Yes! BSG Reboot is one of the better remakes and upgrades. While it was still airing, a friend of mine who is a die-hard SciFi geek and his wife who absolutely hates all things SciFi were watching it. She was in the room working on hobbies at first, and then slowly, she took over and BSG became -- her -- show, and because her husband kept trying to talk about the sci fi elements, she banished him from the room when the new episodes were on because "he was interrupting HER show." Best SciFi show until The Expanse.
Great reactions for a great series. FYI. In the scene where Laura is getting her cancer diagnosis, Serenity is flying by in the window. It is hard to see, but it is there.
You asked why the guy was running with his books and said that he should leave them. He's running with them because he understands human civilization is ending and he's trying to save some part of their past in case anyone survives. It's why you see people running into burning libraries or museums. They're trying to save a piece of humanity. That one shot of him trying to save the books is the most haunting image of the miniseries to me.
And while I 1) absolutely agree with your sentiment (and have told people essentially the same thing myself when they ask about that) 2) value, as I call them, "dead tree versions" of books... c'mon man, tell me you have a thumb drive chock pull of ebooks in your pocket and those half dozen are just the extra special ones...
@@Sephiroth144 I hear that, but you have to remember even in our society not everything is digitized. I just had to buy a bootlegged DVD of a show that is no longer available to stream and was never put on physical media. Those might have been the only copies in existence (or maybe first editions or something). I'm just saying that I 100% get why the guy prioritized the books. Honestly I commend the guy for it.
@@mikehunt534 As I said, I agree; although, I DEFINITELY don't back up stuff that's hard to find, including scanning/digitizing things myself... (Granted, I might be a little paranoid, but hey, MAYBE he shoulda been too and prepared more- just in case =p)
Makes sense. But....live first, then see if you can salvage our species memories and knowledge. Everyone else is going to outrun him (except for the guy on crutches).
@@RamblersInc Of course, good chance he (and most of them) were running vaguely in that direction (away from "good targets", i.e., cities/military installation (they new about) before they saw the Raptor) When you're "heading to the hills", you're not really planning on doing any return trips.
To be clear, Baltar was tempted to take the paper from the old woman when Helo recognized him. Feeling exposed he went for the first diversion he could think of, announcing that the lady had the number.
The Cylons might remind you of the KITT car from Knight Rider, but clearly, in 1982, they stole the moving red LED eye thing from the original Cylons in the 1978 Battlestar Galactica. So in reality the cylons are reminding you of the original cylons.
Something that is missed by many, especially outside of the US, is the look of the swearing in of President Roslin. The scene is setup to mimic the swearing in of Lyndon Johnson on Air Force One after the assassination of Kennedy. The show used a lot of real world events and politics to influence the look and the plot.
Fun fact: Lyndon Johnson had a copy of the swearing in BEFORE they heard that JFK was assassinated. The person swearing him in said they didn't remember the whole oath by heart, and Johnson immediately handed them his copy from his suit pocket.
I know a lot of fans think like this, but i disagree. You can tell by the suprised expression on her face when that happened, and it proves she didn't know the the baby was that fragile.
Fab reaction to Part 1 gents and welcome to the world of Battlestar Galactica. As another commenter said, this is a natural follow up to The Expanse and your great reactions for that series. Each decade has at least one great sci fi show with an arc story and BSG will take you on one heck of a ride. You'll grow to love this family of characters, the lore, and the journey ahead. Looking forward to your great reactions !
Ooh! Ooh! Yesss! This show is amazing. You guyys have got to watch the entire thing, even if it's not for TH-cam. This is one of my all-time favorite shows. It makes you feel ALL the feelings, and makes you really have to think about what you would do or how you would feel in their shoes. I watched this when it was new and I still don't have the answer to some of those questions that I asked myself. Edit: you may want to turn the audio up on the show. There's a lot of very quiet conversations that take place, and in comparison, if we have to turn it up to hear what's going on, you'll basically be shouting at us.
To explain terminology, the Galactica is a Battlestar (type), of the Jupiter class (this is never mentioned in the show). Battlestar is the equivalent to battleship + aircraft carrier. She's the last battlestar from the first Cylon war still in service, with a prestigious story back then. Retiring her would've been a historic event. The end of an era. And the Cylons really made sure that day wold be the end of an era. I often wonder if they picked the day forthe attack to coincide with the decomissioning of that ship. It's worth mentioning that one of the creators, Ronald D Moore, was an ensign in the US Coast Guard before becoming a tv writer, and that training shows.
Battlestar Galactica is one of those "Television Golden Age" shows like The Sopranos, Mad Men, Dexter and The Wire. It stands up today as among the best science fiction shows ever made. Battlestar, above all, is about the emotional journey of the characters. The plot sometimes wanders, but the characters are always true to their identities. It is one of the most brutally emotional shows ever written. And let me emphasize, it is brutal. It's hard to believe that it gets so dark. Not many shows actually have the courage to go there. But the end result is Fracking amazing. The finale to this long journey is brilliant.
26:51 It’s this moment of stoic heroism that made Helo a fan favorite character. Don’t know if I could have done the same. Showrunner Ronald D. Moore said that when he went to sci-fi conventions after the miniseries a recurring question he was asked was “So what happened to Helo?”
Great to see you two moving on to BSG. I watched the original series when it first aired back in 1978. This keeps the concepts and characters but IMO blows the original away (pun intended). It's both character and story driven and does an excellent job with subverting expectations on both. It does get quite dark at times - Ron Moore (worked on Star Trek TNG, DS9 and Voyager ) wanted to get away from the sanitized world of Trek and came up with this along with David Eick (Hercules and Xena). It's one of the few sci-fi series that made me laugh and tear up in a single episode, and it did it many times. I'll be with you for the duration - I hope you stick it out to the end; I don't think you'll be disappointed. Thanks!
OH BOY I'm excited! Two of my favorite reactors and one of my favorite TV shows of all time!!! Your Expanse reactions were wonderful and YES since you loved the Expanse you will definitely love this show! If you keep in mind it's early 2000s and the budget was relatively small, it's even more impressive. Looking forward to this!
Another channel reacting to BSG, most excellent. Subbed and looking forward to more! :) Fun fact: The scene where Laura Roslin becomes President of the Twelve Colonies was modeled after President Lyndon B. Johnson's inauguration on board of Air Force One after the assassination of JFK.
This will be a lot of fun. I'm surprised you didn't notice the Serenity cameo on Caprica. I believe it's during the doctor visit with Secretary Roslin.
In space relative motion will remain the same as long as no force counters it. So when they spin they can keep going in the last direction they were moving while facing another direction.
If you guys decide to do the entire series, please keep in mind that it is really VERY important to avoid any spoilers for this show. Even looking up characters can reveal major spoilers.
Side note: This show has the best music score for any TV show ever. The composer is Bear McCreary. It's unique and beautiful, and gets better and better every season. The finale score is a magnum opus of all the themes throughout the whole series.
@@AL-fl4jk Indeed; to be a true side note he'd have to say "One of the greatest TV scores", not singularly the best. (Its pretty well established as being one of the best TV scores composed- whether its *the best* or not is an opinion.)
I retract what I said in an earlier comment on your channel: you've picked up some amazing shows and films to react to, and I'm coming around to your choices. Especially when they're as excellent as The Expanse, The Good Place, Community, and Battlestar Galactica. As a child of the 80s, I appreciated you catching the red Cylon eye / KITT reference: Glen A. Larsen created both the original Battlestar Galactica and then Knight Rider. This is a reboot (re-imagining) of the 70s show, so the main characters all carry over from the original-albeit with several changes that other commenters will undoubtedly discuss ad nauseam (though hopefully not until you've shared the second half of the miniseries). "What kind of damn show is this?!" Oh, sweet summer child. We're just getting started. 🤣
@@RamblersInc Not a continuation per se, just telling the same basic story in a new way. The reboot showrunners have their own themes and plotlines that they choose to follow, but the basic setup and most of the major characters all come from the original show. Ronald D. Moore, one of the show runners, had worked on Star Trek extensively and part of the ethos of BSG is his reaction to that style of sci-fi narrative, especially Star Trek: Voyager. In Voyager, nothing ever sticks because the "reset button" is always hit at the end of each episode. Not so here! (Or in much modern TV.) Also, remember that the miniseries premiered in 2003, so the September 11 attacks were pretty fresh. The concept of "the enemy could be anyone / the Cylons look like us now" is absolutely a theme that this show wants to explore. It wasn't part of the original series. There's probably a little nostalgia factor with the old vipers and "chrome toaster" Cylon models you see from time to time-even the original show's theme song is worked in a few times as the Colonial theme (which played during the miniseries' "air show" fly-by). So the reboot definitely uses elements from the original show, and commenters will likely mention them when they happen. To say more would involve spoilers... 🤐 lol. Anyway, another great reaction! Thanks!
@@RamblersInc Remember how Six told Baltar her body would be destroyed in the initial attack but her personality would be reborn in another body? It’s true they get uploaded into a fresh new identical body with all of their thoughts and memories intact. Cylons are ultra religious and the attack on the Colonies is driven by their faith. So if you take the concept of a single final death out of the equation, what else would a person be willing to do for their beliefs? We already see what people will do in the real world knowing they won’t come back.
How did they adopt such a belief system? Or is that spoilery? I keep picturing Arnie from Terminator believing in a religion and it's not working in my head 😂
@@RamblersInc Oddly, she is far from the Moby Dick's Starbuck character. MB Starbuck was loyal, calm, reasonable and tried to convince Ahab to let go of his obsession with the white whale.
1:27, oh yes the Last Supper analogy is very much intentional. This show will dip a lot into questions of humanity, mortality and spirituality. But it's not what you think it is is. The ending of this series is mind blowing. Nuff said.
"What kind of damn show is this?" LOL! Welcome to BSG guys. Right up there with The Expanse as one of the greatest sci-fi series ever. I've seen it end-to-end about six times, including twice on other reaction channels. The show's themes are thought-provoking. The writing, character arcs, and acting are superb. The musical score is amazing. The special effects are excellent for their time. And the showrunners are bound and determined to subvert your expectations at every turn. Things are not what they seem, and the end is not what you expect. Just one word of advice: pay close attention to the details or you'll risk misunderstanding important aspects of the story, especially in the final season. Enjoy the ride!
Great choice, guys. BSG is great space shit. Cgi is a wee bit murky sometimes but otherwise aged well. After this two-part miniseries, fan response was so strong that a series was greenlit. There's a couple of minor changes but nothing drastic, you'll see as you go.
Looking forward to Part 2. You will definitely enjoy the show and it is worth your time. Show has excellent characters and excellent acting. Gaius Balter is certainly a fun trip.
I'm so glad that you selected this for your next show! I had left after Firefly, but now I'm back for BSG! I hope that you consider doing more than one episode a week for this one!
This show is amazing. Almost every character brings there A game when acting. A great show that touches on every thing. A drama that touches on every thing call it religion, drama, sci fi, etc. and to think it came out 20 years ago right after 9/11 it timed it so you will find yourself drawing a lot of comparisons to it. A good show that has a complete ending to it as well. It has 4 very good seasons without overdoing a show pas it its prime.
The original Battlestar Galactica show was created by Glen Larson, who also created Knight Rider, which is why the Cylon "optics" have the same scanning action as that of KITT.
one of the greatest series ever made - and I don't just mean the fantastic series. the actors, the script, the music.. everything here is of the highest quality. I'll stop before I give away any spoilers! on to part 2!! 📴
Real Newtonian physics - you are expecting the ships to fly like planes, but nope. Think The Expanse, until you apply thrust and impart acceleration into a new direction, your ship will keep on moving in the last direction it was moving. And facing is immaterial, except you can only apply thrust/acceleration to the ship's aft.
@@RamblersInc I bought the DVDs with the intent of finishing it (and S2 and S2.5, or something like that), so it was engaging enough. It was just one thing or another, and now it's decades later and, well, here we are. (If you are into boardgaming, there's a pretty great game on the series.)
I am so glad you guys are doing this show, its an amazing sci-fi show ( imho the best sci-fi ever made ). I feel like this is right up your alley, you guys always have a meaningful conversation about the episodes and this show is perfect for that. Really well written, very complex characters and nobody's perfect. There will be characters with arcs that will blow your mind becasue it just keep on giving and it will change how you view them a few times. Think of Amos in the Expanse. How it started and where it ended. I want to give you a quick rundown on stuff but I promise there will be NO SPOILERS regarding any character arcs or storyline, only some context about the BSG universe that comes handy going forward. Most of this is from other media ( wiki, games, other BSG content ) and some will be mentioned in the show later but its mostly technical data. And will address some of your questions as well. It's gonna be long though lol. The tech in the show is grounded in reality, except a few things like their FTL ( Faster than light ) drive which is needed to serve the story, their artifical gravity on the ships, and some of the Cylon techs. The 12 colonies of Kobol ( you will learn more of their history later ) are 12 habitable planets in a Star System called Cyrannus. They were named after the 12 astrological signs. ( Picon = Pices, Scorpia = Scorpion, Caprica = Capricorn, etc... ) There are some ships that dont have FTL drive because it was not needed, mostly luxury passenger liner cruising in the system between the worlds, some industrial haulers and other utility ships. Battlestarts are the core of the fleet, they are the main frontline ships with other combat and support ships around them forming a Battlegroup ( BSG = Battlestar Group ). The Galactica ( BSG 75) is an old ship, one of the first 12 Battlestars ( one for each colony, Galactica represented Caprica ) rushed into service during the First Cylon War. A Battlestar is a carrier and battleship hybrid, with a large complement of Vipers, heavy armor and armament. The Galactica supposed to carry 160 Vipers, but her starboard flightpod was turned into a museum so she has only half of that. Many of them were destroyed in the first wave of the attack using Baltar's CNP ( Command Navigation Program). There are no shields, lasers, phasers, or any fancy sci-fi stuff, they use projectile weapons ( like a tank or a navy ship nowadays ) with 2 types of shells. A simple impact fused shell that explodes when hits something ( this is the anti-ship ammunition ) and timed fuse that explodes after a certaion flight time, creating a wall of exploding fire and shrapnel thus covering an area from incoming missiles and small craft. You haven't seen them yet becasue the Galactica was about to be decomissioned and her armory is empyty thats why they're so desperately looking for an ammunition depot. They also have different missiles including nukes. Battlestars have very heavy armoring on the ships ( I'm talking meters thick layers ) so they can take hits for an extended period of time giving them a good survivability in battles and allowing them to take many hits and survive nukes. Some stats for the ship. Its crewed by approx. 2900 people ( its designed to run with 5k people, a full complement of marines included ) but it was about to retire so they removed a lot of ammunition and fuel from it, converted the starboard flight pod into a museum and half of her small crafts was also removed. Even before the current events she was in for a big refit and they removed much of her armor, about 3/4 of her primary guns and a lot of her point defense weaponry, but make no mistake, she is still a very powerful warship. Here are the stats: Length: 4719.95ft (1438.64m) Width: 1761.29ft (536.84m) Height: 601.43ft (183.32m) Armaments: ~514x dual point-defense CIWS 24x primary guns ( Battlestar Artillery ) ~12x missile tubes
1x active flight pod 1x active flight deck, 617m (2,025 ft) 40x Viper Launch Tubes ( can launch 40 Vipers at once with those magnetic accelerators ) She has computer networks on board but they are isolated blocks separated from each other. Imagine systems like the Life Support computers, they are networked but they dont talk to the Navigation, Propulsion or Tactical networks. The CIC ( Combat Information Center ) is as the name suggests the center of the tactical and other information. Since it has no windows it doesnt have a traditional bridge like Navy Warships. It has an elevated area above the CIC which serves as the bridge but they are mostly in the CIC. - Raptors are small support craft designed as VIP transport for the fleet, and a very versatile recon ship with an excellent EWAR suite that can scout for fleets or go along with vipers to support them with EWAR during fights. There are more heavily armed variants with missile pods that can strike larger ships. - Vipers are the primary defense of the fleet against small craft and as you can see often used for missile defence. - Cylon Basestar It's the Cylon's version of the Carrier-Battleship hybrid though not as armored as Battlestars. You didnt see much of them becasue the were split up between all the colonies and military installations and they didnt need much thanks to Baltar's CNP, an operating system used by both the navy and the civilian fleet. Most Battlestars and Vipers had it, though there was a few that were commissioned earlier that did not get that update yet. Those ships were either being scheduled to be decomissioned like the Galactica or were due to go in a refit and upgrade in one of the shipyards. This is the software the Cylons used to ( thanks to 6, the blond woman you've seen with Baltar ) get their virus past the firewalls and disable the Colonial ships. This made their attack so devastating because the Colonial Navy was unable to fight back. Height: 869.98ft (265.17m) Armaments: 220 nuclear, conventional, and ballistic missile tubes 434 Cylon Raiders
The ranks in their military is exactly like nowadays navy. The Flag officers on top ( Admirals, Rear Admirals ), they are often have operational command of a Battlestar Group, Commanders which are basically Commanding officers of Battlestars or other military vessels, Colonel, Liutenant Colonel, Major, Captain, Liutenant, Ensing, Cadet. William Adama is a Commander in command of the Galactica, his 2nd in command ( XO, Executive Officer which is not a rank its a title or assingment ) is Colonel Saul Tigh. The Chief ( Galen Tyrol ) is an NCO ( Non comissioned Officer ), he is in charge of the maintanance crew that maintains and repairs the spacecrafts, handling ammunitions, etc. He served on many Battlestars before ( Columbia, Atlantia, and Pegasus ) and he is a very experienced NCO. Helo ( Carl Agathon ) is Boomer's ECO ( Electronic Countermeasures Officer ) his job is to handle the ECM suite and other sensors on the Raptor and taking off other workload from the pilot in tense situations. This show came out 2 years after 911 and it had an obvious effect on it. Those 80 people working on DC ( Damage Control ) might as well be firefighters in the WTC. Tigh had to make a difficult call there but ultimately it was the right one. The ship got hit by a nuke, the fire was spreading means they were losing control of it. In space they have the luxury to vent the air to space thus instantly stopping fires. If the fire reaches certain critical compartments ( FTL fuel, ammo storage, ) it will casue a catastrophic explosion and they lose much more than 80 peoples. There are 2700 peoples aboard. If it explodes they will lose most of those people. In combat you often have bad, worse and a very bad choice to choose from. You have to choose the best of those. The worst kind of leader is the one who cant or wont make a choice. That person will get a lot of people killed. You could see him hesitating for a moment but making the call. Thats what leaders do. They make the call hoping it was the right one because they have to live with it. Good leaders feel that weight. It wasnt the easy one but it was the right one becasue he saved the ship. That 40 seconds more the Chief asked for might have been too much and end up destroying the ship. From the Chief's POV this might look cruel but this is what it means to be in charge, you have to look at the bigger picture. 2.7k people is a lot more than 80. In space, inertia is everything. You dont need to continously thrust in order to move because there is no atmospheric resistance. Every ship is able to fly as fast backwards as they do forward, just cut thrust and flip the ship over. You will see that the fights in this show is very realistic in terms of maneuvers. Small craft uses every axis of movement unlike other shows wher they only maneuver on the same plane. In the Expanse the Rocinante was a corvette and was around 2500 tonnes. I always wondered what kind of thrusters she had to maneuver like that. No idea how much a Viper MK VII weighs but you can see their size compared to a person. They look slightly bigger than a large fighter nowadays but add all the life support, the 3x engines, weapons, etc, lets say triple it so its about 90 -100tons. They flip over ( do a 180 ) in 0.35 secs. Thats pretty responsive if you ask me. :) Battlestars are huge beasts naval battleships are a good comparison except these are 1.5km long so they maneuver slowly and have a good coverage of point defense guns so compensate for the lack of maneuverability. As for the scene when 6 snaps the baby's neck....think about it. I agree that its horrible but remember she knew that a nuclear holocaust is just hours away. Maybe what she did actually saved that kid from going through a lot worse. I'm not saying thats what happened but its an angle worth take a look at. Remember how the Expanse eased you in at the beginning, them picking up the SOS of the Scopuli, going to take a look, etc... This ain't like that lol, it starts out with a holocaust and will not let up for a while. The pilot episde ( S1E1) 33 is insane. When you go forward pleae keep one thing in mind at all times when you think about motivations. This is a fight for survival not just a conventional war. The Cylons came to end the human race for good. What is the line that you would not cross if those were the stakes? Really looking forward to your journey through this show and imma tell you it'll be a wild one. I wish I could delete all memories of it and start it fresh. Watched it over 20 times. I keep upgrading the medium as technology advances, first I downloaded every episodes as they aired ( it was not available where i lived ), then bought the collectors dvd, then the bluray and will continue this trend with the next tech. Can't wait for the next one guys.
Ahh ok. They're named after the zodiac. That makes sense now. No shields seems really worrying down the line. Good thing they're all separate blocks and not networked with each other.
I mean neither sides have shields so its not an issue since both sides using weapons that are really compareable. Also, the Galactica literally have meters thick armor on her prow so I wouldnt be worried much either. :) One of the really good thing about this show is the continuity of the damage on the ships ( and people lol ). You will see damage from seasons before becasue repairing armor layers require a drydock in a shipyard which they dont have.
Enjoy boys you will love this... So say we all! and remember what happened before will happen again :D Also is you are open for requests check out Travellers 2016 , Continuum 2012 & Timeless
This is my favorite sci-fi series and miniseries of all time. Just head and shoulders above pretty much anything else you'll ever see. It's sci-fi, but in the naturalistic world. it's not a space opera. That's been done. That's not what they wanted- there are no green aliens. Just humans and cylons. That's not me spoiling it. They wanted people to know that information ahead of time, which is why they told people ahead of time that it was going to be this kind of drama. so I figured you guys deserve to know as well.
12:58 The problem with the human looking Cylons is that they were made too human. They eat, sleep and get horny. Pretty much whatever can affect a human mentally can affect them.
@@RamblersInc They are harder to spot initially. But as Caprica Six told Baltar there are twelve models. So there are only 12 different human looking Cylons. A Cylon within a model number are practically identical to one another. So if you start seeing two or more people who look exactly alike barring hairstyle or clothing …they are Cylons. I don’t know if it was even stated whether identical twins is a natural occurrence for the people of Twelve Colonies of Kobol. They are human but as the show progresses you will notice they are different than us. Nuff said.
Trisha Helfer plays "the sixth model" out of twelve different models, which has uncounted iterations, which is why it does not matter if Six is killed at the Armistice Station or on Caprica.
Just be aware that BSG gets a lot of copyright strikes. So you guys might have to alter the footage from the show somehow. Otherwise the show's amazing. 😊
You're a star for this. Thanks for the heads up. Cutting more scenes/altering may save me a lot of grief in the long run. Don't know if it'll make for great viewing though.
@@RamblersInc IMO, if you can deal with the editing hassle, the viewers will stick around (or maybe move over to Patreon, lol). The show really is *that* good.
I find this interesting. I started with Trek, DS9, B5, BSG and finally Expanse. Yes, this is epic and I loved BSG the first time out almost 20 yrs ago (20 yrs????). But it pales next to The Expanse- because of its better world building BSG is magnificent and what was once considered hard sci fi. Now that mantle has been taken by The Expanse
Except for the mini-series and the first few episodes of season 1, I'm going to have to catch you on the next one guys. In my opinion, the show loses its way around season 3, and too many reactors have started on this in the last couple of months that I'm burnt out on it. You're going to have a wonderful time with this show. Little warning, during the intro, towards the end when the drums start going, look away to not get spoiled for the episode. They show scenes from the episode.
@@RamblersInc the drums only last like 30 seconds, and it's a flash of scenes for the episode you're about to watch. the drums are a good audio cue. When they stop, you can watch the rest of the episode. Since you are reacting, I would say look away when they're playing. But on the flip side, that *is* how the producers of the show released it to everyone else back in the day. So there is grounds to watch it all, if you wish.
Best TV show (any genre) ever! My take on the "refugee lottery" scene with Baltar: We already know he is the most selfish and unprincipled person ever. He was definitely considering stealing the winning ticket (evidenced by his long pause). Once Helo recognized him, he immediately and correctly realized that, with all eyes on him, his chances of stealing the ticket are much diminished, but, as a famed A-lister he may have additional opportunities to be rescued. So, the smart play is to make a public display of his "honesty", give the lady her winning ticket, and wait for those additional opportunities to roll in (as they immediately did). BTW: Something I noticed that none of the other reactors or comments I've read anywhere -- the lady who says she misplaced her glasses, they were right there above her hairline!! Dan.
Absolutely please continue. This is tied with The Expanse for the best SciFi show of all time, imo. Great writing, acting, similar tone, similar faux-realism (not as much as The Expanse, but more than most shows). Please continue. edit - and the music is phenomenal
Interesting story, you keep saying Kit, Knightrider... The red bar eye effect was in the original series too, Glen A. Larson created the original series, and also Knighrider. leading a lot of people to question.... was Kitt a cylon. Apparently not, Mr. Larson just liked the effect.
Another of my takes: Roslin is the only civilian on her ship able to act with resolve and leadership -- while everyone else is still somewhere between despair and panic -- because she already had her panic moment earlier in the day (when she learned about her cancer) and has had a chance to recover her poise. (In contrast, the military guys, who've trained all their life for this moment, while their faces betray shock and horror, are still all able to fully function and do their job!)
Hmm 🤔. I'm sure there are moments where she has to hide away from everyone to break down for a little bit. It still has a lasting psychological effect (especially when she's been told she's dying). She may have been calm in that moment, but...should she still be the one making decisions ?
If the way it was filmed seems strange, it wad filmed in the style of a documentary and filmed with hand held cameras...inside and outside the ships. Also you mentioned Firefly, if you watch when Roslin is being told about her cancer you can see the ship lifting off in the background as a nod to the show.
The miniseries reflects American sentiment following the 9/11 attacks. This first aired in 2003, when the feeling of surprise vulnerability was still fresh.
@@RamblersInc I've watched a few of your film reviews. The Godfather and something else, but I like to watch the stuff that really connected with me like the two aforementioned shows.
This series starts off dark, and gets darker. Lot's of desperation, paranoia and ugly dilemmas. Some great sci-fi with excellent effects, music and characters.
"The Terminator and KITT from Knight Rider" - I mean, I've been saying KITT is a freaking Cylon for years (decades, even) (The original BSG came out a few years before KR...) Six knew what was coming- it was a mercy in her mind; note her face as she's walking away...
@@RamblersInc Despite being wonderfully made cybernetic creatures, Cylons do have real feelings. Heck they even have their own religion so they know killing is a sin. But like any extremist they are capable of horrible acts in pursuit of their beliefs. Sidenote: The Cylons are monotheistic while the humans of the Twelve Colonies are polytheistic.
A technical detail: nukes cause EMPs by compressing the air at enormous speeds, causing electrons to dislodge. But an important component is air. A nuke in vaccum won't cause an EMP, or an overpressure shockwave. It's a lot less effective as a specaborne weapon than a planetary WMD. Not that many shows take those pesky details in consideration. Galactica didn't, here.
consider doing a series on the fallout adaptation on prime that was aired recently. it has some shortcommings when it comes to lore, but it has a really high production value, and seems all in all good, particularly considering it's a game adaptation. galactica has it's fans, but fallout is currently red hot. there will be definite more ppl looking for that.
Thanks for the heads up. That looks good too. I've only really played Fallout 2 and 4 (because I'm weird like that). I'm sure I'll love it. Hopefully we can get to it soon.
Battlestar Galactica -- on the surface, is what you've seen until now . However (no spoilers) as the show progresses it takes a different track to most if not all sci-fi shows with a parallel story line that is both Meta and quasi religious -- something that both delighted and frustrated both atheist and religious viewers -- who while getting a terrific story that they loved, didn't always get the interpretations that they expected ... -- based on what sci-fi has been up until this show, with Star Trek being mostly atheist (with a false god here and there) , and Stargate actually going full on war with beings calling themselves gods . Based on those experiences , a show that had a promotional picture of the characters in the style of The Last Supper (that you mentioned seeing) , was very far off from what viewers at the time were used to .
Yes! BSG Reboot is one of the better remakes and upgrades. While it was still airing, a friend of mine who is a die-hard SciFi geek and his wife who absolutely hates all things SciFi were watching it. She was in the room working on hobbies at first, and then slowly, she took over and BSG became -- her -- show, and because her husband kept trying to talk about the sci fi elements, she banished him from the room when the new episodes were on because "he was interrupting HER show."
Best SciFi show until The Expanse.
kicked out of the room 🤣🤣🤣
Great reactions for a great series.
FYI. In the scene where Laura is getting her cancer diagnosis, Serenity is flying by in the window. It is hard to see, but it is there.
DAMN IT. Can't believe we missed that.
Same effects team, ZOIC.
You got it right! A Battlestar is like an amalgamation of an aircraft carrier and a battleship!
which will be demonstrated in practice in the next episode! 💥💥💥💥☠️
I greatly enjoyed your Firefly journey, gentlemen, and I am incredibly eager to hear your insights into this series. So say we all!
You asked why the guy was running with his books and said that he should leave them. He's running with them because he understands human civilization is ending and he's trying to save some part of their past in case anyone survives. It's why you see people running into burning libraries or museums. They're trying to save a piece of humanity. That one shot of him trying to save the books is the most haunting image of the miniseries to me.
And while I 1) absolutely agree with your sentiment (and have told people essentially the same thing myself when they ask about that) 2) value, as I call them, "dead tree versions" of books... c'mon man, tell me you have a thumb drive chock pull of ebooks in your pocket and those half dozen are just the extra special ones...
@@Sephiroth144 I hear that, but you have to remember even in our society not everything is digitized. I just had to buy a bootlegged DVD of a show that is no longer available to stream and was never put on physical media. Those might have been the only copies in existence (or maybe first editions or something). I'm just saying that I 100% get why the guy prioritized the books. Honestly I commend the guy for it.
@@mikehunt534 As I said, I agree; although, I DEFINITELY don't back up stuff that's hard to find, including scanning/digitizing things myself... (Granted, I might be a little paranoid, but hey, MAYBE he shoulda been too and prepared more- just in case =p)
Makes sense. But....live first, then see if you can salvage our species memories and knowledge. Everyone else is going to outrun him (except for the guy on crutches).
@@RamblersInc Of course, good chance he (and most of them) were running vaguely in that direction (away from "good targets", i.e., cities/military installation (they new about) before they saw the Raptor) When you're "heading to the hills", you're not really planning on doing any return trips.
To be clear, Baltar was tempted to take the paper from the old woman when Helo recognized him. Feeling exposed he went for the first diversion he could think of, announcing that the lady had the number.
The Cylons might remind you of the KITT car from Knight Rider, but clearly, in 1982, they stole the moving red LED eye thing from the original Cylons in the 1978 Battlestar Galactica. So in reality the cylons are reminding you of the original cylons.
"Stole" is really not the word you should be using, since both shows were created by the same person (Glen A. Larson).
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@@renx81 AKA Glen Larceny 😄
Something that is missed by many, especially outside of the US, is the look of the swearing in of President Roslin. The scene is setup to mimic the swearing in of Lyndon Johnson on Air Force One after the assassination of Kennedy.
The show used a lot of real world events and politics to influence the look and the plot.
Wow. They actually swore him in mid air ?
@@RamblersInc Not mid air. He was sworn in while Air Force One was still on the ground at Love Field in Dallas shortly before they took off.
Ahh ok.
Fun fact: Lyndon Johnson had a copy of the swearing in BEFORE they heard that JFK was assassinated. The person swearing him in said they didn't remember the whole oath by heart, and Johnson immediately handed them his copy from his suit pocket.
When Six kills the baby, it's a mercy killing because she knows that the nuclear attack is coming.
was looking for this comment. TY!
I know a lot of fans think like this, but i disagree. You can tell by the suprised expression on her face when that happened, and it proves she didn't know the the baby was that fragile.
She literally makes a comment about how fragile babies are. She didn't mean to kill 6he baby. I thought it was 1,000% obvious what the intention was.
Your KITT comparison is on point. The Cylon eye was from the original series and was later used again in Knight Rider by the same show creator.
Oh wow. So KITT is based on Cylons?
@@RamblersInc yep, even the sound effect was taken from BSG!
Fab reaction to Part 1 gents and welcome to the world of Battlestar Galactica. As another commenter said, this is a natural follow up to The Expanse and your great reactions for that series. Each decade has at least one great sci fi show with an arc story and BSG will take you on one heck of a ride. You'll grow to love this family of characters, the lore, and the journey ahead. Looking forward to your great reactions !
Ooh! Ooh! Yesss! This show is amazing. You guyys have got to watch the entire thing, even if it's not for TH-cam. This is one of my all-time favorite shows. It makes you feel ALL the feelings, and makes you really have to think about what you would do or how you would feel in their shoes. I watched this when it was new and I still don't have the answer to some of those questions that I asked myself.
Edit: you may want to turn the audio up on the show. There's a lot of very quiet conversations that take place, and in comparison, if we have to turn it up to hear what's going on, you'll basically be shouting at us.
Thanks for the heads up. Yeh it looks like it's going to be a conversation heavy show.
@@RamblersInc it's a good balance, but a lot of the conversation does a lot of heavy lifting. Really looking forward to the next one!
BSG remains to this day the best human drama show I've ever seen. It's unbelievably good and I really hope you guys get to watch it all.
Fun fact this was tricia helfers first acting role.prior she was a model
Not surprised (about the model part, acting's pretty good ).
Don't bother with the "we will see how this goes down and decide to do the series" ... just do the series. You know it makes sense.
Nobody can resist after watching the miniseries.
You guys - this is my favorite show ever!!! If you continue on, you're in for a ride.
Such great actors and human drama!
To explain terminology, the Galactica is a Battlestar (type), of the Jupiter class (this is never mentioned in the show). Battlestar is the equivalent to battleship + aircraft carrier.
She's the last battlestar from the first Cylon war still in service, with a prestigious story back then. Retiring her would've been a historic event. The end of an era. And the Cylons really made sure that day wold be the end of an era. I often wonder if they picked the day forthe attack to coincide with the decomissioning of that ship.
It's worth mentioning that one of the creators, Ronald D Moore, was an ensign in the US Coast Guard before becoming a tv writer, and that training shows.
It's be the shortest show ever if the Cylons decided to delay it by a day 😂
@@RamblersInc 😂😂😂
Battlestar Galactica is one of those "Television Golden Age" shows like The Sopranos, Mad Men, Dexter and The Wire. It stands up today as among the best science fiction shows ever made. Battlestar, above all, is about the emotional journey of the characters. The plot sometimes wanders, but the characters are always true to their identities. It is one of the most brutally emotional shows ever written. And let me emphasize, it is brutal. It's hard to believe that it gets so dark. Not many shows actually have the courage to go there. But the end result is Fracking amazing. The finale to this long journey is brilliant.
gold does not age.
26:51 It’s this moment of stoic heroism that made Helo a fan favorite character. Don’t know if I could have done the same.
Showrunner Ronald D. Moore said that when he went to sci-fi conventions after the miniseries a recurring question he was asked was “So what happened to Helo?”
Agreed. Very heroic. I felt for him. I'm assuming he's dead from radiation and the hellscape that Caprica would be.
@@RamblersInc Watch the series and find out 😉
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Great to see you two moving on to BSG. I watched the original series when it first aired back in 1978. This keeps the concepts and characters but IMO blows the original away (pun intended). It's both character and story driven and does an excellent job with subverting expectations on both. It does get quite dark at times - Ron Moore (worked on Star Trek TNG, DS9 and Voyager ) wanted to get away from the sanitized world of Trek and came up with this along with David Eick (Hercules and Xena). It's one of the few sci-fi series that made me laugh and tear up in a single episode, and it did it many times. I'll be with you for the duration - I hope you stick it out to the end; I don't think you'll be disappointed. Thanks!
The guy who made Xena made this? Loved both of those, so I hope we love this.
He's like me, me, me--- Gentlemen welcome to the wonderful world of Gaius Balter.
Another great selection to watch. You will enjoy it. Keep up the great work!
OH BOY I'm excited! Two of my favorite reactors and one of my favorite TV shows of all time!!! Your Expanse reactions were wonderful and YES since you loved the Expanse you will definitely love this show! If you keep in mind it's early 2000s and the budget was relatively small, it's even more impressive. Looking forward to this!
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It's definitely a good start. Not quite hooked.....yet.
Great show! Probably my favorite sci-fi show
Another channel reacting to BSG, most excellent. Subbed and looking forward to more! :)
Fun fact: The scene where Laura Roslin becomes President of the Twelve Colonies was modeled after President Lyndon B. Johnson's inauguration on board of Air Force One after the assassination of JFK.
I’m a simple man. I see BSG reactions, I like and subscribe.
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This will be a lot of fun. I'm surprised you didn't notice the Serenity cameo on Caprica. I believe it's during the doctor visit with Secretary Roslin.
We missed it 😢.To be fair, that was a split second.
In space relative motion will remain the same as long as no force counters it. So when they spin they can keep going in the last direction they were moving while facing another direction.
If you guys decide to do the entire series, please keep in mind that it is really VERY important to avoid any spoilers for this show. Even looking up characters can reveal major spoilers.
Side note: This show has the best music score for any TV show ever. The composer is Bear McCreary. It's unique and beautiful, and gets better and better every season. The finale score is a magnum opus of all the themes throughout the whole series.
Side, side note: The symphonic original score from the 1978 TV series is played during the ceremony to retire the ship.
Although it’s Richard Gibbs until about the third episode?
While I don’t disagree you with, this isn’t a show note this is an opinion.
@@PHDiaz-vv7yo I believe RG stepped aside after the mini; by 33, its all Bear. (And AFAIK, Bear was working as a music assistant during the mini)
@@AL-fl4jk Indeed; to be a true side note he'd have to say "One of the greatest TV scores", not singularly the best. (Its pretty well established as being one of the best TV scores composed- whether its *the best* or not is an opinion.)
Woo hoo! So glad you guys are watching this. Really well done for a SyFY channel show. Lots of twists and turns and great world building.
So excited!!!! you are watching this. 2 other TH-camrs I watch just finished the series. I am glad to start over with you guys.
I retract what I said in an earlier comment on your channel: you've picked up some amazing shows and films to react to, and I'm coming around to your choices. Especially when they're as excellent as The Expanse, The Good Place, Community, and Battlestar Galactica.
As a child of the 80s, I appreciated you catching the red Cylon eye / KITT reference: Glen A. Larsen created both the original Battlestar Galactica and then Knight Rider.
This is a reboot (re-imagining) of the 70s show, so the main characters all carry over from the original-albeit with several changes that other commenters will undoubtedly discuss ad nauseam (though hopefully not until you've shared the second half of the miniseries).
"What kind of damn show is this?!" Oh, sweet summer child. We're just getting started. 🤣
Ahh ok it's a continuation. It felt liked we missed something nostalgic with the old Vipers.
@@RamblersInc Not a continuation per se, just telling the same basic story in a new way. The reboot showrunners have their own themes and plotlines that they choose to follow, but the basic setup and most of the major characters all come from the original show.
Ronald D. Moore, one of the show runners, had worked on Star Trek extensively and part of the ethos of BSG is his reaction to that style of sci-fi narrative, especially Star Trek: Voyager. In Voyager, nothing ever sticks because the "reset button" is always hit at the end of each episode. Not so here! (Or in much modern TV.)
Also, remember that the miniseries premiered in 2003, so the September 11 attacks were pretty fresh. The concept of "the enemy could be anyone / the Cylons look like us now" is absolutely a theme that this show wants to explore. It wasn't part of the original series.
There's probably a little nostalgia factor with the old vipers and "chrome toaster" Cylon models you see from time to time-even the original show's theme song is worked in a few times as the Colonial theme (which played during the miniseries' "air show" fly-by). So the reboot definitely uses elements from the original show, and commenters will likely mention them when they happen. To say more would involve spoilers... 🤐 lol.
Anyway, another great reaction! Thanks!
"the enemy could be anyone / the Cylons look like us now" - I didn't even think of that parallel. Good catch.
@@RamblersInc Remember how Six told Baltar her body would be destroyed in the initial attack but her personality would be reborn in another body? It’s true they get uploaded into a fresh new identical body with all of their thoughts and memories intact.
Cylons are ultra religious and the attack on the Colonies is driven by their faith. So if you take the concept of a single final death out of the equation, what else would a person be willing to do for their beliefs? We already see what people will do in the real world knowing they won’t come back.
How did they adopt such a belief system? Or is that spoilery? I keep picturing Arnie from Terminator believing in a religion and it's not working in my head 😂
Starbuck was the name of Captain Ahab’s First Mate in Moby Dick.
Aaaahh. An indication of certain characters roles in this ?🤔
@@RamblersInc Oddly, she is far from the Moby Dick's Starbuck character. MB Starbuck was loyal, calm, reasonable and tried to convince Ahab to let go of his obsession with the white whale.
🤣🤣🤣......yeh that definitely doesn't sound like her.
1:27, oh yes the Last Supper analogy is very much intentional. This show will dip a lot into questions of humanity, mortality and spirituality. But it's not what you think it is is. The ending of this series is mind blowing. Nuff said.
Soooo excited you are doing Battlestar Gallactica. Do not even consider passing on the series. Soooo excited. Thank you
What a great choice! If you're going to stick with it, this will be an amazing experience, on par - to my mind - with Firefly and The Expanse.
"What kind of damn show is this?" LOL! Welcome to BSG guys. Right up there with The Expanse as one of the greatest sci-fi series ever. I've seen it end-to-end about six times, including twice on other reaction channels. The show's themes are thought-provoking. The writing, character arcs, and acting are superb. The musical score is amazing. The special effects are excellent for their time. And the showrunners are bound and determined to subvert your expectations at every turn. Things are not what they seem, and the end is not what you expect. Just one word of advice: pay close attention to the details or you'll risk misunderstanding important aspects of the story, especially in the final season. Enjoy the ride!
You are correct, there are twelve humanoid Cylon models. The blonde (red dress) is Number Six.
Great choice, guys. BSG is great space shit. Cgi is a wee bit murky sometimes but otherwise aged well. After this two-part miniseries, fan response was so strong that a series was greenlit. There's a couple of minor changes but nothing drastic, you'll see as you go.
Yeh. For 2004, the CGI still holds up.
Yess! Let's frakkin' go!!!
Looking forward to Part 2. You will definitely enjoy the show and it is worth your time. Show has excellent characters and excellent acting. Gaius Balter is certainly a fun trip.
I'm so glad that you selected this for your next show! I had left after Firefly, but now I'm back for BSG! I hope that you consider doing more than one episode a week for this one!
Love the start so far.
We're going to start off one a week for S1 and hopefully twice a week for S2 onwards.
The BEST Sci Fi series EVER. Well-worth your time. It’s unforgettable.
so glad y'all are doing this show.
The Cylon attack wiped out all twelve colonies (each on a different planet).
You'll enjoy this one. There is a somewhat dragging period in the show for about a season or so around season 3-4, but overall it's a great one.
Great series. I look forward to seeing your reactions to it going forward.
Yaaaaaay! Such a great show, one of my favourites. Really hope you watch the rest after the miniseries - it gets so good!
This show is amazing. Almost every character brings there A game when acting. A great show that touches on every thing. A drama that touches on every thing call it religion, drama, sci fi, etc. and to think it came out 20 years ago right after 9/11 it timed it so you will find yourself drawing a lot of comparisons to it. A good show that has a complete ending to it as well. It has 4 very good seasons without overdoing a show pas it its prime.
I'm starting to feel like there won't be any throwaway characters...apart from Helo (what a hero).
The original Battlestar Galactica show was created by Glen Larson, who also created Knight Rider, which is why the Cylon "optics" have the same scanning action as that of KITT.
This is, by far, my favorite TV series ever. I can only pray you end up loving it a quarter as much as I do.
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Battlestar Galactica is actually a "WWII Carrier drama set in space."
Perfect way to look at it.
one of the greatest series ever made - and I don't just mean the fantastic series. the actors, the script, the music.. everything here is of the highest quality. I'll stop before I give away any spoilers! on to part 2!! 📴
Real Newtonian physics - you are expecting the ships to fly like planes, but nope. Think The Expanse, until you apply thrust and impart acceleration into a new direction, your ship will keep on moving in the last direction it was moving. And facing is immaterial, except you can only apply thrust/acceleration to the ship's aft.
And glad you are reacting to this series. I never finished Season 1 (gasp!), so this is good motivation for me to finally get that done.
Uh oh. Was it that bad that you didn't finish S1?
@@RamblersInc I bought the DVDs with the intent of finishing it (and S2 and S2.5, or something like that), so it was engaging enough. It was just one thing or another, and now it's decades later and, well, here we are. (If you are into boardgaming, there's a pretty great game on the series.)
Yep I hear you. Life gets in the way and before you know it, something else is out.
@@RamblersInc Several score somethings.
I’m so glad you are watching this!
The XO is Colonel Tigh. Starbuck's name is Kara Thrace.
Let's check it out!!!
I am so glad you guys are doing this show, its an amazing sci-fi show ( imho the best sci-fi ever made ). I feel like this is right up your alley, you guys always have a meaningful conversation about the episodes and this show is perfect for that. Really well written, very complex characters and nobody's perfect. There will be characters with arcs that will blow your mind becasue it just keep on giving and it will change how you view them a few times. Think of Amos in the Expanse. How it started and where it ended.
I want to give you a quick rundown on stuff but I promise there will be NO SPOILERS regarding any character arcs or storyline, only some context about the BSG universe that comes handy going forward. Most of this is from other media ( wiki, games, other BSG content ) and some will be mentioned in the show later but its mostly technical data. And will address some of your questions as well. It's gonna be long though lol.
The tech in the show is grounded in reality, except a few things like their FTL ( Faster than light ) drive which is needed to serve the story, their artifical gravity on the ships, and some of the Cylon techs. The 12 colonies of Kobol ( you will learn more of their history later ) are 12 habitable planets in a Star System called Cyrannus. They were named after the 12 astrological signs. ( Picon = Pices, Scorpia = Scorpion, Caprica = Capricorn, etc... ) There are some ships that dont have FTL drive because it was not needed, mostly luxury passenger liner cruising in the system between the worlds, some industrial haulers and other utility ships.
Battlestarts are the core of the fleet, they are the main frontline ships with other combat and support ships around them forming a Battlegroup ( BSG = Battlestar Group ). The Galactica ( BSG 75) is an old ship, one of the first 12 Battlestars ( one for each colony, Galactica represented Caprica ) rushed into service during the First Cylon War. A Battlestar is a carrier and battleship hybrid, with a large complement of Vipers, heavy armor and armament. The Galactica supposed to carry 160 Vipers, but her starboard flightpod was turned into a museum so she has only half of that. Many of them were destroyed in the first wave of the attack using Baltar's CNP ( Command Navigation Program). There are no shields, lasers, phasers, or any fancy sci-fi stuff, they use projectile weapons ( like a tank or a navy ship nowadays ) with 2 types of shells. A simple impact fused shell that explodes when hits something ( this is the anti-ship ammunition ) and timed fuse that explodes after a certaion flight time, creating a wall of exploding fire and shrapnel thus covering an area from incoming missiles and small craft. You haven't seen them yet becasue the Galactica was about to be decomissioned and her armory is empyty thats why they're so desperately looking for an ammunition depot. They also have different missiles including nukes. Battlestars have very heavy armoring on the ships ( I'm talking meters thick layers ) so they can take hits for an extended period of time giving them a good survivability in battles and allowing them to take many hits and survive nukes.
Some stats for the ship. Its crewed by approx. 2900 people ( its designed to run with 5k people, a full complement of marines included ) but it was about to retire so they removed a lot of ammunition and fuel from it, converted the starboard flight pod into a museum and half of her small crafts was also removed. Even before the current events she was in for a big refit and they removed much of her armor, about 3/4 of her primary guns and a lot of her point defense weaponry, but make no mistake, she is still a very powerful warship.
Here are the stats:
Length: 4719.95ft (1438.64m)
Width: 1761.29ft (536.84m)
Height: 601.43ft (183.32m)
Armaments: ~514x dual point-defense CIWS
24x primary guns ( Battlestar Artillery )
~12x missile tubes
1x active flight pod
1x active flight deck, 617m (2,025 ft)
40x Viper Launch Tubes ( can launch 40 Vipers at once with those magnetic accelerators )
She has computer networks on board but they are isolated blocks separated from each other. Imagine systems like the Life Support computers, they are networked but they dont talk to the Navigation, Propulsion or Tactical networks. The CIC ( Combat Information Center ) is as the name suggests the center of the tactical and other information. Since it has no windows it doesnt have a traditional bridge like Navy Warships. It has an elevated area above the CIC which serves as the bridge but they are mostly in the CIC.
- Raptors are small support craft designed as VIP transport for the fleet, and a very versatile recon ship with an excellent EWAR suite that can scout for fleets or go along with vipers to support them with EWAR during fights. There are more heavily armed variants with missile pods that can strike larger ships.
- Vipers are the primary defense of the fleet against small craft and as you can see often used for missile defence.
- Cylon Basestar
It's the Cylon's version of the Carrier-Battleship hybrid though not as armored as Battlestars. You didnt see much of them becasue the were split up between all the colonies and military installations and they didnt need much thanks to Baltar's CNP, an operating system used by both the navy and the civilian fleet. Most Battlestars and Vipers had it, though there was a few that were commissioned earlier that did not get that update yet. Those ships were either being scheduled to be decomissioned like the Galactica or were due to go in a refit and upgrade in one of the shipyards. This is the software the Cylons used to ( thanks to 6, the blond woman you've seen with Baltar ) get their virus past the firewalls and disable the Colonial ships. This made their attack so devastating because the Colonial Navy was unable to fight back.
Height: 869.98ft (265.17m)
Armaments: 220 nuclear, conventional, and ballistic missile tubes
434 Cylon Raiders
Width: 3381.53ft (1030.69m)
Height: 869.98ft (265.17m)
The ranks in their military is exactly like nowadays navy. The Flag officers on top ( Admirals, Rear Admirals ), they are often have operational command of a Battlestar Group, Commanders which are basically Commanding officers of Battlestars or other military vessels, Colonel, Liutenant Colonel, Major, Captain, Liutenant, Ensing, Cadet.
William Adama is a Commander in command of the Galactica, his 2nd in command ( XO, Executive Officer which is not a rank its a title or assingment ) is Colonel Saul Tigh.
The Chief ( Galen Tyrol ) is an NCO ( Non comissioned Officer ), he is in charge of the maintanance crew that maintains and repairs the spacecrafts, handling ammunitions, etc. He served on many Battlestars before ( Columbia, Atlantia, and Pegasus ) and he is a very experienced NCO.
Helo ( Carl Agathon ) is Boomer's ECO ( Electronic Countermeasures Officer ) his job is to handle the ECM suite and other sensors on the Raptor and taking off other workload from the pilot in tense situations.
This show came out 2 years after 911 and it had an obvious effect on it. Those 80 people working on DC ( Damage Control ) might as well be firefighters in the WTC. Tigh had to make a difficult call there but ultimately it was the right one. The ship got hit by a nuke, the fire was spreading means they were losing control of it. In space they have the luxury to vent the air to space thus instantly stopping fires. If the fire reaches certain critical compartments ( FTL fuel, ammo storage, ) it will casue a catastrophic explosion and they lose much more than 80 peoples. There are 2700 peoples aboard. If it explodes they will lose most of those people. In combat you often have bad, worse and a very bad choice to choose from. You have to choose the best of those. The worst kind of leader is the one who cant or wont make a choice. That person will get a lot of people killed. You could see him hesitating for a moment but making the call. Thats what leaders do. They make the call hoping it was the right one because they have to live with it. Good leaders feel that weight. It wasnt the easy one but it was the right one becasue he saved the ship. That 40 seconds more the Chief asked for might have been too much and end up destroying the ship. From the Chief's POV this might look cruel but this is what it means to be in charge, you have to look at the bigger picture. 2.7k people is a lot more than 80.
In space, inertia is everything. You dont need to continously thrust in order to move because there is no atmospheric resistance. Every ship is able to fly as fast backwards as they do forward, just cut thrust and flip the ship over. You will see that the fights in this show is very realistic in terms of maneuvers. Small craft uses every axis of movement unlike other shows wher they only maneuver on the same plane. In the Expanse the Rocinante was a corvette and was around 2500 tonnes. I always wondered what kind of thrusters she had to maneuver like that. No idea how much a Viper MK VII weighs but you can see their size compared to a person. They look slightly bigger than a large fighter nowadays but add all the life support, the 3x engines, weapons, etc, lets say triple it so its about 90 -100tons. They flip over ( do a 180 ) in 0.35 secs. Thats pretty responsive if you ask me. :)
Battlestars are huge beasts naval battleships are a good comparison except these are 1.5km long so they maneuver slowly and have a good coverage of point defense guns so compensate for the lack of maneuverability.
As for the scene when 6 snaps the baby's neck....think about it. I agree that its horrible but remember she knew that a nuclear holocaust is just hours away. Maybe what she did actually saved that kid from going through a lot worse. I'm not saying thats what happened but its an angle worth take a look at.
Remember how the Expanse eased you in at the beginning, them picking up the SOS of the Scopuli, going to take a look, etc... This ain't like that lol, it starts out with a holocaust and will not let up for a while. The pilot episde ( S1E1) 33 is insane. When you go forward pleae keep one thing in mind at all times when you think about motivations. This is a fight for survival not just a conventional war. The Cylons came to end the human race for good. What is the line that you would not cross if those were the stakes?
Really looking forward to your journey through this show and imma tell you it'll be a wild one. I wish I could delete all memories of it and start it fresh. Watched it over 20 times. I keep upgrading the medium as technology advances, first I downloaded every episodes as they aired ( it was not available where i lived ), then bought the collectors dvd, then the bluray and will continue this trend with the next tech. Can't wait for the next one guys.
Ahh ok. They're named after the zodiac. That makes sense now.
No shields seems really worrying down the line.
Good thing they're all separate blocks and not networked with each other.
I mean neither sides have shields so its not an issue since both sides using weapons that are really compareable. Also, the Galactica literally have meters thick armor on her prow so I wouldnt be worried much either. :)
One of the really good thing about this show is the continuity of the damage on the ships ( and people lol ). You will see damage from seasons before becasue repairing armor layers require a drydock in a shipyard which they dont have.
I really hope you enjoy this series. One of the top 5 Sci Fi series EVER ♥
Enjoy boys you will love this... So say we all! and remember what happened before will happen again :D Also is you are open for requests check out Travellers 2016 , Continuum 2012 & Timeless
Love a good time travel show/movie. The description for Continuum is crazy.
@@RamblersInc all 3 are great. Travellers being my personal favourite.
ok i have not seen this watching along with you this will be fun
This is my favorite sci-fi series and miniseries of all time. Just head and shoulders above pretty much anything else you'll ever see. It's sci-fi, but in the naturalistic world. it's not a space opera. That's been done. That's not what they wanted- there are no green aliens. Just humans and cylons. That's not me spoiling it. They wanted people to know that information ahead of time, which is why they told people ahead of time that it was going to be this kind of drama. so I figured you guys deserve to know as well.
This is a great show, hope you guys decide to watch the whole thing. If you do, I’ll be there for the ride.
Such a great series!
12:58 The problem with the human looking Cylons is that they were made too human.
They eat, sleep and get horny. Pretty much whatever can affect a human mentally can affect them.
Damn. So they're harder to spot......love it. We've missed puzzles in shows/movies.
@@RamblersInc They are harder to spot initially. But as Caprica Six told Baltar there are twelve models. So there are only 12 different human looking Cylons.
A Cylon within a model number are practically identical to one another. So if you start seeing two or more people who look exactly alike barring hairstyle or clothing …they are Cylons.
I don’t know if it was even stated whether identical twins is a natural occurrence for the people of Twelve Colonies of Kobol. They are human but as the show progresses you will notice they are different than us. Nuff said.
Trisha Helfer plays "the sixth model" out of twelve different models, which has uncounted iterations, which is why it does not matter if Six is killed at the Armistice Station or on Caprica.
Just be aware that BSG gets a lot of copyright strikes. So you guys might have to alter the footage from the show somehow. Otherwise the show's amazing. 😊
You're a star for this. Thanks for the heads up. Cutting more scenes/altering may save me a lot of grief in the long run. Don't know if it'll make for great viewing though.
@@RamblersInc IMO, if you can deal with the editing hassle, the viewers will stick around (or maybe move over to Patreon, lol). The show really is *that* good.
I find this interesting. I started with Trek, DS9, B5, BSG and finally Expanse.
Yes, this is epic and I loved BSG the first time out almost 20 yrs ago (20 yrs????). But it pales next to The Expanse- because of its better world building
BSG is magnificent and what was once considered hard sci fi. Now that mantle has been taken by The Expanse
And we're going from Expanse to firefly to BSG...
🤣 Are we going the wrong way ?
Except for the mini-series and the first few episodes of season 1, I'm going to have to catch you on the next one guys. In my opinion, the show loses its way around season 3, and too many reactors have started on this in the last couple of months that I'm burnt out on it. You're going to have a wonderful time with this show.
Little warning, during the intro, towards the end when the drums start going, look away to not get spoiled for the episode. They show scenes from the episode.
Uh oh. I hope we make it all the way. Thanks for the heads up.
@@RamblersInc the drums only last like 30 seconds, and it's a flash of scenes for the episode you're about to watch. the drums are a good audio cue. When they stop, you can watch the rest of the episode. Since you are reacting, I would say look away when they're playing. But on the flip side, that *is* how the producers of the show released it to everyone else back in the day. So there is grounds to watch it all, if you wish.
yay!
5:21 I remember watching the original show, these Vipers were visibly bigger than this.
Was that specific one from the older show?
@@RamblersInc The Viper shown in Part 1 is practically an exact copy of the Vipers from the original show. But it is smaller than the OG Vipers.
Best TV show (any genre) ever!
My take on the "refugee lottery" scene with Baltar: We already know he is the most selfish and unprincipled person ever. He was definitely considering stealing the winning ticket (evidenced by his long pause). Once Helo recognized him, he immediately and correctly realized that, with all eyes on him, his chances of stealing the ticket are much diminished, but, as a famed A-lister he may have additional opportunities to be rescued. So, the smart play is to make a public display of his "honesty", give the lady her winning ticket, and wait for those additional opportunities to roll in (as they immediately did).
BTW: Something I noticed that none of the other reactors or comments I've read anywhere -- the lady who says she misplaced her glasses, they were right there above her hairline!!
Dan.
Good point. He's cunning. He also looks like he's about to break 😂
Absolutely please continue. This is tied with The Expanse for the best SciFi show of all time, imo. Great writing, acting, similar tone, similar faux-realism (not as much as The Expanse, but more than most shows). Please continue.
edit - and the music is phenomenal
I feel like it's one of those shows where we'll have to take sides.
Interesting story, you keep saying Kit, Knightrider... The red bar eye effect was in the original series too, Glen A. Larson created the original series, and also Knighrider. leading a lot of people to question.... was Kitt a cylon. Apparently not, Mr. Larson just liked the effect.
But....imagine if Kitt was 😱
When you realize she killed the baby just before the nuclear bombs began to fall. It could be considered a mercy killing
😳. That snap though. Brutal
Top tier series. Enjoy.
I love this show, let's go!
Hellll Yes!!!!
Another of my takes: Roslin is the only civilian on her ship able to act with resolve and leadership -- while everyone else is still somewhere between despair and panic -- because she already had her panic moment earlier in the day (when she learned about her cancer) and has had a chance to recover her poise. (In contrast, the military guys, who've trained all their life for this moment, while their faces betray shock and horror, are still all able to fully function and do their job!)
Hmm 🤔. I'm sure there are moments where she has to hide away from everyone to break down for a little bit. It still has a lasting psychological effect (especially when she's been told she's dying). She may have been calm in that moment, but...should she still be the one making decisions ?
You guys will like this. You mention some other Sci Fi just a suggestion add Babylon 5 bit dated effects great story and adventure
Also, the mini-series is a little slowly paced. The pacing picks up and gets SO SO SO good once you get properly into season 1.
If the way it was filmed seems strange, it wad filmed in the style of a documentary and filmed with hand held cameras...inside and outside the ships. Also you mentioned Firefly, if you watch when Roslin is being told about her cancer you can see the ship lifting off in the background as a nod to the show.
I had to go back to check that out. Nice little cameo.
Yay. BSG!
The miniseries reflects American sentiment following the 9/11 attacks. This first aired in 2003, when the feeling of surprise vulnerability was still fresh.
this show is in my top3 scifi shows with Farscape and Expanse :) also LEXX is my hidden 4th xD
Phew. Glad we chose a good one.
I'm so glad you're watching this. I loved your Ted Lasso reacts and have been waiting for you to react to something else I enjoyed.
Love you guys.
Wow, you waited a long time in between these two. Hopefully the next one is something you enjoyed before as well.
@@RamblersInc I've watched a few of your film reviews. The Godfather and something else, but I like to watch the stuff that really connected with me like the two aforementioned shows.
Get ready for an amazing dark journey
This series starts off dark, and gets darker.
Lot's of desperation, paranoia and ugly dilemmas. Some great sci-fi with excellent effects, music and characters.
"The Terminator and KITT from Knight Rider" - I mean, I've been saying KITT is a freaking Cylon for years (decades, even) (The original BSG came out a few years before KR...)
Six knew what was coming- it was a mercy in her mind; note her face as she's walking away...
Knight Rider and Battlestar Galactica were actually created by the same person.
@@renx81 I am aware; but that we were denied a BSG(80) and Knight Rider crossover is a shame
Yeh. She looked a little troubled. Almost in conflict. Still.......brutal.
@@RamblersInc Despite being wonderfully made cybernetic creatures, Cylons do have real feelings. Heck they even have their own religion so they know killing is a sin. But like any extremist they are capable of horrible acts in pursuit of their beliefs.
Sidenote: The Cylons are monotheistic while the humans of the Twelve Colonies are polytheistic.
How the hell did they come up with their own belief system?
A technical detail: nukes cause EMPs by compressing the air at enormous speeds, causing electrons to dislodge. But an important component is air. A nuke in vaccum won't cause an EMP, or an overpressure shockwave. It's a lot less effective as a specaborne weapon than a planetary WMD.
Not that many shows take those pesky details in consideration. Galactica didn't, here.
ok, you guys always get a thumbs up from me thus far. But today's thumbs up comes brought to you by your knowledge of Arthur Fonzarelli
AYYYYYYY👍👍
K.I.T.T's light was inspired by the original series. ;)
Good choice.
Please more.
consider doing a series on the fallout adaptation on prime that was aired recently. it has some shortcommings when it comes to lore, but it has a really high production value, and seems all in all good, particularly considering it's a game adaptation.
galactica has it's fans, but fallout is currently red hot. there will be definite more ppl looking for that.
Thanks for the heads up. That looks good too. I've only really played Fallout 2 and 4 (because I'm weird like that). I'm sure I'll love it. Hopefully we can get to it soon.
What kind of damn show is this? One of the best shows ever created...
When she says she's model no. 6 of 12, it means there are 12 different looking humanoid cylons. There are 11 more we haven't met yet. Or have we?
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@@RamblersInc There are 12 different people who are secretly Cylons. The one that looks like Tricia Helfer is No. 6.
Also the whole series is very much science fiction writers grappling with 9/11 and the war on terror.
Ooh good parallel. It wasn't long after it either.
Battlestar Galactica -- on the surface, is what you've seen until now .
However (no spoilers) as the show progresses it takes a different track to most if not all sci-fi shows with a parallel story line that is both Meta and quasi religious -- something that both delighted and frustrated both atheist and religious viewers -- who while getting a terrific story that they loved, didn't always get the interpretations that they expected ... -- based on what sci-fi has been up until this show, with Star Trek being mostly atheist (with a false god here and there) , and Stargate actually going full on war with beings calling themselves gods .
Based on those experiences , a show that had a promotional picture of the characters in the style of The Last Supper (that you mentioned seeing) , was very far off from what viewers at the time were used to .
The mini-series is from 2003.