Alberto Contador and Emma Pooley BREAK EVERESTING World Record : Analysis
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Tis the season to do the big climb up to the top of mt everest on your bicycle but not the actual mt everest, that would be impossible, you probably couldn't carry the oxygen tank on your back to make it up the top maybe Victor Campanaerts could do it though because he has been doing intervals at 10,000m altitude anyway, El Pistolero Alberto Contador, not satisfied with 7 grand tour victories, broke the everesting world record in Spain last week with a time of 7 hours and 27 minutes. Emma Pooley also joined in the fun, setting a new record of 8 hours and 53 minutes in Switzerland on a long and very steep climb. Congrats to the both of them.
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I remember Emma from GCN, what an absolute machine!
She is a really strong cyclist.
Damn. Never even realized that was her on GCN until I read your comment. Insane.
I missed her when I was still watching GCN. She is nice and competent.
You remember her from GCN? So you don't recall her classics win, grand tour wins, giro QOM, world championships in TT and Duathlon, Olympic silver medal and her killer domestique performance for Nicole Cooke at the 2008 Olympics? She is bit more than a strong rider on a YT channel.
Chris Morris correct
My pick is for Emma Pooley to break her own record by a huge margin on a better climb.
Although she said she wouldn't do it ever again, she said she would do it differently if there is another attempt. Now she knows what's the best gear setup, etc. We can give her a while and she might change her mind.
Might require a big charity cause and some serious boredom.
I'm surprised his iPhone battery lasted long enough to record it 😂
Tom & Rachelles First Dance iPhone battery life jokes are so 2018.
Lars not if you have my phone
Brah. I can’t make it through a 4 hour ride. In 2020 iPhone brah
Suka Schultz i did 7 hours ride with my iphone x no problem at all
Nowadays, bike computers do allow GPS date to be recorded. Aftermarket iPhone batteries last longer than standard
lance armstrong. He needs the publicity and there is no drug testing.
2014 contador would smash this by a half hour
2009 contador would smash this by an hour
2012 Contador not caught doping would smash that by 1h15 min :D
Doper Contador would crush that time! So? I'd rather see him off the juice.
Contadors splits probably dropped because its *f&^cking* hard mate :) Every pro or ex pro comments how horrendous this challenge is.
nope, contador used a headunit to record power and all his stats which hells500 might have had access to in order to verify the attempt. the reason for using the strava app is so that his power and HR data can be private
Gotta keep those numbers private in case his rivals see them!
@@LanterneRougeCycling Greg lemond has agents and detectives everywhere. vo2max Hawks
but at 2:50 we can see his avg. watts through each segment, can't we?
@@jonoferguson22 thats strava fake power
@@jonoferguson22 No that is strava's estimated power which is worthless
Lanterne, i heard that with every sale of one of those bikes you get a set of contador steak knives with them for free, for sure 8watt/kg FTP that way.
😂
lol
The problem that I foresee here is that with the increased interest from pro-riders and perhaps an increasing commercial factor, that Hell’s 500 will not have the resources or the ability to arbitrate and differentiate between very close attempts. They just examine Strava after all. This does not assess the quality of the recording device on the bike. It does not assess if there is any external assistance being bought to bear, such as a sneaky little motor, and importantly Strava elevations recorded on different head units can vary wildly, whose to say that the reference elevation that Strava has in its base topographic maps for all of the steep hills in the world is actually accurate? Have they been geospatially verified?
The Everesting thing started out as a celebration of amateur attempts at an enormous cycling challenge, open to anyone brave enough to try. I hope that this professionalisation doesn’t not destroy that inclusive and generous attitude.
Would love to see Ineos science the sh!t out of Everesting. Analyzing the perfect climb, drafting with riders switching in and out (like on 1:59), perfect nutrition, weather, road conditions etc.
I bet they could get a rider like Bernal to sub 7 hours.
Yep they could make it almost as interesting as the last 5 Tours. Would also be great to see them follow EF onto gravel and sciencing that too
Why??
Lasrach Tech. Last few TdFs weren’t so great, I agree. Nevertheless, since Everesting/Trenching is the hot new thing now, and the world‘s best have started to give it a shot, it would be very interesting to see what is possible. INEOS 1:59 was great Entertainment imo. It wasn’t Kipchoge against anyone else, it was humanity vs the limits of what i possible. The suspense is not whether Bernal can beat Contador. I mean, of course he can. It is rather how far can he go?
Seeing everything come together and seeing where improvements can be made, was pretty intriguing with INEOS 1:59. Additionally, cycling is a sport where a scientific approach can yield even greater improvements than in running.
Lars agreed, that approach can make for an interesting process! Just not sure things like everesting need ‘professionalisation’
Lasrach Tech. Of course it doesn’t „need“ professionalisation. 5 months ago, I would have laughed at the prospect of a World Tour team trying to break a Strava record. However, now with more and more pros doing it, I think we have some professionalism already.
Ineos would have never tried to take the record from someone like Gaimon. I mean, it is obvious that a current WT pro will be able to beat a former one at climbing. I don‘t expect Ineos to do it now, but maybe a few years down the line, when the record has become a lot more difficult to break and the margins of improvement become minimal.
Emma is so hard miss her a bunch on GCN... Great job Emma!!!
Male: Egan Bernal. Female: Annemiek van Vleuten.
My buddy broke the off-road record a month ago-had it verified and nobody flinched. Not cool unless it’s on the road?
Logan Wiebe I saw that on the strava app. Sad to see it not recognized. Didn’t it take them over 24 hours because they did it at a bike park?
GCN broke the garden dirt hour record too. But yeah no one cares, it's still slower than the real record
Spencer Paxson had been doing this every summer solstice for a few years. I don’t think it was ever official because it was before this year!
Bit hard to have an "off-road" record, when some dirt can be rock hard just like a paved surface, and on the other spectrum, deep gravel, or even soft sand....
@1:47 127 km/h ??
I’ve performed 9 Everests I would have never considered using my phone. There are climbs in my area where the phone would nearly double elevation gain. Anyway I’m a mere mortal and still looking for that elusive sub 12 hour Everest. 13:30 or so is my fastest total time.
still a great effort
Thank You Anthony!
WT: Van Vleuten (W) quintana (M)
None-WT: Chloe Dygart Owen (W) Nino Schurter (M)
Quintana and Van Vleuten would would absolutely demolish the record.
@@joshtipton7417 Yes thats probable. But now they will race, so no time for this stuff.
Chloe is 67 kg, she's not a climber..
I'm not sure for schurter because he trains fort an 1-2h intense effort rythmed by acceleration and sprint not an 7h effort but if he trains especially for it... 🤷♂️
@CRISTOBAL SANDOVAL MAC-DONALD yes that's true but that's not exactly the same effort i feel like there are some amateur or old pro/semi pro (wich are not 100% clean) who would beat him even tought i know he is really really strong i just don't know what is the real potential of XC riders as pure climber
Ed Laverack & Lionel Sanders. Bonus if you could personally get ol’ Harvey to do it, I’d pay to see that!
If you look at the photos he definitely has some sort of computer on his bike. Looks like an SRM. His other photos he uses a Garmin 1030 by the looks.
Also RE his last two reps, those were extras just to be sure of the elevation, but don’t count towards the 8848
As I said before: the fact that it can be broken this frequently and with 'just' weeks of dedicated training shows it can still be a lot faster. Why does the hour record not get broken every week? Because Campenaerts spend half a year training and optimizing everything they could for that record.
Even though hes retired, Contador is one of the best climbers that has ever been. And no serious pros have tried. Lachlan Morton is barely at pro level, and can't even win amateur gravel events.
@@jackcreek this comment aged poorly
Tbh I think Nairoman could smash the record
I think we need a Nairoman attempt with full commentary. "Nairoman! Nairoman! Nairoman!" (for 7+hours)
Who's wheel he gonna suck though?
Great job Emma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I noticed when she was on GCN that she couldn't descend for shit so she must of seriously smoked those climbs! 💪
They’re also on public roads so it might be too sketchy to descend quickly, but I wasn’t there so who knows
I listened to a podcast with her recently and it seems she’s worked on her descending skills a lot since then
@@elijahkwon422 that's impressive. She's not exactly in the fullness of youth and it seems like she's persevered and conquered her demons. You kind of expect such things from Contador even tho he's retired as well but her smashing this by like 15 minutes made my eyes bulge.
Emma always admitted descending and peloton tactics were her weaknesses, partly because she was late to cycling. She's a climber and time trialist.
Just letting you know that while Contador's Strava ride may have come from his iPhone, he did use a Garmin head unit to record the ride as well.
Amateur: phil gaimon
Pro: Primož Roglič
I did it faster than all these commenters.
Contador's got one of the SRM head units on his bike in the promotional video. Must've bugged out or something, so had to resort to a backup option (iPhone app)
That SRM (PC7) doesn't have gps, that's why the SRM file is not uploaded but the iphone one. He could had done it with a garmin, but I'm guessing he had to do SRM some publicity.
On mobile strava reads altitude so wrong. Just try yourself, a ride pretty flat (~400m of elevation on wahoo bolt) was ~750m on android phone...
@@aitoraltuna He has a new SRM, this was the old pic
Ciccone can do it!
Given what we know about cadence, why dont they choose lower gearing that doesnt force them down to 60 cadence.
Froome says his FTP is back to normal at 430w. If he can get to 67kgs (4 more than Contador in his Strava profile), then I guess Froome could knock a little off. Don't think we should underestimate Contador's effort though, it's mental. Women? Not sure.
Where did he say that?
@@raphaeltiziani7476 I was on a Zwift ride with him a couple of weeks ago, he was answering lots of questions, that was one of them.
@@ad9898 wow
For the amateur side, I would take Rowan Barrett, from Montréal. ( If he wants to...)
Charles-André Amiot ski vs Picoli ?
Frederic Beaudry, probablement, Barrett est plus léger...
About 3:43 mark you can see the SRM head unit on his bike.
Okay so are we just not talking about that slick LR mullet?
Are you saying that Alberto Contador climbed 29,409 feet in 7:33:37 mins...and only burned 8,131 calories...LMAO No way jose!!!! LOL Not even an eBike can do that..LOL Sorry, I rode 120 miles with 8,200 ft of climbing.. and burned 6500 calories..I was starving!!!! I would eat anything including the dead squirrel on the road...
I'd say it will be a young rider, who needs a contract and exposure - hungry. Could be somebody similar Pogachar, easy (if not himself). Similar for ladies
Emma can reduce that time significantly on a more appropriate climb
Emma Pooley did her record somewhere close to where she lives now. She could do it faster on a more optimal course.
Picking the steepest section of the long climb she used - would help with faster climbs (w/kg in her favor) and shorter descents if that is her weakness.
Man, about the iPhone use for recording the ride... How did he get the iPhone to record a ride for almost 8 hours without the battery dying flat !?!?!?!?
imo Pooley is best climber of all time. I have never watched someone so comfortable and composed on every climb in a race. Only reason she was never an elite elite rider was she couldn't descent to save her life.
Why does LR always disrespect Contador? When LR says Nairo Quintana or Mikel Landa etc he pronounces them correctly but whenever he says Alberto Contador he pronounces it like Nigel Thornberry (hyper Anglo) would.
Howard Grotts could take the record! Former pro mountain biker from Durango CO.
WT: Joe dombrowski, Egan bernal
Non WT: Adrien Costa (2016)
Amateur: Ed laverick
Independent cycling reviews. That was today's inside joke right?!
Now that every man and his dog is having a go, unless there's independent testing in place then you can probably assume that doping will become an issue. That's fine if it isn't taken too seriously like Hells 500 initially intended, but if it's an official record then something should be done to verify.
Speaking of a non world tour rider I think valentin65 is ahead of the bunch. This man is a machine!
During this pandemic it has been trendy to go for an "Everesting" record. It's awesome what these 2 have done recently but they would get demolished by a number of current pros and even some amateurs. Say if there was a decent check involved with the record or if pro teams competed within to get an Everesting record. I mean Nairo Quintana alone would destroy Contador's record. Probably be 6.5 hours or less on the right pass.
Please make a video just about Cantodor’s IGTV advert. Go full Snark!
WT: Bernal, Koppenburg
Non-WT: Jason Osborne, Eva Lindskog/Melanie Maurer
if chloe dygert cared about everesting i think she could get it. the amount of power she holds for short efforts, pursuit/TT, while also able to smash out climbs with the best climbers (colorado classic 2019) i think she would be able to take the record under 8:45. but w her in the eTDF that probably wont happen anytime soon
Not trying to downplay her talent because I think she is one of the top pros currently riding, but with the pursuit being her main focus, she probably has to much muscle at the moment to compete in an everesting challenge vs pure climbers. Chloe would probably set the qom though.
La Silla del Rey is located in Segovia, not in Madrid. It´s not the same. Correct it, please... thanks.
Anyone else shout FUCK YES!!! Whenever the LR notification pops up
No doubt that for women it would be Annemiek van Vleuten. Look at the WC from last year; no discussion possible there.
Egan Bernal and Lionel Sanders. Sorry i’m not familiar enough with women cycling.
Pro: Landa, Van Vleuten
Amateur: Mathias Nothegger
Nothegger is a beast. I'm sure many world tour pros woild struggle to match his performance in that event.
Bradly wiggins should do it since he was into that endurance sort of stuff
And doping, like Conti.
Phil Gaimon's going to get it back.
With use of his magic EPO cookies?
@@petrcivela9413 why is he always accused of doping but everybody that beat his record isn't?
Not saying the are clean but not having to fill out a whereabouts form or potentially being drug tested makes it a hell of a lot easier for Phil.
@@holderbert9368 you'd have to be a real loser to dope after you've retired in a vain attempt to get a relatively nonsensical record. I couldn't bear the shame if I did that.
@@awesomeprunes i have met a couple lf influencers and the pressure on them is enormous. Making ends meet by chasing views is tough and will make you do thing you didn't necessarily think you were capeable of.
I don't judge them tbh. We live in a crazy world.
At 1:30, if you pause the video, Cantador has an SRM head-unit on his bike. Why did he also record it with his phone? To hide data?
Quite coincidentally that they are both 37 years old!
127.8km/h max? Fuck yeah.. not. Flagged.
Sepp Kuss would make this record his B.
Ed laverack gotta be a decent shout as an amateur pick now hes free to do what he wants
first time hearing K.O.M. said as Kom. I don't like it.
Kate Courtney
Lance Armstrong ft. Dr. Ferrari would be awesome
Wonder why GCN didnt mention Emma's record. Hmmm.
I am from the Valverde and Nibali camp, 3.5 hour trainings with some HIT intervals, or how el bala puts it, a tope siempre. El bala in many interviews has said that 5, 6, 7 hours in masoquism and if he did, he would lose the love for the bike. I am sad a Spaniard is attempting that crap, I like records of power, of aggressiveness, same reason a like a half a marathon, but think an ultra marathon is for very very intense people, and I dont respect that. I actually lost some respect for Contador, because he put his body through that no sense. An hour record might be harder and proves more, that kind of distance and that kind of time on the saddle in my opinion is not worth the attention.
I agree with you - I personally have limited interest in these long endurance events. Something like who can achieve the highest metres climbed in 20 minutes is more interesting to me
IMO Yoel Romero would break the record set by Contador
Bernal & Van Vleuten - hope they try it :)
i miss emma pooley being on gcn
I think this long-endurance thing are better suited for those older guys in the pro peloton with more capacity. Maybe this is something for Nairo-man? Don't know about his current form though... Im affraid to guess someone from the women's field, Annimiek van Vleuten?
Does anybody knows what Contador's bike was? He definitely used Lightweight wheels but the frame??
His new bike brand “A bikes”
I don't use a head unit any longer...phone is way better
I couldn't help but notice somewhat of a distaste for Contador, is he generally disliked in the cycling world?
You bought a giant tcr advanced pro disc 2!
WT: Quintana
Non-WT: Chloe Dygart
These two are easily the best male and female in the world on gigantic mountain days.
Next female Everesting world record breaker, Emma Pooley riding the same climb that Alberto rode.
Go Emma!
Next potential male record holder could be Egan, but he's probably quite busy right now:)
Emma Pooley is a legend, I guess she didn't like it when the GCN lads sent her to the kitchens... With no racing, Everesting is the new big thing. Let's see when we start to see really ludicrous performance figures. Can we have a sub 7 hours before the end of 2020?
So what if it's light!!! How about the construction? Is it some cheap bladder mold with wrinkles in the internals? Pooling with resin? plagued with multiple small voids and poor bonding? I'm tired of the cycling industry shoveling the same manure and creating lazy carbon constructions not even fit for a IPhone custom carbon case
Agree with you picks on pro riders, Bernal and Spratt. But I wonder if the risks with pushing the descent will become an issue for any Pro. Though I’m sure teams would like the coverage, there is also the downside. Same as any “Pro” invitational event that doesn’t actually impact standings. I will admit, watching the efforts, like the one posted by Phil Gaimon, was awesome, but made my whole body ache. Perhaps best left to amateurs and retirees until the risk/reward limit eventually kicks in.
Be funny if a Mr average clubman out of nowhere rocked up and beat it one day..
it happened! twice!
I think Phil Gaimon is going to give it a good go. And I think Pooley is still the best bet for the Everesting record she gave herself an absolutely trash hill for descending(and he is a self admitted trash descender), her power to weight ratio is just absurd(she's won the Taiwan KOM challenge a couple of times)
458W for 20 min @ 63 kg! We are looking at 6,9 W/kg for an hour!!! (If those numbers are correct and up to date of course)
A retired Contador now holds the record, so I'd have to think there are still at least 10 current in-shape pros that could take it. You have your pick of anyone considered a GT contender in 2020. I don't really follow amateur cyclists so I have no thoughts there. I like Phil G and I am interested to see his next attempt, but unless he was "putting it on for the camera" in his first successful attempt, I don't see him taking 30+ minutes off to get it again. Be cool if he does though.
James Oram for the Everesting Record!!!!
Non WT: Ed Laverack
I didn't notice till now that you got a new bike! No more BMC Teammachine AL? What kind did you get? Why did you choose it?
Phil Gaimon 🦵👍
Another scoop - you covered nicely the Pooley achievement before her erstwhile employers, GCN, even gave it a mention. Maybe you should change the channel name to Lanterne Blanche?
WorldTour, Vincenzo Nibali
Non WT, Riccardo Ricco, man myth and legend
Is he still alive?
Ricco - did he get banned for life for doping?
@@manuel7102 I don't know if he's alive right now, but I believe he bought a cafe after he was banned for life.
Edit: I just checked, he's got insta, he's alive and clearly hanging on to his memories of being a pro...
it wasn't recorded on the iphone app alone. you can see his head unit in the video he posted and cyclingtips was apparently given a trainingpeaks file w/ power data and just asked not to share it publicly. think he did 280w average and they said was doing like 330w on the climb.
Remco Evenepoel and Marianne Vos
The reason it probably comes up as saying he used a iphone is because if his head unit died and then he recorded the rest on his phone, even if the vast majority was recorded on his head unit, strava says it was recorded on a phone.
The guys that are used to the team being on call all the time might not be as good as a Quintana depending on which Quintana shows up. Following Bardet on strava he does incredible practice rides. Won the Mountain jersey in the tour last year. Of course it seems like he’s never ready to compete at the end but that could be his team. We have the Mt Evans hill climb each here in the US, highest paved road in North America to over 14000 ft and very thin air. Not sure who won this year. Might also be fun to watch Dan Martin if he really wanted it. Then, of course, there is the venerable Lanterne Rouge, who likely is rigorously training for his attempt.
LR: just today GCN posted a new video of an English pro rider's attempt to break the everesting record, which they say is 7:04, but here we're saying Contador broke the record at 7:27? Am I missing something
m.th-cam.com/video/hrp1KuHG2EQ/w-d-xo.html
Ronan Mc Laughlin broke Contador's record a few weeks later - I interviewed him on this channel too
What is that red monstrosity?
Emma Pooley is an absolute beast, some of the ultra endurance stuff she does boggles the mind. There's something really pleasing about her climbing style too, makes it look easy out of the saddle.
whats the go with your wig?? whats the bike behind you?? GIANT??
Contador is still putting out insane times on Strava. If he made a pro come back i wouldn't be surprised.
That's what got Lance in trouble 😉
@@brianmessemer2973 Lance probably would have been fine if he had just added Floyd to payroll.
Do we know if he used a power meter? With his public comments about banning them, curious if he used one.
Woods and ferrand prevot
Lachlan Morton for the men. Did it twice in one week. Why not go back and grab the record again? Van Vleuten for the women.