Amazingly the instructions on the bags say with both can go below 0 fahrenheit which for me is beyond comfort for camping anyways. Gore tex bivvy is awesome. Waterproof but you dont sweat or get condensation inside the bag.
Hello, thanks for the video. I used the exact same sleep system in Colorado western slopes and when is cold I covered my bivy with pine branches to add insulation (I used it also under) . In your situation I will have used the leaves.
@@Sirrehpotsirch I’m sure it was pretty heavy but I don’t remember on this particular camp out. I’ve since decided to shed some of that weight and cut out a lot of the waxed canvas pouches and other areas where I can go lighter.
I guess having been trained a certain way the video made me cringe at points, as the advantage of the MSS system, or other systems like a Vietnam Ranger Roll or old school cowboy roll is to have everything ready to throw down and sleep in within 1 minute. Snap the black bag into the bivvy before you leave the house. Insert the deflated mattress pad inside the roll and roll it all up together. This way, you just throw the Bivvy down, inflate done. Too many bags n stuff sacks being taken out of the bag. Takes too long to clear out in case of an emergency. Of course, with that said for best practice army protocol, the fact he brought beer…..who the heck cares. Take your time. I’d rather camp w beer and be slow not following protocol. :)
Hi, thanks for the video :) I’ve got MSS too and I love it! I’m thinking about upgrading my pad to Thermarest Xtherm. What size of the pad have you used? The pad is quite thick and I’m worrying if there is still space for the sleeping bag to decompress. Does it work freely or the setup is a bit squeezy?
It was fine for me inside the bivy but it could be used on the outside of the bivy as well. I just wanted to keep it in place and that’s easier when it’s inside. I use the regular size pad and it’s great for something like this, where I want to slip it inside the bivy. If I’m tent camping I like a wider pad. The regular Xtherm is pretty narrow.
@@joshinthewoodsyt thank you for your quick response! Putting pad inside seems to be much more convenient and save for the pad. I wish it would be possible with the wide version. Regular is narrow indeed but it is the only way to go inside, is that correct? Do you think the xtherm is strong enough to use it on the ground without any layer under it?
@@filipbasara9017I wouldn’t use it on the bare ground without some sort of ground sheet. Xtherm’s are too pricey to be taking any chances with. I’ve never tried any other pad inside the MSS so I’m not sure about if anything larger will fit or not.
Suggestion: Try cutting a wooden wedge from the first medium-sized piece of wood you split, and use that once you baton an entry crack. That would save your knife, and put more leverage into the split.
Thanks for a honest video on all...Myself got the MSS system..I'm more of a fall/ Winter person..I know TN/KY weather as I was station in Ft. Campbell 88-92...Clarksville and Hopkinsville and surrounding area .. Just stumbled across your video and enjoyed it ..Take care...And got new subscriber...
I'm here in east Tennessee as well, I live on Norris Lake. I love my MSS, it's my favorite piece of gear, ILBE Main Pack is my 2nd. Nice video man, just subbed. I don't know where you're at but we have some cool stores for bushcraft and survival. More to Life Outfitters in Clinton Tn, and of course Smoky Mountain Knife Works in Sevierville. I'm sure you know about these, but I thought I'd run it by you just in case.
Great vid, highly enjoyed. What cam/lens you running? You using manual focus, single or continuous AF? Also, is the audio from an external shotgun or Lav? Your shots are dead on Brother! Thank you! 💪👌👍
Cedar bark, one of my favorite natural tinders, we have good fatwood in this area, I keep some of the best pieces I found in my fire kit. Is that a Mora Bushcraft Black or the Pathfinder edition? I have a Carbon Garberg in a similar dangler sheath to yours, I think it's a JRE Brown Leather Dangler as my main knife, I also have a Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe and Silky Big Boy 2000 XL Folding Saw.
I love cedar bark too. My go-to tinder when I’m out there. That was the Mora Bushcraft Black. I’m wanting a Gransfor Bruk axe. Just haven’t been able to pull the trigger yet. I use a Silky sometimes too but mostly the Boreal 21. Both are great.
@@joshinthewoodsyt yeah man they're both great saws, I waited a while to get my Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe, my wife has the Gransfors Bruk Small Forest Axe and Silky Gomboy 240, same Mora Carbon Garberg as me. I got both Gransfors axes early in 2020 with stimulus and paychecks coming in lol, they are really nice axes, worth the money in my opinion. Before that, I used the Husqvarna Multipurpose Forest Axe, it's about half the cost of the Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe, and a great axe, I had to polish the grind marks out of the bit, and I took a file to the original grind to give it a better edge geometry, Skillcult here on TH-cam has a great series of videos on it. That was kinda fun in itself, a learning experience. But even as is, the Husqvarna is an awesome axe, especially for the price. Just put a few coats of linseed oil on the handle and you're ready to go. Hults Bruks makes a cheaper line of axes as well, I think they're called the Agdor line or something like that. They have one identical to the Husqvarna Multipurpose Forest Axe because that's who males the Husqvarna. They also have a Camp Axe if you'd rather have something a bit smaller, more in the Small Forest Axe or Hatchet size range. The only real complaint about the Husqvarna is the sheath, it needs to be upgraded, but Etsy has some and Review Outdoor Gear makes some really nice ones available on Amazon and other websites. I promise you'd love the Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe tho, it is worth the money and you can pass it down to whoever you want, for generations. I felt that way towards it, the Modular Sleep System, and all sorts of gear, but I'm glad I got them all, makes my outings much more enjoyable. Plus I have them for life. Anyways, take it easy brother and stay safe out there.
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@@JohnDoe-cd6ro black bag is the thicker warmer one. Havent slept in the green yet but black one actually gets too warm have to unzip it. Only used it in summer night temps 55 to 60.
If you have the green bag too, you’d have been fine if you’d used it inside the black bag. Good stuff.
I have the green bag also. Didn’t think I would need it on this particular night but it would’ve come in handy. Thank you, my friend!
Your supposed to put black bag in the green one. Green says good to frost. 30 deg. At that temp though i would use black bag.
Amazingly the instructions on the bags say with both can go below 0 fahrenheit which for me is beyond comfort for camping anyways. Gore tex bivvy is awesome. Waterproof but you dont sweat or get condensation inside the bag.
Everytime you yawn, I yawn.
Hello, thanks for the video. I used the exact same sleep system in Colorado western slopes and when is cold I covered my bivy with pine branches to add insulation (I used it also under) . In your situation I will have used the leaves.
Not a bad idea. I had of plenty of leaves around to use. Thank you, my friend.
What is the total weight of all the cases, waxed bags, and containers for your gear? I like to be organized as much as the next hiker but ...
@@Sirrehpotsirch I’m sure it was pretty heavy but I don’t remember on this particular camp out. I’ve since decided to shed some of that weight and cut out a lot of the waxed canvas pouches and other areas where I can go lighter.
I guess having been trained a certain way the video made me cringe at points, as the advantage of the MSS system, or other systems like a Vietnam Ranger Roll or old school cowboy roll is to have everything ready to throw down and sleep in within 1 minute.
Snap the black bag into the bivvy before you leave the house. Insert the deflated mattress pad inside the roll and roll it all up together. This way, you just throw the Bivvy down, inflate done. Too many bags n stuff sacks being taken out of the bag. Takes too long to clear out in case of an emergency.
Of course, with that said for best practice army protocol, the fact he brought beer…..who the heck cares. Take your time. I’d rather camp w beer and be slow not following protocol. :)
I get it, my friend. I can definitely understand what you’re saying and it all makes perfect sense. I’m just having fun in the woods … with beer!
Hi, thanks for the video :) I’ve got MSS too and I love it! I’m thinking about upgrading my pad to Thermarest Xtherm. What size of the pad have you used? The pad is quite thick and I’m worrying if there is still space for the sleeping bag to decompress. Does it work freely or the setup is a bit squeezy?
It was fine for me inside the bivy but it could be used on the outside of the bivy as well. I just wanted to keep it in place and that’s easier when it’s inside. I use the regular size pad and it’s great for something like this, where I want to slip it inside the bivy. If I’m tent camping I like a wider pad. The regular Xtherm is pretty narrow.
@@joshinthewoodsyt thank you for your quick response!
Putting pad inside seems to be much more convenient and save for the pad. I wish it would be possible with the wide version. Regular is narrow indeed but it is the only way to go inside, is that correct? Do you think the xtherm is strong enough to use it on the ground without any layer under it?
@@filipbasara9017I wouldn’t use it on the bare ground without some sort of ground sheet. Xtherm’s are too pricey to be taking any chances with. I’ve never tried any other pad inside the MSS so I’m not sure about if anything larger will fit or not.
Suggestion: Try cutting a wooden wedge from the first medium-sized piece of wood you split, and use that once you baton an entry crack. That would save your knife, and put more leverage into the split.
I appreciate the suggestion, my friend. I’ll give it a try. Thank you.
Could not see you eating anyway it's to dark you started diner to late to see anything
Things don’t always work out the way you want.
Nicely done my friend. Enjoyed watching that. 👍
Thank you, brother. I appreciate you tuning in!
I'm from Maryville and I LOVE snow camping in the GSMNP
I’m just right down the road in Cleveland. Thanks for stopping by, brother.
As soon as you said "Beers" i was sold
Not much better than beers and camping!
Thanks for a honest video on all...Myself got the MSS system..I'm more of a fall/ Winter person..I know TN/KY weather as I was station in Ft. Campbell 88-92...Clarksville and Hopkinsville and surrounding area ..
Just stumbled across your video and enjoyed it ..Take care...And got new subscriber...
Thank you, my friend. I plan on using it again this year when the temps cool down. I appreciate the sub!
Outstanding
Thank you, my friend.
Ready to ride out the zombie apocalypse 😁 seriously though, I have an MSS bivy too for a few years now and still haven't used it.
I wish I would’ve started using it earlier. Pretty cool piece of gear. And bring on them zombies!
Get out into the action
Good video. Gives me some ideas for deploying my MMSS. I gave-up on Mora knives. Too short. I keep the Laplander for detail work.
Josh, the Seal brand gloves that you wear when sawing look very robust. ?!
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Where in Tennessee did you say you were camping at?
I'm here in east Tennessee as well, I live on Norris Lake. I love my MSS, it's my favorite piece of gear, ILBE Main Pack is my 2nd. Nice video man, just subbed. I don't know where you're at but we have some cool stores for bushcraft and survival. More to Life Outfitters in Clinton Tn, and of course Smoky Mountain Knife Works in Sevierville. I'm sure you know about these, but I thought I'd run it by you just in case.
Thank you, brother. I was just in Sevierville over the weekend. I’m from Cleveland, near Chattanooga. Thanks for the subbed, I appreciate it.
Great vid, highly enjoyed. What cam/lens you running? You using manual focus, single or continuous AF? Also, is the audio from an external shotgun or Lav? Your shots are dead on Brother! Thank you! 💪👌👍
Thank you! Canon M50, 22mm lens on most shots. I always use manual focus. Rode Video Micro for audio.
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Cedar bark, one of my favorite natural tinders, we have good fatwood in this area, I keep some of the best pieces I found in my fire kit. Is that a Mora Bushcraft Black or the Pathfinder edition? I have a Carbon Garberg in a similar dangler sheath to yours, I think it's a JRE Brown Leather Dangler as my main knife, I also have a Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe and Silky Big Boy 2000 XL Folding Saw.
I love cedar bark too. My go-to tinder when I’m out there. That was the Mora Bushcraft Black. I’m wanting a Gransfor Bruk axe. Just haven’t been able to pull the trigger yet. I use a Silky sometimes too but mostly the Boreal 21. Both are great.
@@joshinthewoodsyt yeah man they're both great saws, I waited a while to get my Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe, my wife has the Gransfors Bruk Small Forest Axe and Silky Gomboy 240, same Mora Carbon Garberg as me. I got both Gransfors axes early in 2020 with stimulus and paychecks coming in lol, they are really nice axes, worth the money in my opinion. Before that, I used the Husqvarna Multipurpose Forest Axe, it's about half the cost of the Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe, and a great axe, I had to polish the grind marks out of the bit, and I took a file to the original grind to give it a better edge geometry, Skillcult here on TH-cam has a great series of videos on it. That was kinda fun in itself, a learning experience. But even as is, the Husqvarna is an awesome axe, especially for the price. Just put a few coats of linseed oil on the handle and you're ready to go. Hults Bruks makes a cheaper line of axes as well, I think they're called the Agdor line or something like that. They have one identical to the Husqvarna Multipurpose Forest Axe because that's who males the Husqvarna. They also have a Camp Axe if you'd rather have something a bit smaller, more in the Small Forest Axe or Hatchet size range. The only real complaint about the Husqvarna is the sheath, it needs to be upgraded, but Etsy has some and Review Outdoor Gear makes some really nice ones available on Amazon and other websites. I promise you'd love the Gransfors Bruk Scandinavian Forest Axe tho, it is worth the money and you can pass it down to whoever you want, for generations. I felt that way towards it, the Modular Sleep System, and all sorts of gear, but I'm glad I got them all, makes my outings much more enjoyable. Plus I have them for life. Anyways, take it easy brother and stay safe out there.
Sure was a lil Cool. Great Time Spent With Ya Josh, Hay Leland, Hope 2021 Is Kinder To Us All, Happy Trails From The Frosty Maritimes In Canada ! ATB T God Bless
As always, thank you, buddy. Leland says "hey" back at ya.
I just bought the mss biyy and found your film about it…thanks.
Thank you, my friend. Enjoy that MSS bivy!
I used mss bivy black bag ground pad and pocho 2x so far. Best sleep ever. Even in a pouring rain for a couple hours.
The black bag is the jungle bag or the intermediate winter bag? I'm learning all this stuff now.
@@JohnDoe-cd6ro black bag is the thicker warmer one. Havent slept in the green yet but black one actually gets too warm have to unzip it. Only used it in summer night temps 55 to 60.
Thanks for your time
Your filming and editing is great! I love your channel, subscribed!
Thank you, my friend. I truly appreciate it!
Looks like a fun outing!
It definitely was, my friend. Cant wait to do another bivy camp soon!
Awsome bevy camping
Thank you, brother. That was a fun trip.