O wow!!! I have not heard of Ultimate Heavy Drums, holy crap they sound so freaking good man! This is what we’ve all needed and didn’t even know it until this video. The flexibility just set new precedent for me and they sound absolutely phenomenal!! DuFFuL, thank you, really!
@@douggroulx1525 get into it man!! Easily the best new plugin in the market! Josh Middleton really hit the mark on this one!!! Thanks for watching as always man! Really appreciate it!
@@DuFFuL His demos are more harsh/digital sounding to me, yours is more organic, 1990-s school of sound - which I like and prefer. Though I would probably still add more "analogue" glue processing to the mix and "human" imperfections/de-quantization to the drum grooves. It's my personal taste, of course.
@@greymatter800 I think what makes his sound so digital is the fact that he uses midi bass. I hate midi bass. It sounds so mechanical and unhuman. I play an actual bass. Have a listen and you can tell straight away.
I really like this channel. Please make that bass video. An indepth one would be awesome. Also your a wicked good guitar player. Who writes great rifts. Keep up the good work
@@coinsforthereaper6990 wow thank you very much. I’m planning the next video on the bass plugins I use. Showing off my recording chain and how I get my tone. Thank you very much for watching and the kind words
@@michaelrichardson8343 I still think Gojira is amazing as well as the avengers sevenfold one I bought as well. I’m doing an album for myself using those two kits. Sounds great. Thanks for watching!!
@@rynoriffs6505 you and everyone else hahaha. We are all going to sound the same soon hahahaha! In all seriousness though, it’s well worth it mate!! You regret buying this one!!
Oh man I almost regret clicking on this video... I swore to myself not to buy another plugin and now I am seriously tempted 😅 Awesome Demo Track - i especially love that driving part at 4:08 🤘 Oh and congratulations on 1000 subscribers my friend 🙂
@@Luke_Lumberjack_Music hahaha I told myself the same thing after I spent $300 on drum programs from Mixwave!! The he goes and releases this thing. Although I am glad I spent the money. It is soooooo damn good. I mixed another song last night using and wow does it hit hard!! Thank you. I do really like that song. It’s a bit of an older song I wrote a number of years ago that was just sitting on my hard drive so I thought I’d use and it sounded great with this plugin!! I can’t believe I made it to 1000 subs. Thanks to all you guys for sure!! It means so much!!
@@DuFFuL yeah i bought it too and you were absolutely right... These drums sound fantastic 🤘 The only thing that I miss is my huge Midi library from EZDrummer
@@Luke_Lumberjack_Music You can still use them. Just load Up an instance of EZdrummer in your daw and then drag the midi onto the track that has this plugin on it. You can use ezdrummer to choose the samples.
@@DuFFuL true! I figured i Just need to do a little bit of remapping since some triggers aren't assigned the way they are in EZDrummer but with a Bit of preparation it actually works fine 👌
@@mldscott23 slight little bit of eq and compression. Boosted eq around where the kick and snare hit just to give them a bit more bottom end and then a slight compression using an IK multimedia plugin. Nothing to much. Only slight. I’m going to another video on it all in a couple of weeks as follow up video.
Do you mean how I master the track? If so, I simply use Ozone 5 from Izotope. I have never seen the need to upgrade to any of the latest versions and I can't stand all the A.I implementation in their new stuff. I like to be able to control all the parameters myself. If you meant the master bus in my mix, I just use some EQ, compression and exciter through Neutron 3, again from Izotope. I also put some tape saturation on in the way of IK multimedia Tape 440 plugin. Nothing too fancy!!
I have just bought the Krimh drums :D How do they compare, may I ask? From your demo I'd say both sound very good, I just like the interface in Krimh a bit more (it's more compact) :)
I would say I prefer this one. It has way more control over the whole kit. Krihm still sounds amazing though and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either of them!!!
me again! lol (it's not stalking if it's on youtube.) My first thought when I heard them the other day was wtf they sound perfect. The kicks and snares are spot on for what I have been looking for. buying it today and done, I've got what I have been looking for. obviously not for you... there's a £200 drum library ready to come out somewhere with your name on it lol.
I've only ever owned GGD Invasion so far and have loved it overall, but I've never figured out how to route the different kit parts in reaper to be able to mix, pan etc individually because there is no comprehensive guide on it online. Do you own Invasion and how would you say they compare? I'm fairly sure I won't be disappointed as I know Josh is a perfectionist in everything he works on but would love to hear your thoughts!
@@monkeyaskswhy I unfortunately dont own any of the GGD plugins but I’m hoping to grab a couple in the upcoming November sales. I’ve always wanted invasion and architects! Hopefully they have good sales.
@@DuFFuL gotcha. Would definitely recommend Invasion, it's got a good variety of different sounds and is fairly customisable. Definitely worth the money
@@monkeyaskswhy cool thanks man! I’m looking forward to trying it. Try to look up videos on how to multi out through kontact. I’m sure it would be the same for most of the kontact libraries.
Fell like I had been watching every single video for this library. Do you feel this library can be used for a final mix Oris more geared towards writing & demoing?
Honestly, I think it could be easily used for a final mix. I don't think 99.9% of the population can tell what a real drum kit is and what is a plugin. Especially being that these are just real drum kits played back as midi. If you went to a studio and recorded these kits yourself, what would be different in the sound?
@@DuFFuL what would certainly be different is for mine to sound like rubbish 🤣🤣 cool, thanks mate. I guess the only reason I am questioning this is because I am so used for drums in a final mix to be routed out into countless channels and the processing being adjusted to the rest of the mix... But then again, now that I think about it, I always start with drums first and mix them to my liking and make the rest work around the drums. So yeah, I might just have to get used to only working with a finished stereo drum track
@@valentinzwick5408 I always find a kit I like and then balance the rest to that. The thing is that realistically these drum are already processed for you. You do have some control over them with regard to a little eq and transient shape and such and if a snare isn’t sitting great you can always change it or even change the tuning of the snare. The question I always ask myself is this. Being that I could multi put drums and process them all myself, could I make them sound as good as these do given that these were processed by someone who probably has way more experience working with drums then I do?
@@DuFFuL true that. Probably just an example of having a little less control, when having all the control eats up a ton of time to work on a good drum mix. Committing probably is key here - that's how I like my drums to sound (and boy they do sound how I like them), commit to that sound with only being able to do a few notches and make the overall mix work.
@@PistolsPlayground hahahaha diarrhoea Milkshake? That’s fantastic!! This is so worth every cent!! You won’t regreat the purchase at all!!! Thanks for watching!! I really appreciate it!!
@@D20band I can’t say whether it’s a mega bell ride but the bell on the ride sounds huge. Actually it has two rides and the both have really solid loud bell sounds. Unfortunately I don’t know exactly what the rides are. They just say left ride and right ride.
@@D20band I have Gojira and avenged seven fold from mixwave and full honestly, these are way better. I have at least 10 different drum plugins from various companies and these are the easiest ones I’ve ever used to get to sit in a mix. Minimal tweaking at all. If I ever had to recommend any drum plugin to anyone into metal or rock, this would be it. Without hesitation.
@@DuFFuL oh ok. cool sorry I stopped when you were showing some of the things in the drum program I saw on another vid. very nice sick tones for plugins for sure. thanks man for the reply.
@@franzeek they are pre mixed. I know you can download the raw samples but I didn’t bother. I don’t like to spend time processing my drums. I just want them to sound good straight away so I can concentrate on writing.
@@DuFFuL..oh sorry dude..i was watching another guys vid and he was showing it and he never played the guitar parts..some how i went to next vid and commented on your video.. which you obviously showed with the guitarparts..sorry..wrong guy... your song was slammin🤘🤨..good lesson on programming drums
@@vincentemerald2574 couldn’t agree more!! These cymbals sound fantastic. Best part is that they sit in the mix so well. Not harsh at all like many other plugins. Thanks as always man
I wouldn't really go that far. This is a very solid and well-made plugin but there are still some great alternatives out there. For me this is amazing. Especially for metal but, to some people it might not suit what they need it for. I still love Steven Slate drums, EZdrummer, Perfect Drums and the Mixwave stuff is fantastic. They all have a place.
@@yuripartitski7284 I would say there is. Most other drum plugins don’t give you as much control over the sound of the kit as this and in my opinion these are the best sounding drums for metal out there.
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Thanks! Really glad you like it!
@@JoshMiddletonOfficial wow thanks for watching mate!! It really is a fantastic plugin!! Amazing job!!! Everything I need for drums.
Thank you!!
Did u sub him @JoshMiddletonOfficial ?
What reaper theme is that? Its pretty sick looking!@DuFFuL
@@jerryfick8547 hey mate. It’s called LCS_Reaction_Dark.
That’s what it says in the theme picker anyway lol.
@@DuFFuL nice man. I'll have to check that out. Thanks brother
Great playing and great tone!!! Excellent!!! Cheers from Brazil.
@@ChrisCCastro thank you. Very glad you enjoyed it!
O wow!!! I have not heard of Ultimate Heavy Drums, holy crap they sound so freaking good man! This is what we’ve all needed and didn’t even know it until this video. The flexibility just set new precedent for me and they sound absolutely phenomenal!! DuFFuL, thank you, really!
@@douggroulx1525 get into it man!! Easily the best new plugin in the market! Josh Middleton really hit the mark on this one!!!
Thanks for watching as always man! Really appreciate it!
Thanks for showing all the presets.
@@DarkStoneCastle no problem. Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻
The demo track seriously rocks! Top-notch riffs.
Thanks man. You having a binge catchup huh?
@@DuFFuL Sort of :) Funny though, I find your demos of the Ultimate Heavy Drums sounding better than those by Josh Middleton.
@@greymatter800 hahaha Dont know if I would go that far. His stuff sounds amazing but thank you for the compliment!!!
@@DuFFuL His demos are more harsh/digital sounding to me, yours is more organic, 1990-s school of sound - which I like and prefer. Though I would probably still add more "analogue" glue processing to the mix and "human" imperfections/de-quantization to the drum grooves. It's my personal taste, of course.
@@greymatter800 I think what makes his sound so digital is the fact that he uses midi bass. I hate midi bass. It sounds so mechanical and unhuman. I play an actual bass.
Have a listen and you can tell straight away.
I really like this channel. Please make that bass video. An indepth one would be awesome. Also your a wicked good guitar player. Who writes great rifts. Keep up the good work
@@coinsforthereaper6990 wow thank you very much. I’m planning the next video on the bass plugins I use. Showing off my recording chain and how I get my tone. Thank you very much for watching and the kind words
Awesome job of showing this. I am like you with the Gojira kit from Mixwave and now this thing hits and I am loving the sounds. Thanks again for this!
@@michaelrichardson8343 I still think Gojira is amazing as well as the avengers sevenfold one I bought as well. I’m doing an album for myself using those two kits. Sounds great.
Thanks for watching!!
in your demo above, are you using the slate trigger files as well, or is what you demoed how it sounds without them?
No trigger files mate. This is how it sounds straight out of the box. Well, not a box really hahaha. It literally sound perfect from the get-go.
sounds massive, definitely getting this one! 🤘
@@rynoriffs6505 you and everyone else hahaha. We are all going to sound the same soon hahahaha!
In all seriousness though, it’s well worth it mate!! You regret buying this one!!
@@DuFFuL Yeah that's the problem hey bro, love the content keep it coming my Aussie brother.
@@rynoriffs6505 Well I guess then it comes down to creativity. Riff Competition LETS GO hahahahahahaha
@@DuFFuL im in!
@DuFFuL Update , Fotis benardo drums will be getting some very cool Edrum features in the next revision, really nice people and support.
@@Plastidon I’m going to check it out for sure. I was watching some great reviews on it the other day. Looks amazing!!!
Oh man I almost regret clicking on this video... I swore to myself not to buy another plugin and now I am seriously tempted 😅
Awesome Demo Track - i especially love that driving part at 4:08 🤘
Oh and congratulations on 1000 subscribers my friend 🙂
@@Luke_Lumberjack_Music hahaha I told myself the same thing after I spent $300 on drum programs from Mixwave!! The he goes and releases this thing. Although I am glad I spent the money. It is soooooo damn good. I mixed another song last night using and wow does it hit hard!!
Thank you. I do really like that song. It’s a bit of an older song I wrote a number of years ago that was just sitting on my hard drive so I thought I’d use and it sounded great with this plugin!!
I can’t believe I made it to 1000 subs. Thanks to all you guys for sure!! It means so much!!
@@DuFFuL yeah i bought it too and you were absolutely right... These drums sound fantastic 🤘
The only thing that I miss is my huge Midi library from EZDrummer
@@Luke_Lumberjack_Music You can still use them. Just load Up an instance of EZdrummer in your daw and then drag the midi onto the track that has this plugin on it. You can use ezdrummer to choose the samples.
@@DuFFuL true! I figured i Just need to do a little bit of remapping since some triggers aren't assigned the way they are in EZDrummer but with a Bit of preparation it actually works fine 👌
@@Luke_Lumberjack_Music it actually has a ezdrummer mapping option.
I knew you will do it.Thank you.
@@tomix1970pl1 hahaha it’s to metal for me to not do it my friend!!
Sounds amazing! Did you do any post processing? If so, what? It sounds better and brighter than it does Insode my daw
@@mldscott23 slight little bit of eq and compression. Boosted eq around where the kick and snare hit just to give them a bit more bottom end and then a slight compression using an IK multimedia plugin. Nothing to much. Only slight. I’m going to another video on it all in a couple of weeks as follow up video.
Hey there, sounds great! Do you mind being asked about what you have on your master chain? Very close to pulling the trigger on this kit.
Do you mean how I master the track?
If so, I simply use Ozone 5 from Izotope. I have never seen the need to upgrade to any of the latest versions and I can't stand all the A.I implementation in their new stuff. I like to be able to control all the parameters myself.
If you meant the master bus in my mix,
I just use some EQ, compression and exciter through Neutron 3, again from Izotope. I also put some tape saturation on in the way of IK multimedia Tape 440 plugin.
Nothing too fancy!!
@@DuFFuLgreat question I was always curious about that myself, Good to know. Thank you.
I have just bought the Krimh drums :D How do they compare, may I ask? From your demo I'd say both sound very good, I just like the interface in Krimh a bit more (it's more compact) :)
I would say I prefer this one. It has way more control over the whole kit. Krihm still sounds amazing though and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either of them!!!
@@DuFFuL Thank you ;)
@@LandsOfDespair Anytime!!!
Krimh sounds very much like the new Arch Enemy sound. But it's a bit too flat / dull / far away for me. I like clear and in your face like this sounds
@@elguitarTom I agree. I like bright snappy drums. Krihm sounds great but it doesn’t suit my style.
Amazing as always.
@@juancarlosbernabeaviles thank you very much!!
me again! lol (it's not stalking if it's on youtube.) My first thought when I heard them the other day was wtf they sound perfect. The kicks and snares are spot on for what I have been looking for. buying it today and done, I've got what I have been looking for. obviously not for you... there's a £200 drum library ready to come out somewhere with your name on it lol.
@@adamdavis307 no I’m pretty damn happy with these. I think these could be the last drums I ever buy……..
Maybe!🤔
I've only ever owned GGD Invasion so far and have loved it overall, but I've never figured out how to route the different kit parts in reaper to be able to mix, pan etc individually because there is no comprehensive guide on it online. Do you own Invasion and how would you say they compare?
I'm fairly sure I won't be disappointed as I know Josh is a perfectionist in everything he works on but would love to hear your thoughts!
@@monkeyaskswhy I unfortunately dont own any of the GGD plugins but I’m hoping to grab a couple in the upcoming November sales. I’ve always wanted invasion and architects! Hopefully they have good sales.
@@DuFFuL gotcha. Would definitely recommend Invasion, it's got a good variety of different sounds and is fairly customisable. Definitely worth the money
@@monkeyaskswhy cool thanks man! I’m looking forward to trying it.
Try to look up videos on how to multi out through kontact. I’m sure it would be the same for most of the kontact libraries.
@@DuFFuL alright will do :)
Fell like I had been watching every single video for this library. Do you feel this library can be used for a final mix Oris more geared towards writing & demoing?
Honestly, I think it could be easily used for a final mix. I don't think 99.9% of the population can tell what a real drum kit is and what is a plugin. Especially being that these are just real drum kits played back as midi.
If you went to a studio and recorded these kits yourself, what would be different in the sound?
@@DuFFuL what would certainly be different is for mine to sound like rubbish 🤣🤣 cool, thanks mate. I guess the only reason I am questioning this is because I am so used for drums in a final mix to be routed out into countless channels and the processing being adjusted to the rest of the mix... But then again, now that I think about it, I always start with drums first and mix them to my liking and make the rest work around the drums. So yeah, I might just have to get used to only working with a finished stereo drum track
@@valentinzwick5408 I always find a kit I like and then balance the rest to that. The thing is that realistically these drum are already processed for you. You do have some control over them with regard to a little eq and transient shape and such and if a snare isn’t sitting great you can always change it or even change the tuning of the snare.
The question I always ask myself is this. Being that I could multi put drums and process them all myself, could I make them sound as good as these do given that these were processed by someone who probably has way more experience working with drums then I do?
@@DuFFuL true that. Probably just an example of having a little less control, when having all the control eats up a ton of time to work on a good drum mix. Committing probably is key here - that's how I like my drums to sound (and boy they do sound how I like them), commit to that sound with only being able to do a few notches and make the overall mix work.
First review I've seen on this, and it sounds sicker than a diarrhea milkshake.
I'm definitely picking this up, thanks for a solid honest review.
@@PistolsPlayground hahahaha diarrhoea Milkshake? That’s fantastic!!
This is so worth every cent!! You won’t regreat the purchase at all!!! Thanks for watching!! I really appreciate it!!
Wow 🎉. You’re no slouch yourself! When is Duffal Drums coming out?
Hahaha nah Ill leave all that to someone else. Besides, how would I ever compete with the master Josh Middleton. These drums are near perfect.
awesome
@@centroproiv5614 thank you!
Can I use my edrum (Roland Td30) to play the midi notes?
Josh Middleton said E-Kit support is coming next week.
Does these cymbals have "choke" option?
They certainly do!!
How do they compare to Superior Drummer 3 for real?
@@adownbeatexegete1549 I don’t actually own superior so I can’t really make a direct comparison.
Does this sample library include a mega Bell ride by chance?
@@D20band I can’t say whether it’s a mega bell ride but the bell on the ride sounds huge. Actually it has two rides and the both have really solid loud bell sounds. Unfortunately I don’t know exactly what the rides are. They just say left ride and right ride.
@@DuFFuL many thanks for the reply!!! I may have to just pick these up! They sound great!!!
@@D20band you won’t regret it!!
How do you feel they stack up to Mixwave? They are my go to but these sound really nice too! Do these need a lot of processing ?
@@D20band I have Gojira and avenged seven fold from mixwave and full honestly, these are way better. I have at least 10 different drum plugins from various companies and these are the easiest ones I’ve ever used to get to sit in a mix. Minimal tweaking at all. If I ever had to recommend any drum plugin to anyone into metal or rock, this would be it. Without hesitation.
what did you use to get that tasty guitar sound
@@krissmith2396 I show it towards the end. I used Neural DSP Soldano X, Gojira X and Fortin Nameless X. Love all those plugins!
@@DuFFuL oh ok. cool sorry I stopped when you were showing some of the things in the drum program I saw on another vid. very nice sick tones for plugins for sure. thanks man for the reply.
@@krissmith2396 anytime man.
are they premixed or do you get raw versions?
@@franzeek they are pre mixed. I know you can download the raw samples but I didn’t bother. I don’t like to spend time processing my drums. I just want them to sound good straight away so I can concentrate on writing.
why in the hell did we not hear it with the guitars🤨
What do you mean?
@@DuFFuL..oh sorry dude..i was watching another guys vid and he was showing it and he never played the guitar parts..some how i went to next vid and commented on your video.. which you obviously showed with the guitarparts..sorry..wrong guy... your song was slammin🤘🤨..good lesson on programming drums
@@archkarr18 hahaha all good man!! Thanks for watching!
Nice sounds killer man!! The cymbals sound awesome that's what usually sounds the most fake imo
@@vincentemerald2574 couldn’t agree more!! These cymbals sound fantastic. Best part is that they sit in the mix so well. Not harsh at all like many other plugins.
Thanks as always man
215 dollars U.S. ?
@@dougb3854 hahaha no!! That’s Australian! Probably around $145 US.
Not even funny how far behind every other kit is
fr it's a joke when you compare anything else to it
I wouldn't really go that far. This is a very solid and well-made plugin but there are still some great alternatives out there. For me this is amazing. Especially for metal but, to some people it might not suit what they need it for.
I still love Steven Slate drums, EZdrummer, Perfect Drums and the Mixwave stuff is fantastic. They all have a place.
So there is nothing new comparing to other drums.
@@yuripartitski7284 I would say there is. Most other drum plugins don’t give you as much control over the sound of the kit as this and in my opinion these are the best sounding drums for metal out there.
personally, i think that there isn't a better sounding out of the box mix out there
@@prodbyscythe I couldn’t agree more.