Mysterio was fun to watch IMO, his illusion scenes were awesome and seeing Peter get absolutely fucked in the end was pretty cool. NWH continues off of it beautifully and is a near perfect finisher to the trilogy.
True, Mysterio was probably one of the cooler MCU villain. Dude was straight fucking with him that entire scene and plunging the knife into Peter's insecurities.
@@lucaspeixesanto5105 last time they praised the 2 Home movies for being different than the tobey and andrew films but now they hate it i dont understand
There was always a group of people hating Tom for being Iron Man Jr. People that loved it lowered their standards… yet, NWH showed us that MCU Spider-Man can actually be better.
@@bluecricket6157 I thought homecoming felt very spiderman. Even at the end, going against all his best interest and even the avengers for the sake of what's right. Homecoming was great
@@funnfungusie9622 I'd agree, but honestly the 3rd act is the only part of Homecoming that I'd consider any good. So as a whole, Homecoming just doesn't work imo.
i dont see how people dislike far from home, i like it alot more then homecoming But when You see No way Home, Not Only I Loved it alot More then the First 2, You will Appreciate Homecoming and Far From Home coz Tom Holland's Spider-Man Trilogy is an Origin Story split into 3 Movies
Far From Home had an amazing Mysterio twist which also happened to not make sense. First his origin became just that much more lame and second, what even was Mysterio's plan? Sure he could be the saviour of the world from his own, MADE UP villains. But if he becomes an avenger and the new ironman, what about real threats? What plan did he have to fight them, and if he was going to fight them anyway IDK I think there might have been some space for IDK negotiation for Fury Nick.
Ay waddya know ur comment was right under the other thread, convenience But yeah I respectfully disagree, it was decent aside from the great third act but Iron Boy Jr could’ve been dialled down a bit. P.s. most of the Raimi fanboys really enjoyed NWH, myself included even tho I’m not as big on it as others, regardless of the messiness in the plot, so I wouldn’t say we’re stuck in the 2000s
@@cyclopsegg4735 no, it’s bad in your expectation of what a spider-man movie should be. Just cause he’s a high schooler in a highschool setting and has stark tech doesn’t make it a bad film. I don’t think it’s the godsend of spider-man movies but it’s most certainly good in the least.
@@Fanimei listen pal, idk what it's like to be an anime fanboy, so idk how you enjoy the movie. but it's so bad that i punched the guy next to me when i saw it in theatres, and I was charged $500 for it.
As someone who grew up with the Sam Raimi films, I unironically liked the MCU films with its interpretation, and I’m not ashamed to admit that. No Way Home though definitely makes it all even better.
Both of these movies understand Spider-Man very well, they're just not meant to be a direct adaptation of the character, more of a reimagining. No Way Home answers this perfectly by revealing it all to be a sort of extended origin story.
Because it's very childish in the beginning and Peter isn't himself, specially when his identity is being revealed to EVERYONE in Shield Mysterio was good, just that his backstory isn't all that interesting
As funny as this is, this isn’t really true. All of the Spider-Man movies are great and carry their own messages. Just because Tom’s spidey wasn’t like the others didn’t make him bad. All Spidey movies are great!
I really loved them both when they came out and I can still enjoy them but to a degree I just feel like sometimes they just don't get the character. I really do love Tom as spidey tho. NWH fixed most of my problems with this version of spidey tho. Other than the fact they just keep ignoring uncle ben which leads me to believe maybe he didnt exist. One of my bigger complaints about FFH tho is how mysterio turns out to be just some guy that really hates Tony Stark. All the other stuff they did with him was pretty cool in my opinion.
Because FFH was always a dogshit movie, i promise Hitop films isn't the devil and other people DO form their own opinion after watching the movie, you seem like those that are unable to do that though. Sad.
-boy wants to run away from his responsibility as a hero because of the burden of being spiderman -wants to live a normal life and go on a normal trip without superhero stuff, becoming closer to his crush -entrusts his responsibility to someone else, consequentially fucks up -has to deal with mysterio and use his innate abilities (spider sense) because of his own actions that led to this moment -plot almost similar to spiderman 2 this shit ain’t spiderman, it’s ironboy junior!
I used to have a negative opinion on Homecoming for a while there, until I rewatched it and FFH, and I gotta say I enjoyed the most things they gave Tom’s performance. And now that NWH has it’s amazing conclusion, Tom can gladly hold a candle to Tobey for my preferences.
@@ysfilms22 Your opinion. Personally I didn't find FFH to be THAT bad. I've even watched videos that criticises on Far From Home, I understand why people would hate it but I think it's a really fun movie.
Let's see there's the writing, the action, the acting, the editing, the pacing, the lighting, the tone, Tom's character's lack of agency, the overabundance of characters, and the underabundance of character
@@shealupkes this comment is a wonderful example of hating things unnecessarily lol. You saying "underabundance of characters" and "overabundance of characters" just shows me you aren't even critiquing it with logic. Honestly thought your comment was a copypasta at first, still like 60% sure it is.
@@Dylan-bc2po he said “overabundance of characters”, as in, a lot of characters that serve no purpose to the plot. And then later said “underabundance of character”, note the word *character*, not characters. The film as a whole lacks character. The director has no personality whatsoever, the characters have no personality whatsoever. That’s what he meant.
@@shealupkes The worst form of argumentation has to be the list. It doesn't actually allow you to elaborate on anything. Simply saying something does not make it so. Evidence is required.
I'm getting extreme Tobey stan vibes here who doesn't know how to appreciate anything other than their holy Raimi films (btw no, I'm not a raimi hater. Spider-Man 2 is still my favorite movie of all time, I'm just a toxic Spider-Man fan hater)
I don't get why people hate the whole Iron Man and Spider Man thing ,like I like it cause it is something new. Sure it does suck that really all of Spider Mans gadgets are from Stark and how his villians are his villians either but still like I really like Homecoming and Far From Home cause it gives me soemthing different ,I would prefer the normal Spider Man setup but I still like it
@@daradevlin4093 but nwh is new and everyone is saying its good? I don't think you understand people are not saying this because its not the raimi movies or because its new, again spider verse and no way home are both new and loved, far from home and homecoming are just mediocre poorly written movies. People dislike things for reasons, dont strawman
I had fun with it but something felt off to me the whole way through and then it hit me that Parker didn’t seem to have an arc. Nonetheless the changing locations and great villain saved the movie for me. But it was a balancing act that tittered near a mess for me because if 1 or more elements were different I would not have had as much fun.
I see alot of comments saying this video is a bad take. Personally I liked the first two films, not nearly enough as the raimi trilogy or the TASM movies (all of which I absolutely loved), but I liked them. No way home however was fantastic. But I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and how they express it. Even as someone who liked the MCU Spiderman movies, I personally think there are some big flaws. I know it goes without saying but my point is, just because someone has a different opinion, doesn't mean its necessarily toxic. Its just a funny vid.
I think calling Homecoming terrible is a pretty bad take all things considered, it's one of the most well rounded and solid MCU films and a very good Spider-Man film. Does it have problems? Absolutely! Too much stuff is done for comedy and we don't get enough classic Spider-Man action. It ranks as my third favourite spidey film after 2 then Spider-Verse.
@@dustinakadustin personally I thought homecoming was solid but I like most of the other films more if I’m being honest. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a bad take if someone called it bad but I certainly wouldn’t agree with it
Honestly I hated Far From Home and Homecoming when they first came out. Though I warmed up to them a bit I still felt like they weren’t true Spider-Man movies. They’re just movies who happen to have Spider-Man if that makes sense, as they don’t encompass the feeling or spirit of Spider-Man. No Way Home however I feel like encapsulates the spirit of Spider-Man perfectly, and slightly redeems the previous movies. It makes the previous movies feel like it gave Peter valuable lessons before he truly becomes the Spider-Man we know and love, Homecoming giving a sense of consequence and responsibility, and Far From Home giving a sense of power and who to trust with it. Overall the entire trilogy feels like an origin story, which though I partly don’t like as I feel like the movies should be able to stand up on their own, I still approve because it makes those movies better without removing what might’ve made it special to newer younger audiences.
The fundamental fact is Homecoming and FFH are fun MCU flicks, no doubt, but they fundamentally miss the mark on who spiderman is. Everything came really easily to Peter in the Home series. It's not just about the tech and iron man jr stuff. This Peter Parker has a financially stable house hold and a lot of friends. Whenever him being spiderman comes in the way of him living his life the people around him sort just let him be without any consequences and on top of that by the end of far from home everyone who actually matters in peters life knows he is spiderman. The whole thing is they got the relationship between Peter Parker and Spiderman wrong. Peter Parker hates being spiderman(atleast when he started off and well into adult life before he fully accepted his role) and if there was anyone else who could do the job he would let them. What drives Peter to Spiderman with such disregard for his personal life isn't a sense of heroism but a sense of responsibility, the responsibility he feels for the death of his Uncle Ben. The core of Peter is him trying to live a normal life taking care of his family and finding love and a family while juggling this responsibility he feels for what he considers the biggest mistake in his life, a mistake he isn't willing to repeat. MCU Peter is heroic to a fault...almost to a Captain America level of heroism...but that isn't who Peter Parker is, atleast not in the beginning. He is just a cocky superpowered kid who made a mistake and because of it, started walking a path which lead him to grow into one the greatest heros of his time. Even the responsibility lesson in NWH is about how Peter was doing the right thing and he has to continue doing the right thing despite all the sacrifices. Now this is a core theme of spiderman which is why I fundamentally believe that NWH is the only real spiderman movie in the home series. But my main issue with Tom's Spiderman is he is a born hero where as Peter Parker was no hero but his story show that we can be better that what we suffer from. This has been my TED talk.
Nah, they understand who Spider-Man is excellently. Homecoming is all about Peter Parker learning to take responsibility, choosing to do what's right over what's best for him. And it all works even better with No Way Home being out, and the way that everything sort of feels like an extended origin story now. What we were watching wasn't a Spider-Man written by people who didn't understand Spider-Man, it was a Spider-Man that was just still in the process of learning what it means to be Spider-Man. If things felt off, it's because they were supposed to be. He was still working up to becoming the Spider-Man we all know and love.
@@shridharbiju7370 Ehh, fair enough I guess, I skimmed it. I read pretty much everything at the very beginning and in the second half, just not the stuff about how Peter Parker's personal life isn't really damaged by him being Spider-Man. I guess on that part you have a point, but what I said still entirely applies. That's not the part I was arguing against. And I still wouldn't entirely agree that it doesn't get in the way of his personal life. I mean, the entire ending part of Homecoming was him choosing to be Spider-Man even though it costed him the affection of Liz. Just because one particular aspect of Spider-Man and Peter Parker wasn't heavily explored doesn't make it fair to say that the movies don't understand Spider-Man. They understand Spider-Man, but he's a complex character, there's other aspects of him they can focus on.
@@godofthecripples1237 In my opinion, there is 4 core aspects of Peter Parker that they got wrong. 1. Peter always does the right thing(this they got right) and as a result always suffers for it( this they got wrong). Peter Parker's crusade as spiderman always pulls him away from his family. He isn't able to take care of aunt may, he isn't able to properly make friends and even with the friends he has he has to isolate himself from them. The first movie ruins this by almost immediately revealing his identity to Ned and then to Aunt May at the end because now Peter has a confidant for his vigilantism. A man in the chair if you will. They kinda introduced this issue in FFH with him being unable confess to MJ but instead of exploring it fully they just made MJ reveal Peter's Identity. So basically he has the role of spiderman but none of the consequences of it in his personal life. 2. Why Peter chose to be the Spiderman? Peter Parker originally donned the webbed costume not to be a hero but to make a quick buck. In fact he didn't give two craps about anybody except himself and his aunt and uncle. That led him to not stop a thief who eventually ended up shooting Uncle Ben. This made Peter place the responsibility of his uncles death on himself and that is what drives him to be Spiderman. The personal guilt he feels towards his uncles death. In fact when Peter quit being spiderman what brought him back was seeing a man who looked liked his uncle being mugged. But MCU Peter is driven by a sort of righteous heroism (as shown in his introduction in Civil War) which is really not part of Spiderman's brand. Peter wants to be a hero and likes being spiderman. In fact he would willingly ditch everything in his life (not out of responsibility but because he wants to) to become spiderman. 3. The common man's hero. Spiderman has always been the everyday man's hero. The reason he has never been an active participant in the Avengers or the F4 when he joined them(other than the fact that he is literally a pain in the ass to work with) is that they don't operate at the same speed. Spidey is always about the ground-level superheroism rather than the major world altering events and even in those world altering events he is always taking care of the little rather than fighting in the forefront. Now my problem with MCU is they try to establish this then immediately retract to by throwing him in the middle(quite willingly) into some major conflict. This is also diminished by giving him access to the arsenal of Tony Stark, a billionaire and making Peter's household financially stable. 4. I always feel like it was criminal that they delegated Aunt May into the position of Hot Mom in the first 2 movies when she is literally the emotional center of Peter's life, the most important person in his life and the only remaining family he has left and him being the same for Aunt May. Only building up that relationship in the thrid movie was probably the biggest mistake the movie did and it really made the emotional climax of the film less impactful. Now the only film that addresses these(atleast most of them) core facets of Peter Parkers life in the home series is No Way Home and that why only consider NWH to be a proper spiderman film rather than just another MCU flick and even then it doesn't address these aspects of Peter as well as some of the other spiderman film especially spiderman 2 which addresses all these points very well(making it a almost perfect spiderman film) which I will give credit to Raimi for despite the fact that Andrew is my favourite spiderman. I am not saying that the Home Series isn't entertaining, just that they don't really seem like spiderman films.
@@shridharbiju7370 I have to disagree with you on a lot of this. I agree with the aspects you listed of Spider-Man, but these movies absolutely explore these. First off, like I said, we do see examples of his life being hindered by his decision to be Spider-Man. There's the obvious case of Liz, but that's also basically the plot of the entire second movie. He wants to enjoy his normal life as Peter Parker but can't because there's these grand expectations placed on him as a superhero when he just wants to be a kid. Second, I can't say that any of what you said about his selfishness or heroism is really applicable to the first two movies because we don't see his origin story, we don't know why he acts the way he does. That was intentionally skipped over because we had just seen it from two other versions of Spider-Man. Things do come full circle in the third film, but Peter Parker is very much an immature kid in the first two films. Yes, he does often want to do the right thing, but only as most people do. Homecoming showed him frequently going against a what was asked of him by Stark, doing things like hacking the suit to bypass protocols and blaming Tony for his actions because though he did want to do the right thing he was largely still an immature and selfish kid who wanted to be respected on the same level of the other Avengers. This is shown when he tells Ned that he's basically an Avenger as well, quite a while before he ever was. Your third point is the only one I can kind of agree with you on. Homecoming did a good job because it ended with Peter deciding to be a smaller-scale superhero, but as much as I enjoyed him in Infinity War, his presence in that film kind of cheapened that revelation by immediately shoving him into a massive cosmic scale battle just right after we had seen him say that he wanted to be a friendly neighborhood hero rather than some world-saving warrior.
FFH is literally worse than HC in every single way except CGI, almost every issue and complain in HC is made even worse in FFH and the visuals are atrociously bland.
Both movies are good, but Far From Home is the better of the two. Not sure why suddenly everyone has a hate boner for it when it was considered the better of the two just last year
why people hate this movies underdeveloped characters iron man and Spider-Man connection villains more focus on iron man instead of Spider-Man peter faces no social consequences for his actions I am not talking about the stuff of mysterio like revealing his identity I am talking about the smaller consequences to peters social life peter never mentions uncle ben may approves of peter being spiderman
I don't really see how they are shit Spiderman stories. In homecoming Peter learns that life as Spiderman is more than just the suit and in far from home he learns to be independent. These are good traits and good Spiderman stories.
@@Dylan-bc2po Yeah and then he gets another suit that's even more crazy high tech that he normally uses it. Plus if that's the only moral of the story that's pretty weak. Didn't really feel like he learnt anything other than not to trust everyone, which seems like something you should know since you're 12. And if he had learnt his lesson, he wouldn't go to doctor strange to erase memories of others.
@@miraodkopu do gotta love when you go into a debate with someone over a piece of media and instead of actual debating the opposition instantly digresses into insults. Anywho, i don't know how you see the far from home suit as technically superior to the iron spider. The iron spider is a literal equivalent to an iron man suit and incorporates technologies far more advanced than anything in any other spidey suit. Also the moral wasn't not to trust anyone, if that was the case he wouldn't have told mj, the moral was to strive for independence from stark which is the whole point of Happy's monologue. And even If you do think that morals weak, let's look at old Spiderman movies morals Spiderman 1: with great power comes great responsibility Spiderman 2: Balance Spiderman 3: Don't be bad? Amazing Spiderman 1: with great power comes great responsibility Amazing Spiderman 2: Never giving up Tbh the only unique one out of all of these is in amazing Spiderman 2 and even then, that film was a flop.
@@Dylan-bc2po I'm not even trying to insult you or your opinion, I'm simply stating my feelings about this and what I think about these movies. And no I didn't mean FFH suit being better, I meant the iron spider suit. Like the first movie ended with him not accepting the better suit which made me appreciate it a little more. But then due to circumstances he gets it and then continues to use it in other movies. So what was even the point of not accepting the suit in the first place? But cool ok, I get they were fighting purple guy so whatever. Yeah I know it wasn't but that's how it felt sometimes. So if the moral was to strive for independence why did he continue to use the iron spider suit or just even the normal one. Why did he go to funny wizard for help instead of dealing with the consequences? If independence was the point I don't feel it worked out very well. I get why he went to Strange, I get his character, his actions and motivations. I just don't like it that's all. If you take it that way, sureee their morals aren't anything groundbreaking either. But they work, they make a story that pushes the characters forward and makes them feel the consequences of their actions. I wouldn't mention Spiderman 3 that was just a weird mess. But like all these movies accomplished (besides Spiderman 3) to deliver a story full of struggle that were still enjoyable even if you took out the Spiderman part. Meanwhile MCU Spiderman feels like a comedic character that just looks like he's developing but feels and acts the same. Take Andrew's Spidey for comparison: He starts off as an irresponsible teen who's lost and alone. He gains powers just to learn it comes with a price. He's angry at the world, he's taking it out on others, on muggers, on his bullies, on his aunt. He wasn't Spidey until he saved the father with his kid instead of beating down the bad guy. He realized it's not about hurting others but rather helping them. I could continue but I'll stop here. What I'm trying to say is there is a clear development of the character, a clear story where one even leads to another and changes his life drastically. I just don't feel that in the MCU. Plus the chemistry between Andrew and Emma are incredible, not just them but the emotions in these movies are far greater and real than anything from the whole MCU. It's down to earth and it's human, it doesn't feel like I'm watching it to see Spidey beat up the bad guys, it feels like I'm watching a story of a kid that is trying really hard to do right and find his place in his world. Even tho these movies flopped, they still carried more emotional impact than any of the MCU Spidey's flicks. They could have been great if not for some bad decisions and it's a pity they turned out the way they did, but I still enjoyed them way more than this interpretation. I like this Spidey only at the end of NWH, he finally feels like a Spiderman, not a 12yo in a costume of Spiderman.
Homecoming was nice, far from home was an abomination, and no way home was a love letter to cinematic spideys and a pretty satisfying ending for the Tom trilogy.
He's not "Iron Boy Jr." anymore! Iron Boy Jr. has always been fucking stupid. Both of the movies explain how he's trying to become his own hero instead of the new iron man.
@@pinya3726 well its the implications and the talk they had iust before. Talking about how he's gotta be his own person not iron man. Then right after he makes a suit using stark tech puts the hologram gauntlet like iron man and happy looks at Peter remembering Tony then puts on the AC/DC
Have you even read the first 100 Spiderman issues written by Stan Lee? If so do you remember how these movies are actually more accurate to the character of Spiderman than the Rami trilogy, for example do you remember how Peter Parker idolised hero's such as the fantastic 4? Which Is similar to the relationship to the he has to iron man in the mcu. Oh wait you didn't know that did you? So shut the hell up and learn your facts before you start talking.
@@dylan_da_snake124 First off, no need to be rude. Secondly, Peter did like superheroes but he wasn’t essentially a sidekick to them. He worked alone and preferred doing things alone. Hell, he even got mad at the Fantastic Four when they weren’t paying for their services. Peter’s life sucked and he had to do and deal with everything on his own with almost no support from anybody. You don’t get that in the MCU until the final scenes. Peter was doing things alone with stuff created by him. No help from Iron Man (don’t hate Iron Man he’s legitimately my favorite character ever), Happy, no one. It was just one kid against the world.
Homecoming is one of the best Spider-Man movies lol people just hated it for being “iron man jr” even though the whole point of the movie is that Peter shouldn’t try to be an Avenger or like Iron Man and that he’s better being his own hero
It feels like he’s rating the posters more than he is the films lol
Exactly . In no way ,the mcu Spiderman movies are that bad.
Yeah the Far From Home poster is kinda garbage
@@evan9902 it really really is, and I love ffh but god having that image pop in my head every time I think of the movie disgusts me lol
The far from home poster is disgusting
@@owlcircus6811 yeah but I love the little touch of mysterio looking directly at the camera n like staring into your soul. really in character
NWH: "This right here is my favorite thing, in the history of forever..."
@@rhubarbfluff mid opinion
mid movie bad fight choreography
@@rhubarbfluff W
@@nande9817 anime kid
@@nande9817 L
Mysterio was fun to watch IMO, his illusion scenes were awesome and seeing Peter get absolutely fucked in the end was pretty cool. NWH continues off of it beautifully and is a near perfect finisher to the trilogy.
True, Mysterio was probably one of the cooler MCU villain. Dude was straight fucking with him that entire scene and plunging the knife into Peter's insecurities.
God the scene where he’s like “it’s mysterio” And the silence and he does the eye thing😂
Why do so many people hate far from hime
@@sir.squishy6830 Mysterio was epic, but movie itself was kinda ass.
@@kwency1003 the film was good.
When tf did people start to hate on the Home movies
yeah FFH is actually good i dont understand
@@lucaspeixesanto5105 last time they praised the 2 Home movies for being different than the tobey and andrew films but now they hate it
i dont understand
No clue
There was always a group of people hating Tom for being Iron Man Jr.
People that loved it lowered their standards… yet, NWH showed us that MCU Spider-Man can actually be better.
Home
Now I want Mark to rate No Way Home.
All these MCU Spider-Man haters been real silent since No Way Home came out
It's the first one where he actually feels like Spider-Man, so obviously
hahahaha
@@bluecricket6157 I thought homecoming felt very spiderman. Even at the end, going against all his best interest and even the avengers for the sake of what's right. Homecoming was great
@@funnfungusie9622 I'd agree, but honestly the 3rd act is the only part of Homecoming that I'd consider any good. So as a whole, Homecoming just doesn't work imo.
@@bluecricket6157 what about Far from Home?
i dont see how people dislike far from home, i like it alot more then homecoming But when You see No way Home, Not Only I Loved it alot More then the First 2, You will Appreciate Homecoming and Far From Home coz Tom Holland's Spider-Man Trilogy is an Origin Story split into 3 Movies
Like Ultimate Spider Man ironically
Thank you
Because he's so stupid far from home. And makes choices no Spider-Man or Peter Parker would make
Far From Home had an amazing Mysterio twist which also happened to not make sense. First his origin became just that much more lame and second, what even was Mysterio's plan? Sure he could be the saviour of the world from his own, MADE UP villains. But if he becomes an avenger and the new ironman, what about real threats? What plan did he have to fight them, and if he was going to fight them anyway IDK I think there might have been some space for IDK negotiation for Fury Nick.
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Well there was no twist for the people that knew he was a villain.
This definitely wasn't the product a toxic Raimi and/or TASM fan
It just looks like it and sounds like it and definitely is
I could hear the sarcasm through reading this
This whole comment section is casual viewers saying that FFR and HC arent bad then Toxic raimi fans are getting mad at them
@@billnyethatrandomguy1744 why because they are the ones who are the most genuine.
@@atwunz what?
@@atwunz what?
You have to see them all as a trilogy really. Then you realise it was just a new take on Spider Mans Origin-Story.
Homecoming was everything a reboot needs. The fans of Sam Raimi trilogy is still living in 2000s.
Ay waddya know ur comment was right under the other thread, convenience
But yeah I respectfully disagree, it was decent aside from the great third act but Iron Boy Jr could’ve been dialled down a bit.
P.s. most of the Raimi fanboys really enjoyed NWH, myself included even tho I’m not as big on it as others, regardless of the messiness in the plot, so I wouldn’t say we’re stuck in the 2000s
@@perfectbidoof7541 bruh calm down it’s just a comment
@Run over by a bus Spider-Man This… is calm? Notice I used the word respectfully, I ain’t fuming
I agree
I missed the part where that's my problem.
Anyone who says Homecoming is bad needs to get their eyes and ears checked.
Homecoming is bad, I have good eyes and ears. They were checked a couple hundred times too.
@@cyclopsegg4735 no, it’s bad in your expectation of what a spider-man movie should be. Just cause he’s a high schooler in a highschool setting and has stark tech doesn’t make it a bad film. I don’t think it’s the godsend of spider-man movies but it’s most certainly good in the least.
@@Fanimei listen pal, idk what it's like to be an anime fanboy, so idk how you enjoy the movie. but it's so bad that i punched the guy next to me when i saw it in theatres, and I was charged $500 for it.
@@cyclopsegg4735 damn, u rlly judge people by their usernames, u tend to judge people by their names irl too?
@@Fanimei i'm not judging you, i'm stating a fact governor.
As someone who grew up with the Sam Raimi films, I unironically liked the MCU films with its interpretation, and I’m not ashamed to admit that. No Way Home though definitely makes it all even better.
both those movies are bangers tf?
"If the majority people hates it then I must hate it too!" - average MCU Spider-Man haters
Bully Maguire: Little Ironboy Jr... Gonna cry?
Who's Ironboy senior then? WHO IS HE?!?!?!?!!?
I really do think all 3 are solid in their on way imo this is technically the best trilogy of Spider-Man movies at least for me.
Considering there's only 1 other trilogy and it's quality wavered greatly from film to film, that's not really hard.
“Funny, Everything you just said is wrong.”
Both of these movies understand Spider-Man very well, they're just not meant to be a direct adaptation of the character, more of a reimagining. No Way Home answers this perfectly by revealing it all to be a sort of extended origin story.
Why does most people hate Far from home? I thought it was pretty good and mysterio was a great villian
Me because the first third sucks
The joke writing in homecoming was good. In FFH it was atrocious.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 how so?
Because it's very childish in the beginning and Peter isn't himself, specially when his identity is being revealed to EVERYONE in Shield
Mysterio was good, just that his backstory isn't all that interesting
@@BlackPrince24 how isn't he himself?
As funny as this is, this isn’t really true. All of the Spider-Man movies are great and carry their own messages. Just because Tom’s spidey wasn’t like the others didn’t make him bad. All Spidey movies are great!
@Proxima not really
@Proxima he still spider boy
People need to make up their minds about how they feel about the movies
What is this sudden hate for homecoming and FFH? People used to love both. Don't tell me yall are unironically listening to ppl like Hitop films lmao
Hitop is right tho
@@Nononono36353 I agree
Sudden? They're terrible movies
I really loved them both when they came out and I can still enjoy them but to a degree I just feel like sometimes they just don't get the character. I really do love Tom as spidey tho. NWH fixed most of my problems with this version of spidey tho. Other than the fact they just keep ignoring uncle ben which leads me to believe maybe he didnt exist. One of my bigger complaints about FFH tho is how mysterio turns out to be just some guy that really hates Tony Stark. All the other stuff they did with him was pretty cool in my opinion.
Because FFH was always a dogshit movie, i promise Hitop films isn't the devil and other people DO form their own opinion after watching the movie, you seem like those that are unable to do that though. Sad.
Ffh is where iron man Jr and MCU formula complaints are valid. Homecoming isn't. Homecoming is at least good
But does he have a billion suits tho? Or a shrapnel next to his heart? Or a tower named after himself? He's not Ironman jr
@@stan52323 yes not in homecoming
-boy wants to run away from his responsibility as a hero because of the burden of being spiderman
-wants to live a normal life and go on a normal trip without superhero stuff, becoming closer to his crush
-entrusts his responsibility to someone else, consequentially fucks up
-has to deal with mysterio and use his innate abilities (spider sense) because of his own actions that led to this moment
-plot almost similar to spiderman 2
this shit ain’t spiderman, it’s ironboy junior!
I used to have a negative opinion on Homecoming for a while there, until I rewatched it and FFH, and I gotta say I enjoyed the most things they gave Tom’s performance. And now that NWH has it’s amazing conclusion, Tom can gladly hold a candle to Tobey for my preferences.
Ive actually always liked the MCU Spider-Man movies lmao
The cap is Stronk with this one
And what? Are we gonna pretend spider-man 3 and tasm 2 are masterpieces?
Better than ffh
@@ysfilms22 Your opinion. Personally I didn't find FFH to be THAT bad. I've even watched videos that criticises on Far From Home, I understand why people would hate it but I think it's a really fun movie.
@@TheSpeedMason Loving that pfp.
FFH is trash anyone who disagrees with me is a nut head
@@etc8589 why?
Tobey Stan moment
The 1st 2 were good films so I disagree.
I have to disagree. They were okay films in my opinion.I think No Way Home tied it and made it better imo
@@Lightbearer97 Agree to disagree.
Homecoming sucks lol
@@Ms_Pinball Disagree.
Its really trendy to hate the first 2 films lol. Most people like them its just the loud minority these days
I feel like I'm the only one who loves these movies...
I dont get why people hate on far from home, i think the movie's great
Let's see there's the writing, the action, the acting, the editing, the pacing, the lighting, the tone, Tom's character's lack of agency, the overabundance of characters, and the underabundance of character
@@shealupkes this comment is a wonderful example of hating things unnecessarily lol. You saying "underabundance of characters" and "overabundance of characters" just shows me you aren't even critiquing it with logic. Honestly thought your comment was a copypasta at first, still like 60% sure it is.
@@Dylan-bc2po he said “overabundance of characters”, as in, a lot of characters that serve no purpose to the plot. And then later said “underabundance of character”, note the word *character*, not characters. The film as a whole lacks character. The director has no personality whatsoever, the characters have no personality whatsoever. That’s what he meant.
@@Dylan-bc2po Character is different from characters. Learn English before you start trying to sound right.
@@shealupkes The worst form of argumentation has to be the list. It doesn't actually allow you to elaborate on anything. Simply saying something does not make it so. Evidence is required.
hitop please get off your alt
Fr tho 💀
So wack that Spider-Man has the same exact fandom experience as star wars does now.
Fr man it just makes me sad
Thankfully though, everyone seems to like the final installment of the 3rd Spider-Man series. I can't say the same for Star Wars...
@@petarus625 some people still think it’s mediocre lmao, well it’s the minority anyways
I'm getting extreme Tobey stan vibes here who doesn't know how to appreciate anything other than their holy Raimi films (btw no, I'm not a raimi hater. Spider-Man 2 is still my favorite movie of all time, I'm just a toxic Spider-Man fan hater)
No it's a joke. Why do people take things so seriously
@@raimiallpowerful2020 ik its a joke I just don't find it to be a great joke
@@thenerddump9559 humour is subjective.
[Insert "I like the Home trilogy a lot" here.]
[Insert Tobey fanboy screaming]
We got a fat L gentlemem
Don't ever let anyone tell you that Homecoming was a bad spiderman movie
I don't get why people hate the whole Iron Man and Spider Man thing ,like I like it cause it is something new. Sure it does suck that really all of Spider Mans gadgets are from Stark and how his villians are his villians either but still like I really like Homecoming and Far From Home cause it gives me soemthing different ,I would prefer the normal Spider Man setup but I still like it
Your opinion is wrong
@@etc8589 your opinion is also wrong
@@stan52323 holland fanboy
@@stan52323 Iron man and spiderman connection is to deep
@@stan52323 I hate tony as a mentor
These movies aren’t bad. They’re not amazing but they’re pretty average and entertaining overall
Yea I just rewatched both and imo homecoming is pretty good and far from home is decent overall but still pretty enjoyable
There is no bad Spider-Man they are all good in there own way
And each have flaws . Flawless interpretations are only 2, Spectacular and PS4. Spiderverse Peter B Parker is a combination of Tobey and Andrew.
Finally, someone who speaks english!
stop lying LMAO TOBEY AND ANDREW HAVE WAY BETTER MOVIES THAN IRON BOY
@@etc8589 Mf did you even WATCH No Way Home? He's not "Iron Boy" anymore. He's SPIDER-MAN.
@@Joe-gu8hg he is still spider boy
I love it, let him rates Sam Rami movies and show us how godly those movies are
OlD gOoD nEw bAd
@@daradevlin4093 YEAH BABY!
@@daradevlin4093 but nwh is new and everyone is saying its good? I don't think you understand people are not saying this because its not the raimi movies or because its new, again spider verse and no way home are both new and loved, far from home and homecoming are just mediocre poorly written movies. People dislike things for reasons, dont strawman
@@Fuko0139 in your opinion they do
I wander what Marks review of all the Spidey movies would be like
This is about how I feel. And then No Way Home turns it all around.
How the turntables
I personally really loved homecoming, but I really didn't like far from home. I just don't like a lot of the stuff they did with that movie.
I always love it lol
I had fun with it but something felt off to me the whole way through and then it hit me that Parker didn’t seem to have an arc. Nonetheless the changing locations and great villain saved the movie for me. But it was a balancing act that tittered near a mess for me because if 1 or more elements were different I would not have had as much fun.
I see alot of comments saying this video is a bad take. Personally I liked the first two films, not nearly enough as the raimi trilogy or the TASM movies (all of which I absolutely loved), but I liked them. No way home however was fantastic. But I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and how they express it. Even as someone who liked the MCU Spiderman movies, I personally think there are some big flaws. I know it goes without saying but my point is, just because someone has a different opinion, doesn't mean its necessarily toxic. Its just a funny vid.
I think calling Homecoming terrible is a pretty bad take all things considered, it's one of the most well rounded and solid MCU films and a very good Spider-Man film. Does it have problems? Absolutely! Too much stuff is done for comedy and we don't get enough classic Spider-Man action. It ranks as my third favourite spidey film after 2 then Spider-Verse.
@@dustinakadustin personally I thought homecoming was solid but I like most of the other films more if I’m being honest. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a bad take if someone called it bad but I certainly wouldn’t agree with it
Sorry if that seems contradictory
@@weirdbutcool7242 that's totally fair! I respect your opinion!
@@dustinakadustin thanks
Couldn't agree more, Markiplier.
"Dont watch this video this is disgusting if i would kill it i would."
ok
Honestly I hated Far From Home and Homecoming when they first came out. Though I warmed up to them a bit I still felt like they weren’t true Spider-Man movies. They’re just movies who happen to have Spider-Man if that makes sense, as they don’t encompass the feeling or spirit of Spider-Man. No Way Home however I feel like encapsulates the spirit of Spider-Man perfectly, and slightly redeems the previous movies. It makes the previous movies feel like it gave Peter valuable lessons before he truly becomes the Spider-Man we know and love, Homecoming giving a sense of consequence and responsibility, and Far From Home giving a sense of power and who to trust with it. Overall the entire trilogy feels like an origin story, which though I partly don’t like as I feel like the movies should be able to stand up on their own, I still approve because it makes those movies better without removing what might’ve made it special to newer younger audiences.
Opinions exist so yeah.
I like all the films just because it’s different from normal Spider-Man don’t mean it’s bad
Wrong opinion
@@etc8589 wrong life
@@etc8589 there is no wrong opinions but you prove there are stupid people
@@etc8589 dude relax
Honestly I love homecoming
I think he means “the posters”
The fundamental fact is Homecoming and FFH are fun MCU flicks, no doubt, but they fundamentally miss the mark on who spiderman is. Everything came really easily to Peter in the Home series. It's not just about the tech and iron man jr stuff. This Peter Parker has a financially stable house hold and a lot of friends. Whenever him being spiderman comes in the way of him living his life the people around him sort just let him be without any consequences and on top of that by the end of far from home everyone who actually matters in peters life knows he is spiderman. The whole thing is they got the relationship between Peter Parker and Spiderman wrong. Peter Parker hates being spiderman(atleast when he started off and well into adult life before he fully accepted his role) and if there was anyone else who could do the job he would let them. What drives Peter to Spiderman with such disregard for his personal life isn't a sense of heroism but a sense of responsibility, the responsibility he feels for the death of his Uncle Ben. The core of Peter is him trying to live a normal life taking care of his family and finding love and a family while juggling this responsibility he feels for what he considers the biggest mistake in his life, a mistake he isn't willing to repeat. MCU Peter is heroic to a fault...almost to a Captain America level of heroism...but that isn't who Peter Parker is, atleast not in the beginning. He is just a cocky superpowered kid who made a mistake and because of it, started walking a path which lead him to grow into one the greatest heros of his time. Even the responsibility lesson in NWH is about how Peter was doing the right thing and he has to continue doing the right thing despite all the sacrifices. Now this is a core theme of spiderman which is why I fundamentally believe that NWH is the only real spiderman movie in the home series. But my main issue with Tom's Spiderman is he is a born hero where as Peter Parker was no hero but his story show that we can be better that what we suffer from.
This has been my TED talk.
Nah, they understand who Spider-Man is excellently. Homecoming is all about Peter Parker learning to take responsibility, choosing to do what's right over what's best for him. And it all works even better with No Way Home being out, and the way that everything sort of feels like an extended origin story now. What we were watching wasn't a Spider-Man written by people who didn't understand Spider-Man, it was a Spider-Man that was just still in the process of learning what it means to be Spider-Man. If things felt off, it's because they were supposed to be. He was still working up to becoming the Spider-Man we all know and love.
@@godofthecripples1237 You clearly just read the first sentence before replying.
@@shridharbiju7370 Ehh, fair enough I guess, I skimmed it. I read pretty much everything at the very beginning and in the second half, just not the stuff about how Peter Parker's personal life isn't really damaged by him being Spider-Man. I guess on that part you have a point, but what I said still entirely applies. That's not the part I was arguing against. And I still wouldn't entirely agree that it doesn't get in the way of his personal life. I mean, the entire ending part of Homecoming was him choosing to be Spider-Man even though it costed him the affection of Liz. Just because one particular aspect of Spider-Man and Peter Parker wasn't heavily explored doesn't make it fair to say that the movies don't understand Spider-Man. They understand Spider-Man, but he's a complex character, there's other aspects of him they can focus on.
@@godofthecripples1237 In my opinion, there is 4 core aspects of Peter Parker that they got wrong.
1. Peter always does the right thing(this they got right) and as a result always suffers for it( this they got wrong). Peter Parker's crusade as spiderman always pulls him away from his family. He isn't able to take care of aunt may, he isn't able to properly make friends and even with the friends he has he has to isolate himself from them. The first movie ruins this by almost immediately revealing his identity to Ned and then to Aunt May at the end because now Peter has a confidant for his vigilantism. A man in the chair if you will. They kinda introduced this issue in FFH with him being unable confess to MJ but instead of exploring it fully they just made MJ reveal Peter's Identity. So basically he has the role of spiderman but none of the consequences of it in his personal life.
2. Why Peter chose to be the Spiderman? Peter Parker originally donned the webbed costume not to be a hero but to make a quick buck. In fact he didn't give two craps about anybody except himself and his aunt and uncle. That led him to not stop a thief who eventually ended up shooting Uncle Ben. This made Peter place the responsibility of his uncles death on himself and that is what drives him to be Spiderman. The personal guilt he feels towards his uncles death. In fact when Peter quit being spiderman what brought him back was seeing a man who looked liked his uncle being mugged. But MCU Peter is driven by a sort of righteous heroism (as shown in his introduction in Civil War) which is really not part of Spiderman's brand. Peter wants to be a hero and likes being spiderman. In fact he would willingly ditch everything in his life (not out of responsibility but because he wants to) to become spiderman.
3. The common man's hero. Spiderman has always been the everyday man's hero. The reason he has never been an active participant in the Avengers or the F4 when he joined them(other than the fact that he is literally a pain in the ass to work with) is that they don't operate at the same speed. Spidey is always about the ground-level superheroism rather than the major world altering events and even in those world altering events he is always taking care of the little rather than fighting in the forefront. Now my problem with MCU is they try to establish this then immediately retract to by throwing him in the middle(quite willingly) into some major conflict. This is also diminished by giving him access to the arsenal of Tony Stark, a billionaire and making Peter's household financially stable.
4. I always feel like it was criminal that they delegated Aunt May into the position of Hot Mom in the first 2 movies when she is literally the emotional center of Peter's life, the most important person in his life and the only remaining family he has left and him being the same for Aunt May. Only building up that relationship in the thrid movie was probably the biggest mistake the movie did and it really made the emotional climax of the film less impactful.
Now the only film that addresses these(atleast most of them) core facets of Peter Parkers life in the home series is No Way Home and that why only consider NWH to be a proper spiderman film rather than just another MCU flick and even then it doesn't address these aspects of Peter as well as some of the other spiderman film especially spiderman 2 which addresses all these points very well(making it a almost perfect spiderman film) which I will give credit to Raimi for despite the fact that Andrew is my favourite spiderman. I am not saying that the Home Series isn't entertaining, just that they don't really seem like spiderman films.
@@shridharbiju7370 I have to disagree with you on a lot of this. I agree with the aspects you listed of Spider-Man, but these movies absolutely explore these.
First off, like I said, we do see examples of his life being hindered by his decision to be Spider-Man. There's the obvious case of Liz, but that's also basically the plot of the entire second movie. He wants to enjoy his normal life as Peter Parker but can't because there's these grand expectations placed on him as a superhero when he just wants to be a kid.
Second, I can't say that any of what you said about his selfishness or heroism is really applicable to the first two movies because we don't see his origin story, we don't know why he acts the way he does. That was intentionally skipped over because we had just seen it from two other versions of Spider-Man. Things do come full circle in the third film, but Peter Parker is very much an immature kid in the first two films. Yes, he does often want to do the right thing, but only as most people do. Homecoming showed him frequently going against a what was asked of him by Stark, doing things like hacking the suit to bypass protocols and blaming Tony for his actions because though he did want to do the right thing he was largely still an immature and selfish kid who wanted to be respected on the same level of the other Avengers. This is shown when he tells Ned that he's basically an Avenger as well, quite a while before he ever was.
Your third point is the only one I can kind of agree with you on. Homecoming did a good job because it ended with Peter deciding to be a smaller-scale superhero, but as much as I enjoyed him in Infinity War, his presence in that film kind of cheapened that revelation by immediately shoving him into a massive cosmic scale battle just right after we had seen him say that he wanted to be a friendly neighborhood hero rather than some world-saving warrior.
I thought all three were great, but this is kinda funny.
Mysterio carried Spiderman No Way Home.
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@@Mostwantedtbest u read it
@@ultrasage9180 I did, which is why I am confused
Far from home wasn't my favorite but I think Homecoming was great
Wdym tho Homecoming and Far from home were both very solid movies
You are now my favourite person for making this
Homecoming is one of my favorites... Get mad now.
Agreeable, Mark. *Big brain Critique.*
Homecoming was great but I gotta agree with mark on far from home
Opinions just got out of hands(evil smile)
I thought he was rating the posters
all of em are awesome
I love Far From Home way more than Homecoming
I feel like people are hating on ffh a bit too much, sure it was dumb but it's rewatchable unlike some other MCU movies...
It's also quite fun in some parts
i agree
i wonder what he thinks of no way home! lol 😂😂
Gotta disagree with the Far From Home part. FFH is better than Homecoming.
But if this were just about the posters then he’s completely right 🤣
FFH is literally worse than HC in every single way except CGI, almost every issue and complain in HC is made even worse in FFH and the visuals are atrociously bland.
@@rockstar-made ... ok but have you seen Die Hard With A Vengeance?
i was thinking about the posters too
@@ximbas7294 ok but is that a Spider-Man movie that exists in the MCU?
@@stan52323 No... but it's better
Is he talking about the movies or just the posters
Both movies are good, but Far From Home is the better of the two. Not sure why suddenly everyone has a hate boner for it when it was considered the better of the two just last year
I totally agree. I had no idea people were just randomly hating on them all of a sudden?? I love those movies
why people hate this movies
underdeveloped characters
iron man and Spider-Man connection
villains more focus on iron man instead of Spider-Man
peter faces no social consequences for his actions I am not talking about the stuff of mysterio like revealing his identity I am talking about the smaller consequences to peters social life
peter never mentions uncle ben
may approves of peter being spiderman
also the suit
so yea these movies are a disgrace to spiderman and his legacy
these movies make me throw up everytime
You mean the posters, because both of those movies are better than the Raimi trilogy and Webb films
I really enjoyed metro man's Spiderman movie rating
Homecoming had some good moments, FFH was just meh. They are both okay films, but shit spider-man stories.
No. Homecoming is a good film. Far from home isn't...well the first third is terrible.
I don't really see how they are shit Spiderman stories. In homecoming Peter learns that life as Spiderman is more than just the suit and in far from home he learns to be independent. These are good traits and good Spiderman stories.
@@Dylan-bc2po Yeah and then he gets another suit that's even more crazy high tech that he normally uses it. Plus if that's the only moral of the story that's pretty weak. Didn't really feel like he learnt anything other than not to trust everyone, which seems like something you should know since you're 12. And if he had learnt his lesson, he wouldn't go to doctor strange to erase memories of others.
@@miraodkopu do gotta love when you go into a debate with someone over a piece of media and instead of actual debating the opposition instantly digresses into insults.
Anywho, i don't know how you see the far from home suit as technically superior to the iron spider. The iron spider is a literal equivalent to an iron man suit and incorporates technologies far more advanced than anything in any other spidey suit.
Also the moral wasn't not to trust anyone, if that was the case he wouldn't have told mj, the moral was to strive for independence from stark which is the whole point of Happy's monologue.
And even If you do think that morals weak, let's look at old Spiderman movies morals
Spiderman 1: with great power comes great responsibility
Spiderman 2: Balance
Spiderman 3: Don't be bad?
Amazing Spiderman 1: with great power comes great responsibility
Amazing Spiderman 2: Never giving up
Tbh the only unique one out of all of these is in amazing Spiderman 2 and even then, that film was a flop.
@@Dylan-bc2po I'm not even trying to insult you or your opinion, I'm simply stating my feelings about this and what I think about these movies.
And no I didn't mean FFH suit being better, I meant the iron spider suit. Like the first movie ended with him not accepting the better suit which made me appreciate it a little more. But then due to circumstances he gets it and then continues to use it in other movies. So what was even the point of not accepting the suit in the first place? But cool ok, I get they were fighting purple guy so whatever.
Yeah I know it wasn't but that's how it felt sometimes. So if the moral was to strive for independence why did he continue to use the iron spider suit or just even the normal one. Why did he go to funny wizard for help instead of dealing with the consequences? If independence was the point I don't feel it worked out very well. I get why he went to Strange, I get his character, his actions and motivations. I just don't like it that's all.
If you take it that way, sureee their morals aren't anything groundbreaking either. But they work, they make a story that pushes the characters forward and makes them feel the consequences of their actions. I wouldn't mention Spiderman 3 that was just a weird mess. But like all these movies accomplished (besides Spiderman 3) to deliver a story full of struggle that were still enjoyable even if you took out the Spiderman part. Meanwhile MCU Spiderman feels like a comedic character that just looks like he's developing but feels and acts the same.
Take Andrew's Spidey for comparison: He starts off as an irresponsible teen who's lost and alone. He gains powers just to learn it comes with a price. He's angry at the world, he's taking it out on others, on muggers, on his bullies, on his aunt. He wasn't Spidey until he saved the father with his kid instead of beating down the bad guy. He realized it's not about hurting others but rather helping them. I could continue but I'll stop here. What I'm trying to say is there is a clear development of the character, a clear story where one even leads to another and changes his life drastically. I just don't feel that in the MCU. Plus the chemistry between Andrew and Emma are incredible, not just them but the emotions in these movies are far greater and real than anything from the whole MCU. It's down to earth and it's human, it doesn't feel like I'm watching it to see Spidey beat up the bad guys, it feels like I'm watching a story of a kid that is trying really hard to do right and find his place in his world.
Even tho these movies flopped, they still carried more emotional impact than any of the MCU Spidey's flicks. They could have been great if not for some bad decisions and it's a pity they turned out the way they did, but I still enjoyed them way more than this interpretation.
I like this Spidey only at the end of NWH, he finally feels like a Spiderman, not a 12yo in a costume of Spiderman.
The best thing about Spider-Man: No Way Home is that it *ISN’T* a 2-hour Iron-Man appreciation fest
This was the worst way I have ever had 40 seconds of my time wasted
But he's right
Love the new title
Homecoming was nice, far from home was an abomination, and no way home was a love letter to cinematic spideys and a pretty satisfying ending for the Tom trilogy.
Just curious, why you not like Far Form Home?
@@wiseknight6180 If title was Iron Man Jr. FFH then no one has complaints
Homecoming was good as an introduction movie (ignoring civil war)
home coming is actually a good film
He's not "Iron Boy Jr." anymore!
Iron Boy Jr. has always been fucking stupid. Both of the movies explain how he's trying to become his own hero instead of the new iron man.
Excuse me sir, the jet scene with AC/DC would like to have a word with you
@@xman13knight67 what's so iron boy jr about that? It's just Peter making his suit with a throwback song
@@pinya3726 well its the implications and the talk they had iust before. Talking about how he's gotta be his own person not iron man. Then right after he makes a suit using stark tech puts the hologram gauntlet like iron man and happy looks at Peter remembering Tony then puts on the AC/DC
@@xman13knight67 Bro Happy even smiles at Peter because he reminds him of Tony
@@Mostwantedtbest exactly, looking at how Tony would be proud of his little offspring
Ok but homecoming is actually funny and pretty good unlike FFH
Why do people hate on these movies
O love ALL three of them
mcu's spiderman was kinda fixed in NWH
After no way home. The other two movies are even better. Since its technically his origin of becoming SPIDER-MAN in three parts.
bro markiplier is not even talking abt these movies its an edited video
Pls do one for all of the Spider-Man movies
Mark is speaking facts
In terms of comic accuracy, then yeah the first two are almost insulting how different the character of Spider-Man is to the comics.
Have you even read the first 100 Spiderman issues written by Stan Lee? If so do you remember how these movies are actually more accurate to the character of Spiderman than the Rami trilogy, for example do you remember how Peter Parker idolised hero's such as the fantastic 4? Which Is similar to the relationship to the he has to iron man in the mcu. Oh wait you didn't know that did you? So shut the hell up and learn your facts before you start talking.
@@dylan_da_snake124 First off, no need to be rude. Secondly, Peter did like superheroes but he wasn’t essentially a sidekick to them. He worked alone and preferred doing things alone. Hell, he even got mad at the Fantastic Four when they weren’t paying for their services. Peter’s life sucked and he had to do and deal with everything on his own with almost no support from anybody. You don’t get that in the MCU until the final scenes. Peter was doing things alone with stuff created by him. No help from Iron Man (don’t hate Iron Man he’s legitimately my favorite character ever), Happy, no one. It was just one kid against the world.
Homecoming and far from home are really good tho
That's literally my thoughts too !
I actually liked all the movies
Get out
@@DanielValentin0508 Imagine responding with "get out" towards other peoples opinion, like chill.
Imagine tryna say your opinion is FACT
I like homecoming, don’t really like far from home, and love and adore NWH
Far from home was way better than homecoming
This guy dont know what he is talking about
Spider man far from home was a really good 'spider man' movie
Well he isn't wrong
Maybe there’s such things as opinions and he doesn’t have to like to either movies.
Tom Holland spiderman is like a spoiled brat that keeps asking for a new car.
homecoming and ffh goated, cry
this original comedian should make a video rating No Way Home
Homecoming is one of the best Spider-Man movies lol people just hated it for being “iron man jr” even though the whole point of the movie is that Peter shouldn’t try to be an Avenger or like Iron Man and that he’s better being his own hero