Another install where the main panel becomes a sub because the ats becomes the means of first disconnect therefore the panel needs to be feed with 4 conductors and grounds and neutrals need to be separated it's the same rule in the states as Canada
@@bobtenwick nice catch are you from or familiar with CSA codes cause I'm not i just now a lot are the same in the NEC and where this is in Canada maybe the ahj doesn't require meter to be earth bonded?
Unless that neut connection at the meter socket is bonded I suppose... but at 56 seconds he's putting covers on with no grounding electrode conductors, no cold water bonds, nothing. I don't see a bonding jumper on that gas line either, but I don't know Canada codes. Does all this grounding take place in the interior panel? If so that gives the neutral current multiple paths back to the utility transformer, and all but one on bare metal. Consider a scenario where the neutral connection between the transfer switch and interior panel becomes compromised for any reason. Where is the neutral current going to go? Into the ground rod, through the jacuzzi or the neighbor's swimming pool, up and onto the generator enclosure and back to where its bonded again in the transfer switch? And did they lift the neutral bond in the generator? Proper system grounding and bonding is THE number one consideration when installing any electrical system, particularly one with two sources. It's somewhat irresponsible to post a "complete installation video" with these oversights.
@@wizard3z868 Not familiar with CSA codes at all, but if the CSA code doesn't require a low impedance path for fault current from metal enclosures I'd be 'shocked".
A transfer switch automatically detects when the power from the grid gets lost, and automatically starts the generator and shuts off the breaker going to the main grid so you don’t backfeed the main power lines with your generator. Think of it as automatically completely disconnecting you from the grid to power your house with a generator. Most building codes now require a transfer switch so that way a generator can’t be run while also backfeeding the power lines (which could put lineman at risk) due to energizing a line that they thought was dead.
Umm nice install but if that control board goes out you have made an easy job harder by not running your neutrals above and back down I install generac in the us and I wish our transfer switches had that much room
You could probably make it affordable if you did it in stages. Electrical one year, gas the second year, generator the third year, otherwise it would be a mortgage.
I notice that the transfer switch comes bonded (Neutral-gnd) as shown by the green wire connecting the box/gnd to N. I am just learning installs and I was told to remove that wire as it is not bonded there but in the main panel that the xfer switch feeds. Any comments?
The ats becomes the 1st means of main disconnect therefore neutrals and grounds are bonded 4 wire should have been run to the panel because it is now a sub. bonding screw needs to be removed and grounds and neutrals separated but because it's an ats ahj in both countries seems to negate these facts
@@jerrysmith4272 ya there are others out there where they use the panel as a raceway for the feeder cables and or also as a junction box for the feeders to the ats than run the ats feeder cables back to the panel thru the same Nipple or conduit raceway I'm like wow inspectors are just letting sht go and none of them use 4 wires from ats to panel
So if I add a automatic transfer switch when I install a generator do I have to put a separate Ground Bar in my main electrical meter and make it a subpanel
Depends on the install. In this case the generator backs up the whole service, so yes, the transfer switch becomes the one and only place where neutral to ground connections take place. That includes grounding electrode connections.
So what is the diagram for the generator on the grounding ,bonding.. do I need to remove the green screw in the 40 space breaker panel as it's the secondary? Also, whatvis the diagram for the wires from the ATS to the generstor
Big J from Illinois illustrates why this video is catastrophically irresponsible. An intelligent, mechanically inclined homeowner could absolutely install their own generator with the proper video. This ain't it. I wouldn't hire these guys to tie my shoes. This is obviously their signature work.
Something you don't see in the advertising, you basically have to have two major services reinstalled, & then you have the generator on top of that. And what a mess having all that hanging off the side of building. Integrating it into a new build would probably be the only way to make it worth while, otherwise the cost has got to be prohibitive.
I thought I saw a Generac ATS option without a main breaker making it just a transfer switch and the service disconnect could remain without making it a subpanel.
Have had for 3 years and once again when the power outage happened the K22 didn't work. Says i need a repair person. Paying 8 Grand for something that is supposed to work occasionally, does not work. My comments have nothing to do with the contractors in this ad. Just lost my husband and can't afford another $400 "service call".
I have this same unit (Generac 22kw) and it is an aluminum enclosure. Color may be different but mine is the exact one shown in this video. I also know someone with a 16kw and the enclosure is identical to the 22kw - aluminum, color, and size.
I watched your video from 2015, and now this video from 2021. In over half a decade you guys have not changed! Still quite unprofessional. Can't even pour a proper concret slab. Can't even put the cables/lives lower to the ground to be less of an eye-sore. Driving the car onto the grass with no protection of the grass. The list can go on and on. The worst is I didn't even mention price, but it should go without saying that you're overpricing for your poor craftsmanship.
WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE HELPFUL WITH NARRATION INSTEAD OF THE MUSIC.
Constant music is annoying. Can't hear what is being said.
Looks like they’re missing a ground wire on the main breaker panel now that’s considered a subpanel?
Yup...good catch! They need a 4 wire feeder to the new sub panel
Another install where the main panel becomes a sub because the ats becomes the means of first disconnect therefore the panel needs to be feed with 4 conductors and grounds and neutrals need to be separated it's the same rule in the states as Canada
You got farther than I did. I failed him 43 seconds in for not bonding the meter enclosure.
@@bobtenwick nice catch are you from or familiar with CSA codes cause I'm not i just now a lot are the same in the NEC and where this is in Canada maybe the ahj doesn't require meter to be earth bonded?
Unless that neut connection at the meter socket is bonded I suppose... but at 56 seconds he's putting covers on with no grounding electrode conductors, no cold water bonds, nothing. I don't see a bonding jumper on that gas line either, but I don't know Canada codes. Does all this grounding take place in the interior panel? If so that gives the neutral current multiple paths back to the utility transformer, and all but one on bare metal. Consider a scenario where the neutral connection between the transfer switch and interior panel becomes compromised for any reason. Where is the neutral current going to go? Into the ground rod, through the jacuzzi or the neighbor's swimming pool, up and onto the generator enclosure and back to where its bonded again in the transfer switch? And did they lift the neutral bond in the generator? Proper system grounding and bonding is THE number one consideration when installing any electrical system, particularly one with two sources. It's somewhat irresponsible to post a "complete installation video" with these oversights.
@@wizard3z868 Not familiar with CSA codes at all, but if the CSA code doesn't require a low impedance path for fault current from metal enclosures I'd be 'shocked".
@@wizard3z868 Did you catch the missing hub that required into the side of the transfer switch above exposed current carrying parts? ;)
Where do you get the wall pipe brackets from those are different than I've ever seen
Excellent work guys keep up greeting from Orange City Florida Bes safe 🙏
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Thank you Carlos 🙏
What did you use for control wiring
I use 16 gage
Que calibre usaste desde el generador hasta el Transfer?
Why the music??????
What is this supposed to do??? Not interested in watching you do something that isn't explained.
A transfer switch automatically detects when the power from the grid gets lost, and automatically starts the generator and shuts off the breaker going to the main grid so you don’t backfeed the main power lines with your generator. Think of it as automatically completely disconnecting you from the grid to power your house with a generator. Most building codes now require a transfer switch so that way a generator can’t be run while also backfeeding the power lines (which could put lineman at risk) due to energizing a line that they thought was dead.
No issue with clearance to the gas regulator? Did you use a gas flex connector or steel pipe all the way?
Black pipe
@@camilo8cheryl I don't see a drip leg. Is none required?
Where is the 2 inch bushings on the PVC pipe are they missing?
It plastic...chill
I see code violations. Just because you’re using PVC fittings doesn’t mean you don’t need to use bushings.
I am super jealous of this setup! What was the cost of the generator + installation?
Thank you Rob, I think it was around 12k Canadian $
Umm nice install but if that control board goes out you have made an easy job harder by not running your neutrals above and back down I install generac in the us and I wish our transfer switches had that much room
Now did you separate grounds and neutrals in the panel?
You could probably make it affordable if you did it in stages. Electrical one year, gas the second year, generator the third year, otherwise it would be a mortgage.
amazing video.very profesional!!!!!
whadafaq you talking about??? like a stalker filmed it.
I notice that the transfer switch comes bonded (Neutral-gnd) as shown by the green wire connecting the box/gnd to N. I am just learning installs and I was told to remove that wire as it is not bonded there but in the main panel that the xfer switch feeds. Any comments?
The ats becomes the 1st means of main disconnect therefore neutrals and grounds are bonded 4 wire should have been run to the panel because it is now a sub. bonding screw needs to be removed and grounds and neutrals separated but because it's an ats ahj in both countries seems to negate these facts
@@wizard3z868 Thanks, that was my thought as well, but I'm not the boss yet. I guess he'll have to deal with the inspector.
@@jerrysmith4272 ya there are others out there where they use the panel as a raceway for the feeder cables and or also as a junction box for the feeders to the ats than run the ats feeder cables back to the panel thru the same Nipple or conduit raceway I'm like wow inspectors are just letting sht go and none of them use 4 wires from ats to panel
@@jerrysmith4272 chk out this gem th-cam.com/video/f_VMf14UbFw/w-d-xo.html
Do you have to be certified to install 1
So if I add a automatic transfer switch when I install a generator do I have to put a separate Ground Bar in my main electrical meter and make it a subpanel
Depends on the install. In this case the generator backs up the whole service, so yes, the transfer switch becomes the one and only place where neutral to ground connections take place. That includes grounding electrode connections.
Is that meter too high? In Phoenix the max is 6ft 6in
So what is the diagram for the generator on the grounding ,bonding.. do I need to remove the green screw in the 40 space breaker panel as it's the secondary? Also, whatvis the diagram for the wires from the ATS to the generstor
this becomes the main panel and the panel inside need to become the sub panel. I see no ground wire going to panel inside.
Big J from Illinois illustrates why this video is catastrophically irresponsible. An intelligent, mechanically inclined homeowner could absolutely install their own generator with the proper video. This ain't it. I wouldn't hire these guys to tie my shoes. This is obviously their signature work.
@@bobtenwick got it figured out,this vid isnt helpful. It's more confusing then anything!
De donde sacas ese código que pusiste dime por favor
Something you don't see in the advertising, you basically have to have two major services reinstalled, & then you have the generator on top of that. And what a mess having all that hanging off the side of building. Integrating it into a new build would probably be the only way to make it worth while, otherwise the cost has got to be prohibitive.
How much is installation on 24kw generac?
Hi Blake, approximately 14k with installation
Who was the install done by
My meter box is on the highway NOT on my home can this still be done I have a 200 amp kill box by home then it goes inside to breaker box HELP!!!
Sure you can. You would need 200 amps none service rated transfer switch which is cheaper.
got one with gen@@Aplusair
I thought I saw a Generac ATS option without a main breaker making it just a transfer switch and the service disconnect could remain without making it a subpanel.
non service rated ATS is what you are ref
@@patthefireman100 Thanks
Wheres all the ground wires?
Anyone here do you need to put a regulator on the generator? If yes let me know please
So.. black pipe can't go outside
Have had for 3 years and once again when the power outage happened the K22 didn't work. Says i need a repair person. Paying 8 Grand for something that is supposed to work occasionally, does not work. My comments have nothing to do with the contractors in this ad. Just lost my husband and can't afford another $400 "service call".
Song?
Its too bad Generac doesnt make an attractive cabinet. The Honeywell...which is mostly Generac...is aluminum and attractive.
its literally the same machine and enclosure
@@patthefireman100 no it isnt. I looked at both of them side by side. The outside enclosure is completely different.
I have this same unit (Generac 22kw) and it is an aluminum enclosure. Color may be different but mine is the exact one shown in this video. I also know someone with a 16kw and the enclosure is identical to the 22kw - aluminum, color, and size.
I watched your video from 2015, and now this video from 2021. In over half a decade you guys have not changed! Still quite unprofessional. Can't even pour a proper concret slab. Can't even put the cables/lives lower to the ground to be less of an eye-sore. Driving the car onto the grass with no protection of the grass. The list can go on and on. The worst is I didn't even mention price, but it should go without saying that you're overpricing for your poor craftsmanship.
Horrible video just constantly playing music and no explanation of anything
Sound missing!
Aluminum wire is garbage going to the generator
Well, the obnoxiously loud music made this video worthless 👎👎
I hate the music
Music sucks, video is a Waste of time.
Nice to not speak ever