Eric Bischoff. Went from backstage announcer reject to controlling WCW and making it the number 1 organisation for a while. Massively over achieved no matter what way you see it. And he's a made man for life because of it
Great list, but I would add.. Ed "The Beefcake Barber Zodiac Butcher Disciple" Leslie. The man squeezed a 40 year career out of being Hulk Hogan's friend, because god knows it wasnt because of his wrestling or promos. Imagine having an awesome job your whole adult life just because you knew one dude. So for the first time in my life I can confidently say "Ed Leslie belongs at the top of this list."
@@brettt141 I think Zane is becoming one of the top wrestling channels. A clip of his review of a David Arquette match was shown in the 2020 Doc. "You cannot kill David Arquette".
@@billythekid22220 Not in terms of likes and views, no. Not yet. But there are two wrestling channels worth watching. Brian Zane, and "Dave Knows Wrestling", and sadly, hardly anyone knows the other guy. Most of these channels just chuck out the same crap as everyone else. These two actually care enough about their viewers to put out GOOD content.
During the monday night wars, I was a WCW watcher. I loved their midcard and cruiserweight talent. DDP was on the midcard forever and he was one of the few reasons I stayed with WCW for so long. That and the fact that he was so awesome without having to join one of the 5072 different NWO factions.....I've hated NWO from inception to present...
Random fun fact: Rey Mysterio wrestled the opening match at '96 Bash at the Beach, which as you all know was the site of Hulk Hogan's famous heel turn. But what you probably didn't know is that if you look at Dominic Mysterio's birthday and do the math Rey conceived Dominic right around that time, maybe that very night. You're welcome.
Trish Stratus has got to be up there. From hood ornament fitness model to pretty much the face of '00s women's wrestling and the launching point for the women's revolution of today.
Yeah she had NO RIGHT being as good as she became, especially in a time where someone like Sable got off solely off of her look. She actually seemed to respect the art of professional wrestling, and it showed.
@@SteRDLK John Laurinaitis was the reason they carried on hiring models to be wrestlers. Like it or not, the critically acclaimed women's wrestlers of today grew up in a world where Trish was the standard bearer for women's wrestling. Was she Manami Toyota? No, but she worked her ass off to have good matches and keep the division afloat..
As someone who watched him on the Real World:Back to New York, he has definitely grown up and matured. He was a loud, obnoxious, tad bit racist, and annoying dude. Over the years, he took his work ethic and spun it into the dynamic you see now.
@@Supervillain725 and also "ARM BAAAARRRRR" I wish they hadn't gone to commercial during that rant, I'd love to see how many times headlock and arm Bar were on that list ROFL
I remember when Miz and 'cold blooded' Matt Hardy were 1a and 1b for worst wrestler of the year. A couple of years later Maryse and Final Deletion made them HoF bound.
So you basically just want a list of juiced up blonde tall muscle? i doubt we can find a way to shorten Vince's muscle tussle to not overcrowd that list
Kevin Nash. Undisputed king of doing the least amount humanly possible. For god’s sake, he found a way to win a powerbomb match against Sid, without actually powerbombing him.
If achievements outside of wrestling were a big factor, i'd put The Rock on that list. From the hated Rocky Maivia gimmick, to the face of the company, to one of the most successfull and beloved hollywood action star. And he's not done yet and isn't slowing down either.
@@errdaykam4662 Vince saw Hogan as a star. Hogan was expected to become what he did. Thats achievement. His movie career was not particularly successful. B movies at best with the exception of Rocky 3. The Rock became one of the top draws ever, AND has a more-than-successful movie career that isnt done yet. Thats over-acheiving.
@@gsesquire3441 I would beg to differ, because he has had a movie career like no other wrestler before him. Hogan was in a handful of crapfests, but Johnson has starred in blockbuster after blockbuster. No one could really expect him to do that, since no other wrestler, including Hogan or Piper, who both had some middling success on the screen achieved that kind of success. It's a bit like saying the Beatles knew precisely how crazy things would get for them. How could they?
Kofi should have been on the list. The fact he's won almost every title in the company as a Black man with his look, who historically don't get pushed to the top, and he got over organically, he should be on the list.
It's safe to say without Jarrett creating TNA/Impact many former WWE, ECW and WCW stars not to mention future stars in the business would probably never of gotten the chance to prove themselves following the end of the Monday Night War
I am 5'8", so 5'4(?) Rey was more relatable to me. He was booed out of the building at the 2014 Royal Rumble for not being Daniel Bryan. Rey's knee was shot, so he had get that fixed. Find Rey's matches in Lucha Underground. He was treated like a deity. There is a Mysterio versus Prince Puma (Ricochet) match that is amazing. Rey was the foundation for every high flyer you see in modern American wrestling. Mysterio's surprise return at the 2018 Royal Rumble is one of my happiest moments of the last few years.
I have used Rey jr.'s match against Psicosis at Bash at the Beach 96 several times to show non-fans. The two came out to next to no reaction, but strickly through their in-ring and character work they had the crowd standing at the end. I think it is a super display of what pro-wrestling can be.
Jericho was an even bigger trendsetter in that case. First wrestler to have created his official website back when he was in WCW. Had a forum that consisted of some of the earliest wrestling shitposters engaging with each other
I know he has not as known in the mainstream wrestling world as the people on this list but for me as a wXw Fan the biggest overachiever in Wrestling will always be Karsten Beck. He used to be a fan who went to wXw shows, who then started to get involved in Shows as the ring crew ( you read that correctly he wasn´t a part of the ring crew he was the whole and did everything by himself) and then began to train as a wrestler. He was chubby and unatheltic and really not good when he started in 2006 with a very strange gimmick as Diego Latino. But he worked as hard as you can imagine and became better and better and became one of the most entertaining Wrestlers in Europe and pretty much synonymous with wXw and in January of 2015 the guy who used to be a fan who no one thought could be a wrestler became the champion - with the help of Vince Russo of all people ( who worked for wXw at that time). But in 2016 he got diagnosed with cancer, which forced him to end his career at the age 29. He came back as an authority figure a couple times even until early this year he was involved in storylines. But this october he lost his fight against cancer and died at the age of 33. He was a true inspiration and his whole career was a fairytale that seemed to cliché to be true.
I just want to say thank you for sharing Karsten's story. I may not have ever known of him beforehand, but you're keeping his memory alive and that means a ton. Such passion certainly deserves to be celebrated!
When Miz did the Calgary Kid angle to get his job back and then telling off Maryse in a promo in 09, that's when I got on board with him AND was legit glad when he beat Orton for MitB
Coming from the Reality Show background I was skeptical of the Miz. But Miz and Morrison and The Dirt Sheet web show made me realize he was a charismatic and funny guy. His singles push and US title runs actually made me a big fan. I think he overcame a big stigma, but dude climbed the Ranks. Also even if it doesn't lead to awesome matches, he may be one of the safest workers in the Company!
He's a hell of a worker now and probably one of if not the best guy on the mike in WWE right now. This coming from someone who hated his guts when he debuted back in the day.
Kofi? Nope. If anything during his first 1/2 years he was being built for a potential main event status but prodded around in lower midcard for almost all of the decade barring 6 months.
Two things about the Miz: That promo before the Cena match, the "you can hate me now" one, is brilliant. Secondly, his intercontinental run was while Brock was champion. So he managed to elevate the IC title to basically act as a proxy world title since the actual one never appeared on tv. He did this really, really well.
How the hell is Cena not here? He saved his own job in the colored shorts gimmick by rapping, then he got over with the most explicit gimmick in that time, became the top guy within three years of starting the gimmick, staying on top forEVER, marrying and then divorcing Nikki Bella, spinning off into tv and movies and stilllll coming back to rectify his win over Bray, not to mention the Make a Wish stuff. He’s an overachiever.
I was happy to see the Miz win Zane. Genuinely, I do not think I would have gotten into wrestling without the Miz. He was the first wrestler I became a genuine fan of as a kid.
I would've put Becky Lynch on the list, when she first showed up on NXT doing that Irish jig, I don't know if anyone could've predicted that she'd become one of the biggest stars in all of wrestling over the last few years. If you weren't going to have her on the main list, at least have her as an honourable mention. Also it's awesome to see The Miz on here, he's so underappreciated.
I was a late bloomer to the Miz. He's such an annoying shit, and that makes a great heel. Having grown up in the early eighties, I miss the jobbers. Also, HHH has the greatest theme song ever and ever will. Motorhead!
Probably would have to put Vince McMahon in his own category for this list. Say what you want about him now (and there is PLENTY), but he had very humble beginnings, even after finding his estranged father, he was held back and was not allowed to wrestle, he bought the company off his father (not inherit it like his kids will), built up a wrestling empire and brought wrestling into the main stream twice (once in the 80s and then again in the late 90s/early 00s), and cemented it as a global well known brand, and for the last 40 odd years has overseen every aspect of WWE (for better or worse), and still does have a passion for the business (in his own weird Vince way).
Christian should've been on here imo, survived for decades and won big titles (and was in one of the most beloved tag-teams of all time), despite never really being seen as a top guy by the company
I’m a huge Christian fan but I don’t think he’s an overachiever. In WWE he was always seen as a sidekick to bigger personalities like Jericho and Edge. In TNA despite being booked so strong early on, as soon as Kurt Angle debuted Christian Cage was all be forgotten (Kurt even changed The Christian Coalition intoTeam Angle). What’s worse is that when he returned to WWE his World title reigns were booked so weak and almost as pity for the fact his best friend had to retire.
Neither of them are over-achievers. They got popular in ONE field, and were never at the top of the Food Chain. Even Edge with title reigns was never the "top guy". Thats having a successful career. Not over achieving. To over-achieve, one has to find success outside of wrestling. Like the Rock, with an on-going successful hollywood movie star.
@dagiftofgab247 HHH is two steps above a trash bag wrestler, who held back better talent for years with the Kliq, and continued to bury people more talented than him during the "reign of terror" which drove away millions of fans and they never came back. He personally drove the ratings down and down week after week. He's never been a financial draw like The Rock, Hogan, and Austin. The best thing he ever "achieved" is marrying the bosses daughter. Thats his biggest contribution to the buisiness. You? You're obviously HHH mark, and probably 12 years old.
The man lived in a trailer out in a park if I'm not mistaken. He started out with very few. Crazy to think that he didn't inherit the company from his father, he BOUGHT it.
It doesn’t get talked about enough but the Rock/Jericho rivalry from late 2001 to about early 2002 was damn good in my opinion and the two had great chemistry with each other
Brock Lesnar, by knowing his worth and not taking any bullshit + pure work ethic he continiously raised his own value to became the highest paid person per match/appearance and even one of the highest paid persons in general that the buisness has ever had, also he never really played any role outside of the main event scene
@@Backwoods_Squatch he won multiple world titles, had memorable rivalries, and put on great matches despite being told he was just a “tag team wrestler”
@@PassingByNotIncitingRiots True, but looking at his work he's more of a underachiver. He had the Potential of a Edge-like career, he had all what is necessary just not the trust of the boss.
@@gandalfthegrey7135 which is why he was an overachiever, they told him he was just a tag team guy so he left and went to TNA, killed it, came back and they finally saw his potential
Paige earned his push. The crowds went nuts for him anytime he did anything and was believable from 97 til WCW closed. He also had Goldberg's best match ever. Dude is amazing.
Page was one of the few main eventers WCW had at the time who could actually go in the ring. If anything they took too long to pull the trigger on him being world champion.
Add a certain skinny, spectacled guy from Reno who began a channel on youtube reviewing professional wrestling...going on to become a fan favourite with perhaps the most entertaining wrestling channel on TH-cam! Kudos to the Z man Brian Zane !
Honestly, Kofi Kingston. When he debuted on ECW with his Jamaican gimmick and of course after his feud with Randy Orton in 2009 which ruined his main event push for 10 years, he didn't even get a singles match against Orton during their feud for Orton's title, who would've thought he'd amount to anything like he has and stay employed for as long as he has? After 11 years in the company he became WWE Champion at Wrestlemania when he wasn't even slated to do so even after his incredible gauntlet and Elimination Chamber performances. Lest we forget Kofi is a 4x Intercontinental Champion, 3x United States Champion and 13x and the longest reigning Tag Team Champion in WWE history and apart of one of the best factions of all time in New Day. He's also a grand slam and triple crown champion and the first fully black and African born WWE Champion. To achieve all that after his first few years in the company is very impressive.
This. Kofi belongs on this list more than at least half the people that were on it. His steady work ethic and accolades are honestly insane. He's also been a title holder for over 1500 days, one of very few to do that, and I think has been a champion for roughly half his entire WWE career.
@@streamofthesky That's completely possible, that record breaking Tag Title reign contributes to that most likely. He was even WWE Champion for 180 days and barely lost while he held the title, shame how it all ended.
Can't agree more with Matt. He was always seen as the 'other Hardy' and when Jeff was shot to the stars, Matt was... elsewhere. Doing whatever. The storyline with him becoming Big Money Matt and then Broken Matt in Impact was just nothing short of amazing. The fact that he outshone his brother despite years of big titles and legions of fans.
Jarrett, disadvantaged? His dad owned a territory which let him get started and got him a job in WWF, he was friends with Vince Russo so got pushed into the main event and won the title multiple times despite never being over, then again created his own promotion allowing him to push himself. He had everything going for him and still everyone hates him.
I'd throw Becky Lynch on this list when you consider her start, her exodus, her comeback and how close she was to being cut and how much of a non-factor she was for most of her main-roster run, to basically becoming one of the most over, historically-significant women in wrestling history.
@@mitchcolburn1216 The ratings have been consistently going down in WWF/E since about 2001, no matter who was on top, including people on this list. Also, I don't recall the video ever mentioning business reasons being a criterion for overachieving.
Maybe I'm old, or a hometown guy, but Mikey Whipwreck in ECW. Was a ring crew guy who took payments by rolling around in the ring, got over with the fans. Was tag champ with Cactus Jack and was ECW Champ with a victory over Steve Austin! Not a huge name in wrestling lore, but had made his mark. Later managed by friend of your page Sinister Minister.
Waltman is still active in wrestling and is in great shape, dude has hella longevity and he hasn’t even spent a significant time in one of the big two companies in years. He deserves more respect says I.
To anyone who thinks DDP being World Champ was a political move or something else negative: go watch the crowd reactions he got at the time. He deserved it.
@@TravJam317 Definitely. Go watch the crowd reaction when he tricked the NWO into thinking he was joining and then hit the Diamond Cutter on Scott Hall. That crowd lost their damn minds. He was over and earned his spot at the top.
I will always have massive respect for Mick Foley, definitely broke the mold when they made him. He's a real standup guy too outside the ring. God bless Mick Foley
I was at Wrestlemania 28 and the Raw after. The “Yes” and “Daniel Bryan” chants dominated both those nights. During the Dark Main Event, Bryan said if kept chanting “Yes!” a new shirt would be made, and it came out about 2 weeks later.
15:20 Could've been the online circles I was running in, but Miz seemed to have a bit of a cult following online in 09-10, such that a ton of people went crazy when he won the title. Really, it wasn't until Punk buried him on his DVD that I noticed a big backlash against him as a main eventer.
Have to add in Cody Rhodes, The Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, and Hangman Adam Page. They took the risk to leave NJPW, hold a independent wrestling PPV, and it led to the birth of AEW, propelling themselves to being the #2 wrestling company in the US, and making them the only true competitor to WWE.
Nice video! I expected all of the wrestlers you talked about to be guys with bad physiques, but you were able to think about the idea of an "overachiever" more creatively. Good job.
Was thinking Asuka. She was in her mid 30's when she got signed and spoke little to no English. You think fast forward 5 years she would have the longest women's reign behind Moolah, main event 2 PPVs and won, winner of almost every title,first women's Royal Rumble winner, money in the bank winner and current double champ at almost 40 years old
Mike Graham famously buried Jeff Jarrett who was an infinitely more successful second generation wrestler than him. His remark is amusing yet also petty since they're obviously burying JJ in that documentry since he was in charge of the competition (TNA) at the time.
Booker T deserves one everyone thought he would be a life-long tag team wrestler when Stevie Ray got injured everyone thought he would be doomed and would never get over as a singles star.
>I'm surprised you didn't cut to DBry choking Justin Roberts with a tie when you referenced his release. >I wonder if Jericho holds a position in the company due to that. >I'm surprised DDPYoga didn't make an appearance. It has been touted as part of the career/physical resurrection of a lot of stars, from the well-known ones like Roberts and Hall to others citing it as helping them regain what they thought they'd lost due to years of injuries. >Foley is another who deserves every accolade. Purely for the amount of shit he put his body through over the years. He's got enough of that everyman charisma that, even without all the spots, he'd have no doubt gotten over regardless. >That is one way to describe wCw Rey. He's deserved a better hand than he's been dealt but he's managed to have a long storied career despite what wCw and WWE have tried to do to him. >Was the Austin 3:16 commentary on camera or off-camera? Regardless, that honestly sounds like a great setup for a feud if you ask me. Austin going after Jarrett for attacking his catchphrase, Jarrett playing the proud religious man. On the TNA topic, he'd probably still be running it if Dixie Carter and his personal demons didn't get in the way.
Calling Jeff Jarrett an overachiever is hilarious. The most adversity he faced was trying to find any semblance of charisma and personality beyond calling people slapnuts and being a misogynist. Dude was given opportunity after opportunity because of who he knew. He underachieved based on his opportunities received. I guess he overachieved based on his talent level?
I was thinking the same thing Jarret was literally born into the business with a silver spoon and was fed opportunity after opportunity and was still average to below average in everything. Maybe he over achieved in a business since but as a wrestler he under achieved big time.
Cody Rhodes went from a midcarder on WWE to international superstar to starting a critically acclaimed wrestling company of his own. He's doing the Jeff Jarrett shtick, only bigger, better, and earlier.
1. You can't really call Santino Marella a "Jobber" especially if he was IC champion (he BECAME a jobber later,that's a different story) and you could put Honky Tonk Man in that category too. 2. You can put Becky Lynch on this list too, cause she was the "forgotten " member of the So-Called Four Horsewomen for the longest time AND she had that thick Irish accent which (as I've read) annoyed the hell out of Kevin Dunn people backstage thought that hindered her Marketability.She leaned into her inner Connor McGregor and has pretty much the biggest women's wrestling star in recent memory (and you know you're over,when they cheer you over the more mainstream RHONDA ROUSEY)
How does Jeff Jarrett make the list? His dad literally ran a wrestling company, so he was born into the business, had a broad skill set which extended outside of the ring, and he had tons of connections.
Ummm Ric Flair? Broke his back twice and barely slowed down for thirty some years? How about Hulk Hogan? Came back from a Matsuda broken leg to invent Hulkamania, George Lucas the hell out of it, and cement pro wrestling in modern pop culture for multiple generations? I can't say that I LIKE those two guys, but they probably deserve mention among pro wrestling overachievers. I'd also be tempted to include Undertaker, best and most enduring character, and maybe even Shawn Michaels for longevity, bumps and overall ability.
I always thought that Jarrett's claim of Austin 3:16 as being "blasphemous" was no big deal, and the backlash was way overblown. Wrestlers talk smack on each other all the time.
My biggest overachiever of all time is Bill Goldberg. There have been other men that have become stars primarily for their look, but none of them had the combination of crap ringwork and bland promos Bill possessed. And, somehow, he managed to turn that into a wildly popular career he sustains 22 years later. And he never learned how to wrestle. And he only ever cut 1 memorable promo. And people still go gaga over him.
Eric Bischoff. Went from backstage announcer reject to controlling WCW and making it the number 1 organisation for a while. Massively over achieved no matter what way you see it. And he's a made man for life because of it
Door to door meat salesman
@@Justicesdad "If it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff would still be selling meat from a truck in Minneapolis!"
“There’s not a camera that the Miz has turned down.” Rarely have truer words ever been spoken.
Great list, but I would add..
Ed "The Beefcake Barber Zodiac Butcher Disciple" Leslie. The man squeezed a 40 year career out of being Hulk Hogan's friend, because god knows it wasnt because of his wrestling or promos. Imagine having an awesome job your whole adult life just because you knew one dude. So for the first time in my life I can confidently say "Ed Leslie belongs at the top of this list."
He even headlined WCW flagship PPV Starrcade 94 against Hulk Hogan.
Best comment!! 😂😂
1. Brian Zane. Started as a kid in his room and is now king of youtube and had a full man moustache.
only has 306k subs. thats not even jester of youtube. let alone king. pretty sure that groomer adam blampied has more than that.
OHH YEAH!
@@brettt141 I think Zane is becoming one of the top wrestling channels. A clip of his review of a David Arquette match was shown in the 2020 Doc. "You cannot kill David Arquette".
@@billythekid22220 Not in terms of likes and views, no. Not yet. But there are two wrestling channels worth watching. Brian Zane, and "Dave Knows Wrestling", and sadly, hardly anyone knows the other guy.
Most of these channels just chuck out the same crap as everyone else. These two actually care enough about their viewers to put out GOOD content.
@@Backwoods_Squatch I know Dave. The Yakuza reviewer
People forget just how big DDP was. Herschel Walker did his “bang” gesture after scoring a TD during his second tenure with the Cowboys.
I loved DDP as a wrestler and his work rehabbing guys after they retire is just wonderful. A great man both inside and outside the ring.
During the monday night wars, I was a WCW watcher. I loved their midcard and cruiserweight talent. DDP was on the midcard forever and he was one of the few reasons I stayed with WCW for so long. That and the fact that he was so awesome without having to join one of the 5072 different NWO factions.....I've hated NWO from inception to present...
And now Hershel is a brain dead lunatic.
Random fun fact: Rey Mysterio wrestled the opening match at '96 Bash at the Beach, which as you all know was the site of Hulk Hogan's famous heel turn. But what you probably didn't know is that if you look at Dominic Mysterio's birthday and do the math Rey conceived Dominic right around that time, maybe that very night. You're welcome.
Wow that is interesting.
Gwan Rey, get one in for the lads
Did Hogan turning heel make Rey horny?
@@SG5002. it did me and I was five at the time
You mean Eddie conceived Dominik on that night.
Trish Stratus has got to be up there. From hood ornament fitness model to pretty much the face of '00s women's wrestling and the launching point for the women's revolution of today.
Yeah she had NO RIGHT being as good as she became, especially in a time where someone like Sable got off solely off of her look. She actually seemed to respect the art of professional wrestling, and it showed.
That might be the biggest miss in this list. She definitely should be on there.
I don't really get his top two at all.
lol at Trish being the launching point for the women's revolution. She was the reason they carried on hiring models to be wrestlers.
@@SteRDLK John Laurinaitis was the reason they carried on hiring models to be wrestlers. Like it or not, the critically acclaimed women's wrestlers of today grew up in a world where Trish was the standard bearer for women's wrestling. Was she Manami Toyota? No, but she worked her ass off to have good matches and keep the division afloat..
Trish was the reason the division became so god damn horrible.
You can say what you want about the Miz, but the guy never gave up.
I can respect that.
He really should have. He's literally the worst.
As someone who watched him on the Real World:Back to New York, he has definitely grown up and matured. He was a loud, obnoxious, tad bit racist, and annoying dude. Over the years, he took his work ethic and spun it into the dynamic you see now.
@@G33kCulture ?
@@G33kCulture And he has one of the hottest fucking wifes in the world
A strangely jacked 12-year-old, is now how I’m going to explain Ray Misterio to people that do not watch wrestling, and thank you Brian for that.
That will also apply to Dominick because boy did he inherit that babyface.
Damn, dude...at least show the man some respect by spelling his name correctly 😢
Maybe learn how to spell Rey Mysterio first before deciding how you will describe him to non fans?
@@robertomedina5100 they did. That's how you spell "mystery" in Spanish. The "y" is for trademark purposes.
@@christopherwall2121 They also spelled "Rey" with an "A".
"The Man of 1004 Holds" I loved that, him and Malenko had amazing matches... Arm Bar!! Lol
Don't forget the headlock.
@@Supervillain725 and also "ARM BAAAARRRRR" I wish they hadn't gone to commercial during that rant, I'd love to see how many times headlock and arm Bar were on that list ROFL
Armdrag
I remember when Miz and 'cold blooded' Matt Hardy were 1a and 1b for worst wrestler of the year. A couple of years later Maryse and Final Deletion made them HoF bound.
Aj styles man has held a title in every major company in the modern era and has yet to slow down
Well, except AEW obviously. And since Aj wants to end his career in WWE, he likely won’t.
AJ Styles also never held the RoH world title.
@@indieauthorjasonblayne7511 won the ROH pure championship
@@rino6693 comparing that title to any world title though isn't on the same scale. Its not the NWA/TNA/Impact or IWGP or WWE world title.
@@jbfarley yeah and defunct titles are a completely different list to themselves.
Now we need an underachievers list.
So you basically just want a list of juiced up blonde tall muscle?
i doubt we can find a way to shorten Vince's muscle tussle to not overcrowd that list
Maybe for underachieving people it should be a list of guys who were really good but couldn't get anywhere
#1-8: Ultimate Warrior
Carlito, maybe? Idk, i always heard that he didn't try as hard. That and it lead to that moment when Ric Flair grilled the hell out of him backstage.
Kevin Nash. Undisputed king of doing the least amount humanly possible. For god’s sake, he found a way to win a powerbomb match against Sid, without actually powerbombing him.
If achievements outside of wrestling were a big factor, i'd put The Rock on that list. From the hated Rocky Maivia gimmick, to the face of the company, to one of the most successfull and beloved hollywood action star. And he's not done yet and isn't slowing down either.
I cant imagine why he was left off this list. He is hands-down the biggest and most successful over-achiever.
Vince still saw him as a star though
@@errdaykam4662 Vince saw Hogan as a star.
Hogan was expected to become what he did. Thats achievement. His movie career was not particularly successful. B movies at best with the exception of Rocky 3.
The Rock became one of the top draws ever, AND has a more-than-successful movie career that isnt done yet. Thats over-acheiving.
@@gsesquire3441
Agreed.
@@gsesquire3441 I would beg to differ, because he has had a movie career like no other wrestler before him. Hogan was in a handful of crapfests, but Johnson has starred in blockbuster after blockbuster. No one could really expect him to do that, since no other wrestler, including Hogan or Piper, who both had some middling success on the screen achieved that kind of success.
It's a bit like saying the Beatles knew precisely how crazy things would get for them. How could they?
Kofi should have been on the list. The fact he's won almost every title in the company as a Black man with his look, who historically don't get pushed to the top, and he got over organically, he should be on the list.
Very true
@@ethanhartman7329 I also think Booker T should get a mention in this video for three simple words: TRIPLE H BURIAL
Yes he should be.
over Jericho, for sure.
@@kenterminateddq5311 The best counter is King Booka!!!
"I'm gonna create my own wrestling company! With blackjack and hookers!" -Bender (probably)
Bite my shiny metal ass!
Was looking through the comments to see if anyone else got this reference 😂😂
In fact, forget the wrestling!
I can hear Triple H now: “Thanks for the-ah kind-ah wordzzz Zane. Boop!”
Brian pumping videos out like he was Scott Steiner's bicep
Nothing artificial about these videos 😂
@@OCs_And_Stories nice 👍🏼
It's safe to say without Jarrett creating TNA/Impact many former WWE, ECW and WCW stars not to mention future stars in the business would probably never of gotten the chance to prove themselves following the end of the Monday Night War
not entirely true. their might be another promoter that came up with another promotion
I am 5'8", so 5'4(?) Rey was more relatable to me. He was booed out of the building at the 2014 Royal Rumble for not being Daniel Bryan.
Rey's knee was shot, so he had get that fixed. Find Rey's matches in Lucha Underground. He was treated like a deity. There is a Mysterio versus Prince Puma (Ricochet) match that is amazing. Rey was the foundation for every high flyer you see in modern American wrestling.
Mysterio's surprise return at the 2018 Royal Rumble is one of my happiest moments of the last few years.
People should just watch lucha underground anyway. Amazing show
I remember Rey being slightly taller than Amazing Red who is 5'4" but agreed
Been a fan of Rey since I was a kid in the 90s watching him fly all over WCW.
I have used Rey jr.'s match against Psicosis at Bash at the Beach 96 several times to show non-fans. The two came out to next to no reaction, but strickly through their in-ring and character work they had the crowd standing at the end.
I think it is a super display of what pro-wrestling can be.
Surprised you didn't mention Matt Hardy also having the pulse of internet content & using social media back on MySpace or his Hardy TV stint.
Jericho was an even bigger trendsetter in that case. First wrestler to have created his official website back when he was in WCW. Had a forum that consisted of some of the earliest wrestling shitposters engaging with each other
I know he has not as known in the mainstream wrestling world as the people on this list but for me as a wXw Fan the biggest overachiever in Wrestling will always be Karsten Beck. He used to be a fan who went to wXw shows, who then started to get involved in Shows as the ring crew ( you read that correctly he wasn´t a part of the ring crew he was the whole and did everything by himself) and then began to train as a wrestler. He was chubby and unatheltic and really not good when he started in 2006 with a very strange gimmick as Diego Latino.
But he worked as hard as you can imagine and became better and better and became one of the most entertaining Wrestlers in Europe and pretty much synonymous with wXw and in January of 2015 the guy who used to be a fan who no one thought could be a wrestler became the champion - with the help of Vince Russo of all people ( who worked for wXw at that time). But in 2016 he got diagnosed with cancer, which forced him to end his career at the age 29. He came back as an authority figure a couple times even until early this year he was involved in storylines. But this october he lost his fight against cancer and died at the age of 33.
He was a true inspiration and his whole career was a fairytale that seemed to cliché to be true.
I just want to say thank you for sharing Karsten's story. I may not have ever known of him beforehand, but you're keeping his memory alive and that means a ton. Such passion certainly deserves to be celebrated!
18:41 With blackjack and hookers? It makes me wondered why Godfather never performed for TNA.
He has money and self-respect.
@@th3gr81 For a guy who runs a strip club? Ok lol.
genuinely it probably was just bad timing. By 2002 he was retiring from WWE and from wrestling in general.
Not sure if serious or not but that line is from Futurama
@@MrLeedlesProductions It's crazy since that was the year that Godfather came back with an "escort service" lol.
When Miz did the Calgary Kid angle to get his job back and then telling off Maryse in a promo in 09, that's when I got on board with him AND was legit glad when he beat Orton for MitB
That angle needed more Lance Storm.
Coming from the Reality Show background I was skeptical of the Miz. But Miz and Morrison and The Dirt Sheet web show made me realize he was a charismatic and funny guy. His singles push and US title runs actually made me a big fan.
I think he overcame a big stigma, but dude climbed the Ranks. Also even if it doesn't lead to awesome matches, he may be one of the safest workers in the Company!
Well, unless he's trying to catch you
He was even able to use his reputation as a safe worker for heel heat, that's how good Miz is.
He's a hell of a worker now and probably one of if not the best guy on the mike in WWE right now. This coming from someone who hated his guts when he debuted back in the day.
Good list. Booker T, Kofi Kingston, Becky Lynch, and Sasha Banks would also be good choices imo.
definitely agree with Becky, Booker and Kofi. Sasha...not so much, maybe just personal bias but not as important as the other three.
I thought of Sable too, even though she didn't last but a few years in the company at her peak.
William Regal had to beg WWE to hire Sasha and fight for her. And she’s been one of WWE’s most over stars for going on half a decade now.
Kofi? Nope. If anything during his first 1/2 years he was being built for a potential main event status but prodded around in lower midcard for almost all of the decade barring 6 months.
@@ajk Sable was an overachiever but not for the right reasons
Two things about the Miz: That promo before the Cena match, the "you can hate me now" one, is brilliant. Secondly, his intercontinental run was while Brock was champion. So he managed to elevate the IC title to basically act as a proxy world title since the actual one never appeared on tv. He did this really, really well.
I started to believe in The Miz during his feud with Bryan, which I believe helped Bryan getting over with the casual fan
How the hell is Cena not here? He saved his own job in the colored shorts gimmick by rapping, then he got over with the most explicit gimmick in that time, became the top guy within three years of starting the gimmick, staying on top forEVER, marrying and then divorcing Nikki Bella, spinning off into tv and movies and stilllll coming back to rectify his win over Bray, not to mention the Make a Wish stuff. He’s an overachiever.
4:02 "I would throw my back for fans to touch as I was making my way to the ring just to somehow stand out" - A Lion's Tale
I was happy to see the Miz win Zane. Genuinely, I do not think I would have gotten into wrestling without the Miz. He was the first wrestler I became a genuine fan of as a kid.
"Whatever Mantaur was supposed to be.." My guess is Greek Mythology enthusiast.
Mantaur was the original Furrie.
I would've put Becky Lynch on the list, when she first showed up on NXT doing that Irish jig, I don't know if anyone could've predicted that she'd become one of the biggest stars in all of wrestling over the last few years. If you weren't going to have her on the main list, at least have her as an honourable mention. Also it's awesome to see The Miz on here, he's so underappreciated.
this exact sentiment
I was a late bloomer to the Miz. He's such an annoying shit, and that makes a great heel. Having grown up in the early eighties, I miss the jobbers. Also, HHH has the greatest theme song ever and ever will. Motorhead!
I named my only son (and only child for that matter) Lemmy for good reason. 🤘
We need more jobbers in ALL prowrestling companies.
@@omnientertainment5852 *laughs in AEW dark*
My time was better
@@Dickinabox Motorhead's theme for HHH is the best.
Probably would have to put Vince McMahon in his own category for this list. Say what you want about him now (and there is PLENTY), but he had very humble beginnings, even after finding his estranged father, he was held back and was not allowed to wrestle, he bought the company off his father (not inherit it like his kids will), built up a wrestling empire and brought wrestling into the main stream twice (once in the 80s and then again in the late 90s/early 00s), and cemented it as a global well known brand, and for the last 40 odd years has overseen every aspect of WWE (for better or worse), and still does have a passion for the business (in his own weird Vince way).
Christian should've been on here imo, survived for decades and won big titles (and was in one of the most beloved tag-teams of all time), despite never really being seen as a top guy by the company
I’m a huge Christian fan but I don’t think he’s an overachiever. In WWE he was always seen as a sidekick to bigger personalities like Jericho and Edge. In TNA despite being booked so strong early on, as soon as Kurt Angle debuted Christian Cage was all be forgotten (Kurt even changed The Christian Coalition intoTeam Angle). What’s worse is that when he returned to WWE his World title reigns were booked so weak and almost as pity for the fact his best friend had to retire.
my pic would be Christian probably one of the most underrated wrestlers ever
Christian > Edge
Neither of them are over-achievers. They got popular in ONE field, and were never at the top of the Food Chain. Even Edge with title reigns was never the "top guy".
Thats having a successful career. Not over achieving. To over-achieve, one has to find success outside of wrestling. Like the Rock, with an on-going successful hollywood movie star.
@dagiftofgab247 HHH is two steps above a trash bag wrestler, who held back better talent for years with the Kliq, and continued to bury people more talented than him during the "reign of terror" which drove away millions of fans and they never came back. He personally drove the ratings down and down week after week. He's never been a financial draw like The Rock, Hogan, and Austin. The best thing he ever "achieved" is marrying the bosses daughter. Thats his biggest contribution to the buisiness. You? You're obviously HHH mark, and probably 12 years old.
@@Backwoods_Squatch Which better talent did the Kliq hold back? A fat 40 year old Vader and Shane Douglas?
Jeff Jarret somehow has had 76 title reigns in his career. Which is about the number of tickets he’s ever actually sold as a headliner
Honestly, I would even put Vince McMahon on the list. The man was even WWE Champion at one point.
and ECW Champ
and he beat god
@@heylolp9 And God has never stepped back into the ring ever again after that match.
The man lived in a trailer out in a park if I'm not mistaken. He started out with very few. Crazy to think that he didn't inherit the company from his father, he BOUGHT it.
It doesn’t get talked about enough but the Rock/Jericho rivalry from late 2001 to about early 2002 was damn good in my opinion and the two had great chemistry with each other
I loved their feud!
Brock Lesnar, by knowing his worth and not taking any bullshit + pure work ethic he continiously raised his own value to became the highest paid person per match/appearance and even one of the highest paid persons in general that the buisness has ever had, also he never really played any role outside of the main event scene
I like that we left Page's WWE run out of here.
better to pretend it never happened
0:36 "Or just dumb luck" and Triple H is shown. LOL
He's not wrong
Triple H was in the right place with the right people at the right time basically.
HHH probably would've made it on his own as the top guys in the company liked working with him.
You know the list is gonna be good when the first 2 entries are among the 5 best modern workers with legitimate G.O.A.T. status on the line
Zane left out :
Chrsitian
What has Christian done outside wrestling? Nothing. He's not an over-achiever.
@@Backwoods_Squatch he won multiple world titles, had memorable rivalries, and put on great matches despite being told he was just a “tag team wrestler”
@@PassingByNotIncitingRiots True, but looking at his work he's more of a underachiver.
He had the Potential of a Edge-like career, he had all what is necessary just not the trust of the boss.
@@gandalfthegrey7135 which is why he was an overachiever, they told him he was just a tag team guy so he left and went to TNA, killed it, came back and they finally saw his potential
@@PassingByNotIncitingRiots I hadnt even considered his TNA stuff. You may have a point.
Paige earned his push. The crowds went nuts for him anytime he did anything and was believable from 97 til WCW closed. He also had Goldberg's best match ever. Dude is amazing.
Page was one of the few main eventers WCW had at the time who could actually go in the ring. If anything they took too long to pull the trigger on him being world champion.
Add a certain skinny, spectacled guy from Reno who began a channel on youtube reviewing professional wrestling...going on to become a fan favourite with perhaps the most entertaining wrestling channel on TH-cam! Kudos to the Z man Brian Zane !
"Dispite resembling a strangely jacked 12 year old boy" im knew i wasint the only one who felt that way
Honestly, Kofi Kingston. When he debuted on ECW with his Jamaican gimmick and of course after his feud with Randy Orton in 2009 which ruined his main event push for 10 years, he didn't even get a singles match against Orton during their feud for Orton's title, who would've thought he'd amount to anything like he has and stay employed for as long as he has? After 11 years in the company he became WWE Champion at Wrestlemania when he wasn't even slated to do so even after his incredible gauntlet and Elimination Chamber performances. Lest we forget Kofi is a 4x Intercontinental Champion, 3x United States Champion and 13x and the longest reigning Tag Team Champion in WWE history and apart of one of the best factions of all time in New Day. He's also a grand slam and triple crown champion and the first fully black and African born WWE Champion. To achieve all that after his first few years in the company is very impressive.
This. Kofi belongs on this list more than at least half the people that were on it. His steady work ethic and accolades are honestly insane. He's also been a title holder for over 1500 days, one of very few to do that, and I think has been a champion for roughly half his entire WWE career.
@@streamofthesky That's completely possible, that record breaking Tag Title reign contributes to that most likely. He was even WWE Champion for 180 days and barely lost while he held the title, shame how it all ended.
Can't agree more with Matt. He was always seen as the 'other Hardy' and when Jeff was shot to the stars, Matt was... elsewhere. Doing whatever. The storyline with him becoming Big Money Matt and then Broken Matt in Impact was just nothing short of amazing. The fact that he outshone his brother despite years of big titles and legions of fans.
Matt Hardy deserved to win MITB at least once.
He did on smackdown vs raw 2010 🤣
With Jericho in the WWE, it’s like being handed gold, and saying back to the guy who gave it to you “Why did you hand me a fuckin rock?”
Jarrett, disadvantaged? His dad owned a territory which let him get started and got him a job in WWF, he was friends with Vince Russo so got pushed into the main event and won the title multiple times despite never being over, then again created his own promotion allowing him to push himself. He had everything going for him and still everyone hates him.
I'd throw Becky Lynch on this list when you consider her start, her exodus, her comeback and how close she was to being cut and how much of a non-factor she was for most of her main-roster run, to basically becoming one of the most over, historically-significant women in wrestling history.
Yeah, so over the ratings consistently went down when she was on. Come on, dude.
@@mitchcolburn1216 The ratings have been consistently going down in WWF/E since about 2001, no matter who was on top, including people on this list. Also, I don't recall the video ever mentioning business reasons being a criterion for overachieving.
Maybe I'm old, or a hometown guy, but Mikey Whipwreck in ECW. Was a ring crew guy who took payments by rolling around in the ring, got over with the fans. Was tag champ with Cactus Jack and was ECW Champ with a victory over Steve Austin! Not a huge name in wrestling lore, but had made his mark. Later managed by friend of your page Sinister Minister.
I'd like to add CM Punk and to a lesser extent, Sean Waltman.
I would consider X-Pac an underachiever. He was more talented than 95% of the roster but couldn’t keep his shit together.
Aye, Pink did it when "indie darling" was an insult and a hindrance.
Waltman is still active in wrestling and is in great shape, dude has hella longevity and he hasn’t even spent a significant time in one of the big two companies in years. He deserves more respect says I.
I pop every time BZ brings up all the surgeries on Rey's left KNEE!
To anyone who thinks DDP being World Champ was a political move or something else negative: go watch the crowd reactions he got at the time. He deserved it.
He's one of the few guys that we could've bought to end Goldberg's streak. Specifically at Halloween Havoc '98.
@@TravJam317 Definitely. Go watch the crowd reaction when he tricked the NWO into thinking he was joining and then hit the Diamond Cutter on Scott Hall. That crowd lost their damn minds. He was over and earned his spot at the top.
Bischoff actually held ddp back and Nash and hall had to plea for him to pull the trigger
@@devinmiller2758 Exactly, he feared people will say he pushed him because they were friends.
I will always have massive respect for Mick Foley, definitely broke the mold when they made him. He's a real standup guy too outside the ring.
God bless Mick Foley
Vince: "yus, yus, yus, yus... yus"
Why did it look like he couldn’t lift his arms 🤔😂
@@ITM95 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 glad to see I wasn’t the only one who thought that
@@ITM95 to be fair, he has more pounds on his arms than most elderly men can "naturally" lift.
I remember the Yes chant quite well. I was in the Wrestlemania 31 crowd after all in the Intercontinental Championship ladder match!
Then Y2J said they need new catchphrase not yes.
@@Dim4323 Well he did have a bit of a point. This is Chris Jericho we're talking about
I was at Wrestlemania 28 and the Raw after. The “Yes” and “Daniel Bryan” chants dominated both those nights. During the Dark Main Event, Bryan said if kept chanting “Yes!” a new shirt would be made, and it came out about 2 weeks later.
15:20 Could've been the online circles I was running in, but Miz seemed to have a bit of a cult following online in 09-10, such that a ton of people went crazy when he won the title. Really, it wasn't until Punk buried him on his DVD that I noticed a big backlash against him as a main eventer.
15:20 "Actually happen to see him win". Unmmm, The Miz Girl that's your cue. 😉😂
Have to add in Cody Rhodes, The Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, and Hangman Adam Page. They took the risk to leave NJPW, hold a independent wrestling PPV, and it led to the birth of AEW, propelling themselves to being the #2 wrestling company in the US, and making them the only true competitor to WWE.
Nice video! I expected all of the wrestlers you talked about to be guys with bad physiques, but you were able to think about the idea of an "overachiever" more creatively. Good job.
18:40
Currently, they're saying "Matter fact, forget the wrestling!"
I liked it when The Miz won the WWE title
Im a big fan of his 😁
The fact that Brian doesn’t have a million subs, let alone half a mil is upsetting to me!!!
Ah the Broken Matt era. The one time Matt was more over than his brother for a brief period. What a time.
"5 times on my Left Kneeee"
-Rey Mysterio
Was thinking Asuka. She was in her mid 30's when she got signed and spoke little to no English.
You think fast forward 5 years she would have the longest women's reign behind Moolah, main event 2 PPVs and won, winner of almost every title,first women's Royal Rumble winner, money in the bank winner and current double champ at almost 40 years old
For some reason, Zack Ryder popped in my head, but I don't think he's quite there yet.
Mike Graham famously buried Jeff Jarrett who was an infinitely more successful second generation wrestler than him. His remark is amusing yet also petty since they're obviously burying JJ in that documentry since he was in charge of the competition (TNA) at the time.
"There was his left KNEE." Cracked me up. XD
Gotta have Christian on this list somewhere. Vince hated his look so much he wanted to have him wrestle with a blue dot over his face
Booker T deserves one everyone thought he would be a life-long tag team wrestler when Stevie Ray got injured everyone thought he would be doomed and would never get over as a singles star.
Fun fact: Me, my dad, and Duane Gill are alumni from the same high school. He was a senior when my dad was a freshman
That’s awesome
Part of me thought Vince McMahon might be number one. Can't deny he's achieved above and beyond what anyone in wrestling ever thought was possible
That's what I was thinking. Tough to argue that anyone has accomplished more.
Watching this video for the second time a year later. Love what you do Brian, keep it up!
Even after you got sassy with me that one time. 🤣
>I'm surprised you didn't cut to DBry choking Justin Roberts with a tie when you referenced his release.
>I wonder if Jericho holds a position in the company due to that.
>I'm surprised DDPYoga didn't make an appearance. It has been touted as part of the career/physical resurrection of a lot of stars, from the well-known ones like Roberts and Hall to others citing it as helping them regain what they thought they'd lost due to years of injuries.
>Foley is another who deserves every accolade. Purely for the amount of shit he put his body through over the years. He's got enough of that everyman charisma that, even without all the spots, he'd have no doubt gotten over regardless.
>That is one way to describe wCw Rey. He's deserved a better hand than he's been dealt but he's managed to have a long storied career despite what wCw and WWE have tried to do to him.
>Was the Austin 3:16 commentary on camera or off-camera? Regardless, that honestly sounds like a great setup for a feud if you ask me. Austin going after Jarrett for attacking his catchphrase, Jarrett playing the proud religious man. On the TNA topic, he'd probably still be running it if Dixie Carter and his personal demons didn't get in the way.
Kenny Omega: Who are you?
DDP: I'm you but older.
Calling Jeff Jarrett an overachiever is hilarious. The most adversity he faced was trying to find any semblance of charisma and personality beyond calling people slapnuts and being a misogynist.
Dude was given opportunity after opportunity because of who he knew. He underachieved based on his opportunities received. I guess he overachieved based on his talent level?
I was thinking the same thing Jarret was literally born into the business with a silver spoon and was fed opportunity after opportunity and was still average to below average in everything. Maybe he over achieved in a business since but as a wrestler he under achieved big time.
20:29 Walking into your final exam after thoroughly studying.
20:33 25 minutes in, and then seeing a 250 word essay part.
Matt Hardy is, Quite Possibly, Amongst the Smartest Men in the Business
I fully expected this list to end with David Arquette, but I'm glad it didn't
Most accurate Top 8 in WWW history.
The left kneeeeeee kills me every time. Thanks, Zane.
Cody Rhodes went from a midcarder on WWE to international superstar to starting a critically acclaimed wrestling company of his own.
He's doing the Jeff Jarrett shtick, only bigger, better, and earlier.
1. You can't really call Santino Marella a "Jobber" especially if he was IC champion (he BECAME a jobber later,that's a different story) and you could put Honky Tonk Man in that category too. 2. You can put Becky Lynch on this list too, cause she was the "forgotten " member of the So-Called Four Horsewomen for the longest time AND she had that thick Irish accent which (as I've read) annoyed the hell out of Kevin Dunn people backstage thought that hindered her Marketability.She leaned into her inner Connor McGregor and has pretty much the biggest women's wrestling star in recent memory (and you know you're over,when they cheer you over the more mainstream RHONDA ROUSEY)
"Jarrett broke 6 thousand guitars and never drew a dime."
Damn that's cold
True too
Jarrett was "Must Change Channel" TV whenever he was on whether that was WWF or WCW
@Necroglobule He is 5'8 and called others midgets lol
Always excited to see a new upload. Love your content.
Having not watched the video and only seen the thumbnail, I would argue Jeff over Matt, and Miz better be number 1.
Way to sneak a Futurama reference into the video. Well played.
Any of the New Day, Cody Rhodes, Dustin Rhodes, and John Morrison/Nitro/whatever, are definitely honorable mentions
How did any of them bar Kofi overachieve?
How does Jeff Jarrett make the list? His dad literally ran a wrestling company, so he was born into the business, had a broad skill set which extended outside of the ring, and he had tons of connections.
Ummm Ric Flair? Broke his back twice and barely slowed down for thirty some years? How about Hulk Hogan? Came back from a Matsuda broken leg to invent Hulkamania, George Lucas the hell out of it, and cement pro wrestling in modern pop culture for multiple generations? I can't say that I LIKE those two guys, but they probably deserve mention among pro wrestling overachievers. I'd also be tempted to include Undertaker, best and most enduring character, and maybe even Shawn Michaels for longevity, bumps and overall ability.
I always thought that Jarrett's claim of Austin 3:16 as being "blasphemous" was no big deal, and the backlash was way overblown. Wrestlers talk smack on each other all the time.
One of the old school golden rules dont crap on someones gimmick and put them down in the way Jarret did Austin.
I give Triple H credit. He deserved to be champ......but he did go further then he deserved and its thanks to his marriage.
My biggest overachiever of all time is Bill Goldberg. There have been other men that have become stars primarily for their look, but none of them had the combination of crap ringwork and bland promos Bill possessed. And, somehow, he managed to turn that into a wildly popular career he sustains 22 years later. And he never learned how to wrestle. And he only ever cut 1 memorable promo. And people still go gaga over him.
So Brian is gonna get a gift from triple H this year for Hanukkah.
Probably a rabid animal, that way he can make his lyrics to his entrance song contest me true
yeah a sledgehammer
Hanukkah-ah!
@@davo312 that actually sounds like a good gift.
@@violagreene4643 okay that was a good one actually.
Man, All In feels like forever ago