Does the Chieftain Fit Into.... a Ford Model T

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  • Filmed during a down-moment on a maintenance day at the Ontario Regiment Museum, which explains the fashion choice. Would rather old Army gear get oily than my jeans. The Model T is small and so old that I have to ask someone else at the end of the video how to drive it. Apparently the first conventional pedal arrangement was the Cadillac Model 53, but few people bought it. then the Austin 7 used it, and it was popular.
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  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    The first car with what would become the standard pedal set-up was the 1916 Cadillac. It had, from left to right, clutch, brake, and, accelerator pedals. Plus, it had a keyed ignition, and, an electric starter. Groundbreaking stuff in 1916.

    • @ExUSSailor
      @ExUSSailor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      "Black Jack" Pershing brought several on the punitive expedition to Mexico.

    • @2pugman
      @2pugman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The throttle was on the right side of the steering wheel. To get into reverse, you pressed in the clutch ,far left and then stepped on the center pedal all the way in and then let up on the clutch for reverse. GREAT TO DRIVE.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely. Austin stole that and the rest of the world followed his lead.

    • @danielstickney2400
      @danielstickney2400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm not an expert on cars but most trucks of that era had the clutch on the left, the brake on the right and the throttle in the middle. One early truck I am quite familiar with, the FWD Model B, had a foot throttle that could be converted from vertical to to sideways travel by flipping the bell crank 90 degrees so when you were pounding across rough terrain you could brace your foot against the foot plate and not worry about your foot bouncing on the throttle pedal and possibly breaking the throttle linkage or the carburetor. Which is probably the same reason why the Model T has a hand throttle instead of a throttle pedal, there being very little difference between on- and off-road back then.
      One reason I think that never caught on, besides the fact that you had to have the throttle in the middle to give it room to move in an arc, is twisting your foot to push the throttle pin sideways for any length of time is just pure hell on the driver's right knee.

    • @BleedingUranium
      @BleedingUranium 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Would be cool if modern cars had a throttle. It's neat that the modern setup was standardized that early... but at the same time standardization always makes me a bit sad.

  • @echo_9835
    @echo_9835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    "Help! I don't know how to drive a Model T" is a great quote.

    • @cameronlamb7274
      @cameronlamb7274 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Throttle and spark advance on the steering column. The lever is used in conjunction with the far left pedal to go into first and second. There is also a brake and reverse pedal.

    • @SpudsMcCat
      @SpudsMcCat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@cameronlamb7274I thought it didn't have reverse. rather you put it on the hack, and spun it 180?

  • @Vespuchian
    @Vespuchian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +274

    Nick is *clearly* not used to suspension that expects loads measured in pounds and not tons.
    One of the more enjoyable episodes of this highly enjoyable series!

    • @sebastianthomsen2225
      @sebastianthomsen2225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      if you think the suspension on this is bad then try a 2CV !

    • @sinisatrlin840
      @sinisatrlin840 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@sebastianthomsen2225 2CV6 has suspension built for 40s country roads, T had simillar requierments. Stiffer suspensions do not like countrside gravel roads with water filled ditches.
      They are fine, and well built for their time.

    • @sebastianthomsen2225
      @sebastianthomsen2225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sinisatrlin840 yes its just you bounce all over the place when they go over holes in the road!

    • @sinisatrlin840
      @sinisatrlin840 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sebastianthomsen2225 With stiff suspension your wheels are in the air and driver has no any controll. Plus your head is banging on the foof. 40s requirements, pawed roads are seldom seen.

    • @prjndigo
      @prjndigo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      stone, not pounds

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Oh bugger, the Model T is on fire.
    Chieftain: well, it’s been a good life…

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Meanwhile source of fire right beneath your back: ❤‍🔥

  • @claytonmachine12
    @claytonmachine12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    "Is this the gearshift or the handbrake"
    Yes.

  • @dillonhunt1720
    @dillonhunt1720 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Probably the first time getting into a vehicle was a significant emotional event

    • @fathead8933
      @fathead8933 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      You're a 20-year cavalry soldier. You've been on horseback in the middle of the plains for the entire time. You are standing their in formation, waiting for the new secret weapon, and this drives up. Only modern equivalent is aliens landing.

    • @user-zm6sc6sy3w
      @user-zm6sc6sy3w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fathead8933😂😂

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +224

    It would have been....interesting....to see the Chieftain walking around in a trench in WW1.
    Next we need to see the Chieftain fit into a Peel P50. He's as tall as Clarkson but...thinner.

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      We must...

    • @michaelguerin56
      @michaelguerin56 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Look up ‘unGodley trench’!

    • @Skorpychan
      @Skorpychan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sand him to Ypres, there's a reconstructed WW1 trench system there.

    • @aaroncfriedman
      @aaroncfriedman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      An armored p50 is a p51m, its not but it should be

    • @RussianThunderrr
      @RussianThunderrr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      wrote: "It would have been....interesting....to see the Chieftain walking around in a trench in WW1. "
      -- With his head sticking above the trench, probably....

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    Many Model Ts only had a door on the curb side. Generally, you were expected to get in on that side and slide over, which also makes it much easier to get your legs under the steering wheel.
    PS: gear selector is usually the left hand pedal. It's a complex procedure. If memory serves, the left pedal is gears - hold to the floor for first, halfway out for neutral, and all the way out for second (yes, that means you're constantly pushing that pedal to the floor for lower speeds.) As it's an epicyclic gearbox, there's no clutch _per se,_ with the selector pedal tightening or loosening the bands in the box, effectively operating as the clutch as you push the pedal in and out of gear.
    The center pedal (often not in line with the others) is usually for selecting _reverse,_ and the right hand pedal should be the brake. No gas pedal, as this is on the column. Opposite the ignition advance.
    It must have been interesting changing from one car to another before they standardized on the Caddy layout.
    Edit: I see you've found the font of knowledge in the building - bravo. There's absolutely no way to avoid potential danger if you try to work this stuff out as you go. 👍

    • @zoranocokoljic8927
      @zoranocokoljic8927 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This one is millitary issue, and one can not expect an officier to use the same door as the driver; at least not in those days.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@zoranocokoljic8927 Major Patton personally drove all of the FT tanks off a train once in WWI because no one else knew how to drive them in the US Army.

    • @krzysztofkolodziejczyk4335
      @krzysztofkolodziejczyk4335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      In Poland inbetween wars 2 types of driving licence were issued: one for Fords and second for all other cars.

    • @DaremoKamen
      @DaremoKamen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder if another option for someone as tall as the Chieftain would be, fold up the top and climb over the back of the seat.

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A fine example of the massive and hugely influential innovations Ford and Co came up with, even given that they a terrifying deathtraps by modern standards.
      Which isn't really at all fair, judging them by the standards of over 100 years later, but I'd still almost certainly pass on the opportunity for a ride in one, thanks. 😅😰
      Gah, a top speed of 42 miles per hour in that thing? Yeah, no thanks. Though again, pretty impressive given the whole 20 horsepower the engine put out.

  • @theol.1988
    @theol.1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    I find this series very relatable, being 195cm tall in a country in which the average is 170cm.
    Edit: Lmao the first minute is just straight up ridiculous. 🤣

    • @arandomfawn5289
      @arandomfawn5289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      “Is it going to tip or not” must have been a bet placed by at least some of the employees there

    • @willpugh8865
      @willpugh8865 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking - bro im 185 cms you can be that much taller , googled it snd realized, ya that guys tall 😂

    • @theol.1988
      @theol.1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@willpugh8865 Yes, indeed, the Chieftain is a tall man. Hence this series.

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎶Big Man in a little truck😅

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Do you find something funny about my appearance when I am
      driving my automobile? Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This is the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore, be made the subject of fun?”

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I appreciate Nick being careful with stepping on the running boards, but the T's were made with vanadium alloy steel, since they were designed to be driven on unpaved and even non-existent roads. The Model T might be considered the world's first popular "off-road vehicle."

    • @M.M.83-U
      @M.M.83-U 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      more a "what's a road?" vehicle.

    • @ab5olut3zero95
      @ab5olut3zero95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      IIRC the first team to drive completely across the US- before there were roads of any sort- did so in a Model T.

    • @vksasdgaming9472
      @vksasdgaming9472 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was true all-round vehicle and occasionally served as tractor and stationary engine as well. True generalist machine.

  • @aidanacebo9529
    @aidanacebo9529 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I own a 1917 Model T touring, it's easier if you get in on the right side, when the top is down. I'm also 6 foot 2 and about 375lbs. I drive mine at least once a week.
    If the Chieftain would be so interested to do so, I would be more than willing to provide my Model T for a bit of filming, or simply a hands-on lesson on operating the Ford Model T... provided The Chieftain would be willing to come to the Gainesville Florida area.

    • @Mr-Trox
      @Mr-Trox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please post a video of your Model T. There's not enough videos of those around.

  • @bburchellphotos
    @bburchellphotos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    There's an old TopGear episode where Clarkson and May test out really old vintage cars to compare how the controls were laid out and the Model T was in it. Some old cars looked quite baffling and outright dangerous to the user 😆

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      At least this Model T has an electric starter and cannot run over its own driver during the starting procedure, as the hand-cranked ones occasionally did. :)

    • @firepower7017
      @firepower7017 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ZGryphonIt was only the case if the vehicle wasn't in neutral. But what was the common issue with hand crank starters was pre-ignition, it would either injure the arm of the user or become fatal.
      The issue was solved with the invention of leaded gas. At the cost of your arm. Now it goes for the lungs.

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      They did a special once (I think it was a DVD) where they were in Monaco, staying at one of the ultra-fancy hotels, where there are only a few parking spots out front. You park your car and go in, but if someone else shows up with a nicer car than yours, the valet drives your car away to a garage, so it turned into a game to find a car someone else wouldn't be able to beat. Being Monaco, nicer cars kept on coming, so they eventually brought a Model T, knowing the valet would have no idea how to get it started and drive it away.

    • @ExtremelyAverageMan
      @ExtremelyAverageMan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It truly took a good understanding of the system as a whole to know how to operate it, unlike vehicles nowadays haha.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@ZGryphonThe more classic injury was likely the car backfiring and smashing the operator with the crank handle.
      That happened to a friend of Leland's and as a result he made them standard on all his cars at Cadillac.
      I don't believe he was the first with an electric starter in his cars, but he was the first to make them the standard method of starting.

  • @cargo_vroom9729
    @cargo_vroom9729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Seeing if The Chieftain fits in various vehicles is like a bizzaro retelling of Cinderella.

  • @WhiteWulfe
    @WhiteWulfe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Props to the camera operator for keeping that first minute or so where The Chieftain is trying to get in from the driver's side still! That's some skill to hold in what was probably a massive urge to laugh rather loudly AND keep the shot steady!

  • @daminox
    @daminox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I laughed right along with him when he stepped on the running board and the whole thing tipped and creaked 😂

  • @markfryer9880
    @markfryer9880 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Model T Field Ambulance behind The Chieftain is the US Pattern type. The capacity was two stretchers and attendant in the rear.
    The British Army type (not seen here) was a larger box body with room for four stretchers and attendant. The front driving position had seating for two, possibly three under a canvas bonnet and folding glass windscreen.
    The two bottom stretchers had bench type seating underneath them for carrying walking wounded. The upper stretchers were removed for such duty.
    Melbourne Grammar School Old Grammarians raised funds for the purchase of two such Ambulances for use on the Western Front. One was destroyed in the field and a Sergeant from the RAC salvaged the brass plaque fixed to the vehicle. His family found it amongst his belongings after he passed away post war and they returned the plaque to the School.
    The plaque complete with bullet hole and shrapnel ding is mounted on a honour board describing the story and that is mounted on a wall just in front of the stage in the Memorial Hall built in memory of the fallen Old Grammarians from the Boer War, World War One and Two with Honour Rolls of the fallen in the foyer.
    There are also displays for the two Victoria Cross recipients, one from WWI and one from WWII.
    The WWII VC was for a pilot who crash landed his bomber in an attempt to get help for his gravely wounded crew. They died from their wounds and he was beheaded by the Japanese.
    Lest We Forget
    Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

  • @AdamWeber-pi1gs
    @AdamWeber-pi1gs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My paternal grand father's Army job was readying Model T trucks for shipment overseas. Trained mechanics were thin on the ground back then so he became an instant Sergeant. I have never seen a military Model T truck so many thanks for putting a "face to a name" for me!

  • @mwhyte1979
    @mwhyte1979 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Watching Nick trying to make heads or tails of a Ford Model T has just made my day.

  • @SgtBrendanN
    @SgtBrendanN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Henry Ford Museum - Greenfield Village in Detroit offers rides in their Model-Ts, and you can sign up for a class on how to drive them. Some of them are actually new, purpose built Model-Ts, build by Ford off of original specs to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Model-T.

    • @BleedingUranium
      @BleedingUranium 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Man, I wish we had modern-built reproductions of classic things more often.

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My Dad drove both Model As and Ts, but always said his Stanley Steamer was his best pre WWII vehicle as it was never short of possible fuel no matter where he drove it.

    • @zachsmith1676
      @zachsmith1676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      because Kerosene was more accessible? the Water is obviously easy to come by, pretty much any stream or similar such bodies of water would do (cleaner/clearer the body of water, the better... less contaminates you'll eventually have to clean out)

    • @cheyannei5983
      @cheyannei5983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@zachsmith1676Probably? It would have been widely used for lanterns and the like, wouldn't it?

  • @michelesilvestri8340
    @michelesilvestri8340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I now wanna see if The Chieftain fits in a 1980 Fiat 500

    • @CoffeeOnRails
      @CoffeeOnRails 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same, and an original Mini Cooper

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alternatively a Polski Fiat 126p aka Maluch would do.

    • @borismekler
      @borismekler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Messerschmitt Kabinenroller.

    • @grimlock1471
      @grimlock1471 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The BACK seat of the Fiat.😂

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CoffeeOnRails He should fit in a classic Mini, although it could be close. I'm 6' 0" and usually had about 4-5" of headroom when I dailyed a '77 Clubman. And the seat could go back far enough that I couldn't actually touch the pedals. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @traildogisla
    @traildogisla 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Such a simple but delightful concept for a series of videos and it never fails

  • @myfavoritemartian1
    @myfavoritemartian1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Many models had only a right side door so the driver could slide in. BUT aftermarket made a "Fat Boy" steering wheel that folded up out of the way to facilitate oversized persons. The easiest part was during a panic stop, just press solidly on ALL three pedals at once! (It killed the engine and locked it in two gears( pulling the lever) and locked the rear brake band-which was a band/drum on the driveshaft.)

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So this IS a feature after all. Make sense why they are so close now.

  • @rogerhinman5427
    @rogerhinman5427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My Dad learned how to drive on a Model T pickup similar to that one. I found this to be a humorous and relatable video.

  • @MrKronikDeception
    @MrKronikDeception 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    ACU (UCP) bottoms and (old) PT wind breaker.
    NCO senses have been triggered.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's an officer... NCO senses are bamboozled.

  • @genericpersonx333
    @genericpersonx333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    My Grandfather was given his first Model-T in 1919, at the age of 12, to drive himself to school. Supposedly, his own father, at just under 6 foot tall, found the Model T a bit cramped.

    • @paulmanson253
      @paulmanson253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The earliest Ts did not have a starter motor. Hand crank only. Just a guess, but likely here. A 12 year old would find starting one tough. Only had about 4 to 1 compression,but nevertheless. Also required a maintenance schedule unacceptable to modern standards. Constant adjustment of engine and big end bearings,plus other stuff. If your grandfather managed all that,quite an achievement.
      My own father,born 1920,rode a horse to school for two or three years. Having a T meant a big deal to the likes of your grandfather.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed it was. It did help that he was a big and healthy boy and as the only son of a prosperous farmer, there was always money to spare on him getting the tools and training he needed for things, including keeping the Model T running mostly on his own.
      The great irony is that they got him the Model T because it saved the farm losing a working horse for the day, which meant they didn't need to give more acreage to foddering.
      ​@@paulmanson253​

    • @cheyannei5983
      @cheyannei5983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@paulmanson253I imagine if a 12 year old is being given a car that they can afford someone to do the maintenance, or could do it themselves.
      My own grandfather went to school on a horse and buggy. They still called it a school bus, apparently!

    • @pauld6967
      @pauld6967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cheyannei5983You are correct. The self-propelled "bus" inherited the name from the horse-drawn vehicle.

  • @gerryg1056
    @gerryg1056 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ha, that's nothing! Once many years ago I was involved in specialist and historic vehicle movements, we had a WW2 jeep in and rotund as I was then could not fit between seat and steering wheel. Obviously we've all grown immensely since then, presumably thanks in no small part to MacDonald's/Burger King etc. Interestingly, we also moved modern WRC rally cars and someone once remarked they're not the easiest things to get into (lots of roll cage bars and wrap around seats etc.) to which my reply was "yes, but it's amazing how fast you can exit one if it's on fire!"

  • @LeftCoastStephen
    @LeftCoastStephen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watching your attempts to get in has made me realize why my grandfather had a 1917 Mclaughlin-Buick. He was 6’5” so would have had similar issues.
    It was his favourite car of all even though lived to 94 years. His last car was a Mercedes which he used to haul hat for his horses.

  • @smokerjim
    @smokerjim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It was Cadillac that first had clutch - brake - accelerator pedal box... but it was the Austin 7 that arguably popularised that configuration around the world.

  • @swwy5
    @swwy5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My f,ather restored Model Ts for many years. I have never seen one with a door on the driver's side because of the parking brake lever making it all but impossible to enter. Note; the parking brake lever, when brought into the correct position will put the trans in neutral so reverse can be engaged. The trans uses planetary gears and bands, like most modern automatic trans, so no clutch is needed. People back in that day were generally smaller in stature.

  • @bofoenss8393
    @bofoenss8393 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This makes me miss the "Oh no! The tank is on fire!" series... It was very fun

    • @jefferyindorf699
      @jefferyindorf699 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I almost wished he said "Oh, bugger, the model T is on fire " when he exited it.

  • @mga149
    @mga149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had a co-worker back in late 90s early 2000s that had a model-t. We'd occasionally cruse down Woodward in it for lunch.
    I don't remember the tub being that narrow. My co-worker's was a 1915 model and had a flat firewall that reached all the way to the side steps. It wasn't anywhere as tight to get in and out. I'm guessing this is a later model with a more streamlined cowl/firewall and smaller doors.
    The springs were definitely just as bouncy. You didn't want to drive much faster than 35-40mph, even on smooth pavement.

  • @SamGray
    @SamGray 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm only 5'9.5" but when I got to sit in a Model T it seemed quite confined to me. The colonel here is obviously too much Irishman for the victor. 😂

  • @b2tall239
    @b2tall239 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm always amazed when I see authentic uniforms from "back in the day" at how small the soldiers were.

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Props for Chieftain still having his old Winter APFT jacket....

  • @pvtmadmike
    @pvtmadmike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To the Chieftain thank you once again for joining us in the remembrance day parade . we spoke briefly about the Humvee I was driving. And it is always a pleasure to have you join our ranks. Here at the ONTAR museum. With out you driving an extra vehicle it would have been one less in the parade to Honour our Veterans. Again thank-you from my self on behalf of the museum and thank you for your service as well.

  • @hidemisakamoto7707
    @hidemisakamoto7707 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    OMG the Model T is on fire!

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Fun Fact! You'll see people in old movies all enter from the passenger side. That's how you're supposed to do it. Safety feature I think.

    • @DoctorShocktor
      @DoctorShocktor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fun maybe,but not a fact. The actual reason that you get curbside entries and exits in entertainments is due to CAMERA SETUPS. Unlike today, they didn’t have camera operators wearing steadicams, rather their cameras were mounted on dollies, or fixed tripods. This meant that the camera was set up in a fixed location, and couldn’t move around to the other side of a car (street side) unless you detached it from their supports, reset it up, reset the lighting, reset the sound recording, reset the electrical cables and the crew. This takes a lot of time/money unless you absolutely need a street side entry shot, so they often just shot curbside since they could follow actors to/from the car to where ever they were coming/going. In addition, if you ARE shooting the car arrival from the STREET side (to have an immediate close up of the driver’s face), it avoids having to follow the actor around the massive land yachts of the time, which would be again a waste of time/money.

    • @Austin-modelt
      @Austin-modelt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, the only reason is because of what the chieftan experienced. The hand brake is in the way. All but foregin made model ts had no drivers door.

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Now we are all thinking about the smallest vehicles the chieftain can try to fit in (this could be a series on its own) ....great sense of humour there big fellow !👍

    • @zachsmith1676
      @zachsmith1676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the smallest so far is the Polish TLS tankette

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@zachsmith1676also, smallest may not be the most cramped.
      Something like the CMP is a fairly sizeable vehicle, it is just designed in such a way that there is no space for a human operator.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The CMP is the current winner for "most undriveable", but there are at least two more filmed and not yet released which are worse.

    • @whiskeyinthejar24
      @whiskeyinthejar24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@88porpoiseyep, sat in one once, not pleasant.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the way he looked for the adjustable seats

  • @albertpolak786
    @albertpolak786 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Some Model Ts had a steering wheel that could pivot up to make it easier to get in, exactly what you struggled with. This one doesn't appear to have that.

  • @lawrencelaird2919
    @lawrencelaird2919 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As I recall, if you come upon a steep hill, you have to drive up in reverse. Fuel in the rear (gravity fed?)

    • @hughbarton5743
      @hughbarton5743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In most cases, the fuel tank was in the upper cowl area, above the engine, and behind it. Your guess about gravity feed was correct.

    • @catmichael100
      @catmichael100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A major problem with the model T was a lack of an engine oil pump. The engine was lubicated by oil slingers on the crankshaft. When going up a long steep hill there was a real chance that the engine bearing would loose what little oil they had and the bearing would wear out. By going up the hill in reverse this problem did not occure as much.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Whenever I see a rundown of the Model T's controls, I feel amazement that, rather than the wild success it was, it didn't turn the American public away from motoring forever. :)

    • @petrolak
      @petrolak 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, reminds me how Tesla has all sorts of features everyone copies and then you have all these other design quirks that NOBODY copies and users are baffled by

    • @DoctorShocktor
      @DoctorShocktor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The model T driving setup is safe and logical in that it was designed to make driving basically a “go” pedal and a “stop” pedal. The center pedal is simply for reverse. If the model T system continued into regular use, it would have been a very easily adopted standard, but it was also based on the mechanics of it’s transmission, which went away, so it had no reason to continue on as transmissions changed.

    • @noscwoh1
      @noscwoh1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The planetary transmission was much easier to use than the sliding-gear transmissions without synchromesh back then.

  • @furiousgeorge4114
    @furiousgeorge4114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pure Gold! Someone get that man a can opener.

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for a good laugh in the morning. Not that tall but at 6'2" I have been excluded from a few cool rides.

  • @humanitarianb0mbing161
    @humanitarianb0mbing161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Chieftain makes the sentence: "When I was a kid the portions were bigger." make come true.

  • @gdolson9419
    @gdolson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learned to drive in a Model-T farm truck, just like that one (no electric starter tho), around 1965 (I was about 10 at the time). The floorboards (and they were boards) had rotted out so you could watch the driveshaft spin; the interior upholstery was gone so you sat on a old horse blanket.

  • @redacted5052
    @redacted5052 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Holy cow, I thought only my old man wore my PT jacket out and about 😂

  • @SteamCrane
    @SteamCrane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Model T also had its own version of *track tension*!
    The brake bands that operated the transmission required frequent adjustment for wear.
    That is the origin of the old tune "Get Out And Get Under".
    The loose suspension was a big advantage on the primitive roads of the time.

  • @SlinkyTWF
    @SlinkyTWF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Still easier than trying to get in and out of a Model T34...

  • @Sseltraeh89
    @Sseltraeh89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    to be fair, this seems to be more of a issue of ergonomy (or lack there of) than size, i bet a lot smaller person would struggle entering and exiting this car too given the questionable door placement

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They're meant to be entered curb side. Watch even 1950s movies and TV shows, and it is surprisingly common to come in the curb side and just slide over on the big smooth bench seat.

    • @Sseltraeh89
      @Sseltraeh89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grizwoldphantasia5005 still, the passenger door are equally awkward, just missing the steering wheel collumn

    • @DoctorShocktor
      @DoctorShocktor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grizwoldphantasia5005Nope, has to do with camera setups, and nothing to do with IRL situations.

  • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
    @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Oh bugger...the Model T is on fire.
    Well, getting out would be much easier to do with the top down."
    I love those old style buttoned leather lounge seats in old cars... it's like sitting in a booth at a pizza parlor. Too bad one must be careful with one's shoes/boots to not scuff, tear or damage anything while climbing in and out of antiques, the preferred entryway would probably be to jump or clamber in over the rear or side with the top down.
    Great vid! Love the humility as always, can't wait to see what the Chieftain can or cannot fit into next!

  • @Blockio1999
    @Blockio1999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh this was a joyful episode. I'm going to be rewatching this a fair bit

  • @andrewallason4530
    @andrewallason4530 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My great grandfather had a T. The fuel system was completely gravity and vacuum ‘fed’ to the carburettor. Unfortunately near the family farm was a very steep hill, with limited alternate ways to town ( without a long detour). All the other local farmers used to reverse up the hill as the engine would become fuel-starved about half way up. After a few months of being annoyed, my great grandfather decided to install an old whiskey bottle into the fuel line just near the carburettor float chamber, that kept a nice reservoir of fuel for those moments.
    How far we’ve come in 100 years!

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are a number of videos on TH-cam relating to driving a model-T. Yes, the mystery of the three pedals and hand lever are quite interesting. Steering wheel lefty is "Spark advance" right side is the "Hand throttle" The Model-T has a High gear and a Low gear only.

  • @libertycosworth8675
    @libertycosworth8675 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nick, that is one of the funniest videos you have completed to date. 🤣

  • @user-ds8hs6rl8c
    @user-ds8hs6rl8c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You'd have had an easier time trying the Aussie/Brit WW1 'Middle Eastern' version of the Model T. Commonwealth forces used the utility version as 'Light Cars'. They started out as complete but, due to the conditions, everyone started removing everything considered 'unnecessary'. Ended up with the chassis, motor, radiator, petrol tank, transmission, 4 wheels and a Lewis gun. Ammo box for a seat. They went roaming all over the Middle East scouting etc. Crew of 3 generally. One of the tasks associated with them was helping scout the trails used to bring up the Light Horse for the Beersheba charge. Basically a WW1 version of the SAS!. One of the issues in the desert was apparently the woodenwheel hubs shrinking as they dried out causing them to come apart at speed. noted that some crews took their wheels off and threw them in the Dead Sea to swell them up again.

  • @ericchristopher1687
    @ericchristopher1687 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting thing about any Ford Model T sold in Canada. That issue you had getting past the hand brake through the driver's side door? Wasn't a thing in the USA - because those made and sold in the USA did not have a door on that side - only on the passenger side. The appearance of a door frame existed, for balance of look, one supposes. But not the door itself.

  • @lfraser7128
    @lfraser7128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, great to see you at my home town museum. It’s amazing how big it’s gotten the last few years.

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:00 A wise man knows when to say "help"!

  • @stephend50
    @stephend50 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Henry Ford Village in Dearborn has 4 for Model Ts that you can go for rides in.

    • @CachingCadre
      @CachingCadre 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      About 12 years ago the Henry Ford offered members only classes including how to drive a Model T. I took it twice with my dad.
      You could drive wherever you wanted on the roads in the village and the woods on the grounds.

  • @tacticalmanatee
    @tacticalmanatee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's interesting how similar the interior of that car looks to the interior of a horse-drawn buggy. Other than the controls, of course, but the rest is very similar

    • @jefferyindorf699
      @jefferyindorf699 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Horse less carriage indeed. 😅

  • @wilhelm_iron2359
    @wilhelm_iron2359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting you got in on the passenger side, since Model Ts in the US, at least some models, didn't have a drivers side door, they only had the passenger side

  • @fathead8933
    @fathead8933 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chieftain looks like the Division commander decided to play the dress up game, but determined that 2007 was his favorite era. The fact that he's wearing the PT jacket and is not running around is seriously disturbing my internal NCO.
    For a little context, in the early 2000s that jacket is like the business suit version of your PT uniform. Infantrymen weren't allowed to wear it until we're Turned Blue ie until weve completed training. Then when we got to our units and because it was phased in, nobody in before phase in bought the uniform until their was some type of inspection because it was like 300 dollars for the jacket. It's a good workout jacket but it gets hot really quick and it's reflective. So you could really only use it below 40 degrees and in garrison.

  • @AmazingAce
    @AmazingAce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah yes, the Model T dance of the controls

  • @kirkstinson7316
    @kirkstinson7316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steering column is spark advance and throttle. One pedal is clutch AND forward/reverse

  • @calthepeacelovingclover5935
    @calthepeacelovingclover5935 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Half expected it to tip when he put a foot onto it XD

  • @d.m.3645
    @d.m.3645 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate the Chieftain wearing an old timey uniform while getting in an old timey car.

  • @paulchisholm9392
    @paulchisholm9392 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the videos. Has the Chieftain tried getting into a Valentine tank? I have read that the crews thought it was cramped.

  • @anthonyf3647
    @anthonyf3647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That would make for an epic hot rod not gonna lie 🤣

  • @fogelmclovin6815
    @fogelmclovin6815 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never realized how small these are! thanks Chieftain!

  • @andrewdriver3318
    @andrewdriver3318 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOL, "is this the gearshift or the hand brake?" Model T- "Yes"

  • @zehnerdygamer3329
    @zehnerdygamer3329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What I want to see is the Chieftain fitting into a Schwimmwagen… and shifting it into reverse

    • @zehnerdygamer3329
      @zehnerdygamer3329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And by the way - I do have one in case you would like to try it and drive it

  • @KibuFox
    @KibuFox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clutch on the left, brake on the right, reverse pedal in the middle. Throttle on the right lever, 'spark' on the left lever, handbrake is the lever coming up from the floor.

  • @packersmresandvintage
    @packersmresandvintage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And the model t has a lot of flex so to speak 😉😉

  • @jamesmchenry4708
    @jamesmchenry4708 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dad's got a '27 Touring. It looks bigger than it really is - my Scion FR-S (which is NOT a large car) is quite a bit longer and wider.
    Also, "is this the gearshift or the parking brake?" ...Yes. Kinda. it does _disengage_ the transmission when you park it up from what I remember.

  • @gubulgaria5416
    @gubulgaria5416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Throttle is on the steering wheel. Put the hand braketo the middle position, which is basically neutral. Press down HARD on the left pedal, which is basically acting like a clutch ...... in reserve, and engaging with the first gear.
    Get your speed up, push the hand brake forwards, now when you come off the "anti-clutch", it's engages the 2nd / top gear, and your knee will love you again.

  • @Marcus-ki1en
    @Marcus-ki1en 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ha! and now that you fit and slide back and forth, the seat is not dusty any more. Plenty of room.

  • @cameronlamb7274
    @cameronlamb7274 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m from Windsor Ontario every Canadian model t was built here. During ww2 we also made artillery shell casings ford in Windsor made Bren carriers and other things. the old packard plant made their version of a Rolls-Royce Merlin for our aircraft it’s sadly gone now made way for a new bus depot. We we’re Ethel automotive capital of Canada and without the investor that was living here their wouldn’t be a ford motor company.

  • @Doomrider47
    @Doomrider47 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well I can say now I understand what the No Engine Brake is in reference to when I see a random sign on the side of a back country road

    • @DoctorShocktor
      @DoctorShocktor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, engine brake is yet another topic

  • @seanmalloy7249
    @seanmalloy7249 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, bugger, the Model T is on fire...

  • @widgren87
    @widgren87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always fun to see how he manages to squeeze into some of these vehicles :-)

  • @truracer20
    @truracer20 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curb side ingress and egress was extremely common and considered the safe way. Some early vehicle bodies didn't include a driver side door for that reason.

  • @stevewatson6839
    @stevewatson6839 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicholas looked like a Dad in his childs peddle-car!🤣🤣🤣 This video has left me with a big grin.

  • @julian281198
    @julian281198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the pedals in the model t from left to right are: clutch, reverse and brake. throttle is a lever behind the steering wheel

  • @xavierwedel4691
    @xavierwedel4691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, The Chieftain visited the Ontario Regement Museum!? Never would I think that would happen. Canadian things, lol
    Very thankful he did visit though. 😁👍🇨🇦

  • @roberteltze4850
    @roberteltze4850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In addition to the controls you mentioned I believe the clutch is a hand lever.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't recall seeing the Chieftain laugh so much during the non-blooper part of a video.

  • @ChrisRand-gf7lz
    @ChrisRand-gf7lz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You did it right Sir. It was actually common practise, both due to how the drivers seat was laid out and due to careover behaviour from the Horse-and-buggy days, that to get into a Ford Model T you would enter from the passenger side and slide over to the drivers seat.
    It was so common, and rather expected, that most early model cars that came about actually only had a passenger side door as that was how people had learned to get into a vehicle, that is to say, a horse-drawn buggy.

  • @candleman2123
    @candleman2123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you didn't have the doctrine videos, this would be my favourite series.

  • @joeavent5554
    @joeavent5554 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ACU trousers with 4th PT uniform jacket: 1st pt uniform was OD trousers, combat boots and white tee shirt; banana suit; grey sweat suit; grey suit and current black with yellow striping.
    Wearing a black PT uniform at 0600 is unsafe and incomprehensible. MPs driving about during winter unit PT runs shook their collective heads.

  • @sparkplug0000
    @sparkplug0000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Model T was very much a product of its era. Look at the spring configuration, it’s single transverse leaf springs, one front and one rear. That is why they will wobble side to side like you experienced. This gave it an incredible ability to flex and maintain traction on the poorly maintained roads of its era. And the hand throttle was what you found on tractors, which was about the only other machine many Model T owners had previously experienced.

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It now makes sense why Model T's didn't come with driver doors originally! You needed to use the passenger side door (to get in) anyway!

  • @sergeantbigmac
    @sergeantbigmac 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Made back when men were 5'8" and 150lbs soaking wet with a wool coat on lol. At 6'2" with a weightlifting build I know i'd have that exact same problem with the wheel and my tree trunk legs.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good on ya Nick, for expanding your horizons!

  • @demiller74
    @demiller74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s like driving one of these new lawnmowers with the forward arrow pedal and the reverse arrow pedal… it’s just Ford left off the arrows.

  • @torstenraab532
    @torstenraab532 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see - you don´t need any security gear for such an old car any more... as nobody is able to steal it and drive away with it 🙂

  • @LafayetteCCurtis
    @LafayetteCCurtis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If the car was on fire I presume one might just simply kick the engine or the fuel tank off the whole contraption instead of getting out.

  • @joebudde3302
    @joebudde3302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh bugger, the Model T is on fire 🔥

  • @HumbleDirtMerchant
    @HumbleDirtMerchant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going back in time with those UCPs too! Jeeeeeeeeeez