So we grew two seeds out of a five pack of *Peyote Skittlez* from 'seedsman' this year outdoors, we kept the tall girl and gave away the dwarf/mutant to friends and just chopped our pheno or her this weekend. Her structure was tall 8ft chunky spears with purple Brach's, not the frostiest, but greasy and big yield but she is a full 10+ weeks. She is fragrant, her terpene profile reeks of purple trainwreck with some skunky tones in fact her bud structure totally reminds of the purple trainwreck we grew indoors here in Michigan during the early medical years 2010-2014 same structure same smell but a tad stinkier. I think peyote skittlez it is Purple trainwreck x Skunk... cross, definitely a bigger stinkier sturdier version of purple trainwreck IMHO We were totally blessed with an amazing pheno of Peyote Skittlez (MAHALO SEEDSMAN!) in the five pack from seedsman, the only thing we could wish for would be an earlier version of her with more frost, thinking of crossing her with Space Panda to get everything of what we want as far as structure yields terpenes and earliness. If successful the hybrid would be a real winner for outdoor growers because she was one of the most mold resistant strains that we grew this year, she pretty much shrugged off the terrible humid conditions we had this summer totally a keeper! We have clones of both the Peyote Skittlez and the Space Panda that survived this wacky summer here on the west coast of Michigan. Peyote Skittlez Smoke report, two week dry cure is super tasty, super smooth and super potent, Indica leaning with especially happy high notes on the end. Yield is stellar btw on a 8ft x 6ft plant grown in organic sandy soil amended with horse manure, fish products by 'Alaska' (grow) 'Fox Farm' (happy frog) and locally caught carp/sucker. looking forward to next season already! Great episode on the Skittlez strain, thank you so much for sharing all your guys information and wisdom! Aloha from Lower Michigan
1:07:05 I had a relatively pungent citrus-bergamot type pheno from sensi/white label feminized PPP. It was the only good one out of 3, very weak roots always wanting to mold and similar problems, but this one pheno was really beautiful, perfect sized buds all in the same height glowing light green and having that perfume-quality bergamot smell. I'm sure you would get many different citrus types when crossing it to any OG or polyhybrid US line. I often hear breeders in the US started with some kind of sensi outdoor/indoor mix pack or their durban for breeding projects, could it be the case that there are way more "european" genes in US lines than usually thought? Maybe some people use such mix packs on purpose to avoid getting into a moral dilemma when they have to explain the origin and names of the strains and can simply say that they really don't know ^^ (or e.g. "crossing random sensi S1/S2 seed with Durban, well let's call it F1 Durban, as it's basically a new F1 but Durban is the only name we have so let's use that" or something like that.)
I think the sprite is from Humbold Seed Collective, LLC Clones. It’s a clone. They released a few years ago and I know it’s been grown out in Oklahoma. Of course I could be wrong.
The word "Zah" is just a play on the word exotic .... back when mids & seeds was the norm down south we wasn't very good with strain names .. so if your dealer had some good seedless weed back then he'd let you know by saying he has some exotic too .... that eventually turned into zah for short ... I'm not sure if the strain zah has zkittles in it but I doubt it ... zah was being said as slang in the streets before zkittles existed commercially
What city or state that sounds new to me and I lived in the south east for years. Crippy sure kind sure. Local names sure. Zah wasn't even a word used for pizza down there.
@joeyattaway756 alabama & Georgia for sure ... around the early to mid 90s ...... in the streets you either had Reggie, mid or exotic ... .. so whenever you called your guy you'd ask for mid if you didn't want reggie .. or if you wanted a step up from mid you'd ask if he had exotic... it was Basically a general term used for any seedless crazy smelling weed , even if he told you the strain name it was just a cool bonus to go with the purchase but nobody really cared ... it was so rare to find and sold so fast that by the time you bought some more it was gonna be a different strain anyway so we just called it exotic .. now (30 years later ) we say zah or zah zah instead of ( ex zah tic ) .... if I ask my guy if he got some zah he knows that I'm not talking about a strain called zah ... I'm asking if he has top quality bud in general... ..and if so the specifics on names & stuff will be figured out during the transaction....... and that's why I don't believe that zkittles has anything to do with strain "zah" , .. i know it seems like it would because of the Z ,and It might have zkittles in it for all I know .. but the word zah was being used as code on phones for top quality weed wayyyyy before zkittles hit the scene commercially .. . So it's a good chance that the creator of zah zah or whoever named it zah zah was just trying to say that it's top quality stuff ... because depending on where you're from that's exactly what zah zah means , top quality stuff
@@joeyattaway756💯 definitely no one called loud za in South Carolina. Some common names for high grade around here: loud, kush, gas, fire. Then you got mid, Reggie, beasters. We didn’t even care at all about strain names we just hit our dealer up and let him know we either want the loud or the mid. It wasn’t called zaza or za until the runtz wave came in and people started saying exotic more. I used to shop on the darknet as well and search extensively and never once did anyone ever use za, or exotic, to describe their high grade.
Is sprite renamed 7-up? I am running a couple 7-up crosses and it's phenomenal. The nose stings your nostrils like carbonated soda. Terps are limey sours carbonation soda. "7-up" is SunSimulators ✂️ of (ecsd x mss). Old heads will be familiar with SunSim. I ran zincfinger's genetics ecsd x (7-up x Stankbreath) so essentially an ecsd bx.
Fields said the parent of z came from a clone that was labeled as sherbert, he was on a live on ig with sherb and broke down the story during the pandemic
I found the seed identification talk pretty interesting. I totally get that and have done so, but at the same time, I've seen different males crossed to the same female produce 100% different seed morphology. Shape, size, mottling, color, everything. So it's not a 100% the same looking beans from the same mom, regardless, every time.
Youre 100% on the mark. Think of corn and tomatoes. If tomatoes cross pollinate, you wouldnt see it until you grow the seeds, but corn the seeds are bigger and what we eat from the plant so when it cross pollinates you see and taste it immediately. The seeds are the only thing on a plant that will grow/present different in that same generation, on pretty much any plant.
As its such a weak and fiddly var is there anychance it is a real IBL and was somehow even accidently bred to itself for numerous gens? It sounds fairly stable. Ive never had legit skittlez or any z shit here in the UK....i dont mess about with the mylar bag and 'cali pack' non sense and since 96 ive kept it local.... I know you dont much like Cali-O or Tangie Matt to say the least but you're 100% right the taste stays in your mouth....my original plug from 96-2001 used to grow Cali-O and Northern lights ....you could see through the bud lol but he would have 30oz on Tues and it would be gone on Friday...all 8ths and Qs ...when he went down we had to wait about 4 years til the tangie came around and man i had missed that terp....i hunt it everywhere i go now....also that original cali-o terp and all her daughters that carry it is a wkd medicinal var for ADHD and anxiety imo and experience ...one love man.....love your vidoes here in the UK
The sprite terp thing for me was around 2015, dirty sprite was the name I think. I feel like it is like a sweet tasting Super silver haze. Ssh to me is metallic tasting
The terpinolone is ssh is defo metallic imo ....I've never liked any haze apart from one called amazing haze which was only on sale from regine in Haarlem for a while before it won the cups and went all around NL ...there is still a subtle terpinolone taste but nowhere near as harsh as ssh,amnesia ,NL5XHAZE, lemon or nevilles ...
Za is short for exotics. Once things like Apple fritter, wedding cake came out ppl called those type of strains exotics, even tho nothing about those is exotic😂
Ran grape ape at work, and dropped her because of her thick bottoms. Just so many grape vines under her skirt. And then got a z cut, and it's pretty close on the bottom. Kinda viney also, but not as thick. Grape ape has to be one of the parents
Hey Matt I was in the discord and now it’s gone? I tried accessing it through Patreon but it’s not even an options to become a member. Miss the chats with everyone hope all is well
Probably a coincidence, first times I heard Skittles term, was as maybe 2008 no later than 2011. Cholo friend was like, Purple Skittles was the strongest bud I tried. Around same time, a buddy was getting into growing, he said he had Skittles.
It's crazy to me how some breeders are so shady. The "forbidden zkittles bx2" doesn't even have any z in the cross lol and then he calls it Bx2 like if that's supposed to mean something at that point... Goofy.
It’s why I started this whole ordeal and became one of the most hated people in cannabis. I always asked questions and confronted those pulling the bullshit. It’s wild
@ you really are. I remember reading so much bad stuff about you in my early days like 2010-2012 when I was looking through grasscity and RIU that I had a bunch a preconceived notions about you. But after watching this podcast for a little while now I noticed that people just hate being called out. Keep doing you man.
In house had a cross with purple punch that was out of this world. Zurple Punch bx Low 20s was average potency but it grew and taste great. Yeild was not bad either.
What happened to not so dog your new host thousandfold sounds like every first year grower TH-camr out there I really like your show it's just hard to listen to now
@@BreedersSyndicateI really appreciate your opinions on a lot of the subjects and I wish you would chime in more often either way I appreciate your shows
@@WatermelonPeople-t8c it genuinely sucks to admit. I was enamored with notso and his stories. When he used our community to fund a clone sale and didn’t follow thru on all of them after taking money, I had to either confront it or be complicit. We chose to fulfill his clone sales and eat the loss of money on our end. And he was removed from the group. I wish him the best and hope he gets life worked out
@@WatermelonPeople-t8c thanks my friend. I think this next season will be a bit better with me being vocal. While notso was on the show, he made it so anytime I spoke it seemed out of context, so in editing I ended up removing most of what I said. He’s good at lecture form but sucks at conversations. I truly hope he does a show where he can lecture on his own. And of course, hopefully doesn’t sell anything 😂
Oh yea CSI big ups too Caleb and all the work he does not to mention how much he blesses you in his orders
i want in!!..where to get beans ?
Csi Humboldt website
@@Alsashasdad same! pop those fallen soldiers, dudes!
@@nate6748facts.... chem d / fallen had all treasure
Haze beans have a certain look as well
I believe the slang term Za stems from the word Exotic, which in the “hood” is any good/pretty/loud weed
This was always my understanding as well.
As a product of the "hood" I can validate this hypothesis
As they say in the hood FACTS
EXOTICS, XZAHTIC shorted.. to EXO, exa, za.. brah
the slang Za born way before the Z i remember that
So we grew two seeds out of a five pack of *Peyote Skittlez* from 'seedsman' this year outdoors, we kept the tall girl and gave away the dwarf/mutant to friends and just chopped our pheno or her this weekend.
Her structure was tall 8ft chunky spears with purple Brach's, not the frostiest, but greasy and big yield but she is a full 10+ weeks.
She is fragrant, her terpene profile reeks of purple trainwreck with some skunky tones in fact her bud structure totally reminds of the purple trainwreck we grew indoors here in Michigan during the early medical years 2010-2014 same structure same smell but a tad stinkier.
I think peyote skittlez it is Purple trainwreck x Skunk... cross, definitely a bigger stinkier sturdier version of purple trainwreck IMHO
We were totally blessed with an amazing pheno of Peyote Skittlez (MAHALO SEEDSMAN!) in the five pack from seedsman, the only thing we could wish for would be an earlier version of her with more frost, thinking of crossing her with Space Panda to get everything of what we want as far as structure yields terpenes and earliness.
If successful the hybrid would be a real winner for outdoor growers because she was one of the most mold resistant strains that we grew this year, she pretty much shrugged off the terrible humid conditions we had this summer totally a keeper!
We have clones of both the Peyote Skittlez and the Space Panda that survived this wacky summer here on the west coast of Michigan.
Peyote Skittlez Smoke report, two week dry cure is super tasty, super smooth and super potent, Indica leaning with especially happy high notes on the end.
Yield is stellar btw on a 8ft x 6ft plant grown in organic sandy soil amended with horse manure, fish products by 'Alaska' (grow) 'Fox Farm' (happy frog) and locally caught carp/sucker.
looking forward to next season already!
Great episode on the Skittlez strain, thank you so much for sharing all your guys information and wisdom!
Aloha from Lower Michigan
CSI hell yea! I can't wait for this.
oh yeeaa, long time no hear from CSI
I’m enjoying this so much as I’m growing purple skittles right now
I'm growing PZ too, I have it with girl scout cookies, 1 month to go.
I grew csi jager x z and bubblegum x z and didnt get any z terps but the plants were nice and had huge huge amounts of resin.
Skittles cake 🎂 is my favorite
I have a Z crossed with sunset sherbet and it’s a citrusy grapefruit candy
Time to get my listen on
I have some old skunk seeds from 80’s my dad said look like mouse nuts!
1:07:05 I had a relatively pungent citrus-bergamot type pheno from sensi/white label feminized PPP. It was the only good one out of 3, very weak roots always wanting to mold and similar problems, but this one pheno was really beautiful, perfect sized buds all in the same height glowing light green and having that perfume-quality bergamot smell. I'm sure you would get many different citrus types when crossing it to any OG or polyhybrid US line.
I often hear breeders in the US started with some kind of sensi outdoor/indoor mix pack or their durban for breeding projects, could it be the case that there are way more "european" genes in US lines than usually thought?
Maybe some people use such mix packs on purpose to avoid getting into a moral dilemma when they have to explain the origin and names of the strains and can simply say that they really don't know ^^ (or e.g. "crossing random sensi S1/S2 seed with Durban, well let's call it F1 Durban, as it's basically a new F1 but Durban is the only name we have so let's use that" or something like that.)
I think the sprite is from Humbold Seed Collective, LLC Clones. It’s a clone. They released a few years ago and I know it’s been grown out in Oklahoma. Of course I could be wrong.
My 96' Silver Haze cut produces seeds with white tips, looks like french manicure lol
I love the z terp super complex
Got a cut of Platinum Z now. Structure looks better but not my favorite. Like how Farmer Dan said he liked to use it as a flavor modifier❤
Rainbow belt is skittles x moon bow cross. And moonbow is zkittles x do-si-do crossed
The word "Zah" is just a play on the word exotic .... back when mids & seeds was the norm down south we wasn't very good with strain names .. so if your dealer had some good seedless weed back then he'd let you know by saying he has some exotic too .... that eventually turned into zah for short ... I'm not sure if the strain zah has zkittles in it but I doubt it ... zah was being said as slang in the streets before zkittles existed commercially
What city or state that sounds new to me and I lived in the south east for years. Crippy sure kind sure. Local names sure. Zah wasn't even a word used for pizza down there.
@joeyattaway756 alabama & Georgia for sure ... around the early to mid 90s ...... in the streets you either had Reggie, mid or exotic ... .. so whenever you called your guy you'd ask for mid if you didn't want reggie .. or if you wanted a step up from mid you'd ask if he had exotic... it was Basically a general term used for any seedless crazy smelling weed , even if he told you the strain name it was just a cool bonus to go with the purchase but nobody really cared ... it was so rare to find and sold so fast that by the time you bought some more it was gonna be a different strain anyway so we just called it exotic .. now (30 years later ) we say zah or zah zah instead of ( ex zah tic ) .... if I ask my guy if he got some zah he knows that I'm not talking about a strain called zah ... I'm asking if he has top quality bud in general... ..and if so the specifics on names & stuff will be figured out during the transaction....... and that's why I don't believe that zkittles has anything to do with strain "zah" , .. i know it seems like it would because of the Z ,and It might have zkittles in it for all I know .. but the word zah was being used as code on phones for top quality weed wayyyyy before zkittles hit the scene commercially .. . So it's a good chance that the creator of zah zah or whoever named it zah zah was just trying to say that it's top quality stuff ... because depending on where you're from that's exactly what zah zah means , top quality stuff
show me those 'zatics!
@@joeyattaway756💯 definitely no one called loud za in South Carolina. Some common names for high grade around here: loud, kush, gas, fire. Then you got mid, Reggie, beasters. We didn’t even care at all about strain names we just hit our dealer up and let him know we either want the loud or the mid. It wasn’t called zaza or za until the runtz wave came in and people started saying exotic more. I used to shop on the darknet as well and search extensively and never once did anyone ever use za, or exotic, to describe their high grade.
The word za was totally new to me, but the idea of cookies shit being exotic is laughable, so prob why.
Love the morphology drawing❤😂!
Dirty zprite is from dying breed seeds (slymer x oz kush)
What about grafting zkittlez onto a better root stock
It’s def been done - our sometimes co host farmer Dan has done it successfully
Yayy I got here on time
I’ve got the z terps locked in by selecting from z3 f2’s
Tropical fruit and 7up is what I smell in my Z cut.
Is sprite renamed 7-up? I am running a couple 7-up crosses and it's phenomenal. The nose stings your nostrils like carbonated soda. Terps are limey sours carbonation soda. "7-up" is SunSimulators ✂️ of (ecsd x mss). Old heads will be familiar with SunSim. I ran zincfinger's genetics ecsd x (7-up x Stankbreath) so essentially an ecsd bx.
Don’t know, don’t care about any of the modern Z hybrids
@@BreedersSyndicate ok cool cuz it's not a z hybrid. 7up is an old ecsd x Mass Super Skunk cut from sunsimulator.
Great video man! I love the history and science behind the plant, my favorite part other then ya kno..terps n thc n stuff lol
Fields said the parent of z came from a clone that was labeled as sherbert, he was on a live on ig with sherb and broke down the story during the pandemic
The Rainbow Belts 2.0 seeds are shaped like an eggs
Running Rainbow Belts 2.0 now
Great stuff in it
Week 4 or 5 from seed and 2 out of the 3 are healthy, but slow veg due to them self-topping
Usually like the slow veg mutants for personal but we will see
I think the zkittlez is sherbert and lemon tree ?
Great breakdown! The strumming was distracting though.
Love @farmerdab7006 episodes 👊👊🤘
I found the seed identification talk pretty interesting. I totally get that and have done so, but at the same time, I've seen different males crossed to the same female produce 100% different seed morphology. Shape, size, mottling, color, everything. So it's not a 100% the same looking beans from the same mom, regardless, every time.
Exactly the male seems to affect seed shape and color, size seems to be more female dependent and time of pollination of course.
Youre 100% on the mark. Think of corn and tomatoes. If tomatoes cross pollinate, you wouldnt see it until you grow the seeds, but corn the seeds are bigger and what we eat from the plant so when it cross pollinates you see and taste it immediately. The seeds are the only thing on a plant that will grow/present different in that same generation, on pretty much any plant.
I thought za was short for exotic.
As its such a weak and fiddly var is there anychance it is a real IBL and was somehow even accidently bred to itself for numerous gens?
It sounds fairly stable.
Ive never had legit skittlez or any z shit here in the UK....i dont mess about with the mylar bag and 'cali pack' non sense and since 96 ive kept it local....
I know you dont much like Cali-O or Tangie Matt to say the least but you're 100% right the taste stays in your mouth....my original plug from 96-2001 used to grow Cali-O and Northern lights ....you could see through the bud lol but he would have 30oz on Tues and it would be gone on Friday...all 8ths and Qs ...when he went down we had to wait about 4 years til the tangie came around and man i had missed that terp....i hunt it everywhere i go now....also that original cali-o terp and all her daughters that carry it is a wkd medicinal var for ADHD and anxiety imo and experience ...one love man.....love your vidoes here in the UK
Sup boys!
inbreeding S1's for the win...
The sprite terp thing for me was around 2015, dirty sprite was the name I think. I feel like it is like a sweet tasting Super silver haze. Ssh to me is metallic tasting
The terpinolone is ssh is defo metallic imo ....I've never liked any haze apart from one called amazing haze which was only on sale from regine in Haarlem for a while before it won the cups and went all around NL ...there is still a subtle terpinolone taste but nowhere near as harsh as ssh,amnesia ,NL5XHAZE, lemon or nevilles ...
Za is short for exotics. Once things like Apple fritter, wedding cake came out ppl called those type of strains exotics, even tho nothing about those is exotic😂
Ran grape ape at work, and dropped her because of her thick bottoms. Just so many grape vines under her skirt. And then got a z cut, and it's pretty close on the bottom. Kinda viney also, but not as thick. Grape ape has to be one of the parents
Def not. z Isnt an urkel type. Whatsoever. And grape ape is almost all urkel
I believe Coca-Cola makes Sprite.😎
what a #Stellar show Dogs!!!! - #XLM #DicInu
Hey Matt I was in the discord and now it’s gone? I tried accessing it through Patreon but it’s not even an options to become a member. Miss the chats with everyone hope all is well
It’s def available via the Patreon 💜💜
Blue dream gets too high and Skittles doesn't huh
Probably a coincidence, first times I heard Skittles term, was as maybe 2008 no later than 2011.
Cholo friend was like, Purple Skittles was the strongest bud I tried. Around same time, a buddy was getting into growing, he said he had Skittles.
Thousand folds
voice is off . I think we have a kiwi imposter
You got me. I'm Scandinavian. 1k
100
It's crazy to me how some breeders are so shady. The "forbidden zkittles bx2" doesn't even have any z in the cross lol and then he calls it Bx2 like if that's supposed to mean something at that point... Goofy.
It’s why I started this whole ordeal and became one of the most hated people in cannabis. I always asked questions and confronted those pulling the bullshit. It’s wild
@ you really are. I remember reading so much bad stuff about you in my early days like 2010-2012 when I was looking through grasscity and RIU that I had a bunch a preconceived notions about you. But after watching this podcast for a little while now I noticed that people just hate being called out. Keep doing you man.
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In house had a cross with purple punch that was out of this world. Zurple Punch bx Low 20s was average potency but it grew and taste great. Yeild was not bad either.
next time put a cat on csi`s lap and make him a bond bad guy :)
Hhaha i love it
Where's notso???
Ask him, he gets mad and cries like a puto when i tell the truth
He'll get over it LMAO
za is from EXAATICS BRAH... for real, mispronounced exotics, aka zoh, za, zaza
What happened to not so dog your new host thousandfold sounds like every first year grower TH-camr out there I really like your show it's just hard to listen to now
Notsodog did some naughty things behind the scenes. I choose honesty and integrity over facade
Thank you for your reply I appreciate it honesty and integrity is very important
@@BreedersSyndicateI really appreciate your opinions on a lot of the subjects and I wish you would chime in more often either way I appreciate your shows
@@WatermelonPeople-t8c it genuinely sucks to admit. I was enamored with notso and his stories. When he used our community to fund a clone sale and didn’t follow thru on all of them after taking money, I had to either confront it or be complicit. We chose to fulfill his clone sales and eat the loss of money on our end. And he was removed from the group. I wish him the best and hope he gets life worked out
@@WatermelonPeople-t8c thanks my friend. I think this next season will be a bit better with me being vocal. While notso was on the show, he made it so anytime I spoke it seemed out of context, so in editing I ended up removing most of what I said. He’s good at lecture form but sucks at conversations. I truly hope he does a show where he can lecture on his own. And of course, hopefully doesn’t sell anything 😂