figured he'd make a few bucks while Derek gets CTE.
Ade could you please do a few card builder videos for future Saudi Events such as Joshua vs Hrgovic/Dubois, Usyk vs Fury 2 and Beterbiev vs Bivol
“I care about his health. I don’t like it, but yes I’ll watch it”
Surely that’s at the root of the problem. He’s able to continue to fight and risk his health because people en masse, can see he’s getting old and taking damage but continue to watch him
There for the fight on Saturday buzzing for it
If "WHY" is a question, Ade, then the answer is because people want to see these popular veterans fight in London.
I think fury could do with Ben Davidson now, trying to look for the knockout against usyk has been proven it’s a long reach, the guys got a chin and doesn’t know how to loose
I thought it was a joke. Oh, it is 😂. I really like Derek, wish he would stick to interviewing though. He was the only one who said something to the Ref after the Usyk fight Saturday lol
The fight for the cte championship belt
💯
I am SO SO WORRIED about Del Boy...he doesn't block punches...he uses his head to block punches
Chisora is basically Apollo Creed in Rocky 4 now. Talking to Balboa about how warriors need to fight instead of retiring.
Hopefully he doesn't face a similar end.
Didn't he die in 3?
BIG TRUCK V USYK
Seems strange why Joyce is not getting a chance on the Saudi cards.
Cause he’s dreadful
Brick Top has been punishing him for beating Dubois. Thats why he was put in with Zhang - the one fighter in the division who might as well have been designed in a Chinese factory specifically to destroy Joyce.
One of the banes of my life is listening to people constantly tell every fighter to retire, while in the same breath lambasting them for not having 150 fights like the old timers. And Chisora in particular - people have been chanting for him to retire since at least Whyte 2, after which he went on to put in half a decade of good wins and performances while getting paid and enjoying himself. Now though...finally....I think it may indeed be time. Unless he wins lol, then I won't know what to think.
i swear rhiyad season been every day of the year lol
If Fury or Usyk hints at retirement Turki just gonna increase the purse to stay lol. The rematch is gonna happen. It was a great fight, the money's huge and there's no garuntees either man would do as good against another top heavyweight at this moment in time.
AJ could go straight through Fury for all we know and Usyk's staring 38 years old in the face which doesn't suit his insane cardio high volume pressing style so... do the rematch, get an extra 70-100 mil EACH, then sail off into the sunset.
Yup. I still hope for fury v aj though.
I'm convinced usyk wins no matter what
@ade I agree never seen so much support for a fuckn cheater smh 🤦🏾♂️
Blows my mind still that His Excellency is going to end up spending $1bn+ on Boxing just for the sake of it when it’s all said and done. Insane matchmaker but thanks 😂
Ryan Garcia has learned how Not to deal with a doping charge...i.e. how Conor Benn reacted after it all
Didn't Cacache hit Cordina twice after the ref broke up the fight? It seemed to all go downhill since that
lost 4 of last 6 and one of those was supposed to be a layup against Gerald Washington whom he struggled with. I thought he was about done over a decade ago when Klitchko beat him to a pulp.
Chisora is just after that last paycheck, and it looks like it'll cost him big time
After the Parker rematch i saw chisoraa punch resistance was gone so wanted him to retire then. If chisora is going to fight I want him to fight someone who can't punch
if Wilder smashes Zhang it absolutely a stadium fight for aj in my opinion, especailly considering the history wilder has with fury
I'd love to see wilder aj
Lol. “why”. Exactly what we are all thinking.
Warren should have his licence taken off him for putting on Joyce v chisora 😮
So you want the same commission who owns the license of the fighters in the UK and signs off the safety for each fighter to participate, to then punish warren by taking his license that they control when it's their choice in the first place to approve it? I think you are trying to consider Chisoras safety but try pointing the finger in the right place because promoters aren't going to something out of the goodness of their heart if the licensing body tells them to proceed....
Because it’ll be a great fight 2 brits slugging it out I’m looking forward to this one
Most random and not wanted fight in 2024 ill still watch tho
Ryans B sample came back as positive for ostarine
I had the fight as a draw or Fury edging it by a round 🤷♂️ he was bossing Usyk round 2 till 7 and gave him 11 and 12. I don't begrudge Usyk getting the win though.
I was similar , had it a draw.
But I rewatched it with sound off.
8-4 usyk for me
@@mikeadams7904 yeah not had a rewatch yet
Let him fight. He’s a big boy. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. Fans come first over fighters.
Mad to think Ade is older than Delboy 😅
So it wasn't just me thinking this then?!
franklin vs maghmoudov ? or efe ajagba ? Delboy i hope he gets unscaved out of the joyce fight .
No Usyk is suspended, so it can't be stripped off him the belt. Then he has asked for an exception.
people slag billy nelson and bakolie off but i believe hes been avoided by some fighters joe joyce included
Ade, start a podcast with Derek! He needs another purpose.
shud be joe joyce vs dililan whyte not chisora
Only way to get Chisora to retire now is for his next fight to do bad numbers.
Tyson needs to get rid of that Sugar. He could hardly hear what John was trying to shout at him in the corner.
Well, why not? I don’t think it’s a particularly bad match up tbh. Seen much worse, both at back end of their career, should be a decent fight. I don’t see the problem.
I think fury will pull out over an injury again to age usyk out
It is not "a lot can happen", instead "a lot is going to happen". Now it is the turn of Usyk to play games to delay the match.
Good fight Del boy will win this joyce is done no doubt
The fake concern is nauseating, both are medically cleared to fight and it's obviously going to be a great fight for as long as it lasts due to the styles
Anyone not concerned about Chisora is nauseating...And worse , we know this is not his last fight. Not even close.
Chisora is a grown man..if he wants to fight then im sure he will take responsibility for the future consequences..why is everyone so "oh he shdnt fight" they all will watch it anyway.if Derek isnt concerned why shd we be? Im sure him n his medical advisors know his state.if its ok for them its ok for me..whatever happens in the future
The answer is always money.
Fury didnt get rid of Ben after wilder 1 it was after the Wallin when he nearly got beat
Dont like it but still will watch? That's a big part of the problem.
Just over a year ago legend has it Joyce was the no3 heavyweight
Exactly I never understood that. I'm not hating on Joyce but his never beaten anyone top 5
Google the words "punch drunk" and a picture of Derek chisora will appear m
Ridiculous, it should be Hrgovic v Joshua for the IBF title as that’s the 1 & 2 in the rankings, Dubois was 8th
If Joyce has ducked Zhang he'd probably have ploughed through a few easier fights and be fighting for the IBF by now. Joe has nothing to gain from winning this fight.
Keep busy fight
Joyce needs to be trying to fight Kabayel or Parker in Saudi not wasting time with Chisora
Joyce should be fighting whyte or Bakole. He needs a big win to move back into the mix. Chisora does not do his CV anything.
Defy anyone to turn down 75 million? Wilder turned down 100 million for undisputed even when his biggest payday was only few million
If fury has any sense he won’t let his dad ever attend any of his fights again , fury can win if he concentrates listens to sugar hill and stops clowning
Flabs cant maintain the mental intensity till oct...he will get bored n lose interest
It looks like the rabbit 🐇 made them run 😂
Back in the good ol days veterans used too fight eachother. It wasn’t uncommon for fighter that had had long days fight and careers too carry on till they wanted too stop, Chisora is a throw back in that regard
Those zhang fights may have taken enough out of Joyce for this to be genuinely competitive
Both of them are headed for brain damage
yep.. car crash of a fight.
I thought u was like 28 ade 😅
AJ needs a better gas tank and a desire to go for it from the start.
Wilder is no longer a draw.
Joyce vs Franklin should have been the fight
It's an old fashioned slugfest to give fans a decent scrap to watch while Joyce continues a rebuild.
The fight no one asked for....
Why not?
Frank Warren squeezing as much money as he can out of promoting Joyce .crap fight
Joyce's punch resistance is probably not amazing anymore after Zhang destroyed him and Cash Ali was landing big overhand rights on Joe for free as will Chisora since Joe is utterly useless God love him. So Chisora has a chance Imho. Maybe not a great chance but he's a unit and how many Chisora bombs can Joe eat without buckling?
I worry for Derek's last handful of brain cells...
Older than Chisora???!!!
I think Dereck is almost 50.
I can assure Derek is older than u lol
Well he is a gate keeper and like Takam can cause problems but just someone to test up and coming....... another pay day...
Probably a good outing for Joyce. TERRIBLE for Chisora’s long term health. Which to be fair is probably beyond salvation.
The fight makes no sense chissy and Joyce , 2 has beans who should retire , can’t see many wanting that fight
Funny how garcia starts exposing Disney and the nefarious antics in elite circles , then all of a sudden he fails a test. Twice. I suggest people use logic here. His last test before the fight was all clear.
Fury will fight a taxi driver. Usyk will retire. Fury will then call Usyk a dosser that ducked him. 🙄
Moneys is why
why? because Joe Joyce needs a win
Joyce vs Chisora "The battle for the last brain cells " !!!
Usyk looking to drop down to cruiserweight🤔 hopefully its after the rematch with fury, and usyk been stripped of the ibf it will got to Daniel Dubois vs hrgoivc and Anthony Joshua will fight the winner more than likely 💯❤️🥊
I’ve read this but there really isn’t much of a challenge at Cruiserweight for Usyk…
@@stephengoulding1595 you said it mate,but thats the hole point , so he can win win win with out any boxer giving him problems , i e wellcome to The politics of boxing
Ade, haven’t seen your last few videos so maybe I missed it but have you changed your camera angle? As for Joyce Chisora, couldn’t care less. Won’t be watching.
Dont get why the gov bodies want to pull their belts, surely you want to thampion to hold it.
Chisora has a beautiful wife and children.. why is he doing this? He obviously can't make coherent decisions.. he needs saving from himself
Their Hmrc tax bill is why lol
Chisora wife will leave him if he goes broke.
You seem to know a lot about his personal life?
@@stephengoulding1595 you lack the ability to observe what's obvious.
maxi hughes is retired