Brandywine Wargame: "Professional Historians vs. Professional Wargamers"
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- The wait is over! Check out our interactive wargame between the "wargaming professionals" of @LittleWarsTV and the "professional historians" led by the American Battlefield Trust's own Garry Adelman. In August you guys were able to take the roles of George Washington and British General William Howe and vote on critical decisions during the battle. Watch now to see how your commands turned out! Will they affect the outcome of one of the largest battles of the Revolutionary War?
The wargame has two endings. You can visit each here:
Ending #1, Support Sullivan: • Ending #1 Support Sull...
Ending #2, Retreat to Dilworth: • Ending #2 Secure the R...
Check out the instructional video from Little Wars TV to learn how we played the game: • Learn to Play Live Fre...
Check out the instructional video from Little Wars TV to learn how we played the game: th-cam.com/video/Doj7Uf3qQao/w-d-xo.html
Retreat in an orderly fashion to Dilworth but halfway to the city, have the separate groups draw straws on who has to stay behind to stall the enemy chase while their main forces combine at the city. The stall tactics should provide enough time to entrench and reinforce the city.
Yo this is soo cool can you guys get more going? If possible it looks like a lot of work. But fun. lol
@@elmogreen107 Check out the Little Wars TV channel for tons of videos!
referee: *HOW DID THAT SQUAD OF ULTRA MARINES GET ON THE TABLE?*
Drop pods probably
"General Washington it appears the Orks have committed to a Waaaaghhh at our flank"
Heavy flamers
Heresy DETECTED!
@@SlocumJoe7740 roll for animosity.
"General Washington, who are those giant metal men tearing apart the Redcoats?!"
"Son, the Emperor protects."
Nice
Emperor George III?
@@MrTwiglet based
The emperor would be on our side..
*Samus is the man beside you...*
The XVII Legio Astartes has arrived...
Fall back to Dillworth. Maintain the line of retreat. Then, call
in an F/A18 Strike to regain the initiative.
Don't forget to deepstrike your terminators W/ lighting claws behind enemy lines to cause disruption
@@curtisbrown547 at night, in their camp...
*Ave Dominus Nox*
@@curtisbrown547 I prefer the Thunder Hammer and Shield option to the claws. And sometimes you can use a few well placed Bike Squads can cause just as much disruption. (I am a White Scars player :) )
NO JOKE: I thought this was a video for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game doing a scenario at the Brandywine Bridge in The Shire. But I guess I'll watch anyway??
That would be something I would watch
Same lol. But they have actually done an amazing job with this video!! I love the snippet of history and background at the beginning.
That's where I know brandywine from, love battle for middle earth 2 age of the ring
Feeding the Algorithm. This was genuinely delightful, and then You hit with me with the two endings!? **chef kiss**
Not sure how I got here but….
This is how I know I'm getting older. When I start to move from the Warhammer table to the historical table.
Is it really sutch a bad thing? I mean look at how much fun their having lol
Dang it Garry, you're ruining my life. I barely get done on your Gettysburg walks and now I have to see the Brandywine Wargame. I guess I'll play Ultimate General while I'm waiting...
Antietam 159 coming Thursday through Saturday!
Hope ultimate general comes out with a revolutionary war game soon. I remember hearing there's one in the works.
Which version of ultimate General?
@@Alex-ej4wm That would be fun. Im currently stuck on the second day of shiloh. Completely run out of ammo and steam. Cant take the union on but cant sit idly by
@@ANZACJugger0
Yeah that one's a slugfest and so early in the game. Good luck👍
I love the alternate history options you incorporate into these wargames. Keep this series coming!
This is actually so cool, basically boomer warhammer
Lol ill give boomers a point for this one
I really hope you realise that wargames predate boomers and that warhammer is a parody of earlier scifi wargames.
Big Warhams player here, but I can tell you now, these guys are hardcore. I've played similiar scale historic wargames... and it is way more intense in its own way than 40k /AOS. Id love to have a run with these boomers, especially with the historic knowledge in the room.
Warhammer sucks...
I thought Warhammer was also for boomers
Realy nice concept for a tabletop game... the historical background with the alternate history choices born from vote and reactions to this from the other players with historical true troop counts and terrain. Love it.
I did my undergrad internship at the Brandywine battlefield. It was awesome.
THERE ARE PROFESSIONAL WARGAMERS? MARTHA GET THE KREIGSPEIL SET!
This is actually pretty cool.
I'm going to pause it and come back later because I feel the video and intelligence involved requires full attention and right now mine is divided.
That historian is such a nerd. I love it, reminds me of me.
How many Teddy bears were slaughtered making four battlefields???😉 great game chaps!
Loved this, great idea and nicely done. As a Brit the whole What If thing is intriguing. Keep up the good work.
As a military history major and warhammer gamer, i subbed after 35s.
Great quality, amazing balance of concept in gaming and history.
Excited to dig into your backlog!
I was a tabletop gamer for many years, though not for a while. I was mostly into Napoleonics, but MOL the same era as this. The problem that the historians will have is that the gamers will know the intricacies of the game mechanics far far far better than they will. It would be like me vs. Ernie Banks at 1960s era fantasy baseball. He may know the players far better than me, but I know the game system and he doesn't. It would be (almost) as unfair a contest as he vs me in a home run derby.
In these matches with a referee, they try and keep it cool. Of course you point still stands correct. But the referee tend to advise and explain about game mechanics during play as to give more info on how to deal with it. Making it not that much one sided.
I served with a British regiment that the Brandywine battle honour on their beret.
I thought the Brits didn't count battles fought against the Yanks for battle honors.
@@hoosieryank6731 I'm British not actually sure I'll have to look that up don't really learn about the war of independence at school
@@marleymatthews7633 Clarification: The War for Independence. I'm certain they included the War of 1812! :-) I was told that the AWI didn't count as it was technically an "insurrection."
@@hoosieryank6731 I'm really going to have to do my research because both wars aren't taught in British school so I'm really not familiar with this subject but I am interested init though recently
@@hoosieryank6731 I don’t think on regimental colours, this was a red cloth triangle sew on the beret behind the regimental badge.
This is a fascinating concept. Just found this channel and if this type of content is a consistent part of the channel I'm definitely subbing.
Thank you guys for making this. Absolutely loved it. Felt like I was there with you guys, having a great time!
I feel like leaving several of the fords completely undefended kind of negates the point of using the river as a defense.
I guess there weren’t enough corps
They didn't have enough troops, just like IRL
Well spreading yourself out covering a multitude of points that could be broken through with a concentrated force is a worse decision then just relying on the river. If you don’t have the troops spreading yourself thin is an even worse option.
After watching several of Brandon's videos on the War of Independence, it's such a fascinating period of history miltarily and politically. But this is what the school books lack when they say "X won the battle of Y", in the details of the actual tactical engagement. Great video guys, thanks
Greg, what a great set of videos! You have done a excellent job. Great location, great players and amazing looking game boards and miniatures. Keep up the great work!
So fun! I wish the tables had a North arrow to easier orient myself when looking at the maps.
I love history at this part I'll with order and orderly fashion retreat so that we live to fight another day. P.S Keep this series going"!
This is so cool. Went and subscribed to little wars tv right after i finished this battle video. I hope to see more of this kind of video along with the other great videos you guys make.
this is so well made, i cannot believe it. thank you
This was great! Please make more of these!!
This was a really well put together video. I'm not really into historical games myself, but I could tell everyone was having fun, and that made it fun to watch.
Love that miniature wargaming is still played. Used to play DBA back in high school 30 yrs ago.
YOU GUYS ARE SO AWESOME!!!!!! I love both channels!
Gary's working that Tricorn!
im happy that this was recommended to me, im always intrigue with strategy games/battles even tho im not good at it
Now this is a interesting video. I like historical military battles and I play military table top and board games myself.
You have my curiosity to see what else is on your channel.
I would love one of these for the Antietam
This gave me so many ideas for future projects! Thanks so much! 😊👍
After Living in Delaware near Cooch's Bridge and working in Philly for 6 years all of this is really real for me. Been to many of these places. Cool channel.
I don’t even play table top strategy games and was still entertained
yalll are so friggen nerdy for history I LOVE ITTT
Brandywine is threatened every year. To my perception the only thing saving it is a petition called Save The Valley Initiative.
This is phenomenal. What an amazing channel
Love this!
What a great way to look at a historical battle!
Awesome video that randomly popped up well worth the watch
love the optional ending! very cool video!
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing.
The voice acting is such a nice touch!
Wow! It's fabulous!
Love the team aspect, makes the battle massive
Oh gods. The pressure.
This is so much easier when I am the DM.
Okay, we can't get pincered. But flank is holding.
We gotta pull pack and hold that town.
We have to play dirty. Guerrilla tactics initiated. We shall fight street by street and window by window!
ONWARD MEN!!!!
why is this so awesome? please do more like this!
Check out the Little Wars TV channel for endless wargaming!
Washington was great at grand strategy, not so great at battlefield tactics. I'm honestly not familiar with the decision that Washington made but a general retreat with a rearguard action seems like the only choice to make here.
Aw, I thought there'd be a tabletop about the area surrounding the Brandywine in the Shire.
Wow, great video, well done!
So cool thanks for posting
Cool Consept, great execution
17:18 I love this 😂
I lived next to the brandywine river four a few years
If you can make it to the Brandywine Battlefield it's beautiful this time of year.
I love your interactive idea.
this is the nerdiest thing i think I've found on youtube and I love it.
This is awesome, thanks everyone!
Great wargame and I loved the commentary.
I’ll say the US Army subscribes to the theory that this was not a “humiliating defeat.” Washington’s army-not the city- was his center of gravity. It survived, so the tactical loss didn’t turn into a strategic loss
Awesome!
I cannot in good conscience leave a compatriot to die, I declare aid for Sullivan.
This is really cool!
Now I'm invested in this battle.
This was great! I was surprised that the opposite of my choice worked out the best. 🤦🏻♂️
Glad this popped up in my recommended
Really interesting video and concept 👌
I drive by this every day!
What an excellent idea!
Middle school teachers who know table top war games!!!? Where were youuuuuuu when I was in school
This is amazing! One question, how did you resolve a battle at a Ford that isn't on a table?
Was thinking the same
Winner gets naming rights just like they did in the before times. Hence _harried son Ford_ rather than _killiam Al ford_
Such a cool idea wish I could smash like more than once!
This was super neat y'all! Any chance y'all could do the battle of 1812?
a tactic used by the romans, caltrops (tribulus) on the fjords of the rivers where they could be completely missed and cause massive losses while in treacherous terrain. This is something that is mainly forgotton on early to mid gunpowder wars.
Great stuff bobbleheadgeorge - Im a history teacher in the UK and your stuff is great
This is like adult action figures and I’m all for it
"so my first Battalion shoots at your Dreadnought and does......no Damage because it's a Giant Mech...wait this isn't Historically Accurataaaaand he won"
If I remember correctly, Howe was ordered to move toward Philadelphia, by one lord Germaine, from within England.
I saw brandywine and was like "is this the battle in shire from lord of the rings?"
This is very impressive
Tease! Hoo Aahhh!
Huh. Neat. Nathaniel Greene was my *some number of greats* grandfather. Wasn't expecting to see him crop up in a random youtube suggestion.
I can’t wait for virtual reality gets advanced enough to be able to reenact this battle from the first person
Those reenactor always look well fed!😂🤣😂🤣
Your friend there Greg.. has the profile of Abraham Lincoln. Put a beard on him and a stove top hat.
divide the southern army into a main force to send north and a contingency force to scout and prepare dillsworth
good for you guys. happy to subscribe and bring more attention to an educational history youtube channel. you all seem really great! keep it up!
Did the British side know that the Americans had such poor intelligence compared to their own? If so, it would be a considerable and probably unfair advantage. Knowing things the enemy doesn't is one thing - knowing the enemy doesn't know them is even better but seems unlikely in this situation.
Fun fact: When measured by length or number of soldiers deployed, the largest battle of the American Revolutionary War was... the Siege of Gibraltar in Spain.
It lasted three and a half years and involved nearly 80,000 soldiers.
Which just serves to show that at the end of the day, the American Revolution _was_ a global conflict.
Now this is what I've been waiting for, Boomer Warhammer!!!
I wonder how it would have played had the American players decided to do an assault on the British rather than a broad defense -- tables turned, perhaps??
That’s a very napoleon play, engage them in sections before they can communicate and while they are marching away from eachother to begin the broad assault
I doubt the Revolutionary Army of 1777 was capable of an attack on British regulars
@@vanpallandt5799 It may have been possible if they were drilled enough and had accurate maps. The issue was that they simply didn’t have enough coordination at the time.
@@cryamistellimek9184 thats what i said...they lacked the training and coordination.
Gary looks exhausted in this video. Hope you are well brother.
I don't know why I watched this, but im glad.
Those British uniforms are lit!
Please, more of this, oh TH-cam gods...