A few things you failed to point out. It is an Ebony fretboard on that model, later models used a phenolic fretboard which you would have liked better, but I prefer the Ebony, which is near impossible to get in any other guitar in that price range. The "fatter" headstock addressed the ability to "hang" the guitar from a display, previous Parker models did not have the "lower nib" for the hanger to catch. These models do, but that results in a "fatter" headstock than the traditional Fly series. The core of the guitar and neck are solid Mahogany, with Bubinga, Maple or even Poplar caps. You also failed to mention the push/ pull coil splitting feature for the pickups. We agree on the heel carve and lower horn curvature and the sustain, but I think you might note that is improved by the string thru design. We also agree the cheaper nickel frets are inferior to Stainless Steel, but obviously a price cutting feature. The electronics (not the pickups) are the lowest possible quality and unless coddled will need to be replaced with better quality pots and switches. The bridge is also very poorly plated and mine had to be replaced within a year of my hand acids gnawing on it. As to "ugly"... after hearing your defense of the offset guitars you prefer, I was surprised to hear you use the "U" word. I don't particularly like the Dark Chocolate Bubinga in your video, but it still has lovely grain. My Natural Mappa Burl version of that same guitar has never gotten anything but Oooh's and Aaahh's when I pulled it out. MOST of the complaints I have caught online were from Parker Fly purists who disliked the company trying to meet guitarists on middle ground. "Headstock to fat?" Hogwash, it's still one of the thinnest headstocks in the galaxy, only a Parker cork sniffer would suggest otherwise. Even more outlandish is the very people complaining about that, preferring the 3 to a side version that replaced it. At first they complain the P series is trying too hard to be like other guitars... then they PREFER when it is modified to be MORE like every other guitar. Haters gonna hate I guess. Your playing was beautiful and brought out some great sounds from the guitar... but you should absolutely try out some of the single coil and mixed configurations. There were even more sounds available to a marvelous player such as yourself.
Thank you! These are great points. I'll pin this comment for everyone to learn further :). I ALWAYS forget to talk about push pull pots. I never use them because the noise in my location is unbearable.
@@andrefludd Coil tap is not exactly a small feature, the single coil sound is even more distinct and interesting (beautiful, yes) than straight humbuckers. And hating it for being "ugly"? It is in the eye of the beholder is it? Why discuss something that anyone can see and judge for himself? I got that guitar just for looks, and it turned out to be excellent in every other way. Not ugly at all, says me.
My P44V has the Phenolic fretboard (which I love!) and the lower 'nib' for hanging the guitar but has the more typical Parker headstock dimensions rather than the 'fat' version used on the PM. I think Parker were simply pandering to public opinion at that point with the PM Headstock and went even further with the 3-a-side variant - which ruined the absolutely straight string pull through the nut, and possibly tuning stability, at the same time...
Great video. I am glad someone pointed out how nice these guitars despite being off putting for both Parker Fly and Traditional style guitar fans. That neck pocket and V neck (if I remember right) made it a comfortable single cut guitar and sounded great with the coil splitting options. The natural finish ones like yours are the best looking ones IMO
There is a PM24 pro. It has the phenolic fretboard, Sperzel locking tuners, Duncan JB and Jazz Pups, the floating Parker Piezo trem bridge, and the more rectangular headstock. It has everything the top of the line Parker's had bolted on. They are hard to find but damn they are awesome guitars. Only wish they had the stainless frets. Love the push pull pots and with the Piezo you can get most any combination imaginable. Pups have 2 vol and 2 tone controls along with a volume only control on the Piezo. Now to make you sick, I got my PM24 pro for $300 in spetember 2016, including the Parker softcase. The guitar was basically brand new case candy and all. NOTE: According to the Parker catalogs the 2008 PM 20 and 24v had ebony fretboards. In 2009 they changed to Phenolic fretboards. The PM 20's 2005 to 2009 and PM 24v's show up only in the 2006 thru 2009 catalogs Mean no disrespect to anyone but according to the catalogs they all had Nickel Silver frets. There is no mention in any catalog of the Parker Pm24 pro. Mine is capped with Bubinga. I just looked on line at the catalogs to make sure I was not talking out the back end. The Pm 20 and 24v's left the catalogs in 2010. Catalogs that are available: guitar-compare.com/catalogs/parker-catalogs/ If youwant 2005 and 2006 search them on the net.
I’ve got a trans black pm-20 pro with 3/3 headstock with locking spertzel and its an amazing guitar. the bridge pickup is closer to the bridge that on the one in your video too. love it
I maybe weird but I like the look of this guitar. It looks like a guitar for the high end guitar player. Wish it had the high end Parker appointments. But I would definitely play that.
I have a PM20 Hornet and a Fly Mojo Limited "Spring Edition" (1 of 25). I agree with everything you've said. The Fly is just magical, however I'll say that I get more "wow, cool guitar" comments about the PM20. After installing an Air Norton in the neck and and Air Classic in the bridge, the PM20 became a whole new guitar. Take the sustain you already mentioned and magnify it 2X. The tone is like a violin. And yes, that neck joint! Hard to believe it's a set neck... I will say that the "vintage" frets (tiny) are hard to get used to if you play larger frets on other guitars..
Good video. I have a PM-20 Pro that has a 3x3 headstock and locking tuners. Love it. I think it does have a composite fretboard and stainless steel frets. I didn’t realize that there were so many variations of this guitar. What I don’t like is that for some reason when I change strings some of the ferrets on the front and back keep falling out and getting lost. I know - that’s not so bad. SD JB and Jazz pickups.
A Parker fan who can't afford a Fly, I've had a P-36, two P-38s, and now play a P-42. I've found them to be very comfortable to play, and what I like best is the look - of the headstock, the upper horn, the lower horn, and the combination of all three having similar shapes and angles. All have sounded good - tone mostly comes from pickups, so keep swapping 'em until you get the sound you like - and been lighter to carry around than "regular" instruments. I'll be introduced to stainless steel frets by the Eart headless I just bought.
For the $ those eart headless do look interesting. As far as the p series, get ur hands on a nitefly and I promise you'll never go back. As he said perfectly they're missing the three most important parts of a fly/nf...the board, frets and the big one the bridge!
Hi Great Video. I have the PM24V with the 3 a side headstock. This makes a world of difference in the over all look of the guitar. It also has the phelonic fingerboard and stainless Steel frets.I swapped out the stinger pups for a set of Seymours and that really opened up the sound. It has 4 knobs, two coil taps and the piezo in the bridge giving it an amazing variety of tones. The contour of the neck joint is a joy as is the balance and weight. The only issue I have is trying to get it set up correctly. I have a buzz on the low E string on the first fret only and am struggling to find the cause. Nut height is good, fret seems ok??? I’ll get to the bottom of it one day and then this will be the perfect guitar……For me.
Hi Andre, years ago I found a PM 20 with the 3x3 headstock. It has different features though......coil split/tap on the pickups, a bridge with a trem bar and piezo pickups. The body shape and color are basically the same as yours, including that amazing neck joint. One thing I notice when I play it is that it feels quite short. Super comfortable to play standing up because of that and also because it is not heavy. I didn't think it was ugly though, just a bit quirky and different. It does get attention when I play it live......"what guitar is that" is a common question. Cheers Andre.
I don't think the 3x3 pm20 is ugly haha. But the pm20 with the 6 inline...yea I don't love the look of this one or of the top I have. Glad you are getting use out of yours!
I love my Parkers but not the PM range. I agree on most fronts. I think you must have missed the Gibson 2016-2019 HP Range - they all had the Axcess neck joint. Prices ranged from the Tribute models to the Standards. Literally something for everyone. Especially if bought used. I own 3 Les Pauls with zero upper fret access issues: a 2015 Less+, a 2016 Studio HP and a 2018 Standard HP II. They're all excellent and I'd rather own them than a PM20. My Studio was even a similar price...
I used to have a PM60 which was the only Us made PM model. There's basically nothing about them on the internet anymore, but it was basically a Fly singlecut. It was a nice guitar, but it had an issue where the even though it had stainless steel frets, someone before had dicked with it and no one would work on it since it had a carbon fiber fretboard. I ended up selling it years back and kind of regret it but even when I had it, it didn't get that much play time.
You're telling me the fretless wonder is deliberate? Lord, I catch my nails badly on mine. I was going to refret it with stainless steel anyway. My PM24 "Cardoc" has one of the hardest ebony fretboards I've ever come across. I bought it for the proprietary Parker bridge. Something of a shortcut to Nightfly and Fly tone. Even in the shop, I knew I'd be gutting everything else. Alpha pots: replaced with CTS. Magnetic pickups: replaced with a Dimebag set. Nut, frets, and possibly the tuners are all on the chopping block along with the Dimebag pickups. Can't make up my mind between a Polymath set or a Pegasus/Sentient set. Probably the Seymour Duncans. The neck on mine is a relatively thick one. I'll grant you: Cardoc isn't pretty. But I wanted an Iron-monger anyway. Cardoc sounds far, FAR better these days. But to get it just... so, I might go through a few more pickups. The P-series is good for modding. The PDF series I have no experience with, but I suspect, are no different in this regard.
thanks for all the awesome info on the parker guitars. your vids have given me some awesome ideas for my own custom ergonomic guitar designs. im working on a design that customers could custom fit to their bodies before building a unique one-off guitar for them using modern composite materials. i hope i can produce something in the same spirit of parker, klein and strandberg.
@@andrefludd haha, yeah. maybe once ive got a little more experience under my belt. not sure my work is anywhere near ready enough for your rigorous testing.
I used to like the Hornet, single-cut shape - but now I can't unsee the chunky headstock. Bit I also can't get behind the 3x3 headstock either. With the P-series lacking most features that make a Parker a Parker - guess it's NiteFly or pre-refined or nothing with the Parker name on it. I have had my eye on a second-hand Chapman ML-2 pro - neck through, single cut, stainless frets, easy access heel carve, open-gear locking tuners etc This one has already been upgraded with SD Pearly Gates pickups. Only thing missing is a carbon fibre fretboard. Plus so many newer (and affordable) guitars now that have caught up with what Ken was doing so long ago - ESP/LTD, Schecter and quite a few others.
That Chapman sounds pretty awesome. I although I prefer the carbon fiber fingerboard, or even richlite, it’s not a deal breaker for me anymore if a guitar doesn’t have it. It gets so limiting if I only play guitars with that spec. Good luck with your hunt!
I actually like the sound of those pickups better than a regular Les Paul. But this is eye of the beholder stuff, not to mention all the variables in how stuff gets recorded over TH-cam.
You are the only player I’ve run into on TH-cam who is so scary similar in style and taste to myself. Legato style, blues rock background (you’re much more schooled in the technical aspect of musical theory then me that’s for sure), I like super Strat guitars, fat necks, big frets, and it’s difficult to find a guitar to check those boxes. Most shredder guitars have super thin necks ala Ibanez Wizard or your standard Schecter which can be ever thinner. It’s been very interesting listening to you.
I'm with you regarding big necks!! Way more relaxing on the hands!! I love the feel of the neck on my 2002 LP Studio...although the body does feel like your holding furniture sometimes ;)
i think you should try and track down a Gibson Faded SG, they sell for pretty cheap second hand and they're honestly some of my favorite guitars Gibson makes, regarding the series as a whole. they're extremely stripped-back guitars that are essentially a plank of wood with a simple, light grain-filling lacquer finish and extremely dynamic pickups for light or aggressive playing. the neck profiles are great, but it suffers similar problems as the Beato Paul Jr, regarding horn design. it kind of gets in the way of your fretting hand but the fit, finish, sound and PRICE of these guitars are incredible, and i think you'd like it as another addition to the "era of rejection" collection :)
I actually love that single cut design. Much better imo. I wish those newer guitars had allb the fly specs on them. What do you think about the Tocin ABASI guitars?
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I have this with the 3 a side headstock. I love it. It’s a great low price single cut that I can jump around with and it looks just different enough. Ps- I also have a Ken Parker era Fly and a Southern Nightfly both of which I adore.
I love this channel and I also have a tactile preference for modern guitars! The HP spec Gibsons from right before the bankruptcy have the same sculpted upper fret access, have a wider, compound radius fingerboard; and can be found used for (somewhat) reasonable money, since they offered the spec through the whole model range. I have a 2019 HP standard that I bought for this exact reason. Check one out if you can!
I'm just hoping that if I like this I'll like the nitefly, a local shop has a parker singlecut with a different headstock and I'm hoping it's good, so if I like it, I'll like the nitefly.
Do you have an opinion on the chest cut (or the lack of it on Gibson's LPs)? It strikes me as annoying that they don't have those, but I'm curious about your opinion as the ergonomics guy :)
I noticed some of the newer viewers don’t understand my sense of humor. Guys, please don’t take things so seriously when it comes to my opinion on the looks of a musical instrument. I’m not offended when people say Parkers or Novos are ugly and don’t take offense if you find this Parker beautiful. This is all supposed to be fun and light hearted. There’s enough serious things in the world to be upset about. This isn’t one of them!
I was wondering if you had any thoughts about the DragonFly guitars, I like that body shape and I've seen pictures of them with the core model specs and pictures of some that are similar specs to the P-series.
I personally haven't played any of the models with the new softer horns like the DragonFly or PDF models. If you dislike the upper horn of the older flys, I suppose the DragonFly or PDF models can be an option, but I don't like to talk too much about guitars I haven't personally tried myself.
I wonder if you're aware of the VOX SSC33. They were not a success. I bought one new for a ridiculous price when they had been out for maybe a year. (something like 230$.) It has that sculpted neck joint on a quasi Les Paul body (thinner), and one of the most resonant bridges I've ever used. It's an aluminum bridge that combines the tailpiece and bridge into one unit, which sits on two studs. I bought this guitar as a makeshift solution when I was traveling a lot, then put it away for a long time, because I didn't take it seriously. Lately, I've been rediscovering it. It's more spanky than any Telecaster I've played. (The PUs are a weird P90/humbucker hybrid.)
The combination of that body style with a six-in-line headstock is actually very similar to the original custom solid-body guitars that Paul Bigsby made for Merle Travis. Gibson then copied Bigsby’s body style for the Les Paul, while Fender copied the headstock for both the Telecaster and especially the Strat.
@@andrefludd Yeah, it only looks weird to us now, because we’ve become so used to some separate derivatives that took different pieces from it. But this was the original style!
A truly ghastly guitar that Ken would've not liked. That said and as u alluded to, it's kinda the brother to the southern which is the ONLY revised I'd personally own. I remember the early ads had one of these next too a southern...like see we can make Les Paul's and teles too. This was the beginning of the end for Parker guitars
I have a full review on the channel! I discuss the black thing I’m using here as well. Sometimes when I’m switching guitars a lot in one day the performaxe stays on my main guitar and I use the black cushion for everything else.
I really dislike the switches above the playing position, really prefer all switches below or behind. Except for a kill switch, I like it right where the switch is.
Hey I’m a beginner have an old acoustic but looking to add an electric as well. What do you think of a good condition used Parker PM-20 at a good price??? TIA
I think you’d be better served checking out some gear at a local shop and buying based on how you connect to it. There’s a lot of great stuff out there.
I owned the same guitar and I hated it so much, no matter how much adjustment I made on my Mesa or Marshall, I couldn’t get any clarity after the 12th fret. I traded it in for an ESP EC-1000 with burst buckers, which was 1000x better than a studio Les Paul.
Andre, like you, I’m very particular about my guitars…however, I have never had an issue with the lower horn on any guitar…believe me, there’s a lot of things I dislike and drive me crazy but thats not one…I’m still looking for that perfect guitar …but it can’t cost more than my house😳
Personally, I don’t think a perfect guitar for a player exists, unless they basically build it themselves for themselves. Ive been learning luthiering and man is it rewarding to play on a great feeling instrument that cost me $50
Hey doc, I gotta question I don't know who else to ask. There's a nf on reverb right now that has me baffled. First it is a revised and that's not my area of expertise...I know pre revised. That said this I believe is a revised 06, that's a nf, as its got the bolt on neck, but every other part of the guitar screams fly. No faceplate, pickups mounted like a fly, back of the guitar looks like a fly, as far as the back plate. It's says Parker guitars on the headstock like a fly instead of Parker nitefly, and it's a nitefly mojo. What is this thing, is it rare? Or was this a thing is the revised yrs? Really trying to document every variation of flys and niteflys, but post 03 it def gets more difficult. Another question, have you, or anyone else reading this ever actually seen an 8 spring? Or is it a myth. I've seen an 11 in a stealth, but even the people who swear they exist have never actually seen one themselves
Hey! So you are probably looking at the Nitefly Mojo model. If you share the link I can confirm. The nitefly mojo came in HH config, no pickguard, usually a natural wood color with a nitefly bolt on neck. It's not particularly rare but also not a bad guitar. I personally don't have one because I like the pickguard since it allows me to change pickups and switches without routing. Also, I have seen an 8.5 spring for the Fly. Very rare but they do exist.
While, I completely disagree with the title of the video (I know it's click bait for views), I do enjoy your different view on guitars (it's very different from my own) and your videos.
@@andrefludd it sure is, it’s basically a 3x3 fly, It even has the same tremolo as a full on Parker fly, once I removed the giant block of aluminum that the last guy had blocked it with it worked great, lol it has every feature, including Piezo and stereo/mono
I have to disagree on the PM20. I own the pro version as depicted in your video, and I have to say that not only does it play sublime, it looks the part as well. I also own a P42.
The issue is that I’ve found most guitars that aren’t Gibson’s have an unpleasant pingy overtone that I hate. Trust me, I don’t like Gibson as a company and I prefer playing an ergonomic guitar, but they usually sound better to me. I don’t even own one and I fought it for years…currently looking for a 61 reissue sg
@@andrefludd So, the neck shape of the 60’s reissue is the most comfortable that Gibson makes and has less dramatic neck dive. I’d recommend tracking down a 61 reissue from between 1997-2009 : better wood quality and the 57 classics are much better pickups than what they use now IMO. Gibson seems to have turned it around in the last year so a 2022-2023 might be a good option.
Hello, I don't think you do the PM-20 justice. Some criticism is purely a matter of taste, and that the pickups sound better than you say and the guitar has a great sustain you hide in text that quickly disappears. By the way, the early PM-20 was built under Ken himself, that's what I read. And the split sounds are a very clear enrichment on these. The higher model has Seymour Duncans, fretboard on mine is ebony, body and neck full mahagoni. And I highly recommend to listen to some more examples of these here on TH-cam... ;-) Best greetings
Yeah, it's ugly. I do like the string thru body aspect though. You usually have some subtle humor in your videos but this one had me chuckling out loud as they say. I've had a rough week and I kinda needed that. Thanks man. Cheers Andre
@@andrefludd Here's to better times ahead. If nothing else maybe we'll have a better week. Just know that the positive vibes are mutual. I wish only positivity for you. 🙏
The level of very vocal visual luddites is astonishing. I mean the LP is undoubtedly a classic, although tired as hell now, the strat has always been ugly in my eyes. Teles and SGs look good but when I combined them the haters had a meltdown! Visually I like the birdland but I would never play one. I personally like the Parker vibe but I don’t think I’d get on with the horn, plus all the legacy issues. Each to their own and sod the critcs.
So this guitar has become the scapegoat now. Looks and sounds like a very nice guitar actually, less odd than those Nightfly's. But they are cool, all of them. Tuning head is wider on this, just an advantage. And ebony is better than phenolic. Just sayin' 😉
I would probably use this in the studio. But I don't think I could use it on stage. I mean, I play a PINK SCHECTER STRAT. But there are limits. Its like they took everything beautiful about the FLY, all the curves and angles...and melted it! EDIT: Confirmed. I would use it for clean solos all day. It has a great sound to it. But I'm sorry, cant be seen with it. LOL!
I would agree! The sounds are very good for no name pickups! But I really dislike the top and headstock and that’s saying a lot considering I never complain about looks lol I love pink guitars btw! I was going to get one about 4 years ago, but then all of a sudden it became very trendy again so I didn’t want to do it anymore haha. Typical me.
So many subjective opinions. The Parkers, never super-ceded Gibson or Fender guitars. Trying to be everything to everyone, has never worked as a design strategy. One of the things I find wonderful about Les Paul’s, Teles and Strats, is that no two are alike. Every instrument is unique. You have to play a bunch to find the one. My first Les Paul was a dog, the one I have now, is the best guitar I have ever played. With all due respect, your somewhat analytical take on things, translates into not understanding the more ephemeral aspects of guitar design. You may not believe in tone woods because of some experiment. But I suspect the majority of guitarists do. In fact they place a lot of weight on the significance of different woods, not only contributing to the sound but also the feel of an instrument. The Novo guitars are a great example of this. Cheers!
I politely but totally disagree. It's a beautiful instrument, especially the sunburst version. Very light too. Guitars don't need to look like les pauls and stratocasters.
I agree that Parker is one ugly guitar but to be fair you also have one of the ugliest guitars Gibson has to offer back there. Im a Les Paul guy but double cut special is just ugly and horrible in every way possible.
Buddy I'm there. It took a lot of research to get the knowledge I do, and I've only really mastered the pre revised. A book needs to be written, but from what I've heard everytime Ken is presented with the idea he's not interested. Without his contribution would be tough as there's a lot of misinformation about Parkers. Tbh, the doc has about the best reviews of many of the main models and the differences. Far as TH-cam, he's the Parker guy. From there check out the fly clone project, another decent arena for Parker info. But again, lot of misinformation. My two cents. Flys will always be great and super cool looking etc. But parts are near impossible to find, repairs can go from expensive to not possible, and you're stuck exactly how it is, no modding. The Nitefly , and again doc has the best videos on the nf, had all the benefits of the fly(fretboard, neck, frets, bridge, piezo system) but can be repaired by most techs, is wired like other guitars, has spri gs like other guitars, and can be easily modded. They're routed to accept any configuration you can think up, just by a faceplate swap. HH, sss, ssh, hsh, hhh, p90s, whatever. In my opinion best neck and fretboard ever made and best bridge ever designed. Even then, my favorite stock guitar of all time, of which I now own several, I have one gripe and one wish. Hate the position of the volume knob...period. Trying to get custom plates made minus the hole for the volume so I can move it. And I wish they had zero frets. How the carbon fretboard is made all the frets are glued in and there's no way to add a zero fret after the fact. Now that last one is me just being very picky and can survive without. Never had an issue with there nuts, and 25-30 yrs later most of mine still look amazing. True testament of how well they were designed and made!
Doc has videos on what to look for when buying a parker. Answer will be different depending on model. Make sure all piezos work as each saddle controls that string. Make sure the truss rod works. Make sure there no damage to the fiber glass body and neck, or just neck, as that weakens the integrity of the entire guitar/neck. Ss frets should stand up, and have little to no wear, but as the frets are glued in make sure they're all level and none are sprouting out. Though as long as the frets ok, that's a fairly easy fix, just need to be heated, pulled, cleaned and reglued. Other then the fretboard, which I've never seen one damaged but that would be a def deal breaker if it did, treat it like any other guitar inspection.
@@micemr76 I just put down a deposit on a 96 blue majik set up I believe for 9s. I’m looking at the pictures of the flat spring and they have .009 printed neatly on them. I can pick it up in person when I go to play but I’m just praying I’m not wasting $2500. I want the nitefly as well but I just haven’t come across any one here in Massachusetts that was in good enough condition yet. It’s frankly stressful trying own one of these.
@@micemr76 I mentioned this previously but I came radically close to buying a nitefly till I found out there were truss rod issues. It was heartbreaking :(
@@andrefludd Nah I play a '76 Ibanez hollow body and a very light/thin Strat. I just find this LP-ish guitar much less ugly than other parkers because I can't stand their signature body shape. Please don't hate me for it ;)
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A few things you failed to point out. It is an Ebony fretboard on that model, later models used a phenolic fretboard which you would have liked better, but I prefer the Ebony, which is near impossible to get in any other guitar in that price range.
The "fatter" headstock addressed the ability to "hang" the guitar from a display, previous Parker models did not have the "lower nib" for the hanger to catch. These models do, but that results in a "fatter" headstock than the traditional Fly series.
The core of the guitar and neck are solid Mahogany, with Bubinga, Maple or even Poplar caps.
You also failed to mention the push/ pull coil splitting feature for the pickups.
We agree on the heel carve and lower horn curvature and the sustain, but I think you might note that is improved by the string thru design.
We also agree the cheaper nickel frets are inferior to Stainless Steel, but obviously a price cutting feature.
The electronics (not the pickups) are the lowest possible quality and unless coddled will need to be replaced with better quality pots and switches. The bridge is also very poorly plated and mine had to be replaced within a year of my hand acids gnawing on it.
As to "ugly"... after hearing your defense of the offset guitars you prefer, I was surprised to hear you use the "U" word. I don't particularly like the Dark Chocolate Bubinga in your video, but it still has lovely grain. My Natural Mappa Burl version of that same guitar has never gotten anything but Oooh's and Aaahh's when I pulled it out. MOST of the complaints I have caught online were from Parker Fly purists who disliked the company trying to meet guitarists on middle ground. "Headstock to fat?" Hogwash, it's still one of the thinnest headstocks in the galaxy, only a Parker cork sniffer would suggest otherwise.
Even more outlandish is the very people complaining about that, preferring the 3 to a side version that replaced it. At first they complain the P series is trying too hard to be like other guitars... then they PREFER when it is modified to be MORE like every other guitar. Haters gonna hate I guess.
Your playing was beautiful and brought out some great sounds from the guitar... but you should absolutely try out some of the single coil and mixed configurations. There were even more sounds available to a marvelous player such as yourself.
Thank you! These are great points. I'll pin this comment for everyone to learn further :). I ALWAYS forget to talk about push pull pots. I never use them because the noise in my location is unbearable.
@@andrefludd Coil tap is not exactly a small feature, the single coil sound is even more distinct and interesting (beautiful, yes) than straight humbuckers. And hating it for being "ugly"? It is in the eye of the beholder is it? Why discuss something that anyone can see and judge for himself? I got that guitar just for looks, and it turned out to be excellent in every other way. Not ugly at all, says me.
My P44V has the Phenolic fretboard (which I love!) and the lower 'nib' for hanging the guitar but has the more typical Parker headstock dimensions rather than the 'fat' version used on the PM. I think Parker were simply pandering to public opinion at that point with the PM Headstock and went even further with the 3-a-side variant - which ruined the absolutely straight string pull through the nut, and possibly tuning stability, at the same time...
Looks like it still has a straight face pull with the 3 a side
Great video. I am glad someone pointed out how nice these guitars despite being off putting for both Parker Fly and Traditional style guitar fans. That neck pocket and V neck (if I remember right) made it a comfortable single cut guitar and sounded great with the coil splitting options. The natural finish ones like yours are the best looking ones IMO
Thanks!
There is a PM24 pro. It has the phenolic fretboard, Sperzel locking tuners, Duncan JB and Jazz Pups, the floating Parker Piezo trem bridge, and the more rectangular headstock. It has everything the top of the line Parker's had bolted on. They are hard to find but damn they are awesome guitars. Only wish they had the stainless frets. Love the push pull pots and with the Piezo you can get most any combination imaginable. Pups have 2 vol and 2 tone controls along with a volume only control on the Piezo.
Now to make you sick, I got my PM24 pro for $300 in spetember 2016, including the Parker softcase. The guitar was basically brand new case candy and all.
NOTE: According to the Parker catalogs the 2008 PM 20 and 24v had ebony fretboards. In 2009 they changed to Phenolic fretboards. The PM 20's 2005 to 2009 and PM 24v's show up only in the 2006 thru 2009 catalogs Mean no disrespect to anyone but according to the catalogs they all had Nickel Silver frets. There is no mention in any catalog of the Parker Pm24 pro. Mine is capped with Bubinga. I just looked on line at the catalogs to make sure I was not talking out the back end. The Pm 20 and 24v's left the catalogs in 2010.
Catalogs that are available: guitar-compare.com/catalogs/parker-catalogs/ If youwant 2005 and 2006 search them on the net.
I’ve got a trans black pm-20 pro with 3/3 headstock with locking spertzel and its an amazing guitar. the bridge pickup is closer to the bridge that on the one in your video too. love it
I woulda preferred that version as well
I maybe weird but I like the look of this guitar. It looks like a guitar for the high end guitar player. Wish it had the high end Parker appointments. But I would definitely play that.
They do make a version of this with all the high end stuff. "Parker fly single cut mojo." But I've never played one. Hard to find,.
I have a PM20 Hornet and a Fly Mojo Limited "Spring Edition" (1 of 25). I agree with everything you've said. The Fly is just magical, however I'll say that I get more "wow, cool guitar" comments about the PM20. After installing an Air Norton in the neck and and Air Classic in the bridge, the PM20 became a whole new guitar. Take the sustain you already mentioned and magnify it 2X. The tone is like a violin. And yes, that neck joint! Hard to believe it's a set neck... I will say that the "vintage" frets (tiny) are hard to get used to if you play larger frets on other guitars..
Good video. I have a PM-20 Pro that has a 3x3 headstock and locking tuners. Love it. I think it does have a composite fretboard and stainless steel frets. I didn’t realize that there were so many variations of this guitar. What I don’t like is that for some reason when I change strings some of the ferrets on the front and back keep falling out and getting lost. I know - that’s not so bad. SD JB and Jazz pickups.
A Parker fan who can't afford a Fly, I've had a P-36, two P-38s, and now play a P-42. I've found them to be very comfortable to play, and what I like best is the look - of the headstock, the upper horn, the lower horn, and the combination of all three having similar shapes and angles. All have sounded good - tone mostly comes from pickups, so keep swapping 'em until you get the sound you like - and been lighter to carry around than "regular" instruments. I'll be introduced to stainless steel frets by the Eart headless I just bought.
For the $ those eart headless do look interesting. As far as the p series, get ur hands on a nitefly and I promise you'll never go back. As he said perfectly they're missing the three most important parts of a fly/nf...the board, frets and the big one the bridge!
I’m glad they work for you! They are def solid guitars.
Hi Great Video. I have the PM24V with the 3 a side headstock. This makes a world of difference in the over all look of the guitar. It also has the phelonic fingerboard and stainless Steel frets.I swapped out the stinger pups for a set of Seymours and that really opened up the sound. It has 4 knobs, two coil taps and the piezo in the bridge giving it an amazing variety of tones. The contour of the neck joint is a joy as is the balance and weight. The only issue I have is trying to get it set up correctly. I have a buzz on the low E string on the first fret only and am struggling to find the cause. Nut height is good, fret seems ok??? I’ll get to the bottom of it one day and then this will be the perfect guitar……For me.
Hi Andre, years ago I found a PM 20 with the 3x3 headstock. It has different features though......coil split/tap on the pickups, a bridge with a trem bar and piezo pickups. The body shape and color are basically the same as yours, including that amazing neck joint. One thing I notice when I play it is that it feels quite short. Super comfortable to play standing up because of that and also because it is not heavy. I didn't think it was ugly though, just a bit quirky and different. It does get attention when I play it live......"what guitar is that" is a common question. Cheers Andre.
I don't think the 3x3 pm20 is ugly haha. But the pm20 with the 6 inline...yea I don't love the look of this one or of the top I have. Glad you are getting use out of yours!
I love my Parkers but not the PM range. I agree on most fronts. I think you must have missed the Gibson 2016-2019 HP Range - they all had the Axcess neck joint. Prices ranged from the Tribute models to the Standards. Literally something for everyone. Especially if bought used. I own 3 Les Pauls with zero upper fret access issues: a 2015 Less+, a 2016 Studio HP and a 2018 Standard HP II. They're all excellent and I'd rather own them than a PM20. My Studio was even a similar price...
Bought this model ca 30 years ago for around 250 USD brand new. Best price - value ever.
Sick, always excited when you got a new video
I appreciate your support!
Thank you again for making such kick ass Parker vids btw, these really do kick ass
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people find 335 and big jazzbox type guitars ugly, I find them beautiful.To each his own
Agreed
I used to have a PM60 which was the only Us made PM model. There's basically nothing about them on the internet anymore, but it was basically a Fly singlecut. It was a nice guitar, but it had an issue where the even though it had stainless steel frets, someone before had dicked with it and no one would work on it since it had a carbon fiber fretboard. I ended up selling it years back and kind of regret it but even when I had it, it didn't get that much play time.
Those are really hard to find nowadays!
You're telling me the fretless wonder is deliberate? Lord, I catch my nails badly on mine. I was going to refret it with stainless steel anyway.
My PM24 "Cardoc" has one of the hardest ebony fretboards I've ever come across. I bought it for the proprietary Parker bridge. Something of a shortcut to Nightfly and Fly tone. Even in the shop, I knew I'd be gutting everything else. Alpha pots: replaced with CTS.
Magnetic pickups: replaced with a Dimebag set.
Nut, frets, and possibly the tuners are all on the chopping block along with the Dimebag pickups. Can't make up my mind between a Polymath set or a Pegasus/Sentient set. Probably the Seymour Duncans.
The neck on mine is a relatively thick one. I'll grant you: Cardoc isn't pretty. But I wanted an Iron-monger anyway. Cardoc sounds far, FAR better these days. But to get it just... so, I might go through a few more pickups.
The P-series is good for modding. The PDF series I have no experience with, but I suspect, are no different in this regard.
Yea I have no desire to review the pdf series. It’s just too far gone imo
I just found one of these in the marketplace for incredibly dirt cheap. I’m thinking about going to get it.
It a good thing that we have different kind of guitars available. Gibson has it’s own thing going on and Parker made something totally different.
Sure did!
thanks for all the awesome info on the parker guitars. your vids have given me some awesome ideas for my own custom ergonomic guitar designs. im working on a design that customers could custom fit to their bodies before building a unique one-off guitar for them using modern composite materials. i hope i can produce something in the same spirit of parker, klein and strandberg.
I’m really dying to try a Klein guitar. Good luck with your builds! I’d love to be a test dummy some day.
@@andrefludd haha, yeah. maybe once ive got a little more experience under my belt. not sure my work is anywhere near ready enough for your rigorous testing.
Great video. I didn’t know the P-series lacked all the good features.
Glad you liked it!
I used to like the Hornet, single-cut shape - but now I can't unsee the chunky headstock.
Bit I also can't get behind the 3x3 headstock either.
With the P-series lacking most features that make a Parker a Parker - guess it's NiteFly or pre-refined or nothing with the Parker name on it.
I have had my eye on a second-hand Chapman ML-2 pro - neck through, single cut, stainless frets, easy access heel carve, open-gear locking tuners etc
This one has already been upgraded with SD Pearly Gates pickups.
Only thing missing is a carbon fibre fretboard.
Plus so many newer (and affordable) guitars now that have caught up with what Ken was doing so long ago - ESP/LTD, Schecter and quite a few others.
That Chapman sounds pretty awesome. I although I prefer the carbon fiber fingerboard, or even richlite, it’s not a deal breaker for me anymore if a guitar doesn’t have it. It gets so limiting if I only play guitars with that spec. Good luck with your hunt!
I actually like the sound of those pickups better than a regular Les Paul. But this is eye of the beholder stuff, not to mention all the variables in how stuff gets recorded over TH-cam.
These are nice pickups for sure
I have a PM-20; swapped out the Pups for DiMarzios, and it sounds the best of the three guitars I own.
Great job again mate. As a serial Godin collector, I feel an affinity to any quirky maker.
I do like what Godin is doing as well. Very few companies stick out as special but they def do.
You are the only player I’ve run into on TH-cam who is so scary similar in style and taste to myself. Legato style, blues rock background (you’re much more schooled in the technical aspect of musical theory then me that’s for sure), I like super Strat guitars, fat necks, big frets, and it’s difficult to find a guitar to check those boxes. Most shredder guitars have super thin necks ala Ibanez Wizard or your standard Schecter which can be ever thinner. It’s been very interesting listening to you.
We sound like long lost brothers :). thanks for the support! Glad to know we are out there!
I'm with you regarding big necks!! Way more relaxing on the hands!!
I love the feel of the neck on my 2002 LP Studio...although the body does feel like your holding furniture sometimes ;)
I think Wizard necks are the thinnest necks there is. Schecters aren’t quite as thin
i think you should try and track down a Gibson Faded SG, they sell for pretty cheap second hand and they're honestly some of my favorite guitars Gibson makes, regarding the series as a whole. they're extremely stripped-back guitars that are essentially a plank of wood with a simple, light grain-filling lacquer finish and extremely dynamic pickups for light or aggressive playing. the neck profiles are great, but it suffers similar problems as the Beato Paul Jr, regarding horn design. it kind of gets in the way of your fretting hand but the fit, finish, sound and PRICE of these guitars are incredible, and i think you'd like it as another addition to the "era of rejection" collection :)
I’m trying to decide which SG to try in the future so I’ll def add this one to the potential list
I actually love that single cut design. Much better imo. I wish those newer guitars had allb the fly specs on them. What do you think about the Tocin ABASI guitars?
I think they look awesome but I’ve never played one. I hope I can in 2023.
@@andrefludd that would be cool. The Abasi guitars are made for more ergonomics and can be played upright, like classic guitars. Great videos!
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I have this with the 3 a side headstock. I love it. It’s a great low price single cut that I can jump around with and it looks just different enough.
Ps- I also have a Ken Parker era Fly and a Southern Nightfly both of which I adore.
You have the full collection!
I love this channel and I also have a tactile preference for modern guitars! The HP spec Gibsons from right before the bankruptcy have the same sculpted upper fret access, have a wider, compound radius fingerboard; and can be found used for (somewhat) reasonable money, since they offered the spec through the whole model range. I have a 2019 HP standard that I bought for this exact reason. Check one out if you can!
Thanks for the support and the suggestion! I’ll keep my eyes open :)
I have a 2018 HP that I play and it’s awesome. Not sure if they’re similar but I love it.
another great video! you got my subscription!
Great player!
I have a P20, really comfy to play.
Gorgeous 🎸
I'm just hoping that if I like this I'll like the nitefly, a local shop has a parker singlecut with a different headstock and I'm hoping it's good, so if I like it, I'll like the nitefly.
After watching some of the other Parker videos I did briefly look at a hornet and I came to a similar conclusion. Great video
Thank you!
Do you have an opinion on the chest cut (or the lack of it on Gibson's LPs)? It strikes me as annoying that they don't have those, but I'm curious about your opinion as the ergonomics guy :)
I noticed some of the newer viewers don’t understand my sense of humor. Guys, please don’t take things so seriously when it comes to my opinion on the looks of a musical instrument. I’m not offended when people say Parkers or Novos are ugly and don’t take offense if you find this Parker beautiful. This is all supposed to be fun and light hearted. There’s enough serious things in the world to be upset about. This isn’t one of them!
I’m glad I ran into this! Hilarious!!
I was wondering if you had any thoughts about the DragonFly guitars, I like that body shape and I've seen pictures of them with the core model specs and pictures of some that are similar specs to the P-series.
I personally haven't played any of the models with the new softer horns like the DragonFly or PDF models. If you dislike the upper horn of the older flys, I suppose the DragonFly or PDF models can be an option, but I don't like to talk too much about guitars I haven't personally tried myself.
I wonder if you're aware of the VOX SSC33. They were not a success. I bought one new for a ridiculous price when they had been out for maybe a year. (something like 230$.) It has that sculpted neck joint on a quasi Les Paul body (thinner), and one of the most resonant bridges I've ever used. It's an aluminum bridge that combines the tailpiece and bridge into one unit, which sits on two studs. I bought this guitar as a makeshift solution when I was traveling a lot, then put it away for a long time, because I didn't take it seriously. Lately, I've been rediscovering it. It's more spanky than any Telecaster I've played. (The PUs are a weird P90/humbucker hybrid.)
I remember that guitar! Never got to try one but I always thought the vox guitars looked cool.
Get that PJ12 on Reverb.. im so curious about that model..
I’d love to but it’s not really for me right now. I have one of the acoustics. I’ll review it in 2023
where is the link you mentioned was on your left for discussion of your first parker p series guitar i was interested. google did not help
I Used this Guitar For 5 Diplomas...But is it Any Good? (Story Time: Parker P38)
th-cam.com/video/WiVQ6roWSq8/w-d-xo.html
The combination of that body style with a six-in-line headstock is actually very similar to the original custom solid-body guitars that Paul Bigsby made for Merle Travis. Gibson then copied Bigsby’s body style for the Les Paul, while Fender copied the headstock for both the Telecaster and especially the Strat.
Good point!
@@andrefludd Yeah, it only looks weird to us now, because we’ve become so used to some separate derivatives that took different pieces from it. But this was the original style!
Sorry for commenting for the algorithm later than usual. Been busy with new job and less free time than I had before.
:) you are always appreciate no matter when you comment! I hope you are loving the new job.
A truly ghastly guitar that Ken would've not liked. That said and as u alluded to, it's kinda the brother to the southern which is the ONLY revised I'd personally own. I remember the early ads had one of these next too a southern...like see we can make Les Paul's and teles too. This was the beginning of the end for Parker guitars
Yea. I like the tele but the lp…not my thing. To be fair, I’ve never met a single cut that I loved.
The Parkerfly mm single cut is what you are looking for is similar to that but usa made and carbon fiber … aaa they use a real Parker headstock
Curious about your thoughts on the performaxe leg rest. What was the other product you are using in the video today? Asking for my back
I have a full review on the channel! I discuss the black thing I’m using here as well. Sometimes when I’m switching guitars a lot in one day the performaxe stays on my main guitar and I use the black cushion for everything else.
I really dislike the switches above the playing position, really prefer all switches below or behind. Except for a kill switch, I like it right where the switch is.
I’m also particular about my switches
Hey I’m a beginner have an old acoustic but looking to add an electric as well. What do you think of a good condition used Parker PM-20 at a good price??? TIA
I think you’d be better served checking out some gear at a local shop and buying based on how you connect to it. There’s a lot of great stuff out there.
I owned the same guitar and I hated it so much, no matter how much adjustment I made on my Mesa or Marshall, I couldn’t get any clarity after the 12th fret. I traded it in for an ESP EC-1000 with burst buckers, which was 1000x better than a studio Les Paul.
Andre, like you, I’m very particular about my guitars…however, I have never had an issue with the lower horn on any guitar…believe me, there’s a lot of things I dislike and drive me crazy but thats not one…I’m still looking for that perfect guitar …but it can’t cost more than my house😳
Personally, I don’t think a perfect guitar for a player exists, unless they basically build it themselves for themselves. Ive been learning luthiering and man is it rewarding to play on a great feeling instrument that cost me $50
I believe you! Everyone’s different. Different hand sizes and techniques I’m just showing my feel for things :)
Well $50 plus all your time and knowledge! That’s worth something!
I kind of like the fatter headstock. Might tuck around and pick one up!
Haha let me know if you like it
Try some Godin guitars. You'll find them in every pawn shop at a great price.
I’ve tried them!
Hey doc, I gotta question I don't know who else to ask. There's a nf on reverb right now that has me baffled. First it is a revised and that's not my area of expertise...I know pre revised. That said this I believe is a revised 06, that's a nf, as its got the bolt on neck, but every other part of the guitar screams fly. No faceplate, pickups mounted like a fly, back of the guitar looks like a fly, as far as the back plate. It's says Parker guitars on the headstock like a fly instead of Parker nitefly, and it's a nitefly mojo. What is this thing, is it rare? Or was this a thing is the revised yrs? Really trying to document every variation of flys and niteflys, but post 03 it def gets more difficult. Another question, have you, or anyone else reading this ever actually seen an 8 spring? Or is it a myth. I've seen an 11 in a stealth, but even the people who swear they exist have never actually seen one themselves
Hey! So you are probably looking at the Nitefly Mojo model. If you share the link I can confirm. The nitefly mojo came in HH config, no pickguard, usually a natural wood color with a nitefly bolt on neck. It's not particularly rare but also not a bad guitar. I personally don't have one because I like the pickguard since it allows me to change pickups and switches without routing. Also, I have seen an 8.5 spring for the Fly. Very rare but they do exist.
While, I completely disagree with the title of the video (I know it's click bait for views), I do enjoy your different view on guitars (it's very different from my own) and your videos.
Thanks for the support :).
I have a pm24 that is amazing
It's a great instrument!
@@andrefludd it sure is, it’s basically a 3x3 fly, It even has the same tremolo as a full on Parker fly, once I removed the giant block of aluminum that the last guy had blocked it with it worked great, lol it has every feature, including Piezo and stereo/mono
I have to disagree on the PM20. I own the pro version as depicted in your video, and I have to say that not only does it play sublime, it looks the part as well. I also own a P42.
The issue is that I’ve found most guitars that aren’t Gibson’s have an unpleasant pingy overtone that I hate. Trust me, I don’t like Gibson as a company and I prefer playing an ergonomic guitar, but they usually sound better to me. I don’t even own one and I fought it for years…currently looking for a 61 reissue sg
I may also be getting an SG in 2023. What is it about the 61 reissue that attracts you? I don’t know anything about it
@@andrefludd So, the neck shape of the 60’s reissue is the most comfortable that Gibson makes and has less dramatic neck dive. I’d recommend tracking down a 61 reissue from between 1997-2009 : better wood quality and the 57 classics are much better pickups than what they use now IMO. Gibson seems to have turned it around in the last year so a 2022-2023 might be a good option.
@@sG_Chimera very helpful
Thanks!
What happened with the intro? Something got cut away or something?
No that was intentional haha I was foreshadowing the clip coming later
Hello, I don't think you do the PM-20 justice. Some criticism is purely a matter of taste, and that the pickups sound better than you say and the guitar has a great sustain you hide in text that quickly disappears. By the way, the early PM-20 was built under Ken himself, that's what I read. And the split sounds are a very clear enrichment on these. The higher model has Seymour Duncans, fretboard on mine is ebony, body and neck full mahagoni.
And I highly recommend to listen to some more examples of these here on TH-cam... ;-) Best greetings
Did not really notice it until you pointed it out, but the P-Series headstock is not really very pretty.
More, well, buzzard-like. Oof. 😬
Some are normal but these are just strange imo
Yes, the Hornet and Pm 20 are actually better than Les Pauls. Tonally very similar but lighter and better balanced. And cheaper. 😃
Yeah, it's ugly. I do like the string thru body aspect though.
You usually have some subtle humor in your videos but this one had me chuckling out loud as they say. I've had a rough week and I kinda needed that. Thanks man.
Cheers Andre
My week has also been rough, I’m glad I could add a little lightness to yours, brother.
@@andrefludd Here's to better times ahead. If nothing else maybe we'll have a better week. Just know that the positive vibes are mutual. I wish only positivity for you. 🙏
@@_rafael_b I really appreciate that. Thank you and same to you of course!
The level of very vocal visual luddites is astonishing. I mean the LP is undoubtedly a classic, although tired as hell now, the strat has always been ugly in my eyes. Teles and SGs look good but when I combined them the haters had a meltdown! Visually I like the birdland but I would never play one. I personally like the Parker vibe but I don’t think I’d get on with the horn, plus all the legacy issues. Each to their own and sod the critcs.
Yea, I also love the look of teles! I totally get not buying Parkers because of the parts issue. That is for sure a huge downside.
So this guitar has become the scapegoat now. Looks and sounds like a very nice guitar actually, less odd than those Nightfly's. But they are cool, all of them. Tuning head is wider on this, just an advantage. And ebony is better than phenolic. Just sayin' 😉
I would probably use this in the studio. But I don't think I could use it on stage. I mean, I play a PINK SCHECTER STRAT. But there are limits.
Its like they took everything beautiful about the FLY, all the curves and angles...and melted it!
EDIT: Confirmed. I would use it for clean solos all day. It has a great sound to it. But I'm sorry, cant be seen with it. LOL!
I would agree! The sounds are very good for no name pickups! But I really dislike the top and headstock and that’s saying a lot considering I never complain about looks lol I love pink guitars btw! I was going to get one about 4 years ago, but then all of a sudden it became very trendy again so I didn’t want to do it anymore haha. Typical me.
I play a pink Schecter tele lol.
First guitar was a who know what that was blue with pink lightning bolts carved and painted on it. My 12 yr old self thought I was a rockstar!
@@Augrills Apparently we are much cooler than I thought!
I hated the string through bridge.
I had some P series Parkers and I wasn't impressed. Yeah, they looked really good IMO but it's a joke that they are better than Gibson.
are you kidding? that thing looks great.
ehhh not to me lol
It’s so ugly it’s beautiful. 😎
So many subjective opinions. The Parkers, never super-ceded Gibson or Fender guitars. Trying to be everything to everyone, has never worked as a design strategy. One of the things I find wonderful about Les Paul’s, Teles and Strats, is that no two are alike. Every instrument is unique. You have to play a bunch to find the one. My first Les Paul was a dog, the one I have now, is the best guitar I have ever played. With all due respect, your somewhat analytical take on things, translates into not understanding the more ephemeral aspects of guitar design. You may not believe in tone woods because of some experiment. But I suspect the majority of guitarists do. In fact they place a lot of weight on the significance of different woods, not only contributing to the sound but also the feel of an instrument. The Novo guitars are a great example of this.
Cheers!
Agreed 100%!
Umm... No :)
Andre you’ve made it lol, the scambots are trying to ripoff your subscribers
Yea, I’ve had to block almost 10 over the last 3 weeks or so.
I politely but totally disagree. It's a beautiful instrument, especially the sunburst version. Very light too. Guitars don't need to look like les pauls and stratocasters.
Parkers r not ugly
Agreed
@@andrefludd i got a blonde supreme n p42 kilswitch engage. Nice guitars
This is better than gibson i used this guitar
I tend to agree.
I don't think any person looking for a LP would buy this because of the "improvements".
No joke, you know you’re getting some traction when people are trying to scam your viewers by pretending to be you
Imitation is the highest form of flattery? Haha you haven’t made it until there are bots :)
Silver lining, the channel is getting pretty big
What can any well thought out guitar teach gibson? Well son, Have you got a year?
😂
@@andrefludd You brought up the only less paul I'd consider buying new, the Alex Lifeson one, but it's *very* expensive so yeah. 😂
I agree that Parker is one ugly guitar but to be fair you also have one of the ugliest guitars Gibson has to offer back there. Im a Les Paul guy but double cut special is just ugly and horrible in every way possible.
Haha let’s just talk ugly in all
The comments
I don’t like double cuts either. Single looks way better. If you need high fret access, I imagine it’s a lot easier. I call those the dusty frets
I detest Gibson dude idk why. they're just cringe.
All Parker's are the epitome of luthier art.
Perhaps
I’d kill for a good Parker buyers guide on several models and what to look for to make sure they’re good. Something comprehensive
Buddy I'm there. It took a lot of research to get the knowledge I do, and I've only really mastered the pre revised. A book needs to be written, but from what I've heard everytime Ken is presented with the idea he's not interested. Without his contribution would be tough as there's a lot of misinformation about Parkers. Tbh, the doc has about the best reviews of many of the main models and the differences. Far as TH-cam, he's the Parker guy. From there check out the fly clone project, another decent arena for Parker info. But again, lot of misinformation. My two cents. Flys will always be great and super cool looking etc. But parts are near impossible to find, repairs can go from expensive to not possible, and you're stuck exactly how it is, no modding. The Nitefly , and again doc has the best videos on the nf, had all the benefits of the fly(fretboard, neck, frets, bridge, piezo system) but can be repaired by most techs, is wired like other guitars, has spri gs like other guitars, and can be easily modded. They're routed to accept any configuration you can think up, just by a faceplate swap. HH, sss, ssh, hsh, hhh, p90s, whatever. In my opinion best neck and fretboard ever made and best bridge ever designed. Even then, my favorite stock guitar of all time, of which I now own several, I have one gripe and one wish. Hate the position of the volume knob...period. Trying to get custom plates made minus the hole for the volume so I can move it. And I wish they had zero frets. How the carbon fretboard is made all the frets are glued in and there's no way to add a zero fret after the fact. Now that last one is me just being very picky and can survive without. Never had an issue with there nuts, and 25-30 yrs later most of mine still look amazing. True testament of how well they were designed and made!
Doc has videos on what to look for when buying a parker. Answer will be different depending on model. Make sure all piezos work as each saddle controls that string. Make sure the truss rod works. Make sure there no damage to the fiber glass body and neck, or just neck, as that weakens the integrity of the entire guitar/neck. Ss frets should stand up, and have little to no wear, but as the frets are glued in make sure they're all level and none are sprouting out. Though as long as the frets ok, that's a fairly easy fix, just need to be heated, pulled, cleaned and reglued. Other then the fretboard, which I've never seen one damaged but that would be a def deal breaker if it did, treat it like any other guitar inspection.
@@micemr76 I just put down a deposit on a 96 blue majik set up I believe for 9s. I’m looking at the pictures of the flat spring and they have .009 printed neatly on them. I can pick it up in person when I go to play but I’m just praying I’m not wasting $2500. I want the nitefly as well but I just haven’t come across any one here in Massachusetts that was in good enough condition yet. It’s frankly stressful trying own one of these.
@@micemr76 these guitars are like real life hattori hanzo swords lol
@@micemr76 I mentioned this previously but I came radically close to buying a nitefly till I found out there were truss rod issues. It was heartbreaking :(
This is by far the least ugly Parker I've ever seen :)
Haha the LP fan enters the conversation ;)
@@andrefludd Nah I play a '76 Ibanez hollow body and a very light/thin Strat. I just find this LP-ish guitar much less ugly than other parkers because I can't stand their signature body shape. Please don't hate me for it ;)
@@raglanroadworks I'd never hate someone for their music taste haha.