Did you know you can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation.
Hello John, im a young man, 17 and your experiences and willingness to share them in hope to help has given me great great hope in myself:) thank you John
Hearing John talk, helps reassure me so much that I'm doing just fine plodding along from day to day. I have no ambition in life other than to strive to be happy and healthy and do no harm. Simplify my life and find a quiet sense of peace. Thanks John.
The great thing about John is he is incapable of causing offence. Just a softly spoken peaceful, articulate man. No matter what you believe he is interesting to listen to
I agree but believe it or not He will still cause offense to many people incapable of grasping the paradoxical sheer almighty brilliance of Zen or god or dao or stillness many words for it !
You are doing something, John. Something wonderful. You're sharing knowledge and insight with hundreds of people who badly need peace and wisdom in their lives. Thank you :)
john you’re helping a lot of people (including me) with the knowledge you’ve gained through your meditation. mental illness is a plague right now and your videos have helped people find perspective or a way to cope. you remind us that everything will be ok. so thank you for doing something for all of us who hear your message :)
I hope Me Butler knows his life work from his youth helping in S.America to his daily meditations silently happening over the decades has culminated in what his heart has always wanted. He is doing something and has been. Now the fruits are being shown in these videos. We’re fortunate to find ourselves here, hearing his story. This is a modern day Confessions of a Saint.
Thank you John for being willing to share your life events, ups and downs... Thank you for your honesty and just being real and always accurate with your stories. Your accounts never change so I can tell your a man of integrity and that means a lot to me in this day and age... Thank you!
Seriously, dear Olivia, you can, for what am I? Here and now, just listen, look, and you'll find yourself quietly present. Feel the great Presence, and ask yourself, "Where do I end and John begin?"
I think meditation and reflection is so vital. And since discovering John and this channel, I have become wholly inspired by his philosophy, biography, and his teachings. I’m exceedingly grateful for stillness and for John sharing his life and beliefs with us all. Because of it, I have come to feel much more grounded despite our troubled times, and more in touch with my spirituality too. Plus, I find John’s voice to be one of the most compelling I’ve ever heard. Thank you.
TYpe Moses on Wikipedia and learn what a total dumbfuck you are, Rube. Brainwashing is fun, but the wags bet cash on facts, not the invisible world - created by Christian Hustlers, Cupcake.
Thanks, John. Your humility and love are inspiring. You inspire me to go deeper and deeper. To hear of the troubles you have been through and the peace you have found gives me hope. Good work John.
Mr butler, I hope you live forever... well.. i know you will as we all do, but at least 20 more years here! we have a lot to learn from you! Love the videos, keep em coming!❤✌😇
I just discovered John a few days ago. He is the first person that I can really connect with as one of the most profound people since my connection with a woman that walked across the U.S. for 28 some years known as Peace Pilgrim. Am disappointed that he transitioned 9 days before my birthday last year. I would have like to have sent him a message of great appreciation for sharing his divine message from spirit.
"There are no questions there, no doubts, no uncertainty". This fascinates me. That we have an ability to reach such a position during our existence. I'm a million miles from such clarity but what strikes me most is; what have we done to ourselves!
"Rather than me being the doer of good, it is the spirit doing the good and I am an obstacle of it". This is a very eye-opening perspective of life. Assuming the spirit is 'stillness' and 'presence', I am interpreting Mr. Butler's insight to mean that we can do good simply by 'being' instead of feeling the need to act. This may not apply to every situation but in my experience, asserting a calm demeanor and speaking/acting only when it is requested of me, seems to produce a warmer atmosphere for those persons in my presence.
Dear John on my own path to realization by just observing you has brought me to many revelations and looking back I see that it has all been the same revelation everytime. Just thank you for the love you mean more than I can express. Best wishes for you
We want more...we want more...I know we are not on a concert but...but silence of John penetrate into my heart and body and wake up joyful spirit more the a music at a biggest concert!!!
Hi Great video and so glad it's back in the church. There is a resonance and a depth that did not quite come through in the other location. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next offering. Love and Peace
That was brilliant. I could listen and be with John all day. I can feel his wisdom. There is no question but a request. Is it possible just to hear him continue to speak about his knowingness and how we can live in full filament and freedom. That will be gratifying. Thankyou
Thank you John for sharing your wisdom. No doubt that this work of yours is your biggest gift to humanity. Your message obviously resonates with many of those who have been fortunate enough to hear it. Your truth is simple and real.
Thank you John for all the great spiritual work you’ve done in your life! It reverberates across the heart of humanity past, present and to come. Being comes before doing and there is no better therapy for our being than the Divine Therapy (as described by Thomas Keating) we go to when we meditate.
Is he dead? Sorry i just found out that great Man like two days ago and now i'm watching videos with him every evenig befor i fell asleep, its very relaxing to hear him speak
Absolutely love your videos. Thank you John & Phil. I really liked this format too, with the guests. Maybe you could do a q&a section with some videos where John can answer questions asked by your TH-cam listeners. Keep up the good work, always love it when a new video pops up! Xx
@12:50: He has watched the world change to something alien. The culture alone has changed so much, the world he grew with is for all purposes, dead. That should be enough to make him bitter and afraid. He is neither. That is testament to the power and worth of Spirit. Thanks for the work Jon (and Phil).
Super Glued It is incredible to think how dramatically the world has changed in his lifetime, I shudder to think just it will look like in another 50 years time.
He isn't bitter or afraid of the modern world because,in every way,he lives on the outskirts of it. Funny how gurus never live in high rise hell.Be interested to see how long their peace would last in the grind that's assaults most people daily. That said, a part of me likes John....I think think
I think some people have forgotten that everyone has their own calling... I think he is trying to tell people how to be happy with their life... well what made him happy and "whole" in life.
Somebody once said that to me.. "You need to take care of yourself and better your own life before you can help others..." I've been doing that ever since. I'm always trying to find ways of self improvement. If something about my personality, or the way I react to something makes me feel "this isn't who I am.." I work out why I'm that way and try to fix it and understand it. It's a journey of enlightenment.
Dear john I love your talks they. Help even an old j lady like me I cannot see very well .thank you Phil too love mae the world go round, ,,Lydia corbett,xx
Dear John. I benefit so much from listening to your commentary. I especially harken to your advice to be wary of conceptual questions whoch obtrude into the world of spaciousness. These searching and seemingly plausible thoughts are so often a block to simple life. Thank you Thank you. Tim from Ireland and friend of Noel.x
Yes, 'sitting' is the disease of the 21st Century is what I heard, so when I asked my Zen teacher what he was doing, he said: Just Standing. Meditation is doing one thing at a time, that's all. The fall, or the curse upon the fall remains the fundamental problem we've addressed, and we're adapting to billions of cursors online now. Fatherland has been replaced by Motherland, and I support your effort to divine just what it is that Mother expects of us. I wholeheartedly agree to follow along to do what's right, but like you, I don't always know what to do next, so I meditate until the right answer comes, as you do.
John seems younger looking . Is it just me noticing? Maybe now the the whole world is interested in his wisdom and listening to what he has to say about everything he has a new purpose. I hope John isn’t overwhelmed by all the attention.
Hey guys, I really enjoyed this video and the different format you are trying out. You all touched upon so many things I can reallly relate to, especially helping yourself before you try to help others. Its interesting to hear other perspectives in the mix, wish I lived close enough to visit with you myself. Maybe one day you could do an online Q & A sometime, seems as if there is still much to learn from you. ☺🙏❤
I LOVE JOHN AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING. MOST OF OUR LIVES ARE LIVED IN ILLUSION. THINKING SOMETHING IS AGAINST US IS THERE, BUT IS NOT THERE. LOVE IS ALL THERE IS. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE IS THE RAY OF CREATION BY WHICH IS GOD'S LIGHT OF OUR WORLD.
he's in la la land of touch with the 'real world'...like many 'guru types' who want to get into the rarified 'too spiritual' life they remove themselves from 'regular living' and sit on their 'mountain tops' looking down on others...if everyone was like John the world would be dull, lack playfulness, wildness and giggles...God is 'wild'...i am not a 'corrupt' being...he's clocked up bla bla hours in meditation...pure 'escapism'...i sound like i'm knocking him , guess i am...he sets himself up as an example of how 'others ought to be' and now way...Tollee, Papaji, Mooji, Dyer, Jung, Hillman, Thomas Moore and so many other people 'live in the real world'...this guy is 'sitting on top of a mountain'...good for him...wonderful...i trust and pray you love it there and live in the lap of peace beyond all understanding...he's escaped the everyday and decides not to 'engage' the ego and wildness and spontaneity...he come unglued standing in line at an airport counter...of course he's not going to be at an airport counter...anyone who lives in the church with those surroundings can 'easily be spiritual'...no big deal...etc.
John, your meditation is the only best thing to do according to you is because it's not really meditation, as you have answered it yourself, its like a prayer. Basically, you are saying, meditation, which is spending time with your Creator, is the best thing anyone can do, especially those who 'tries to do something'. Therefore, if you want to make a difference, spend time with Jesus/God, and by no planned effort and your soothing voice, thousands ending up trying this life-changing 'no use' meditation. Some get the bonus of eternal life too. You rock 'Treebeard'.
Did you know you can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation.
Hello John, im a young man, 17 and your experiences and willingness to share them in hope to help has given me great great hope in myself:) thank you John
How are u now man?
How you doing?
@@repopackman7560 I’ve been doing so much better in life, working and socializing, feel blessed to be alive
Hearing John talk, helps reassure me so much that I'm doing just fine plodding along from day to day. I have no ambition in life other than to strive to be happy and healthy and do no harm. Simplify my life and find a quiet sense of peace. Thanks John.
That's exactly how I am too! I have been meditating as well, but I have no real material ambitions.
That's lovely I wish you well 🙏🏻
@@kathybuckley2338 Thank you very much.
The productivism of the modern world is too powerful a machine
Brainwashing makes you a happy happy happy Rube.
The great thing about John is he is incapable of causing offence. Just a softly spoken peaceful, articulate man. No matter what you believe he is interesting to listen to
He's causing me offence with his constant lip smacking.
Ryan Ford I never asked bitch
@@styled590 XD
I agree but believe it or not
He will still cause offense to many people incapable of grasping the paradoxical sheer almighty brilliance of Zen or god or dao or stillness many words for it !
@@SkyScannerBtown there are some people who choose to be offended by anything, no point worrying about those people
John, you are a true beacon of hope on this disturbed world of today. Many thanks and love from Chile.
zatoichiMiyamoto I love you John ❤️ you bring me closer to what is most important, and give me hope. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️❤️❤️
Chocolate Tastes Like Chocolate he kinda does it every time he speaksn't
Wena wena
@@Prisoner wena choro
Wena shushetumare.
You are doing something, John. Something wonderful. You're sharing knowledge and insight with hundreds of people who badly need peace and wisdom in their lives. Thank you :)
Brainwashing works and pays cash for slick hustlers, Cupcake!!!!!!!!!!
john you’re helping a lot of people (including me) with the knowledge you’ve gained through your meditation. mental illness is a plague right now and your videos have helped people find perspective or a way to cope. you remind us that everything will be ok. so thank you for doing something for all of us who hear your message :)
I hope Me Butler knows his life work from his youth helping in S.America to his daily meditations silently happening over the decades has culminated in what his heart has always wanted. He is doing something and has been. Now the fruits are being shown in these videos. We’re fortunate to find ourselves here, hearing his story. This is a modern day Confessions of a Saint.
Meditation and stillness are the medicine for my soul. I love the John Butler video series. Please continue.
Type Moses on Wikipedia and learn what a total dumbfuck you are, Rube.
Thank you John for being willing to share your life events, ups and downs... Thank you for your honesty and just being real and always accurate with your stories. Your accounts never change so I can tell your a man of integrity and that means a lot to me in this day and age... Thank you!
John lives in the here and now, what an awesome place to be
I wish i could follow john around for a day
Olivia j you probably could, but he might run away from you when he noticed you were stalking him (just kidding ;), John is indeed a fascinating guy)
Judging from the intro he doesn't walk too fast, I'm sure you could follow him if you're not in indecent shape.
Seriously, dear Olivia, you can, for what am I? Here and now, just listen, look, and you'll find yourself quietly present. Feel the great Presence, and ask yourself, "Where do I end and John begin?"
Spiritual Unfoldment thank you❤
Olivia j Creepy
John Butler - The Spirit Whisperer! By speaking so slowly and calmly, we are drawn in deeper. Thank you, John , wherever you may be🙏
Guided meditation by John would be great.
Agree agree agree! Immersing the spirit in "silence" sounds so simple yet can be near impossible!
Απλά ο, τι καλύτερο για να κοιμηθω
Yes!
That would be nice. I hope they read this and make it happen.
THIS MUST HAPPEN
Any "venue" is perfection....thank u all
Thank you John. You are a blessing from God.
I think meditation and reflection is so vital. And since discovering John and this channel, I have become wholly inspired by his philosophy, biography, and his teachings. I’m exceedingly grateful for stillness and for John sharing his life and beliefs with us all. Because of it, I have come to feel much more grounded despite our troubled times, and more in touch with my spirituality too. Plus, I find John’s voice to be one of the most compelling I’ve ever heard. Thank you.
TYpe Moses on Wikipedia and learn what a total dumbfuck you are, Rube. Brainwashing is fun, but the wags bet cash on facts, not the invisible world - created by Christian Hustlers, Cupcake.
Mr Butler, you are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your many stories and wisdom.
I feel so full of love after watching and listening to you John. Thank you so much. I agree that a guided meditation would be wonderful.
John's so wise that even Vincent Van Gogh shows up at the 18 minute mark to ask his advice!
Mr Butler is heaven sent. He has helped me so much. Never question why . Just listen . Deep silence
John is so beautiful..we send you love from Dublin 💖
And does Dublin love me?
@@chris61981 obviously not.
@@Entschuldigungen it does
@@chris61981 I just tried to be funny.
@@chris61981 of course it does.
Thank you so much. These videos are wonderful. I listen to them again and again.
Thanks, John. Your humility and love are inspiring. You inspire me to go deeper and deeper. To hear of the troubles you have been through and the peace you have found gives me hope. Good work John.
Mr butler, I hope you live forever... well.. i know you will as we all do, but at least 20 more years here! we have a lot to learn from you! Love the videos, keep em coming!❤✌😇
So much gratitude and appreciation for you John. Blessings and love to you sir.
I just discovered John a few days ago. He is the first person that I can really connect with as one of the most profound people since my connection with a woman that walked across the U.S. for 28 some years known as Peace Pilgrim. Am disappointed that he transitioned 9 days before my birthday last year. I would have like to have sent him a message of great appreciation for sharing his divine message from spirit.
Thank you.
"There are no questions there, no doubts, no uncertainty". This fascinates me. That we have an ability to reach such a position during our existence. I'm a million miles from such clarity but what strikes me most is; what have we done to ourselves!
Good to see you back John, hope you're in good health
"Rather than me being the doer of good, it is the spirit doing the good and I am an obstacle of it". This is a very eye-opening perspective of life. Assuming the spirit is 'stillness' and 'presence', I am interpreting Mr. Butler's insight to mean that we can do good simply by 'being' instead of feeling the need to act. This may not apply to every situation but in my experience, asserting a calm demeanor and speaking/acting only when it is requested of me, seems to produce a warmer atmosphere for those persons in my presence.
My boy is the best ASMRtist and he’s not even trying.
Some Cynical Asshole
Right! 🤣
Cuz eye pooted
Much better than those camgirls on here that dress like strippers and just whisper for 30 minutes.
He was for me for about 1 video then I'd just spend the whole time listening to him attentively instead of sleepin
Starting my mornings with John Butler has been a true God-send. Thank you 🙏🥰❤️
Dear John on my own path to realization by just observing you has brought me to many revelations and looking back I see that it has all been the same revelation everytime. Just thank you for the love you mean more than I can express. Best wishes for you
We want more...we want more...I know we are not on a concert but...but silence of John penetrate into my heart and body and wake up joyful spirit more the a music at a biggest concert!!!
Your humble way of bringing so much wisdom 'namaste', thankyou John
Dear John, you are a true blessing in my spiritual life thus enriching and stabilizing my daily life. May God bless you and keep you,,thank you again🕊
Love it, we are now going to listen to it again. Great format.
Every time a previously unviewed video appears it's a new treasure!
About to be 30 yrs old tmrw...my spirit wailes but I understand I am the prevailer of my life. Thank you God and teachers, for all your wisdom.
I really love the “harvest” analogy! John’s spiritual garden is eternal🙏
Hi Great video and so glad it's back in the church. There is a resonance and a depth that did not quite come through in the other location. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next offering.
Love and Peace
That was brilliant. I could listen and be with John all day. I can feel his wisdom. There is no question but a request. Is it possible just to hear him continue to speak about his knowingness and how we can live in full filament and freedom. That will be gratifying. Thankyou
Brainwashing makes the Christian cult thrive, without ever checking any Bible facts!!! It's a miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you John for sharing your wisdom. No doubt that this work of yours is your biggest gift to humanity. Your message obviously resonates with many of those who have been fortunate enough to hear it. Your truth is simple and real.
Thank you John for all the great spiritual work you’ve done in your life! It reverberates across the heart of humanity past, present and to come. Being comes before doing and there is no better therapy for our being than the Divine Therapy (as described by Thomas Keating) we go to when we meditate.
I could listen to John talk for hours but I usually fall asleep in 20 mins
I'm so happy to see another video from you. I do enjoy to listening to your stories and experiences.
I appreciate you so much Mr. Butler, God bless you.
You are leading by example John which is more than what most can say. Thank you for the enlightening videos
Thankyou John for sharing what you have learnt on your journey thus far
The peace of God is tangible
Great Title! Thank you! I love you!
I'm happy you're taking the time to let what John says sink into the dynamic of your conversation. Makes for real meaning and also real relaxation . .
Just purchased a t-shirt with “feet on the ground” on the front. What a wonderful and simplistic message! Love these videos!
So much gratitude for sharing your thoughts and knowledge with us ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
We Missed You John.
Is he dead? Sorry i just found out that great Man like two days ago and now i'm watching videos with him every evenig befor i fell asleep, its very relaxing to hear him speak
@@a.l2025 he's alive and well.
These videos are so great!
John Butler is an Ent!!!!
Ear, nose and throat?
Absolutely love your videos. Thank you John & Phil. I really liked this format too, with the guests. Maybe you could do a q&a section with some videos where John can answer questions asked by your TH-cam listeners. Keep up the good work, always love it when a new video pops up! Xx
Do something? You’re clearly doing it. Thank Y✨U.
A delight on many levels, as usual.. Thank you
@12:50: He has watched the world change to something alien. The culture alone has changed so much, the world he grew with is for all purposes, dead. That should be enough to make him bitter and afraid. He is neither. That is testament to the power and worth of Spirit. Thanks for the work Jon (and Phil).
Super Glued It is incredible to think how dramatically the world has changed in his lifetime, I shudder to think just it will look like in another 50 years time.
He isn't bitter or afraid of the modern world because,in every way,he lives on the outskirts of it. Funny how gurus never live in high rise hell.Be interested to see how long their peace would last in the grind that's assaults most people daily. That said, a part of me likes John....I think think
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
Incredible video. I clicked as soon as I saw this in my feed. I was NOT disappointed! :)
I love it, thank you guys🙏🏻
A beautiful soul. Thank you for taking the time to make these and share what you have learned in your life’s time.
You are touching lives, merely by speaking your words of wisdom.🙂, including mine.Thank you.
I think some people have forgotten that everyone has their own calling... I think he is trying to tell people how to be happy with their life... well what made him happy and "whole" in life.
Simply thank you so much, John. It was so full of bright Light
Your words john are useful to me.....
I still want to hug this guy.
Me too1
Listening from Tulsa Oklahoma I watch all the videos God bless
Love your videos guys. Keep up the good work.
Thank you John!
Somebody once said that to me.. "You need to take care of yourself and better your own life before you can help others..." I've been doing that ever since. I'm always trying to find ways of self improvement. If something about my personality, or the way I react to something makes me feel "this isn't who I am.." I work out why I'm that way and try to fix it and understand it. It's a journey of enlightenment.
Great format!
Another wonderful video thank u so much makes me so happy every time a video comes up
Thank you
Thank you grandpa..
John, you are an inspiration, I am learning so much about stillness. It's so simple, but so amazing! Would love to meet you one day. Tina x
Tina - you would be very welcome
Spiritual Unfoldment thank you very much. That means so much x
Absolutely, with meditation all this things are left behind.. Its only presence..
Love the new video! Yes, guided meditation by John would be great. Don't know where to put my attention during meditation! Please help!
Happy now.. 've been waiting for so long
Such a wise and spiritual soul
Dear john I love your talks they. Help even an old j lady like me I cannot see very well .thank you Phil too love mae the world go round, ,,Lydia corbett,xx
All I want is peace & to feel as though I don't need nothing else
My guy John is a duel wielder
Dear John. I benefit so much from listening to your commentary. I especially harken to your advice to be wary of conceptual questions whoch obtrude into the world of spaciousness. These searching and seemingly plausible thoughts are so often a block to simple life. Thank you Thank you. Tim from Ireland and friend of Noel.x
Yes, 'sitting' is the disease of the 21st Century is what I heard, so when I asked my Zen teacher what he was doing, he said: Just Standing. Meditation is doing one thing at a time, that's all. The fall, or the curse upon the fall remains the fundamental problem we've addressed, and we're adapting to billions of cursors online now.
Fatherland has been replaced by Motherland, and I support your effort to divine just what it is that Mother expects of us. I wholeheartedly agree to follow along to do what's right, but like you, I don't always know what to do next, so I meditate until the right answer comes, as you do.
John seems younger looking . Is it just me noticing? Maybe now the the whole world is interested in his wisdom and listening to what he has to say about everything he has a new purpose. I hope John isn’t overwhelmed by all the attention.
What a sweet, kind message. So far surviving, thank you!
@@SpiritualUnfoldment Thank you, John. I have been into asmr the past few decades, and yours is incredibly awesome.
As Spiritually as he still very Humble.
my guiding light 🌹
You have helped me so much during a very difficult period of my life. Thank you so much John
Well said John. You have bought some comfort to this confused soul. Thank you.
Hey guys, I really enjoyed this video and the different format you are trying out. You all touched upon so many things I can reallly relate to, especially helping yourself before you try to help others. Its interesting to hear other perspectives in the mix, wish I lived close enough to visit with you myself. Maybe one day you could do an online Q & A sometime, seems as if there is still much to learn from you. ☺🙏❤
This was a delight.
I LOVE JOHN AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING. MOST OF OUR LIVES ARE LIVED IN ILLUSION. THINKING SOMETHING IS AGAINST US IS THERE, BUT IS NOT THERE. LOVE IS ALL THERE IS. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE IS THE RAY OF CREATION BY WHICH IS GOD'S LIGHT OF OUR WORLD.
This is too much for me. Thank you
he's in la la land of touch with the 'real world'...like many 'guru types' who want to get into the rarified 'too spiritual' life they remove themselves from 'regular living' and sit on their 'mountain tops' looking down on others...if everyone was like John the world would be dull, lack playfulness, wildness and giggles...God is 'wild'...i am not a 'corrupt' being...he's clocked up bla bla hours in meditation...pure 'escapism'...i sound like i'm knocking him , guess i am...he sets himself up as an example of how 'others ought to be' and now way...Tollee, Papaji, Mooji, Dyer, Jung, Hillman, Thomas Moore and so many other people 'live in the real world'...this guy is 'sitting on top of a mountain'...good for him...wonderful...i trust and pray you love it there and live in the lap of peace beyond all understanding...he's escaped the everyday and decides not to 'engage' the ego and wildness and spontaneity...he come unglued standing in line at an airport counter...of course he's not going to be at an airport counter...anyone who lives in the church with those surroundings can 'easily be spiritual'...no big deal...etc.
You can never answer the ego with the ego, that is the mind made state
John, your meditation is the only best thing to do according to you is because it's not really meditation, as you have answered it yourself, its like a prayer. Basically, you are saying, meditation, which is spending time with your Creator, is the best thing anyone can do, especially those who 'tries to do something'. Therefore, if you want to make a difference, spend time with Jesus/God, and by no planned effort and your soothing voice, thousands ending up trying this life-changing 'no use' meditation. Some get the bonus of eternal life too. You rock 'Treebeard'.