"Beautopia" - Kate Moss Excerpt
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Excerpt from Katharina Otto-Bernstein's "Beautopia" featuring Kate Moss.
One of the favorite films at the 1998 Sundance Film Festival, winner of the Silver Hugo Award for excellence in the field of social/political documentary at the Chicago International Film festival and featured in the Women Directors Showcase on the Sundance Channel, BEAUTOPIA is still today the ultimate insider film of the modeling industry. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
“She has that quality of child-woman which touches the nerve with men”
Um? Am I the only one really grossed out about that 😭
I am!!!! Disgusting.
Wtf!?
so gross yeah
Oh you know those Roman Polanski types
They never grow up
🤮
i was about to write a comment about that and i saw yours
"Which tur- touches a nerve..." That U turn was amazing.
BelizeHunni I was just thinking the same thing 😂😂
I think he was going to say turns men on lol
@@Lulubelle_312 you mean "me" not "men"!
He should’ve said “turns men on.” Because “touching a nerve” sounds grosser and creepier. This world has a MAJOR pedo issue. I wonder how many out there struggle with this putrid disease...
@@thecalmingwitch and I wonder how much of that is this guy's fault..
He was going to say.. Kate has that women-child thing that turns men on, then he corrected himself and said touches a nerve.
I think the nerve line is more of the bigger picture which makes it more interesting
....his nerv 🤣🤣🤣
that is creepy
yeah
P e d o s
“Kate has that woman-child thing” because she was literally 17
Calvin Klein being a pedo lmao
Calvin Klein was super creepy I'm just now realising it
Using paedophilia as a market strategy is disgusting - i've never been one for fashion but seriously, F CK for exploiting KM at that impressionable age.
So fkn creepy! It’s because no one was pulled up for gross behaviour/comments until recently (since #metoo really). Noone would say that on camera now. They got away with that edge of peripheral paedophilia acting like it was “cool” and “edgy” 🤢
“…which touches a nerve with men especially, that’s um, always on the edge a little bit” said with a smirk YUCK! 🤢🤮 major creep
What is special about her are the eyes and the cheekbones. Very unique, beautiful face that doesn't even need make up...
no face "needs" makeup
Everyone's face, especially when you're older, "needs" makeup, in the sense that without it you look sickly. If you dont care about looking sickly and less than your best, sure, don't need anything. Pointless poilitical correctness.
She has a feline face her eyes are cat like!Stunning!
@@nivledamh like Vittoria Ceretti, they are beautiful
Nothing uniquely beautiful at all. She is strange looking. Like sid from ice age mixed with an alien.
Sexual predators have a 6th sense to detect innocence because they are terribly lacking of it themselves. And they can capitalize on this skills if working in fashion, yea fashion is the industry that gives you tones of props and moneys if you’re good at picking desirable children, sickk
couldn't have said it better
Exactly.
Ñßß
Wow brilliant insight
Nailed it!
She’s incredible. She was born into her aesthetic and she rocked it and still does to this day. She private, she holds her cards close to her chest.
She definitely carved out a niche for herself and made it work despite being 5'6 is considered to be one of the greatest and iconic models of all time which says a lot about her
Queen
Calvin Klein is a creep.
YAAASSSSSSS, QUEEN!!
@ElephantsLover ...did you watch the video?
Remember the Brooke Shields ad?
@@mulliganstew72 wtf they thought when they were putting it out it's just disgusting
Um, Calvin is very gay. He also treated all of models and staff well. He is just being candid about beauty and the fashion world.
Key words from Calvin Klein…”Child woman. Which touched a nerve with men especially. That’s always (pause, wiggling,, large grin) on the edge”… Yes, we totally understand what y’all were feeling on the edge with girls barely legal if legal at all (no smile) You DEFINITELY stimulated people.
So gross. The fact he said that on camera and could get away with it because of his name and because it's "art" and therefore morally neutral.....This is in part why the world is in disarray. A culture enabling the most evil things.
yea this is in apparent thing but the fact that he said it like that, like its not an extremly disturbing creepy disgusting thing to say at all, with no shame, just EUUW, horrible, Im glad people are reacting in the comments
I cringed so hard when I heard him say that and stopped watching right away. GROSS
She looks like a12 year old here. Then the guy calling her a sex symbol as well.
That was the creepiest thing I ever heard because he said it so casually like it's something he's comfortable with or it's the normal in his world.
She is unbelievably beautiful one of a kind face! Edgy yet so angelic and pure looking. Her eyes are out of this world mysterious. She almost could be considered unattractive but she isn’t. It’s so hard to pinpoint what makes her absolutely GORGEOUS! Perfect face for the 90’s. She changed fashion forever!
Agree Kate is definitely not conventionally or classically beautiful in the same way Christy Turlington or Tyra Banks was it's almost like you're not sure if she's pretty or ugly lol but it works 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Couldn’t have described her any better. She really is unbelievable
I think she is more beautiful than Christy Turlighton as well, she was the most beautiful for me. You could never say she is ugly is impossible 😂😂😂😂. She is definitely very beautiful 😍
@@Model_RoeI don't know what is a conventional beautiful women but her type of beauty is the most beautiful. I think she is as beautiful as Monica belluci😊
Oh to be blessed with a face like that
warriorprince101010 nope
warriorprince101010 that's as ridiculous as stating "All men are handsome" its just not true.
i once wanted to look like kate moss and noticed her eyes were far apart...so i shaved the fronts of my eyebrows a bit to make my eyes look further apart :0 it did not have the desired affect haha. they grew back though thankfully
DereMemo damn no need to be rude 😒
All women are pretty to somebody who loves them. Whose mother is ugly?
A surreal beauty - what’s s so fascinating is that you can’t quite work out what exactly makes her so beguiling - is it purely those cheekbones ?
Her features if taken alone are not the most beautiful but as a whole the effect is incredible!
Anne Loughlin her eyes they are catlike and yes her cheekbones skin big lips 👄 as a whole make for a stunning face imo!
She has a great face. Growing up, my mother always said that Mia Farrow (who my sister is named after) and Mary Travers (from the folk group “Peter, Paul, and Mary”) had “great faces.” I myself named my oldest after Kate Moss for the same reason. Why not? Mia, Mary, and Kate have very unique and stunning faces.
There’s something so fresh and innocent about her. Very ethereal.
She looks like a child and woman just like Bardot
its her cheekbones its her whole "cool-without-even-trying" vibe
I look at Kate's body now and wonder what the controversy was - models these days are SO MUCH thinner then she ever was. We really have become a society of extremes - never have we all been so obese and overweight, and never have our models been tipped so far into underweight. I think the two are related and the bigger we become, the more and more we desire and idolise thinness.
I wouldnt say so much thinner. But they are about the same. Lol. And she was the model that brought back that extremely thin model trend. Before her you could be a bit bigger and walk the runways.
Maybe the models now look a lot thinner because they are taller than kate moss
So true. I had a body slightly smaller than Kate’s almost all of my teen years, even after puberty. I was naturally thin and ate whatever. It’s so silly and lame that people, especially heavier set people, can’t simply believe or fathom some people are just naturally thin. Which is how Kate got scouted in the first place. And I do believe models like Kaia Gerber (at the height of her eating disorder in like 2018) are so much thinner than Kate was in the 90s.
@@miwfreak4312 true ⭐ it's the height with the same low weight
@@daisyduke4640 for tall girls it's very hard to put on weight, especially at 16,17 when they usually cast them
The 80s and early 90s were pretty gross about these young models (I mean showbiz was always kinda gross about kids - look at Judy Garland). I think Brooke Shields has talked about how she was considered a 'thing' and sexualized in the public eye pretty early. Drew Barrymore's whole pubescent life is sort of a horror story considering she was drinking and going to Studio 54 when she was like 10 or 11. Even Corey Feldman/Haim talked about it. But if we're being pedantic about the context of 'thing' here I think he meant it like the phrase 'pretty young thing', which is a fairly common phrase (although...come to think of it, it was popularized by a Michael Jackson song). Calvin Klein's whole 90s aesthetic was fairly creepy though, not something I noticed when I was younger. To me they just seemed like the cool older (because I was a kid) fresh faced kids. You get older and realize a lot of them were teenagers when they were writhing around seductively. In another interview Kate says that photographers always wanted her to take her clothes off, despite the fact that she used to hate her body.
being YOUNG doesn't mean you are a CHILD sheesh!
@@09355974180 I think they mean not fully grown up, in this context at least.
100%. It's disgusting. Children deserve to live their childhood in peace and protection from the sickness of the wealthy pedos and exploiters. We have had and continue to have serious issues as a society with fetishising youth to a pedophilic degree.
@@09355974180 eww. No. Being a teenager is still being a child and children need and deserve care and protection.
@@ameliel8792 I think you have forgotten what a teenager is 😐 obviously they are not children anymore
3:16 he was really flirting with her
...and it was disgusting.
..
I Am the resurrection and the life
She started working for CK when she was 19, so she's probably in her early 20s here. Disgusting that a young man flirt with an adult super model, huh?
Justin that’s what I was gonna say
@@CheeseBae wasn't she 17 here?
Yalda W she was 17 when she begin working with ck
The guy interviewing her bit his lip when she called him a sex symbol. He was totally admiring her.
Anyone know who that was? She said he was a sex symbol, but I've never seen him before.
@@kristen50001 he was a British tv presenter - name began with k I think
@@kristen50001 just remembered his name - I'm pretty sure its Vernon Kaye.
Yeah I noticed that too
@@kristen50001 He's subtitled as Daniel de La Falaise and the model on the other side of Kate is his sister, Lucy de La Falaise.
Her voice is just so beautiful, love her !
The Jean-Michel Basquiat painting in the background is to die for!
Is it really?
omg I was thinking the SAME THING I thought I was the only one who noticed it omg I saw it and was like ugh I wish I had that basquiat painting in my house
Kate has A+ facial structure. Those cheekbones, jawline, eyebrows, forehead, chin etc. Also her gorgeous eyes.
She's so adorable, he's right, there's nothing fake about her. Lovely South London accent too
The first time that I’d seen her live, face to face was at a Bella Freud fashion show, backstage. It was the mid 90’s and she was in the runway cast along with Jodie Kidd, Sophie Dahl, Jasmine Guinness, Ines Sastre and some more well known models of their times. She looked even more petite and fragile to the naked eye however her aura was much taller and larger than anybody else in that room, plus she had a very warm and sweet way of communicating with people. 90’s=Kate Moss
Well said., her aura’. I had to look it up the word aura
Her facial structure is just perfect, and love her nose! Her bubbly personality and accent just make her so intriguing, she really is one of the greatest models of all time. My other fave was Bridget Hall
child-woman??? eww
Kate may not be tall, her teeth aren't straight and she doesn't have legs that go on for miles, but: she has that indescribable x-factor that transcends on film with eyes and cheekbones not seen more than once or twice in decades. The camera adores her and that's what matters.
Agree her star power has nothing to do with her beauty I think she was something different and fit into that whole aesthetic of the nineties
I love her legs , very sexy. She had great figure in comparation with other models who don't even have waist. She was definitely the pretties of all.😊
Her voice is precious 💘
what he's saying is awful - child woman thing! thats bizarre.
I have always admired Kate Moss through the years (I’m just a bit younger) and my daughter Kate is named after her. She has the greatest face I have ever seen. Just stunning. I’m still a fan ❤️
Why the hell he calls a 'thing'?! He couldn't objectify her more obviously
She has one of the prettiest faces ever!
CK skated a bit close to the edge there, sign of the times- which were creepy and openly exploiting women and girls- it's a wonder how great Kate was able to get through all that muck and maintained her sense of self inspite of it. So gracefully. Beauty and x factor - that was all her own- no one else made her!
She is so beautiful.....a total LEGEND
Long live fashion icon Kate Moss..beautiful
Naomi Campbell in this LOL. Love Kate and Naomi ❤️
I met her in person in 1995. Trust me, she was the most stunning person I had ever seen. She was doing a small book signing. Everyone was just staring at her. I don't see that kind of beauty today. It's like the world turned trashy or something. 😆😂
"The world turned trashy or something" I cackled 😂
Beautiful is about surgery today . Natural beauty like her is hard to find.
Oh my kate moss is soooo gorgeous!!!!!!
she reminds me Winona on many occasions in this vid, especially when shes smiling at 3:06
she is soooooooooo sweet!!!
thank you for uploading this. I'm a huge fan of Kate Moss and just love this video
Sweet and real. So beautiful, Kate.
"init"
"Model should be thin, and clothes look better on thin" - when people could actually say the truth without the whole world attacking them.
Yes models SHOULD be thin. And yes clothes look better on thin ppl that's a truth. I am slim and when I buy a new outfit people ask me (even irrelevant people on street, supermarket) where I bought it from. This body type sells the clothes. And I'm not a model now I was doing tho some modelling in past
+joeruffin This idea was heavily ingrained for you to believe this. If the fashion industry would've started with bigger women in the first place, it would be the opposite. Truthfully, it isn't about women at all. Designers profit, and bigger clothes = having to spend more money. This idea sprung up from the 1950-1960's were models were slightly thicker. But now the idea of "looking better = skinny" is a money scheme and you sir, fell for it.
To say that it is "nature" is untrue. It has a lot to do with culture. For example, Black American men prefer their women to be thicker, while White American men prefer them thinner. Centuries ago, European men also preferred heavier women, as it was seen as a sign of wealth and status.
In the 90s, having a flat butt was considered the height of beauty(by white americans). You weren't truly "thin" (i.e. desirable) if you had a big butt. Today, however, almost everyone accepts that a bigger butt is most desirable. That's not nature, that is culture.
calafeast a lot of people these days love bigger butts and in the 90s I don't believe it was that big. Maybe still in black culture but now I feel like it has spread. Most men who I talk to these days prefer girls with thin waste, yet a nice sized booty. White and black men alike. At least from my experience. The fashion world still pushes for very thin women but our culture is definitely celebrating that body type as well. So I definitely agree that it's a cultural thing. I think that you are little prejudice tho since you capitalized on black/white women when this never really was about race but body type. You also implied that white is high class and black is not. You may not agree, but I think it's pretty obvious and that you should reflect. Because it's becoming less and less acceptable! Anyway, I've noticed while watching porn that the women aren't size 0. They are not fat either and are definitely still thin but not model like thin. Which I think shows that men are at least liking that as well. Nevertheless, I do think that thin people wear clothes very well. And are perfect for the modelling industry. Its just clear to me tho that culture has a lot to do with our beauty standards.
calafeastThat's really shallow of you. Yore very shallow.
“Kate has that child woman thing which touches a nerve with men”
Boy, that statement hasn’t aged well.
Now her face and cheek bones are the new beauty trend 😌
1.08 - wildly inappropriate beast.
1.11 - he goes to say "turns men on" but instead said "touches a nerve..."
CREEP
YAAASSSSSSS, QUEEN!!
He must have known that people would understand what "touches a nerve" meant 🤦♀️. But no he just acting like nothing happened
Kate ❤️
I can't help but notice she's sitting in front of an original Basquait and no one noticed.
2:25 i freaking love her.
God the fashion world is so amoral! He's so casual about saying men like women who look like children-wtf! And then yeah so matter of fact about clothes looking better on people who are thin. No fucking sense of responsibility!! Millions of girls look at these photos.
Kate Moss has always striked me more of an edgy woman, not /cute/adorable type like much. She might have some typical features that are common among women with such faces, but she is one example that show that there are no specific rules. Madonna is also an example of a face that could have some such features, yet she does not have that girly or cute face at all.. She is also more of an edgy/rock-chic type of woman, not the cute/adorable type. Sometimes it just seem that some label people based on features that can mean different things to different people. Usually you just know this by intuition, even if there are more general rules that usually apply, but not always. Also a face can change from time to time and be affected by things like exhaustion, illness etc. Miranda Kerr has more of an obvious cute/adorable type of face, but I would not call it child-like. Women are just different and they do not need to be given labels like child-like or badass or whatever label they pick. Let women be allowed to just be the way they are without having to discuss every tiny thing. Women are different and men like different things. No need or any purpose to try to force everyone into being the same or trying to push men to like the same. Just accept that everyone is different and like different things.
I agree. Moss is boss. She is a powerhouse in a tiny, fragile-looking body, but she gives off a grand aura.
None of my male friends find her sexually attractive but every one of my girlfriends love her. She’s just got style.
I don't believe she is a more beautiful and prettier women than kate. She was the most beautiful model on the runway 😍.
The only true I see that she is extremely beautiful the rest are no point.😂
“There’s nothing about her that’s fake”.
This is true including her personality and spirit. She never hid her brash Croydon heritage. Or pretended to be someone else (off camera).
Would she make it in the modelling/influencer world today? She doesn’t come from money, she’s not a celebrity type (very private), and most importantly she’s no artificial or doctored.
I would say no. Because, Kate is the perfect example of someone who embodies a certain time and place (like Twiggy). That grungy/indie laidback-romantic period of the 90’s was in full swing on both sides of the pond. She’s kinda punk meet’s aristocracy. Club kid and princess. Alien and at the same time familiar. Brassy and delicate. Just here her speak and all will be revealed.
I don’t agree with the child-woman analogy as this is a warped projection by an American man (hetro then, gay later). One can look at Kate beyond the gender performance.
Compared to the top “models” of today she’s a dream.
So beautiful!
Она прекрасна!
Woman child thing 🤮🤮 Calvin is gross the way he sexualises young women and thinness, the beauty industry is so toxic, I hope things have changed since then
He didnt mean it that way
@@hsd287 Then why he said about touching a nerve of men and stimulating imagination thing ? He meant it and that’s totally disgusting.
@@hsd287lol he wouldn’t have said this sh*t to a grown adult woman because it’s disrespectful and creepy.
I love her.
I appreciate her beauty, its sad the world exploits people's unique elements, nonetheless she has made tons of money, and has secured her kids futures for sure.
what makes me laugh about the press/ media when it comes to models is that most models are discovered when they are still children, many haven't even turned 18 when scouted. Kate was 14 so of course she would have been naturally very skinny but she got accused of being 'too thin', then accused of heroin chic, then whatever else, when its the stylists,make-up artists and whoever else plays a key role in the image making process that are responsible for images. The public are left to interpret the image how they want but its interesting how many allow themselves to be dictated to, and influenced by, the press.
best of all time
Putting aside the slip up of “turns men on” because everyone has already mentioned it but the way she giggled at the idea of being a sex symbol… god she was still just a kid, like she was so innocent
If this interview is from 1998, then she was already 24 years old.
She's so pretty
she is down to earth
His comment about a child-woman touching a nerve, and saying "clothes just look better on people who are thin" would end his career in our current "cancel culture". In the 90's he could say what he was really thinking without fear of repercussion. In this case, I'm not sure if that's good or bad!
It's always good. It's better that people say what they think because that means they can be challenged.
I was just thinking the same thing! Lol I bet if he ever sees this interview again he would cringe! Lol
@starlight angel🌌🫐 No, that's a comment of someone who simply states the truth without sugar-coating it. I'm not a creep and nor hate women when I say that men are *generally* biologically wired to be attracted to young women who emanate physical innocence and frailty (submission) as well as to signs of fertility (wider hips and medium-big chest). Kate didn't emanate much of the latter, but a *lot* of the first, hence why his statement.
There is a reason why most men indulging in porn prefer watching young women who have a cute face expressing looks of submission and words of such, as well as having a delicate hourglass figure.
Truth sucks and hurts, I know.
It's good.
the child-woman thing was creepy and gross but him saying clothes look better on people who are thin is a 100% correct
She’s so cute
ok but he literally called her a “thing”
i Like her accent❤❤❤
queen!
Stunning,🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
How disgusting can this guy be but honestly he is right. It's 2022 and look at male perverts that get busted everyday getting rocks on with children. I can't only image what she went through on this industry back then smh.
*rocks off
Amber Valletta at 2:31, sigh...She's the only one of them who can still, at the age of 46, be seen in fashion magazines...
I like how at 1:42, the interviewers are being all pretentious and she's just like, "Please, stop with the bullshit." Then she answers them like a normal person. Hahaha. Funny.
Es tan hermosa
Cool. Great work.
“Yeah she’s thin but clothes look better on thin people. Models should be thin. It just fits better.”
WTF CALVIN
Thats it
I agree with him. You can see the cut and shape of the garment better when there are no lumps and bumps on the body.
@@The_torero yes, you can see every cut and shape better
He's not wrong. Nowadays there's a lot of variety in the model industry, but thin models most of the time rock the clothes way better.
hes not wrong
Not all clothes look better on thin people. Some clothes look better on people with curves, some clothes look better on people with muscles. And besides many fashion industry folks view objectively healthy/thin people as fat, and then view objectively underweight/unhealthy people as thin. Goes to show that perception is often subjective...
Kate was never unhealthily thin.... It was the media who made this.. I saw worse looki g girls than kate in termsof BONES PROTRUDING
In their case perception is mostly warped. They pushed the androgyny look, because most of the designers were gay. They hate women and try to make them look like young boys.
@@yoya4766 Actually in the beginning, before men worked in fashion, thin women where chosen as well, to draw attention to the clothes, not the curves. They also picked tall women then, as they were able to showcase longer garments. So it's not because of gay men that female models are thin, at least not historically.
@@clapbangrun2200 And when was that?
lmao cry about it fattie
This is hilarious to watch 30 years later and which everything happening in the media.
Omg It has been thirty years 😫😫
Whatever Calvin says in this interview would be so not PC now!!😆😆 "childness that touches the nerve of men", " the clothes look better on slim models ".. etc...
That’s absolutely Kate Moss.
Beautyyy😍😍😍🤩🤩
Gosh! She looks so young here. And IS so young. You can see the gaucheness, the innocence, the unaffectedness. The modeling world can be so predatory. She’s nothing like today’s young ones.
Has someone found the streaming online? full film?
The fact that female interviewer is equally pretty
Amazingly Beautiful
Kate mots is a real goddess.Whats her secret?
I mean...genetics, obviously. There's no secret.
One of a kind.
Very beautiful cool And sophistivated
She’s perfect
She's a child. Woman. Thing..?
Nowdays thin women feels uncomfortable because off all these Kardashians. Wake up people! Kate Moss is a true model! And she looks so fresh and natural. She doesn't have too big lips and too huge eyebrows, or too big fake ass. I feel sick while watching all these modern "models"
+M9482 everything you said is on point
nope everyone is beautiful no matter the size or what
Yeah how do you think chubby or curvy women felt in the nineties? shut up
It's true, many women today base their looks on porn culture. Oversized lips, tits, ass, fake hair, lashes, nails. Artificiality.
it's the complete opposite end of the scale; kate moss being "anorexic" and "too thin" and the kardashians having "fake curves" and "unrealistic proportions". in the end no one wins
As far as Calvin saying she has this child like woman thing that men go crazy for, this is true with a lot of men. From my observation a lot of them like the Lolita type of woman. Even in books and film and tv I've seen these type of women desired and make guys go crazy. Idk why but that statement is true.
x1990x innocence maybe that translate in youthful spirit?!
it is indeed:)
“kate has that quality of child-women” maybe because she was like 16 she was a child..
Which turns… ahem touches a nerve. What a perv.
You look at Kate, her face, and how amazing she looks and then compare it to the likes of the women on Only Way is Essex.....
looks like a good film
What that Calvin dude says is so disturbing 😳
anos 90.
Take me back to the 90's!! These days the majority of popular models are not humble, thankful or talented whatsoever. What they are is ungrateful, rich from birth and family heritage, bitchy and fake (personality and physically). So frustrating when people claim gigi and kendall to be SUPERmodels
Kathy Sydney
Kathy Sydney calm down
Calm down. Not all the models were kind and humble, many only acted like that in front of the cameras. Now the internet exists, so it's much easier to find out about the bad attitudes of celebrities. And why would you want to go back to a time when anorexia and other eating disorders were common and even considered "beautiful"?
I miss the 90’s
Legend face
She doesnt even sound stupid in this video. You're being a bit too quick to judge I think.
1:41 Lucie De La Falaise (sitting next to Kate, on the right) is married to Marlon Richards, the son of Keith Richards
0:23 never seen or heard Calvin Kline before.