Here in Commifornia fire is not only about fuel load reduction, the entire ecosystem is dependent on it in numerous ways. Many native tree species can't exist without fire including our beloved Giant Sequoias, controls invasive plants and disease, on and on.
@@simonharris4873 lack of controlled back burning of weeds and dry fallen leaves and branches dead dry plants.we need lots of small controlled burns over time not one huge fire all in one go.
I can tell you, my friends and myself have recently been riding our motorcycles on gravel roads and fire trails and tracks in the forests and NPs not far from the central coast and Mudgee (to name a few). I can tell you, we have noticed a lot of leaves and small tree branches and related plant matter all over the trails. Also, the level of overgrown trees across the trails just makes for any intended fire break to be ineffective. It is just fuel for any fire that goes through there. Of course, we haven't been able to ride of gravel roads and tracks (like we could in yester years) because the authorities have closed them off to motorcycles and/or motorised vehicles - so we can only imagine how much these tracks are also overgrown. Don't blame climate change - blame those who make decisions to block public accesses (other than bush walkers and cyclists) to fire trails thereby the trails becoming overgrown with plant matter and not allowing back-burning and land owners from removing trees close to their homes.
The central command strategy was the issue in the SA Black tues fires 2005, It was under control when the Canberra crews showed up, The locals were all ready and positioned for the wind shift then told to stand down. Only a few crews broke ranks and stayed, then the wind changed and guess who was in the right place to stop it but critically understaffed due to stand down orders from brigades from another freakin state? 2 fire fighters were lost as well as the citizens, then the hearings and inquests lasted over a decade, resulting in suicides and the loss of most of the best and longest serving volunteers. 20 bloody years later, we are no better prepared, there is even more fuel and less paid or trained volunteer members at the ready. It is no longer a matter of "IF" or "how bad will it be?" It is WHEN and it will be WORSE...
Andrew, I spent 27 yrs in my state fire service. I've been on task forces relating to bushfires. My local council which I won't name yet is going down the same path. The same thing will happen in NSW. When? great question, I'll say this. Every day if they don't change their mind the chances of this sort of fire will dramatically increase. I have a large water tank attached with firefighting hose and branch and I'm in a local coastal council only a km from the beach.
we had a few in my local area last year.a big effort across the country needs major attention the sooner the better.seeing news like this means its being looked now but we need to take action b4 its to late.
In NSW Matt Keans sacked most of the parks and wildlife staff that had the knowledge and skill to carry out hazard reduction which was done on a rotating grid pattern over a number years so the whole landscape wasnt bunt even with hazard reduction. Firetrails were an important part of this technique, which are almost all gone now in the name of the environment. The latest NSW environment minister has no idea she has no idea. It is an utter disaster for the bush and people that live near it
Biggest problem with Hazard reduction burns is that the few they do are done coming into summer. Where they should be done going into winter this giving the fire time to go out completely. If they did that though they would be able to blame global warming
Yeah, cause the huge increase in fuel load over the last few decades just happened all by itself, right? It's not like there was an underlying cause, like increase average temperatures. Seriously, who believes this trifle?
The window of opportunity for getting permission for burn offs is stifled by lefty Greenie Environmental looneys . My Brother in law was a Rural firefighter and that is what he told me .
I remember in one case they asked to fill there fire truck up out of a swimming pool the owner refused so the dropped a 3 in pump in his pool and pumped it dry while his daughters were in it thire was only 500 metres down the road
Would be good to hear Roger Underwood on this as well. He's ex Forestry from WA. Writes for Quadrant, and others on forest/bush fire matters. NSW RFS: the RFS used to be a real community movement; its become a woke authoritarian bureaucracy. Lots of bling with big computer screens and aerial firefighting, but little community ethos anymore.
@GrooberNedJardine non comprende mi amigo el Vincio es mexicano. only joking Vince is 100 per cent Australian. Maybe we've been using the wrong breed of dingo
They were not immune to desire, lust or greed. They fought over land, killed and raped, just like other homo sapiens. There is no place for racial division in our parliament or constitution. The belief that a certain group of people are better or more entitled than others, based on skin colour, culture, history...is the basis of a dangerous type of racism.
No we don't . My Brother in law was a Rural firefighter and getting permission from the Greenie EnvironMental lefties is reducing the window of opportunity to burn off .
Logging was stopped. Grazing was stopped. Bushland turned into national parks... that's why, nothing to do with the small 0.4 K cyclical increase in average temperature.
Honestly, I wish I could find somewhere/anywhere in NSW that wasn't prone to fires, floods and droughts. I was going to buy land in Trundle last week, but 2 years ago it was part of an inland sea and was cut off for a month.. I was thinking about Broken Hill, but last time I was there, Menindee lakes were dry as a bone and parents washing kids with bottled water at $6 a pop... Thought about Lighting Ridge, but all those Western Land Leases expire this year... Will probably head up to Hill End or Carcoar.. Hard to find that perfect spot without trees or scrub, and with a close by water source, but elevated enough that you won't need a boat if it rains for more than 3 days consecutively...
Andrew Bolt Your Lucky I am Not the Leader of the Liberal Party or National Party. If I was, You would be Receiving a Phone Call. The Libs and Nats care about Australia, Correct ?.
No, ignore the futile prognostications and pointless political posturing. Whatever Australia might do or not do will have no effect on global climate. Mr Sun is in control there. Respond to the evidence in the field: enormous fuel loads, lack of Asset Protection Zones around dwellings and out-buildings. People going bush, but forget that the bush burns. Town Planning that forgets to design in fire barriers and design access routes, escape routes and refuge zones. They seem to think we are all in the Cotswalds in spring, and not in Australia in summer.
Global Climate Lysenkoism...IPCC? What a joke! Consensus science instead of empirical science? The biggest driver of anthropogenic climate change is the UN, propaganda is a beautiful thing for those that have an agenda.
@@Tony-lp2nk "so what climate studies have you done? I’m intrigued to know." I've studied how the climate scientists tried to shut down people who disagreed with them. I've studied how they can't say how much Australia's efforts will lower the temperature by. I've studied how it's all about socialism. Here's Ottmar Edenhofer (German economist and IPCC official): But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.
The problem is in Queensland as well.. We got burnt out in 2018 & nothing has been learned here in Deepwater. People are gonna die here because of government policies
It’s always about fuel load. The hills around Melbourne are off the chart. I live there. It’s not going to be good when it happens. And it will
What causes such high fuel load?
Here in Commifornia fire is not only about fuel load reduction, the entire ecosystem is dependent on it in numerous ways. Many native tree species can't exist without fire including our beloved Giant Sequoias, controls invasive plants and disease, on and on.
@@simonharris4873 Environmentalists.
@@simonharris4873 lack of controlled back burning of weeds and dry fallen leaves and branches dead dry plants.we need lots of small controlled burns over time not one huge fire all in one go.
@ No to mention the higher temperatures. Why do you think this is happening in the middle of winter. Fuel load is the symptom, not the cause.
You can't do controlled burns the environmentalists won't allow it
I grew up in the New England Tablelands. Dad burnt off every year. We never had a problem with fire and weeds were easier to manage.
I can tell you, my friends and myself have recently been riding our motorcycles on gravel roads and fire trails and tracks in the forests and NPs not far from the central coast and Mudgee (to name a few). I can tell you, we have noticed a lot of leaves and small tree branches and related plant matter all over the trails. Also, the level of overgrown trees across the trails just makes for any intended fire break to be ineffective. It is just fuel for any fire that goes through there. Of course, we haven't been able to ride of gravel roads and tracks (like we could in yester years) because the authorities have closed them off to motorcycles and/or motorised vehicles - so we can only imagine how much these tracks are also overgrown. Don't blame climate change - blame those who make decisions to block public accesses (other than bush walkers and cyclists) to fire trails thereby the trails becoming overgrown with plant matter and not allowing back-burning and land owners from removing trees close to their homes.
Labors Fault
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Most likely we Australians aren’t allowed in these places because they are shut down , so we pay for them but can’t use them,
I live not far from Greendale in Victoria, over 300 homes nestled deep in the wombat state forest, a time bomb.
The central command strategy was the issue in the SA Black tues fires 2005, It was under control when the Canberra crews showed up, The locals were all ready and positioned for the wind shift then told to stand down.
Only a few crews broke ranks and stayed, then the wind changed and guess who was in the right place to stop it but critically understaffed due to stand down orders from brigades from another freakin state?
2 fire fighters were lost as well as the citizens, then the hearings and inquests lasted over a decade, resulting in suicides and the loss of most of the best and longest serving volunteers.
20 bloody years later, we are no better prepared, there is even more fuel and less paid or trained volunteer members at the ready.
It is no longer a matter of "IF" or "how bad will it be?" It is WHEN and it will be WORSE...
I think it is Deliberately done in order for these psychos to scream CLIMATE CHANGE !!!! when will these lefties ever learn .
Andrew, I spent 27 yrs in my state fire service. I've been on task forces relating to bushfires. My local council which I won't name yet is going down the same path. The same thing will happen in NSW. When? great question, I'll say this. Every day if they don't change their mind the chances of this sort of fire will dramatically increase. I have a large water tank attached with firefighting hose and branch and I'm in a local coastal council only a km from the beach.
The season to burn off is increasingly getting shorter and shorter here in southern nsw
SORRY why not ask the australian Koalas from past fire?
Dutton has done his backburning.
we had a few in my local area last year.a big effort across the country needs major attention the sooner the better.seeing news like this means its being looked now but we need to take action b4 its to late.
In NSW Matt Keans sacked most of the parks and wildlife staff that had the knowledge and skill to carry out hazard reduction which was done on a rotating grid pattern over a number years so the whole landscape wasnt bunt even with hazard reduction. Firetrails were an important part of this technique, which are almost all gone now in the name of the environment.
The latest NSW environment minister has no idea she has no idea. It is an utter disaster for the bush and people that live near it
Biggest problem with Hazard reduction burns is that the few they do are done coming into summer. Where they should be done going into winter this giving the fire time to go out completely. If they did that though they would be able to blame global warming
Aboriginal elder's do the back burning there successfull at stopping out of control fires
Yeah, cause the huge increase in fuel load over the last few decades just happened all by itself, right? It's not like there was an underlying cause, like increase average temperatures. Seriously, who believes this trifle?
The window of opportunity for getting permission for burn offs is stifled by lefty Greenie Environmental looneys . My Brother in law was a Rural firefighter and that is what he told me .
@@simonharris4873no one believes the BS you're peddling Simon
But keep on Trolling for a living
@@simonharris4873 A lot of indoctrinated fools are victims of Global Climate Lysenkoism...
I remember in one case they asked to fill there fire truck up out of a swimming pool the owner refused so the dropped a 3 in pump in his pool and pumped it dry while his daughters were in it thire was only 500 metres down the road
I don't trust Karen bass nor gavin newsom
You heard of Jacinta allen?
The majority of people are trustworthy.
But you can't trust the majority of people you know.
- Rogue Element -
No one trusts you -
clear roadsides so when there is a fire it has less chance of jumping the road, and makes it safer if you run off the road there will be less to hit.
let people gather firewood for starters.
We don’t do it cause it doesn’t benefit Albo in anyway.
Would be good to hear Roger Underwood on this as well. He's ex Forestry from WA. Writes for Quadrant, and others on forest/bush fire matters.
NSW RFS: the RFS used to be a real community movement; its become a woke authoritarian bureaucracy. Lots of bling with big computer screens and aerial firefighting, but little community ethos anymore.
Well said bolty, burning a dingo pie is unacceptable, you should know when they're done when the dingo stops yapping
Dingos don't yap they howl , they are not a Dog . Are you an Australian .
@GrooberNedJardine non comprende mi amigo el Vincio es mexicano. only joking Vince is 100 per cent Australian. Maybe we've been using the wrong breed of dingo
@ Maybe !!! Dingo's are related to the Wolf , that's why they Howl instead of Bark .
I fort many bush fires in the Dandenongs back in late 60s and early 70s
If indigenous people had a voice, they might warn us about the risks of being selfish.
They were not immune to desire, lust or greed. They fought over land, killed and raped, just like other homo sapiens. There is no place for racial division in our parliament or constitution.
The belief that a certain group of people are better or more entitled than others, based on skin colour, culture, history...is the basis of a dangerous type of racism.
We now do more of these than we did 50 years ago. I wonder why we now need so many.
No we don't . My Brother in law was a Rural firefighter and getting permission from the Greenie EnvironMental lefties is reducing the window of opportunity to burn off .
Logging was stopped. Grazing was stopped. Bushland turned into national parks... that's why, nothing to do with the small 0.4 K cyclical increase in average temperature.
@ate71622 Logging created fuel load. How do national parks even rate a mention here? Try again.
@ State forests are being taken over for National parks and they are locking them up , closing off FIRE trails and not managing them properly .
Honestly, I wish I could find somewhere/anywhere in NSW that wasn't prone to fires, floods and droughts.
I was going to buy land in Trundle last week, but 2 years ago it was part of an inland sea and was cut off for a month..
I was thinking about Broken Hill, but last time I was there, Menindee lakes were dry as a bone and parents washing kids with bottled water at $6 a pop...
Thought about Lighting Ridge, but all those Western Land Leases expire this year...
Will probably head up to Hill End or Carcoar..
Hard to find that perfect spot without trees or scrub, and with a close by water source, but elevated enough that you won't need a boat if it rains for more than 3 days consecutively...
we are a few years away from the LA scenario
Andrew Bolt Your Lucky I am Not the Leader of the Liberal Party or National Party.
If I was, You would be Receiving a Phone Call.
The Libs and Nats care about Australia, Correct ?.
AI Generated fire warden😊😊
Do your job
Don't worry Andrew, it's been raining in summer since the fires of 2019.
"Hazard" or "Hazzard" reduction targets?
Teleprompter mishap perhaps?
Yes by all means, Bully, ignore Climate Change.
ROFLMAO.
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No, ignore the futile prognostications and pointless political posturing. Whatever Australia might do or not do will have no effect on global climate. Mr Sun is in control there. Respond to the evidence in the field: enormous fuel loads, lack of Asset Protection Zones around dwellings and out-buildings. People going bush, but forget that the bush burns. Town Planning that forgets to design in fire barriers and design access routes, escape routes and refuge zones. They seem to think we are all in the Cotswalds in spring, and not in Australia in summer.
Global Climate Lysenkoism...IPCC? What a joke! Consensus science instead of empirical science? The biggest driver of anthropogenic climate change is the UN, propaganda is a beautiful thing for those that have an agenda.
All by design...we will burn ..
It’s called climate change! You can thank for that explanation!!
OH , good. Glad to know. Now we all know and can join the Bowen clown show.
@ I’m happy I educated you!
Its the excuse for everything but not the core issue , best example Al Gore, how to make a million ! Don't mention that swedish upstart !!
@@richardsoane6192 so what climate studies have you done? I’m intrigued to know.
@@Tony-lp2nk
"so what climate studies have you done? I’m intrigued to know."
I've studied how the climate scientists tried to shut down people who disagreed with them. I've studied how they can't say how much Australia's efforts will lower the temperature by. I've studied how it's all about socialism. Here's Ottmar Edenhofer (German economist and IPCC official):
But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.
The problem is in Queensland as well.. We got burnt out in 2018 & nothing has been learned here in Deepwater. People are gonna die here because of government policies