This Reforged flaw NO ONE talks about

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  • All the drama does not quite get to discuss the actual impact of changes. Let's take a closer look at crew skills.
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  • @pcy52
    @pcy52 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    WE WORKED HARD FOR VREW SKILLS

    • @jesselancaster7063
      @jesselancaster7063 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2 yrs.

    • @pcy52
      @pcy52 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ 11 years, here

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You will get compensated with enough Commander XP to maximise 4 commanders.
      No one really works hard for crew skills. We just play and they accumulate in the background, and eventually offer a huge advantage over newer players.

    • @mikeridley1
      @mikeridley1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@halbailman nope ! I worked hard grinding the crew skills, they change your gameplay so much .. why wouldn't you focus on them .

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikeridley1 Like I said, they are in the background and rarely checked. Yes, you are right. They change the game significantly, giving a huge advantage, which is part of the reason they are going.
      Edit: This is the data and feedback WG get. Crew skills are mostly invisible to players and take many years to maximise. Someone's personal experience, like a subsequent comment who mindlessly says "na", is not reflective of everyone else. That's a common mistake most of us make. We think our experience is the same for most people. In comparison, commander skills are out in front, are limited in number and overall power, and maximised in a much shorter period. Crew skills fail all three of these metrics, hence, the change.

  • @insaneoutlaw4749
    @insaneoutlaw4749 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Compensation for garage slots, i have over 250 spare slots, that's a lot of gold

    • @Rookie_First
      @Rookie_First 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah this needs to be talked about.

    • @susanr9
      @susanr9 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👌

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you buy that many excess garage slots? Sorry, that's your fault.

    • @Mighty_german
      @Mighty_german 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@halbailman there are over 400 tanks in the game, 250 is not too much

    • @Banjoman-p7t
      @Banjoman-p7t 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@halbailmanbecause when you buy a tank in the store you get a garage slot with it and is part of the price. Grind a few tank lines and you also run out of garage slots and need to buy more.

  • @jeffhillstead3302
    @jeffhillstead3302 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    As a Free player who Boosted & trained 90% of crew skills.. It cost plenty..!!!

  • @srj607able
    @srj607able 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Dont worry, in six months we will have commanders in loot boxes behind’s paywall keys with all the old crew skills….😅

  • @SilentCougar
    @SilentCougar 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pleased to see this being brought to the fore by you and others. Mastery skills, as many have mentioned elsewhere took a long time to grind through to lvl 7. The advantages of doing so were in my opinion worthwhile, ie:- repairs, fire fighting, concealment, and a few other really important ones that well worth focusing on...To lose all these and have them replaced by 2 specific skills on a commander is not on...At present, all Mastery skills are gained to whatever tank we play, so training in TD skills is transferred to a Light, Medium or a Heavy, and vice versa. This new idea of only 2 skill abilities per commander means we are losing 18 skills that effect the gameplay/workings of our tanks. They can't do this without causing reasonable distain in the long term playing community. I hope they take heed, and look at how this can be initiated into the new game.

  • @Banjoman-p7t
    @Banjoman-p7t 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some of us learned from watching your videos in the past the importance of crew skills and spent gold to accelerate them!!!!!

  • @stevebettany8778
    @stevebettany8778 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Building these skills was a long hard slog. Never mind just bin them. Thanks war gaming.

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You get enough commander XP as compensation to maximise 4 commanders. I'm sorry you won't be able to keep your huge crew skills advantage over newer players and not beat them up as easily. That's life.

    • @stevebettany8778
      @stevebettany8778 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@halbailmanthis makes no sense at all. New players shouldn’t be playing in high tiers but they do. So who is ruining whose game?

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevebettany8778 What do tiers have to do with anything? We are talking about crew skills and the compensation you get.

  • @Darkman_smx
    @Darkman_smx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I actually mention that in survey today😀,and lot other things

  • @EconomicsMate1
    @EconomicsMate1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    G'day Paul, glad to here your opinions on this. The fact WG is removing some of the crew skills we have grinded for years is just ridiculous. I know that there will be commanders in the future that will have those missing skills, but for the time being we NEED compensation

    • @jesselancaster7063
      @jesselancaster7063 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we need to ratio their Rating , by leaving reviews and 1 *. it's not a 4 * game. ;-)

    • @n9o
      @n9o  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do not get why you would rather intend to kill the game instead of writing proper feedback based on a TEST that is far from the real game. Make your voice heard in a meaningful Way, trolls just get ignored anyways.

    • @jesselancaster7063
      @jesselancaster7063 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@n9o I not wishing the game to die!
      I;ve got 7+ yrs ,and over 2k into game.
      I just want them to listen to players.
      and rating game 1 * ,and commenting ,does give feed back they cant ignore. I Quit spending on game already, and I have tried to talk to wg.. but call me a troll..lol
      but think it through. if they don't listen and ruin game ,and thousands quit. w/out leaving a review it would still have * star rating it does not deserve. 07 Namasta

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did anyone look at the WG video about commanders? You will get enough commander XP as compensation to maximise 4 commanders! Again, so much misinformation around.
      Yes, you still won't have the huge advantage to beat up new players as easily that crew skills offer, and I'm sorry about that. 🙄

  • @band33to
    @band33to 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cool, I mentioned the same issue with removing crew skills. Hopefully they will take it on board.

    • @goaway7346
      @goaway7346 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WG: They need crew skills. OK - we'll put "Crew Coins" in loot boxes with a 0.0005% chance.

    • @band33to
      @band33to 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @goaway7346 don't give them ideas! 😂

  • @mikeridley1
    @mikeridley1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is my biggest issue with reforged. It took a loooong time to grind crew skills to maximum values.

  • @minerkosk9786
    @minerkosk9786 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Doodles mentioned it multiple times actually

    • @smellygoatacres
      @smellygoatacres 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In between sending pics of his weenie to girls, right?

  • @napoleonblown_appart1942
    @napoleonblown_appart1942 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yea i have had all these for years now.

  • @deathmachineusa2689
    @deathmachineusa2689 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You get enough credit supposedly to fully upgrade 4 commanders. its a lie . i could only do 3. They should give players life time xp on operators as compensation. The crew skill took me years.

  • @felipearbustopotd
    @felipearbustopotd 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It took me 25000 games to fully max out.
    And now WG, want to remove it. WTF 😮

  • @Umbreona
    @Umbreona 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You stay tracked forever and have no camo.

  • @horecia
    @horecia 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a talk with wg in tickets about t10, I asked why there are so many bad players at t10, its very frustrating for me to play with mostly 40 rate players. They dont use the tanks as they should, they push me and block me all the time. They dont push enemies and camp all the time at spawn. Most of the time 2 or 1 goes alone. Tds nvr support also they play tds as heavies or meds. Its very frustrating

  • @SivyDymm
    @SivyDymm 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    in my opinion it would be better if the perks were reworked maybe adding a few new ones and it would be better than the commander but as we all know perks can't be sold but commanders can

    • @n9o
      @n9o  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know someone who spent 60k gold to max crew skills on his reroll, so the monetization argument isn't really valid.

  • @jesselancaster7063
    @jesselancaster7063 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope everyone who quits over this update is smart enough to go and rate game and leave a comment ,tell people what they think. ;-)
    I don't think it deserves it's 4 * rating..

  • @goaway7346
    @goaway7346 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here is my advice to everybody...
    When the new game drops
    1. Park your current account, don't play it all
    2. Start a new account and play that - just have fun, if that's even possible
    3. Don't spend ANY m0ney on your new account
    4. Watch how quickly WG walks back some of the changes
    If you complain but keep paying, WG are getting exactly what they want.
    It's up to you.

  • @jdzrt
    @jdzrt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Nice to see someone with a legitimate concern. Definitely seems more important than the removal of Fadins medals.

    • @jdzrt
      @jdzrt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who's that? ​@@damienwilliams9526

    • @jdzrt
      @jdzrt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@damienwilliams9526who's that?

    • @JAc08-games
      @JAc08-games 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have not watched a full video yet. He’s already talked about THIS EXACT THING. Among many other things which will affect the new game. Actually use common sense and do research before you make stupid claims

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, because veteran players really need such a big advantage to beat up new players. I never knew crew skills offered such big advantages. I just let them build without much attention. After 4 years, not all are maximised. How do new players ever hope to compete? Crew skills are a disgrace on the game. Commander skills are fairer, even if mostly all agree the models look dumb.

    • @halbailman
      @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@damienwilliams9526 Sure, Doodles, the guy that lies and pushes hoaxes like "WG is making you pay for tech trees." 😂
      What is ignored here is that crew skills clearly give veterans a huge advantage that they don't really need over newer players. Commander skills are fairer in that sense.

  • @furiousc9881
    @furiousc9881 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m concerned with the commander skills that affect other teammates…Olivia’s guerilla tactics in this case. I don’t think that should be implemented at all.

  • @tanksblitz4934
    @tanksblitz4934 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can they take away crew skills

  • @SchwarzenVolk
    @SchwarzenVolk 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Instead of fixing MM, Blitz has decided to make everyone play on the same playing levels. Disregarding experience earned and skills acquired. Blitz is tired of players complaining about playing tier 8,9,10 with players having 13 battles experience, 200 battles experience, and 300 battles experience for teammates. With Reforged we can now all be equals.... My decision? Burning my wallet and throwing it in the Reforged flames.

  • @jesselancaster7063
    @jesselancaster7063 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe they will fix whatever it was in update 5.5 that made it so I now have 1 day every 3 months where I have 25 tanks w b-days...lol

  • @junction6_m27VNC
    @junction6_m27VNC 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Funny that WG never cared when I was a noob with low crew skills going up against experienced players with max crew skill but I worked hard and spent a fortune in coins and elite XP to max my crew skills and guess what I learned how to play my tanks by doing that grind, a new player when UE5 is implemented is still at a disadvantage because with no noob MM they will be facing players with max commanders,map knowledge and experience therefore the argument doesn’t hold up.

  • @_daze
    @_daze 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have my upvote

  • @PandoraTriggerBlitz
    @PandoraTriggerBlitz 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kinda crazy how they are suggesting that they are getting rid of crew skills because new players struggle to build these up. There's plenty of new players sharing their experience suggesting that they aren't that hard to accumulate. WG even made it easier since tank crew skills were abolished and everyone starts at 100% now. And that change only happened 2-3 updates ago, so wheres the data that suggests new players NEED commanders over crew?
    The narrative that commanders even the playing field for new player is a blatant lie. Why do commanders have levels?
    Begs the question why WG were letting inexperienced players into the higher tiers in the first place. But this has nothing to do with update 5.5.

  • @luispedras9560
    @luispedras9560 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I grind all crew skills of all tank s types! Now they gona get it out ! 🤬🤬🤬 DEAD GAME FOR ME WITH THIS UPDATE

  • @smellygoatacres
    @smellygoatacres 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not trying to be rude but it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. WG has decided they want to degrade the game. That's it. Some of the fan bois will be giddy and rah rah. The rest of us are done. And those who are done with it won't be replaced by new players.

  • @ahklys1321
    @ahklys1321 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Na I disagree that nubs have such an unfair advantage. The overall effect of buffs is moderate, but its a team game. It all should even out in the end as nubs go on both teams. And why shouldn't veterens have a little advantage as the reward for years of leveling them? Im sick of this "nubs have it so hard, vets have it so easy" . Want to make the game soft? More like fortnight? More uncompetitive? Less depth ? Tech trees are way too hard and complicated. Lets make it soft and easy.
    Thats what youre saying man.

  • @pcy52
    @pcy52 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Paul

    • @n9o
      @n9o  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hello :)

  • @halbailman
    @halbailman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not sure if you said it by the end because I skipped through: nothing is final! The burn duration will likely be reduced overall in the final product. Also, removing crew skills brings ALL players to the SAME level. This video actually illustrates the complete unfairness of the crew system. Why should veterans get a 42% burn rate advantage over new players, or a 30% camouflage advantage? They have an advantage already through tank and map knowledge and better skill, so to get more advantages like this is obscene. Crew skills take years to maximise, which adds to the unfairness more.
    Sorry to say, you just confirmed why crew skills should go, and commander skills are a fairer and simpler alternative. That commanders themselves look silly is really the main consensus. Their principle and function is sound.

    • @Felib4ss
      @Felib4ss 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Found the shitty wg dev with the most retarded opinions

  • @damienwilliams9526
    @damienwilliams9526 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guest droodles is invisible since he said no one.🤷

    • @JAc08-games
      @JAc08-games 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol exactly. Droodles has talked about pretty much every single issue